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Title: FB: Northern Athletics Collegiate Conference
Post by: admin on August 16, 2005, 05:04:27 am
This is the new home of IBFC discussion. Welcome aboard, everyone.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: aufb05 on August 16, 2005, 09:32:24 am
Pongo-

Sorry about the delay-BU has a great complex, you missed my point about about sky boxes. No big deal.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Fatpongo on August 17, 2005, 12:42:27 am
I must have missed it...
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Gomer Pyle on August 17, 2005, 08:49:35 am
  Hey Guys, what do you think of the "new" set-up?
   What happened to the paper trail?  Did i miss something?
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: eaglesnest on August 17, 2005, 10:01:54 am
Well everyone has been in camp for 3 or 4 days what is the hottest topic....................how do the eagles look
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: aufb05 on August 19, 2005, 01:30:05 pm
Hello !! anyone out there? - Season starts in 16 days. Anyone got any idea why the majority of IBFC season previews are AWOL?
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: aufb05 on August 19, 2005, 01:59:01 pm
I was checking the IBC rosters- so far only Con(W) & Eureka have '05 teams. Con(W) doesn't list Ht., Wt., or Yr. of players.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: doughboy69 on August 19, 2005, 07:46:25 pm
Sorry I missed the skybox conversation with BU. Looks like it's gone forever. What were people saying about it?

On another note, are any IBC teams scrimmaging each other this preseason?
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: micro on August 19, 2005, 10:48:42 pm
I dont think there are any teams in the conference scrimmaging one another... Mac and LC are playing top 25 teams what do you guys think the outcome will be?
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: night_train92 on August 20, 2005, 01:40:59 am
AUFB AU's will be out after this saturday I would think.  They usually get everyone's info, pictures and stuff like that before the blue/white scrimage.

micro,  I hope that both teams do well against the teams in the top 25.  I believe both teams have a good chance of beating the teams they are playing against.  Hopefully after that the IBC will get some R E S P E C T!!!!!!!

Good luck to everyone's team
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: aufb05 on August 20, 2005, 10:33:13 am
Night Train-

I with you. Not just Lake and Mac need to do well in non-conference action, but the whole IBFC as well.

Pat-

How come I have post 39 twice?
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Pat Coleman on August 20, 2005, 11:52:02 am
The posts don't number individually anymore.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Pat Coleman on August 20, 2005, 11:53:18 am
By the way, I should make a pitch for the Kickoff for those who are looking for IBFC information. We definitely have every team covered. I talked to all eight head coaches myself.

http://www.d3football.com/kickoff/
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: micro on August 21, 2005, 10:14:14 pm
Hey guys just checking in.....I went out and watched the MAC scrimmage today at Freesen Field.. They are looking better than the 2002 team.. the offense is VERY powerful as always and the defense is magnificant.. The new D-coordinator has put together a "goon" squad!! The best of luck to the highlanders this year... Has anyone else been to watch any other IBFC scrimmages??
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: gc_fan on August 23, 2005, 10:14:09 am
Unfortunatly I can't go but on Thursday, Greenville is going to scrimmage Blackburn.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: micro on August 23, 2005, 11:18:44 am
GC-Fan

When where and what time for the GC- Blackburn Scrimmage?
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: gc_fan on August 23, 2005, 03:49:04 pm
According to the Greenville website, the Greenville/Blackburn scrimmage is this Thursday 8/25 at 5:00 p.m. in Greenville.  My guess is that it would be at the game field
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: micro on August 24, 2005, 08:31:01 pm
Did you guys here the news about the O-lineman from Illinois Weslyan? Mac scrimmages them on saturday... Thats really sad to hear that he had a heatstroke and is not doing to well.....I hope he fights through that!!!!
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: aufb05 on August 25, 2005, 03:31:43 pm
If I am speaking out of turn someone let me know-

I  want the Schmied family and the IWU community to know that our prayers and condolences go out to them. Although I didn't know Doug Schmied, I know that College football is to small of a place to loss a player, a son and a friend.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: micro on August 26, 2005, 09:29:14 am
Well Said AU FB05... I am deeply sadden that this has happened to a yonug wonderful man... Hearing from the IW community he was well known and well respected. I send my regards to the family and friends... God Bless!!
Title: Luther/Lakeland Scrimmage
Post by: maddog8 on August 28, 2005, 01:28:46 am
D one pleasure meeting you today your squad looks well rounded. best of luck to you and your team Luther. Good scrimmage.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: maddog8 on August 29, 2005, 07:22:23 pm
Da One, watching the scrimage number 55 linebacker Dylan Syse how good is he and where is he on the dept chart? looked very good sat.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Da One on August 30, 2005, 12:53:52 pm
MD
Your son his very good.  Hope he can get some help from the WR (except the AU game, HA HA).  Dylan is a a solid LB, I think he is our 3 MLB. 
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: maddog8 on August 30, 2005, 03:00:35 pm
D thanks for the compliment, I think Lakeland will be ready for Northwestern on Sat. Thanks to the Luther scrimage.  Again good luck on your season and hopefully you can make it up for the AU/Lakeland game.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Gomer Pyle on August 30, 2005, 03:37:16 pm
D thanks for the compliment, I think Lakeland will be ready for Northwestern on Sat. Thanks to the Luther scrimage.  Again good luck on your season and hopefully you can make it up for the AU/Lakeland game.
  Maddog: I sure hope your ready with all those 6 year seniors. 
   Just kidding!    ;D
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: aufb05 on August 30, 2005, 04:15:38 pm
D III   Massey   Laz   SCHOOL
67   100   60   Lakeland
101   93   91   Concordia WI
102   92   96   Aurora
121   139   152   MacMurry
214   201   195   Greenville
215   203   199   Eureka
229   215   210   Concordia IL
209   212   212   Benedictine IL

Rankings for the IBFC out of a possible 231
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: maddog8 on August 30, 2005, 05:50:41 pm
GiJoe, (lol) it would be nice to have 6th yr seniors, lets hope we can do it with the 5th yr guys. AUFB05 like the ranking post. I think the IBFC has four very srtong teams which can do some damage in the preseason/non-conference games. Hopefully that will bring some recognition to the IBFC ;)
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: aufb05 on August 30, 2005, 06:31:49 pm
Maddog-

I'm hoping there is some serious damage done to non-conference teams-some tough schedules though.

what happen to just plain Maddog? is 8 your sons #?
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: BashBacker#16 on August 30, 2005, 06:59:23 pm
Wheaton followers,

Looking forward to a quality scimmage this Saturday vs. Wabash.  Should be a good test for both squads.  I'd guess both teams will have some questions answered.  What should we expect to see as strengths and weaknesses?  I'd hope you will see (from Wabash) a very tough defense (great LB corps, solid front), talented/athletic WRs, and a good O-line.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: maddog8 on August 30, 2005, 10:27:50 pm
what happen is this site would not let me use it again so yes I used my sons number to get my maddog name back sorry for the confusion
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: maddog8 on August 30, 2005, 10:32:33 pm
I do think that the IBFC will have a solid record coming out of the non- conference games. I am also confident that Carthage #13 and Whitewater  #21 will go down in defeat. I am that confident. I am confident that Mac will upset Wooster. Look for CUW to have a better percentage than last year and AU should clearly win their first 2 non-conference games BUT Valpo may be trouble. I still will take AU hands down. Should be a great season if I am half correct!!
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: night_train92 on August 31, 2005, 02:42:21 am
First off I want to say good luck to every IBC team in the non-conference games!!!  There is a lot of respect to be won.

Second, I think that Lakeland and Mac can gain a lot of respect for the conference form the non-conference games that they play.  Both teams play top 25 teams that they can beat.(Lakeland 2 of which are great teams)  Not saying other teams don't

I know last year Valpo kids were assholes to us and I hope that AU can go in there and show them what D3 football is all about.  From seeing a little bit of practice I know coach Duncan has them on the right page
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: aufb05 on August 31, 2005, 09:56:54 am
night train-

I watched AU scrimmage with Loras last Sat. I have to say I was impressed. What a difference a year makes (if anyone remembers the scrimmage they had with Loras a year ago you know what I'm talking about). The D was the most impressive. There are of new faces on the D that make up for any lose of last years outgoing seniors. One D-line freshmen in particular was outstanding. The O looked alright, Hornung hasn't lost his ability to air it out or scramble when he needs to. 
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: aufb05 on August 31, 2005, 10:19:04 am
maddog-

AU plays its 2nd non-conference at Alma. I don't expext it to be a walk in the park. It will be a good tune up for Oct. 29th.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: aufb05 on August 31, 2005, 10:48:20 am
pat coleman-

just re-viewed "kickoff", what an outstanding job you guys did - it was worth more than i paid for it. the rest of the board needs to give up $8.95 (unless your a student) and see for yourselfs.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: maddog8 on August 31, 2005, 01:50:06 pm
I agree with AUFB05 give up the 8+ dollars well worth it. Great info on all teams!

Night Train are we on for Dinner when AU comes to Lakeland, are you driving G-man back to campus let me know, thanks.


Alma is close by me and I do believe that AU will beat them they lost alot of key players.  KEY SCOUT REPORT---STOP THEIR RUNNING ATTACK!!!!! you will win
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: night_train92 on August 31, 2005, 04:00:05 pm
I haven't got a chance to talk with Vargas yet.  I haven't seen him around campus.  I will be up there so if he wants to ride up there with me that would be great.  I know a couple of other players are going to ride up there with me as well.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Pat Coleman on August 31, 2005, 09:30:10 pm
Thanks, aufb and maddog. I enjoyed getting to talk to all of the coaches in the league and learn about some schools that I don't know as much about.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: aufb05 on September 01, 2005, 09:43:55 am
Pat Coleman-

Are there any D3 programs effected by Katrina?
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Pat Coleman on September 01, 2005, 10:50:04 am
Millsaps and Mississippi College each delayed their season openers. I don't know much more about how the campuses were affected or anything.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: fsufan on September 01, 2005, 08:18:54 pm
I read a whole lot on this site about some well deserving teams, that is good.  Now how about a few words about another well deserving team that is having a rough time lately. GO CURF!!!!  I am sure the coaching changes will be a positive for the team. I also hope that the coaches that left for other opportunities also find success in their new positions.  Whatever the future brings - ROLL COUGERS :)
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: aufb05 on September 02, 2005, 03:28:26 pm
Predictions-

Lakeland    over   NW(Minn)
AU              over   Cornell
Eureka        over   Rockford
Con (Wisc)  over   Monmouth
Wooster      over   MacMurray
Trinity I       over    Greenville
Elmhurst     over    Benedictine
Loras          over   Con (IL)
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: aufb05 on September 03, 2005, 11:49:05 pm
Maddog-

It was good to see Lake with a W, because it was a long day for the rest of us.

Ok here goes. AU 14 - Cornell 21

AU Offensive player of the game - Travis Paro RB, 124 yds. rushing
AU Defensive player of the game - Kyle Dentino DL, 10 tackles

Honorable Mentions:
Nate Ficham TE, TD
Troy Blazer WR, TD
Randy Moser DL and Kyle Simmons DL 6 tackles each
Nick Paxson FB, 3 traps for 26 yds.
Drew Hornung QB, 2 passing TD
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Big_Uns on September 04, 2005, 01:55:27 am
It was almost a long day for Lakeland and its fans too. Northwestern gave the Muskies a hell of a game till LC blew it open with three 4th quarter TDs. The defense looked a little suspect at times but four D starters sat and a few should be returning next week when they go down to Carthage.

The offense finally got in rhythm in the 4th when the penalties finally ceased. It seemed like every big play got called back. Hopefully they can keep that up next week.

I'll tell you who looked good though: Ryan Van De Loo. I gotta give that guy props even though he started last year, Scharinger was the heart and soul of that defense, but it looks like its still in good hands. Can't go wrong with 10.5 tackles, 4 for loss, and a key fourth down pass deflection. Seemed like whenever the defense needed a big play he stepped up. That's what makes a player.

Nothing wrong with the running game, either with 3 players topping 90 yards.

Looks like Carthage got quite a scare too...14-10 over Carroll (3-7 last year). Carthage scored only one TD in that game and scored the rest of their points on two field goals and a safety. Should be a very interesting game in Kenosha next week. I know I'll be there!

I hope things pick up for the rest of the IBC for the next couple non-conference games. We need to show the nation what we're made of up here.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Ralph Turner on September 04, 2005, 02:02:26 am
Big Uns, do you know why Marcus Denham did not play for Lakeland?  He was listed on the pre-season roster.

I had him in the Fantasy League...bummer, bummer . :(
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Big_Uns on September 05, 2005, 01:45:31 pm
Well they actually switched him to cornerback because there was a log jam at halfback (made apparent by having nearly 3 people rush for 100 yards last week). He was on the sidelines in street clothes on Saturday and I have no idea why. I wouldn't expect him to be out long, but I'm pretty sure defenders don't gain too many points in FFLs.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Longtooth on September 05, 2005, 09:46:27 pm
That;s a great move
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: maddog8 on September 06, 2005, 01:20:46 pm
Marcus is out for a good reason hopefully he will be back sometime soon this yr. I will leave it at that.  I agree with Big Uns Lakeland didn't play well but then again it was the first game. There first drive went 88 yrs for a TD in 8 plays. Big test this weekend against Carthage. Go Muskies!!!
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: aufb05 on September 06, 2005, 03:38:31 pm
Maddog-

My recommendations for all-maddog team week one are on pg.3, I missed an at-a-boy for Brent Baker OLB, 7 tackles.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: maddog8 on September 06, 2005, 07:35:08 pm
Thanks AUFB05 anyone else have recs for the week. I have Maiuri At QB, Arron Berry at RB Ryan Van Doo Loo LB ( Outstanding day) Sam S. WHO? David Benton DL and the ENTIRE MUSKIE O-LINE (SUPERB)
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Big_Uns on September 07, 2005, 11:04:38 am
I would agree on the O-Line. Simply cannot argue with 346 yards rushing and ZERO sacks allowed. It will be interesting to see if they can keep that going, last year they only gained 48 yards on the ground against the Redmen. I'm not sure what exactly is going on behind center for the Redmen, but I read the box score and they started Sharp but he went 0-8 and then they went to a freshman. Not sure if Sharp got injured or if there's a QB battle going on. Lakeland should be able to get some pressure on whoever is back there, hopefully force some turnovers like they did last year.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Southfan on September 07, 2005, 01:10:29 pm
I hope the Muskies kick the snot out of Carthage.  The freshman QB was pretty good in high school and stepped right in last week and did well.  The Muskies are going to have to find a way to put up some points on the Redmen defense.  That will be the challenge.  Keep their offense off the field and figure out how to keep the offense on the move.  Go MUSKIES!!!!
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Southfan on September 07, 2005, 01:13:00 pm
I had a question about the AU vs. Cornell game.  What was the deal with Hornung?  He was 8 of 22-3 with only 68 yards passing?  Was Cornell disguising defenses, WR dropping passes, or is expected with the change of systems?  Just curious.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: maddog8 on September 07, 2005, 02:14:23 pm
Yes, Carthage will be a tough foe, BUT I think if the Muskies show up ready like I know coach "Z" will have them, LOOK OUT. This is the IBFC dream to take down top ranked teams.  This team has something to prove to themselves and the nation. Look for a close game until half then I think Lakeland will open it up. The key is keeping there STINGY DEFENSE on the field. I personally am not worried about there offense, withour Franz and Washington, well lets just say they haven't played the Muskies defense and Ryan Van Doo Loo. as for Carthages Defense, well they are second to none. top notch. Thats where the battle will be Lakelands Offense against Carthges Defense. Lakeland 34/Carthage 6
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Southfan on September 07, 2005, 02:29:46 pm
Hey maddog, I'm with you and think that Lakeland will win but it's going to be closer than that.  I'm thinking 14-10!
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: aufb05 on September 07, 2005, 04:19:23 pm
Southfan-

Hornung and his team are working their way through a new system. A key penalty and a few mental errors was the difference in that game. AU lost it, Cornell didn't win it.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Pat Coleman on September 07, 2005, 05:10:49 pm
I doubt Carthage is going to drop as many TD passes as it did against Carroll last week.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: micro on September 07, 2005, 10:32:14 pm
LC plays carthage and MAC plays at Wooster.. Two IBFC teams are about to knock off some top 25 teams this weekend.. I think Mac will suprize the Scots this weekend and LC will beat Carthage in overtime.. any other IBFC teams play any one worth while this weekend???

GO IBFC!!!
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: aufb05 on September 08, 2005, 09:43:01 am
Micro-

AU plays Alma (ranked #40 by DIII) at Alma. After last week, I'm not making a predicition. I think AU has a key position at RB coming back off an injury. Paro did a nice job last week but his #2 didn't play due to the injury. The FB did a nice job on traps (3 for 29) but they use the position mostly for blocking. The #3 RB sputtered for about 22 yds. I'm a fan of Hornung, if he hits his stride Alma is in for a long day. Defensively, AU's LB & Sr Capt. is out with an injury. Last week his replacement did some nice things but still has some catching up to do. I feel good about Saturday, but like I said no predictions.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: gc_fan on September 08, 2005, 11:36:40 am
Greenville is at Trinity International University in Deerfield on Saturday.  Trinity is ranked #16 in NAIA.  It should be an interesting match up because the new Greenville Head Coach and Offensive Coordinator were on the Trinity staff last year.  In addition 2 other Greenville assistants played for Trinity.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: maddog8 on September 08, 2005, 01:43:04 pm
Does any one know who was IBFC players of the week?
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: maddog8 on September 08, 2005, 05:51:16 pm
Just found out QB Ryan Maiuri Lakeland Offense, and Ryan Van Doo Loo LB, Lakeland for Defense Players of the week
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: aufb05 on September 08, 2005, 07:45:21 pm
Maddog-

Judging by what everyone did last week I say those where good choices. Hopefully the other half of the IBC will begin to claim some of that glory.

By the way proud papa who selects the POWs
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Gomer Pyle on September 10, 2005, 02:11:51 pm
 wooster up 17-0 on Mac.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: gc_fan on September 10, 2005, 02:49:59 pm
Trinity International Beating Greenville 19-0 at the end of the 1st quarter
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: gc_fan on September 10, 2005, 03:30:39 pm
At the Half - Trinity International #16 (NAIA) is beating Greenville 19 to 9
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Gomer Pyle on September 10, 2005, 03:54:42 pm
Wooster  37................Mac 0.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: gc_fan on September 10, 2005, 04:18:35 pm
At the end of 3, Trinity 19 - Greenville 11
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: gc_fan on September 10, 2005, 04:33:59 pm
8 min to go in regulation, Trinity 19 - Greenville 17
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: gc_fan on September 10, 2005, 04:55:28 pm
Final Score - Trinity 26 - Greenville 17
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: aufb05 on September 11, 2005, 11:23:38 am
Maddog-

AU POW for 9/10

After a very discouraging afternoon, AU limped home after losing to Ama 48-12.

AU OPW - QB Hornung, 14 of 19 for 140 yds.
AU DPW - SS Spear, 45 yd. interception for a TD

To date:
IBC (PF) 185  -  Non-Coference Teams 471 - So much for respect this year.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: gc_fan on September 11, 2005, 12:32:40 pm
Maddog - I did not "sign up" to help with your team from Greenville but I listened to the game on the radio yesterday......

Russell Reese - Defensive End had 2 sacks
Reggie Anthony - Punter - at least 2 punts inside the 20
Bryson Taylor - Wide Receiver - touchdown plus some good kickoff and punt returns
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: maddog8 on September 11, 2005, 06:56:53 pm
Thanks for your selections, Well what a game both teams fought like worriors. I will say the final should have been LC 16 Carthage 13. Yes Carthage won but the officiating was horrible to say the least in the final quarter. The calls were very bias and it showed they were cciw officials. Again both teams played well just wish the officials would have stayed out of it. If Carthage is 13th then Lakeland is definately in the top 25. WHAT A GAME. Great fireworks at half time.Excellent facility. POW-Arron Berry-Offense and Nick Zeck- defense
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Southfan on September 12, 2005, 09:34:47 am
Congratulations to Lakeland on a hard fought game.  I wish they would have pulled out the victory but it just didn't happen.  Don't worry maddog cause Carthage will come crashing down of its #13 ranking once they start CCIW play.  I really hope North Park gets them! 
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Southfan on September 12, 2005, 10:30:38 am
I'm puzzled to who is going to win the IBC this year based off of the non conference schedule?!  Aurora started out the same way last year but I don't think the same thing is going to happen with the new staff there.  They are struggling offensively!  I don't know about Concordia either?  My money is going on Lakeland to win the conference outright!!! None of this three-way tie s**t.  Go Muskies!!!!
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: micro on September 12, 2005, 11:22:10 am
South fan Im with you.. Who is going to win the IBFC this year based off Non conference schedule.. doesnt look to good for anyone. LC loses a close one to Carthage...MAC gets beat by Wooster.. MAC's offense could not by a good series... It was very unknown if the load could be carried by Ereg and Mike Schmidtke (QB).. The defense was on the field 80% of the time. Is this an indication of the 2003 season when MAC's offense was horrible??? I guess we will find out huh? Wonder whats going to happen when they go to Tri-State this weekend?
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: maddog8 on September 12, 2005, 11:43:31 am
I agree Lakeland all the way. Again Lakeland pysically beat Carthage, THE OFFICIALS GAVE THAT GAME TO CARTHAGE. Our Lord Jesus Christ could not have won that game the offucials would NOT let it happen.  We have Whitewater at home next week. Time will tell
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: markdamaker40 on September 12, 2005, 04:18:13 pm
I agree Lakeland all the way. Again Lakeland pysically beat Carthage, THE OFFICIALS GAVE THAT GAME TO CARTHAGE. Our Lord Jesus Christ could not have won that game the offucials would NOT let it happen.  We have Whitewater at home next week. Time will tell

YOU HAVE GOT TO BE KIDDING ME.  THE QB HAD NO IDEA WHAT HIT HIM.  The Defense held them to 52 yards rushing on 30 attempts when they average over 300. The Qb #8 was 13 for 38 passing for 148 and 2 picks NO TD's, he rushed 17 times for 38 yards.  Carthage needed to shut him down and they ended up derailing him. The ref's can not control cashing in on 5 turnovers. Plus you mention Barrie as player of the week he had 5 carries for 5 YARDS are you kidding me how can a player of the week have that kind of game.  Carthage made them one demensional and when you do that you win football games I don't care who you are.  That Qb has got to be having nightmares from all of the blitzing and the pounding that he took. There were many times where he could barely even walk to the sidelines. Lakeland is mad because they consider themselves under rated and this was THEIR ONLY CHANCE to prove the nation wrong and they couldn't do it.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: maddog8 on September 12, 2005, 07:50:46 pm
What Marker or Markermark what ever, Your right he did not knew what hit him because the plays were over, maybe that is why they were flagged what 8 times for ruffing the passer, more like some cheap shot. besides I asure you YOU could not have with standed half the punishment he took. Besides for there coach to e-mail me personnally talking how the D-Coord kept saying what does it take to get him out, say alot for the QB. Further jackass, lets talk about the refs, uncatchable balls, Lakeland flagged when the ball WENT THRU THE UPRIGHTS. YOU WOULD HAVE TO OF BEEN 16'8" WITH A 52 IN VERTICAL JUMP TO EVEN HAVE A CHANCE IN HELL TO CATCH THAT BALL. SECOND, WHEN DOES THE NCAA PUT THE BALL ON THE ONE YARD LINE IT SHOULD HAVE BEEN A 15 YRD WALK OFF, JUST MAYBE BECAUSE CARTHAGE WOULD NOT HAVE SCORED HAD THE BALL BEEN WALKED OFF 15 YRDS, BECAUSE THEY WOULD HAVE HAD TO STILL GO 26 YRDS AND THEY TOO COULD NOT MOVE THE BALL. Now having said my pease IF you were at the game YOU know what I am talking about. Please take nothing away from Carthage they fought hard minus the late hits on the QB. Also yes Barrie ran very hard, actually I'm sure he would run over a putts like you. Beside I think I probably have forgoten more about football than you know!
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: maddog8 on September 12, 2005, 08:00:02 pm
Oh and one more thing Mark on this Marker, The QB does get dazzeled by those hits that why he got up after everyone of those hits. As for showing the NATION well we did show the NATION because being unranked and barely losing to the what 13 ranked team, and punishing the 13th ranked team LET THE NATION BEWARE WERE FOR REAL!!!!!!!!!!!!
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: maddog8 on September 12, 2005, 08:01:25 pm
MY BAG THAT SHOULD HAVE BEEN DOES'NOT GET DAZZALED!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: markdamaker40 on September 12, 2005, 09:11:27 pm
Wow, Mad dog got a little mad, just like a typical Lakeland guy to bitch and moan when things don't go his way.  Ohh so the Qb is your son, I would be mad too if my son took a beating like that. Second I was at the game I believe there were only 2 penalties for roughing the passer not 8. The reason I know its not 8 cause in the stats that are posted on the web for ALL TO SEE it says 5 penalities for 40 yards. Last time I checked a roughing the passer penalty was 15. Unless that was a new rule change that I am unaware of.  If Barrie can run through a brick wall which is basically what you are trying to say to me why didn't they go to him more instead of 5 times.  That to me is not showing a lot of faith in your "Player of the Week." 

Now seriously though Lakeland is a tough team they will give teams trouble down the road but after this next week if they don't win the rest of their games, taking injuries out of there, that is horrible.  Had it not been for Lakeland going deep on a 3rd and 4 against Northwestern with about 2 minutes left in the game their first game score would have been 20-15 wow that almost looks like the score Carthage just beat you by.

Again though take nothing away from Lakeland just when plays needed to be made they didn't make them and the fact that their 300 pound linemen are holding like the defensive linemen are candy bars doesn't mean the refs lost you the game.

Period.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Gomer Pyle on September 13, 2005, 09:20:29 am
Maddog8:  Just looked at the game stats.
  Did lakeland have a punt blocked and returned for a TD?  If i`m wrong, my apologies.
  I`ve read your comments and i see the vigor but
  it`s early in the season so proceed with candor
  and don`t be so quick to take the bait. We both know "facts" are indisputable and B/S and opinions
   are debatable and referee`s are at every game
   as unbiased (?) rules  enforcers. You have left your self open  to a whole lot of "jaw-boning"
   from this forum but you already know that remember last year?
   Having a family member playing at LC and with the with the anticipation of a possible Conference Championship at hand and maybe a play-off game
  the stakes are high. That being said,  when you stick to the facts ( like-um or not)  your comments are  beyond reproach.  In the past you`ve been
  thoughtful and fair in your comments  about the IBFC and it`s players/teams.  That IMO gives up a leg up on this forum , don`t take the bait!
   I`m not taking you to task in any way just expressing my opinion  from my experiences after over 4 years posting. I must say i had some great
  times on this site.
  LC is doing what other IBFC schools should do and that`s to play quality competion and i a take my hat off to them for that.  No offense to others.
  IMO, if LC doesn`t win the conference this year
  they`ve wasted a great run. I have no ax to grind
  so that`s just how i see it.
  As i said above, my comments are not ment to be
  mean sprited in any way.
     
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: maddog8 on September 13, 2005, 11:39:50 am
Gomer your right and therefore I am enjoying the season and not getting into any more post arguments. Sorry just hate when people knock my MUSKIES. I hope all the IBFC team do well this weekend and please leave your players of the week regardless of stats, heart does play a factor in the ALL MADDOG TEAM. so please don't exclude someone based on stats. I stand by Barrie and Zeck as my players of the week for Lakeland! Talk to you all next week.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: aufb05 on September 13, 2005, 03:47:14 pm
Maddog-

POW for week 3

Coach Duncan - He was wise enough to change his "bye" week to the third week before starting conference matchups. Now if we could just dump Valpo from the end of the schedule for a decent DIII non-conference team our tune up for the playoffs would be considerably better.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Gomer Pyle on September 14, 2005, 07:47:27 am
 The schedule for this week-end does not favor
  teams from the IBFC, IMO.(3) teams are playing
  good programs,( 2) playing so-so teams and (1)
   playing a weak team.
  Winners are , again this is my opinion, are:
     Concordia, Wis.
     MacMurray.... "needs" to beat X-coach Frey.
  Not so lucky:
    Concordia, Ill
    Eureka
    Greenville..... #22 Wheaton to strong.
    Benedictine.....#18 Carthage brings the heat.
    LC...................#15 UW-Whitewater. To many 
     horses.
  Course we`ll all know for sure Sat night.... who did what.
         

     
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: aufb05 on September 14, 2005, 09:31:54 am
Gomer-

Sometimes you got to hate saturday nights - but I agree with your outlook for this weekend. Another dismal non-conference year.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: maddog8 on September 14, 2005, 03:12:03 pm
Wheaton
Carthage
LAKELAND
CUW
Mac

MADDOG'S PIKCS
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Southfan on September 16, 2005, 11:02:06 am
Wow is this chat room dead! 
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: aufb05 on September 16, 2005, 02:18:46 pm
Hansen is predicting Con/Il. will route Rose - that's gutsy - but it would be nice to see.

Chicago area fans Ben palys a Sat. night game at their new stad. 7pm
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: doughboy69 on September 16, 2005, 11:27:21 pm
I hear that. Drinking starts at noon BU fans. Will we need the brown paper bags? We will see.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: fsufan on September 17, 2005, 02:22:43 am
The turn around begins.  CURF over Rose H.  It might be close, but a win non the less.  GO COUGARS!  8)
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Gomer Pyle on September 17, 2005, 05:49:09 pm
 Some early final scores do not look good for teams in the IBC.   Enought said at this time.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: aufb05 on September 17, 2005, 07:36:36 pm
50/50 Gomer-

lake tanked 73-12
Greenville tanked 58-7

Con(Wisc) nice win 40-13
Mac no problem 41-27
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: SaintsFAN on September 17, 2005, 08:14:39 pm
Just curious to hear from maddog what he saw today.  I am not being negative (and its a shame that I should have to say that), just want to hear what happened.  I was thinking Lakeland had a chance.  Sounds like your son played reasonably well considering the type of game it was..

"We've done that to so many people over the last two years, and this was the first time it ever happened to us," Zebrowski said. "Next week's the most important week, seeing if they're going to play or if we're going to start questioning ourselves."

So I guess Benedictine is up on the chopping block for another 70 spot?

Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: aufb05 on September 17, 2005, 11:40:43 pm
Saints Fan-

Final -  Ben zip, C. Redmens 52

If next week is Lake's "most important" week than they're not a contender. S... happens, they played two top teams they should take what they learned (if anything) and get on with the rest of the rseason.

A lot of ankle and knee injuries on Bens turf tonight.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: irishlover on September 18, 2005, 09:06:40 am
Way to go Highlanders.........you bounced back from a blowout against Wooster and got a big victory over Bob Frey and the Tri-State Thunder, keep up the good work coaches.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Gomer Pyle on September 18, 2005, 09:46:46 am
 Like i said early in the week the IBC was going to have it`s hands full. Granted they played some really good teams and i , for one, didn`t think the out come would be pretty but to see that lakeland
  got beat  73-12 by UW-WW, which by the way
  was the most lop sided loss,score wise, In all of Div III play yesterday..Mount Union was next
   beating John Carroll  70-0.
  Like the Lakeland Coach said in part," we`ve done this to some now we`ve had it done to us."
  Give Lakeland credit as they chose to play "up"
   which i think gives their program added exposure  in D-3. There is no moral victory here,
   they lost to a superior team and now they can move on in their quest for an IBFC championship.
   Score wish the "average" score around the IBC was  43-10.  As all but (2) teams lost that doesn`t speak well for the IBC. IMO.
  ConCordia,Wis and Mac  did what was expected and both won.  They could  challenge in the IBC
   but it`s still early in the season.
   BU will be there at the end but unfortunately at the bottom of the conference. same for Concordia,Ill.
   Greenville should "up-set" somebody but still have an average year.
    Eureka always seems to scare people or at least play them close so who knows  maybe like Greenville  they to will pull an up-set.  That`s a big maybe.
  Aurora: I`ll call then this years 'dark-horse."
  By that i mean everybody better keep them in sight at all times. They could take it all. Time will tell
 
  Like i said it`still early in the season and leaque play is set to start so now is when it counts. All the
   losses to non-conference foes mean nothing. Except to possibly help guage where you are as a team.  Like John Paul Jones said," dam(n) the losses, full speed ahead."
 As usual my comments are not ment to be mean spirited in any way just  some thoughts about the IBC.
 
  
      
      
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: D3Somebody on September 18, 2005, 12:40:04 pm
How bad is Benedictine? Are they worse than they were last year?

I think it's time that they fold their program. They have gotten blown out 3 weeks in a row.

And yes, losing to North Central by 17 is still a blowout when your Offense scores 2 TD's on NCC's 2nd/3rd team. I'm just surprised NCC didn't run it up more.

BU is terrible.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Les Paul on September 18, 2005, 12:40:40 pm
Good win Mac, let's keep it rolling into the conference.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: aufb05 on September 18, 2005, 07:21:52 pm
D3Somebody-

I don't know if you watched BU play Saturday but I saw a lot of positives despite the score. 1st - BU roster is made of  mainly Fresh/Soph players. 2nd they have a new coaching staff which was assembled late in the year.  Give it a couple years and this team won't be one dimensional. Time and experience matures players. Be there in two years and I think you'll change your mind about dumping the program. 
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: SaintsFAN on September 18, 2005, 09:13:12 pm
aufb05,

I agree.  If I were coaching Lakeland, I'd probably just throw out that tape and just move on.  They haven't lost a conference game, and thats their ticket to the playoffs. 

gomer,

Actually Mt. Union's score was more lopsided because they outscored JCU by 70 whereas Whitewater outscored Lakeland by 61....just some of that college level math I was able to pick up during my time in school :)

D3somebody,

Granted, BU has been blown out this year but you are kicking them while they are down.  Your thoughts that they should "fold" their program is one of the most assinine statements I've ever read on this site...and this is how you choose to introduce yourself to post patterns?  Like aufb05 said, they are a young team.  No team of freshman and sophomores will be talented enough to overcome all the adversity that happens during a game....

Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: scotty on September 18, 2005, 09:31:07 pm
SaintsFan, what no hug...youve won me over...
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Gomer Pyle on September 19, 2005, 08:02:47 am
SaintsFan....you look at it that way and you are correct!  I should have said," scored against."  That`s what i was getting at but my old education much have failed me.
  Re-phrase, by giving up 73 points LC was on the receiving end of the highest scoring football game played this past week-end ( 9/17/05) in D-III.
  I`m not re-posting for any purpose other than
  re-clarification.
 
 

           

 
 
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: SaintsFAN on September 19, 2005, 08:46:37 am
Gomer,

I gotcha....no harm, no foul.

scotty,

grow up.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Big_Uns on September 19, 2005, 10:55:33 am
Yes, the score was 73-12, but let's not look past the fact that LC still gained 353 yards on the Warhawks. That 12 could've easily been more. Two weeks in a row a blocked punt turned the tides. Lakeland was in the game at 14-12, but saw it all slip away after a dropped pass that would've been a first down, then the blocked punt on the next possession. Had that pass been caught, Lakeland could've driven down the field for a score, either a FG or TD, and then you're looking at 17-15 UWW with a FG or even 20-17 Lakeland. It's amazing what momentum can do for a game.

The team as a whole looked dejected after the game, but Coach Zebrowski was upbeat and they'll be ready for conference. They've got their sights set on the IBC championship and a playoff berth and are not going to worry too long about losing to Whitewater.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Mugsy on September 19, 2005, 11:27:03 am
Yes, the score was 73-12, but let's not look past the fact that LC still gained 353 yards on the Warhawks. That 12 could've easily been more. Two weeks in a row a blocked punt turned the tides. Lakeland was in the game at 14-12, but saw it all slip away after a dropped pass that would've been a first down, then the blocked punt on the next possession. Had that pass been caught, Lakeland could've driven down the field for a score, either a FG or TD, and then you're looking at 17-15 UWW with a FG or even 20-17 Lakeland. It's amazing what momentum can do for a game.

The team as a whole looked dejected after the game, but Coach Zebrowski was upbeat and they'll be ready for conference. They've got their sights set on the IBC championship and a playoff berth and are not going to worry too long about losing to Whitewater.

A lot of "could've/would've"...  Much easier to digest if the game ended up 24-12, NOT 73-12!  Momentum doesn't account for 61pt difference and giving up over 650 yds offense.  "If Whitewater hadn't scored 9 more TD's than Lakeland, Lakeland could've won." :o
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: aufb05 on September 19, 2005, 01:34:15 pm
Big-Uns-

Lake should focus on their next game like everyone else. Focusing on the end game may wind up disappointing half way through the season. If you think AU, Mac, Con(w) or anyone else for that matter is going to let Lake role over them, think again.   
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: D3Somebody on September 19, 2005, 07:29:12 pm
AUFB,

Aren't you the same person who tore down Benedictine the last few months before the season?

Now all of a sudden since BU has a coach from AU, you are giving them credit? Nice try.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: aufb05 on September 19, 2005, 08:49:47 pm
D3Somebody-

Re-read the post pal, we (Fat Pongo) were talking about BU sky boxes. As for AU I'm a IBC D3 fan that lives near the AU University. I happen to believe that the IBC can someday emerge out of the cellar and be competitive. That said and in respect of the men who play this game, asking that a program be eliminated is B... S...  If your a BU student tell Joe Sergo you don't appreciate his team efforts. If your a BU parent or friend rethink your kids school or your friendship or change your handle to D3Nobody. Either way support your program or tell your sad story to someone who gives a s...
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: D3Somebody on September 20, 2005, 12:13:05 am
Alhough I don't know if they are archived, I'm sure you have ripped on BU before.

Everything you said in your post has nothing to do with you giving BU credit...simply because a former AU coach is the HC there. That is the ONLY reason you are giving BU credit. Obviously he is not that good...I think BU would be better off with their last two coaches.

And what would "Joe Sergo" do if I told him I don't appreciate "his"(not his) team's efforts? Do you know him personally and know what he would do?

Bottom line, don't stick up for BU because of it's AU coach...because that is the only reason you are doing it.

Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: aufb05 on September 20, 2005, 09:49:54 am
D3Nobody-

Get a life.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Da One on September 20, 2005, 12:26:35 pm
Let's face it, This is the last year the IBC will be in existance and national respect will never happen.  All the IBC teams can do is forget the non-conference schedule and focus on the most important game of the season, the next one.  Good luck to all IBC teams. 
Maddog,
Don't worry there is no team like UW-WW in the IBC.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: d3fballfan on September 20, 2005, 01:14:49 pm
D3douchebag (somebody)....Yes it's going to be a long season, but here's the deal on BU:

1. Nobody recruited for the program this year after the coach was fired until March 1st.

2. Team has few returning players. Most of the roster consists of underclassmen. Keep in mind they were 1-9 last year with those players.

3. Key injuries...especially the freshman QB who has shown some spark, RB and a host of others.

4. First 3 games versus tough competition. 2 of them against nationally ranked teams.

I'm sorry but making a statement that they should fold the program is a tad ignorant. It's impossible to turn a program around in one season considering how it has deteriorated over the last few years. You can't blame the coaching staff with what they've been given to work with. Give BU a couple years. Plus, let's see how they do against weaker IBFC teams.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: maddog8 on September 20, 2005, 01:25:05 pm
To all concern, Maddog is still positive on the MUSKIES, Yes they got trashed, but the bright side is that they played TWO top ranked teams and came out of them unharmed and physically ready for the IBFC. The way I see it is LAKELAND has two options, give up which would be a mistake or regroup and get ready for the conference. Looking at Whitewater, (WOW). they looked like they were in there 7 th week of football, clicking on all cylinders. LAKELAND had some bright moments, but again to many , misques. They will be ready, Coach "Z" will not let them QUIT. There leadership is second to none and will have the troops ready. Again this is really the way to prepare for the conference play against 2 top ranked teams. LAKELAND  now knows what it will take in the playoffs to get the FIRST IBFC PLAYOFF WIN.  Again take nothing away from Whitewater, they were phanominal. LAKELAND has a great team and has nothing to be ashamed of, they played a great team both Offensively and Defensively.  LAKELANDS Leadership has to step it up to get to that level, MY MONEY IS STILL ON THE MUSKIES!!!!!.  i WILL SAY THAT i DID WITNESS A RECEIVER BORN. Eric Royal my son you took ungoddly punishment on your receptions and still hung onto the ball.. Those hits you took were Ronny Lott hits and still held onto the ball, that was missing last year. Great job and keep on improving. Maddog out til next week.  Oh Da One thanks, I agree with you good luck this weekend for family week.  OUT
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: aufb05 on September 20, 2005, 01:34:20 pm
Maddog-

You better be positive on Lake or the the team will take you to the woodshed. Hang in their friend, an exciting IBC seasons starts Saturday.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: SaintsFAN on September 21, 2005, 07:43:54 am
With the congratulating a WR on taking hits, why is Lakeland QB laying out his receivers to dry? 

Sorry maddog, had to do it  :)
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Gomer Pyle on September 21, 2005, 07:46:15 am
 The real season starts now.
  (1) Aurora over Greenville. Was going to pick this as a possible "dark horse" game but then thought better of it.
  (2) Concordia,Wis over Mac. There is a caveat to that though. If Mac can get a good passing game going to back up a running game then mac has a good chance at a "W". If none of that happens and they (Mac) just play good "D", i think Con, Wis takes it with the aid of their F/G kicker. A close game either way.
  (3) Lakeland over BU.  You have to feel for BU as LC will be out show the IBFC who`s the boss. The sting of getting beaten last week( by a superior team) will translate into an ulgy game. By that i mean points wise. Lakeland didn`t like the score last week and BU can`t score so bombs away.
  (4) Eureka and Concordia,Ill is in my view a toss up. Neither team has shown much so far so their`s should be the best game of the week in terms of
  strenght of programs. They`ll just battle it out
  and when the whistle blows at the end of the game..... somebody will get the "W".
    As always by saturday night we`ll all know for sure who did what.
    My comments are not met to fan the fires just to
    express my opinion.
    
  
  .  

  
  
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: aufb05 on September 21, 2005, 09:47:23 am
Gomer Pyle-

If AU v Green is a possible "dark-horse" then AU's season is in trouble. We'll see if their bye week helped them with their transition.

Lake will win but I'll be surprised if the score gets runned up to high double digit numbers (over 50). Ben is not going to give it away.

I like MAC over Con(W)

I agree w/you on Eureka & Con(I) a coin toss - though I think Con(I) needs the win more than Eureka.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: FalconsFootball on September 21, 2005, 02:19:12 pm
The word is, from WW, that Lakeland played so dirty WW put their starters back in to teach them a lesson.  Way to go out and earn that respect. Or how about Mac, rushing another teams band as they go through their pre-game routine. Well done there too.   ???

The IBC needs to compete and win to get respect and we still have not done that.  Lets all have a good season and play hard in the games we have left.  Good luck to everyone and lets make it a good year.  And how about winning a playoff game, then the respect will come.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: baseman201 on September 23, 2005, 01:42:18 am
Ok,

I have been reading posts the whole season, and listening to Maddog rant and rave about his little Lakeland posse.  It's about time to put in my 2 cents.

Among the firsts posts for Maddog was Lakeland being a top 25 team......that is complete and utter bulls**t, and everyone knows it.  The 73-12 loss to Whitewater should have proved that. 

Though I am a IBFC fan, we have the weakest conference in all of D-III.  When our "top" IBFC team loses 73-12, we have a problem here. 

There is no way a IBFC team will win a playoff game.  Though I do give Aurora credit for what they did against Wooster last year.  Maddogg, you are overrating Lakeland WAYYYY to much, sure, they will beat the IBFC teams and possibly make it to the playoffs, and then what?  Lose 80-3 because they have to play a top team like Linfield or Mount Union.  The team that makes it from the IBFC will face an opponent that can probably beat alot of D-I programs. 

The team that makes the playoffs enjoy your conference championship, but that's where it ends.  Here is my prediction.  The team that makes the playoffs this year, whether it be Aurora, Con W., Macmurry, or Lakeland, will get beat by a margin of 40+ points.  Mark it down, tell your friends.

And maddogg, quit telling us how great your son is, if he was so great, wouldn't he want to play maybe at a higher level, possibly D-II.  Maybe he just looks good by comparison to other IBFC teams? HMMMMMMM, something to think about.

I am out
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Big_Uns on September 23, 2005, 02:16:55 pm
I don't see any groundbreaking material in that post. I'm pretty sure that it was common knowledge that the IBFC is very weak in comparison to anyone, if not the weakest conference.

I think it's possible for any team to struggle on any given day. Only the best truly shine year round. Linfield beat Rowan 52-0 in the NATIONAL SEMIFINAL so I don't know what your point is about being blown out by the best team. I think that's proof it can happen to anybody. What was it--a few years ago when Oklahoma beat Texas A&M 77-0? Or what about even in the NFL when San Fran beat Denver 55-10 in the SUPER BOWL?

73-12 is just a couple of numbers to me. What if Lakeland meets WW in the first round of the playoffs and the score is 35-24? What does that say? Anything can happen, especially in college athletics. The unpredictability is half the fun.

Last year, Concordia only beats Eureka 7-3, yet the two teams CUW shared the title with beat Eureka by a collective score of 93-3. Does that make CUW any less of a team? Obviously not because they beat Lakeland and were co-champs.

Plain and simple, you can't guage a team's ability on any one particular game. I think it's probably best if you let the players and the day decide the winner of a game before you get down on an entire conference for one team's bad day.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: aufb05 on September 23, 2005, 02:34:44 pm
Big-Uns-

How does your post rate a -2 "Karma" ?
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: SaintsFAN on September 23, 2005, 02:55:54 pm
Big uns,

I see your point....but what was the public's reaction after all those blowouts you brought up??


Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: baseman201 on September 23, 2005, 03:18:22 pm
No, I was just getting pissed at Maddogg for telling us how great Lakeland is, and is a top 25 team.  Then, I found myself going on about how much our conference blows.

But, I am still sticking to my word on the team from the IBFC that makes the playoffs will lose by 40+ points, I am sure there is someone out there who agrees withe me.

But I agree, teams do get lucky from time to time and play a great game.  Like Aurora last year in the playoffs, Wooster was supposed to absolutely give it to them, and they stuck it out, and turned it into a great game.

the saying is true, "any given sunday", but for us "any given Saturday".  In D-III it happens, but not very often.

Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Southfan on September 23, 2005, 03:42:59 pm
Baseman201,

I will agree with you about the IBC champion getting to the playoffs and getting beat by 30 or 40 points because lets face it, the IBC is a weak conference.  Here something else that you should look at is the WIAC is supposedly the best conference in the nation but look at their track record when it comes to the playoffs.  Their champ makes it past the second round and then gets their butts kicked by the #1 seed.  It doesn't matter who playes Mt. Union, St. John's, Linfield, etc. they're going to get clobbered.  D3 is similar to NAIA; alot of good teams but when it comes to playoffs there is a major drop off from the top 5 to the rest.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: fsufan on September 24, 2005, 12:48:20 am
It is really refreshing to know that other people are worrying about the important issues in the IBC (championships, title runs, post season wins, all conference team, etc.). All we are looking for is a win!  GO CURF :)
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: D3Somebody on September 24, 2005, 02:47:34 am
D3douchebag (somebody)....Yes it's going to be a long season, but here's the deal on BU:

1. Nobody recruited for the program this year after the coach was fired until March 1st.

2. Team has few returning players. Most of the roster consists of underclassmen. Keep in mind they were 1-9 last year with those players.

3. Key injuries...especially the freshman QB who has shown some spark, RB and a host of others.

4. First 3 games versus tough competition. 2 of them against nationally ranked teams.

I'm sorry but making a statement that they should fold the program is a tad ignorant. It's impossible to turn a program around in one season considering how it has deteriorated over the last few years. You can't blame the coaching staff with what they've been given to work with. Give BU a couple years. Plus, let's see how they do against weaker IBFC teams.

1) Other teams have dealt with it and not lost their first 3 games by an average of about 30 points

2) What's your point? They were 1-9 with underclassmen last year, and they are on pace to go 0-10. Do you honestly think you(you're certainly a BU player) are going to win any games this year? You need to score points to win games. And if you don't score points, you need a good defense(which you don't, giving up 150 points in 3 games).

3) Don't pull the injury card out...every team has injuries, BU isn't the only team. No excuses.

4) Tough competition? Sure...NCC and Carthage can play, but Elmhurst? They are at the bottom of the CCIW

Making the statement that administration should fold the program is smart. Give me ONE, that's all i'm asking, ONE good reason why they should not fold the program. And I'm sick and tired of people like you blaming BU's records on coaching changes. "Give them a couple of years"...well it's been 4 years since Hand left, and all losing records. How many years is a couple? 10, 20?

"Let's see how they do against weaker teams"....YOU ARE THE WEAKEST TEAM IN THE CONFERENCE. There is nobody weaker than you!

BU won't win a game this year. This is the 0-10 season that will shut the door on the program(or at least it should). Lakeland, Mac, Conc-Wisc will beat them by 40-50 points each. Aurora will by at least 3 TD's. Eureka and Greenville will win by 2-3 TD'S. And CURF will cap their season by winning by a solid 10 points. You heard it hear first.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: aufb05 on September 24, 2005, 10:35:23 am
D3Nobody sounds like Fat Pongo to me. Go for kid run down your team the rest of couldn't care less, that proavly goes for you team.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: D3Somebody on September 25, 2005, 02:30:40 am
D3Nobody sounds like Fat Pongo to me. Go for kid run down your team the rest of couldn't care less, that proavly goes for you team.

Run down my team? I have no association with Benedictine Football at all. Don't be upset that I was right...and that you back up BU football simply because it has a coach from AU on it now. Last year you wouldn't have said a word to back up BU. Why now?
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Gomer Pyle on September 25, 2005, 08:05:34 am
  The IBFC shook out like it was supposed to this past sat, 9/24.
  The best game from a pure football stand-point was  Eureka/ Concordia,Ill.
  It`s early yet but i wouldn`t be surprised to see
  a different than "expected" team at the top of the conference at the end of the season. Time will tell.
   
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: aufb05 on September 25, 2005, 10:14:14 am
D3wantabe-


BU won't win a game this year. This is the 0-10 season that will shut the door on the program(or at least it should). Lakeland, Mac, Conc-Wisc will beat them by 40-50 points each.

Conference Week 1 - Lake final over Ben - 38 points
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Big_Uns on September 25, 2005, 10:37:45 am
Shut the door on the program? Yes, the team is definitely no good now, but the facilities BU now has will bring in recruits sometime in the near future. The Sports Complex is hands down one of the finest facilities in D3.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: D3Somebody on September 25, 2005, 12:01:48 pm
D3wantabe-


BU won't win a game this year. This is the 0-10 season that will shut the door on the program(or at least it should). Lakeland, Mac, Conc-Wisc will beat them by 40-50 points each.

Conference Week 1 - Lake final over Ben - 38 points

Pretty good huh? I was only 2 points off.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: footballfan05 on September 25, 2005, 03:18:03 pm
BU dropping its program would be absolutely stupid.  And by the way CURF has had just as little sucess as BU latley so why shouldnt they drop their program some people here obviously have it out for BU.  I f you remeber correctly it was CURF that was 0-10 last year even though BU was 1-9.  And BU has obviously decided to make a commitment to football with the building of a sports complex that is better than any field in conference for sure and is one of the top in the nation. This in its self along with Jon Coopers reputation will bring in recruits.  Just look at the improvement from last year, a Lakeland offense that put 70 some points on them last year was held off for 2 quarters after putting up 24 points (If i remember correctly Lakeland returned 8 staters on O). The final score of this game really should have been 38-7 because of a late fumble on a KOR it was 45.  But for someone to say they should just drop the program is completley ignorant. Just because a team has a few bad years with some coaching changes (I'm not saying this is why they arent sucessful) is no reason to drop a program that in the late 90's was competitive in the conference. Rather they are rebuilding the program when you do only return a small amount of players you cant expect a team to immediately beat teams such as carthage, ncc, or lakelan
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: baseman201 on September 25, 2005, 04:50:39 pm
Yeah I agree, Benedictine dropping their program is pretty rediculious, in fact any team dropping their program would be a horrible move. 

First, Benedictine has won 26 games since 1999, CURF has only won 5 since that time.  A few years ago Benedictine looked pretty good.  But, the reason that dropping the programs is a bad idea is simple.  It's not soccer bringing in the money, it's football.  Win or lose, I guarantee CURF and Benedictine get 700-1,000+ fans (or close to) at every game.  Cancelling the programs would mean a huge loss in revenue.  Where do you think the huge D-I schools get their revenue from, it's not girls field hockey I can guarantee you that. 

Yeah, and the BU Lakeland game, I thought would be a whole lot worse than 45-7, and I didnt even know about the fumble on the KOR at the end.  Maybe Lakeland isnt as good as once thought.  I would like Maddogg to chyme in here at anytime, havent heard from you in a while there sporty.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: D3Somebody on September 25, 2005, 05:10:01 pm
BU dropping its program would be absolutely stupid.  And by the way CURF has had just as little sucess as BU latley so why shouldnt they drop their program some people here obviously have it out for BU.  I f you remeber correctly it was CURF that was 0-10 last year even though BU was 1-9.  And BU has obviously decided to make a commitment to football with the building of a sports complex that is better than any field in conference for sure and is one of the top in the nation. This in its self along with Jon Coopers reputation will bring in recruits.  Just look at the improvement from last year, a Lakeland offense that put 70 some points on them last year was held off for 2 quarters after putting up 24 points (If i remember correctly Lakeland returned 8 staters on O). The final score of this game really should have been 38-7 because of a late fumble on a KOR it was 45.  But for someone to say they should just drop the program is completley ignorant. Just because a team has a few bad years with some coaching changes (I'm not saying this is why they arent sucessful) is no reason to drop a program that in the late 90's was competitive in the conference. Rather they are rebuilding the program when you do only return a small amount of players you cant expect a team to immediately beat teams such as carthage, ncc, or lakelan

Exactly how do you give a team credit when it goes 1-9, and their only win was against an 0-10 team? And then follows up that 1-9 with an 0-4 start (let's not forget the 2-8 season before that). So what is BU? 3-21 in their last 24 games?

And are you slow? Do you really think BU built a sports complex for the FOOTBALL program? Because they didn't. They did because BU didn't pay a DIME for it, the Village of Lisle did. They wanted to host events such as this years National Track and Field championships, Special olympics, and the Chicago Bandits(who just happens to have one of the most popular female athletes in the WORLD on it). If Benedictine cared about the football program, they would have went out and searched for a coach with head coaching experience, not an assistant for 19 years. There's a reason Cooper never became head coach at Aurora.

And stop with the "John Cooper" ass kissing. You're obviously affiliated with Aurora somehow. All of you Aurora people have always put down Benedictine as a school...and now all of a sudden you "feel" for BU because your beloved Cooper is at the school. It's pretty tasteless. And because BU only lost by 38 this year instead of 56, it's a big improvement? Correct me if I'm wrong, but didn't BU lose to a National Contending Carthage team by less points last year than they did to Carthage this year minus All-American Dante Washington and others?

Keywords: The final "should have"....when will this stop? There are no should have could have would have's in football....the final is the final.

And how long have they been rebuilding? This is the 5th year of it. How long do they need?

And no one's asking BU to beat Lakeland, Carthage, and NCC....but competition would be nice....losing by 38 this week, 52 last week, and 17(which was really 31 because the 2 TD's were on NCC'S 3rd team defense) is not competition....oh and what also isn't competition? Losing to a team(Elmhurst) who was predicted to be 2nd to the last in the CCIW by 46 points, 53 without the TD with a minute left on Elmhurst's 3rd team.

Fold the program.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: D3Somebody on September 25, 2005, 05:14:06 pm
Yeah I agree, Benedictine dropping their program is pretty rediculious, in fact any team dropping their program would be a horrible move. 

First, Benedictine has won 26 games since 1999, CURF has only won 5 since that time.  A few years ago Benedictine looked pretty good.  But, the reason that dropping the programs is a bad idea is simple.  It's not soccer bringing in the money, it's football.  Win or lose, I guarantee CURF and Benedictine get 700-1,000+ fans (or close to) at every game.  Cancelling the programs would mean a huge loss in revenue.  Where do you think the huge D-I schools get their revenue from, it's not girls field hockey I can guarantee you that. 

Yeah, and the BU Lakeland game, I thought would be a whole lot worse than 45-7, and I didnt even know about the fumble on the KOR at the end.  Maybe Lakeland isnt as good as once thought.  I would like Maddogg to chyme in here at anytime, havent heard from you in a while there sporty.

You guarantee Benedictine is bringing in 700-100 fans each game? You obviously have never been to a game. Curf and Benedictine combined don't bring in 700 fans to each of their home games. And don't look to the box scores for the attendance numbers....they are raised so high it's not even funny.

BU would lose no revenue from dropping their program. In fact, they may gain. Consider the cost of jerseys, equipment, coaches salaries, road trips, insurance, etc. vs. Money from Benedictine Football apparel(which nobody wears, not even the players from what i'm told) and attendance money.....looks to me like they would be saving a ton of money.

And you thought it would be a lot worse than 45-7? 38 points is almost 6 TD's. How much worse did you expect? This isn't USC playing Eastern Illinois, this is two Division 3 teams with Division 3 players.

Again, Fold the program.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: SaintsFAN on September 25, 2005, 05:24:05 pm
d3somebody,

You have a valid point regarding comparing scores from last season to this season.  I just don't think it merits dropping the program.  Yes, the team may be painful to watch/read about (and I think someone was on here in the preseason saying they are close to contending)---but dropping the program because of some losses (ok alot of losses) would be ignorant.

Lets get a discussion going here....Given the state of the BU program right now what would you do to fix this mess of a program??  And lets go ahead and say that dropping the sport is not an option.....

Me?  I have no idea....I could not give an educated opinoin since I am not at all familiar with BU.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: SaintsFAN on September 25, 2005, 05:32:56 pm
Another valid discussion point has been brought up in the past two weeks also.  Is Lakeland not as good as originally thought?  Or did they take it easy on BU and just run into a team in Whitewater that would put up 73 on anyone in the country?

I am curious because before the season I thought Lakeland would be the conference representative in the playoffs and with everyone they had back from last season, they'd make a good showing...
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: aufb05 on September 25, 2005, 06:26:35 pm
Enough about BU and the guy/girl who says he/she is not from BU but knows more about the team than anyone else on this board. If "D3Nobody" wants to get rid of the program then he/she should petition the BU Administration. Putting up stupid posts on this board isn't going solve his/her personal problems w/BU. That said lets get off the subject.

Lake may not be the sweetheart team this year. CUR(W) is making their presence known after pounding MAC 59-19. If Lake counldn't beat BU by that much, what wiil they do against a better team like MAC. I think the season's representative may unfold next week when CUR(W) host AU.  By the way Greenville is certainly not the team it was last year. Their "D" has speed, size and talent.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Mr. Ypsi on September 25, 2005, 07:24:37 pm
aufb,

While I agree the subject has been run into the ground, my two cents.

I'm not sure Benedictine has fallen any further than North Park fell in recent years (they are 3-0 this year) or than Carthage fell in the 90s (they won two games in the playoffs last year).  These things are cyclical - IF BU is committed to fielding competitive teams, they should continue; if not, dropping should be considered.

Memo to baseman - d3 teams would not LOSE tremendous revenue by dropping football.  MAYBE Mt. Union and a few others break even (though I doubt even that), but at the d3 level, even fball costs are never recovered from revenues, much less funding the athletic department.  Even at the d1 level, most athletic departments are a drain on the general fund; you're confusing Benedictine with U of Michigan!  When you AVERAGE 110,000 fans (at $60 a seat), AND sell $millions in merchandise, THEN cutting fball would cost tremendous revenue (it might save your soul as an academic institution, but it would cost money  :(), but I very much doubt there is ANY d3 school where athletics is not a drain on general funds.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: D3Somebody on September 25, 2005, 07:35:21 pm
Mr.,

But AUFB knows everything, so don't you dare argue with him. Coach Cooper is at the helm, therfore the team should be respected simply because he is Aurora affiliated.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: fsufan on September 25, 2005, 07:48:02 pm
I do not like all this talk of dropping programs at BU or CURF.  No one from either school has said anything in the last few years about dropping FB, have they? Loosing streaks are part of the game, some just happen to be longer than others.  I don't think FB brings any kids to BU or CURF on its own basis nor will it keep them there.  It seems that the overall financial condition of the institution will determine the elimination of any activity, academic or athletic.  Let us hope that both schools keep playing and start winning. Ya I know - wishful thinking.  Winning rocks and loosing sucks but the kids keep playing every game and more keep showing up every year.  You explain it!  :)
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: baseman201 on September 25, 2005, 08:28:03 pm
I can explain it,

Because the D-III level is more about participation and fun.  No one is even thinking about making it to the NFL at D-III schools, (with exception of a small handfull last year) Even if BU and CURF go 1-9 and 0-10 again this year, I bet the players enjoyed every minute of playing NCAA college football, no matter what the outcome is.  And I will agree, BU has a nice ass facility over there, whether it be for their football team or not, it's top notch man.

yeah, when I think about it now, I guess D-III programs don't really get alot on revenue from games.  I guess I just wanted to take a shot at soccer for being such a pussy sport.  And by the way, CURF DOES get around 700-1,000 a game.....I just know, leave it at that.

Even if your programs sucks, people like going out and seeing a football game on a Saturday afternoon, there is nothing better, no matter how crappy the teams are.

Its true, losing streaks are apart of the game, and you never know what will happen the next year.  And speaking of Carthage, in 2003 they had a losing 3-7 record, but the very next year they went 11-2 winning 2 playoffs games.  So anything can happen, you never know who will show up at BU, CURF, Eureka, or any other school the following year, and change them into a playoff contendor.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Mr. Ypsi on September 25, 2005, 08:37:29 pm
baseman,

I'm basically on your side in the argument, so watch that stuff about soccer being a 'pussy sport' - I coach what everyone else in the world calls football!  ;D
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: D3Somebody on September 25, 2005, 09:06:00 pm
Tell David Beckham soccer is a pussy sport....man it sure would suck to be him  :-[
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Big_Uns on September 25, 2005, 09:27:56 pm
The score of the LC-BU game could've been a lot worse. Lakeland's receivers were beating them deep all game long (a 70-yard touchdown pass was dropped after LC's receiver got about 5 steps ahead of the BU defender. Also, there was an hour and a half lightning delay midway through the second quarter. I think it threw both teams' off. LC scored 24 points before that.

After that dropped deep ball, they stopped going deep and basically stopped passing altogether after the torrential downpour aside from a few -and-long situations.

And it doesn't matter really if your offense scores 70 points when your defense gives up 92 yards (33 of those coming on a 4th quarter drive).
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: FootballMan on September 25, 2005, 11:22:25 pm
I really dont understand what everyone is talking about.  If any of you were at the LC/BU game would know lakeland is one of the top teams in this conference.  For you people say that the game was even some-what close is dumb.  LC score TD's on their first 3 possesion and i feild goal on their fourth.  Its was 24 zero before BU knew what hit them......if it wasnt for the hour and a half rain delay this would have been a repeat of last year....BU did not have a chance in that game, from the opening kickoff to the final horn.  For god sakes BU only had 92 total yards...that spell domination to me. Now the Big question we need to ask is what happen to the supposely might MAC......they got killed and people picked them to contend for the title........lets think about that!!!!   
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: footballfan05 on September 26, 2005, 12:54:43 am
you cnat blame the fact that lakeland didnt score from the time they kicked that field goal until about 10 minutes left in the fourth quarter on a rain delay, if the delay was that bog of the factor than wouldnt it have done the same for the BU defense, but it is true that lakelands d dominated the game that is simply a fact that cant be argued, but i think the question is that if BU's defense could stop the lakeland O 8 times in a row (only 1 of them on a dropped pass) what will happen when they play better teams with better defenses such as conc wisc
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Southfan on September 26, 2005, 10:15:35 am
I think that were all missing a big piece of the puzzle here with the BU discussion and that is the administration!  The don't give a **** about football and that is evident when they don't hire a football coach for 5 months.  Football is not a priority at BU.  It's not a enrollment booster or a money maker.  Like some one else said before the new athletic complex is being built by Lilse so the high school can play there and so on...  It doesn't matter who comes into that job, we could get Larry Kerhes or Lloyd Carr, they would still lose at BU because there is no support from the administration.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: FootballMan on September 26, 2005, 10:21:39 am
footballFan

it sounds like you are a BU fan or player so i think the question you need to be asking is what BU is going to do versus a defense like CUW.......I hate to pull stats from the LC/UW-WW game b/c they killed LC in final stats.....but LC did gain 353 total yards on one of the best defense in the country 300 coming in the first half.....so i believe LC did show they can move the ball on a good defense, I cant say the same for BU......and yes a hour and a half rain delay can cause a slowage in anyones offense.  Those kids were ready to play at the beginning of that game and the rain delay put a damper on that whole game.....if it wasnt for that rain delay BU would have no way to stop the momentum LC had in the first and second Qtrs., it was a run away train.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: footballfan05 on September 26, 2005, 12:14:11 pm
valid point football man but BU did stop the momentum of lakeland before the rain delay forcing a field goal and a 3 and out before the rains came. The BU defense def had some momentum going into the rain delay even though they came out of the gates flat but that is no excuse for them. So even though lakeland was rolling in the first quarter it was not the same in the second. And im not raging on lakeland they are def the team to beat in the conference i was trying to see if anyone had any comments on how they will perform against conc wisc i was not trying to say they wont perform.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: aufb05 on September 26, 2005, 12:54:03 pm
So much for Lakeland and BU.

Since Cur(W) and Mac don't post current game stats on their web sites does anyone know why that game was so lopsided (59-19)? Either Cur(W) has become "that" good or MAC has been grossly overrated this season or plagued with injuries. That game wasn't even competitive. :-\
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: d3fballfan on September 26, 2005, 02:57:44 pm
D3Douchebag (Somebody)....you don't know dick.  You're just some 20 year old BU student who pours over D3 stats and thinks he has the world by the balls.  OK we get it, BU is bad.  However, you're cynical posts about folding the program are those of a nieve little college kid who doesn't know what it takes to play football or run a program.  Posting like that makes you look like an ass.  Try telling some players to their faces that their school should fold its program.  Yeah, that's what I thought.  If a school I made a committment to folded its program I'd be really upset.  You also make false assumptions about the coaching staff's previous coaching careers...again you have no clue because you are just a student.

Why the negativity?  Have you ever played a down of football bro? You act like D3 is D1.  Aside from players, former players, parents, students/faculty at D3 schools, not many other folks pay attention to it.  I like it because I like to watch live college football on fall sat. afternoons and there are a lot of D3 schools that offer that for cheap.  It is what it is so I'm sorry BU won't have a winning season before you graduate.

BU's injuries are going to have an effect because of the lack of depth from poor recruiting in past years and no recruiting till march of last year.  Carthage sucked in the 90's and look at them today.  It takes time to build...and you can't count the past few years as re-building.  Douche, you can go on and on, but you can't expect much this year from underclassmen and a new system.

Now go back to mommy's basement and download some more porn to take the edge off your narrow view ya loser.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: TBaggins on September 26, 2005, 03:33:27 pm
d3football fan has it all wrong, the douche is clearly an angry father with an axe to grind because his pimple faced son wasn't recruited at BU and was forced to take a job removing dog crap for the village of Lisle instead--hence the insider info on Lisle and the stadium financing. I know this is an old topic hardly worth commenting on--and that I apologize for--but I just can't sit idle while this ninny keeps running his yap. Listen tubby, you think BU sucks, that's fine but that hardly provides any semblance of an intelligent argument about shutting down the program (and I love how you keep using the same argument as a justification--boo hoo they suck so they should fold). If I follow your logic I should be at the corner of Clark and Addison calling for the Cubs to fold up their organization because guess what, they suck too and they've sucked for a long time. I want to give you the benefit of the doubt and assume that you understand that this is the nature of sports. There are always teams that struggle for an extended period of time before turning things around--Tampa Bay Bucaneers, Carthage, etc.  So clearly yours is a personal beef but don't worry, little Timmy will be bumped up to top scooper any day now so you won't have to have any hard feelings toward BU anymore.  Now, I'm not a BU player, coach, friend, student...and I don't even live anywhere near Lisle. I've only taken the time to tell you all of this for 2 reasons.  Number 1 is that I really can't stand idiotic postings, and unfortunatley my pudgy friend, yours is just that.  Number 2 is that I feel sorry for you and want to help you work through some of your misery. I can ask around for you to see if anyone knows of a good shrink specializing in your rare disorder of idiotus douchebagus.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Gomer Pyle on September 26, 2005, 04:21:26 pm
So much for Lakeland and BU.

Since Cur(W) and Mac don't post current game stats on their web sites does anyone know why that game was so lopsided (59-19)? Either Cur(W) has become "that" good or MAC has been grossly overrated this season or plagued with injuries. That game wasn't even competitive. :-\

 Check "game results" on the Con,W football site.
  As you say it doesn`t give the stats but there is a verbal break down of the game.
  The way it was written it looks like Mac had little or no "D" as Concordia had 500 yds of offense.  No running game to speak of as both of Mac`s TD`s came on passes. Mac does have a really good running back in Ereg but with out "stats" there is no way to tell how he did.
  You mention ......over-rated. Perhaps. Put another way it was probably wishful thinking.
  Mac does not have the personnel to beat or up-set
  the top teams in the IBFC. That being said, i look for them to be in 4th place when the season finishes. IMO.  
  You ask "has Concordia,W become that good?"
   Even money says they will take it all.  IMO.
   We`ll know for sure after the big 3 ( Lakeland,
   Aurora and Con,W) play and we see whose left standing. There might just be a surprise there.
   Operative word here is....... might.
  One other thought, how about the posters letting BU up for air!  Those boys have to live that night-mare. What`s the point in bashing their program,
   the coach, what ever? So what if they happen to be the worst(maybe) team in the IBC. One thing
  you know for sure is they show up every saturday
  and play!! They know there`re going to get
   pummeled but they still show up. My hats off to those players. Just some comments.
    
  
  
  

  
  
  
  
  
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Gomer Pyle on September 26, 2005, 04:29:16 pm
 TBaggins:
   You said in part,"..............little Timmie will be bumped up to TOP Scooper any day now.........."
   Cold..............................but funny!! LOL.
 
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: D3Somebody on September 26, 2005, 05:33:37 pm
D3Douchebag (Somebody)....you don't know dick.  You're just some 20 year old BU student who pours over D3 stats and thinks he has the world by the balls.  OK we get it, BU is bad.  However, you're cynical posts about folding the program are those of a nieve little college kid who doesn't know what it takes to play football or run a program.  Posting like that makes you look like an ass.  Try telling some players to their faces that their school should fold its program.  Yeah, that's what I thought.  If a school I made a committment to folded its program I'd be really upset.  You also make false assumptions about the coaching staff's previous coaching careers...again you have no clue because you are just a student.

Why the negativity?  Have you ever played a down of football bro? You act like D3 is D1.  Aside from players, former players, parents, students/faculty at D3 schools, not many other folks pay attention to it.  I like it because I like to watch live college football on fall sat. afternoons and there are a lot of D3 schools that offer that for cheap.  It is what it is so I'm sorry BU won't have a winning season before you graduate.

BU's injuries are going to have an effect because of the lack of depth from poor recruiting in past years and no recruiting till march of last year.  Carthage sucked in the 90's and look at them today.  It takes time to build...and you can't count the past few years as re-building.  Douche, you can go on and on, but you can't expect much this year from underclassmen and a new system.

Now go back to mommy's basement and download some more porn to take the edge off your narrow view ya loser.

Let’s just say I know a little bit. You talk about assumptions, why would you assume I’m a 20 year old BU student?

My posts about BU folding the program stems from the lack of commitment of the administration, the lopsided losses, and the bad coaching selections to name a few. And…well…I know a bit about what it takes to play football. I’d be willing to bet I know a bit more than you too.

Anything I’ve said about previous coaching careers is true. Tell me what is false about my comments…was the fact that I said Cooper was an assistant for 19 years and never offered a promotion at AU who supposedly loved him a lie? Tell me…

And I don’t act like D3 is D1…as a matter of fact I stated that in my other posts. In D1, teams getting blown out year after year is accepted…because well, it’s D1. In Division 3, it shouldn’t happen. These are players who were too small and too slow to play D1. They all have something in common. And if you love going to D3 games….that is great for you….a purple heart for your efforts.

Don’t make any excuses for BU and its injuries. Are they the only team that is hurting right now? No. That’s football.

And how long can a team rebuild for? Is BU going on year number 5 or 6? And coach number 3 or 4? Yes…they are.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: D3Somebody on September 26, 2005, 05:38:48 pm
d3football fan has it all wrong, the douche is clearly an angry father with an axe to grind because his pimple faced son wasn't recruited at BU and was forced to take a job removing dog crap for the village of Lisle instead--hence the insider info on Lisle and the stadium financing. I know this is an old topic hardly worth commenting on--and that I apologize for--but I just can't sit idle while this ninny keeps running his yap. Listen tubby, you think BU sucks, that's fine but that hardly provides any semblance of an intelligent argument about shutting down the program (and I love how you keep using the same argument as a justification--boo hoo they suck so they should fold). If I follow your logic I should be at the corner of Clark and Addison calling for the Cubs to fold up their organization because guess what, they suck too and they've sucked for a long time. I want to give you the benefit of the doubt and assume that you understand that this is the nature of sports. There are always teams that struggle for an extended period of time before turning things around--Tampa Bay Bucaneers, Carthage, etc.  So clearly yours is a personal beef but don't worry, little Timmy will be bumped up to top scooper any day now so you won't have to have any hard feelings toward BU anymore.  Now, I'm not a BU player, coach, friend, student...and I don't even live anywhere near Lisle. I've only taken the time to tell you all of this for 2 reasons.  Number 1 is that I really can't stand idiotic postings, and unfortunatley my pudgy friend, yours is just that.  Number 2 is that I feel sorry for you and want to help you work through some of your misery. I can ask around for you to see if anyone knows of a good shrink specializing in your rare disorder of idiotus douchebagus.

I really hope you were not trying to be funny with your first sentence…because it was a very poor attempt at humor. You lose. Try again.

On to the rest of your post…how can you compare the Chicago Cubs with BU? The Cubs folding? With the amount of money they bring in? What an idiotic comparison from an obviously idiotic person.

If you can’t stand my postings, which are the truth….nobody is forcing you to read them. And if you are from Benedictine…and I’m thinking you may be on the football team and/or a student there….good luck the rest of the season. Conc Wisc and Mac are just waiting…but then again so is CURF and Eureka.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: TBaggins on September 26, 2005, 06:15:11 pm
Oh Fat Pongo (aka "D3Somebody") how quickly you betray yourself with every posting, and how quickly the weather changes in your neighborhood. Welcome back, we've missed you so!
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: aufb05 on September 26, 2005, 08:04:07 pm
I'm with you bags -

Welcome back Pongo - crashing and burning as usual. Not from BEN - ya right!! AU owns a piece of you know (Coop) & there ain't nothingn you can do about - but whine.  ;D
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Big_Uns on September 26, 2005, 08:43:58 pm
On to the rest of your post…how can you compare the Chicago Cubs with BU? The Cubs folding? With the amount of money they bring in? What an idiotic comparison from an obviously idiotic person.


Well if in fact we CAN compare the Cubs to BU, it will only take about 80 more years of futility and then the program will start having fans and bring money in.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: D3Somebody on September 26, 2005, 09:04:53 pm
Professor Pongo I am not. Correct me if I'm wrong(which i'm not), he was the one saying BU was going to contend and that they had an All-American QB coming....but from what I know/heard, the BU QB has a QB rating less than Coach Cooper's age.

Moving on....Tbags and AU...did either of you have a response to my posts, or was that it because you were proven wrong?
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Pat Coleman on September 26, 2005, 09:35:47 pm
Professor Pongo I am not.

That's odd, because you use the same computer.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: D3Somebody on September 26, 2005, 09:46:54 pm
All of Benedictine is on the same server...hence the same IP address. Thousands of people every day use the server :) I definitely do not use the same computer as him...because this is my laptop  ;)

Say what you will though...and try to rev up this board by comparing me with the Professor, who once again, I am not. Though....I am still waiting for the other two to comment on my posts...
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: aufb05 on September 26, 2005, 10:53:13 pm
"Run down my team? I have no association with Benedictine

Well spoken D3 Somebody A.K.A. "Fat  Pongo" who uses a BEN computor (the same one as Fat Pongo uses) but has no association with BEN College, but uses every waking moment to run down the BEN football program because he got past over for a coaching position by a AU Coach. So lets get ugly, right PONGO and dish the players, the fans, the college and the folks who post on this board.

You got to love this guy. So PONGO are you really Fat, or does the adjective just refer to the skin between your nose and chin?
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: D3Somebody on September 26, 2005, 11:18:03 pm
"Run down my team? I have no association with Benedictine

Well spoken D3 Somebody A.K.A. "Fat  Pongo" who uses a BEN computor (the same one as Fat Pongo uses) but has no association with BEN College, but uses every waking moment to run down the BEN football program because he got past over for a coaching position by a AU Coach. So lets get ugly, right PONGO and dish the players, the fans, the college and the folks who post on this board.

You got to love this guy. So PONGO are you really Fat, or does the adjective just refer to the skin between your nose and chin?

I'm a bit confused here. If I have no association with the Benedictine Football Team, then why would I not be able to post from Benedictine? Explain that for me...

Passed over for a coaching position? No, my friend...certainly not....although at this point the coaching staff could use some help....

You can call me Pongo all you want...but the fact that two people post from the same server does not make them the same person...and we aren't. And again...how exactly is Fat Pongo using my personal computer? You obviously know nothing about IP adresses or servers...but then...you went to Aurora...and you people have trouble spelling words correctly.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: SaintsFAN on September 27, 2005, 12:19:56 am
And I don’t act like D3 is D1…as a matter of fact I stated that in my other posts. In D1, teams getting blown out year after year is accepted…because well, it’s D1. In Division 3, it shouldn’t happen. These are players who were too small and too slow to play D1. They all have something in common. And if you love going to D3 games….that is great for you….a purple heart for your efforts.

Regardless of who you are, this statement is just plum dumb.  So no teams should be blown out because they are D3?  I am definitely not following that.  Inferior teams compete at all levels.  Just because the D3 players lack something D1 players might have, it doesn't mean all players at this level have equal ability.  Obviously, you never played one down of college football...

Pongo, your tune may have changed (from supporting BU), but the way you relay messages here is the same.  Everyone has caught onto the fact you make personal attacks while correcting every post here---and mentioning how much football knowledge you pretend to have....

Nobody here is dumb enough not to make this connection...

Congratulations on your new laptop.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: D3Somebody on September 27, 2005, 12:32:47 am
And I don’t act like D3 is D1…as a matter of fact I stated that in my other posts. In D1, teams getting blown out year after year is accepted…because well, it’s D1. In Division 3, it shouldn’t happen. These are players who were too small and too slow to play D1. They all have something in common. And if you love going to D3 games….that is great for you….a purple heart for your efforts.

Regardless of who you are, this statement is just plum dumb.  So no teams should be blown out because they are D3?  I am definitely not following that.  Inferior teams compete at all levels.  Just because the D3 players lack something D1 players might have, it doesn't mean all players at this level have equal ability.  Obviously, you never played one down of college football...

Pongo, your tune may have changed (from supporting BU), but the way you relay messages here is the same.  Everyone has caught onto the fact you make personal attacks while correcting every post here---and mentioning how much football knowledge you pretend to have....

Nobody here is dumb enough not to make this connection...

Congratulations on your new laptop.

How is the statement dumb? Not once did I say teams shouldn't get blown out. But year after year? In D1...schools have a much bigger football budget....teams sell tickets and make money even when they are terrible....but they are still D1...and they still make money on apparel, tickets, etc. In D3...losing schools don't make money off of football. They lose money. So why keep a team that is consistently losing and a team that administration does not help anyways? I don't see the point. Also, D1 football isn't supposed to be fun...it's about money. D3 football is supposed to be fun. How is fun getting blown out every week? Explain that to me.

Saints, you can say I am Pongo as much as you would like...but at least prove some of your points for me when I argue with you...don't use this "Pongo" nonsense as a blanket to hide under when you are called out. K?
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Pat Coleman on September 27, 2005, 01:07:18 am
D3somebody and Pongo are the only people to have posted from that IP address in the past month. You tell me. It's very possible that they are two separate people and the only ones who have posted from Benedictine -- on BOTH football and hoops -- in the past month. But it's not cut and dried.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Mr. Ypsi on September 27, 2005, 01:15:17 am
D3S,

Even a majority of d1 schools LOSE money on football; I doubt ANY d3 schools make money (with the POSSIBLE exception of Mt Union and a handful of others).  Unless you are at one of the BIG TIME (i.e., semi-pro) schools, you'd BETTER be in it for the fun.  And fun does NOT require winning (though it helps!).

My son was by far the best player on his first-year lacrosse team (2nd worst team in Michigan, so that's not bragging TOO much!); that, of course, made him a 'marked man', and he came home injured after nearly every game (all but 3 or which they lost) - he had a BLAST!!  (He knew that most of his teammates could not even pass or catch a ball, but they TRIED, and he had FUN!)

On the other hand, he is also captain of the soccer team (a sport Ypsi has 'supported' for many years) - while their record is much better than the LAX team, he comes home muttering that he 'hates the team'.  The difference?  The soccer team has the talent to succeed, but many players just don't give a damn.  He'll take desire and effort over 'talent' anyday, and I say 'right on, David!'

With both sports, winning would be awfully nice, but it is NOT the defining difference.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: D3Somebody on September 27, 2005, 01:37:02 am
D3somebody and Pongo are the only people to have posted from that IP address in the past month. You tell me. It's very possible that they are two separate people and the only ones who have posted from Benedictine -- on BOTH football and hoops -- in the past month. But it's not cut and dried.

I must hand it to you Pat Coleman, you are a whiz at the computer. The fact that you can look up random members IP adresses when they have done nothing is quite impressive. You should see if Bill Gates is hiring...hell...or see if he needs a replacement.

You're forgetting one thing. Benedictine is on the same IP. So anyone who posts from BU is going to have the same one. Keep that in mind before you go accusing people of being someone else.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: D3Somebody on September 27, 2005, 01:39:40 am
D3S,

Even a majority of d1 schools LOSE money on football; I doubt ANY d3 schools make money (with the POSSIBLE exception of Mt Union and a handful of others).  Unless you are at one of the BIG TIME (i.e., semi-pro) schools, you'd BETTER be in it for the fun.  And fun does NOT require winning (though it helps!).

My son was by far the best player on his first-year lacrosse team (2nd worst team in Michigan, so that's not bragging TOO much!); that, of course, made him a 'marked man', and he came home injured after nearly every game (all but 3 or which they lost) - he had a BLAST!!  (He knew that most of his teammates could not even pass or catch a ball, but they TRIED, and he had FUN!)

On the other hand, he is also captain of the soccer team (a sport Ypsi has 'supported' for many years) - while their record is much better than the LAX team, he comes home muttering that he 'hates the team'.  The difference?  The soccer team has the talent to succeed, but many players just don't give a damn.  He'll take desire and effort over 'talent' anyday, and I say 'right on, David!'

With both sports, winning would be awfully nice, but it is NOT the defining difference.

Mr Ypsi...you're talking about  a first yer lacrosse team though. This team is 100 years old. I've played some sports in my day...and you can still have fun when you lose. I can't imagine having fun while losing by an average of 30+ points per game. How can that be fun?
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Mr. Ypsi on September 27, 2005, 02:16:16 am
Overall LAX scores: they lost by 8 to <3.

He had a BLAST!

Winning is NOT everything.  (David is VERY competitive - he would prefer having teammates that produce wins!  But he will take less talented teammates who honestly try, over more talented teammates who 'go through the motions' anytime - I think I raised a very wise son!)

It's true that it is only 1 year so far, but I appreciate the attitude (unlike his usual attitude, being a teenage male!); enjoyment comes from pay-offs other than the final score.  If you respect your teammates, you can 'have fun' even if you lose every game in a total blow-out.  Did you 'respect the game' - yes, you're a winner, regardless of the score; no, you're a loser even if you 'won'.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Pat Coleman on September 27, 2005, 02:31:14 am
I did note that, somebody. Keep that in mind before you accuse somebody of not reading.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: SaintsFAN on September 27, 2005, 07:47:50 am
OK d3somebody,

Prove my points?  I don't see how I could get through to you. 

Why do I not think you can see the light?  Lets look at what you've said:

*You think that successful D3 schools are money makers??  Its not true...

*You think D3 schools should all be competitive because D3 players were not good enough to get into D1 schools

In D1, teams getting blown out year after year is accepted…because well, it’s D1. In Division 3, it shouldn’t happen.

At the D3 level, the kids do play for fun, you are right.  Maybe the kids at BU are having fun getting to play football even though they are losing games....I've played on crappy teams when I played and to a man everyone on those teams will tell you that we had a great time because we were competing with our close buddies.  I won't say winning and losing didn't matter, but it definitely didn't make us wish we weren't playing ball.

and you did say teams shouldn't get blown out in d3, which is completely assinine. 


Its ok though...keep attacking Pat Coleman and we won't have to read your posts much longer.  What is that about Bill Gates?

I don't really give a **** if you are Pongo or not, you've still been acting like a jackass on this board.  Your posts remind everyone of Pongo.....that is something I'd be embarrassed about.  Your antics here have worn thin on everyone.....When Pat Coleman responds, you should know you are on thin ice.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: aufb05 on September 27, 2005, 08:58:31 am
BOARD-

This loser needs attention and we are feeding that need.

Ignore his posts and he dries up. How about it?

I still would like anyone out there to tell me what happened at the Cur(W) MAC game.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: redman04 on September 27, 2005, 09:19:23 am
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I must hand it to you Pat Coleman, you are a whiz at the computer. The fact that you can look up random members IP adresses when they have done nothing is quite impressive. You should see if Bill Gates is hiring...hell...or see if he needs a replacement..
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You should maybe show a little respect for the man that gave us this great sight to post on.  Pat has done a tremendous job in supporting D3 athletics and should be commended on what he has done for d3 football with this sight alone.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: FalconsFootball on September 27, 2005, 09:31:21 am
Ereg rushed for around 53 yards and other than two big pass plays the falcons defense pretty much shut down Mac.  I think one problem is Mac spends more time conditioning their mouths rather than their bodies. Concordia ran circles around them and some players were puking at half time. Ereg is a good back but Concordia did not allow him to get going.  Same old stingy D. I don't mean to talk trash about Mac but after seeing some of my teamates getting punched and clawed on routine plays at the bottom of piles I am a lot less aprehensive.  Look out for #64 OT becuase he is such garbage ( I know after playing against him the last couple years and seeing his behavior). It is pretty sad that a senior should have to play as dirty as he does to make up for his lack of ability.  

I also agree with ignoring D3Somebody.  That could be the most annoying, childish person alive.  Shut up!  Ben players work as hard ( probably harder due to a lack of #'s) as anyone else in D3. We are here cause we love the game and as long as smaller schools provide the opportunity there will be players to fill the rosters.  They are having a really tough time, but there is no need to kick them while their down.  That being said this topic shoudl be dropped all together and D3(insert derogatory name here) should be ignored so he can get a life somwhere else.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: FalconsFootball on September 27, 2005, 09:32:37 am
I could not have said it better myself Redman04
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: TBaggins on September 27, 2005, 09:34:54 am
AUFB is correct, Pongo (d3nobody) loves the attention so if we stop responding to his ridiculous posts he'll have to go back to downloading porn in his mommy's basement, as d3football fan so correctly noted. Let's hear it for our benevolent administrator who helped clear up Pongo's worst kept secret. Thanks Pat and keep up the good work!
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: mac_5_seven on September 27, 2005, 09:50:07 am
Mac must be a bunch of real class act these days.  First they decide that they need to run through the Wooster band.  Then after the beatin' they took by them, they decide that they need to run their mouths while playing a clearly weaker team at Tri State and now how they acted last week last week.  Embarrasing......
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Big_Uns on September 27, 2005, 11:40:19 am
How dumb is it to say that D3 can't compare to D1? I mean, first of all, a lot of D1 talent drops to D3 because of whatever reason, which means there are some pretty damned good players around, some that could eventually have pro ability.

Second of all, look at some of the results of some of these games. Rowan beat 1AA Robert Morris. Sure, the majority of the talent goes to D1, but there is no way you can give D3 the short end of the stick because there are some pretty good players at this level. That really makes these teams a lot of fun to watch, and their games are a hell of a lot more accessible than D1 games.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: aufb05 on September 27, 2005, 03:17:05 pm
Falcsfb-

Thanks for the update on Con(W) v MAC. how come your SID doesn't do summaries or stats?
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: aufb05 on September 27, 2005, 03:57:00 pm
Interesting NCAA Ranking Stats for Con(W) v AU (10/1/05)

Total Offense            CON - 84
Total Defense            AU - 106
Rushing Offense         CON - 22
Rushing Defense         CON - 83
Passing Offense         AU - 147
Passing Efficiency D    AU - 56
Scoring Offense         CON - 40
Scoring Defense         AU - 126
Turnover Margin         AU - 70
Special Teams           CON - 55 (avg.)
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: mac07 on September 27, 2005, 04:54:58 pm
I was at the Wooster game and I don't recall when Mac ran through their band. When did this happen?
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Big_Uns on September 27, 2005, 07:33:36 pm
Interesting NCAA Ranking Stats for Con(W) v AU (10/1/05)

Total Offense            CON - 84
Total Defense            AU - 106
Rushing Offense         CON - 22
Rushing Defense         CON - 83
Passing Offense         AU - 147
Passing Efficiency D    AU - 56
Scoring Offense         CON - 40
Scoring Defense         AU - 126
Turnover Margin         AU - 70
Special Teams           CON - 55 (avg.)

So the team that's featured with each respective stat is ahead of the other team I'm guessing? Meaning Concordia's offense is ranked higher than Aurora's?
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Southfan on September 27, 2005, 11:26:38 pm
I'm not trying to be a dick AUFB05 but i don't understand your last post.  Are you saying that CON's O is going to be up against a tough D or what?  Seriously, I'm just confused.  I think it's going to be a good game regardless of stats.  Both teams always play hard.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Gomer Pyle on September 28, 2005, 09:30:21 am
 The football season is at the mid way point for some and most of the teams in the IBC are already out of the running.
  There are only (3) teams, Aurora, Con, W and
   Lakeland still in the fray and that will change this
 Sat, 10/1 as Aurora and Con,W play. Most years
(1) loss in conference play and your out of contention. That, to me, shows little parity in the conference. Last year was the exception though.
   Here`s how i see this sat shaking out:
    (1) Greenville.....Benedictine: Both teams looking for their first conference win. BU has been tourched pretty bad in their games and i don`t see any change this sat.  As a "football game" pitting 2 winless  teams it should be fun to watch. These guys will just line up and play.
  Greenville gets the "W".
   (2) Eureka.....Lakeland: Unfortunately for Eureka
   Lakeland has something to prove. That being they can play a game with out distractions and still run up the score.Their coach will turn the horses loss this sat........could be brutial. Lakeland was to strong for Bu and they will be to strong for Eureka.
  Lakeland gets the "W"
  (3) MacMurray......Con,Ill: What can you say?
     Con,Ill is winless in the IBC and Mac got hammered last week by Con,W.  Mac  got 2TD`s via the pass but gave up a ton of yards as their "D"
   disappeared. I`m sure the coach will work on his defense but your only as good as you`ve got.
   They have a really good R/B in P. Ereg but if the "O"line doesn`t help him out a little or put another way, if this is a team sport, where is the "O" line?
   Mac`s QB is no slouch either. the boy can play
   but again with out "some" help from the O-line
    the plays can`t/ don`t even get started.
   None of the above problems will come into play
   this sat as Mac is to much for Con,Ill.
    MacMurray gets the "W".
  (4) Aurora.....Concordia,W:  Forget last year. 
   This is a very important game for these teams.
    Loser goes home! By that i mean for the most part  the loser is just about finished as far as the championship goes. Back to that," one and done"
  thing.
  Aurora always seems to have good players  as does CW. Both prgrams have been fairly stable
  over the last few years ( coaching change noted)
  CW leveled Mac last week which says something about their "O" and "D".
   As these teams represent (2) of the big (3) teams in the IBC playing each other i`d say the winner has a leg up on the Conference title.
  I know Lakeland is still in the mix and could well
  change the overall out come but my comments are for this sat only.
  This will be a good game and maybe not as close as you would think.
   Concordia,W  gets the "W".
   As i have no stake in any team/school my comments are un-biased.
   
 
   
 
 
 
   

   
 

     
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: aufb05 on September 28, 2005, 10:11:45 am
Interesting Gomer-

Greens D is much stronger than it has been in the past years but nonetheless BEN will show that they can play FB, the tangible may be Greens starting QB who was hurt in last weeks game against AU. BEN gets the W

Eureka is doing some nice things but is no competition for LAKE. LAKE gets the W

I have no idea why MAC didn't give Con(W) a game. Their results were embrassing. MAC will take last weeks fustrations out on CON's little brother CON(IL). MAC gets the W

GAME OF THE SEASON - Without stats it is hard to guage Con(W) but they were certainly impressive last week. Their NCAA rankings seem to give them an edge. AU has the talent but seems to be struggling out of the gate. If they are going to pull it off their 1st & 2nd QTR stats will have to change.  AU has gone to the air and their QB knows how to thread the needle.  Con has put MAC away now it needs to do the same to AU leaving LAKE as the only game left to play for a real title. This is the first the first in the series for AU. I don't think AU will let their season end Saturday. Close game AU by 3
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Big_Uns on September 28, 2005, 12:08:20 pm
Greenville over Benedictine

Lakeland over Eureka

MacMurray over Concordia (Ill.)

and

I'm going to give Aurora the benefit of the doubt that the CUW/Mac game was a fluke, even though the final was just atrocious, but I still think CUW is the better team.

Concordia (Wis.) over Aurora
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: mac_5_seven on September 28, 2005, 12:10:25 pm
Mac07,

Heard ot from a couple of different people.  Hope it's not true...  Off subject, I wonder why homecoming is so late this year.  Any thoughts?

Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: FalconsFootball on September 28, 2005, 02:11:16 pm
Aufb05-

       There should be a summary of the game up. If it isn't on the site then look at the score on d3football i know its there.  As far as stats go I'm not sure.  Also what is up with the Concordia Aurora stats? I don't quite follow.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: aufb05 on September 28, 2005, 06:40:44 pm
FALCSFB-

They are the current NCAA rankings for D3 on the different elements of FB by team and by player. I thought they where interesting stats that can give another perspective when trying to secound guess an outcome. They can be found on the NCAA web.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: FalconsFootball on September 28, 2005, 09:57:35 pm
Thanks for the clarification.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Gomer Pyle on September 29, 2005, 09:28:41 am
 Has anyone looked at the MacMurray Football
  web-site?  It`s a disaster!  Nobody is minding the store.
   They still show "Wooster" as the game of the week. What`s up with that?
  No stats what so ever. NONE!
   The team picture is of the 2004 team.
   The current roster(2005) is correct but they have
     it listed as the 2004 team.
  Plus when the previous SID quit so did the web-casting of their football games. 
    There is more but you get the picture.
    The "new" SID must be overwhelmed  as
    nothing is getting done. Mac looks like it has already moved to the SLAC. 
   It`s football season and this is, in some cases,
    the only way out- of- state parents can keep track of what`s going on.  Put in different terms......
    This is MICKEY MOUSE!! 
   To the current SID i would say, If your getting paid to do the job.........get-er done.
 
     
   
 
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: aufb05 on September 29, 2005, 11:24:02 am
Gomer-

When it comes to stats Con(W) site falls into the same hole as MAC.

Talk about sites what happened to the "Official" IBFC web-site? When it was up and running it was Mickey Mouse. I'm just a fan but your right - I can only wonder what the players parents think.

If it wasn't for Pat Coleman & Company D3 would be almost non-existent.   
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: aufb05 on September 29, 2005, 11:31:04 am
http://www.illinibadger.org/

Just found it. IBFC "new and improved"
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Pat Coleman on September 29, 2005, 11:38:42 am
Tricky, aufb05. That's the one we link to from our standings page, after all. :)

http://www.d3football.com/conference_info.php?conf=IBC
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Gomer Pyle on September 29, 2005, 12:11:45 pm
Gomer-

When it comes to stats Con(W) site falls into the same hole as MAC.

Talk about sites what happened to the "Official" IBFC web-site? When it was up and running it was Mickey Mouse. I'm just a fan but your right - I can only wonder what the players parents think.

If it wasn't for Pat Coleman & Company D3 would be almost non-existent.   
 AUFb05:
   This Div-3 website is what brings all these D3 schools to the fore front as far as  public awareness goes, just look at the "visitors" numbers on their home page. Your comments are so noted.
   As for the IBFC web-site: New or old it always starts out like a house on fire then after a bit: old stats, old news, it just seems to run out of gas.
   Earlier sites looked like they were designed by some middle-schooler. The current one has the look of an up-grade but seems to be falling into the same: don`t have time, nobody sent me stats,
  the computer guy is sick or it`s just to much to keep up. 
   I certainly appreciate the efforts of who ever is
   behind the IBFC site but if you take on the job,
   keep it current or fold it . I`d rather see that than
   let it become an out-dated source of information.
    Last year the site was pretty good(all year long)
    What happened ??
    
  
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: falcon on September 30, 2005, 05:09:28 pm
Sorry I have been so late and absent in recent time... Looks like CUW had 2 tough games against Big Schools.  But I thought someone said Mac was better than their 2002 team... doesn't look like that from what CUW did to them?

Thoughts about who is going to win the conference, or who does ever win the conference how much of a chance do they have against a playoff team...


Good Luck to the teams this year.!
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: gc_fan on October 01, 2005, 03:17:34 pm
At the Half - Greenville 28 - Ben 13
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: gc_fan on October 01, 2005, 04:05:36 pm
at the end of 3 - Greenville 28 - Ben 21
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: gc_fan on October 01, 2005, 04:48:46 pm
Final Score - Greenville 34 - Benedictine 33
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: falcon on October 01, 2005, 06:58:01 pm
Looks like that was a good game, almost as good as the Michigan/MSpU game
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: aufb05 on October 02, 2005, 12:28:08 am
Just read Cur(w) release - It wasn't quite accurate

AU lost the game on a kick off return fumble deep in CUR territory which resulted in a CUR score. CUR should thank the FB Gods for the win and tell their SID not to write smack. CUR is a one dimensonal running team with no QB to speak of. AU put themselves away - Lakeland will have no problem putting them (CUR) away. Still can't figure out what happen at the MAC game. CUR is good but nowhere near impressive, but what do I know I'm just a fan.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Gomer Pyle on October 02, 2005, 06:58:52 am
 Games went as expected. Next couple of weeks that will change though.
  Best game: Greenville and Bu. 
  Lakeland beats up on another weak team.
  Mac wins. Not much to say on that one.
  Concordia,W and Aurora: CW did what they had to do and beat Aurora.
  Strange things can happen in the next few weeks but the LC vs CW should be for all the marbles.
   
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: FalconsFootball on October 02, 2005, 01:34:28 pm


AU lost the game on a kick off return fumble deep in CUR territory which resulted in a CUR score. CUR should thank the FB Gods for the win CUR is a one dimensonal running team with no QB to speak of. AU put themselves away - Lakeland will have no problem putting them (CUR) away.  CUR is good but nowhere near impressive, but what do I know I'm just a fan.
Quote

What about AU's first score on a blocked punt? Or two pass interferance calls that were bogus (one on fourth down to keep the drive alive along with a dropped pass supposedly caught) ? Or a personal foul late hit on the quaterback when he dove into a defender trying to get the first down? Or the 4th and goal from the 1 foot line when a false start was called, even the the play was on sound (I'm not sure how that works)? I don't want to take anythign away from AU but the score was not indicative of how the game really was.  CUW shut AU down exept for two plays. AU (like a good team does) capitalized but CUW left a lot of points on the field. 

Thats ok we will take 375 yards rushing and stay one dimensional.  How about three guys with over 100 yards rushing. Sounds like domination to me.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: fishguy on October 02, 2005, 01:44:06 pm
Some LC players told me the eureka coaches were crying after they got smashed by Lakeland that Lakeland had no class. Lakeland played every QB on its roster - and Eureka could not stop any of them. So Eureka, what is Lakeland supposed to do? Ask its players to take a knee because you can't tackle anyone? Boy that would make your players feel better, right? And Eureka, how about trying to run something that resembles on offense so you can spend just a few minutes in the opponent's territory? I don't blame the Eureka players - they are coached so poorly. When after the game you have to cry like that, instead of challenging your players to get better, it's a sign of very poor leadership.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: aufb05 on October 02, 2005, 05:44:41 pm
falcsfb-

I quess we all saw the game differently- you, me and the Refs. The point I was trying to make is that Cur(w) can't beat Lakeland with its present offense.

Unless AU takes Lake at the end and creates another '04 - Lake wins conference and represents. Our game went to the wire - we throw, you run - Lake does both.

Cur(w) Lake and AU are dying in this conference. As much the IBC has given us these teams the opporunity to play musical conference leaders - it hasn't given them the opportunity to get better. They need to play teams like themselves each week. I thought the game was good, the reviews slanted and it's a pity it will take another year before they meet again. 
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: fishguy on October 02, 2005, 07:11:56 pm
Boy you said it aufb - the balance of this league just kills the decent teams. Aurora took steps forward to that first IBFC playoff win last season, and hopefully someone can break through this season. That's not to pretend that LC, CUW and AU are nationally contenders - but programs like CURF and Eureka are among the worst in the nation, and pounding them week after week each doesn't help anyone. The switch to the Lake Michigan Conf can't come soon enough. Unfortunately it's still two seasons away after this year.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Big_Uns on October 03, 2005, 12:25:57 pm
Unfortunately I don't think that's going to help much. I'm not sure if it's exactly a huge step going from Eureka to WLC and Maranatha.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: aufb05 on October 03, 2005, 12:50:34 pm
Who else makes up the rest of the conference?
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Gomer Pyle on October 03, 2005, 01:31:30 pm
 The IBFC has no parity. Like i said before ," one and done".  Meaning one loss and your season is
  over............most of the time.
  After every game there is a rush to get the would-
  a, should-a, could-a, weather related, refs were "homers", reasons why a certain team lost .
  As far as i can tell it`s still who has the most points at the end of the 4th qt. OT included.
  It makes for good reading but that`s about it.
  Maybe blaming the loss on the above reasons
  feels better.
  The winner gets the "W" and the loser gets to
   lament about the would-a, could-a theory.
   One school in particular uses the " Theory" win or lose. Go figure.
   Picks for this saturdays games will be up on wednesday. So far i think i`m right at 100%. Not gloating by any means as all the games played out as expected.  Here`s a good spot for the, One and done thing or the no parity thing. IMO.
  Just some thoughts, as usual not ment to ruffle
  any feathers.
  
    
 
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: aufb05 on October 03, 2005, 02:40:51 pm
Gomer-

Lake over MAC - Can't imagine this being close. Lake wants this conference all by themselves.

AU over BEN - Coaching will be interesting. Some new AU numbers might be seen due to injuries. AU has gone through three TB trying to develop a running game. Wonder who will get the call this week.

Con(W) over Con(I) - Blow out of the week. Con(W) running game may break IBFC rushing records this week or they might try to establish a passing game. My bet is on the rushing record.

Green over Eureka - GRN defense will dominate the bottom IBFC four for the rest of the season.

and its only Monday.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Gomer Pyle on October 03, 2005, 03:39:34 pm
auFBo5:  Now what am i going to do?
   Your "picks" are so noted. 
   This week will be easy by that i mean no biggies
   playing each other.
   Wednesday is the day for my picks. Maybe a
   commentary of sorts.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: aufb05 on October 03, 2005, 03:56:26 pm
Gomer-

Don't you wish they made BEN pay Mondays (in their new stadium) under the lights. It sure would break up the week.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Gomer Pyle on October 03, 2005, 04:26:41 pm
Gomer-

Don't you wish they made BEN pay Mondays (in their new stadium) under the lights. It sure would break up the week.

 Is  that a  municpal stadium and or Bu`s only?
   I thought i saw somebody on here mentioned that.  Just wondering.
   If they have lights (for night games) makes you wonder why they don`t. 
   Win or lose , people like night football games.
   Here`s another thought as to why not, in direct
   competition with HS games. Most HS`s charge
    for tickets to help their athletic  programs.  I`m talking saturday night`s here.
    Forget mondays. that`s a recover day after the week-end.
   
 
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: footballfan05 on October 03, 2005, 08:13:37 pm
Gomer,
    Ben did have 2 night games this year against carthage and elmhurst and they have two games at 3 oclock but it is probably hard to get teams such as LC, Greenville, MacMurray, Eureka to schedule night games because these teams dont have the money to stay an extra night in a hotel and most coaches would proally like to be home on late sat night than sunday afternoon. Plus i doubt the players from these schools would appreciate an all night bus ride after a game.  But you are right night games are def better.  I'm suprised they arent playing AU at night.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Big_Uns on October 04, 2005, 02:27:56 am
I couldn't agree more with the night games. Went down to Lakeland and Carthage and not only saw a great game but it was under the lights too. Can't ask for much more than that.

If you got lights, I'd milk it for all it's worth if I were you.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: D3Somebody on October 04, 2005, 06:14:00 pm
Benedictine does not play under the lights much because it is not their decision. In fact, they do not have first priority. The Village of Lisle owns the field...and they decide who plays. Lisle High School has first priority.

By the way, why has Benedictine not updated their stats in 3 weeks on their website?
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: aufb05 on October 04, 2005, 06:56:20 pm
D3Nobody-

We thought you got lost. Nice to hear from you again. I know the Mayor of Lisle - you won't mind if I verify your post, will you?
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: D3Somebody on October 04, 2005, 11:24:19 pm
You are so clever with your nicknames...D3Nobody... ::)

I know Joe also...verify my post? It's a fact...what...did you think Benedictine owned the field? But again...we know that you know it all... ;)
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: baseman201 on October 04, 2005, 11:50:18 pm
I would like to comment on the CURF Mac matchup this past week.  I live near CURF (and also thinking about going to school there), so I decided to attend a game or two this year.  It was 14-14 halfway through the 3rd quarter before Mac started to pull away, I thought CURF was actually going to pull it out for awhile there.  14-7 before halftime with a chance to go up 21-7, they played well

It was ashame that Mac pulled away on two huge plays, I thought CURF may pull an upset for 3 quarters there. 

Anyhow, I agree that next week could be an ugly game, maybe 60-70 points being put up on CURF, CUW will probably win conference in my opinion........but then get slaughtered by 30-40 points in the playoffs of course, don't forget about my prediction.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: fsufan on October 05, 2005, 12:28:24 am
BASEMAN201--Since you have an interest in CURF maybe you can tell me what their plans are when the IBC breaks up.  I am sure they will keep playing, but where? :)
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Gomer Pyle on October 05, 2005, 08:17:02 am
 The games on Oct 8th will be game 6 for some and at this point in time nothing earth shaking has happened.  Weak teams getting blasted by the upper echelon teams is the norm. Again this shows there is no parity in the IBFC. 5 teams with (1) win in conference play. (2) still looking for a "W".
  The schedule this week will not change the standings to any great degree as there will be no
 surprises. IMO, the best game this week will be
  Greenville vs Eureka. Both are 1 and1 in conference play meaning a win by either team would put them in a tie for second place With
  Aurora who, by the way, will take BU. If i`m wrong i`m sure you will re-educate me.
   So my picks for this weeks(10/8) are :


    (1)  Lakeland over Mac.  Mac will get blasted as
      lakeland needs to show they can "beat-up" on
      a better than average team. Look at last year, Mac had a pretty good team but got hammered .
      This years team (Mac) hasn`t shown much as they are 1-1 in conference play.
    (2) Aurora vs Benedictine:  This looks to be a train wreck for BU.  With out a conference win
   and Au coming off what some thought was a "we was robbed" game last week, AU will roll. Give the players at BU their props though as they show up and play!
   (3) Con,W vs Con,Ill:  What can you say? CW is tied for the conference lead, playing good football
   and could be .........could be on top at the end of the season.
   Concordia,Ill is 0-2 in conference play and headed south. They are some what like Bu in that they come to play but just don`t have (enough) good players to really compete with most of the IBC teams. Coaching changes,bad weather,etc so noted.
  (4) Greenville vs Eureka: Both are 1-1 in conference play and one will be tied for 2nd in the IBC after the game.........for a while anyway.
   This is a "pick-m" game as they are about even.
   Looks to be a really good D-3 game. No body is going to run up the score but just play and have fun.
   My comments are not ment to ruffle any feathers.
   
   
   
   
     
     
 
   
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Gomer Pyle on October 05, 2005, 08:43:39 am
D3Somebody: You mentioned the lack of stats being posted at BU.  My guess, the schools SID
  is not doing his/her job.  If you look at the Mac football site you`ll se the same .........nothing.
  In fact they still have 2004 information still posted . Talk about a lame site. ]
   Some of the "bigger" named schools in D3 have some really sharp football sites. Well laid out,
  nice clear pictures and the most importantly  they are always kept current.  Mount Union just to name one.
  Lots of "viewers" look to these sites for information and i`m sure there are other reasons
 so you would think somebody,,,,,,,anybody would
  keep these sites up and current. Oops, i forgot, this is the IBFC.
  Anybody else want to chime in on the stat or SID issue?
 
 
 
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: aufb05 on October 05, 2005, 09:24:31 am
Gomer-

AU isn't big on pictures but it has the best IBFC stat site, a two deep roster would complete it.


D3Sombody-

"JOE" - that's rich, I'll pass it along.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: footballfan05 on October 05, 2005, 12:11:51 pm
D3somebody,
   If you are that informed you would know that although the sports complex is not owned by Benedictine it is run by the university and it is the univeristy that provides the staff among other things.  Lisle HS plays on friday nights and thus has no conflict with sat night games.  And the university does get top priority on the field, if lisle had top priority don't you think they would be practicing on the field everyday? So enough about BU not owning the field, it is a partnership with the city of lisle and if you were that informed you would know this information.  And this partnership is going to do a lot of great things for BU football and the university didn't even have to front the money for it. Sounds like a great deal for BU.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Big_Uns on October 05, 2005, 01:35:19 pm
Gomer,

Benedictine does not have a full-time SID. So they don't have anyone to do or not do his/her job. From what I understand they haven't had one for a while and are kind of scrambling to find someone on their staff who can take care of SID duties in their spare time while juggling their full-time responsibilities as well.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: wlcalum on October 05, 2005, 01:41:30 pm
How about a student to keep things up to date. You can't tell me students don't know how to use a computer.   :D
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Gomer Pyle on October 05, 2005, 03:32:45 pm
Big-uns, wlcalum:
   My idea is to have the computer dept of each school, with-in the IBC, handle the daily / weekly imput  of information ref what ever sport is on tap.
  Students who participate would receive credit
 towards their degrees or some kind of credit.
  Give them free reign to design/ lay out and cultivate it all year long. This would be a project rather than a "job." and as they would have something of themselfs invested i`m sure the
  finished product would be well done. Something that would make most schools proud.
  As it is now( just look at Mac`s site for one) is a
  joke! This is a college run/maintained site and it`s been totally forgotten! Shameful. It`s the schools obligation to maintain all their web-sites with-out question so why are there so many in dis-repair?
  That`s the question guys.
  wlcalum, you touched on it ...i just went a little further with it. This thing could be pasted on year after year and the product, with the infusion of new contributors, would have a life of it`s own.
  No more ...MICKEY MOUSE... but hey,have you seem the athletic site at so and so ? really nice.
 OOPS, I forgot again, this is the IBC.
 
 
 
   
     
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Big_Uns on October 05, 2005, 04:40:00 pm
You know, as long as we're on the subject...Who do you think handles that stuff the best? I know neither CUW nor Mac had the score of that game up until late Saturday night so I'm ruling them out.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Gomer Pyle on October 05, 2005, 05:36:58 pm
You know, as long as we're on the subject...Who do you think handles that stuff the best? I know neither CUW nor Mac had the score of that game up until late Saturday night so I'm ruling them out.

 Mac does not have the "first" score up yet.  I`ll
  tell you how bad Mac is. Their web-site still shows
  Wooster as the game of the week and that was week-1. How bad is that??
 As far as CUW goes at least they post stats on their site. They may be late but they getum up.
 So to answer your question it looks like CUW....
 Even the "new" IBFC site is sputtering in terns of
  posting in a timely manner. It`s a much better site by far but  i guess it`s still growing.
 
   

 
 


Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: D3Somebody on October 05, 2005, 10:15:17 pm
D3somebody,
   If you are that informed you would know that although the sports complex is not owned by Benedictine it is run by the university and it is the univeristy that provides the staff among other things.  Lisle HS plays on friday nights and thus has no conflict with sat night games.  And the university does get top priority on the field, if lisle had top priority don't you think they would be practicing on the field everyday? So enough about BU not owning the field, it is a partnership with the city of lisle and if you were that informed you would know this information.  And this partnership is going to do a lot of great things for BU football and the university didn't even have to front the money for it. Sounds like a great deal for BU.

I know that the sports complex is run by the University. Why would I say anything differently? Of course they run it...it is on their property. Who else would run it?

Again, the University does not have top priority. If that was the case, they would be playing all night games, which they aren't. Benedictine hosts other events during that time...high school soccer games, high school football games, playoff high school football games, semi-pro games, etc.

And no...why would Lisle need to practice on the field everyday? What would be the point of them taking a bus to practice everyday...even if it is down the block...when they have a field right outside of their school? What would be the point of that? Use your head...which you didn't do in your last post.

And I never said that it would not do great things for the University. Other people using the complex just gives BU a better name. People who know nothing about actually paid for the field ASSUME that Benedictine is just this great school who likes to host different events because they are great people. The truth is...the administration has no choice. They didn't pay for the field, therefore it is not their decision what goes on there.

Thank you for strengthening by case.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: footballfan05 on October 05, 2005, 11:20:56 pm
D3somebody
Carthage, 2 home games at night 2 during the day/ North Central, 3 home day games 2 night games(1 vs BU).  Both of these schools own their fields so can you explain why they dont play all night games for me? 
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Pat Coleman on October 05, 2005, 11:24:12 pm
It's been a few years since I lived in the Midwest but if I recall correctly, eventually it gets cold at night during the football season.  :)
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: D3Somebody on October 05, 2005, 11:50:13 pm
D3somebody
Carthage, 2 home games at night 2 during the day/ North Central, 3 home day games 2 night games(1 vs BU).  Both of these schools own their fields so can you explain why they dont play all night games for me? 

How would I be able to speak for North Central or Cartahge? And just because North Central or Carthage plays that amount, why would it be the same for Benedictine? Care to explain?

Benedictine...brand new football field....brand new sports complex....wouldn't you play more night games IF you could? I'd imagine so...
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: D3Somebody on October 05, 2005, 11:51:23 pm
It's been a few years since I lived in the Midwest but if I recall correctly, eventually it gets cold at night during the football season.  :)


And it's not cold during the day ???

Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Pat Coleman on October 05, 2005, 11:54:41 pm
It's colder at night, though, come on. Give me a break, there's no need to contradict everything everyone says.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: D3Somebody on October 06, 2005, 12:08:18 am
It's colder at night, though, come on. Give me a break, there's no need to contradict everything everyone says.

It's been a few years since I lived in the Midwest but if I recall correctly, eventually it gets cold at night during the football season.  :)

What would you call that then?

All I'm saying is that it's going to be cold at night or during the day during football season...and the fact that BU has games at 3:00 late in the season....well they really weren't thinking about the cold, were they?

Why am I even defending myself though....this is Football...if you can't play football in the cold then you shouldn't be playing football.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Pat Coleman on October 06, 2005, 12:12:31 am
Hmm, yeah, but it's not with the players in mind, it's with the hope that some people might actually go to the games!
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: aufb05 on October 06, 2005, 01:14:20 pm
Why respond to D3Nobody? This guy gets his jollies off gumming the BU administration/Coaches/Players. If he is such a hero, he should go save BU from whatever he thinks is wrong with it.

I got to tell you D3Nobody - you have serious problem and it isn't D3 football at BU. :-*
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: D3Somebody on October 06, 2005, 06:20:55 pm
Why respond to D3Nobody? This guy gets his jollies off gumming the BU administration/Coaches/Players. If he is such a hero, he should go save BU from whatever he thinks is wrong with it.

I got to tell you D3Nobody - you have serious problem and it isn't D3 football at BU. :-*

The son of God couldn't be a hero and save BU...but that's not the point.

How am I the one with the problem? Every post you have ever made here has never proven one point...what gives?
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Mr. Ypsi on October 06, 2005, 10:31:17 pm
D3S,

You didn't have a whole lot of credibility earlier, but if you can't understand the difference between October days and October nights for the (hoped for) fans in the stands, I'm starting to wonder about the quality of the admissions office at BU!   :o
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: fishguy on October 06, 2005, 10:44:00 pm
BASEMAN201--Since you have an interest in CURF maybe you can tell me what their plans are when the IBC breaks up.  I am sure they will keep playing, but where? :)
CURF is joining the new league being formed by the Lake Michigan Conference and the NIIC - that league will have football beginning in 2008 when the IBC disappears.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: D3Somebody on October 06, 2005, 10:57:14 pm
D3S,

You didn't have a whole lot of credibility earlier, but if you can't understand the difference between October days and October nights for the (hoped for) fans in the stands, I'm starting to wonder about the quality of the admissions office at BU!   :o

Since when are football games scheduled around the fans convenience? And is a difference of 30-40 fans really going to make a difference because of the weather? If people are fans...they are going to come to the game...if they aren't, they won't.

People questioning the starting time of games for the FANS sake at a Division 3 school...and you question my credibility  ::)
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: D3Somebody on October 06, 2005, 11:09:27 pm
D3Somebody: You mentioned the lack of stats being posted at BU.  My guess, the schools SID
  is not doing his/her job.  If you look at the Mac football site you`ll se the same .........nothing.
  In fact they still have 2004 information still posted . Talk about a lame site. ]
   Some of the "bigger" named schools in D3 have some really sharp football sites. Well laid out,
  nice clear pictures and the most importantly  they are always kept current.  Mount Union just to name one.
  Lots of "viewers" look to these sites for information and i`m sure there are other reasons
 so you would think somebody,,,,,,,anybody would
  keep these sites up and current. Oops, i forgot, this is the IBFC.
  Anybody else want to chime in on the stat or SID issue?
 

Gomer,

You can't blame the SID for this one.....EVERY fall sport for Benedictine is updated to their last game except football....soccer and volleyball play 2-3 games/week....that's much harder to keep track of than one football game.

I guess BU doesn't want the public knowing their football stats...because they haven't been updated since week two. Oh well...guess I'll just have to keep going to the other team's website who they played that week.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Mr. Ypsi on October 06, 2005, 11:27:24 pm
D3S,

If you're only talking a 30-40 fan difference between 60+ and sunny, vs. 40+ and dark, you have far greater problems than I can address.

Let's just say that with a day game you have a CHANCE of including casual fans; with a nite game you will get only the die-hard fans - if you really think that is only a difference of 30-40, I shudder for your your program.  (At any CCIW school I'd estimate that is a 500-1500 difference.)
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: D3Somebody on October 07, 2005, 12:42:29 am
D3S,

If you're only talking a 30-40 fan difference between 60+ and sunny, vs. 40+ and dark, you have far greater problems than I can address.

Let's just say that with a day game you have a CHANCE of including casual fans; with a nite game you will get only the die-hard fans - if you really think that is only a difference of 30-40, I shudder for your your program.  (At any CCIW school I'd estimate that is a 500-1500 difference.)

I have problems because the difference in fans at BU would only be 30-40 if the game was played in the day vs in the night?...I'm confused...that makes no sense. I would almost think that MORE fans would go to night games vs day games(i.e. volleyball, soccer, cross country day games). They would all be free to attend the night games. But who am I? You seem to know more than I do about Benedictine.

Shudder for the program all you want. We're not talking about the CCIW anyways. If you want to talk about that conference, I believe there is a board for it, right?
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Pat Coleman on October 07, 2005, 12:51:56 am
D3S,

Time to bag the belligerence crap. If you're just going to be a troll then you're not going to do it on our board.

Consider this an official warning.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: aufb05 on October 07, 2005, 09:39:48 am
Pat-

Thanks for finally lumping this guy.



Maddog-

Don't tell us the season got to intense for posting on the the board. What's your non-bias opinion on the upcoming Lake - CUW game.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Gomer Pyle on October 07, 2005, 11:15:05 am
Pat-

Thanks for finally lumping this guy.



Maddog-

Don't tell us the season got to intense for posting on the the board. What's your non-bias opinion on the upcoming Lake - CUW game.
 
 Let the guys play this weeks games first. See how things pan out.
  Plenty of time to discuss the CW vs LC game.
  Your right about one thing though, where is Maddog? I`m sure he has his reasons for not "posting" though.
  I hope all that "chest thumping" didn`t wear him out.  This isn`t  cut and run time it`s stand-up and deliver time.  Maddog, i`m calling you out. 
  Just messin with ya, put down the colt.

  D3Somebody: My comments ref:SID`s were related to the football site only.  Maybe my comments were a little blurry but that was my intention.
 
 
   
   
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: zorbadagreek on October 07, 2005, 11:28:52 am
No disrespect intended, but you Illini-badger guys are a bunch of whiners. No wonder the CCIW owns you. No need to respond I will be back posting on my own board, where football is the main topic not the weather or how lousy IBC is. Everyone in America already knows this. How bout talkin about what can be done to improve them!!
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: maddog8 on October 07, 2005, 01:02:11 pm
Just listening, as for CUW it will be a great game.  I just want to take it one game at a time. I will give my thoughts before next week if that is ok with you all. Interesting post going on. Good luck to IBFC teams.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: redman04 on October 07, 2005, 05:29:14 pm
BASEMAN201--Since you have an interest in CURF maybe you can tell me what their plans are when the IBC breaks up.  I am sure they will keep playing, but where? :)

I hadn't heard that the IB conference was going to be broken up, anybody know the "official" reason?  Where will the teams go or has it not been decided?
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Pat Coleman on October 07, 2005, 06:01:26 pm
The Northern Illinois-Iowa Conference is merging with the Lake Michigan Conference. A couple of schools aren't coming along. I don't have all the details handy.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: fishguy on October 07, 2005, 11:41:54 pm
BASEMAN201--Since you have an interest in CURF maybe you can tell me what their plans are when the IBC breaks up.  I am sure they will keep playing, but where? :)

I hadn't heard that the IB conference was going to be broken up, anybody know the "official" reason?  Where will the teams go or has it not been decided?

The merger begins next season for pretty much every sport, but due to some outstanding contracts football in this new league will not begin until 2008. Aurora, Benedictine, CURF, CUWI, Lakeland, Maranatha Baptist, Rockford, and Wisconsin Lutheran College will be the charter members in the new 8-team football league in 2008. It will be a much better league than the current IBFC.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Big_Uns on October 08, 2005, 10:49:52 am
It will be a much better league than the current IBFC.

Cross your fingers.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: D3Somebody on October 08, 2005, 05:00:54 pm
My last post was deleted by Officer Coleman...let's see if this one stays.

Middle of 4th...Aurora 18 BU 0

Correct me if i'm wrong....but was it aufb05 that said Aurora was going to have this "outstanding" running game and that Travis Paro or the other tailback was going to be the first D3 player in history to win the Heisman.

For an Aurora team that was supposed to be "good"...why can't they put up more than 18 points on the worst team in the conference?
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: gc_fan on October 08, 2005, 05:59:54 pm
Just got back from the Greenville vs. Eureka game.  Final score Greenville 49 - Eureka 0
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: mac07 on October 08, 2005, 09:08:36 pm
Just got back from Lakeland. What a no class team. I saw more personal fouls called than in a combination of the entire season.
The crap at the end when the teams lined up to shake hands just proves my point. What I saw today from the "Muskies" shows me they are not worthy of representing the conference in the playoffs. I understand now why Whitewater put the starters back in on them
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: aufb05 on October 08, 2005, 09:54:56 pm
D3Nobody - Keep running your mouth and maybe we won't have to listen to your nonsense anymore.

AU 25 - Ben 0

Congrats to Green's 49 -0 win over Eureka. I said weeks ago that Green wasn't the same team it was a year ago. MAC should pay attention to the films this week.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Gomer Pyle on October 09, 2005, 11:22:04 am
 Yesterdays games played out as predicted.
   The only game with any scoring was the Mac vs
   LC game. The rest were very one sided as indicated by the final scores. 
   This saturday, oct 15th, LC goes against Con,W
    in which should be the game that decides who
  really is top dog in the IBC. Aurora is still there but after just scoring 25 points on BU you have to wonder. Put another way, maybe BU is getting better.
 


   
 
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: thekid on October 09, 2005, 11:29:14 am
Just got back from Lakeland. What a no class team. I saw more personal fouls called than in a combination of the entire season.
The crap at the end when the teams lined up to shake hands just proves my point. What I saw today from the "Muskies" shows me they are not worthy of representing the conference in the playoffs. I understand now why Whitewater put the starters back in on them

SIGN OF THE APOCALYPSE:
Someone from MacMurray College saying a team has no class.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: mac07 on October 09, 2005, 12:11:35 pm
What clown are you? Have you been to a Mac game or do you just run your mouth. It was an outstanding game and a lot closer than the score suggests. There was no reason for the Muskies to become arrogant after the game. It just shows that they just can't win gracefully. Next week count the personal fouls, there will be more on Lakeland than the points they score against CUW.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: fishguy on October 09, 2005, 01:26:22 pm
What clown are you? Have you been to a Mac game or do you just run your mouth. It was an outstanding game and a lot closer than the score suggests. There was no reason for the Muskies to become arrogant after the game. It just shows that they just can't win gracefully. Next week count the personal fouls, there will be more on Lakeland than the points they score against CUW.

I happened to catch the game - Mac is the dirtiest team in this league, and has been for years. Everyone in the IBC knows that. Their players start running their mouth the moment they walk off the bus, and one of their linebackers ran his mouth the whole game. They got flagged for unsportsman-like when a Mac player pickedup up a muffed extra point and was show boating as he ran into the end zone (which was called back because of another Mac penalty!) Mac players took cheap shots after nearly every tackle! It's too bad that Mac's program has taken such a slide backwards - their fans should demand that their players carry themselves with more class, which would begin by dumping their current head coach, who is a real clown. Fans sitting in the stands could hear him yelling "Bullsh**" at the Lakeland bench from across the field. It will be a joy to be a league without this program.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: footballfan05 on October 09, 2005, 02:05:40 pm
AU did not have it easy vs. BU the score was only 6 nothing until the middle of the third quarter.  BU's defense did a great job until late in the game.  The game was def a lot closer than the score shows and anyone at the game knows it.  AU's experience showed late in the game when they made some big plays, their qb made some great throws and the receivers caught tough passes.  This was the first game in about 4 or 5 years that BU was actually in the game with AU. This game was def a lot closer than the score indicates, but as usual BU's offense couldn't come through when they needed it being stopped in the red zone multiple times.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: D3Somebody on October 09, 2005, 02:21:58 pm
D3Nobody - Keep running your mouth and maybe we won't have to listen to your nonsense anymore.

AU 25 - Ben 0

Congrats to Green's 49 -0 win over Eureka. I said weeks ago that Green wasn't the same team it was a year ago. MAC should pay attention to the films this week.

So I guess my post does hold true then since you had nothing to say about it....just making sure :)
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: aufb05 on October 09, 2005, 04:29:24 pm
FBFan05-

Your right BU was in it a lot more than AU wanted them to be. Even Nobody was right AU's running game is MIA. Aside from all that I love that stadium.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: uamusme on October 09, 2005, 05:20:38 pm
Ok, LC vs. Mac.

LC didn't wake up from the homecomming hangovers until the 3rd quarter. They really need to get their act together before CUW next weekend if they expect to have a shot to win conference

Mac has always been dirty, even back 4 years ago when I got to this conference. Late hits, punters taking dives (I must say the first punt after the roughing the kicker penalty should be nominated for an oscar it was so funny). Yes there were some penalties, like a combined 28ish for more than 250 yards, i don' have the exact stats in front of me now, just estimates.

Yes Lakeland has in the last 3 years since Z's takeover increased in penalties. Most of which are NOT personal fouls. Most are pass interference, while there are some personal fouls, they are usually the just missed the tip of the ball and nicked the punter, or an occasional late hit, but everyone does those. All of those penalties come from having an aggressive defense.

However Lakeland does not beg and argue with a ref for a penalty, like in the case of #9 and #57 from Mac. It seemed that that was all they could do to try and swing some momentum their way, do I blame them, not so much, because they were a little desperate to win against what has become a force here in the IBFC. They are were Mac was and wants to get to again. Mac just needs to cut the crap and out play teams, not out talk them.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Mr. Ypsi on October 09, 2005, 06:06:27 pm
Sorry to bring the NFL into this, but the topic of penalties makes it irresistible.

In today's Lions-Ravens game, Baltimore outgained Detroit by well-over 100 yards, yet was decisively beaten (I believe the final was 35-17).  The Ravens had only one more turnover than the Lions, so that wasn't it.  But the all-time NFL record for penalties in a game is 22; the Ravens had 21 by early in the 4th (they somehow avoided picking up the record)!  They also had two players ejected (going to be an expensive game for a lot of Ravens once the league office chimes in)!

If the refs are doing their job, dirty play (quite a few of the penalties were personal fouls of one sort or another) will be its own punishment.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: footballfan05 on October 09, 2005, 10:16:33 pm
AUFB05
 
 I have only seen the game vs BU but its different seeing AU having to rely on the pass to win the game.  I wonder what happened that they are no longer the same run the ball down your throat AU that everyone is used to.  There o-line didnt seem to be the same type of players as the years before, different attitudes at least.  But luckily for them right now they do have a QB that can win them games and good receivers to go with him.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: mac07 on October 10, 2005, 09:46:24 am
What clown are you? Have you been to a Mac game or do you just run your mouth. It was an outstanding game and a lot closer than the score suggests. There was no reason for the Muskies to become arrogant after the game. It just shows that they just can't win gracefully. Next week count the personal fouls, there will be more on Lakeland than the points they score against CUW.

I happened to catch the game - Mac is the dirtiest team in this league, and has been for years. Everyone in the IBC knows that. Their players start running their mouth the moment they walk off the bus, and one of their linebackers ran his mouth the whole game. They got flagged for unsportsman-like when a Mac player pickedup up a muffed extra point and was show boating as he ran into the end zone (which was called back because of another Mac penalty!) Mac players took cheap shots after nearly every tackle! It's too bad that Mac's program has taken such a slide backwards - their fans should demand that their players carry themselves with more class, which would begin by dumping their current head coach, who is a real clown. Fans sitting in the stands could hear him yelling "Bullsh**" at the Lakeland bench from across the field. It will be a joy to be a league without this program.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: mac07 on October 10, 2005, 09:57:54 am
I guess you were on Lakeland side of the field and with the wind blowing in your face you couldn't see the entire game. I will agree there are afew who run their mouths and that will happen on every team. I guess 57 took a dive when they blocked the punt in the end zone. Real nice acting job. I am talking about the crap after the game when the Muskies had to run there mouth and not be satisfied with a win. Then to show how big they are to start a fight  was real good. I commend the coaches for ther work. As for dumping their coach, I went to the Tri State game and am glad my son plays for who he does and not Fry. I hate getting into these war on words because I love to go and support those who play. I have friends whose kids play at other IBC schools and love to see them play. I will support them also. I think the war of words should stop and just keep supporting the players.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: aufb05 on October 10, 2005, 10:13:11 am
FBFan05-

I'm not sure what happen to the AU running game. Paro doesn't start (he's not even on the 2 deep chart). The starting TB (36) is also the backup FB. He seems to lack the 1st gear to get him to the line to follow his blocks. The No. 1 FB is a big kid with some speed but he rarely if ever gets a hand-off (last years FB started TB mid-season and was factor that almost beat Wooster in the PO). I noticed AUs QB limping on Saturday. Lakeland will be keying on him the whole game if AU does't establish a running game. The new Coach has a couple of safe weeks ahead of him before Lake to mix it up. It will be interesting.

On the other hand CUW has a similiar problem no passing game. It was good to see them working on it against CUR. Could be to little to late.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: fishguy on October 10, 2005, 03:09:20 pm
I guess you were on Lakeland side of the field and with the wind blowing in your face you couldn't see the entire game. I will agree there are afew who run their mouths and that will happen on every team. I guess 57 took a dive when they blocked the punt in the end zone. Real nice acting job. I am talking about the crap after the game when the Muskies had to run there mouth and not be satisfied with a win. Then to show how big they are to start a fight  was real good. I commend the coaches for ther work. As for dumping their coach, I went to the Tri State game and am glad my son plays for who he does and not Fry. I hate getting into these war on words because I love to go and support those who play. I have friends whose kids play at other IBC schools and love to see them play. I will support them also. I think the war of words should stop and just keep supporting the players.

Just so we all understand things here, the post-game fight started when a Mac player punched a LC player in the chest. So please don't come on here and make Lakeland out to be the bad guy. I don't want to fight on here either, but I'm not going to let someone bad mouth Lakeland kids when they don't deserve it. Their new coach has done wonders in terms of their players being respectful off the field and playing aggressive, fair football on the field. I wouldn't ask you not to support Mac's players, but I would ask you to put some pressure on that coach to clean up his act. It makes the whole league look bad.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: mac07 on October 10, 2005, 03:23:41 pm
And were you standing in the middle of the field?? It started with a lakeland player calling each player he passed a derogatory name. I don't think that is cleaned up. I will agree it came in retaliation and shouldn't happen but don't lay all the blame on MAC.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: fishguy on October 10, 2005, 08:24:59 pm
There were plenty of derogatory names thrown around that day from both sides. But no one from Lakeland threw a punch in response or tried to take people out on the field after the play. Mac's reputation might be the result of a few players making bad decisions, but no one will argue that right now the program has a really negative reputation. That's my last post on it - sorry to keeping this going. You're welcome to the final word if you wish.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Big_Uns on October 10, 2005, 11:00:37 pm
Both teams probably could've handled each other a little better and turned the other cheek. No matter what the other team is doing it's not a smart idea to retaliate for anything.

Anyway, that was two days ago. How about we look ahead to this week. I think every fan of the IBFC should be in Mequon on Saturday. Just doesn't get any better than that. I can't wait.

What are everyone else's thoughts on that game and the others going on this weekend?
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: footballfan05 on October 11, 2005, 01:38:35 am
not only should they have turned the other cheek, everyone who has ever played football knows that its the second person that gets caught everytime, no one notices the first act they always see the second though. 
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: aufb05 on October 11, 2005, 09:38:09 am
IBFC Games for 10/15- ::)

AU over CUR - No surprises here, but it gives AU another chance to figure out what happen to their running game and another week for their injuries to mend.

Greenville over MAC - Greenville has come to play this year, their D has been the most impressive. Not sure what has happen to MAC. They could very well finish in the bottom four, a L saturday may clinch that postion standing. 

BEN over Eureka - Cooper gets his first win as a head coach.

LAKE over CUW - Lake comes to play with a healthy D. Their O provides a good ground and passing game. LAKE is hungry! CUW is still stuck on a one-demensional running game. This won't be last week - no time to practice an air attack against a weak D. For LAKE it will be 2 down 1 to go.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: d3ftball1 on October 11, 2005, 01:32:06 pm
aufb05
this is this first time i have posted but i follow ibc all the time are you a  player, coach or fan. 
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Gomer Pyle on October 11, 2005, 01:55:57 pm
mac07: You said in part," i`m glad my son plays for who he does and not coach Fry."
  I was wondering if you would care to expound on that a little? 
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: aufb05 on October 11, 2005, 02:17:42 pm
d3ftball1-

To old to play, to old coach, never to old to watch. For more years than I care to mention I did a little of each. Best football ever (D3). Thanks for asking.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: d3ftball1 on October 11, 2005, 02:35:53 pm
aufb05

Thanks for your response. I was just wondering because you seem to have alot of knowledge about all the teams. I especially like your comments about Greenville. I'm alittle partial to the Panthers!  Your right d3 football is awesome.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: aufb05 on October 11, 2005, 07:21:13 pm
D3ftball-

The IBC is pretty typical, at least it has been in the last several years. Green was a pleasant surprise this season. I don't follow your players or coaches that much, but there was a hugh change in the D. You tell me. New Players? Coaching schemes? Whatever it was/is, it is good to see that football is alive and well in So. IL.

No harm intended but I thought your No. 2 QB does a  better job than the starter. The O seems to respond better to him. Anyway best wishes for the remainder of the season. 
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: gc_fan on October 11, 2005, 08:06:36 pm
aufb - Greenville has a new D-Coordinator this year, (was promoted from a regular assistant last year) other than that and the DB coach, the rest of the coaching staff is new this year.  Give them a little bit more time and their recruits and greenville should continue to develop a strong program.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: d3ftball1 on October 11, 2005, 08:28:36 pm
aufb05

Like gvfan said the new d coordinator and the d coach are the only two coachs from last season.  The d coach was offense last year and has moved to defense where he is doing a great job.  Player wise a year experience form last years recruits really helps and I don't think they lost alot of seniors. Im not a past player or past coach so that is just my opinion and its not based on any great "football knowledge".  I agree with gvfan I think with the recruits and present players Greenville will develope a strong program.
Someone said something about the ibc not being a conference and they listed some teams that were going into another conference. They didn't mention Greenville. Does anyone know what conference they will be in?
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Gomer Pyle on October 12, 2005, 07:39:04 am
  (1) BU vs Eureka: 2 teams going no where but will play as if they were. This will be a good game to watch as 
 
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Gomer Pyle on October 12, 2005, 08:09:50 am
 (1) Bu vs Eureka: 2 teams going no where but will play like they are. This will be a good game for the fans.
   Bu gets it`s first win of the season. They`ve been getting better  and now the hard work pays off.
 (2) Over the past few years Greenville has matched up with Mac pretty well. This season Greenville has 1 more conference win than Mac
 and come saturday afternoon that could be 2.
  As Mac is not in the running for anything they need to get a "W" this saturday. They`ve got a good QB. A solid RB but no "O" line. That being said
  i`m going with, it`s a "pick-um" game.
 (3) Aurora vs Con,Ill:  This will be a blow out. You hate to see Con,Ill get thumped every saturday but if you don`t have the horses that`s what happens.
  (4) Lakeland vs Concordia,W: Winner of this game  is in the drivers seat as far as the conference championship goes. Nothing earth shattering there.
  As this is a "home" game for CW i`m going with
  CW to get the "W".
 As usual come saturday afternoon we`ll all know for sure who got the "W" that counts.


 
 
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: falcon672003 on October 12, 2005, 12:33:43 pm
 Good luck to the CUW Falcons bring home the WIN and the cheese bowl trophy.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: maddog8 on October 12, 2005, 02:21:23 pm
Sat will be a great championship game. Goodluck to all IBFC teams this weekend.  Goooo Muskies bring home the CHEESE and TITLE.  Carthage and Whitewater should have prepared you for this special game you will face NO tougher opponent  then them. Focus, Focus.  You will HAVE to play MISTAKE FREE..
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Big_Uns on October 13, 2005, 10:11:27 am
Is David Benton's spot on this week's d3football.com Team of the Week the first player in the IBFC to receive that honor?
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: aufb05 on October 13, 2005, 11:11:13 am
Big Uns-

Yes, but I'm sure you already knew that. So what's the point?
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Big_Uns on October 13, 2005, 12:57:57 pm
Actually I didn't know the answer to that question. That's why I asked it.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Gomer Pyle on October 13, 2005, 01:50:44 pm
Is David Benton's spot on this week's d3football.com Team of the Week the first player in the IBFC to receive that honor?

 No............... WR #10 for MacMurray last year.  Week 4, 2004 season.
   He (#10) was also...... Conference Receiver of the Year (2004) for the IBFC. He graduated in the spring of 2005.
   May be others as well. Maybe.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Gomer Pyle on October 13, 2005, 02:16:55 pm
Is David Benton's spot on this week's d3football.com Team of the Week the first player in the IBFC to receive that honor?
 
 I made a mistake in the above post . The correct answer is still............no............. #10 from Mac made the Div-3 Team of the week...2 times in 2004.
 Week4 and week 11(games Nov12-13)
  I believe he is the only IBFC player to make it more than twice(2) since the IBFC was founded.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: aufb05 on October 13, 2005, 02:47:07 pm
Big Uns-

Gomer is right, my apologies. Actually, I thought you meant this yr. - I guess I didn't get the point.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: gc_fan on October 15, 2005, 02:34:01 pm
At the end of the 1st Quarter - Greenville 7 - MacMurray 0
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Post by: gc_fan on October 15, 2005, 03:15:18 pm
At the end of the first Half....Greenville 16 - MacMurray 0
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Post by: gc_fan on October 15, 2005, 03:46:42 pm
Total yards at the half - Greenville 231 - MacMurray 29
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Post by: Big_Uns on October 15, 2005, 04:14:50 pm
Anymore updates gc_fan?
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Post by: gc_fan on October 15, 2005, 04:15:20 pm
at the end of the 3rd quarter Greenville 16 - MacMurray 0
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Post by: Big_Uns on October 15, 2005, 04:30:13 pm
Score just went final in Mequon.

Lakeland - 17
CUW       - 14
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Post by: gc_fan on October 15, 2005, 04:36:27 pm
Greenville 23 - MacMurray 0 - with about 5 min. left in the game
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Post by: gc_fan on October 15, 2005, 04:59:22 pm
Final Score Greenville 23 - MacMurray 6
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Post by: Gomer Pyle on October 15, 2005, 05:31:09 pm
 Lakeland looks to be in the drivers seat. Nice win
  for their program.
  Greenville over Mac .  From what i`ve read from
  information posted, Greenville must have  taken it to Mac.
  Anybody with "first" hand stats or comments on the Mac vs Greenville game?
   
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Post by: aufb05 on October 15, 2005, 06:32:29 pm
GC-Fan-

Did I call it or what!! Nice win Green - welcome to IBFC's front 4. Next to Coach Cooper's 1st Coolege W. Next to Lake, see you in a couple weeks. Finally to AU, nice to see you back Paro.
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Post by: fishguy on October 15, 2005, 09:07:35 pm
Nice win for Lakeland on Saturday, especially being down 14-0 early. Lakeland's defense was very impressive the final three quarters - press releases from both schools said they held CUW to 40 yards in the second half, which is not easy. Lakeland still has a home game with Aurora and a road trip to Greenville to end the season, so as long as they don't play like they have already won the conference, the confernece title is theirs to win/lose.
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Post by: gc_fan on October 15, 2005, 09:21:23 pm
Gomer - I listened to the Greenville/MacMurray game on the radio.  I recall you posting in the middle of the week referring to Mac.... "They`ve got a good QB. A solid RB but no "O" line. That being said  i`m going with, it`s a "pick-um" game." - from what it sounded like, over the radio, the last part was true in that MacMurra had no "O" line and the Greenville defense took advantage of it.  I did not hear the final stats, but I do know that at half time, MacMurray had negative 27 rushing yards....... the MacMurray QB was under pressure all day resulting in several sacks etc. and the RB was tackled in the backfield quite a bit for losses.  The one MacMurray score was for 56 yards, and it was a result of the Greenville defender falling down.  It sounded like the Greenville offense showed up in that they had 231 yards of total offense in the first half and was pretty balanced, they had a few other drives that were "clicking" that stalled as a result of a couple of fumbles so the score could have been worse than what it was.
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Post by: gc_fan on October 15, 2005, 09:33:35 pm
aufb05 - Thanks..... I worked as a student manager for Greenville from '98-'01 seasons so it was fun to be around the team when we were respectable in the conference and so it is nice to see them on the rebound and start to be a contender.  As I said in a post earlier this week, a lot of the coaching staff is new this year and so this could be the beginning of something special in a few years once they get their players etc.  They host CUW next week for homecoming so it should be a good game to see how Greenville can match up against a top team in the conference. 
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Post by: Gomer Pyle on October 16, 2005, 08:12:00 am
gc_fan: Thanks for some back ground on the Mac
  vs Greenville game.  Greenville always played Mac well in the pass so it`s not a total surprise that GC
  got the "W".  Course i`m sure Mac would think other wise.
 
   
 
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: aufb05 on October 16, 2005, 10:36:51 am
GC_Fan-

I knew at the end of the GRN-AU game to GRN would would be force this year. I'm just happy its CUW and LAKE playing GRN at the end of the season and not AU. This certainly will be an interesting end to regular play. Think about it, two key wins and GRN could get the "C" and represent. Who would have thought. You got to love this game!!
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Post by: D3Somebody on October 16, 2005, 04:58:57 pm
And a big congratulations to Benedictine for beating the worst team in the conference and being cocky about it :)

Wait until Conc-Wisc d-lineman literally eat your runningbacks  :'(
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Post by: Mr. Ypsi on October 16, 2005, 07:23:03 pm
OMG, NOT literally (I hope) - I'm pretty sure that cannibalism is AT LEAST a 15-yard penalty!  (And there will probably be kids at the game...)  :o
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Post by: TBaggins on October 17, 2005, 12:15:43 pm
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And a big congratulations to Benedictine for beating the worst team in the conference and being cocky about it

Wait until Conc-Wisc d-lineman literally eat your runningbacks   


Awww, poor Pongo.  No one invited him to join at the lunch table and he had to eat alone.  It's ok honey, I'm sure your mom will comfort you and help you deal with your rejection. 
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Post by: aufb05 on October 17, 2005, 01:03:17 pm
Actually Pongo-

BEN and CUR have worse statistical records than Eureka.  :-*
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Post by: D3Somebody on October 17, 2005, 06:08:21 pm
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And a big congratulations to Benedictine for beating the worst team in the conference and being cocky about it

Wait until Conc-Wisc d-lineman literally eat your runningbacks   


Awww, poor Pongo.  No one invited him to join at the lunch table and he had to eat alone.  It's ok honey, I'm sure your mom will comfort you and help you deal with your rejection. 

You're pretty funny :)
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Post by: D3Somebody on October 17, 2005, 06:09:16 pm
Actually Pongo-

BEN and CUR have worse statistical records than Eureka.  :-*

Way to dig up that info....you are really good  :D
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Post by: baseman201 on October 18, 2005, 02:35:59 pm
Haha, well he didn't really have to "dig" up that info, it was pretty self explanatory that BEN and CURF are the worst teams in the conference.  But, BEN is the best 0-7 team I have ever seen.  They hung with Aurora till the 4th quarter, almost beat Greenville, beat Eureka.  They aren't as bad as most are assuming they are.

With BEN and CURF, when you have 30-40 players on the team, it's hard to find the talent that CUW or Lakeland has with 80 guys on the team.  Until BEN and CURF can get some recruits, and get up to 50 guys, then 60, then 70.  They will have 0-10, 1-9, 2-8 seasons for awhile to come.  Even Eureka could go 1-9 this year. (although I have been to Eureka, and the place is a dump.....no offense of course  :))  Once the winning starts, the recruits start coming in, or that's the way it's supposed to be. 

One problem for CURF, as well as BEN (maybe) could be the price of education.  D-III football players pretty much pay to play football, since there are no football scholarships given.  When it's almost $30,000/year to go to CURF, and possibly close to that for BEN, of course a player will want to go to a cheaper school........although CUW would be the same tuition since they are part of the Concordia system, and they are good................hmmmm, maybe guys have more telent in Wisconsin, or maybe it's just Chicago then.  yeah, no one likes Chicago, that has to be it,  ;)

And that would be amazing if Greenville won conference, good luck to you.  Although, of course they would get slaughtered in the first round, but hey, they would get a ring and a playoff berth.
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Post by: aufb05 on October 18, 2005, 02:37:54 pm
OK Gomer its Tuseday-

Here Goes,

AU over Eureka - Coach Duncan and his staff gave us a better look at what his team can do - and the fans loved it. We even got a good 4th quarter look at his  underclassmen.

LAKE over CUR - CUR does come to play but like Eureka a small roster hurts their efforts. 

CUW over GRN - I'm giving it to CUW on statistical advantage only. GRN's playing in front of the home town crowd and could pull off an upset.

BEN over MAC - This one is for you Pongo! BEN has had the toughest 1st half. Elmhurst, NCent., Carthage, LAKE, AU and yes GRN. Throw in home field advantage and Coop gets his 2nd W.

There you have sport fans.....
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Gomer Pyle on October 18, 2005, 02:55:24 pm
Aufb05:  Wednesday is my day. 
     
  Have you seen any official stats for the Greenville vs Mac game?  Anybody?
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Post by: aufb05 on October 18, 2005, 03:34:32 pm
Gomer-

Just the IBFC site through week 6
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Post by: gc_fan on October 18, 2005, 07:11:57 pm
Gomer - they have a link for the Greenville/MacMurray box score on the Greenville page, but the link is messed up.  I am friends with the Greenville SID so will alert him and see if he can fix it.
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Post by: D3Somebody on October 18, 2005, 07:22:10 pm
Haha, well he didn't really have to "dig" up that info, it was pretty self explanatory that BEN and CURF are the worst teams in the conference.  But, BEN is the best 0-7 team I have ever seen.  They hung with Aurora till the 4th quarter, almost beat Greenville, beat Eureka.  They aren't as bad as most are assuming they are.

With BEN and CURF, when you have 30-40 players on the team, it's hard to find the talent that CUW or Lakeland has with 80 guys on the team.  Until BEN and CURF can get some recruits, and get up to 50 guys, then 60, then 70.  They will have 0-10, 1-9, 2-8 seasons for awhile to come.  Even Eureka could go 1-9 this year. (although I have been to Eureka, and the place is a dump.....no offense of course  :))  Once the winning starts, the recruits start coming in, or that's the way it's supposed to be. 

One problem for CURF, as well as BEN (maybe) could be the price of education.  D-III football players pretty much pay to play football, since there are no football scholarships given.  When it's almost $30,000/year to go to CURF, and possibly close to that for BEN, of course a player will want to go to a cheaper school........although CUW would be the same tuition since they are part of the Concordia system, and they are good................hmmmm, maybe guys have more telent in Wisconsin, or maybe it's just Chicago then.  yeah, no one likes Chicago, that has to be it,  ;)

And that would be amazing if Greenville won conference, good luck to you.  Although, of course they would get slaughtered in the first round, but hey, they would get a ring and a playoff berth.

I forgot to ask, what's your number on Benedictine? If not, who's your best friend who goes there?

Also....don't ever compare football talent in Wisconsin and Chicago....EVER. Its not a wise idea...because they two aren't even close.

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Post by: D3Somebody on October 18, 2005, 07:23:21 pm
OK Gomer its Tuseday-
BEN over MAC - This one is for you Pongo! BEN has had the toughest 1st half. Elmhurst, NCent., Carthage, LAKE, AU and yes GRN. Throw in home field advantage and Coop gets his 2nd W.

There you have sport fans.....

Hmm...if a former Aurora coach was not the current coach at Benedictine....I bet your prediction would be switched :)
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Post by: gc_fan on October 18, 2005, 07:24:53 pm
Gomer - I just talked to the Greenville SID...... as of 6:23 p.m. central time on Tuesday the 18th, the Greenville/MacMurray boxscore link is now working....http://www.greenville.edu/athletics/football/results/2005/06g1015.htm
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Post by: Big_Uns on October 18, 2005, 08:56:16 pm
To anyone who can answer this-

After beating Benedictine by only one point, where did Greenville come from? I mean, SEVEN rushing yards allowed? That's downright scary, especially if you're a Concordia or Lakeland who still has to meet this team-on-the-rise.
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Post by: gc_fan on October 18, 2005, 10:45:43 pm
Big_Uns - with a new D coordinator and a new scheme (3-4) instead of 4-3 I'm sure it took some time to get adjusted, now that they have played some games together, they are starting to gel.
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Post by: Gomer Pyle on October 19, 2005, 07:29:26 am
Gomer - I just talked to the Greenville SID...... as of 6:23 p.m. central time on Tuesday the 18th, the Greenville/MacMurray boxscore link is now working....http://www.greenville.edu/athletics/football/results/2005/06g1015.htm

 gc_fan: Thanks for the link. looks like Greenville was way to much for Mac.  Plus they shut down the Mac running game.  Like i said," Mac has no "O" line." at least
  for run support. This is the last year for some of those "O" linemen so maybe next year the new guys will start a new era of protection. There`s always hope.
 
   
 
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Post by: Gomer Pyle on October 19, 2005, 07:53:38 am
Games for the week-end of Oct 22nd.
   (1)  AU vs Eureka:  AU will take this game with out a doubt. Eureka is always scrappy but that will not over come talent.
  (2) Lakeland vs Con,Ill: Another drubbing in the works. Lakeland will pad their stats but gain no respect but that`s football.
  (3) Con,W vs Greenville: CW is coming off a tough loss to LC and GC beat up on Mac.  I really don`t think Greenville can beat CW but  strange things can happen so i like Greenville for the up-set.
 (4) MacMurray vs BU: What happened to Mac?
   BU started like you would expect ( losing) but it looks like the hard work is starting to pay off.
   They could be "peeking" at the right time. Don`t forget that BU beat Mac in 2003, by the score of 15-13. I think that`s correct so why not again?
   In the "SPECIAL UP_SET" of the week, BU over Mac.
    As always saturday afternoon we`ll all know for sure who did what. 
 
 
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: aufb05 on October 19, 2005, 10:07:46 am
Pongo-

Even you have to admit that BEN has played a tough season to date. Given their other problems, small roster, new coaching staff, little fan support and you beating them up on the Boards - turning those kinds of distractions into a "W" (Eureka) shows there is a team left. MAC is going to find out that this Saturday. By the way we all know your a closet BEN fan, so why not show it. Kick ass this weekend my friend. 
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Post by: D3Somebody on October 19, 2005, 10:40:44 am
Pongo-

Even you have to admit that BEN has played a tough season to date. Given their other problems, small roster, new coaching staff, little fan support and you beating them up on the Boards - turning those kinds of distractions into a "W" (Eureka) shows there is a team left. MAC is going to find out that this Saturday. By the way we all know your a closet BEN fan, so why not show it. Kick ass this weekend my friend. 

I'm starting to think that you are a former aurora coach now on the BU staff. I like how you lay out the "excuses" (problems, roster size, new staff, fan support)...and then say that there is team left.

What do u mean by "problems?" Is there something you see on the inside that we don't?
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Post by: Big_Uns on October 19, 2005, 12:23:16 pm
Gc_fan,

Greenville must blitz the linebackers a lot on a 3-4 if they contained Mac to seven total rushing yards. As Gomer pointed out, Mac doesn't have much of an o-line, however. Is that going to prove to be a problem against Concordia this week or Lakeland in three weeks when they face huge o-lines that consistently put up 100 yards rushing against whoever they play?
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Post by: baseman201 on October 19, 2005, 12:37:17 pm
D3Somebody-

I do not play for BEN, nor do I have a friend that plays for them.  I am just a D-III football fan who pays attention to the IBFC. 

And which side are you going with, Wisconsin being better for football or Chicago??  I didn't quite understand where you were going with the whole, "don't compare wisconsin to Chicago football" stuff.

Yeah, no surprises for games this week I agree.  AU will take it to Eureka, CUW will beat Greenville (but maybe not a blowout), Mac will beat BU (again maybe not a blowout), and Lakeland will absolutely hand it to CURF (this game will not be pretty, possibly 70 being put up).

everyone have a great day
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: aufb05 on October 19, 2005, 02:37:05 pm
Sooooooooo Pongo-

What exactly r u getting at? Do u support BEN or not? ??? Will they "W" Saturday or not? ??? Did they played a tough schedule so far or not? ??? Does their small roster hurt them or not? ??? (This one is multiple choice) You a. Tried out for the BEN team and didn't make it b. Tried out for a BEN student and didn't make it. c. Tried out for a BEN fan and didn't make it. d. All of the above.  :-*
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Post by: TBaggins on October 19, 2005, 03:08:04 pm
or  e. I am just a BEN student who has never been talented enough to actually play sports myself so I live vicariously through the BEN football players (and when they lose it makes my sad life even sadder)  ;)
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Post by: TBaggins on October 19, 2005, 03:14:51 pm
Predictions for this week: This will be remembered as upset week

1. Eureka vs. AU--this will be closer than most think, but AU pulls it off
2. Mac vs. BU--BU surprises Mac
3. Greenville vs. CUW--upset of the week, Greenville wins
4. Lakeland vs. CURF--well, I just don't see an upset happening here, Lakeland wins
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: D3Somebody on October 19, 2005, 05:24:34 pm
D3Somebody-

I do not play for BEN, nor do I have a friend that plays for them.  I am just a D-III football fan who pays attention to the IBFC. 

And which side are you going with, Wisconsin being better for football or Chicago??  I didn't quite understand where you were going with the whole, "don't compare wisconsin to Chicago football" stuff.

I thought it was pretty clear that I was saying the Chicago football was better...but if it wasn't clear, that's what I am stating, as a fact. I hope I didn't misunderstand your post...and that was that you were acting as if Wisconsin football is superior to Illinois Football.
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Post by: D3Somebody on October 19, 2005, 05:30:20 pm
Sooooooooo Pongo-

What exactly r u getting at? Do u support BEN or not? ??? Will they "W" Saturday or not? ??? Did they played a tough schedule so far or not? ??? Does their small roster hurt them or not? ??? (This one is multiple choice) You a. Tried out for the BEN team and didn't make it b. Tried out for a BEN student and didn't make it. c. Tried out for a BEN fan and didn't make it. d. All of the above.  :-*

Of course they played a tough schedule so far....and they kept the games pretty close, right? And the points they scored against these teams were against their 2nd and 3rd string defenses, right? Now that that is cleared up.

Multiple choice for you:

A) You are on the Aurora coaching staff and coached with Cooper B) You were on the AU coaching staff, and moved to Bu with Cooper C) You have a son who plays for Aurora and he is a worse athlete than you were D) You played for Aurora(well sat)....degraded and tore down Benedictine Football until your former D-Coordinator got a job at BU, and then turned into a supporter E) All of the above
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: D3Somebody on October 19, 2005, 05:31:40 pm
or  e. I am just a BEN student who has never been talented enough to actually play sports myself so I live vicariously through the BEN football players (and when they lose it makes my sad life even sadder)  ;)

So are you on Benedictine's 1-6 team or do you just go to school there?
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Post by: disgracetofball on October 19, 2005, 08:28:41 pm
Who cares about who's winning in this conference? Nobody is ever going to win a playoff game.  Everyone should stop patting themselves or anyone else on the back.  "Good job guys you just be a team of paraplegics." How many games has this conference won in non-conference games, I would say MAYBE 5 since the conference started(and to all of you stat monkeys... go look it up I really do want to know).  This whole message board should be deleted
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: d3ftball1 on October 19, 2005, 10:32:42 pm
disgracetofootball just registered today at 8:08:27 I guess everyone knows who that is. Same garbage posts same person. You really do need to get a life!!!!  Actually people do care who is winning in this conference and the fact that they can say positive things about someone else's team is class....which you wouldn't understand.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: D3Somebody on October 20, 2005, 12:00:31 am
disgracetofootball just registered today at 8:08:27 I guess everyone knows who that is. Same garbage posts same person. You really do need to get a life!!!!  Actually people do care who is winning in this conference and the fact that they can say positive things about someone else's team is class....which you wouldn't understand.

Relax, I'm not him. But Yes! Let's assume because somebody registered today and tore down D3 football that it is me! I really wonder where some of you receive your education.

We know AUFB got his from Aurora....and we know the reputation of that school....such as taking NIU's dropouts, etc.

The fact that "they can say positive things about someone else's team is class" is crap...because you are directing this at what AUFB has said about Benedictine. Once again, the only reason AUFB cares about BU football is because he and Coach Cooper share some type of bond....whether that be them coaching now, before, or him being coached by Cooper.

I wish we could see the archives of aufb literally BASHING BU football....but only up until Cooper was hired....then he started to praise them. Coincidence? I think not.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: M*A*S*H* on October 20, 2005, 02:06:53 am
This is just a reply to how Greenville held MAC to negative 7-yds rushing. Do remember that their offensive line is pretty slow and unathletic. They should probably rearrange that line and get some guys who dont look like they are 400 lbs.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: aufb05 on October 20, 2005, 08:44:53 am
Pongo-

Actually I got my education at Northeastern.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: d3ftball1 on October 20, 2005, 10:27:36 am
I really never said who I was talking about so why do you assume its you d3s? And about the class issue there are more people that say positive things about other schools teams than aufb. It seems he also didn't get his degree from au so your post wasn't very accurate.  Is there a reason you have something against bu football?
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: D3Somebody on October 20, 2005, 11:00:06 am
Pongo-

Actually I got my education at Northeastern.

What a great school  :-[

So what is your connection with Cooper then....that is...if you really did go to Northwestern....wait....Northeastern  :D
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: D3Somebody on October 20, 2005, 11:04:01 am
I really never said who I was talking about so why do you assume its you d3s? And about the class issue there are more people that say positive things about other schools teams than aufb. It seems he also didn't get his degree from au so your post wasn't very accurate.  Is there a reason you have something against bu football?

I can make assumptions based on the way you write. There are not more people than AU tat say positive things about other schools. Most of you bash other schools....and until Cooper got the job at BU....everyone bashed BU. People have also bashed Lakeland and Mac not too long ago from their respective schools. I don't care what happened in that game, who fought with who, etc.....they are still bashing each other. So don't come on here and tell me people are saying positive things about other programs.

IF that post wasn't accurate, and he really did go to Northeastern, my other posts at his connection with Cooper are dead on....and I'm sure of that.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: d3ftball1 on October 20, 2005, 11:19:57 am
I stand corrected I do remember the Lackland and Mac posts now Sorry about that I guess I was the inaccurate one.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: aufb05 on October 20, 2005, 01:20:49 pm
Pongo-

I knew you were a closet fan. So r they going to this week or not? Laz Predictions think so.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: superstar on October 20, 2005, 02:33:38 pm
this guy is an ignorant piece of crap.  please block this bozo Pat.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Black Cat on October 20, 2005, 03:05:01 pm
i've read alot of you guys messages over the past year and i'm definitely shocked with the kind of program bashing you guys do on hear!  First and foremost until you've walked in these kid's shoes and shared time on the field, sweat and bleed with them you have no idea of what "today's football is all about"!!!!!!!!  It's also apparent that the majority of you and I "fondly" state, spent your supposed careers at this "level". 

(re:Team Rosters, recruiting
 By now, being "former" players or supporters you should have the common sense to realize that as the economy changes so does the respectful universities.    Yet, it's been found that the normal, "teenager" share the same characteristics,once they graduate they want to get out of state!!!!!!!  It's unfortunate for both "inner city"and "outskirts" programs because these kids want think about attending them but it'stoo close to home.  After a attending a school in Wisconsin or Iowa and etc  these same athletes return home.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: D3Somebody on October 20, 2005, 06:19:35 pm
Pongo-

I knew you were a closet fan. So r they going to this week or not? Laz Predictions think so.

You avoided the Northeastern comment....did I upset you...I'm sowwy  :'(
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: D3Somebody on October 20, 2005, 06:20:09 pm
this guy is an ignorant piece of crap.  please block this bozo Pat.

Sounds good Mr. 3 posts  ::)
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: D3Somebody on October 20, 2005, 06:20:39 pm
i've read alot of you guys messages over the past year and i'm definitely shocked with the kind of program bashing you guys do on hear!  First and foremost until you've walked in these kid's shoes and shared time on the field, sweat and bleed with them you have no idea of what "today's football is all about"!!!!!!!!  It's also apparent that the majority of you and I "fondly" state, spent your supposed careers at this "level". 

(re:Team Rosters, recruiting
 By now, being "former" players or supporters you should have the common sense to realize that as the economy changes so does the respectful universities.    Yet, it's been found that the normal, "teenager" share the same characteristics,once they graduate they want to get out of state!!!!!!!  It's unfortunate for both "inner city"and "outskirts" programs because these kids want think about attending them but it'stoo close to home.  After a attending a school in Wisconsin or Iowa and etc  these same athletes return home.

I don't think anyone understood that post. Try writing it in Chinese...maybe it will come out better.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: aufb05 on October 20, 2005, 07:03:10 pm
Pongo-

Na, you don't bother me. You make an uneventful day interesting. But all good things come to an end. You F----- up this Board enough, we're here to talk about football not respond to head cases.

This is my last post to anything you have to contibute and I would recommend the same to everyone else. We don't need Pat to make this kid go away - just don't respond to him.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: D3Somebody on October 20, 2005, 07:59:49 pm
Pongo-

Na, you don't bother me. You make an uneventful day interesting. But all good things come to an end. You F----- up this Board enough, we're here to talk about football not respond to head cases.

This is my last post to anything you have to contibute and I would recommend the same to everyone else. We don't need Pat to make this kid go away - just don't respond to him.

I do bother you....and it bothers you. How do I know? The second someone has to revert to vulgar language...then you know. I think you have called me immature in the past...seems like you are the immature one.

It appears I hit a soft spot ripping on your "scholarly" northeastern education....don't worry...you would've learned the same if not less at Aurora (well, probably the same).

If this is goodbye....then at least tell me your connection with coach Coop...wait....forget it....I already hit the nail on the head a few posts ago.

Good luck against Macmurray/or whoever Aurora plays....Coach AUFB05
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: disgracetofball on October 21, 2005, 01:10:01 pm
Call the Waaaambulance Superstar. Oh Pat please block him.  Did you tell on people at school too?  No wonder you have to post online about a sport you know nothing about.  I believe that a lot of high school teams can beat teams in this conference.  The intensity is weak(and starting fights like lakeland and au is not intensity its being an ahole) and  there is nothing but excuses. The conference simply CANNOT win non-conference games so how can anyone even argue about who's better? 
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: fishguy on October 21, 2005, 11:30:06 pm
so anyway, back to football ... i was looking at the schedule that's left - if Concordia wins at Greenville tomorrow, and Lakeland beats Concordia, Illinois, and Aurora, they will clinch the playoff spot with one week left to play. If Aurora can win at Lakeland, and CUW wins out, we'll be looking at a 3-team tie again, just like lasst season. I don't exactly recall the tiebreaker, although i know it had something to do with the margins of victory the three teams involved in the tie had against each other. Here's hoping it doesn't come to that - somebody just win this thing and let's final get an IBC win in the playoffs!

Any thoughts on a first-round opponet for the IBC champ? Maybe Augie or North Central, or maybe Monmouth?
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Pat Coleman on October 22, 2005, 12:42:08 am
Mount Union.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: aufb05 on October 22, 2005, 10:27:49 am
Fishguy-

AU must win the rest of their games and beat LAKE by more than 11 to share C and represent. If LAKE wins the rest of their games they win or share C (depending on what CUW does) and represent. If CUW wins the rest of their games they share C with LAKE or AU.

Pat-
Mount Union for real?
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Big_Uns on October 22, 2005, 11:48:08 am
Mt. Union was actually my guess as well. Whoever gets in from this conference is going to face the top team in the region. Basically the choice of Mt. Union, St. John's, or Whitewater.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Big_Uns on October 22, 2005, 12:00:32 pm
Aufb-

I'm wondering how you got 11...if I remember correctly with this margin of victory tiebreaker like last year, Aurora would have to beat LC by 10 or more I think.

Concordia beat Aurora by 6, lost to LC by 3, so their number is +3, that won't change anymore unless they get beat by Greenville today.

LC beat Concordia by 3, so their number heading into next week is +3.

Aurora's of course would be -6 as of the loss to Concordia. If they beat Lakeland by 9 there's a tie between Concordia and Aurora at +3 (LC would be at -6.)

If Aurora beats LC by 9, they would be in another tie at +3 with Concordia, and I'm not sure what the tiebreaker is after that, but if it reverts back to head-to-head, AU would then get the nod, so AU's magic number COULD be 9. Not sure though.

But I could be and often am wrong so if anyone else wants to confirm either one.

It's only 1 or 2 points, but if I'm Aurora, I'd rather see 9/10 than 11.

(Last year's was much more different, Aurora had a +17 heading into the LC game last year, Concordia had a +1 after beating LC by 18 and losing to AU by 17, and LC had -18 heading into the Aurora game, so LC needed to beat AU by 20 points, of course only won by one, thus giving AU the nod at +16.)

Either way, that's a lot of numbers, and my head hurts now.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: uamusme on October 22, 2005, 04:00:02 pm
Halftime of the Lakeland - CURF game ...

48-0 Lakeland

However there were 3 Lakeland turnovers in the first quarter, 2 fumbles on their first 2 drives.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: gc_fan on October 22, 2005, 05:49:59 pm
Just got back from the Greenville/ Concordia Wisconsin game, it was a hard fought, close game with Concordia winning by a score of 19 to 14. 
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: bufan on October 22, 2005, 09:13:02 pm
BU 49 MAC 22..they talked more **** than ne one while they were getting rammed without ne lube...sorry for the gross details but this team is the least classiest team in history.. i feel bad for the players on the team who are actually nice guys like 22...that is my first and last post in history of this website
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: baseman201 on October 22, 2005, 09:59:40 pm
"let's final get an IBC win in the playoffs!"

That was a quote from fishguy, Uhm, I hate to tell you but if Lakeland, or CUW plays St. Johns, Mt. Union, or Whitewater, the score could be as ugly as the Lakeland Vs. CURF score today.  I mean, the best team in our conference got beat by Whitewater 73-12 for goodness sakes. 

I don't think the IBFC will have a team win a playoff game for awhile to come, the talent just isn't there like the better D-III schools

I dont know how many times I have to repeat this, but I will again, whoever makes it to the playoffs WILL get beat by a margin of 30-40 points, that simple.

And congratulations to BU, awesome win.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: fishguy on October 22, 2005, 11:00:40 pm
baseman, i won't argue with you, all i'm saying is I would just love to see it finally happen. my guess is, there is a good chance the IBC will go winless in the playoffs, and perhaps the new league they are entering will have some success. the press release on the Lakeland website says if they beat Aurora next Saturday, they clinch the playoff berth. a Lakeland-Mt. Union matchup would be interesting because that is the Lakeland coach's alma mater - might be about the only interesting thing about that game. would we see another Lakeland-Whitewater game, or would the NCAA not do that because they already played this season?
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: aufb05 on October 23, 2005, 12:05:52 am
Big-uns-
AU's number is nine I don't know where I got 11.


Congrats to BEN for a well deserved W and to GRN for coming this far.


Baseman-
30-40 points? Not in your lifetime. The IBFC has come a long way, ask Wooster. This year will be the same. Mount Union will have to play football to win.   
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Pat Coleman on October 23, 2005, 01:18:40 am
BU 49 MAC 22..they talked more **** than ne one while they were getting rammed without ne lube...sorry for the gross details but this team is the least classiest team in history.. i feel bad for the players on the team who are actually nice guys like 22...that is my first and last post in history of this website

Well, I hope I can trust the score report because as usual, no report on this game anywhere else. Since the poster is a player, I would hope he knew what the score was.

Fishguy, they might avoid matching them back up but they are not required to try. They are only supposed to avoid rematching teams who played a conference game against each other.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Gomer Pyle on October 23, 2005, 08:10:30 am
 D3 scoreboard: BU-49         Mac-22.
   On my post of 10/19  i called for the "Up-set_Special" BU over Mac. 
  Give the coaching staff and players all the credit for this impressive win. Just goes to show what hard work will do for you.
   This is a back breaking loss for Mac. They`ve got one of the best RB`s in the conference plus a very good QB, but as i`ve said before it all starts up front.  Maybe Mac is looking ahead to playing in the SLAC where they think past "glories" will be re-lived.  Time will tell.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: baseman201 on October 23, 2005, 12:34:22 pm
Quote
"30-40 points? Not in your lifetime. The IBFC has come a long way, ask Wooster. This year will be the same. Mount Union will have to play football to win."

WHAAAAAT, you actually think Lakeland could hang with Mt. Union?????  I honestly want an answer to that.  After getting beat by 60 to a team Mt. Union could probably beat.  (Even though Mt. Union did just lose on Saturday).  Come on now, I love the IBFC and watching the teams play, but you gotta be realistic.  Sure, last year Aurora gave Wooster a great game, but Wooster was nothing compared to Mt. Union.  Last year Wooster had some blowouts, but they had alot of close games as well.  Mt. Union would just make Lakeland look silly if they played, just like Whitewater did.   But hey, I am not saying it's not possible for Lakeland to beat a Mt. Union, in fact, that would be an upset for the record books, but I just don't see it happening considering the track record of Mt. Union.....or St. John's, Whitewater, or whoever else they play.

Yeah, it's possible with the new league there would be some contenders for a playoff win, I really never thought about that, but we will have to wait and see when the league forms, and who the teams are.  Would the NCAA not matchup Lakeland and Whitewater again because it would be a blowout, or because they have already played??

Ok fine, you don't like 30-40 point spread for the playoffs, I will change it to make you happy...........they get beat by 25-35, there, that sounds good.   :)
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: aufb05 on October 23, 2005, 01:23:00 pm
Baseman-

I didn't say anyone would beat Mt. Union. I did say Mt. Union will have to play FB to win. If it is LAKE that will represent then consider this - any team can start flat. If LAKE beats AU by a soft margin or if AU wins but doesn't reach their number and LAKE represents, then LAKE may lose to Mt. Union but by no more than 17. If LAKE crushes AU the playoff margin decreases.

Personally, I think AU upsets LAKE. Regardless of next Saturdays outcome either team will make a statement for the IBFC, just like AU did last year - no blowouts regardless who plays. 

Gomer -
You called for BU to upset, I called for them to win.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Big_Uns on October 23, 2005, 01:25:30 pm
If Lakeland and Whitewater were to play in the playoffs, I think it's safe to say we won't see another 73-12 game. Lakeland's playing some of the best football they can play. With such a young defense, a lot of those guys were only playing in their third game as collegians when Whitewater came to town. Can you believe that with a defense made up mostly of underclassmen they're still holding teams like Concordia to 200 yards? The offense is coming together too, using their third and fourth string running backs!

If you think this is the same Lakeland team that played Whitewater in Week 3, you haven't been paying attention. This team is back to what we saw last year when they hung with Whitewater for 3 quarters.

Not to take anything away from UWW, I strongly believe they are national title contenders this year. It takes a VERY good team to go through the WIAC unbeaten, and although the season isn't over, they've got a pretty damn good shot of remaining undefeated.

All I'm saying is that a playoff game between these two teams would be closer than expected. Maybe not 10 or less points, but certainly not 30 plus.


Aufb05-
7-7 at half to EUREKA?! What gives?
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: aufb05 on October 24, 2005, 09:39:19 am
Big_Uns-

AU's playing a tough team next week. Sometimes you got to dig deep into your bag to see what works or what doesn't. The end was never in doubt. It was a good opportunity to try some different Os (1st half anyway). AU isn't taking LAKE lightly. 
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: disgracetofball on October 24, 2005, 04:08:59 pm
Ok now you people are talking about the same stuff I was but I made my point more blunt.  This conference is not going to win a playoff game, ever.  The fact they beat up on each other is ridiculous.  You can look at the running up of the scores and look at it two ways.  The first is why would they run up the score? there is no margin of victory factor in the D3 BCS(oh wait all you have to do is win the conference championship). Second, the teams aren't really running up any scores, when you can rush the ball 50+ times and gain 400-600 yards you are just playing a really bad team, should these teams just not even put a team on the field.  So until there are ANY non-conference wins (regular season or playoffs) who cares?
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: FalconsFootball on October 24, 2005, 05:59:07 pm
I realize this conferences post season record has been pretty bad but I d not hink it is fair t keep bashing it like you have.  The teames from this conference usually get matched up against some of the best teams in DIII. 

I played for CUW when we played UW La Crosse That game was 21-7 at half time. That was only because of a miscommunication in coverage otherwise it would have been 14-7 The only reason the game ended up lopsided was because our punter could not get the D out of horrible field position.  La Crosse's average starting field position for the 2nd half was CUW's 33!!!! yard line.  Every drive that started on the other side of the field CUW's defense held La Crosse.  La Crosse wound up losing to Mount Union by two or three touchdowns.  All I know is everyone on CUW's defense that year (probably the best the IBFC will ever see) knows they can play with the top teams in this D III. 

Last Year the only reason AU lost was becuase of Woosters RB.  Anything can happen on a given day.

At CUW we scrimmage Carthage every year before the season begins and we handle them every year. They are a respected team who is no better than the top teams in the IBFC.  The problem is there is little to no compairison between the top and bottom of the IBFC.  There are some pretty bad teams, but there are also some pretty good teams. 

Saying that some highschool teams could beat u is a f-ing joke.  I played H.S. ball in Florida (some of, if not the, best football in the country) and I played with and against some amaizing players and making that compairison is a joke.  I know the limitations of this conference as do many of us so there is no need for you to come on here and continually bash it.  There are some stupid conversations and arguements that go on along with program bashing.  HOWEVER, we are all playing cause we love the game and we put just as much into it as anyone else, if not more, because we don't get endorsments or scholarships or breaks in school because of our thletic status. so take it somewhere else.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: aufb05 on October 24, 2005, 06:51:40 pm
Maddog-

Missed you buddy. I'll hook up with you next week. I'm sure your fans will point me out to you. As I said at the beginning of the season it all comes down to this game.  Looking forward to meeting you and your son.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: maddog8 on October 24, 2005, 08:00:04 pm
Likewise my friend look forward to meeting you.  I will be standing in the end zone.  See you there, will be a great game.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: admin on October 24, 2005, 09:33:16 pm
Disgracetofball, your name suits you well, you are pathetic and a disgracetofball. At least these kids are playing the game instead of bashing it like you. [remainder deleted]

Hey, uhm, maddog, that isn't even close to appropriate. You know what I'm referring to. Don't go there.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: markdamaker40 on October 24, 2005, 09:49:06 pm
At CUW we scrimmage Carthage every year before the season begins and we handle them every year. They are a respected team who is no better than the top teams in the IBFC.  The problem is there is little to no compairison between the top and bottom of the IBFC.  There are some pretty bad teams, but there are also some pretty good teams. 

OH MY GOD, YOU HAVE GOT TO BE KIDDING ME. I ALMOST FELL OUT OF MY CHAIR LAUGHING SO HARD AT THIS. YOU ARE BASING YOUR ENTIRE ARGUMENT ON A SCRIMAGE. A SCRIMAGE DOES NOT MEASURE HOW A TEAM IS GOING TO DO IN THE REGULAR SEASON.  I BET ITS THE KIND OF SCRIMAGE WHERE EACH OFFENSE GETS LIKE 20 PLAYS IN A ROW AND IF THEY DON'T AND IF THEY DON'T GET A FIRST DOWN THEY MOVE BACK TO THEIR OWN 40 YARD LINE. YOU CAN NOT TELL ME THAT YOU HONESTLY THINK THAT CONCORDIA'S OFFENSE WOULD BE ABLE TO MOVE THE BALL ON A STINGY CARTHAGE DEFENSE.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Fluffypuppy on October 25, 2005, 06:39:03 am
I'm not doubting the weakness of this conference overall this year.  But past winners have been competitive outside of conference.  It doesn't matter mcuh anymore thought b/c the conference will be dissolved after this year. 

What ever happened to Thunder Dave Sunseri, last I heard was he was making brooms somewhere in Georgia.  Anyone heard any truth to that rumor.

Pongo or whatever your name is now, u suck.  Superstar would run, and throw circles around your ass.  How's Luther treatin ya' Ice Water?
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Gomer Pyle on October 25, 2005, 09:15:47 am
AUF05:  Up-Set: to defeat or overthrow an opponent that is considered more formidable, as in sports.  As Mac had a better record at the time plus a good QB and an excellent RB it, the "up-set", was the proper call. IMO.
  Win: To finish first in a contest. Bu did just that.
  We both got BU as the winner but just went in 2 different directions. 
  Wednesday(tomorrow) i`ll post my picks for this saturday`s games.
   Maddog8: what happened? Your commentary is missed.  Don`t clam up, that`s not your style.
   
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: aufb05 on October 25, 2005, 10:27:52 am
Gomer-

Its Tuesday, so here goes.

Upset is what I expect AU to do at LAKE on Saturday. Three reasons 1. AU has the lowest opponents points  2. Horung is consistent with his passing game 3. AU has found their running game (that wasn't the case at CUW). I don't know if AU can win by the number they need to represent. That said, either team will make a good IBFC representative.

CUW over BEN, BEN has been playing well but it would take a miracle to outplay CUW's D and running game.

GRN over CUR, GRN's D will stop whatever CUR's O can put together. 

MAC over EUR, I'm not sure why MAC has had a tough year. It almost seems internal - the talent is there. I like EUR's QB but the rest of the team performs in spurts and not always at the same time. 

That's it sports fans.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: FalconsFootball on October 25, 2005, 01:10:49 pm
Carthage does have a good defense and they did a good job. Especially becuase CUW O coordinator has known Carthages D coordinator for a long time.  Also Carthage prepares for CUW during camp.  We don't even know what kind of offense Carthage runs untill we get to the game.  CUW was also missing their starting D-Tackle, middle linebacker, and free safety, all three are all-conference players.  Carthage is a good team I am not taking anything away from them, its just that they get respect and we don't. I believe the teams that represent this conference in the playoffs do not win becuase we are constantly matched up against the best DIII has to offer. 
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: maddog8 on October 25, 2005, 01:19:02 pm
The only pick I'm concerned with at this stage of the game is LAKELAND will not go down in DEFEAT they have to much determination for that to happen. Trust me when I say this AUFB05 THERE DEFENSE IS READY FOR HORNUNG AND COMPANY.  Not to mention that their OFFENSE is finally clicking.  Good luck to both team in this battle. LAKELAND over AU. Besides this DEFENSE in not even close to last years THEY are better. Hard to believe but it is true. Tere goal is to punish you, yes you. I want to see after a couple of blows, if Hornung can stay in there I know Schmidke from Mac couldn't!!!
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: maddog8 on October 25, 2005, 01:27:59 pm
Horung if your listening, MADDOG is telling you son be ready this is not a joke or game here, be ready because you will be smacked Hard very Hard. Bank on this one!! I do agree any one of these teams will be a good representative for the conference,  but honestly Horung please be ready they will be hunting you down like a DEER. Oh that is right DEER season is OPEN. AUFB05 look forward to seeing you, and best of luck to all IBFC teams this weekend.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Gomer Pyle on October 25, 2005, 02:14:16 pm
 Maddog8: I`m sure your correct about the QB from Mac getting beat up by the lakeland "D" but
  you and i both know Mac Has...... NO OFFENSIVE LINE!!!  In fact they haven`t had one since the
  2000-01 seasons.  Just wanted to point that out.
  If Lakeland gets by Aurora then you have every right to pump your fist.  Saturday should be the defining game for LC as far as this conference season goes. Then the play-offs. Whole new ball game.
  Guess i`ll have to keep checking the D3 scoreboard for up dates. 
   
 
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: aufb05 on October 25, 2005, 03:45:47 pm
Maddog-

Bring on those 15 yd. penalites. It ain't deer meat when you get your a-- chewed.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: uamusme on October 25, 2005, 03:59:40 pm
   If Lakeland gets by Aurora then you have every right to pump your fist.  Saturday should be the defining game for LC as far as this conference season goes. Then the play-offs. Whole new ball game.
  Guess i`ll have to keep checking the D3 scoreboard for up dates. 
   

I agree, this IS the game of the year for the conference. I'm not trying to take away from the Lakeland - CUW, or any other games this year, but for both teams, this is the only game that matters. For both Lakeland and AU this is it.

Ok, now on to tie breaker stuff... let me see if I get this right.

Provided CUW wins this week and next week and both LAKE and AU win their last conference games against Greenville and MAC respectively...

If AU beats LAKE by More than 3 but less than 9, CUW would represent in the playoffs.

If LAKE beats AU this week, LAKE automatically wins conference

If AU beats LAKE by more than 8, they win the first tiebreaker and therefore represent in the playoffs.

Thats why I'm calling this the game of the year, everything rests upon this game for 3 teams...
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Big_Uns on October 25, 2005, 04:39:38 pm
Aurora needs to win by 9 or more to represent.

Lakeland loses by any number, they have to hope CUW loses again.

It's win and in for Lakeland. Lose and they're SOL pretty much.

CUW is cheering for a close Aurora win, Aurora's hoping for a blowout win.

I think I'm starting to like the coin flip scenario a la Friday Night Lights over this math s---.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: maddog8 on October 25, 2005, 05:53:53 pm
AUFB05, I have to believe that Lakeland will play mistake free football, In the last 2 games against the Concordia's they had very limited penalties. This team is really focused. In fact they were hoping for Whitewater again in the playoffs should they win Sat. Not looking ahead though this will be a good game, in fact so good that I'm calling it a blow out for the MUSKIES. I also think it would be suprising if they don't have at least 3 "D" line and 2 Linebackers on the first team all conference this year. You will see this is not the team that play Whitewater the third week of the season, This team is hungry for anyone who want's too play. My hat will be off to Horung if he makes it thru the game. No doubt on a cold day, for some reason the hit becomes more painful. And AUFB05 I am not talking cheap shot here. I personally would be disappointed in this team if that were the case. They like knocking the snot out of people, ask anyone who has played them since Whitewater. Out til Sat Oh and HOG's take care of business, you no what I mean a Steak is riding on it!!!!!!! See you in the endzone my buddy look forward to meeting you I meet Da One at a Luther game this year great people from AU
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: aufb05 on October 25, 2005, 06:33:29 pm
Maddog-

I've look for the guy biting his nails in the end zone.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: maddog8 on October 25, 2005, 06:44:22 pm
Then it will be my toe nails, hell I lost my finger nails in the Concordia game. Hey see you then
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: CUWFB on October 25, 2005, 07:55:27 pm
Aurora needs to win by 9 or more to represent.

Lakeland loses by any number, they have to hope CUW loses again.

It's win and in for Lakeland. Lose and they're SOL pretty much.

CUW is cheering for a close Aurora win, Aurora's hoping for a blowout win.

I think I'm starting to like the coin flip scenario a la Friday Night Lights over this math s---.

OK, I've seen a million different numbers and its annoying the hell out of me.  I don't know how you guys ever made it through school, but it doesn't seem that tough!!

CUW beat Aurora 26-21.  Thats +5... Lakeland beat CUW 17-14 that makes CUW +2...  (5-3=2)  Not very difficult right?

Lakeland would be +3... yes 17-14 = 3.  And Aurora would be -5 (26-21).

So if Lakeland loses by TWO that would make them +1 and CUW would go to the playoffs at +2.  Lakeland CAN afford to lose by ONE point, which would then tie CUW and Lakeland at +2, with Lakeland taking the tiebreaker with the win over CUW.

If Aurora wins by 7 that would put them at +2, a tie with CUW, but since CUW beat Aurora; CUW would go to the playoffs.  Therefore, Aurora needs to win by 8 or more.

Recap:

Aurora wins by 8 or more, Auora goes to playoffs.
Aurora wins by 1 point, Lakeland goes to playoffs.
Aurora wins by 2-7 points, CUW goes to playoffs.
Lakeland wins, Lakeland goes to playoffs.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: aufb05 on October 25, 2005, 08:13:32 pm
CUWFB-

You da man!! Couldn't of said it better.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Big_Uns on October 25, 2005, 09:15:43 pm
CUWFB-

I haven't made it through school yet, haha. My bad. I thought the score of the Aurora-CUW game was 26-20.

You're right it's not that hard, and technically I did MY math right, I just gave myself the wrong numbers.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: uamusme on October 25, 2005, 10:39:36 pm
CUWFB-

All I have to say is "Doh!"

Yeah I forgot to factor in the -3+5=2 part...

I was close
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Gomer Pyle on October 26, 2005, 08:04:30 am
 Picks for this saturday,10/29.
   (1) Greenville over Concordia,Ill. GC is riding high after taking it to Mac. No way they lose to Con,Ill.
   As for Con,Ill, they don`t have enough fire-power to play with anybody but to their credit they show up every game day and play.
  (2) Con,W  vs  BU: CW has won their games but most have been close. I think the loss to LC last week took the wind out of their sails. While BU on the other hand has got something going. Could it be Coach Cooper has got those boys believing?
  BU in an up-set.
   (3) Eureka vs Mac: For some reason or another Mac has tanked. They have some real talent in the backfield( QB and RB Ereg) but with out an "O" line
   it`s hard to get the plays started.
   Eureka in reality should not be a threat but who knows?   
     Mac should get the "W".
    (4) LC vs Aurora: What can you say? LC has beat up on the "no-bodies" of the conference, CW excluded.
    Out side of it they got thumped. Good experience though.
    Aurora has not blown the better teams out but played steady in getting their wins.
     LC needs to win if they don`t all that huffing and puffing will have have gone for naught.
    These teams match up in a lot of stats but imo
     They(LC) have the horses to win ( penalties aside)
   so i`d say LC gets the "W".
    Course D3 score-board will keep us posted along with guys from the various schools that are playing saturday.  Always nice to see the early scores posted on this site.
   
     
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: gc_fan on October 26, 2005, 08:27:36 am
Gomer - Thanks for your picks, just a small correction, Greenville hosted CUW last week, they played, Mac 2 weeks ago, but as you said, CUW plays close games as they won by a score of 19 to 14 over G.C.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Gomer Pyle on October 26, 2005, 08:42:07 am
Maddog8: You said in part,".... In fact they were hoping for Whitewater again........."
   UW-whitewater is ranked #2 in the nation in D3.
   They could well be playing for the D-3 National Championship with a little help along the way.
   Lakeland is ranked where please?  No where.
 I understand your bravado and your belief in the team plus this is your last "go-round" but to suggest  LC would strike fear into UW-WW is a stretch. I`m of the opinion that they would give
 LC a lickin and keep on tickin, again.
   UW_WW is a far superior team plus their conference is must stronger top to bottom IMO.
   I`m not here to slam LC or you for that matter but to offer a different "thought" on your comment.
  Remember i`m neutral, no family....no nothing.
  
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Gomer Pyle on October 26, 2005, 08:58:14 am
Gomer - Thanks for your picks, just a small correction, Greenville hosted CUW last week, they played, Mac 2 weeks ago, but as you said, CUW plays close games as they won by a score of 19 to 14 over G.C.
 
  Good eye, but that was just a reference. It was ment to indicate GC got a good win over a team they should not have beaten, although i called it.
    My bad! Should have been "more" clear on my intent.  This is one of those times i know what i ment but as you indicated left some doubt.
   If you get any early scores this saturday.....postum.
   
   
   
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: gc_fan on October 26, 2005, 09:05:29 am
I plan to listen on the radio http://www.wgrn.net/ so will keep the score from the Greenville/CURF game updated
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: FalconsFootball on October 26, 2005, 10:08:25 am
LC is not as physically dominating as they would like to think they are.  I don't think Hornung really needs to worry that much. He held tough through CUW's defense and will do the same this week. He'll keep representing Fla well.   
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Big_Uns on October 26, 2005, 10:19:47 am
"Hornung held tough through CUW's defense"...but Lakeland beat CUW didn't they...because of their defense if I remember correctly.

Of course, I was not there to witness it, but CUW's offense wasn't that bad going into that game, and how many yards did they manage in the second half? 40? And a CUW person is saying that Lakeland is not as physically dominating as they think they are? So they THINK they should've held you to 20 second half yards but only managed 40?

Just a thought.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: FalconsFootball on October 26, 2005, 10:55:00 am
I was speaking more from the defensive side of the ball as LC's offense scored only 10 points, 3 of which came on a blocked punt that LC recovered on CUW 15 and CUW's defense held them to a field goal. The other touchdown came off of an option pitch into a defender who scooped and scored.  Good play by him, not so good by the QB.  LC's only offensive touchdown came when a freshman linebacker forgot he was in man coverage and let a reciever run free.

They did hold the offense to to 41 yds in the second half and it was a job well done.  They should also thank the predictability of the offense for that one.  Everyone knows what plays are going to be run and LC did a good job of stopping them.

I'm just saying that CUW's D is pretty physical as well.

   
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: redman04 on October 26, 2005, 12:37:05 pm
• Everyone vote Brett Elliott for Heisman

Did everybody see this on the front page?  If not check it out and vote!  It could do nothing but help DIII football.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: baseman201 on October 26, 2005, 12:50:23 pm
Gomer -

I am glad someone finally realized that Whitewater would hand it to Lakeland if they played again.  Somewhere before someone said that Lakeland would give Whitewater a better game, and that it would be close.  Though it might be a better game, it wouldn't be a close one.  With Whitewater 7-0 in one of the best(if not the best) conference in all of D-III, I would say that is unlikely.

And I never knew Maddog said that they were hoping to play Whitewater again, what, to get spanked for the second time in one season by the same team?  I would be praying NOT to play Whitewater in the first round, because that is an automatic exit from the playoffs.  

I mean, the team in last place (UW-Platteville) in that league could probably give Lakeland a good game, and probably win to go along with it.

But, we will see how things shape out this weekend for the conference.  And I can't wait to see the team the IBFC representative has to play, exciting stuff.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: maddog8 on October 26, 2005, 12:52:55 pm
falcsfb, forgive me but the last time I play the game the offense usually went against the defense, CUW's defense was fortunate to have two TD passes negated because the officals made mis calls, The pass to McArthur White was a TD. Catching the ball in the endzone and then having it stripped is NOT an incomplete pass. So CUW was fortunate for that happening. Also, Bobby Langston was the only Dominate player that day from my view point, Defenately first team all conference. YET, the LEADING RUSHER in the IBFC is MILLS and THEY SHUT HIM DOWN litterally. EDGER the SECOND LEADING RUSHER IN THE CONFERENCE WAS SHUT DOWN. PLEASE, who is AU's leading rusher, Therfore unless Hornung has a superb day passing look out. He is a pocket passer, and last year was hurt most of the game from the second quarter on. AGAIN, I said this years DEFENSE is much more physical and faster than last years. I'm sure it is wishful thinking on the Falcon's part but these's guys are coming to PLAY. I kid you not. At 47 I have been around the game along time, they are not the same team as the third week. And Gomer, we really had an off day against Whitewater, YES they are #2, and YES they did smack us around but we were missing some key players on our defense, WE are healty now. Besides it was only 14-12 at halftime against Whitewater #2 in the country. Our offense did manage over 300+ yrds against the #2 team in the country. Unlike last year this team has come from behind at least 4 games this year, so make no mistake THEY do NOT get startled by being behind. They have the BEST COACH in the conference and he will have them ready be asured of that.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: aufb05 on October 26, 2005, 03:00:14 pm
Maddog-

Hope LAKE plays as good as you post. LAKE's win against CUW was a gift. As for WW, they didn't have a good day and LAKE didn't have a bad day. LAKE (or any team in the IBFC) doesn't play at their level. That isn't to say that LAKE could not have made it more interesting. By the way none of the teams are the same as they were in week three. Your a great dad and a better fan, so is Mr. Hornung. The difference is he doesn't post on how AU's D will test the skills of LAKE's QB. Might want to think about that. No sense in making this game personal.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Gomer Pyle on October 26, 2005, 04:02:28 pm
maddog8: You know, maybe Aufbo5 has a point.
  I know for sure your talking from a clean, hard fought game stand point but maybe singling out a certain player from the opposing team  might led people to think other wise.
  LC is the most penalized ( or close to it)  team in the conference
  ( if i`m  wrong my apologise) that alone calls into question their discipline. Can`t blame it all on the refs. 
   Remember last year when LC had those NFL linemen types? No point. just was thinking about it.
   
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: maddog8 on October 26, 2005, 05:16:08 pm
Guys, first the Hornung name is a legand and Andrew is a super QB from what I have seen, you guys seem to say he is the differance maker of this game, I'm saying that the D will be ready. Frankly I would be shockewd if Coach Duncan didn't have his troops ready. Besides I thought this was suppose to be fun for US, I would be disappointed if the players were writing this stuff, but us this is all fun for me no harm intended. Just my thoughts of the game to be played. In addition if this is what it takes to get any team fired up then they really don't know how to play the true game. This is for us old timers not them. I hardly doubt if Hornung read this stuff. Again take nothing away from him HE IS AUs TEAM on offense!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I personnally know that one.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: uamusme on October 26, 2005, 05:27:46 pm
   Remember last year when LC had those NFL linemen types? No point. just was thinking about it.
   

Are you referring to size? Because they returned 3 out of 4 starting d-linemen if i remember right, only one end not returning and being replaced by a medical redshirt.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: maddog8 on October 26, 2005, 05:41:59 pm
Hey guys a few things before I stop posting 1). Gomer you asked me to post because, I haven't all year and THAT WAS NOT MY STYLE. so I have since posted. 2) I would never condon, support or be PROUD of ANYONE taking a CHEAP SHOT on any player, that's not what I was refering to if you guys thought that. NOT MY STYLE. 3). Andrew is a super player and on the "ALL MADDOG TEAM". sO PLEASE DON'T  EVEN THINK THAT I WAS HOPING THAT. I never want any player to get hurt regardless of who it is, NOT MY STYLE. and lastly AU will be ready for this game I was just having some fun, so I thought. Never again will I post other than the "ALL MADDOG TEAM".  sorry but you call me out then want to critise me. I look forward to a great game and will support who EVER represents the IBFC OUT FOR GOOD!!!!!!!!!!!!Oh and as for a proud parent well who wouldn't be if there child was playing college sports, weather they start or NOT!
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: aufb05 on October 26, 2005, 07:41:26 pm
Maddog-

Just didn't want anyone reading you the wrong way. This Board has 416 post and 12,036 views. You can bet the players read what we say. Your "may-a-cupa" was well meant and well taken - no need to leave the Board.   
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: fishguy on October 26, 2005, 10:49:13 pm
LAKE's win against CUW was a gift.

No it wasn't - Lakeland rallied from a 14-0 deficit by completely shutting down CUW's offense, especially in the second half, and had it not been for a dropped TD pass, it would have been a 10-point win. It was a great game between the two best teams in the league this season, and on that day the better team - and likely IBC playoff rep - won a hard-fought victory.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Fluffypuppy on October 27, 2005, 05:15:23 am
Is Nick Buffano still the starting tailback for Aurora or will he be out this week.  I thought I heard he messed up his wrist.  Any truth to this rumor?
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Gomer Pyle on October 27, 2005, 08:03:47 am
   Remember last year when LC had those NFL linemen types? No point. just was thinking about it.
   

Are you referring to size? Because they returned 3 out of 4 starting d-linemen if i remember right, only one end not returning and being replaced by a medical redshirt.

 More of a joke on my part as it was Maddog8 who
  kind of coined that phrase. He was alluding to their size. All the banter was good natured. 
 
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Gomer Pyle on October 27, 2005, 08:48:19 am
Maddog8: My comment about ," not your style"
   refers to your lack of postings, nothing else !
   Last year you were very vocal in that your postings had some good stuff (information, commentary, thoughts) Your ALL Maddog Team was well thought out and gave the guys(players)
  and viewers of this forum good fodder to discuss.
 You know that because everybody thought you left somebody off or atleast they thought you did.
  Your comments were not combative,IMO plus they help "fuel" other comments.
  This season you had some postings but it seems after the UW-WW game you kind of pulled back.
   Now, as the game with AU is just around the corner your postings have come back to life, enough so that some of them have raised some questions. People just respond to what they see.
  What you are thinking and how is comes out on this forum is the problem. I`ve been caught up in that myself......bound to happen.
  Your last post  makes it sound like you were bush-wacked or as you said," calling me out".
  Well maddog8, i`m here to tell you i was calling you out! I wanted your  thoughtful comments.
   Nothing more nothing less. I hope i have cleared
  the air of any misunderstanding.
   Good friendly banter works all the time ...........
     
 
   
 
   
 
   
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: aufb05 on October 27, 2005, 09:12:43 am
Fluff-

No Buffano on the AU Roster.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: maddog8 on October 27, 2005, 01:29:13 pm
Gomer your right on that point, but for those who don't know me from last years posting should know that I love this game and would NEVER condon ANY cheap shot. AUFB05 to single out Hornung is because he is there team on offense, Stoping Hornung stops AU. Defensively, I don't think from what I have seen that AU's can compare to Lakelands, size and speed. A passing game will not win this one. Honestly, on any given day anyone can win, my feeling is this team is so united and hungry that they will not let their gaurd down.  I drive 1,250 miles round trip from Detroit to see the Muskies every weekend, and look forward to an exciting game, this week is no different. No doubt this game decides the conference winner, and playing Whitewater and Carthage has prepared this team for this weekend. Actually if more teams play out of conference teams like Lakeland they would probably be better prepared for the conference play. I think AU playing Alma (an hour drive in Michigan from me) is a plus for them, they are not an easy foe. One last comment please to all readers I believe and want fare play from all players and expect NOTHING LESS.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: aufb05 on October 27, 2005, 03:34:56 pm
Maddog-

Every think about "Lake Express", auto & boat ferry - Muskegon to Milwaukee in 2 1/2 hours (3 1/2 for time zone difference).
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: maddog8 on October 27, 2005, 05:51:17 pm
Tried the one in Ludington to Montaowac How ever it is spelled, took 4 hours and cost 90 dollars. Personally I really don't mind the 7 hour drive there I just hate the drive home. Problem is I get of work Friday nights at 1 a.m. and then drive all night for the game. Stay up all day to watch the game.  I do spend the night in Sheboygan. The drive home in the morning and it is anoying because of traffic in Chicago. Thanks for the advice.  Still look forward to seeing you Sat in the zone.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: d3ftball1 on October 28, 2005, 02:02:13 pm
gvfan
Will you be listening tomorrow? I lost your email add so I couldn't email you. I think I saw you at the game but you were always with a group of people so I didn't bother you.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: gc_fan on October 28, 2005, 03:34:34 pm
yes - check your e-mail for more
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: FalconsFootball on October 28, 2005, 09:04:55 pm
I keep reading about this "dropped" touchdown pass but the receiver never had control of the ball  and there was no second TD pass that was a missed call.  The on the missed call you actually refered to the safetey made a great play after he got beat he was disciplined enough to catch up and knock the ball out of the receivers hands.  The point was CUW's D gave up 7 points LC's gave up 14.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Big_Uns on October 29, 2005, 01:11:53 am
And Lakeland's defense scored 6, how many points did CUW's D score? In my opinion, your point is irrelevant.

Besides, it's been how two weeks now since you lost to Lakeland. How long are you going to continue to bitch about it? What would've happened if you lost to Greenville last week? Would you still be trying to prove that you're better than Lakeland?
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Fluffypuppy on October 29, 2005, 01:43:46 am
I think Buffano played a yr ago or something, I guess he's no longer on the squad, I have'nt really paid attention this year.

Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: gc_fan on October 29, 2005, 02:38:31 pm
At the end of the 1st Quarter - Greenville 13, CURF 0
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: gc_fan on October 29, 2005, 03:20:32 pm
At the half - Greenville 36 - CURF 0
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: gc_fan on October 29, 2005, 04:09:03 pm
At the end of 3 - Greenville 36 - CURF 6
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: gc_fan on October 29, 2005, 04:45:52 pm
Final Score Greenville 42 - CURF 20
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: uamusme on October 29, 2005, 05:04:58 pm
Final score

Lakeland 58 - Aurora 0

so much for a tiebreaker...
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: fishguy on October 29, 2005, 05:22:58 pm
late in the third quarter Lakeland had nearly 400 yards of total offense, and Aurora had 30 and only one first down. it could not have been more dominating. the Aurora kids seemed scared of Lakeland's defense today. it was pretty amazing to see. clearly the IBC is sending its best team to the playoffs this season - good luck Muskies!
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Big_Uns on October 29, 2005, 07:00:01 pm
That game was downright scary. Lakeland held Aurora under 100 yards of offense until the last drive of the game. Does this answer any questions about whose defense is the best in the league?
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: superstar on October 29, 2005, 08:52:09 pm
i just have to hand it to lakeland although its very hard.  its an embarrassing day to be a spartan.  i think its time to get some players that want to play real au football.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Fluffypuppy on October 30, 2005, 03:37:13 am
I agree, players like Nick "Thunderpants" Buffano
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: aufb05 on October 30, 2005, 08:57:13 am
Maddog-

Nice meeting you, your son is one hell of a player. Congrats to LAKE. I stopped at the casino in Milaukee on the the way back - it had the same outcome as the game. Casino 250 - me 0.

So what do you do after College FB?
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Pat Coleman on October 30, 2005, 11:12:00 am
Come join us on D3hoops.com? :)
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Gomer Pyle on October 30, 2005, 12:32:59 pm
 Congradulations to Lakeland.   
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: maddog8 on October 31, 2005, 04:48:07 am
AUFB05, likewise it was a preasure meeting you also. Thanks for the compliment , my son will appreciate hearing that, let me also say that without the rest of his teamates/family he would not be standing out like that. He know's it takes a brotherhood of players to be that successful. I would like to say that althought the game was one sided, the AU players never gave up. my hat is off to them. As for the MUSKIES DON'T look past Greenville, which I am sure you won't, they would love nothing more than to have you SHARE that title you fought so hard for. They can make a spolier of this game. We need that 7 game win streek going into the playoffs. Maddog doesn't really know what he will do next year after football, probably spend more time with my daughters. I do know that Greenville is my MOST IMPROVED TEAM of the YEAR, without a doubt. MacMurry the bigest DISAPPOINTMENT of the YEAR. I will say with the addition of the (2) Saginaw coaches Mac will be much better next year. The reason I know this is because (hear you go baseman101) my son redshirted there his freshman year. Saginaw is ranked 4th nationally in DII. You had asked me in the beging that is your son was so good why didn't he play DII, Well he did. He left for Lakeland to play rather than sit til his time came up. Besides since going to Lakeland he has met a GREAT bunch of guys that are like real BROTHERS to him. If you asked him I bet he would tell you that he would not have changed a thing knowing he would have probably been the starter there. I prsonally am glad he went to Lakeland because of these kids. You can saee that all of them were raised very well by their parents. A GREAT bunch that are WELL coach by a TRUE LEADER of the GAME. Coach "Z" and company. This guy is DEFINATELY a D-I coach.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: formerd3db on October 31, 2005, 10:21:49 am
maddog:
Good comments.  I just wanted to commend you and your son for the sentiments and commeraderie you expressed among the players and parents.  Unfortunately, not every college team has such support among the players, parents, and fans, including those who are reserves.  It is a great situation to experience and/or see when it does occur.

As for Saginaw, it is interesting to see that they were still ranked in the Top 20 despite being demolished by Grand Valley State a few weeks ago.  While I admit that I haven't followed DII as closely this year, from a superficial observation, I am not sure that there are as many powerful teams in DII this year as compared to recent years.  It will be interesting to see what happens in their playoffs this season.  I was slightly surprised to see that Michigan Tech has taken a dip this year, although Wayne State appears much improved (still a long way for them to go as yet, but not impossible as Mich Tech has shown).  Back to Saginaw:  it is good to hear that there are a couple of good coaches from there.  My college roommate's son went there for a year, but was not impressed (and it is my understanding he was not treated very well; he plays two sports).  Like your son, he transferred to a DIII school (although for slightly different reasons obviously) and is enjoying it very much and while not yet a starter in football, he is getting decent playing time.

Anyway, just thought I would add a few comments to your discussion.  Good luck to your son and team the rest of the way.

BTW, I'm sure you'll find something to do next season regarding football after your son's career is completed.  I would venture a guess to say that you'll probably still follow DIII fb in some capacity or another, just like the rest of us DIII "has beens". ;)
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: maddog8 on October 31, 2005, 11:15:31 am
Formerd3db, thanks a million for your thoughts, I will tell you this if FORD (where I work) does not pick up in sales I may be looking for a new job, possibly coaching football, ya right. Luckly Randy Awery was Lakelands former coach and enjoyed Ryan to help him come to Lakeland without penalizing him one year due to transfering. He is really a good coach from our experience. I just enjoy the game so much that you can bank on me watching all the IBFC teams next year even though the conference will be broken up. As for DII, Grand Valley is always up there so is Saginaw problem is they are both in the same conference and unfortunately they have to play 2 times a year. If seperated I think they would meet in the finals very often. Both have great programs. which is why I think Mac will be BACK. As for Tech, my partner here at FORD said it was just a fluk last year. He is probably right, he played on 2 of Grand Valleys Championship teams. Look for Grand Valley to win it all in DII, my heart is with the SVSU cardinals though. Winner of that game will win it all. I will say that DIII football has improve greatly over the years. Again thanks for your thoughts.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: formerd3db on October 31, 2005, 11:39:13 am
maddog:
You're welcome and I appreciate the follow-up info.  Best of luck regarding the job situation.  Keep the Faith!  See you around the board(s).
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: d3ftball1 on October 31, 2005, 02:50:15 pm
Maddog

I have seen posted that the ibc is breaking up. I know your son is at Lakeland but do you know where the other schools will be playing? In our media guide for 2006 it shows we will be playing the same teams next year. Do you know when the breakup is suppose to happen? Maybe our schedule for next year is incorrect.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: footballfan05 on October 31, 2005, 05:16:26 pm
I'm pretty sure the IBFC will be around one more year but the NIIC conference and the conference that is combining with it will combine next year in all other sports and football will follow in the 07' season.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: d3ftball1 on October 31, 2005, 06:13:25 pm
footballfan05
Thanks for the response. Will all the ibc teams be in the same conference or will they be split up?
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: uamusme on October 31, 2005, 06:34:04 pm
Aurora, Benedictine, Concordia-Ill., Concordia-Wis., Lakeland are remaining

I'm not sure about any of the other schools

Joining the new conference are Maranatha Baptist, Rockport, and Wisconsin Lutheran.

Play begins tenatively in '07
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: fishguy on October 31, 2005, 11:34:54 pm
That's Rockford, not Rockport - as in Rockford College, currently of the NIIC. Play for football begins in 2008 because Wis Lutheran is under contract with their league through 2007. Play in all other sports begins next school year, 2006-07.

The complete lineup for this new conference is: Alverno College, Aurora College, Benedictine University, Concordia-River Forest, Concordia University-Mequon, Dominican University, Edgewood College, Lakeland, Maranatha Baptist Bible College, Marian College, Rockford College and Wisconsin Lutheran.

I have heard talk that Marian has discussed trying to add football in the future.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: fsufan on November 01, 2005, 01:57:47 am
They can change the league, change the teams, change the uniforms, change anything, but at CURF if they don't change admin support (and maybe coaching) we are going to keep getting killed. Roster size is decreasing, players are not staying in the program ( many leave the campus), and recruiting is really tough.  The kids that sign up to play need some support (besides fans).  Other schools have fought through tough times and so can CURF. GO COUGS! :)
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: FalconsFootball on November 01, 2005, 11:47:31 am
I CANNOT beleive that the residents living near CURF will not let the Football team play music on gamedays.  That is the most rediculous thing I have heard in a while.  Honestly, it is only 5 days out of the year what is the big deal.  If I were the administration, or anyone with authority at the school, I would not let the people living in the area use the facilities.  Im sure the same people bitching about the noise on saturdays are out running on the track or playing on the field with their kids when no one is using it.  I feel bad for CURF there has got to be something they can do. They have beautiful facilities hopefully that can bring in some people.  I have heard before they have trouble keeping kids there.   
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: FalconsFootball on November 01, 2005, 11:51:55 am
As a fan I can't wait to see how the new conference works out.  I think it is an awesome thing they are doing and hopefully this new conference will start out great and gain the respect many of these teams deserve.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: uamusme on November 01, 2005, 11:55:09 am
fsufan

To be honest. I think your weakness is our strength, but not in the way you think.

I would love to see a really strong conference where we would be able to hang with any wiac team or any other team in the nation. It's just not plausable right now.

I think that our conference's greatest weakness is the fact that we are mostly private schools, many with a religious tie. This could lead many student athletes to choose to go somewhere else.

Also the high cost of education at our schools is prohibitive, I think Lakeland is the lowest at just over 19000 a year with fees and such included. CURF must be one of the more expensive, just due to location and other factors, Somewhere close to 26000.

I had a question... what do you mean by admin support? Like a lack of money for recruiting or something? Or do they just want to cut the program all together for lack of production?
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: d3fballfan on November 01, 2005, 01:45:21 pm
Of course the residents near CURF won't let them play music...It's the Oak-Park River Forest area, filled with Richie-Rich high brow snobs that live in Frank LLoyd Wright houses.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: aufb05 on November 01, 2005, 02:53:23 pm
fsufb-

I can't buy into the religious thing. Wheaton is a big time religious campus but is at or near the top each year.  I think some of the problem in the IBFC is the change in coaching. New coach comes in and may or may not the find skill players for the the new O or D he brought with him. It may take years of recruiting to blend that scheme. In the meantime if these appointments are short term or if the support from the Admin. isn't there the coach may leave and the program suffers. In some programs a freshman could got through a number of coaching changes, never perfecting his skill level.

Falcbfan- drives home a good point. When the program is struggling and the fan base is low and the community is not supportive, recruitment becomes difficult. CUR coaches have, I believe, moved on because of these problems. Recruiting top coaches (not to say the CUR doesn't have good coaching) becomes impossible.

It would help recruiting if the local press would give as much attention to DIII sports as they do to local H.S. programs. I could go on for hours on this subject.   
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: formerd3db on November 01, 2005, 07:18:40 pm
aufb05 makes some very good points.  Same thing basically occurred at Olivet in the MIAA.  For years, they changed coaches frequently, small school (although beautiful campus), out in the "middle of nowwhere", administrative and social problems.  It indeed takes years to develop that.  However, they finally got the right administration, right coaching staff to change the direction, improved their community fan base, alumni started donating (big time with new facilities), improved the curriculum, etc.,etc.  They will probably never be a powerhouse, and there are probably better schools academically (doesn't mean students there don't get a good education and of course, what a student gets out of their college experience depends in part on what they are looking for to help them in the future).  Anyway, my point is that I would agree with you that it is not impossible for CURF to do - it, though, indeed can be a long and difficult road.  Hopefully, they can improve it.  I would hate to see them drop the program - no need to really. 
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Mr. Ypsi on November 01, 2005, 09:12:24 pm
d3fbfan,

The Frank Lloyd Wright homes are in Oak Park (the nearest one to CURF is probably 3 miles away).  The area immediately around CURF is by no means noticeably wealthy (certainly not poor, but not 'Richie-Rich').

I suspect the protest against music at games is a simple matter of being jerks, rather than specifically 'high brow snobs' jerks!  (Of course, they might be Richie-Rich, high brow snobs wanne-bes.  That I can't say either way!)
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: baseman201 on November 01, 2005, 11:22:07 pm
Mr. Ypsi said,

Quote
The area immediately around CURF is by no means noticeably wealthy (certainly not poor, but not 'Richie-Rich').

Have you ever been to River Forest before?  you said the area around CURF is not noticeably wealthy.  Are you kidding me?  Million dollar homes arent wealthy enough for you?  I mean, Al Capones home is 3 blocks away, (obviously his old home), they just filmed a part of the new fox show "Prison Break", in a huge white house across the street.  I mean, if you have ever been, and driven through River Forest than I apologize for questioning you, but if you haven't, than calling River Forest not "noticeably wealthy" is just a rediculious thing to say.  If half a million to million dollar homes are not wealthy to you, than I really want to see where you live.  And this is definately not tearing down the Oak Park area, and "Frank Lloyd Wright" types of homes, that area is amazing as well.

Back to someones discussion on no music at games.  Ever notice there are no lights at the field either??  That's because the city of River Forest petitioned and said it would bring down the value of their homes surrounding the campus.  That is snobby enough for me.

The facilities are nice yes, they were the first in Illionois to install the new style field turf for football.  I don't know what the problem is, and why they can't get players to stay, and we may never know.  But CURF has to do something in the near future, or else they will keep having the 0-10, 1-9, and 2-8 seasons they have been for the past 3 years.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Mr. Ypsi on November 01, 2005, 11:56:31 pm
baseman201,

I can't speak from recent knowlege, but my brother taught at Oak Park-River Forest High School until the mid-90s, and I visited him in his homes in both Oak Park and River Forest (his RF home was only about 6 blocks from CURF).

I don't wish to be argumentative, because I just don't know, but the immediate area of CURF just didn't strike me as all THAT wealthy.   Given the explosion of home prices in desirable areas, I won't contest that houses in that area would go for what you say (though I would GUESS that 3-4 hundred K would be closer).  Lacking info that is less than 10 years old, I will drop out of the discussion!
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Gomer Pyle on November 02, 2005, 07:48:40 am
  This week lacks the kind of excitement of last weeks schedule as the winner of the IBFC is pretty much a given.
  Some teams are having a nice season while others have fallen off the radar. One just needs to look at the STANDINGS to see whose where.
  Looking ahead i think there will be  major changes next year in the overall standings of this conference.  IMO
    This week, 11/05
   (1) BU vs Con,Ill: BU is playing well and Con,Ill  while showing up every Saturday  just doesn`t have the talent or numbers to out play anybody.
   BU gets the "W".
   (2) Con,W vs Eureka: Eureka always plays hard
   but CW is to strong talent wise.
   CW gets the "W"
   (3) Mac vs Aurora: AU was man handled by LC last week and they`re looking to whip up on somebody. Mac on the other hand has not lived up to expectations. They have a good QB, a better RB and a up and coming WR but other areas of their offense have come up short.
   AU gets the "W"
   (4) LC vs Greenville: LC will take no chances, they will come to play! Undefeated season on the horizon.....conference play.
    Greenville will not fold,they`ll just get beat.
    LC gets the "W"
 
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: aufb05 on November 02, 2005, 09:22:13 am
Gomer-

No need to post results this week, you nailed it.

I have to agreed with you that the last IBFC season (next year) will show changes in the standings. Which seems to be a good topic of conversation as this season comes to a close.

So "Board" who is takes IBFC Coach and Player of the year.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: uamusme on November 02, 2005, 10:34:00 am

So "Board" who is takes IBFC Coach and Player of the year.

You know as much as I'm not for just giving it to the winner of the conference's coach, I'd have to say for what Zebrowski has done for Lakeland, he's brought so much pride back into the program, through alumni, current students, staff, etc. Not to mention turned around a mediocre program.

As for player... Maybe Benton? He's like 2nd in the nation at sacks per game, plus an interception for a touchdown. I'm not too sure about the other teams, even though I did go to all but one of the Lakeland games so far.

Do we have any other statistical leaders? Maybe the CUW guy at 2nd in interceptions? Maybe Maiuri for offensive back?
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: FalconsFootball on November 02, 2005, 10:50:43 am
Congradulations to LC both for getting through conference and for making the front page of d3.com.  Do well in the playoffs, we are counting on you.  Also I think this is the first time an IBFC team had a picture on this site, even though the article is about Monmouth.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: TruCountry95 on November 02, 2005, 06:37:20 pm
yall know whose conference Greenville will be in when everything changes? I heard it may be in the same conference as the Anderson Ravens?
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: uamusme on November 03, 2005, 01:31:11 am
You know i'm kind of disappointed, this board was pretty lively all year and now that Lakeland won the playoff birth, everyone seems to have dropped off.

I mean granted we don't have over 100 pages and stuff like some of the other conferences, but we are a small conference with a lot of small schools, I mean LC's at around 900 and Eureka is what about 600... But that shouldn't stop of from still talking fb...
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Big_Uns on November 03, 2005, 09:40:34 am
Perhaps they're too jived that basketball season is starting soon.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Gomer Pyle on November 03, 2005, 10:16:45 am
You know i'm kind of disappointed, this board was pretty lively all year and now that Lakeland won the playoff birth, everyone seems to have dropped off.

I mean granted we don't have over 100 pages and stuff like some of the other conferences, but we are a small conference with a lot of small schools, I mean LC's at around 900 and Eureka is what about 600... But that shouldn't stop of from still talking fb...

  You`ve got the floor...............bring up something that will invoke some comments.
 
 
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: maddog8 on November 03, 2005, 11:33:33 am
Where is the Picture of Lakeland on the D3 site. Did I miss something? Also, 'THE ALL MADDOG TEAM'  will be out by Nov. 14, please forward you teams selections, and thanks for your input. I'm sure some will not be happy but then again not everyone can make it. 
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Gomer Pyle on November 03, 2005, 02:01:25 pm
Where is the Picture of Lakeland on the D3 site. Did I miss something? Also, 'THE ALL MADDOG TEAM'  will be out by Nov. 14, please forward you teams selections, and thanks for your input. I'm sure some will not be happy but then again not everyone can make it. 

 Maddog8: I didn`t see a picture either but did see a write-up in the ."Around the region " section.
 
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: FalconsFootball on November 03, 2005, 02:59:46 pm
I was saying congrats to LC for making the front page "Around the Region" section. The picture was from the CUW Monmouth game.  It is now at the bottom of the front page.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: formerd3db on November 03, 2005, 07:41:46 pm
Trucounty:
That would be news to the rest of us.  I think that is unlikely.  Anderson is in the HCAC and the only team that is joining that conference that has been announced of recent as I recall is Rose-Hulman, unless I missed something.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: uamusme on November 03, 2005, 08:41:56 pm

  You`ve got the floor...............bring up something that will invoke some comments.
 
 


OK I will...

Since we all know that right now just because of our schools... lets say not performing in the playoffs, we have become the laughing stock as a conference.

Do you think that with the creation of the new conference we will still be thought of in the same way, or will it take a win in the playoffs no matter what?
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Gomer Pyle on November 04, 2005, 09:30:51 am

  You`ve got the floor...............bring up something that will invoke some comments.
 
 


OK I will...

Since we all know that right now just because of our schools... lets say not performing in the playoffs, we have become the laughing stock as a conference.

Do you think that with the creation of the new conference we will still be thought of in the same way, or will it take a win in the playoffs no matter what?

 Couple things come to mind. First, the IBFC is a relative new comer to the world of NCAA play-offs.
  I believe Mac was eligible in 2001 as they had left the SLAC to join the IBFC. I`m not sure when the IBC was formed so they would be NCAA play-off eligible but it hasn`t been very long. Maybe others can provide some insite.
  I read on D3 football, a while ago, that Eureka was the small-ist school in D3 playing football, student enrollment wise. Now that`s out of 220+ schools playing football.
  If you look on the D3 site they have a section that shows teams that have won NCAA play-off games .
  You`ll notice that there are a lot of teams from the "old guard" that have never won a play-off  either. Some of those schools have been playing football forever.
  One thing in my mind about that is some schools support football while some field a football team to
  help overall enrollment. IMO. An example of that is Mac`s football/student ratio. Student body 600(about) football team 100 (about) making the FB team 17% of the student body. Figures are representitive. Course you can say that about all schools but the operative words here are support and field. Big difference. Look at the consistant winners, they have the support of the admin for their program. The others, lots of different agendas.
NCAA  play off teams from the IBFC: CW,Aurora, Mac
 while they have lost, they have played their opponents right up till the end. Keep in mind their are a lot of other teams in a lot of other conferences that are winless as well. 
   LC, as this years IBFC champs, will march into the NCAA play-offs with one thing in mind.......win.
  All they can do like the teams before them is line up and play. Every year the IBC rep is under the gun to get that first NCAA play off win.....could this be the year?
  If the IBFC folds like some have mentioned or re-forms i don`t see an major up side, IMO.
  Looks like some schools are moving back to an even lesser conference which, while you may win the title, leaves you as cannon fodder in the play-offs.
  I wonder what the school agenda is there?
   My thoughts are ment to stir ( in some areas)
   rebuttal, simular trains of thought or what ever seems to fit in here. Dialogue of any kind is better then nothing.
  If i`ve made any errors in stated facts, my apologies. 
   
   
     
 
   
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: fishguy on November 04, 2005, 09:54:09 am
Coach of the year - that's easy, Zebrowski from Lakeland in a landslide.

Player of the year - a lot tougher, although I think the top candidates (in no particular order) are Lakeland QB Ryan Maiuri, Lakeland DL David Benton and Lakeland LB Ryan Van De Loo. Maiuri is easily offensive back of the year. I just do not see any single player from another team having the kind of impact all season that these three have had.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Gomer Pyle on November 04, 2005, 10:23:16 am
Coach of the year - that's easy, Zebrowski from Lakeland in a landslide.

Player of the year - a lot tougher, although I think the top candidates (in no particular order) are Lakeland QB Ryan Maiuri, Lakeland DL David Benton and Lakeland LB Ryan Van De Loo. Maiuri is easily offensive back of the year. I just do not see any single player from another team having the kind of impact all season that these three have had.

  Let me ask a question. It`s pretty easy for a coach who has the "horses" and some 5th year seniors
  to look good as he has, so where is the masterful
  job of coaching? 
  There are other coaches in the IBC who have done a good job with far less. Not so much in winning but in major progress in their programs. BU and Greenville come to mind.
   Put another way, if the coach at LC was the coach at lets say BU then for sure he`d win, as you said, " in a landside."  Just another point of view.
   
   
   
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: d3ftball1 on November 04, 2005, 10:47:05 am
I totally agree with you Gomer. Since I'm pretty new to the boards I was wondering who votes for the coach of the year/player of the year? Is it coachs/players/fans?
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Gomer Pyle on November 04, 2005, 11:07:34 am
I totally agree with you Gomer. Since I'm pretty new to the boards I was wondering who votes for the coach of the year/player of the year? Is it coachs/players/fans?

 I believe the various coaches and possibly SID`s in the IBFC vote amongest themselves for coach of the year plus they also vote the for the various player categories.
  No fan participation except for Maddogs8`s
   yearly and much anticipated IBFC " All Maddog Team. "
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: d3ftball1 on November 04, 2005, 01:24:15 pm
I look forward to seeing Maddogs team! I guess someone will have to step up next year since his son is a senior and will be graduating. Unless he plans on following the stats and doing a team next year. Is that possible Maddog? I know you said you would be spending more time with your daughters.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: aufb05 on November 04, 2005, 03:19:45 pm
While we are on who is good and who isn't. I like to bring out a point on O positions.

We can measure a whole slue of things for QB, RB or WR but when it comes to O lineman, TE or true FB, these players are regretfully overlooked and often underrated.

Show me a QB or RB with decent stats and I show you a O lineman, TE or FB who has made the blocks to produce those stats. Yet the game doesn't record O blocks as the D records tackles and assists.

There has got to be some O lineman, TE or FB out there who can talk about the QB or RB they turned into Conference standouts, while their play was overlooked. Or some conversation about recording blocks. 
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: d3ftball1 on November 04, 2005, 05:11:37 pm
AU

Good point. There have been comments on here about QB's not doing good because the O line was weak but when they talk about all the completed passes and the yards gained no one ever says wow they have a great O line or they really had alot of good blocks. I wonder why they don't keep stats on that like they do on tackles and assisted tackles. I'm sure the QB's give alot of credit to their O lines!
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Big_Uns on November 04, 2005, 06:52:35 pm
Who said Lakeland had everything in place for a run like this? Remember back in 2002 when Lakeland went 5-5 in Coach Hynes' last year? How about the next year with pretty much the same people except with Zebrowski? 8-2. How about the next year after losing Luebke and Taff? 7-3. How about the next year (This year) With THREE freshman starting at the linebacker position before Nick Hunter was adjusted enough from the shift from O to D to take over as ILB next to Van De Loo. The freshman outside backers Hornes and Wagner have been studs. Not to mention a BACKUP freshman linebacker has two defensive TDs this year in Brent Miller. On offense, Denham out for the year. Barrie didn't pan out. Where do you go from there? Oh yeah, a guy who got close to NO playing time in 2004 in Shawn Lee and two more freshman in Erdman and Fitzgerald. And a bunch of first time starting wide receivers.

The offensive and defensive lines are like the only thing you can say that was in place for him to work with, and even then what are you gonna say? Talent doesn't blossom without good coaching.

I don't know how you CANNOT give Coach of the Year to Zebrowski.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: fishguy on November 05, 2005, 12:28:10 am

  Let me ask a question. It`s pretty easy for a coach who has the "horses" and some 5th year seniors
  to look good as he has, so where is the masterful
  job of coaching? 
  There are other coaches in the IBC who have done a good job with far less. Not so much in winning but in major progress in their programs. BU and Greenville come to mind.
   Put another way, if the coach at LC was the coach at lets say BU then for sure he`d win, as you said, " in a landside."  Just another point of view.
 
   
Quote

Well, for starters, they lost an all-american linebacker and are starting two freshmen at linebacker and slapped Aurora - a playoff team from a year ago - with a 58-0 whipping. And those seniors were struggling mightily under the previous coach - just check Lakeland's records - but they are thriving under Zebrowski, and not just because they are in their fourth or fifth season of college ball. I understand your devil's advocate viewpoint, but frankly Lakeland was not at the top of the league when Zebrowski took over, and they are now. They have better players (a sign of good recruiting), and the players he inherited have more impact, which also is, in part, a sign of good coaching. If you want to look at this award in terms of major progress, Zebrowski still wins, in my view. He is a young coaching star with much bigger days ahead of him.
Title: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: TruCountry95 on November 05, 2005, 03:37:10 am
A couple people come to mind from Greenville to be on this All-Maddog Team. Special Team punter Reggie Anthony whose is currently 4th in the nation in punting. Defense Mark Schopp for 5 interceptions this year. (Hopefully saturday after Greenville stop's Lakeland's ground attack he will have a couple more) Also Jon DeJulio, he has a been a great WR this season.  I just wanted to remind the people here that there is another great college and football program down here, south of Chicago believe it or not. Lastly Coach Hehman for building a stronger foundation for that GC team. He and his staff are doing amazing things with that program. If Lakeland thinks coming to GC Saturday will be a "in and out deal lets think playoffs" they got alot coming. But good luck to all the teams Saturday. God Bless-
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: maddog8 on November 05, 2005, 05:14:30 am
d3football1, Yes I will continue to do the "ALL MADDOG TEAM" next year. I enjoy this stuff. The 1st, 2nd and Hornorable mention teams will be out next week. As for MADDOGS (2) COACHES OF THE YEAR AND WHY?

#1 COACH OF THE YEAR " Coach Jim Zebrowski-Lakeland, Jim has taken a program that was 5-5 and in three years has made a pwoer house program. Going 8-2 his first year then a Co-Championship team to a Outright Championship team. Brought this team to the schools FIRST playoff game in there 71 year history. Jim in my eye's is a D-I coach and will be so in the near future. He has had his teams in the nations best catagories, rushing, total offense, sacks etc.  His recruiting for a school in a "no mans land" has been excellent. (ex. he gets recriuts out of Detroit, where BU can't get out of Chicago next door).

#2 COACH OF THE YEAR "Coach Hehman-Greenville. This NEW coach has taken a program from NOTHING to one of the Conferences TOP TEAMS. I the four years of following this program I have seen a team blossom into a contender. This team has been putting a licking on team the used to blow them out. Look for Greenville in the top (2) next year!!!!!!!!

TEAM OF THE YEAR- LAKELAND

MOST IMPROVED TEAM OF THE YEAR- GREENVILLE

MOST DISAPPOINTING TEAM OF THE YEAR-Mac MURRY

TEAMS ON THE RISE-GREENVILLE, BU

Again some may or may not agree, THESE ARE MY PICKS BASEDON MY OPINION FROM WHAT I SAW THIS YEAR!

Good luck to all IBFC teams this weekend.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: maddog8 on November 05, 2005, 09:15:27 am
Trucountry95, I do agree that Greenville is on the rise but rest asure LAKELAND comes in and walks out without an issue. Greenville is not at their level just yet. Lakeland by 5 TD's. Can't make the game so let me know how close I was. Had to work today unfortunately, otherwise I would have drove from Detroit down there.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: maddog8 on November 05, 2005, 09:37:31 am
"MADDOG'S" TOP PLAYERS to CHOOSE from for PLAYER of the YEAR!!!!!

OFFENSE;
RYAN MAIURI---------------QB-------------LAKELAND
BYRON VANDELAN---------OL-------------LAKELAND
IMMANUUEAL MILLS-------RB-------------CUW


DEFENSE;
BOBBY LANGSTON---------DL--------------CUW
DAVID BENTON-------------DL--------------LAKELAND
RYAN VAN DE LOO---------LB--------------LAKELAND
ROBBIE PERRY-------------DB--------------AU


PLEASE VOTE!!!!
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: d3ftball1 on November 05, 2005, 10:32:32 am
Maddog

If your near a computer at work you can listen to the game online at the Greenville web page. All the games are broadcast by two students when they are home or away. I'll be heading to the game in alittle bit if you need help finding the site let me know.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: maddog8 on November 05, 2005, 10:47:37 am
d3football1, problem all the computers don't have speakers here. guess I will have to hope GCFan keeps posting the quarter scores. I'd like to see how they are doing on offense and defense. thanks for the update.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: gc_fan on November 05, 2005, 02:38:09 pm
At the end of the 1st Quarter - Lakeland 7 Greenville 0
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: TruCountry95 on November 05, 2005, 03:21:25 pm
At Halftime Lakeland 7 Greenville -0

Apparently Greenville can play at LC's level. The only level Lakeland is different on is when it comes to the playoffs and Lakeland is going home with a 5 TD loss!
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Gomer Pyle on November 05, 2005, 04:02:01 pm
 Just to echo..............LC-7   Greenville-0 at the half.
      Another half to go.........you never know.
    Anybody gets a 3rd and 4th quarter score .......................post it.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: TruCountry95 on November 05, 2005, 04:11:56 pm
End of 3rd quarter    Lakeland   Greenville-0
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: gc_fan on November 05, 2005, 04:36:47 pm
Lakeland 14 - Greenville 7 - with 4:03 left in regulation
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: gc_fan on November 05, 2005, 05:05:37 pm
Final score - Lakeland 20 - Greenville 13

Despite the loss you got to give props to Greenville for hanging in with Lakeland.  As Maddog said earlier today, Greenville has definetly improved and they should be near the top in the conference next year.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: gc_fan on November 05, 2005, 05:06:47 pm
Greenville does have one more game next week at home against Washington University from St. Louis
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: TruCountry95 on November 05, 2005, 05:21:04 pm
End of game Lakeland-20   Greenville-13

Good game overall. Lakeland demostrated as they have demostrated all year long, their ability to play with absolute zero class or sportsmanship. Lakeland racked up late hit penalties as well as unsportsmanlike conduct. This is why Lakeland deserves to be beat into the ground once they enter the payback land of Playoffs. Once Lakeland gets pummeled in the playoffs maybe the leason will sink in that late hits, unsportsmanlike conduct and post-game extra-curricular activities (during the tradition hand-shake), are not necessary and it does nothing but demolish a programs rep as well as it's student athletes.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Gomer Pyle on November 05, 2005, 06:16:00 pm
End of game Lakeland-20   Greenville-13

Good game overall. Lakeland demostrated as they have demostrated all year long, their ability to play with absolute zero class or sportsmanship. Lakeland racked up late hit penalties as well as unsportsmanlike conduct. This is why Lakeland deserves to be beat into the ground once they enter the payback land of Playoffs. Once Lakeland
gets pummeled in the playoffs maybe the leason will sink in that late hits, unsportsmanlike conduct and post-game extra-curricular activities (during the tradition hand-shake), are not necessary and it does nothing but demolish a programs rep as well as it's student athletes.

 If i`m not mistaken LC is the most penalized team or second most (as per the IBFC site) in the conference.
  Sounds like GC was not intimidated by Lakeland
   and gave them all they could handle.
   I wonder what the lakeland folks will have to say about it?  I sure hope they don`t blame it on everything under the sun.  Looking forward to the reasons why. 
   After storming through the IBC and on the verge of an NCAA play-off game they(LC) could have played their worst game of the year or Greenville  is a must better team then most believe.  What do you Think?
  One last comment. Looking at the D3 Top 25 yesterday  i didn`t see LC listed. Looked at the "also
  rans" and didn`t see then listed.  Do all the pollsters know something?? Apparently so.
 

   
 
       
 
 
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: aufb05 on November 05, 2005, 08:31:02 pm
I said it early on Greenville is no walk in the park. That said LAKE is  our representative in the play offs and we should support their efforts. 

AU-21 Mac-14 Final
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: baseman201 on November 05, 2005, 09:07:14 pm
That's true, Lakeland is our representative in the playoffs, so good luck to them in 2 weeks.  And I was going to say that Maddogg was going to pick mostly Lakeland players, which he did.  Although if my son played at a school, I would pick him, and all the team as well for an "all conference" team. 

Well, as I said good luck to Lakeland.  I have a bet with my friend that the IBFC team to go to the playoffs will lose by 25+ points.  I want some free Taco Bell,  don't let me down Lakeland............ok, it would be cool to win a playoff game for the IBFC.  But hey, free Taco Bell sounds good too.

Awesome game today with BU and CURF.  went to Overtime.  Best game I have seen in awhile.

I am out.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Big_Uns on November 05, 2005, 10:40:17 pm
End of game Lakeland-20   Greenville-13

Good game overall. Lakeland demostrated as they have demostrated all year long, their ability to play with absolute zero class or sportsmanship. Lakeland racked up late hit penalties as well as unsportsmanlike conduct. This is why Lakeland deserves to be beat into the ground once they enter the payback land of Playoffs. Once Lakeland
gets pummeled in the playoffs maybe the leason will sink in that late hits, unsportsmanlike conduct and post-game extra-curricular activities (during the tradition hand-shake), are not necessary and it does nothing but demolish a programs rep as well as it's student athletes.

 If i`m not mistaken LC is the most penalized team or second most (as per the IBFC site) in the conference.
  Sounds like GC was not intimidated by Lakeland
   and gave them all they could handle.
   I wonder what the lakeland folks will have to say about it?  I sure hope they don`t blame it on everything under the sun.  Looking forward to the reasons why. 
   After storming through the IBC and on the verge of an NCAA play-off game they(LC) could have played their worst game of the year or Greenville  is a must better team then most believe.  What do you Think?
  One last comment. Looking at the D3 Top 25 yesterday  i didn`t see LC listed. Looked at the "also
  rans" and didn`t see then listed.  Do all the pollsters know something?? Apparently so.
 

   
 
       
 
 

Well well.  Lakeland wins without class eh?  Just because Lakeland plays with intensity on both sides of the ball (which, by the way, wins league championships and playoff births) you say they play dirty.  Sounds to me like everyone is having sour grapes.

Another thing.  Lakeland is not in the Top 25 or others mentioned for one reason.  This conference suxs.  plain and simple.  Your telling me that a conference that has never had a playoff win.  Then I wonder why we get not even a notice.  Lakeland cannot be at fault for everyone else being so terrible.  Nothing they can do about that.  IT HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH HOW MANY PENALITIES a team gets in a season.  Last time I looked at a stat sheet, it didnt differentiate between personal fouls and holding/facemask calls.   ::)

Lakeland has the best chance in this lowly conference to even make a playoff showing this year, and everyone here has to know that.  Ben, Greenville, AU, MAC, and CUW are ok or on the verge of getting there one day.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Warrior_Fish on November 05, 2005, 10:41:57 pm
That last post was mine.  Big_Uns, next time remember to log off my computer!!!
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: aufb05 on November 06, 2005, 09:21:05 am
Warrior Fish-

You must be a fan with limited knowledge of the IBFC Teams.

QUOTE:
"Ben, Greenville, AU, MAC, and CUW are ok or on the verge of getting there one day."

AU has been to the dance and back - Last yr. against No. 6 Wooster - 41-34, All American RB Sutton was the difference.

Best of luck to the LAKE in the playoffs - Fish don't give up your day job.






Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: maddog8 on November 06, 2005, 09:54:55 am
Baseman101, you sound like an idiot, first I pick who I FEEL are the best players. and because of the HOGS my son is among the best, NOT because I think so. In addition can anyone with REAL football sense NOT baseball sense, disagree with my player of the year picks NoT ALL LAKELAND PLAYERS. As for my 1st and 2nd units YOU will be surprised at my picks. If I were a coach this would be my TEAM. Second for all thoughs out there Greenville is FOR REAL. I didn't have to go to the game to realize that. As for Cheapshot, WELL I WAS LISTENING ON THE INTERNET AND YOUR COMMENTATORS SAID THAT GREENVILLE WAS TAKING CHEAPSHOTS ON THE QB AND GETTING RUFING THE PASSER PENALTIES. Unless he was making a mistake. Sooner or later people have to realize also that the MUSKIES are already for REAL. Greenville is the most improved team in the conference, I will agree to that. Now everyone SHOULD support the IBFC CHAMPS for the playoffs. My teams will be out next week!
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Gomer Pyle on November 06, 2005, 10:21:22 am
Maddog8:  Just like last year except this time your "selections" aren`t even up yet and your catching flak.  So it goes in the life of a
  prognosticator or as John Paul Jones said," full
  speed ahead.....damn the torpedos."
 Look at it this way, if other folks want to put up "their" all IBC team....have at it. 
   
   
 
 
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Gomer Pyle on November 06, 2005, 10:40:17 am
Warrior Fish-

You must be a fan with limited knowledge of the IBFC Teams.

QUOTE:
"Ben, Greenville, AU, MAC, and CUW are ok or on the verge of getting there one day."

AU has been to the dance and back - Last yr. against No. 6 Wooster - 41-34, All American RB Sutton was the difference.

Best of luck to the LAKE in the playoffs - Fish don't give up your day job.

 aufb05: You are correct in what you said but i`d like to add: MacMurray rolled throught the IBFC in
  2001 and 2002 winning "not" sharing the Championship with anybody. By doing so they also played in 2 NCAA play-off games( back to back years.) They led Thomas Moore Into the final seconds but lost on a well thrown pass into the end zone.  The other loss was a blow out to Wabash.
  You right about the "Know your history of the IBFC."
  Opinions are just that......opinions but facts are
  indisputable!
 
   







Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: aufb05 on November 06, 2005, 12:31:02 pm
Gomer-

Your right MAC has been to the dance. I wasn't trying to make AU stand out, just trying to make a point to Fish.

PS - just noticed your a starter, congrats!
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: grover1728 on November 06, 2005, 03:32:29 pm
Maddog -

As for your player of the year nominations defensively, I would have to say that you put Jerral Davidson on the list before you put Robbie Perry up there.  Davidson and #8 from CUW were by far the toughest corners to go up against this year.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Gomer Pyle on November 06, 2005, 05:09:22 pm
Gomer-

Your right MAC has been to the dance. I wasn't trying to make AU stand out, just trying to make a point to Fish.

PS - just noticed your a starter, congrats!

  aufbo5:  No offense taken.  Just wanted to give Mac their dues. Plus, let people know who was the power a few years ago. Some of the guys who post on here forget some times who did what and when.
 Goes to being .....informed.
  A STARTER you say.  Going on 5 yrs and i`ve made the "big" time. Thanks for pointing that out.
  Just one other "give them their dues" Con,W and Aurora were also great teams in the past. 
   
 
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: aufb05 on November 06, 2005, 05:39:10 pm
Maddog-

Sent my AU picks for the all Maddog team to your e-mail address.


Gomer-

Youir right, LAKE is joining some good company. Nice win for BEN but a hellava game for CUR. I'm bringing my boom-box to their stadium next your. What's FB without motoviating music.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: fishguy on November 06, 2005, 06:12:40 pm
Maddog -

As for your player of the year nominations defensively, I would have to say that you put Jerral Davidson on the list before you put Robbie Perry up there.  Davidson and #8 from CUW were by far the toughest corners to go up against this year.

I'd agree big time on Davidson - he was the lone bright spot for Aurora in an otherwise forgettable trip to Lakeland this season. He went toe to toe with Lakeland's receive White and had some great defensive plays.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: grover1728 on November 07, 2005, 12:20:10 am
aufb05 -

I don't know about that boom-box.  We had our pre-game music this week, but get this, some neighbors called the police because the "fans were too loud".  The RF police just dismissed the call, but seriously, Concordia needs to put a foot down when it comes to stuff like that.  It is a college, and no matter what the community feels, they need to realize that CURF provides them with great facilities that are open to the public and that CURF does have college athletics, which will not change.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: fsufan on November 07, 2005, 12:46:13 am
CURF's Neighborhood 8)
The school provides much to the surrounding area but the big homes and people that live in them give little if anything back.  I asked the head coach why no night lighting (the people aroud the school say it will br too bright and cause too much traffic).  GO figure.  Until the school admin. gets stronger in their community relations CURF will continue to be treated like a second class cousin that has overstayed their welcome.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: maddog8 on November 07, 2005, 04:47:25 am
Guys was Davidson #2 because I would have to agree with you then. Without looking at the rooster I thaought Perry was #2?. If this was Davidson then I would add him to the list, but with Perry being a preseason all american he deserves to be there. He was AU's bright spot last year as were others.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: maddog8 on November 07, 2005, 04:50:22 am
I will add that Davidson and CUW's 8 were on the 1st team "D" but unfortunately I can't catch every athlete in action that is why I suggested some feed back from all of you fans. I do think I am not far off the true IBFC list for my selections. Last year I think I was off by 2 players. Thanks in part to Bobby Langston for his help.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Gomer Pyle on November 07, 2005, 08:34:01 am
 Perry from AU had a really good season last year and a good season this year.
  He`s tied for 4th in the conference for INt`s and
  19th in tackes (as per the IBFC site)
   That being said , you can see there are other guys with better stats. Who are proving their worth
 to their teams. Not to say he hasn`t. but they`re stats are better.
   His "pre-season" selection does not automatically put him first in line for anything.
    Lets not let "Projection" over shadow performance it`s not the way to go.
   Maddog said in part," he deserves to be there."
   I just happen to disagree.
   No disrespect intended.
   
   
  .
   
   
   
   
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: grover1728 on November 07, 2005, 09:07:18 am
Maddog -

Yeah, Davidson was #2.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: aufb05 on November 07, 2005, 09:33:42 am
Grover1728-

I've been to CUR several times. The College should buy out some of those homes on the North side of the field and buffer the field with additional parking.

RF residents are toads - buy next to an airport and expect planes, buy next to a college football stadium and expect opera??? DA
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: aufb05 on November 07, 2005, 09:46:12 am
Current AU "D" Leaders after 9 games

                     Solo     Assists     Sacks     Pass Def.
1. Dentino       28         24           5             0
2. Perry          27         25           0             3
3. Tate           20         32           1            0
4. Davidson     28           7           0            3

All great ballplayers!!
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: d3ftball1 on November 07, 2005, 10:28:32 am
Current Greenville D leaders after 8 games


                               Solo   Asst    Sacks  Broken up  Interceptions
1 J R Harriel              36       46      4            2
2 Barton Davis          31       31      1            1
3 Russell Reece         28       17      8            1
4 Reggie Anthony     24        18      2            1
5 Mark Schopp           23        7                     8                   4

Reggie Anthony also leads the conf in punting. 
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Gomer Pyle on November 07, 2005, 10:34:49 am
Current AU "D" Leaders after 9 games

                     Solo     Assists     Sacks     Pass Def.
1. Dentino       28         24           5             0
2. Perry          27         25           0             3
3. Tate           20         32           1            0
4. Davidson     28           7           0            3

All great ballplayers!!

  aufb05: not questioning your statement." all are great ballplayers."
    Rather the order  in which you have them listed.  A friendly  question at that.
  I just looked at the AU "D" leaders site and saw the following
   (1) Dentino
    (2) Perry
   ( 3) Tate
    (4) Whalen
    (5) Davidson.
    That is Nov 5th information.
    Are my eyes deceiving me? If i`m in error, my
    apologies.
  
  
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: aufb05 on November 07, 2005, 12:33:47 pm
Gomer- This is why your a starter and I'm not ;D

AU revised "D" leaders as of 11/5

                       Solo     Assists    Sacks    Pass Def.
1. Dentino       32       26            7           0
2. Perry          31       27            0           3
3. Tate           21       35            1           0
4. Walen         21       27            0           0
5. Davidson     29       8              0           4
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: sotha sil on November 07, 2005, 01:49:59 pm
Guys you should look at from CUW

Mills and Langston are a given.  Mills probably player of the year in the conference.

Ryan Robers and Nick Drabek OL
Wilbur Allen DL- has a great shot at being team DL of the year 8 solo sacks and lead the DL in tackles
Rick Hutchins #24- 8 ints this season
Jon Collier Mike Stienmetz WR- Stienmetz might be a special teams guy to look at

If you want to had some hardnose players that do not always get the ball Aaron Gillespie #4 and Matt Meyer #14- #4 is only 5'8 and doesn't weigh a whole lot but iso blocks for Mills and IS pound for pound the best blocker in the league. #14 is a WR who is called on for first down catches and along with Collier, asked to block on the edge for a lot of the long developing plays. #14 is the best blocking WR
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: maddog8 on November 07, 2005, 02:37:29 pm
excellent feedback guys thanks and keep them coming, so far only 2 players I did'nt already have on my list but that helps because again I couldn't notice everyone.  Tomorrow is the last day I will recieve nominee's Wed. will post 3rd team, Thurs, 2nd team and Friday the FIRST TEAM ALL MADDOG.  Last I will post my MADDOG PLAYER OF THE YEAR. This is my pick with no help, sorry.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Gomer Pyle on November 07, 2005, 03:00:28 pm
Gomer- This is why your a starter and I'm not ;D

AU revised "D" leaders as of 11/5

                       Solo     Assists    Sacks    Pass Def.
1. Dentino       32       26            7           0
2. Perry          31       27            0           3
3. Tate           21       35            1           0
4. Walen         21       27            0           0
5. Davidson     29       8              0           4

 aufb05:   :o   
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Gomer Pyle on November 07, 2005, 03:03:54 pm
aufb05: I was looking for this ;D not this :o :o
   looks like i`d better leave these things alone. LOL
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: TruCountry95 on November 07, 2005, 06:53:07 pm
I don't know if this is how I'm suppose post my nominations for All Maddog Team but here ya go maddog

1st Team Offense                           1st Team Defense
1. RB. CUW-- Mills                           1. LC-David Benton
2. QB. LC --- Ryan Mauiri                 2. GC- Jr. Harriel
3. WR. GC---Jon DeJulio                  3. MAC- Larry Pirollo
4. WR. LC--White                            4. CUW-Rick Hutchins
5. RB. MAC-Peter Ereg                     5. GC Mark Schopp
 
Special Teams- Reggie Anthony

2nd and 3rd teams could maybe include

QB-CUW Justin Lewis, QB-AU Andrew Hunrung
WR-GC Bryson Taylor, WR-CUW Mike Steinmetz

Defense
GC-Barton Davis, LC Ryan Vandaloo, EUREKA-Siji Moore, LC-Brent Miller

Alot of good athletes in the IBFC in 05. Next year should be a great year for the programs on the rise.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: gc_fan on November 07, 2005, 08:11:08 pm
Maddog - here is a possible nomination for the D-line from Greenville - Russell Reese here is what he has as of 8 games.....
28 Tackles - 17 Ast - 36.5 total
11.5 tackles for loss
8.5 sacks
1 blocked kick
1 safety
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: gc_fan on November 07, 2005, 08:44:14 pm
Maddog - I know there are a lot of good CB's in the conference, here is one other person who you should look at for one of your teams.....Mark Schopp, from Greenville.

as of 8 games - 26.5 tackles
4 Interceptions including 1 returned for a TD
8 passes broken up
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: grover1728 on November 07, 2005, 08:46:42 pm
aufb05-

Curf used to own a bunch of property around the school, but 3 years ago the president at the time got the school into a huge amount of debt.  Sad to say, curf had to sell all the property to try and pay off debts.  Now we have a new president, but its going to be some time before we get to where we used to be
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Bondtec on November 07, 2005, 09:23:26 pm
Maddog:

Haven't heard a lot about the place kickers.  That's where my experience is.  Have watched the majority of the place kickers throughout the year in Illini-Badger conference.

I base my nomination on many things since kickers are at the mercy of the team and coach's philosophy as to how many kicks they get in any one game.  I observed pre-game warmups (most kickers come out before the regular squad) and am able to get a good grasp of leg strength and accuracy of each kicker.  Points for the team are important but the kickers don't have a lot of say in whether or not a kicking play will be called.  That's why I watch the warmups to see how accurate they kick, how often through the uprights and the distance on practice field goals and kickoffs. 

Based on this, my nominations for your all-star team are as follows:

#1 - Greenville, Kyle Sanniec - he has the strongest and most accurate leg I saw this season.  Overall he's the most accurate on all of his kick attempts - PATs and field goals combined.  He's very accurate with his on-side kicks.  Stats for this season:  PATs 22/25 (87%); FG 3/4 (75%)

#2 - Concordia, Wisconsin, Kyle Mai - he is the points leader according to the IBFC and also handles their kickoffs.  Stats for this season:  PATs 25/30 (83%; FG 7/11 (64%).

#3 - Lakeland, Dan Lucchesi -  he is only a point behind  Mai in scoring (based on the latest info I have).   Stats for this season:  PATs 33/43 (77%); FG 4/4 (100%).

The IBFC seems to have a lot of good kickers but these are the three that stood out in my opinion.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Bondtec on November 07, 2005, 09:34:23 pm
Maddog:

Sorry, my stats were off, I made an error.  I indicated that Mai's PATs stats were 25/30 (83%).  Actually, it was 25/35 (71.4%). 

Just want to be as accurate as possible.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: uamusme on November 07, 2005, 10:37:38 pm
If you're going by stats I'd say you're right, but I do know that the LC kicker has had some troubles in the last 3-4 games...
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Soulsenda on November 08, 2005, 11:09:53 am
No love for any BU players huh...hmmmm
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: aufb05 on November 08, 2005, 12:30:05 pm
Soulsenda-
Its your turn - pony up some BEN nominations.


Maddog-
Your turning this Board into the real deal.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: TruCountry95 on November 08, 2005, 01:21:39 pm
Alright I got some news maybe it could be a rumor but who knows. Greenville is playing Wash U thi s Saturday. Should be a good game. Our defense should really stick it to their air attack offense. But heres the thing they have a reciever known as Brad Duesing. Duesing needs 82 yards in the season finale to become the second player in NCAA history (Division I, II or III) to record four consecutive 1,000-yard receiving seasons. He also moved into eighth in Division III history with 272 catches. The player he is trying to get this record over is Jerry Rice . The rumor is ESPN is going to be at the game Saturday. That would be great for GC and for maybe the whole conf. D3 Football will be down here Saturday we also heard in case Brad breaks the record. One problem GC has Mark Schopp! Last year Mark Schopp went against Brad and Wash U switched to the middle of the field away from Mark.  Mark Schopp is ready, I'm sure that Brad Duesing is ready, so Saturday should be awesome here in Greenville!
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: aufb05 on November 08, 2005, 01:50:46 pm
Tru Country-

What do think would be bigger news - Duesing setting the record or GRN's "D" stopping it.  Can't make the trip - so will the game be on webcast?
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: gc_fan on November 08, 2005, 01:59:30 pm
aufb05 - The Greenville radio station will be broadcasting the game over the web:http://www.wgrn.net/listen/listenmedia.html
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: DeanCooper on November 08, 2005, 02:06:18 pm
Concordia University River Forest is currently looking for a new Head Football Coach as well as a new Ahtletic Director as of November 8, 2005.  

The former Head Coach Robert Conwell was the Head coach for the past two seasons, under his reigns the Cougars finished 0-20 (the last game against Benedictine was probably the best game, but again the Cougars fell in OT). It should be noted that prior to his position as Head Coach he served as the Defensive Coordinator under Head Coach Jeffrey Hynes for the 2003 season and the Cougar Defense finished 3rd in the conference.  Before the 2003 season Coach Jeff Hynes had been the head coach for the Lakeland Muskies.  CURF had offered the head coach position to Hynes atleast two times before he finally accepted the the postion in January of 2003.  The Cougars finished 2-8 under Hynes and snapped another long losing streak. So since the Cougars were so wonderful by winning two games the school promoted Hynes to Dean of Students July 7, 2004.  

Meanwhile CURF had hired Timothy Betustak to serve as the Athletic Director.  Betustak came from Aurora where he also coached football but previously coordinated the Cougars offense under Head Coach Brian Baker-Watson (predicessor to Hynes and currently the offensive coordinator at Benedictine who ironically defeated the Cougars in Conwell's last game). More irony precedes in Cougar history... Under Betustak's direction the Cougar Gridder offense was not very productive (resulting in zero wins in 2002) but CURF believed Mr. Betustak would be capable to coordinate the entire Athletic Department in the right direction.  

So Conwell was promoted to Head Coach in mid July but retained the Offensive Coordinator Theodore Smith.  What a great job CURF did to give Conwell ample time to hire assistants since there was none hired.  To say the least the Conwell and Smith did not see eye to eye.  Following the 2004 season (Cougars 0-10) Smith was released.  During the winter months Conwell developed cancer and the two coordinator positions were still open.  Thanks and praise to God the Conwell has overcome his battle with cancer and is healthy again.  When he recovered he tried to hire a few new coaches at which the school did not approve.  The process was long and drawn out but eventually new coordinators were not hired until mid-spring football practice and much was in disarray.  Coach Todd Black a former Cougar All-American was made co-offensive coordinator but he resigned after the Eureka game in 2005 in which the Cougs lost.  

Now the Cougars finished 2005 0-10 without many players due to ineligibility and other factors. The Cougars are again coachless and some might wonder who made the decisions to release Mr. Betustak and Coach Conwell.....Dean Jeffrey Hynes.  Look for another exciting off-season for the Concordia Cougars where the music can't be played loud and the players should stay in the dark.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: baseman201 on November 08, 2005, 03:17:11 pm
Sad day to be a Cougar.

We are looking at getting our 4th head coach in as many years, we can't have lights because of the yippy neighborhood, and the music cannot be played because of the disruption it would cause.  What in the hell is happening over here?? 

I can see why CURF hasn't had a successful program in like 20 years.  All hell is breaking loose over here.  We can't keep a head coach for more than 1 season, we can't keep players for more than 1 season, we can't recruit because there are no coaches placed in time to do so.  It's looking horrible.

Hopefully the new head coach has something up his sleeve, because he is going to have to work his ASS off to get this program back to the way it was in the mid 1980's.  Recruiting was a problem this year since Conwell was in the hospital for a majority of it, plus coaching positions were unfilled to help out.

Hopefully the next coach will stick around for more than a year and bring in some talent.  It doesn't have to be right away, maybe get a few more recruits for 2006, a few more for 2007.  And step by step we can have a respectable program, but it won't happen overnight, it will take some time. 

And GROVER, what affiliation do you have with CURF???  Just wondering since you pertained to CURF as "WE" in one post.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: aufb05 on November 08, 2005, 04:17:57 pm
On the bright side BASEMAN it could be a great opportunity for someone who has goals, can stay focused and wants to spend the time at developing a creditable college football program.

CUR biggest challege won't be finding a coach, rather convinving players to be part of their FB program as well as convincing the Administration to support it.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: uamusme on November 08, 2005, 04:42:05 pm

CUR biggest challege won't be finding a coach, rather convinving players to be part of their FB program as well as convincing the Administration to support it.


What CURF needs is a coach to make the players buy in and believe that they will make a difference. A great coach can change the perceptions of his team around the school by making the students proud to be a part of the team and the school.

That's made all the difference at Lakeland, under Hynes the team was losing support all around the school. I'm not saying it's his fault, however once Zebrowski came in, he brought a different attitude to the program which in turn reflected extremely positively upon the team.

The players were encouraged but not forced to volunteer in the community, through the Boys and Girls clubs acting as lunch buddies or many like myself when I played would read to K-3 students on friday afternoons.

Though things like that the faculty and staff started to buy into the program, started showing up to the home games, and now I would have to say other than with the exception of the Greenville away games we probably travel best in the conference. (I could be overstating, but not too many fans other than CUW seem to travel much unless they are parents.)
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Gomer Pyle on November 08, 2005, 05:05:59 pm
 Dean Cooper... baseman201:
   Awhile back i said something to the effect that some schools have a football team(for show) while others (with the backing of the school admin) put forth the effort in selecting a coaching staff that
  can recruit, field a competitive team and challenge
 for the conference title.
  Look at Mount union, Wash U just to name a couple.
  My point is, no admin backing...you`ve got a CUR.
  It looks like until the "suits" get on board CUR will field a team just for show.
  I`m not raggin on CUR just giving my opinion.
  

  
 
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Big_Uns on November 08, 2005, 05:11:48 pm
I agree completely with uamusme's statements. While Hynes was at Lakeland, you could hear the grumbling throughout the campus. With Zebrowski there, you don't hear it. You hear positive things about the program. It's not as if Lakeland needed rebuilding talent-wise when Hynes left, it's that they needed some charisma, and Zebrowski brought that to the program.

If I were the new coach at CURF, I'd seriously go door to door around the neighborhood promoting my program and the school. This is a hell of an undertaking but seriously, when there's so much community backlash, there's not much else you can do.

At Lakeland it seems easy to do because your community is a stalk of corn, but even so the community outreach has been incredible. Give your program a good name despite its futility, and people will recognize you not as a laughing stock anymore. The least they could do is give it a shot. It seems as if this situation is so far against CURF, that they need to start from square one.

I don't exactly know what CURF does around the community, but it seems like they've got a bad name for themselves. There's a lot more to having a good school and fielding a successful football program than just what you do on the field, and I think everything is working against CURF right now.

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As for nominations for the All-Maddog Team, here are mine:

QB - Ryan Maiuri, LC; Andrew Hornung, AU, Shaun Manning, EC
RB - Immanuel Mills, CUW; Peter Ereg, MAC
WR/TE - Joe Sergo, BU; Terry Martin, MAC; MacArthur White, LC
OL - Pick any from LC or CUW

DL - David Benton, LC; Russell Reece, GC; Bobby Langston, CUW; Wilbur Allen, CUW
LB - Ryan Van De Loo, LC; J.R. Harriel, GC; John Wagner, LC; Larry Pirollo, MAC
DB - Rick Hutchins, CUW; Jerral Davidson, GC

K - Kyle Sanniec, GC
P - Reggie Anthony, GC


Offensive POY - Ryan Maiuri, LC. I gotta hand it to your son Maddog, he's the only player in the IBC who can beat you with his arm or his feet at any moment.

Defensive POY - David Benton, LC. This guy is an animal. I remember the one game where he outran his own cornerback to tackle the runner. Outrageous strength, speed, and ability. Not to mention he's smart on the field, noted by him staying home on a screen play to intercept the pass and return it for a touchdown.


Gotta give props to Greenville, though. They've got the defense and special teams to compete for sure.

It was a great year in the IBC. Best of luck especially to CURF and to our playoff representative Lakeland.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: d3ftball1 on November 08, 2005, 05:40:05 pm
big uns,

For your DB's   Jerral Davidson is not from GV.  I'm not sure who he plays for but its not Greenville.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Gomer Pyle on November 08, 2005, 06:26:06 pm
big uns,

For your DB's   Jerral Davidson is not from GV.  I'm not sure who he plays for but its not Greenville.

  Jerral Davidson plays for Aurora. On the IFBC
  stat site, it shows him tied for 22nd in tackles.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Soulsenda on November 08, 2005, 06:55:23 pm
Im not gonna go position for position bc I dont know everyone's names correctly.   Players who stood out in my mind .  The DE from Conc Wis #92 was a beast.  Very underrated was the corner from Lakeland.  I havent seen much talk of him but he played me the hardest this yr I thought as well as the best out of every team.  Tate from AU is a good ball player.  That Harriel kid from GRNV  has great game speed and gets to the ball.  Offensively I won't say much.  The QB from Lakeland was good and who hasnt gotten any credit was the tall kid from GRNV.  He might not have numbers but he threw a real nice ball.  Mills is hands down one of best RB's.  FB I have to say you have to give some credit to BU's Ben James.  The kid had a nice season and Im sure there are a few safeties who had his footprints on their chest but I wont name anyone.  He also had a few 100 yd games at FB.  QB for BU had a decent yr and will improve alot this off season Id look out for him.  As far as O line, Curf's O line was not terrible, actually effective at times and their QB has always been an athlete.  BU's O line, 4soph and 1Frosh did have a good job moving when the running game was working.  I cant name everyone but this yr was my fav yr as a IBFC football player and I hope next yr it continues.  Im sure I left a few out and as I go on Ill name more.  also, DE Henry Barton from BU was a good playmaker.  The whole BU defense for that matter improved greatly and had it not been for 3 IBFC games to start(Carthage, North Central, and Elmhurst), BU's stats as far as in the IBFC totals for the yr would be alot betta, but thats still no excuse.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: TruCountry95 on November 08, 2005, 08:28:32 pm
 I think this is kinda how it plays out this year in the overall look of things. What you guys think?                     
       
Offensive Overall- #1 Lakeland, #2 CUW, #3-GC, #4-AU
Defensive Overall- #1 Greenville, #2 LC, #3 CUW, #4 MAC

Best O-Line: #1-CUW, #2-LC, #3-GC, #4-AU, #5-BEN
Best D-Line: #1-GC, #2 LC, #CUW, #4 AU,



Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: uamusme on November 09, 2005, 01:17:49 am
I think this is kinda how it plays out this year in the overall look of things. What you guys think?                     
       
Offensive Overall- #1 Lakeland, #2 CUW, #3-GC, #4-AU
Defensive Overall- #1 Greenville, #2 LC, #3 CUW, #4 MAC

Best O-Line: #1-CUW, #2-LC, #3-GC, #4-AU, #5-BEN
Best D-Line: #1-GC, #2 LC, #CUW, #4 AU,


I dunno, I didn't get to see GC this year, but I'd still go with Lakeland's D-line over GC's

Yeah I'm a little biased being from LC... I wish i could have been at the game with greenville... i was only like 2 hours away in meetings all weekend. I would have been able to make a better judgment, so I'm just going from what I saw.

Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: maddog8 on November 09, 2005, 05:31:47 am
Everyone you guys are true fans of the game. excellent choices, Big Uns, did you see my sheet you have alot of my picks on this site as do others. Forgive me but the"ALL MADDOG TEAM" HAS TO BE POST PONED FOR A FEW DAYS. Something has come up and will take my time away.  There were so many standout this year from ALL team, I just don't want to leave anyone who is deserving out. Again thanks for your selections, Will make for a good team. Could you fans send me the school addresses on my personal e-mail, I have something for the "ALL MADDOG TEAM" selecties.  Again thanks for an exciting year in the IBFC, you guys are great. 'GO MUSKIES'
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Gomer Pyle on November 09, 2005, 07:26:26 am
  Selections for this week-ends games (Nov 12th)
   (1)  Aurora vs Valparaiso....... Valparaiso
    (2) Eureka vs Chicago...........Chicago
    (3) Wash U vs Greenville......  Wash U
    (4) Mac vs Blackburn............ MacMurray
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: d3ftball1 on November 09, 2005, 07:59:04 am
Maddog

Your email is hidden so I don't know how to send you the school address. If you go to www.illinibadger.org under teams they have all the school addresses and web pages. Thats really nice of you to get something for all your selections! Good Luck in the playoffs.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: maddog8 on November 09, 2005, 08:24:47 am
maiurimartin@yahoo.com  to send info to MADDOG
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Gomer Pyle on November 09, 2005, 09:39:06 am
I think this is kinda how it plays out this year in the overall look of things. What you guys think?                     
       
Offensive Overall- #1 Lakeland, #2 CUW, #3-GC, #4-AU

Defensive Overall- #1 Greenville, #2 LC, #3 CUW, #4 MAC

Best O-Line: #1-CUW, #2-LC, #3-GC, #4-AU, #5-BEN
Best D-Line: #1-GC, #2 LC, #CUW, #4 AU,


I dunno, I didn't get to see GC this year, but I'd still go with Lakeland's D-line over GC's

Yeah I'm a little biased being from LC... I wish i could have been at the game with greenville... i was only like 2 hours away in meetings all weekend. I would have been able to make a better judgment, so I'm just going from what I saw.


 
 Guys, why guess? The IBFC site has all the information  there for ya.
   In some areas you will be surprised  who`s were.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Big_Uns on November 09, 2005, 10:50:10 am
big uns,

For your DB's   Jerral Davidson is not from GV.  I'm not sure who he plays for but its not Greenville.

  Jerral Davidson plays for Aurora. On the IFBC
  stat site, it shows him tied for 22nd in tackles.

Yeah my bad. I knew that too. He may not have the tackles but he's got shut down potential and was the lone bright spot of that AU/LC game with an interception. Without a couple of his plays things could've been even worse for AU that day.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: aufb05 on November 09, 2005, 10:51:12 am
Gomer-

A agree with 2 of your picks - MAC & Eureka

However....
AU over Valpo
GRN over Wash U

A nice end to the IBFC season. Valpo is playing D4 ball with mostly Freshmen - GRN is going to prove that they are going to be the team to beat in 2006. 

That said I can't believe the season is over. As for the "Board" it started off a little tentative this yr. with Pongo and his ugly stepbrother D3Somebody but then matured into a interesting discussion on FB.

Maddog gets my vote for Poster of the Year. He encouraged a lot of good discussion from 1st time posters.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Gomer Pyle on November 09, 2005, 12:49:06 pm
aufb05: other "guesses" are more than welcomed.
   Course late saturday or early sunday morning we`ll know for sure who did what.
  If you hear something ref games scores...........post it...... or anybody else for that matter.
   
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: 7400 on November 09, 2005, 01:47:33 pm
OK I AM NEW TO THIS BUT I HAD TO SIGN UP WHEN DEANCOOPER POSTED ALL THAT STUFF ABOUT THE FOOTBALL TEAM OVER IN RIVER FOREST. FIRST I WOULD LIKE TO SAY THAT WHOEVER IT IS THAT POSTED THAT KNOWS ALOT OF DETAILS ABOUT THE SCHOOL AND MORE SO ABOUT DEAN HYNES. WHO WOULD KNOW HOW MANY TIMES HE WAS ASKED TO BE THE COACH AT CURF. I REALLY DONT WANT TO THINK IT WAS THE DEAM HIMSELF. LETS FACE IT HE IS THE DEAN OF STUDENTS AND SHOULD NOT WORRY HIMSELF ABOUT A WEBSITE. NOW THAT CONCORDIA HAS ANOTHER COACH IN AS MANY YEARS IT WILL BE VERY INTERESTING TO KNOW WHO GETS HIRED. I ALSO WONDER IF THE SEINORS TO BE WILL BE INVOLVED LIKE THEY DID WHEN J. HYNES WAS HIRED IN 2003. I BELEIVE THAT THE SCHOOL DOES NOT CARE FOR FOOTBALL AND IT IS A SHAME THAT EVERYSCHOOL IN THE CONFRENCE IS BETTER BUT WE ARE WORSE. IT SEEMS THAT THE WAY THE SCHOOL SHOWS IT CARES IS THAT EVERY FEW YEARS IT FIRES COACHES AND CLAMS THAT THIS A NEW BEGINNING AND THINGS ARE GOING TO CHANGE. WELL LETS HOPE SOMEONE UP THERE MEANS IT THIS TIME. A SCHOOL LIKE CUW IN THE MIDDLE OF NOWHERE PLOWS A TEAM WITH RICH RECRUTING LIKE CURF EVERY YEAR.  THAT NEEDS TO CHANGE AND YEAR TO YEAR COACHES DONT GET THAT DONE. LOYALTY IS SOMETHING NOT FOUND AT THIS SCHOOL. PLAYERS NEED TO BE SHOWN THAT THERE IS A REASON TO COME AND STAY AT THIS SCHOOL. WITH NEW FACES IN THE HOUSE EVERY YEAR THAT WILL NEVER HAPPEN.

WAKE UP CURF!!.... IT IS TIME TO CARE!!
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: FalconsFootball on November 09, 2005, 02:51:03 pm
I gotta say I lost respect for EC this weekend.  I thought it was admirable of them to show up every week even when the odds were stacked against them.  But to cancel the game at half was pretty rediculous.  It ruined a lot of seniors last game.  That was not the way you want your last game to go, to not even get the chance to knowingly walk of the field for the last time and get the ovation you deserve for all the hard work and dedication you have put in. 

The refs were over heard telling CUW's head coach that even if the lightening delay were up EC's players were not going to return to the field.

Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: uamusme on November 09, 2005, 03:50:02 pm
I gotta say I lost respect for EC this weekend.  I thought it was admirable of them to show up every week even when the odds were stacked against them.  But to cancel the game at half was pretty rediculous.  It ruined a lot of seniors last game.  That was not the way you want your last game to go, to not even get the chance to knowingly walk of the field for the last time and get the ovation you deserve for all the hard work and dedication you have put in. 

The refs were over heard telling CUW's head coach that even if the lightening delay were up EC's players were not going to return to the field.


Whoa, i think this is the first time we've heard of this

anyone care to elaborate more?
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: sotha sil on November 09, 2005, 03:58:11 pm
The Eurkea CUW game was called at half-time because of lighting. It was also made known that Eureka did not want to come out after the half already.  CUW scored everytime they had the ball.  The CUW's coach was not going to throw the ball anymore and actually was heard telling the punt return unit not to block the punt. 
The first series in the second half the seniors that start were gonna get pulled during a time out.  Then a lot of the guys that don't get a chance to play were going in.  A lot of parents were upset because it was going to be their kids chance to play.  I believe #9 actually walked off the field to the locker room after a TD. ( I am not totally sure it was #9) It was a bad situation for Eureka coaches. But, it does suck for a lot of young players wanting to get in and the seniors who wanted their last moment.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: baseman201 on November 09, 2005, 05:11:47 pm
to 7400-

Obviously you don't know much about what is going on here at CURF with the football program (or you could possibly find out soon what is going on).  If you haven't figured it out yet, I am affiliated with CURF in one way or another, just common sense on that one. 

Anyhow, here is the REAL deal.  The head coach and 2 other assistan coaches (plus the athletic director) were fired because the school wanted somone in there that could recruit players (there were other reasons, but this was a main one), and keep current ones from leaving.  Recruiting from the Lutheran school system is a HUGE part in getting quality players to play here.  I went to a Lutheran High school and many of my classmates went to the Concordias.  There are awesome athletes in the Lutheran school system, but Conwell never really attempted to recruit from there.  The problem was that he would try to recruit the top players in 4A, 5A, and the 6A schools.  It doesn't work that way when they are headed to the big D-I schools.  CURF and other small universities need to recruit from the small 1A, 2A, and 3A schools, and get good players from there.  No all conference player for a huge high school is going to come to a small private university, (or at least it's not likely).

Football is the biggest sport at most schools, and CURF didn't think that Conwell would bring them into the right direction that they wanted to be recruitment wise.  The administration wants us to win, and to be successful.  So saying the school doesn't care about the football team is completely rediculious and 100% untrue.  They care the most about the football team, and want someone who can get them to the next level.  The basketball, baseball, and soccer teams have all done a great job of recruiting, and the administration wants the football team to do the same, and they didn't think Conwell and the other coaches could deliver what they wanted. 

Sure, it's the 4th coach in 5 years.  They want to sign the next one to a multi year contract and get this thing going.  Look for a new coach as early as January, or possibly sooner.  The new football coach is a top priority for the admin.

and 7400, I know you have connections to CURF, probably go there, and possibly a player on the team.  You will find out what is going on soon enough.

And next time, don't type in all caps.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Big_Uns on November 09, 2005, 05:35:37 pm
As for the "Board" it started off a little tentative this yr. with Pongo and his ugly stepbrother D3Somebody but then matured into a interesting discussion on FB.

That gets my vote for funniest post of the year.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: curfgod on November 09, 2005, 06:08:56 pm
Here is the real story behind CURF.  Coach Conwell was the best recruiter the football prgram has had in a long time.  He recruited MOST of the football players at CURF, even when Dean Hynes was the head coach.  Coach Conwell was not able to recruit this past season because he was in the hospital for 6 weeks with cancer.  After almost losing this battle he came back to work instead of taking a leave of absence which he should have done.  But out of loyalty to his players and CURF he fought through his illness (which he still has) to return to CURF in April.  While he was gone there were no coaches on the staff to recruit.  He put his staff together and they brought in some decent freshmen players.  Dean Hynes, who is not a nice man, never cared about our program, was only concerned with self promotion, told us Coach Conwell was his guy.  How can you let your "guy" go after he is only on the job for 16 months, and has cancer.  Coach Conwell will be missed.  He is a good football coach that cared about his players.  Dean Hynes is a bad guy that will pass the buck and make excuses.  He ruined our program, not Coach Conwell.  I hope Dean Hynes feels like a hypocrite.  He certainly is not a Christian.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: zorbadagreek on November 09, 2005, 07:35:18 pm
I dont know what happened at CURF, but I personally know coach conwell and know that he is a class A act. It is unfortunate to see that someone of his caliber is not allowed to persue his passion and it is also unfortunate that he was given the ax coming off of something as serious as cancer. Concordia has never been a tradition rich school, but he would have been the guy to add tradition there had he been given another year or two! Shame on CURF, you let a good one go for very poor reasons! ???
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: footballfan05 on November 09, 2005, 09:26:49 pm
No good for Eureka to not play, same situation for BU twice this year and both games were finished including the last game of the year against CURF which meant nothing except to the players and fans. Its a shame that some players last game of their life was cut short like that.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: uamusme on November 09, 2005, 09:34:50 pm
No good for Eureka to not play, same situation for BU twice this year and both games were finished including the last game of the year against CURF which meant nothing except to the players and fans. Its a shame that some players last game of their life was cut short like that.

I dunno, if I were playing for Eureka, i might have like rebelled and tried to get other players to follow and play no matter what, especially if I were a senior...

Now that being said, did any seniors try and protest the decsion by the coaches?
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Mr. Ypsi on November 09, 2005, 09:51:09 pm
IF the Eureka-CUW game really ended the way it is alleged, shame on Eureka!  The coaches would deserve to be summarily fired, a formal apology tendered to all players who WOULD have seen action in the second half, and, assuming admission was charged, a full refund given to every spectator!

You DO not simply quit at halftime!  IF CUW had run up the score in the second half (but it sounds like they had no intention of doing so) then the shame would be on THEM, not Eureka!  This way, the shame is entirely Eureka's.

Perhaps the coaches could have agreed with a common hs rule for blow-outs - just keep the clock running, regardless of out-of-bounds, penalties, etc.  But QUITTING?  That is disgusting.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Big_Uns on November 09, 2005, 11:44:04 pm
I agree, so what if you have the reputation of being a losing team. Now Eureka went and tarnished the whole program as quitters.

The record defeat for all of college football is a 222-0 win by Georgia Tech over Cumberland if I remember correctly.

Maybe it's just me, but in my mind, this doesn't even compare to the embarrassment suffered when you walk out of the middle of a game.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: TruCountry95 on November 10, 2005, 12:03:24 am
Does anyone know anything bout Wash U. I went to their post page in the University Athletic Confm but all that page was talkin about was music and the band battles at the games or something. Nothin about football.
I think GC will beat Wash U this Saturday. Wash U reciever is going for that 82 yards for that big record (4 consecutive years with 1,000+ yards). But we have Mark Schopp and they should really match up well. I just think GC defense will stop Wash U. Plus Wash U more than likely expects the Greenville Panthers from last year. Good luck to all the teams this week.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: sica-sica on November 10, 2005, 12:31:04 am
baseman201,
                     what about all the 7a and 8a school. plenty more players to choose from than the small luthern schools.with all the good high school players in the chicagoland area,there is no reason they can`t recruit alot of them.there are plenty of good high school players that would go there if the recruiting was done right.look at all the other local college`s football programs.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: fball fan on November 10, 2005, 12:49:44 am
Ok, this is the first time i have ever typed on this message board. I play for the Eureka College Red Devils. i visit this site from time to time to listen to what people are saying around the conference. Lets get one thing straight Eureka was ready and willing to come out of that locker room. People are on here writing some B.S. and i couldn't believe my eyes as i read some of these posts. We the players were told that after a lighting strike, the teams must wait 30 minutes before resuming play. We were also told it gets dark at CUW's field at 4:30. I left the game field at 4:10 and there was still lighting. We waited with pads on for fifteen minutes to resume play before being told the game was being cancelled. As for number #9. He is a great kid and a great FRESHMAN player. He had a dispute with a coach and was asked to leave the field.
We came to that game with 32 healthy bodies (or at least able to play) and we would have finished the game with 11 players if we had to. This team was put in a hard situation, losing a coach half way through the summer, and having about a dozen quality players quit because of it. However, by an act of God we hired one of the best coaches i have ever had the honor of playing for. And i have never been more proud to be a part of a TEAM, than i am of this one. So before passing judgement and calling us quitters, take a walk in our shoes.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: curfalum on November 10, 2005, 12:52:22 am
It seems like all of the people posting info about CURF know a bit about what is happening over there.  The story as I know it is that Hynes was hired and after one season, didnt want anything to do with the challenge of turning around the football program.  After a failed attempt at landing the athletic director position, he managed to get the job of Dean of Students (a strange promotion for a head football coach).  In the meantime, he failed to recruit for that upcoming season and left the brunt of it on his assistants at the time, Conwell and Smith. Coach Conwell took over the program and after a bad season attempted to hire his own coaching staff.  The administration would not let him hire his own staff and he settled for two coaches that were approved by the administration (finally hired in July).  The staff managed to do a decent job bringing in 20-25 players starting the recruiting process in late April.  The administration had the option of hiring the staff in December but balked on the opportunity.  

To get to the point, Hynes fired the entire staff and the athletic director that beat him out for that position.  How he rose to that status so quickly, to be able to do that is a testimony to his ability to b.s. his way into positions.  He surronds himself with people who are less than intelligent and has found the perfect school that buys into his crap about knowing what he is doing.  The program at Lakeland took a dive when he was in charge, but CURF in all their intelligence has put their faith in him to build their program from a position that he is most comfortable, a position that he can deflect all true responsibity and blame when it is obvious that he dug a bigger hole for the program to climb out of.

How can recruiting be the problem and how can the administration know if  the staff can recruit or not.  Managing to land 20 some players so late indicates that they might be decent recruiters if they had a full recruiting season under their belts.  

The events at CURF are not so surprising and just another big reason why there is no loyalty or support from an alumni base that is dying for something to be excited about and support.  They make it impossible to do that.  Not everyone that has been a part of that program is a hypocrite that hides behind their Lutheran faith.  And to the point of Lutheran recruiting, thats fine but variety and opening the doors to other Christian beliefs is what CURF needs to do in order to be competitive in all phases of the collegiate experience.  They are failing miserably.  
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: gc_fan on November 10, 2005, 05:49:27 am
TruCountry95 -  on the Wash U website http://www.bearsports.wustl.edu they have 12 pages of game notes with all sorts of stats, preview of the game etc.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Gomer Pyle on November 10, 2005, 07:38:09 am
Does anyone know anything bout Wash U. I went to their post page in the University Athletic Confm but all that page was talkin about was music and the band battles at the games or something. Nothin about football.
I think GC will beat Wash U this Saturday. Wash U reciever is going for that 82 yards for that big record (4 consecutive years with 1,000+ yards). But we have Mark Schopp and they should really match up well. I just think GC defense will stop Wash U. Plus Wash U more than likely expects the Greenville Panthers from last year. Good luck to all the teams this week.

  Navigate D3 for all the information you need on Wash U.
    They`ve got an "ok" QB, a weak running game an a good Wr. Well, better than good, as he stands to maybe break a lot of D3 records this saturday.
   Either way he`s had a stellar career at WU.
   If Greenville can shut him down....maybe......
   but i`ll stick with WU.
   
   
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Gomer Pyle on November 10, 2005, 08:00:02 am
I gotta say I lost respect for EC this weekend.  I thought it was admirable of them to show up every week even when the odds were stacked against them.  But to cancel the game at half was pretty rediculous.  It ruined a lot of seniors last game.  That was not the way you want your last game to go, to not even get the chance to knowingly walk of the field for the last time and get the ovation you deserve for all the hard work and dedication you have put in. 

The refs were over heard telling CUW's head coach that even if the lightening delay were up EC's players were not going to return to the field.


Whoa, i think this is the first time we've heard of this

anyone care to elaborate more?


  Check out the D3 scoreboard,week 10.
   CW...63   Eureak..0 in the first half!
    Read the "release"  about the game. May help to explain some.
   Most, if not all you guys played ball at a high school some place or another and you know when a storm  with or with out lightning came along the game was stopped,cancealed and in some cases re-scheduled. Looks like that`s what happened here.
  Senior day or what ever aside, safety is always first and foremost.  Does any player want to get zapped by a lightning bolt? I don`t think so.
  Think what you want but IMO, they made the right call.
   Eureka gets to play Chicago this week-end who,
   is the conference leader.  The score could be worse than the CW one if for no other resason than they will play 4 quarters.
   
     
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Gomer Pyle on November 10, 2005, 08:30:53 am
Hey guys just checking in.....I went out and watched the MAC scrimmage today at Freesen Field.. They are looking better than the 2002 team.. the offense is VERY powerful as always and the defense is magnificant.. The new D-coordinator has put together a "goon" squad!! The best of luck to the highlanders this year... Has anyone else been to watch any other IBFC scrimmages??

  Looking over past comments i saw this and was wondering if MICRO still thought the same thing?
  That Mac team(2002) was un-defeated in conference play, 10-0: First team to do so in school history. Ranked 14 in the nation (D3),
   and got to play Wabash in the NCAA play-offs.
   They got beat but so did Wabash later on.
   This years Mac team came no where near the
    standard set by the 2002 team! IMO.
   
 
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: EyeintheSkY05 on November 10, 2005, 11:43:43 am
Since were talking All-IBFC CUW and Lakeland should basically dominate the first teams I mean from both sides you can basically pick who you want. The positions that mostly stand out are the lines CUW's Langston and Allen were destroyed people all year on the D-Line and their O-Line the Left side of the line was tremendous every game I went to when it went to the left side you can bet on at least five yards they had John Mask who is now a 3 year starter always steady and I think a transfer kid who is pretty good Bailey I think his name is. Lakeland's D-Line was very physical thanks to Benton and Zeck and O-Line looked ok at time their QB made them look better than they were they barely could run the ball.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: FalconsFootball on November 10, 2005, 12:45:11 pm
I agree that safety is first and formost.  The thing is the head ref was HEARD telling CUW head coach that even if the delay was up EC was not planning on coming back out.

I know EC has been through a lot and that is why I always had a great respect for the guys on that team, playing for the true love of the game.  Yet we need to remember that CURF has had even more problems and have never done anything like this.  I also know that we sat in the locker room for 10-15 minutes before coach Gabe came in and told us the game was finished because of lightening.

I hope I am wrong about EC and good luck to them in their last game; something CUW seniors did not get.
 
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: uamusme on November 10, 2005, 02:02:10 pm

  Check out the D3 scoreboard,week 10.
   CW...63   Eureak..0 in the first half!
    Read the "release"  about the game. May help to explain some.
   Most, if not all you guys played ball at a high school some place or another and you know when a storm  with or with out lightning came along the game was stopped,cancealed and in some cases re-scheduled. Looks like that`s what happened here.
  Senior day or what ever aside, safety is always first and foremost.  Does any player want to get zapped by a lightning bolt? I don`t think so.
  Think what you want but IMO, they made the right call.
   Eureka gets to play Chicago this week-end who,
   is the conference leader.  The score could be worse than the CW one if for no other resason than they will play 4 quarters.


Yeah I have no problems with a game being cancelled for safety. From the comments that were posted it sounded like it was a coaches call...

That being said... all I wanted to find out was if the game was cancelled for some other reason, what was the players reactions. Since apparently it was  genuine concern for safety, I have no qualms with it.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: disgracetofball on November 10, 2005, 04:20:06 pm
Big uns I think your trashing of Pongo was pretty stupid.  The only funny posts are about teams walking off the field and quitting, check that, sad posts.  I would like to know how many times that has happened in d3 (along with the non-conference record of the IBFC, still waiting on that one).  The fact is that this conference shouldn't even have a message board.  When your #1 team  loses by 60+ to anyone it's a nonpoint.  Don't give me that UW crap either.  They pool their players just like anyone else.  It doesn't matter about Lutheran, Catholic or whatever other stuff you want to put in there.  The fact of the matter is that it is the schools fault.  I don't blame the players.  There is no reason that schools like CURF and Ben should not have good teams.  If they just recruited from the area they would be doing pretty damn good.  I think it will be great when this conference parts its ways because then recruits will not make their decisions based on the past records and will look to be part of something new.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Big_Uns on November 10, 2005, 07:04:29 pm
I just thought that the "ugly stepbrother" comment was funny. I apologize. I'll never have a sense of humor again.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: fishguy on November 10, 2005, 11:51:31 pm
Congrats to Lakeland for being ranked 10th in the NCAA North Region ratings this week - always good to see an IBFC club get some additional recognition. d3fb.com speculation has LC playing at Wabash in the playoff opener - time will tell.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Gomer Pyle on November 11, 2005, 08:12:50 am
Congrats to Lakeland for being ranked 10th in the NCAA North Region ratings this week - always good to see an IBFC club get some additional recognition. d3fb.com speculation has LC playing at Wabash in the playoff opener - time will tell.

  Nice to see that LC got some props from in the NCAA N-R ratings.
  Just checked the D3 Top 25 and LC is no where in site. Not in the Top 25 or the "also rans".
  As  that site is voted on by a panel of 25 coaches, SID`s and media members is it possible they know something? 
   As far as "speculation" goes about LC playing Wabash which, by the way, is ranked 19th in the current D3 Top 25, i`d say they would have a very tough time of it. 
  I know were`re dealing with "speculation" here
  so lets wait till they announce who plays who then we can debate the merits of that  pairing.
   Not being a "Homer" my comments will be un-biased and fact related. 
   Every year the conference Champs have an opportunity to set a standard by which all others
   will be judged and that is ......win an NCAA play-off game. When the "pairings" are announed i think we`ll have a better idea about this year. IMO.
   
   

   

     
   
   
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: maddog8 on November 11, 2005, 11:16:23 am
Everyone sorry about the delay the 3rd and 2nd teams will be posted on this site Sat 11-12 and the "all maddog team 1st team WILL BE POSTED BY WED 11-16, in addition the MADDOG PLAYER of the YEAR will also be posted AND WHY HE IS THE PLAYER OF THE YEAR!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!. I have narrowed that down to 3 players at this time from the list I came out with a week ago. (Stats, Leadership, Courage and GUTS). are what have determined this Athlete for this Award. To most this is probable a joke but to me I take pride in doing this, not because I have the time or money (because I don't have either) for the awards BUT FOR THE PLAYERS AND THERE EFFORT THRU THE SEASON, that and only that is why I am doing this. I you all want I will continue next year, but you decide fans, and PLAYERS. You will hear from me on Sat. "GO MUSKIES"
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: uamusme on November 11, 2005, 11:24:29 am
Ok, now on a lighter side of things, but a semi serious question too.

What should the new conference be called?

Illini-Badger-Hawkeye?

Illinois-Wisconsin-Iowa Athletic Conference?

Mostly Religious Schools Conference?

Plus, how do you think the adding of Maranatha Baptist, Wisconsin Lutheran and Rockford will change the dynamics of the football side of the new conference?
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Gomer Pyle on November 11, 2005, 12:31:29 pm
Ok, now on a lighter side of things, but a semi serious question too.

What should the new conference be called?

Illini-Badger-Hawkeye?

Illinois-Wisconsin-Iowa Athletic Conference?

Mostly Religious Schools Conference?

Plus, how do you think the adding of Maranatha Baptist, Wisconsin Lutheran and Rockford will change the dynamics of the football side of the new conference?

 Your last question. The only team with a winning record is Rockford, 7-3.
  The other two, M-B and W-L are 5-13 combined.
   With W-L having (1) more game to play.
  I`m not sure who is (maybe) leaving the IBFC but at first glance it looks like.........Tit for tat. IMO.
   
 
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: wlcalum on November 11, 2005, 02:09:31 pm
I like the name "MRAC" :-\ I know one thing for sure. You all will enjoy playing on Wisconsin Lutherans field turf, it is like playing on a sponge. WLC will also enjoy not having to travel for 8 hours and get beat on by the tough Michigan teams. The new conference should help WLC with the recruiting aspect as they will recieve more local area press coverage instead of just Michigan news coverage. Look for this young program to be in the mix of things in a couple years.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Warrior_Fish on November 11, 2005, 05:14:05 pm
The New Conference has a name.  It is not announced what it is yet, but one does exist. 

http://www.lakeland.edu/Athletics/playoffs/

Check the site for info on the playoff announcements on Sunday. 

Lakeland looks to draw a first round opponent that would be a winnable game. 
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: uamusme on November 11, 2005, 11:44:24 pm
Ok, speaking of the regional rankings..

Could someone explain how the Lakeland - Whitewater game counts as in region? Same with Concordia and Oshkosh? Is it because we have conferences in the same state?
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Mr. Ypsi on November 12, 2005, 12:15:15 am
Starting a couple of years ago, schools within 200 miles are in-region, even if they are otherwise different regions.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Pat Coleman on November 12, 2005, 12:19:05 am
Check the site for info on the playoff announcements on Sunday. 

Check this site for playoff announcements on Sunday. :)
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: maddog8 on November 12, 2005, 03:07:59 pm
The 2005 ALL MADDOG 2ND AND 3RD TEAMS
Offense 3rd TEAM
QB----------------------Andrew Hornung-----------AU
RB----------------------Shaun Lee-------------------LC
RB----------------------Ben James-------------------BU
FB----------------------Nick Paxon-------------------AU
WR---------------------Joe sergo--------------------BU
WR---------------------Bryson Taylor---------------GC
WR---------------------Joe Fish----------------------EC
WR---------------------Ryan Eberthart-------------MC
OL----------------Greenville OL Unit---------------GC

PUNTER----------------Billy Hughes----------------LC

KICKER-----------------Dan Luccechessi----------LC

(could someone send me there names all 5 Lineman from Greenville)

(Defense will be tomorrow for both units)


2ND TEAM ALL MADDOG UNIT
QB---------------------SHAUN MANNING-------------EC
RB---------------------BRANDON ERDMAN-----------LC
RB---------------------TONY FONTANA----------------CI
FB---------------------TRAVIS GERVAIS---------------LC
WR--------------------JON COLLIER-------------------CW
WR--------------------NICK EASLEY-------------------EC
WR-------------------JON DeJULIO--------------------GC
WR-------------------ERIC ROYAL---------------------LC
OL--------------------JOSH KRATZ---------------------CW
OL--------------------JOE PUHL------------------------LC
OL--------------------ANDREW DAVENPORT----------CW
OL--------------------RYAN HOLM----------------------LC
OL--------------------CHRIS BURDICK-----------------LC

PUNTER-------------TREY SENNEY--------------------CW

KICKER-------------KYLE MAI--------------------------CW

(Defense and KR 2nd and 3rd tomorrow)
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Gomer Pyle on November 12, 2005, 03:55:22 pm
 D3 Scoreboard:
   At the half............Greenville 24.    Wash U.....14
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: thekid on November 12, 2005, 05:08:33 pm
Go Greenville, get the IBFC another Non-Conference WIN!

Any news about the Aurora/Valpo Game?
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: gc_fan on November 12, 2005, 06:20:10 pm
Final from Greenville - Wash U 42 - G.C. 24
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: sotha sil on November 12, 2005, 10:24:57 pm
Josh Kratz of Concorida has not played all season.  To make the all maddog second team is a credit to his amazing looks.  Maddog quickly save the teams credibility
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: TruCountry95 on November 13, 2005, 01:02:43 am
Maddog here is the Greenville's OL.
Greenville does alot of changes for OL for different games but this is it I think...

Soph---#50 Trent Dahnke
Senior--#74 Derek Robinson
Junior---#62 Poe Terrance
Soph---#76 Aaron Mingo
Senior---#51 Brett Hankins

Also... Soph---#78 Casey Schwartzlose
           Fresh---#66 Paris Jones

All great student-athletes!
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: sotha sil on November 13, 2005, 04:57:07 am
to just let everyone know...kratz did not play bc he tore his acl...just wondering how he ended up making the all-maddog list...i probably should give a congrats to lakelands qb i figure his dad will give him the player of the year award...even though i think he is second to manny mills
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Gomer Pyle on November 13, 2005, 08:16:27 am
The New Conference has a name.  It is not announced what it is yet, but one does exist. 

http://www.lakeland.edu/Athletics/playoffs/

Check the site for info on the playoff announcements on Sunday. 
   
 

Lakeland looks to draw a first round opponent that would be a winnable game. 

   Just looked at the "possible" paring`s on The D3
   site.  The only reason i mention it is because of the above statement. "..............winnable game."
   That site has LC paired with LINFIELD.
   Now i know it`s not offical or anything but you better believe that`s  the last team LC needs to get pared with.
   Tomorrow we`ll all know for sure who plays who
  but if LC does draw LINFIELD,.........Do i hear a fat
   lady singing?
   




   
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: thekid on November 13, 2005, 11:35:43 am
   
  Now i know it`s not offical or anything but you better believe that`s  the last team LC needs to get pared with.
   


I believe that's the last team anyone wants to be pared with.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: uamusme on November 13, 2005, 11:52:07 am

   Tomorrow we`ll all know for sure who plays who
  but if LC does draw LINFIELD,.........Do i hear a fat
   lady singing?
   

Ok, I'll be honest... I don't want that to happen for a selfish reason...

I don't wanna drive that far.

I'm student press... I'll probably go to the game no matter what, just wanna know how far iv'e got to go
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Big_Uns on November 13, 2005, 12:03:41 pm
If the NCAA really is going to flop regions like that and throw Lakeland in the West, then a smart idea would be to flop Whitewater into the North. Look at it now you have the top three teams (Linfield, Whitewater, St. Johns) in the same bracket. In my mind, to save on travel demands for the schools, you swap UWW into the North and have Lakeland play them again. It would be smarter for two reasons: 1) travel and 2) competitiveness. I say competitiveness because any one of those three schools could be national champions and to have them all in the same bracket is foolish.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Gomer Pyle on November 13, 2005, 12:20:22 pm

   Tomorrow we`ll all know for sure who plays who
  but if LC does draw LINFIELD,.........Do i hear a fat
   lady singing?
   

Ok, I'll be honest... I don't want that to happen for a selfish reason...

I don't wanna drive that far.

I'm student press... I'll probably go to the game no matter what, just wanna know how far iv'e got to go


  MapQuest: 31 hours drive, plus or minus.
   2110 miles (one way) plus or minus.
   The above is from Sheboygan to McMinnville, Ore.
  All that to hear the "Fat lady" sing?
   Good luck to you and keep your VISA handy.
    Couse if LC doesn`t draw LINFIELD you just saved your self a bunch of money.
   
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Soulsenda on November 13, 2005, 01:03:07 pm
Maddog-

Appreciate the 3rd Team selection...as a player and hardworker not satisfied.  Anything less than the best is disappointing.  Kindve hard to get the numbers when you  only play receiver for 5 games(three against CCIW top teams) and then run veer option, although i still did okay but not good enough.  Good luck to Lakeland...Everyone have a great off season and we'll see y'all on the field next Sept...
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Big_Uns on November 13, 2005, 01:24:23 pm
Lakeland at Augustana...a little better draw than the Linfields of the world.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: uamusme on November 13, 2005, 01:46:00 pm
  All that to hear the "Fat lady" sing?
   Good luck to you and keep your VISA handy.
    Couse if LC doesn`t draw LINFIELD you just saved your self a bunch of money.

The story is not wheter they win or lose, but that it's the first playoff game in the history of the program. Thats why I'm going. Thankfully it's only about 3-4 hours away.

Besides, there is always the possibility for an upset...

That just makes for a better story.  :D
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: uamusme on November 13, 2005, 01:57:43 pm
  MapQuest: 31 hours drive, plus or minus.
   2110 miles (one way) plus or minus.
   The above is from Sheboygan to McMinnville, Ore.
 

It's almost 3100 from Sheboygan to Mexico and back... Not that it's the same distance, but that only took 47 hours and change...

Yeah... we were bored 2 years ago...
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: formerd3db on November 13, 2005, 02:52:54 pm
usaname:
In those circumstances (1st playoff appearance ever), I'd say it is well worth the 3-4 hour drive ;) as you say!  Hope you have an enjoyable time regardless of the outcome.  DIII playoff time is a fun time.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Gomer Pyle on November 13, 2005, 03:39:30 pm
  LC vs Augustana. 
    A better pairing for LC in that it`s closer.
    Augustana  is ranked 11th as of week 10 in the
   D3 Top 25.
    A look at their stats (AC) shows a strong running game. in fact it only shows a couple of TD`s via the
  air and a ton on the ground.
    I congradulate LC on their championship and their first NCAA play-off game. Now comes the tash of getting the IBFC a win in those play-offs.
  Some really good teams have been there before
  ( Con Wis, Aurora, MacMurray) and have come up empty.
    Winning a P-O-G will put LC and the IBFC on the map so to speak. There`s a lot riding on their shoulders, so again good luck to them.
   That being said, i believe Augustana will prevail.
   Strenght of schedule and their stats bring me to that conclusion.



   
   
   
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Big_Uns on November 13, 2005, 04:47:20 pm
My thoughts on the pairing are that Augie has a very very strong running game and almost a non-existent passing game (re: 250 yards on the season) and Lakeland's defense has been more than up-to-the-task of stopping the run in the last few weeks. That being said, it's obvious that Augie's running game is far superior than anyone (maybe even UWW) Lakeland has seen this year.

Augie beat Carthage 7-0 earlier in the season. Remember than Lakeland almost beat Carthage as well, and that was without David Benton or Nick Hunter on defense. With matured freshman and the 4-4 defense Lakeland uses, I expect this to be a very, very close game, much like the Carthage game where defense rules.

Best of luck to LC to bring home that elusive first IBFC playoff victory.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: bufan on November 13, 2005, 06:20:22 pm
I lied, this is my second post in the history of this website.  On the Augustana Lakeland match up this Saturday...I went to the Augie-Wheaton game and was amazed at how massive Wheaton's players were compared to Augie's.  Then a quarter and a half later Augie was spanking Wheaton and their fans wanted to leave(I was sitting on Wheaton's side).  Their running game was overwhelming and I know Lakeland has a very good defense, and for the sake of argument, maybe Lakeland's defense can hold them to 14-21 points.  But, Augies defense is very fast and a bunch of physical SOB's literally, not dirty but just Bad*sses out there.  And there may be no hope for passing for Lakeland because there offense is no North Central which Augie stymied for 17 points.  Their secondary is very, very good.  My score prediction for this game is Augie 38, Lakeland 7.  Augie's Oline goes from this awkward 4-point stance and was driving these massive men off the ball at Wheaton.  It was amazing to watch.  Granted they have no passing game and they will not win the Champtionship because of that, but as for a first round win yes, then I believe they may have to face MT. Union which will be a tall task for sure.  S
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: bufan on November 13, 2005, 06:20:55 pm
Sorry, so i do wish lakeland the best of luck since they are my rep.  but we may have to wait another year
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Augie6 on November 13, 2005, 07:24:18 pm
bufan,

Just a little history lesson.  We won 4 straight national championships in the 1980's running the same offense you saw yesterday at Wheaton.  During that time, we averaged about 5 pass attempts per game.  We have run this offense since 1979 when Bob Reade took over the program.  The past few years, the biggest problem with Augie (and the reason the couldn't beat Wheaton and win the CCIW) was an average to below average defense.  The defensive play has improved dramatically this year as you saw yesterday at Wheaton.  That is the primary reason Augie was able to go undefeated through an extremely tough CCIW schedule.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: fishguy on November 13, 2005, 09:34:50 pm
Augie is clearly the big favorite here. One interesting point is the Lakeland coaches are all familiar with Augie - their head coach and defensive coordinator were at Millikin and their offensive coordinator was at North Park. Now, that will mean squat if Lakeland's defense cannot stop the run. But the point it, Lakeland's coaches have experienced Augie's running game. Not that it's any surprise - basically Augie says 'Ok, you stopped us once, now try to do it for the whole game.' I think it will be a low scoring, very quick dandy of a game.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: augiedogie on November 13, 2005, 10:42:30 pm
Fishguy:
There are a lot of teams that have seen Augie's offense over the years and havn't faird to well even after knowing what is coming at them.

A couple of quick stats for you:
Augustana has averaged over 26 points each of the last 26 straight seasons and often over 300 yards rushing a game

The Vikings have ranked in the top 10 in rushing according to the latest NCAA Division III statistics for 24 of the last 25 seasons dating back to 1980 (Nationally - #2 in 2000, #1 in 2001, #5 in 2002, #14 in 2003, #4 in 2004)

Before the last game of the season they were ranked 2nd in the nation in running as well.  You are exactly right with your comment you've stopped us once, now do it again. Most teams they have played havn't been able to do that the whole game which is a huge factor come the 4th quarter when players get tired. It should be a good game this weekend, and I look forward to the match up at the Rock.

Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: baseman201 on November 13, 2005, 10:43:13 pm
Bufan,

Ok, well, Lakeland is EXTREMELY lucky with the team they have to play.  If Lakeland was paired with Linfield, Mr. Union, Whitewater, St. Johns, etc...then it would have been an ugly game.  

But, back to Bufan, I think 38-7 is a reasonable score, they lose by 25+ points, and I get my free Taco Bell.  Teams out of our conference are just to tough for an IBFC team to have a chance, I am sorry, but it's the truth.  Good luck to Lakeland on sunday, but don't be surprised to see a lopsided score at the end of the game.

I may head on over to Augustana to check out the game on Saturday, it isn't horribly far away from River Forest

Ok fine, I will make the score a little better bufan...

Auguastana - 45
Lakeland - 17


The non-conference foes are just to strong, it's the truth.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: baseman201 on November 13, 2005, 10:44:31 pm
Quote
Ok, well, Lakeland is EXTREMELY lucky with the team they have to play.

Ok, that was a quote from myself.

I take that back, Augustana is a good team, Lakeland isn't lucky
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Soulsenda on November 14, 2005, 12:48:53 pm
so maddog is the father of Lakeland's QB huh....hmm...very interesting...
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: aufb05 on November 14, 2005, 03:40:10 pm
Baseman201

Teams out of our conference are just to tough for an IBFC team to have a chance, I am sorry, but it's the truth.  The non-conference foes are just to strong, it's the truth.

2004 1st round PO - AU v No. 6 Wooster - 4th QTR win by Wooster 41-34. IBFC teams can hang.

Soulsenda-

You must be the only one who didn't know who Maddog is. By the way his son had a hellava season, so did the whole LAKE team for that matter. His son has my vote for Player of the Year. 
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: bufan on November 14, 2005, 04:10:57 pm
Baseman- unfortunately, you are right the CCIW is too strong for IBFC team this season and several other seasons in the past.

AUFB-  I understand the score was very close against wooster, but you guys had an exceptionally good team last year.  In the two years b4 that mac and conc wis got it handed to them if im not mistaken(in the playoffs).  You guys just had an extremely good team that year, better than those MAC and conc wis teams of 02 and 03.  So in correction to your statement, the IBFC cannot hang, AU 2004 could hang.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Da One on November 14, 2005, 05:50:32 pm
I wish Lakeland the best.  I grew up in Northwest ILL and all I heard about was how great Augie is.  They are far removed from the old days of domination.  They are very battle tested.  But not superhuman.  I just hate the fact they think their s**t doesn't stink and there untruthful recruiting habbits .  I never thought I would say this but, GO FISH.  Maddog, I might see you there.  Can choose between this game or the North Central game.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: zorbadagreek on November 14, 2005, 06:05:31 pm
Im a cciw guy, but the fact is that I think that Auggie is going to dismantle Lakeland. Auggie has played a helluva tougher schedule than Lakeland and has beaten up those cciw teams pretty well along the way! Who does Lakeland play, Eureka?? CURF?? ;D
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: baseman201 on November 14, 2005, 06:56:00 pm
Zorbodagreek-

You are right, the reason Lakeland is 8-2 is because they play teams like CURF, BU, and Eureka. 

Does anyone think that Lakeland would be 8-2 in the CCIW??? Aurora???  CUW???  If any "top" team from the IBFC was in another conference, any one of them would be fighting for a 500 season each and every year.  I mean, Augustana had to beat 4 teams in their own conference with winning records, and only lost their first game by one in overtime to a 9-1 non-conference team (Central). 

I think that's why maybe our teams get killed (with exception to the 2004 Aurora team) in the first round of the playoffs.  They are used to beating the crap out of IBFC teams, that they have no idea what to expect from the better schools from the powerhouse conferences. 

Why do you think the IBFC hasn't gotten any respect?  We lose all or most of our non-conference games, then get blown out in the playoffs (with exception again of course to the 2004 Aurora team). 

But whatever, I am heading to the game this Saturday, and am going to enjoy some D-III playoff football.  I am looking forward to see the kind of talent that lies in the big conferences.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: aufb05 on November 14, 2005, 07:22:52 pm
Baseman201-

AU was a good team last year but they lost to a LAKE team that was not as good as their team this year. That said, I'm not going to predict the outcome against the Augie's but I will say this - Lakeland is going to show in a big way. Win or lose they will make us as proud that they are the IBFC reps. the same as AU did last year. There is something about this LAKE team that makes me think that they might pull this off.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: zorbadagreek on November 14, 2005, 07:41:49 pm
My prediction- Auggie 45 - Lakeland 21
Auggie will play its style of football and rush for over 400 yards, as usual. ;)
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: formerd3db on November 14, 2005, 07:45:05 pm
baseman:
Easy friend!  Your teams got to take the first step and get there first!  Takes along time to get attitudes changed and conference(s) to get competitive.  It can happen, but won't overnight.  Trust me, we (MIAA) know!  Certainly, no one likes playoff blowouts, but I'd be happy just to get there first, then eventually keep working on getting better in successive years.  On the other hand, with the IBC changing, perhaps the various teams, whatever conferences they end up in will get more competitive.  But I know where you're coming from regarding your commentary.  Anyway, good luck this weekend.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: baseman201 on November 14, 2005, 07:49:03 pm
Haha, ok I am sorry, I will take it easy.

here is my prediction again.

Augustana - 45
Lakeland - 17

BUT, if Lakeland does pull this off, you can expect a  big old picture on the front page of D3football.com for sure

Or hopefully
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: augiedogie on November 14, 2005, 08:30:57 pm
baseman201:

We look forward to seeing you at the game on Saturday. Congrats to Lakeland for their 8-2 season. Atleast they don't have to travel to Linfield! If you're a fan of smashmouth run the ball football watching the Augie offense is a treat.  You think you've stopped the rb and then find out he isn't the one with the ball.  Should be a good game this weekend.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: football_is_great on November 14, 2005, 10:31:42 pm
about all the comments that Aurora team that was good last yr. Not questionin if they were good cuz they were. But wasnt it the same muskie team last year as this year that beat them? I think so, so your logic is makin no sense.  Just thought I would throw that in.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: uamusme on November 15, 2005, 12:34:03 am
Ok, while my gut tells me LAKE is going to get blown out, my heart tells me otherwise. (So I'm an optimist... sue me)

I'm not going to predict a score, but I believe that the game will be decided by 1-2 scores.

I don't think Lakeland will be able to stop the run completely, I also don't think the Auggies will be able to account for everyone on the Lakeland offense. This will not be a high scoring game, but it will be fun to watch no matter what.

On another note, I'm looking forward to meeting anyone else that'll be there... I know maddog will be there... anyone else?
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: markdamaker40 on November 15, 2005, 01:59:51 am
Well Lakeland,
It was a nice run but its time to bow down to the CCIW once again.  You think Carthage's Defense was tough wait until Augie just levels you.  They are the top dogs in the CCIW this year.  And you thought you had a rushing attack. HAHAHA have fun stopping the Wing-T.

Go CCIW and Go Augie!
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: footballfan05 on November 15, 2005, 02:19:16 am
The wing-t can be stopped with a disciplined d and lakeland did see flashes of the wing t against CUW who does run it very well.  So i dont think the wing t will affect them that much as far as them knowing who has the ball. i think it will be augies physical ability to pound their opponents which will win this game. But i do think that North Central will have a better chance at coming out of this bracket even though augie beat them. Far fetched but wouldnt it be awesome to see a quarterfinal rematch between those 2.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: augiedogie on November 15, 2005, 07:47:59 am
footballfan05:

Any offense can be stoped on any given Saturday, but Augie was well over 300+ yards a game on the ground.  They got stopped 1 time this year against Carthage who was a top 3 defense nationally this season. I havn't seen Lakeland play, but I don't think their defense is comparable to a Carthage or Wheaton team that has held Augie in check. As one poster said earlier that they think Augie's rushing attack is even better than UWW, and I'm not saying the score will be exactly like that, but I think Augie will be putting up some big numbers on Lakeland this weekend.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Gomer Pyle on November 15, 2005, 09:30:01 am
  Just looked at the D3 Top 25 and no LC.
   They don`t even show up on the "others receiving votes" section . Why is that?
  Just checked the IBFC site. LC is the most penalized team in the conference. Lack of discipline? Coaching? Over zealous play?  What ever the reason, if not corrected, will cost them dearly against The Auggie Boys. You can`t play a better(maybe) team and give anything away.
  I see the Auggie posters are here, kind of like last year when the Wooster-etts invaded the forum.
   Like the Wooster-etts there`re  spouting the
  "company" line about we`re better, blab,blab.
   If they do win, maybe they were better. If they lose, Katty bar the door! Time will tell.
   Waiting for Maddogs.........All Maddog team.
    I have no doubt in my mind that he(Maddog)
    has done his home-work in who he selects.
    That being said i`ve seen some names mentioned who,IMO, have not performed as expected so i hope expectations don`t over shadow performance. Time will tell. 
   
 
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: football_is_great on November 15, 2005, 09:38:35 am
There is a reason why UWW is ranked 2nd in the nation, and its not because Augie has a better attack then them. They could throw the ball pretty affective, but running was a challenge. I think this game is gonna be closer than most people think.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Soulsenda on November 15, 2005, 11:48:08 am
LC vs.  Augie predictions....

LC wins 21-14
*This win is based on only the presumption that LC has Ditka playing for them.  Ditka single handedly scores 21 pts on offense.  Decides not to be on Kickoff team and Augie returns two to the house with no Ditka on the field.  Now with out Ditka it might be a little closer like this...

Augie 102  LC -11
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Mugsy on November 15, 2005, 11:51:35 am

Any offense can be stoped on any given Saturday, but Augie was well over 300+ yards a game on the ground.  They got stopped 1 time this year against Carthage who was a top 3 defense nationally this season. I havn't seen Lakeland play, but I don't think their defense is comparable to a Carthage or Wheaton team that has held Augie in check. As one poster said earlier that they think Augie's rushing attack is even better than UWW, and I'm not saying the score will be exactly like that, but I think Augie will be putting up some big numbers on Lakeland this weekend.

Although the score doesn't indicate it, I'd say Wheaton did a fairly decent job stopping Augie.  The final score was 28-7, but one TD was on a blocked punt returned for a TD and another TD was setup by a 70+ interception return to Wheaton's 7 yard line.  Minus those 2 huge plays... it is a 14-7 game.  Augie had 202 yards total offense... well below their 350+ yards rushing.  Take away (I know you can't do that...) Augie's first drive of 83 yards, and they only had 120 yards for the remainder of the game.  Now... I'm not sure Lakeland will have that level of success against Augie, but I'm just pointing out Wheaton did a good job slowing down the Augie rushing juggernaut, along with Carthage.

I mean this as no disrespect to Lakeland, but I see Augie winning this be 2 TD's.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: baseman201 on November 15, 2005, 12:19:26 pm
GOMER!!!!

For the last time do you know why Lakeland isn't on the top 25 board??? Let me spell it out for you.......b-e-c-a-u-s-e  t-h-e-y  a-r-e-n-t  a  t-o-p  25  t-e-a-m.

I hope that got the point across.  And hey, if Augustana wants to invade this board, more power to them.  They can back up their words with their 9-1 record in one of the top conferences in D-III football.

And yes, they are the post penalized team in the conference, I don't think it has anything to do with coaching, but possibly discipline, maybe they think they are so good they can do stuff like that.  We all saw what happens when someone plays cheap against a powerhouse, they get beat 73-12.  If lakeland wants to play cheap against Augustana..........ouch

Soulsenda -

That Ditka thing was freaking hilarious, you should be a comedian.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: CardinalAlum on November 15, 2005, 12:25:57 pm
GOMER!!!!

For the last time do you know why Lakeland isn't on the top 25 board??? Let me spell it out for you.......b-e-c-a-u-s-e  t-h-e-y  a-r-e-n-t  a  t-o-p  25  t-e-a-m.

I hope that got the point across.  And hey, if Augustana wants to invade this board, more power to them.  They can back up their words with their 9-1 record in one of the top conferences in D-III football.    

Baseman,

I applaud you for your brutal honesty!!  For the IBC teams that feel that they get no respect, it's going to take you winning a playoff game to earn some of that.  I'm sure there are quite a few teams that didn't get in that feel that they are better than the IBC representative.  Bottom line is that Lakeland is in and if they can somehow pull off a monumental upset, that will give you some credibility.  With that being said, Augie wins this one by 20!
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: maddog8 on November 15, 2005, 01:29:50 pm
Pat I posted the ALL MADDOG TEAM and it told me after 2 hours of typing that the sesson expired.  I lost everything could you retreive it and post it or do I have to do it all over again. Please let me know soon thanks.

Soul Sister Senda what is your point of me being Lakeland's QB dad, if you just learned this then your a day late and dollar short. Again what is your point??


As for Sat game well lets just say the Augies have a few surprises coming to town. Lakeland will be in this game til the end and in the end the best team will prevail. That being said I pick?


As for Kratz making the 3rd team and not playing well lets just say that in the begining I said stats were not everything when making the team. Besides he is from MICHIGAN, and that alone is deserving for me. Besides his school preview for the begining of the season had him listed as a starter.


Pat let me know if you can retrieve it otherwise I will post it tonight in two sessons.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Gomer Pyle on November 15, 2005, 01:45:05 pm
baseman201:  Thank you for your overzealous
  response.   
   
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: baseman201 on November 15, 2005, 01:47:59 pm
haha, no problem

 :)
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Pat Coleman on November 15, 2005, 02:09:02 pm
Maddog,

I don't think I can do anything else, no. When you log in, you might want to check the box that says 'always keep me logged in' or something like that.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: maddog8 on November 15, 2005, 02:16:54 pm
Thanks anyway Pat
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: maddog8 on November 15, 2005, 02:23:58 pm
The 2005 'ALL MADDOG DEFENSIVE TEAM'
DB------------------------ROBBIE PERRY-------------------------AU
DB------------------------JERREL DAVIDSON--------------------AU
DB------------------------MARK SCHOPP-------------------------GC
DB------------------------RICK HUTCHINS-----------------------CW
DB------------------------TYRECE
LB-------------------------RYAN VAN DE LOO--------------------LC
LB-------------------------JR. HARRIEL----------------------------GC
LB-------------------------LARRY PIROLLO-----------------------MAC
LB-------------------------SIJI MOORE----------------------------EC
LB-------------------------SCOTT GERHKE------------------------CW
DL------------------------BOBBY LANGSTON---------------------CW---C
DL------------------------WILBUR ALLEN-------------------------CW
DL------------------------DAVID BENTON-------------------------LC----C
DL------------------------NICK ZECK------------------------------LC
DL------------------------JUSTIN ALLEN--------------------------CI

K--------------------------KYLE SANNIEC-------------------------GC

P--------------------------REGGIE ANTHONY---------------------GC

PR-------------------------ERIC BAYERL---------------------------LC

KR-------------------------BRYSON TAYLOR-----------------------GC

DEFENSIVE PLAYER OF THE YEAR--------------------DAVID BENTON---------LC
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: maddog8 on November 15, 2005, 02:25:47 pm
sorry that DB without a last name is Tyrece Warner from Lakeland College
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: maddog8 on November 15, 2005, 02:29:55 pm
Offensive team tonight and offensive player of year and also what everyone is waiting for MY PICK for MADDOG PLAYER OF THE YEAR!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! AND WHY????
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Soulsenda on November 15, 2005, 02:48:22 pm
base u like that player?  yea I know i know im friggin hilarious!  word word word...

Maddog...G money...what is with the sister comment after soul?  was that an insult?  cmon now  wasnt saying anything bad or good about u being the kids dad.  Its ok.  Ur son plays hard and well and is prolly gonna be ur pick for O playa of the yr which is fine.  It should either be him or Mills, the RB from CW.  Doesnt matter who gets it and u should be gettin angry with a bunch of kids on a website when ur a 50 yr old man who is in a chat room with college kids talking football.   You know better than that.  Anyways as far as the Maddog selections you make they're ok for the most part but also pretty bad in some cases like picking kids who havent even played this yr due to knee injuries.  ANd cmon putting me on third team as WR?  You know better than that.  You know Im one of the top receivers in conference.  Cmon, dont be bashful. 

I hope Lakeland pulls it out this weekend honestly and I would like to see my former QB maine south legend Shawn Kain get far in  the playoffs even if it is only on special teams behind ur son at QB.  he already has a nice fat state ring from our sr yr (state champs '00, quite possibly one of the best state runs in history).  Good luck Muskies.  And for you Maddog Im gonna post the ALL SOULSENDA PLAYCOUSIN team shortly.  We'll see how our picks match up.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Big_Uns on November 15, 2005, 03:19:53 pm
Wow the IBFC bashing is incredible on this board since the Augie folks showed up. Granted, our conferences are no match for each other. The only way to compare these two teams is to look at a team that they both played: Carthage.

Lakeland accumulated MORE yards against that stingy Carthage D than Augie, 200-178, and only gave up 11 more yards to Carthage's offense. Lakeland was without two starters on D that day. Both games were played in Kenosha.

I liked what was said about Lakeland against Concordia. CUW is the best rushing team in the IBFC and probably the closest offensive styled team to Augie, and most agree that the second half of the LC/CUW game was the turning point on defense for Lakeland, who haven't give up more than 80 yards rushing since that game.

Believe me, LC knows what they have to do to beat Augie. This is why I think this will be a lot closer than those CCIW guys would like to think.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Mugsy on November 15, 2005, 03:46:31 pm
Wow the IBFC bashing is incredible on this board since the Augie folks showed up.

Not sure I was "bashing" Lakeland.  I gave an opinion, but I don't think I disparaged them.  Do I think the CCIW is significantly stronger than the IBC, yes and there is a lot to validate that thought - all the way from non-conference records, to past playoff success, etc...  Do I think Augie will win?  Yes, but I'm not claiming a 77-12 throttling.

While the only comparison to make is via Carthage, it is difficult to weigh because it took place so early on in the season.  Carthage, while a quality team, did not have the level of year they expected.  Their defense was VERY tough, but their offense struggled most of the year.  The reason Augie was able to run the table on a VERY competitive CCIW schedule (more so than any year I can remember) is that they are equally tough on both sides of the ball.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: formerd3db on November 15, 2005, 03:47:26 pm
If Lakeland somehow pulls the upset on Augie, then some people will have a lot of crow to eat! :o :D
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: FalconsFootball on November 15, 2005, 03:51:02 pm
I hope LC is fired up after all the talk Augistana fans have been doing on this board, becuase there is nothing I love to see more than an unbalanced offense flounder due to that very fact.  I enjoy watching teams that can't throw piddle around when they are down by a couple scores.  That should be a lesson to all offensive coordinators.  Sure the sun shines on a dogs ass every once in a while and unbalanced offences win a couple games. But they usually don't fair to well against any good defense.

That is the problem with CUW's offense.  They are built to get through the IBFC teams, which didn't happen this year, but when it comes down to it they can't get past good, disciplined defenses. They have, arguably, the best recieving corps and best backfield, however, when they become one dimensional or only run 3-4 different plays any respectable defense should be able to stop them.

As long as LC plays disciplined, gap control football they will be fine. I played in the game CUW v. LAX which was the 3rd best team in the nation that year and we "hung" untill our punter gave them the ball on the 30 yard line 6 times in the second half.  The point is Aug. is not nearly the team LAX was that year and LC has a good defense.  

LC - 17
AUG - 14    
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: uamusme on November 15, 2005, 03:57:20 pm
  Just looked at the D3 Top 25 and no LC.
   They don`t even show up on the "others receiving votes" section . Why is that?
 

Gomer, you say this all the time. No one disputes with you the fact that Lakeland is not ranked and did not get any other votes either.

No one that I have found on this board has said that Lakeland should be ranked or receive any votes. So why post it more than once?

I understand you're trying to be a reality check, but still... it's beating a long dead horse.

If I missed someone saying Lakeland should have gotten votes or be ranked, I apologize in advance.

As everyone knows, rank does not mean really all that much when it comes down to it. If you believe it does, than a win by Auggie by any less than 40 points would be a moral victory for Lakeland.

Hell according to some people on this board scoring at all should be a victory for Lakeland, because we are unranked unvoted for school...

The only way we KNOW who will win, will be about two and a half to three hours after kickoff... That is the only true fact right now
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: maddog8 on November 15, 2005, 04:59:35 pm
Soulsenda, nothing personnal, just thought you were a girl, a person at work her has the name soulcome, soulsenda--soulcome close??  one sends one comes.

Yes Joe you are one of the best receivers but this year there were some standout guys who were deserving. I'm sure you will have the numbers next yr. I hope so because its guys like you that are keeping me watching DIII instead of DII. Best of luck next yr to all.

Let the Augies talk time is winding down fast here. As I said in the past talk is cheap on this or any site. Sat is what counts and Lakeland will be there ready, bank on that. They didn't work this hard to just GET there they did it to WIN.

And Joe I'm 47 not 50 cut me some slack sion
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: baseman201 on November 15, 2005, 05:05:07 pm
Soul -

Joe Sergo eh, that was a nice little 90 yd return you had against us last Saturday.  Although, we only held you to 1 catch for 7 yards.

And maddog, what will you be wearing on Saturday?  Your sons jersey?  Just want to put a face to a fellow poster.  Although, I havent been really posting great things about Lakeland, but just my opinions.  Love not hate maddog.......love

And to any Augustana students or players.  If I just show up to the game, I will be able to get in right?  I mean, I don't want to drive 2 1/2 hours, show up and find out there isn't any room left in the stadium, or find out we need tickets in advance or something like that.

Alright, I am done
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: d3ftball1 on November 15, 2005, 05:09:00 pm
Maddog

I didn't see the 2nd and 3rd Maddog team for defense. Did I somehow miss it?
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: augiedogie on November 15, 2005, 05:11:29 pm
baseman201:

You won't have a problem getting into the game at Augie.  Augie will be on fall break by that time so I don't think the crowd will be too large. The vistor's side doesn't have the largest set of bleachers, but they always allow people to stand anywhere around the stadium. I advise if you have to stand to not stand in the endzone by the scoreboard because that is were a lot of students that might have been thirsty before the game tend to stand. There is normally a shortage of parking around the stadium so just be aware of that as well. Looking forward to a great playoff game this weekend! I don't believe that they will sell tickets in advance, but I know that students will have to pay for the game for a change.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: maddog8 on November 15, 2005, 05:16:26 pm
No I will post that last anted to get the first team out before the IBFC picks.

tonorrow.

Baseman Ya I guess I will wear his old jersey over my carhart gear. I am sure it will be cold, hopefully NOT.  Look for #8, I usually stand in the Endzone by goalpost. or close to them.  Look forward to Sat. should be a good 8 hour drive for the DOG but hey so far this year I have put 14,200 mile on my cars just to see all the muskies games EXCEPT the GREENVILLE one. I had to work.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: maddog8 on November 15, 2005, 05:26:20 pm
Your "2005 ALL MADDOG OFFENSIVE TEAM"
QB------------------------------RYAN MAIURI-----------------------LC---C
RB------------------------------IMMANUEL MILLS------------------CW--C
RB------------------------------PETER EREG------------------------MC
WR-----------------------------TERRY MARTIN---------------------MC
WR-----------------------------McAURTHUR WHITE---------------LC
WR-----------------------------JOE FALLIARD----------------------AU
TE------------------------------JON (HAPPY) GILMORE-------------LC
OL----------------------------- RYAN ROBERS-----------------------CW
OL------------------------------BRYON VANDLEN--------------------LC
OL------------------------------BRIAN EDER--------------------------LC
OL------------------------------NICK DRABECK-----------------------CW
OL------------------------------ANDREW ARGALL--------------------LC

OFFENSIVE PLAYER OF THE YEAR--------RYAN MAIURI---LC

PLAYER OF THE YEAR SOON TO COME AND WHY? AND YES MILLS WOULD HAVE BEEN MY 3RD PICK FOR PLAYER OF THE YEAR. THE MOST OUTSTANDING RUNNING BACK IN THE IBFC HANDS DOWN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: TruCountry95 on November 15, 2005, 07:05:16 pm
Augie people need to chill a bit. Come the freak down. We know how the IBFC is why come in an keep on saying it. At first I wasn't behind Lakeland because of unsportsmanship game and post-game. But they are representing and I hope they win. It would give IBFC some major needed respect. But good luck to Lakeland.
                              Prediction-----Lakeland 17         Augie 12

                              Prediction-----Ditka 92               Hurricane 3
                               
                   Prediction-----Da' 85 Bears 108        Tsunami+Tornado 6

                         Predicaion-----Ditka 112             Linfield+TEXAS+Colts--7
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: maddog8 on November 15, 2005, 07:54:59 pm
 :-XYour 2005 ALL MADDOG PLAYER OF THE YEAR"

THIS PLAYER REALLY DOESN'T NEED A INTRODUCTION BUT BECAUSE OF THE TEAM AND FAMILY HE PLAYS WITH IT IS IMPORTANT TO KNOW WHY HE DESERVES THIS AWARD, HIS DEFENSE KEPT THE GAMES CLOSE, HIS OL THE "HOGGS" PROTECTED HIM AND THAT IS WHY RYAN MAIURI QB LAKELAND IS CONFERENCE PLAYER OF THE YEAR. HE TRUELY DOMINATED THE IBFC AND ITS BECAUSE OF THE REASON I STATED AT THE BEGINING OF THE POST. 35 IN NATION IN TOTAL YRDS PER GAME, FIRST IN IBFC, FIRST ON TEAM, 3RD IN RUSHING, PASSING, SCORING IN THE IBFC, FIRST ON TEAM SCORING, PASSING, RUSHING AND TOTAL OFFENSE. OF THE FIELD BIG PLAYER IN THE BIG BROTHER PROGRAM IN SHEBOYGAN COUNTY. 3.6 GRADE POINT. wHEN HE LEFT SAGINAW VALLEY RANKED 6TH IN DII IN THE NATION, I THOUGHT IT WOULD BE A MISTAKE BUT AFTER IT WAS ALL SAID AND DONE, HE FOUND A GREAT FAMILY AT LAKELAND. HE WAS NOT SELECTED BECAUSE HE IS MY SON (AS MOST WILL THINK), LOOK AT THE FACTS SURROUNDING HIM AND HIS TEAM. HE IS VERY DESERVING, DAVID BENTON WAS A VERY, VERY VERY CLOSE SECOND AS MILLS WAS.

AS FOR PREDICTIONS LAKELAND 17----AUGIES 14

HAVE A GREAT OFF SEASON AND SEE YOU NEXT YR...


GO MUSLIES,  GO MUSKIES
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Soulsenda on November 15, 2005, 08:01:44 pm
baseman1-   thanks but we didnt pass the ball but like 6 times, I only touched the ball 4 times man.  One was  a fumble i recovered on punt, another was a 7 yd catch, one was a 90 KOR to the hizzy, and the other was the ganme winning 25 yd scamper into the Endzone.  True I didnt put up numbers this yr but i was fine with that bc we were running the veer game and I was blocking for some horses in the backfield.  We did finish up pretty well in rushing in the conference and when we needed a score I got it for us(9 in last 4 games).  So I am not being cocky or trying to sound like a jag but all that matters is that we played as a team and if I dont get the ball I dont care as long as were doing things successfully.   But I have to say, As much as people talk smack about CURF and even us, those curf boys have alot of heart.  Thats the best ive seen them play in awhile and I think those boys should keep their heads up and keep working.  I think within the next 5-10 yrs they along with BU and GRN  will have the IBFC above many conferences in the US. I also think LC will give AUGIE a game on Sat bc no matter what any team can beat any team on any given day.  thats the beauty of football.  11 guys out there not just one.  all 11 guys from either team can play the best game of their life one either side of the ball and for either team and all 11 guys can play their worst.  U NEVER KNOW!!!  Thats why I love football!  Also, were in a collegiate level so this sint pop warner or high school so there are many more factors than just pure talent and size.  Good luck to LC.

MADDOG-  My main man.  47 isnt old bro.  Im almost there!  jk...good luck to ur son and no im not a girl.  although I have nice boobies.  GO BEARS!!!
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: maddog8 on November 15, 2005, 08:06:24 pm
Serg, you have a great future keep working hard you will be successful in the future. besides you are truely a great athlete  the dog
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: augiedogie on November 15, 2005, 09:06:17 pm
falscbf:

I'm not trying to "bash" your conference. I just wanted to come to this board and talk about the upcoming game. I've never seen Lakeland play, but I doubt they will be up a couple of scores early in the game on Saturday. The Augustana Vikings havn't trailed by more than 7 points in any of their games this season. They only trailed by 7 in a game when they didn't get the ball first.  Even if they were to get down by a couple of scores they still wouldn't pass the ball unless it's the closing minutes of the 4th quarter. They are going to set a new record for least amount of passes thrown all year and least amount of completions as well.  They havn't had the need to pass the ball yet this year even when teams put 10 or all 11 men in the box.  As for your comment about an unbalanced offense winning a couple of games, Augie has put up 27 consecutive winning seasons using the unbalanced attack.  I guess "the sun has been shinning on the dog's ass" for quite some time now.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: aufb05 on November 15, 2005, 09:24:44 pm
Damn Maddog I thought you were closer to my age - 59!! Ryan should be the IBFC player of the year for a lot more reasons then you listed. Great kid - great team.

Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: maddog8 on November 15, 2005, 09:28:06 pm
AUBF05 your just young looking I'm old from all the traveling
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: sotha sil on November 15, 2005, 10:15:34 pm
manny mills is my player of the year...in the CUW Lakeland game both he and the QB from lakeland had bad games but the QB from lakeland had more of a chance to make plays than Mills....Mills did what he could with min. carries...Lakeland won on defense....cuw didnt lose bc mills played bad but lake could have lost bc their qb didnt get them to the endzone without great field position....but i would give my kid props too...so until you give awards that ppl dont have to print out i will wait to see the conference awards....but given what i said idk how the lake QB did against everyone else...i just know mills lead in scoring and rushing and is the best athelete in the IBFC...but you have to get the ball to earn MVP....i do appreciate maddogs work bc he feels legit....kratz got 2nd team on your maddog but tore his acl before game one....and john mask a pre-season all american is over looked i have to question still your list...sergo isnt the best in the conference but did lead WR in tds gotta be a first team selection....maybe not the best WR in the league but still better than LCs WR
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: maddog8 on November 15, 2005, 10:32:03 pm
sorry sil, sorry your not happy but I said that some would be and other won't, again Kratz from MICHIGAN get my pick, Mask was never mentioned on any post only Robers and Drabeck and as for Mills he only had 70 yrds to LC qb 60 and he had less carries than Mills but maybe because he stands up at qb must be why? In addition He did lead Lakeland to there first Td and field position didn't matter BOTTOM LINE he lead his team to VICTORY. no prize for second place sorry sil. As for JOE he is an outstanding receiver but so was White for Lakeland. Alot of great players not all can be first team. So Sorry Sil! maybe next year you will make some selections like I asked people to do. (2) eyes can't see everyone on the OL. I stand by my choice and again NOT because he is my SON he was clearly THE BEST THIS CONFERENCE HAD TO OFFER, AND IT IS BECASUE OF THE HOGGGGGGGGGS LATER SIL PUDDY
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: baseman201 on November 15, 2005, 10:32:50 pm
I am 23, does that count as old??

Anyhow, Joe I hope you are right about the bright futures for the lower teams in the conference, it would be amazing to see them possibly turning their programs around, especially CURF, BU, and Greenville (who has already started to turns theirs around)

Wow, that was a great game to play in, overtime games are always pretty intense.  You have no idea what it was like to watch you take that back 90 yards for a TD. and also,  I was the one you talked to in the hallway before the game started to tell Platt whats up.

Maddog, I am assuming you went to the CURF Vs. Lakeland game.  I was the one who caught a pass jumping over a defender for CURFs first TD of the game in the corner of the endzone, if you remember at all, it was toward the end of the game I think.  But, that game was so cold, I don't rememeber much more than freezing my ass off anyhow.  And with exception of him being your son, either him or Mills should be the players of the year.  Your son did kick ass this year, and deserves votes for the conference player of the year.  I guess we will see if the conference agrees with you in the next few weeks, or whenever they come out with their selections.


Is D3football.com going to have a preview page for all the games this weekend??

And honestly, good luck to Lakeland this weekend, it would be an amazing win.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: maddog8 on November 15, 2005, 10:45:42 pm
Baseman I did go and remember your catch nice job. CURF played like true sportsmen. You could see they would not give up and I personally see CURF improving, they just need a players coach, or at least someone who cares. Rmember I stand in the zone!
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: maddog8 on November 15, 2005, 10:48:42 pm
One more thing sorry sil, Mills played 4 quarters a game from what I saw, Ryan played 4 quarters in ONLY 3 GAMEs yet still posted those stats. IN AN AVERAGE OF 2.3 QAUTERS A GAME FOR 10 GAMES. Imagine what his numbers would have been had he played all 4 quarters for 10 games like Mills? again 2.3 quarters for 10 games was the average time on the FIELD for HIM. Unbelievable isn't it!!!!!!
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: sotha sil on November 16, 2005, 01:13:35 am
no mills didn't play all over every game....our coach lets young players get time....no one played the second half of eureka and so on....but the two were sure up for player mills is just by far a better athlete
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Soulsenda on November 16, 2005, 01:55:39 am
hey whats up base, yea that was a fun friggin game to play in man.  I was gettin kindve mad bc coach wasnt giving me the ball at all til the end of them game but you guys played us harder than Eureka, Mac, and greenville(game whch we would have won if we had a kicker that game and didnt have to go for two)...Anyways good luck to you tell George I said whats up

Sil...How do u know Im not the best receiver in the conf?  Maybe Im not maybe i am.  I havent gotten to play a whole yr at receiver since coming to BU.  Ive played maybe a total of 15 games at receiver in 3 yrs.  I also have had to play HA QB and wing.  Kinda sux but whateva.  Football is football and I love the game and am just happy to be able to be on a field in an organized game.  Also,  I havent had the opp to have a QB or O line until this yr, barely (1st yr QB and 4 soph and one frosh O line).  I should complain but 90 catches and 17 touchdowns in 15 true games at receiver is ok with me.  I just wanna leave BU having it be a spark to the program and the IBFC becoming one of the best conf's in the country.  If i was on a team like Lakeland( like I should have been or Carthage or stayed at IWU)  then I would have been diff.  I really have no idea where I am going with except this.  The IBFC is on its way up.  The facilities are becoming topp notch.   Our stadium Im sure was exciting for everyone who has played on it in 2 yrs to be a blessing.  Go muskies and if u ask me I think there should be a conference champ game (even though we dont have more than 10 teams like SEC or big 12)...I would like to see the top two teams go at it one more time.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: sotha sil on November 16, 2005, 02:42:37 am
well, sorry you arent the best...but you are very good...try playing at a CUW or the new greenville off.  That would seem much rougher...The thing you have to look at is  who would start for other teams.  I believe you would start over a lot of guys but not all guys...You have been one of the best for two years which is admirable...also a hell of a return guy...not much a qb or hback at least against CUW...its my opinion of what I have seen of your play
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Gomer Pyle on November 16, 2005, 08:58:30 am
  Just looked at the D3 Top 25 and no LC.
   They don`t even show up on the "others receiving votes" section . Why is that?
 

Gomer, you say this all the time. No one disputes with you the fact that Lakeland is not ranked and did not get any other votes either.

No one that I have found on this board has said that Lakeland should be ranked or receive any votes. So why post it more than once?

I understand you're trying to be a reality check, but still... it's beating a long dead horse.

If I missed someone saying Lakeland should have gotten votes or be ranked, I apologize in advance.

As everyone knows, rank does not mean really all that much when it comes down to it. If you believe it does, than a win by Auggie by any less than 40 points would be a moral victory for Lakeland.

Hell according to some people on this board scoring at all should be a victory for Lakeland, because we are unranked unvoted for school...

The only way we KNOW who will win, will be about two and a half to three hours after kickoff... That is the only true fact right now

  Thanks for your comments. My point is that LC
  is the IBFC Champs and they get no respect. Why is that? All past champs were ranked. Maybe that`s why they(LC) are seeded 6th and Augustana is seeded 3rd. National ranking has a direct bearing on where a team is seeded plus other factors. I`m talking play-off pairings here.
   If you have another plausable answer for  "why" LC is not ranked in D3 and seeded 6th lets hear it.
   So far nobody has answered that question.
   You take me to task for bringing it up but offer no rebuttal to the original question.........WHY are they not ranked?  Is it the conference? The non-winning out side conference play? What? 
   You see it as "beating a long dead horse" I see it as you not having an definitive  answer.
    I`m not trying to bust your chops,  put how bout
your answer as to .......WHY.
   By the way, that question would stand no matter who was in their place.
    The LC...Augustana game could very well be like last years Aurora vs Wooster game.  IMO. Although i`m hoping for a better ending.
 
   
   
   
   
     
   
 
   

     
   
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: augiedogie on November 16, 2005, 09:22:14 am
Gomer Pyle:

I think that LC was the 6th seed because of their geographical location and closeness to Augustana. It was a surprise for Augie to find out they were going to play LC instead of Mt. St. Josephs because for the longest time the predictions were that they were going to be the 6th seed and have to travel to Augie.  They matched up 2 Ohio teams and pitted a Wisconsin team vs an IL team.  Now they are only predictions for a reason, but at first glance LC was rumored to play at Linfield and got a better draw as a 6th seed to play Augie.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Gomer Pyle on November 16, 2005, 10:24:36 am
Gomer Pyle:

I think that LC was the 6th seed because of their geographical location and closeness to Augustana. It was a surprise for Augie to find out they were going to play LC instead of Mt. St. Josephs because for the longest time the predictions were that they were going to be the 6th seed and have to travel to Augie.  They matched up 2 Ohio teams and pitted a Wisconsin team vs an IL team.  Now they are only predictions for a reason, but at first glance LC was rumored to play at Linfield and got a better draw as a 6th seed to play Augie.

  Thank you for your comments.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: FalconsFootball on November 16, 2005, 12:53:03 pm
Augi

My point was that unbalanced teams don't do well when they get tough opponents generally.  CUW has an unblanced offense and has for many years, we have also had a winning record for many years.  Yet when we play good teams and get forced out of our gameplan its trouble.  I never said AUG would be down by a couple of scores and I am certainly not taking anything away from them.  I just hate to watch teams that constantly run the ball.  Its not exciting ( to me at least ), but different strokes for different folks. 

As for the Maddog player of the year being LC's Qb he is a good player however, he only had one scoring drive aginast CUW and that was because a freshman linebacker somehow forgot our man coverage call and decided not to cover his receiver.

Southa don't worry about it I have been overlooked for the Maddog team pretty much every year I think and there is not a player in this conference (and hasn't been for years) that would start over me, and I have performed well against LC every year but like Maddog said he can't see everything.  Thats ok though good luck to Muiari (or however it is spelled) sat I hope he does well.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: maddog8 on November 16, 2005, 01:43:43 pm
Falcon thanks for understanding, I wish I could see and recognize all but I can't if you were overlooked I am truely sorry. You know I started to do this to give more recognition to DIII players but every yr I get trashed for my picks, This yr I asked for fan support to better my selections. Only to get a handfull of participants, and as you can see most of there selections were choosen. Especcially from CUW, I think I put all there selection on the 1st team, and they were very deserving. As for Mills, frankly WHO ever gets the Player of the year is fine with me, he worked very hard from what I seen of him, so did David Benton, Bobby Langston ect. sorry I tried my best. Any way all the right letters just out of line, Maiuri and thanks for your support its been a pleasure to be a part of the IBFC family. Sil honestly I was being very objective on my picks, the thing I learned over the past few yrs though was the Player of the Year usually went to the Conference Champs, as was lloyd last year from the Co-Champs CUW.
GO MUSKIES
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: aufb05 on November 16, 2005, 02:08:49 pm
Soulsenda-

Who is "pongo" and what was/is his relationship to your team?
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Soulsenda on November 16, 2005, 02:27:11 pm
auFb-

To be honest I dont even know, Im open about who I am and I honestly dont know who he is.  If he comes up to me on campus or messages me Ill tell ya as long as its not anything for the wrong reasons. 

Sil-

I think I would start at any school in the IBFC or DIII for that matter.  In my mind I think I would start at USC.  Now realistically I wouldnt but thats the mentality I have when I play.  In my mind I think Im the best and can anything and more that the guy next to me or in front of me can do.  Now obviously I wouldnt start over anyone at USC or anything that extreme but if you dont have that work ethic or confidence then you will just fall into the crowd of mediocrity.  I dont think Im a "3rd" team all conf guy.  I think I am the best in the conference.  Now i may not have the numbers or might not even be, but I have to approach football in that sense.  Im a sore loser to be honest.   I HATE LOSING.  I hate it so much that when I lose, I will work even harder to not lose again.  I dont care about all that mumbo jumbo about "losing is okay" and "its what you learn" which Has been implemented in some IBFC schools that have sucked over the past few yrs(Us included).   I say **** that.  Play to win not to just play.  And I also say play to be the best no matter what.  When I coach one day I will tell my kids to never accept losing, EVER.  I hate it.  Thats why I want to leave BU next yr leaving a program on the verge of becoming great and I believe they will be.  If I spent as much time typing on here as I did doing my friggin hw id be a str8 A student man. 

IN CLOSING, GO BEARS!
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: augiedogie on November 16, 2005, 03:06:07 pm
falscsfp:

Sorry for misinterpreating your post.  I thought u were talking about the type of offense Augie runs not CUW.  I wish sometimes Augie would be more balanced, but we don't have the weapons to try and do so right now. I still remember in '02 when for one play we came out in a 3 wide formation and it was in the 2nd quarter of the game. It confused everybody on D and unfortunately on O as well and was an imcomplete pass.  Anyways it's playoff time something that can't come soon enough. Good luck to Lakeland this weekend.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: uamusme on November 16, 2005, 04:02:05 pm
  Thanks for your comments. My point is that LC
  is the IBFC Champs and they get no respect. Why is that? All past champs were ranked. Maybe that`s why they(LC) are seeded 6th and Augustana is seeded 3rd. National ranking has a direct bearing on where a team is seeded plus other factors. I`m talking play-off pairings here.
   If you have another plausable answer for  "why" LC is not ranked in D3 and seeded 6th lets hear it.
   So far nobody has answered that question.
   You take me to task for bringing it up but offer no rebuttal to the original question.........WHY are they not ranked?  Is it the conference? The non-winning out side conference play? What? 
   You see it as "beating a long dead horse" I see it as you not having an definitive  answer.
    I`m not trying to bust your chops,  put how bout
your answer as to .......WHY.
   By the way, that question would stand no matter who was in their place.
    The LC...Augustana game could very well be like last years Aurora vs Wooster game.  IMO. Although i`m hoping for a better ending.

Sorry it seems like your last couple of posts like that have been rhetorical in nature.

As for why we aren't ranked or recieving votes whereas the last 3 years we've atleast had some mentioning of our conference in the voting. I don't know, maybe this year noone from our conference is on the voting committee? I know that the Coach from CUW is on the AFCA poll according to their website. Maybe our area of the country... mostly southeastern Wi and northern ILL is over looked, or maybe because we won very few out of conference games. It also doesn't help that Lakeland lost to UW-W by about 60...
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: d3ftball1 on November 16, 2005, 04:19:16 pm
soulsenda

Your post said "thats why you want to leave BU next year..."where are you going?
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Soulsenda on November 16, 2005, 04:38:18 pm
haha I meant when I leave after im done playing ball... I cant leave here.  I should have never came here to be honest but hey Ive enjoyed it here and the people are good the HOES are cute.  If it were my soph yr I would leave bc we had no coach and not alot of talent or players.  I got one semester of ball left here then Ill go play somewhere else if I get the opp, even if its a senior citezen flag league Ill keep playing til I cant walk.   Im not leaving BU though.  Not unless Lovie Smith calls me up and ask me to return punts bc WADE was blowing it, or the Eagles need me to step in for TO.  Otherwise IM here. 


Good luck muskies!
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: bufan on November 16, 2005, 04:38:49 pm
The only basis of my 38-7 prediction for the Augie victory is because I made it a point to see the Augie-Wheaton game and Augie just happened to get matched up with Lakeland.  And as for comparing stats against Carthage, that does not matter to a point.  It doesnt matter because yes it was in the beginning of the year and its all about match-ups.  You cant look at the stats of one game and translate them to another game predicting the outcome.  I cant remember who posted it, but "comparing scores or stats" is not the best way to gauge two teams, thats all.

Good luck to LC
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Brick on November 16, 2005, 04:44:33 pm
Augie people need to chill a bit. Come the freak down. We know how the IBFC is why come in an keep on saying it. At first I wasn't behind Lakeland because of unsportsmanship game and post-game. But they are representing and I hope they win. It would give IBFC some major needed respect. But good luck to Lakeland.
       
Are you saying that it will be easy to get inside of the Lakland Players Heads?????

BLA
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Gomer Pyle on November 16, 2005, 04:46:22 pm
  Thanks for your comments. My point is that LC
  is the IBFC Champs and they get no respect. Why is that? All past champs were ranked. Maybe that`s why they(LC) are seeded 6th and Augustana is seeded 3rd. National ranking has a direct bearing on where a team is seeded plus other factors. I`m talking play-off pairings here.
   If you have another plausable answer for  "why" LC is not ranked in D3 and seeded 6th lets hear it.
   So far nobody has answered that question.
   You take me to task for bringing it up but offer no rebuttal to the original question.........WHY are they not ranked?  Is it the conference? The non-winning out side conference play? What? 
   You see it as "beating a long dead horse" I see it as you not having an definitive  answer.
    I`m not trying to bust your chops,  put how bout
your answer as to .......WHY.
   By the way, that question would stand no matter who was in their place.
    The LC...Augustana game could very well be like last years Aurora vs Wooster game.  IMO. Although i`m hoping for a better ending.

Sorry it seems like your last couple of posts like that have been rhetorical in nature.

As for why we aren't ranked or recieving votes whereas the last 3 years we've atleast had some mentioning of our conference in the voting. I don't know, maybe this year noone from our conference is on the voting committee? I know that the Coach from CUW is on the AFCA poll according to their website. Maybe our area of the country... mostly southeastern Wi and northern ILL is over looked, or maybe because we won very few out of conference games. It also doesn't help that Lakeland lost to UW-W by about 60...

   Now your cook-in!    Thanks for the thoughts.
    Plus.............Rhetorical.  Now i know you had to reach down for that. LOL.  Just mess-in with ya.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: uamusme on November 16, 2005, 04:48:33 pm
   Now your cook-in!    Thanks for the thoughts.
    Plus.............Rhetorical.  Now i know you had to reach down for that. LOL.  Just mess-in with ya.

Nah I'm just your classic smart guy thats really lazy...
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: maddog8 on November 16, 2005, 06:07:33 pm
Just read the picks from this site and the have "THANKS FOR PLAYING AWARD" lAKELAND, My AZZ we come to WIN. Good joke though!!!!!!!!!1
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Big_Uns on November 16, 2005, 06:47:20 pm
I read that too Maddog...

More like "Thanks for the bulletin board material" Award.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: CardinalAlum on November 16, 2005, 08:27:54 pm
You guys thought the CCIW posters doubted you?  Take a look at the Around the Nation columns and then see why I said that you guys need to win a playoff game before you will get any respect.  It's not just us doubting you, it's everyone!
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: gc_fan on November 16, 2005, 08:31:16 pm
Has anybody heard any of the All-Conference selections that the coaches selected?  I thought they should be out either yesterday or today
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: maddog8 on November 16, 2005, 09:13:22 pm
The conference selections were done tonight. should see the postings tonight or tomorrow.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: maddog8 on November 16, 2005, 09:15:31 pm
I'd tell you who they are but I would rather the coaches of the respective team tell them in person not hearing them on this web site. 
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: gc_fan on November 16, 2005, 09:36:21 pm
Maddog - thanks for the info!
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Gomer Pyle on November 17, 2005, 07:56:44 am
You guys thought the CCIW posters doubted you?  Take a look at the Around the Nation columns and then see why I said that you guys need to win a playoff game before you will get any respect.  It's not just us doubting you, it's everyone!

  Just read the write up. If your a LC fan you won`t be happy. 
   Seems like the only way LC and the IBFC will get any respect ....... LC has to beat Augustana.
  Can LC beat Augustana? Certainly.  Will they? 
  Unlikely. 

     
     
   
 
   
   
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: maddog8 on November 17, 2005, 01:03:29 pm
Gomer I disagree LAKELAND will prevail Sat. Close game but will come out on top. Please afterwards don't tell us good job, because you haven't supported us all year don't start after Sat. you will jinks us

CONFERENCE PLAYER OF THE YEAR IN THE IBFC

RYAN MAIURI-----------------LAKELAND------------------QB

AS FOR THE REST OF MADDOGS PICK ON HIS ALL MADDOG TEAM I WAS OFF BY ONLY 2 PLAYERS ON MY OFFENSE!!!!!!!!!

IMMANUEL MILLS PLEASE NOTE YOU ARE STILL THE BEST RUNNING BACK IN THE IBFC AND WELL DESERVING OF THAT AND CONFERENCE PLAYER OF THE YEAR HAD YOU RECEIVED IT. 

WHERE IS SIL-LY----------NOI COMMENT!!!!!!!!!!!!
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: gc_fan on November 17, 2005, 01:14:23 pm
Maddog - Congrats to Ryan on his honor - go Muskies, represent the IBFC well!
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: maddog8 on November 17, 2005, 01:23:22 pm
I thank you GC-fan for Ryan but he will tell you its the Muskie team AWARD for if not for them he would not be getting this great honor. Go Muskies Sat. don't let the DOG down
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Gomer Pyle on November 17, 2005, 02:43:34 pm
 Maddog: Congradulations to your son on a fine season. I know your one proud dad! Great way to end a career.
  As far as being a LC fan....nope. 
  Your comment i took as being smart azz.  My comments are factual (some) and others are just
  my opinions. I guess you didn`t read  Around The Region today. They did not treat LC kindly. Are you going to tell them to back off? There are bigger fish on here(D3) then me so don`t jump on my case.
  Seems like i got your goat cause i`m not a LC fan or was it just my comments? 
  How lame is that? 
   One other thing, win or lose, i will post my thoughts. Civil of course. No jinks after the fact.
   If i`ve mis-interpreted you comments, my apologies.                                 
   

   
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: sotha sil on November 17, 2005, 03:30:00 pm
Where can we find the all conference selections?
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: disgracetofball on November 17, 2005, 03:44:55 pm
Its about time the CCIW said something and yes soulsenda is the best receiver in the conference.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Da One on November 17, 2005, 05:19:54 pm
soulsenda,
I played for Coop and Vinny Mac at AU.  Is Vinny Mac still dropping F-bombs all over the place and saying "You can't do that?"  Both are great coaches.  I have no doubt with the facilities and a little institutional support BU will be a winning program very soon.  Being an AU grad, saying that makes me sick to my stomach.  Hopefully with the right personnel BU will get away from the wing-t stuff(Vinny does know his stuff) and give you an opportunity to show cases your skills.  Stay the course and leave BU a better program than it was when you got there.

Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: maddog8 on November 17, 2005, 05:40:08 pm
Gomer, first thanks for the congrats to Ryan He will gladly except it for his team, Second I am just giving you s---t man, Thats what I dig about you man is your honesty. My point was AFTER we win the IBFC there first playoff game please don't start supporting our ban-wagon. I am superstisious and don't want to be jinks. Keep posting I enjoy your comments and attitude towards this conference and NO I did not read the article.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: uamusme on November 17, 2005, 06:39:03 pm
Ok, I'm not at all surprised for the lack of respect for our conference.

Do I think that Lakeland will win this weekend? I don't know. Do I think they have a decent chance of winning? Yes, if they can play 60 minutes of mistake free football. Mistake free means no stupid penalties, no turnovers, no blocked punts or missed PATs... etc.

Is this possible? Yes... Is this probable? Maybe not... we'll find out at about 3pm on Saturday.

Hey I think it would be great if all people going to the game from IBFC schools should wear their team colors in support of the conference... I think that show of solidarity would be great... I know I'll be doing it.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: footballfan05 on November 17, 2005, 06:54:09 pm
Da One,
   
       Vinny Mac still def. drops "You cant do that?" All the time, i played defense but just listening to him from the other side of the ball was hilariious and he is an excellent coach, as far as cooper i may have not always agreed with him but he has this program going in the right direction and it will be interesting to see the types of recruits he brings in.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: baseman201 on November 17, 2005, 07:00:18 pm
ok, so through all this playoff talk, I never thought to look at who Lakeland would play if they did actually win (which is unlikely to begin with).

Anyone heard of Mt. Union?

Wow, Mt. Union could have the easiest ride of anyone through the regions
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: vikes35 on November 17, 2005, 07:16:48 pm
If Lakeland beats Augie this weekend than Mt. Union's road becomes easier, but not by much. If Augie wins as they should, and although Wabash fans won't want to hear this, the Mt. Union/Augie game could become the regional championship. I would not say however that Mt's road is easy. If they win Saturday and then beat the winner of Augie/Lakeland they still have to face either Capital, North Central ( a very powerful 9-1 team) or Wabash in all possiblities. The North region is not the West, but it is still filled with a lot of talented teams. Plus ask anyone from the OAC board this Mt. Union team is very beatable, as ONU proved this year.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Soulsenda on November 17, 2005, 07:21:17 pm
HAHA   ...Coach Vinny McMahon is quite possibly the funniest man I have ever played for.  First oif all the man started the yr by calling every play we watched on film an "abortion".  He said I as well as another man on the team were midgets.  We have some classic Vince McMahon stories after only one yr.  He called one kid on our team a P u SS y for running slow.  He drops F bombs like theyre going out of style.  I love the man.  Most of all I love that he drives a a Silver Mitsubishi Eclipse.  Cmon.  The man is 80 yrs old driving a 22 yr old hott girl car.  I think he should be in the college football hall of fame.  Not to mention he has his own friggin book.  Against North Central he told me after the game I played really good and that my 200 yds receiving and two TD's was a class A  performance.  Then in film on Sunday he proceeded to tear into me telling me I was the worst receiver he had ever seen.  I couldnt stop laughing.  The man is amazing and he has already stated that if next yr I can get 15 scores he will run up and down the fied naked.  Now I dont know if Ill get that but Im sure all of u would love to see that...I know I would.  

*T.O.  leaves Eagles and joins the Lakeland Muskies for a one game contract.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: uamusme on November 17, 2005, 07:26:46 pm

*T.O.  leaves Eagles and joins the Lakeland Muskies for a one game contract.

No we'd bench him in a heartbeat... Zebrowski has done it in the past... horrible attitude... no play. His philosophy is what is best for the team... it's better for the team to not have a cancer like that playing for you, or even around on your bench.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: gc_fan on November 17, 2005, 08:24:01 pm
GREENVILLE, Ill. – The Greenville College football program has released honors awarded this fall. The honorees include:

Illini-Badger Football Conference
1st Team
J.R. Harriel – Linebacker
Terrance Poe – Offensive Line
Russell Reece – Defensive Line

2nd Team
Barton Davis - Linebacker
Jon DeJulio – Wide Receiver
Derek Robinson – Offensive Line
Kyle Sanniec – Kicker
Mark Schopp – Defensive Back

Honorable Mention
Alex Jones – Defensive Back
Anthony Lash – Running Back
Lee Thompson – Quarterback
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: maddog8 on November 17, 2005, 08:25:54 pm
Maddog has run into a problem for Sat. I was just notified that I have to work here at Ford Motor Company due to a fellow workers father passing away. I'm hurting for him but frustrated to have to mis this hugh game for the MUSKIES. Is there anyone who know how I can follow the game via internet, or possible giving me ther cell # on my e-mail to keep in touch or vis versa please help the helpless DOG out here. Here I already rented a car but unfortunately for my co-worker his situation is worse. Please let me know what the options are here thanks people
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: gc_fan on November 17, 2005, 08:39:35 pm
Maddog - this may help, the game is not listed but I don't see why it would not be broadcasted on here either given the fact that Augustana's other games were on here... http://waug.augustana.edu/sports.php
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: gc_fan on November 17, 2005, 08:44:24 pm
Re: the Greenville All-Conference selections that I posted, I know I am a biased fan being a Greenville alum and having worked for the team a few years back, but I am suprised that Reggie Anthony got no recognition for Punter.  Does this surprise anybody else?

PUNTING          No.  Yds   Avg Long  TB  FC I20 Blkd
-----------------------------------------------------
Anthony, Reggie   50 2059  41.2   67   4   5  15    0
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: maddog8 on November 17, 2005, 09:38:40 pm
gc-fan. thanks for the info hopefully it works as for Reggie Anthony I personally am shocked with no honors, Clearly the best punter in the conference but like the real work world sometimes coaches give alittle to get a little for other athletes. Bottom line POLITICS. Reggie is the best this conference has to offer in that position.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: d3ftball1 on November 17, 2005, 10:24:35 pm
gv fan

I was REALLY surprised about Reggie. He was ibc player of the week for 3 weeks. He is first in conference in punting and 9th in the nation in punting. He was also 23rd in the nation for forced fumbles. He really deserved a all conference spot. I know maddog said politics but I just dont see how even with politics he wouldnt get recognized.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: augiedogie on November 17, 2005, 11:43:11 pm
As gc_fan said you can listen to the game from the Augie website. Also there should be updates during the game on this website.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: uamusme on November 18, 2005, 01:03:32 am
Well we're about 36 hours away from the Game, I wish both teams good luck...

Play hard...
Play safe...
Play smart...

Let's have a great game, with everything being left on the field...

I'll see yah down there... I'll be a photographer on the sidelines...
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Gomer Pyle on November 18, 2005, 10:16:26 am
Gomer, first thanks for the congrats to Ryan He will gladly except it for his team, Second I am just giving you s---t man, Thats what I dig about you man is your honesty. My point was AFTER we win the IBFC there first playoff game please don't start supporting our ban-wagon. I am superstisious and don't want to be jinks. Keep posting I enjoy your comments and attitude towards this conference and NO I did not read the article.

   Maddog: Normally my sixth sense about stuff serves me well but it looks like this  time it was on vacation.
   Glad my apology ( if needed)  was in my comments.
   Just to stay in form........I got this from the D3
   2005 Play off Capsules:
    " How far will they ( Lakeland) go?"
    " Not very." "But a good introduction to the play offs".
      I`ve been were you are now, the only difference
    is it was twice.  Got beat twice.
     This years Lakeland team has the honor off being the "FIRST" LC team to go to the NCAA play-offs.  Other LC teams may get there as well but they were the first. Memories and bragging rights
   last for ever. Don`t forget the RING! 
   I`ll be watching the D3 scoreboard saturday..... 
    hope guys with score information will post .
    As i`ve said before," Can LC win? Certainly.
    Will they?  Unlikely." IMO.
   
   
   
   
   
   
   
     
     
     
   
   
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Gomer Pyle on November 18, 2005, 10:31:04 am
 Question: Does anybody know where the All IBFC
   teams can be found?  All schools 
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: uamusme on November 18, 2005, 11:23:48 am
Question: Does anybody know where the All IBFC
   teams can be found?  All schools 

Do you mean locations?

Lakeland - Sheboygan, WI
Concordia WI - Mequon, WI
CURF - River Forest, IL
Aurora - Aurora, IL
Eureka - Eureka, IL (near Peroria I think)
Benedictine - Lisle, IL
MacMurray - Jacksonville, IL
Greenville - Greenville, IL

or something else?
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: CardinalAlum on November 18, 2005, 11:27:20 am
I believe they were looking for the all conference teams.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: gc_fan on November 18, 2005, 11:29:12 am
good ? - the conference website does not have it
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: uamusme on November 18, 2005, 11:35:32 am
good ? - the conference website does not have it

Actually it does... but you have to click on the individual teams to find it
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Gomer Pyle on November 18, 2005, 01:34:36 pm
Question: Does anybody know where the All IBFC
   teams can be found?  All schools 

Do you mean locations?

Lakeland - Sheboygan, WI
Concordia WI - Mequon, WI
CURF - River Forest, IL
Aurora - Aurora, IL
Eureka - Eureka, IL (near Peroria I think)
Benedictine - Lisle, IL
MacMurray - Jacksonville, IL
Greenville - Greenville, IL

or something else?

   Something else? Yes.  There must be a "list" somewhere that shows the playeres selected  for the All IBFC teams and the schools they represent.
   Went to the IBFC site as gc_fan suggested.Checked the Mac site. As usual it was devoided of anything. In fact they still list the old SID whose been gone a year.  Good old Mac!
   Some schools list their selectees only, some don`t even do that.Oops, there`s Mac again.
    Talking about Mac, how would you like to be a senior or under grad playing football and your family and friends try to look your 2005 team picture and find they (Mac) still has the 2004 team picture posted? How lame is that ??  Come to think of it, the 2004 team probably doesn`t mind a bit. 
   
   
 
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: uamusme on November 18, 2005, 02:13:29 pm
Gomer,

If no one does it by like 10 tonight... I'll compile everything I can find and place it out here for everyone
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: sotha sil on November 18, 2005, 02:49:28 pm
Go ahead and put the stuff down. I know here at CUW the coaches and SID are gone already for the weekend.  A lot of guys are getting antsy.  It would be appreciated
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Gomer Pyle on November 18, 2005, 02:51:51 pm
Gomer,

If no one does it by like 10 tonight... I'll compile everything I can find and place it out here for everyone

  
  Thank you......................you get my vote for
    "Employee of the year."  Maddog`s not the only one who can dish out awards.  
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: 1assassin1 on November 18, 2005, 03:34:46 pm
well, well! I have been watching you IBFC reps, talk about your personal accomplishments for the past couple of days now and it is getting rather dry. My question goes to the soulspenda, not (soulsenda), Joseph Sergo how long have you been playing and how long do you plan on playing? I remember you when you were at IWU and was that awhile ago? The fact that you can even say your coach says if you score 15 td's, he shouldn't need to!!! Are you going to ever say I'm graduating!!!!!!
   You know as well as I do, you should be the best receiver for you have been at Benedictine (benediction) now for 3 years and are still considering coming back for another year? I'm sure you have records!!! Oh, my mistake I was checking and the receiving records at your school should have been broken quite awhile ago. (Maybe next year, you will use your EXPERIENCE at this level, because as we all know here in CCIW land, your success never started!! And by the way, (benediction) have no T.O's!!! I cant remember any good receivers in the last decade at your school and Eric Green is outdated
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: speedy1 on November 18, 2005, 03:53:59 pm
   All I can say is this,, I cannot even believe I am on this site but to whoever the p*ssy is sending messages under my name falsely, y dont you state your name because I know Sergs as I call him and we were on the same teams you were referring to. The situations Joe has encountered is similar to my last year and if he wants to come back another yr that's his business, are you knocking him because it isn't you? I can't wait to tell Joe this one!! All I know is I'm at my sisters place and I get a call saying Im talking about Joe?? Cmon someone is using my name one D3. How petty is that!!! Im 2 years removed from this so the next time, just think twice about using my name. Joe and I have always had a good relationship and will continue to have one. By the way this one is from Sebastian Singleton, I dont hide behind the name and I am not hard to find under Speedy1. Got something to say send it and we can chat about it if it is worth my time. Joe, its your world do what you do!!!!!
 Apparently whoever you are, you are juvenile to put some false info under my name. To set the record straight if you like, the correct company nimrod is Careerbuilder.com!!! I may even help you get a job, when you decide to graduate!!! And check again on the receiver records, maybe you need to do further research.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: speedy1 on November 18, 2005, 03:58:23 pm
 aww, this 1assassin1 character decided he wanted to erase his profile, what a coward. soulsenda if you read this anytime soon, do you have any idea why the IWU is hatin on my boy??? The last I checked you lead WRs in the conference in TD's right. Im not sure the assassin knows we still talk!! When you get this, get back at me, I will be at BU tonight!!
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: maddog8 on November 18, 2005, 04:21:20 pm
Sotha-sil, I do know that Manny Mills got 1st team running back and offensive back of the year, WR-stemmniez (sorry for the wrong spelling) first team , Robers and I forgot the others on the All Maddog Team got first team OL, Bobby Langston --- first team DL and Shared DL of the year honors with LC-- David Benton

The first unit at receivers were CUW--Stemmniez, Terry Martin--Mac and Joe Falliard--AU

Ryan Maiuri----QB-----LC and OFFENSIVE PLAYER OF THE YEAR

other lineman -----Bryon Vandlen---LC---OL of the year
Andrew Argall------LC
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: maddog8 on November 18, 2005, 04:25:56 pm
Some others on the first team D I remember are Wilbur Allen ---------CUW at Linebacker, Ryan Van De Loo------LC---LB of the year, JR Harriel----GC,  Jerrel Davidson--------AU, Robbie Perry---------AU--DB's Oh and Russell Reece-----GC---DL Again all the people I have given you are first teamers
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: GeTiTBoI on November 18, 2005, 04:35:28 pm
A Maddog I'm intrested in the O-Line first and second team I'm begging man can you please tell us that our coach hasn't told anybody anything yet
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: sotha sil on November 18, 2005, 04:39:23 pm
no john mask ol, jon collier wr, evan janousky db, rick hutchins db, scott gerhke lb, nick drabec ol?
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: bufan on November 18, 2005, 04:54:46 pm
assassin
 since when do u have to break records to be considered a great recevier???  As I was reading your post three names popped into my head.  Sebastian Singleton, who posted, Aaron Altenberg, and Cory Junious, and they all played together.  I hope your from North Central too because we beat you that year they all played, and actually broke the school's passing record of over 430 yards. BUT, if you arent from NCC thats fine, we still have had good receivers. Just because they dont break records they arent great? please clarify?
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: maddog8 on November 18, 2005, 05:43:12 pm
Sotha-sil, Drabec is on the line, Gerhke is at LB and I do believe Hutchins is at DB on the first Team. I think Collier was second team as were some others for CUW.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: maddog8 on November 18, 2005, 05:48:49 pm
I'm guessing here on one person but the 1st team OL was Vandelan--LC--OL of the year, Andrew Argall---LC, Terrance Poe---GC, Ryan Robers----CUW and Drabec----CUW, second I know were  Eder-----------LC, Deric Robinson------GC I don't remember the rest at this time
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: gc_fan on November 18, 2005, 10:01:46 pm
I just found this on the UMAC post patterns page posted by the UMAC commishioner..... It looks as though the SLIAC and UMAC conference football teams are going to form a new football alliance under the SLIAC name starting in 2008.  By 2010 the league will have an AQ.

A meeting was held in St. Louis on Monday and the presidents and athletic directors from the UMAC and SLIAC colleges have tentatively agreed on a 10-team 2-divison league.

The league will add MacMurray, Greenville, and Eureka, and lose Rockford and Marantha to the Lake Michigan
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: augievike93 on November 18, 2005, 11:01:57 pm
As gc_fan said you can listen to the game from the Augie website. Also there should be updates during the game on this website.

I don't know if they will have the webcast tomorrow.  Students do all the work on it and the school is on break.  Finals were this week.  (Augustana runs on a quarter calendar).
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: augievike93 on November 18, 2005, 11:25:32 pm
The wing-t can be stopped with a disciplined d and lakeland did see flashes of the wing t against CUW who does run it very well.  So i dont think the wing t will affect them that much as far as them knowing who has the ball. i think it will be augies physical ability to pound their opponents which will win this game. But i do think that North Central will have a better chance at coming out of this bracket even though augie beat them. Far fetched but wouldnt it be awesome to see a quarterfinal rematch between those 2.

Footballfan,
  The thing about Augie is that there is no secrets about what they are going to do. Run Run Run.  Where it gets difficult for the opposing D is that there are four capable players in the backfield that are able to be the 100 yd back for the game.  Roe (Augie QB) does a great job with concealing the handoff.  There is a lot of misdirection and timing with the OL on where the hole will be. 

Here is to a great game tomorrow...and an Augustana Win.  Go Vikings!
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: lem4094 on November 19, 2005, 11:09:12 am
Augie by 24
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: d3ftball1 on November 19, 2005, 01:55:05 pm
Augustana  21   Lakeland  7   2nd qtr
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Big_Uns on November 19, 2005, 03:17:00 pm
A couple missed opportunities by the Muskies. Should be closer at this point, but it's 35-9 at the start of the fourth.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: maddog8 on November 19, 2005, 04:07:54 pm
To Pam thanks for the updates, Should have been a better game, My hat goes to the Augie's Vikies, great job, Brad Wilk good try, it was unfortunate your career had to start this way but son you have a hellava future with the Muskies.

To my son Ryan, great come back for the Muskies, broken leg and all. Son you are a warrior, I can't believe you play with that broken Fibula and yet threw for almost 200 yrds and 2 TD's in your comeback after only 2 weeks rest on that leg. which by the way was broke in the second quarter of the Greenville game. I know you wanted to represent the IBFC better but I have to hand it to Coach "Z" for looking out for your health. that is the most inportant thing for your future. Be proud and I wish I could have been there.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: baseman201 on November 19, 2005, 10:38:45 pm
ok, so Grover and I made the trip to Augustana to see the game.

After Augie scored on their very first play from scrimmage (or maybe the 2nd, don't remember) with a 69 yard run, and on the next 2 possesions, I thought this game would get ugly real quick.  But Augie seemed to REALLY slow down after that, and didn't seem excited at all to play, they may have thought the game was over and just stopped playing.

But, I was wondering why Maiuri wasn't in the game, and Maddog explained that in his last post.  About #5 Wilk, he had like 4 chances (maybe more) for wide open deep TDs, and just mis-threw the ball, most of the time underthrown.  If he leads his receivers, than thats possibly 4 more scores for Lakeland.  I know its his first playoff game, but he needs to come through with those throws.  The WRs (Royal, White) did an amazing job catching the poorly thrown balls early, #10 (Royal) had an amazing one-handed grab to set up Lakelands first TD.

If Maiuri would have started, would the outcome have been different???  We will never know will we.

my prediction was pretty close, I said

Augustana - 45
Lakeland - 17

pretty good huh?

I am out
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: CardinalAlum on November 19, 2005, 10:45:05 pm
And the lack of respect just keeps on going!!  Lakeland learned that the IBC has no chance of winning a playoff game any time soon.  You guys want respect?  Better luck next year!!  You get none here! 
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: baseman201 on November 19, 2005, 10:45:56 pm
Agreed Cardinal...........Agreed
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: uamusme on November 19, 2005, 11:19:20 pm
And the lack of respect just keeps on going!!  Lakeland learned that the IBC has no chance of winning a playoff game any time soon.  You guys want respect?  Better luck next year!!  You get none here! 

Yeha, but I've also lost a lot of respect for the fans at Auggie... at least behind the endzones and closer to the sidelines. Yeah there were some late hits by lakeland, but there were also a lot of pass interferences by Auggie that were more than blatent. Also Auggie seemed to like hands to the head a lot on defense...

Does any of this make a difference to the way the teams played? no...

But it does show just a general lack of respect for student athletes from other schools... I wish that they would actually enforce the derogitory comments rule sometimes... It was that bad...
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: dansand on November 20, 2005, 09:25:31 am
I'll have to disagree with some of my CCIW friends. While it's clear that there was a big difference in the level of play between the two teams, I give the Muskies a lot of credit for playing this one out. They easily could have packed it in down 21-0 with 2 minutes still left in the first quarter. Also, a lot of credit to Maiuri for playing on a bad leg. I made the comment several times during the game that Augie's tackling was pretty bad, but in retrospect some of that was due I'm sure, to Lakeland's runners finishing off their runs (as well as a noticeable drop in intensity by Augie after getting a big lead). Does respect for an opponent mean you think they or their conference is on the same level of play as yours? No, in this case it has more to do with guys playing hard and being willing to play hurt.

Uamusme, you can't expect fans (some of whom are friends and relatives of players) to not complain on cheap shots. The most blatant one I saw was when Aaron Kuzniar got planted well after the play was blown dead for illegal procedure. It wasn't called and Augie fans were, justifiably, upset.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Brick on November 20, 2005, 11:24:29 am
All but seven of their points were scored on 2nd string Augie Defenders.....
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: uamusme on November 20, 2005, 01:04:54 pm
All but seven of their points were scored on 2nd string Augie Defenders.....

So, that means nothing really... Other than it makes you feel better that a team from a " 2nd rate conference" can't score on your amazing defense...

Respect is different than what you think apparently. You don't earn respect by playing at all according to you... The only way to earn respect is to win... Now pardon my french, but that is bull****...

I respect anyone who is wiilling to put their body on the line just to try and boost a team.

Maiuri, man you're amazing... I wonder how the game would have turned out if you hadn't have BROKEN your leg... We'll neve know, but you have more balls than any other player I have ever seen in D3

Uamusme, you can't expect fans (some of whom are friends and relatives of players) to not complain on cheap shots. The most blatant one I saw was when Aaron Kuzniar got planted well after the play was blown dead for illegal procedure. It wasn't called and Augie fans were, justifiably, upset.

Oh no... I have no problem with that if it's the play like you're talking about were Van de Loo laid the guy out after the play was over... thats fine. Be angry, yell all you want.

But it's more being up by like 30 points and yelling things about someones parent or girlfriend, or you know whatever... that just shows a complete lack of class that I wasnt expecting from Auggie.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: vikes35 on November 20, 2005, 03:15:00 pm
uamusme,

Ok I know who those guys are and if you want to base your perception of our fans off of that than you need to take a second look. If you would have sat in our seats and sat with our FANS you would know that we respect and love good football, and we cheer for our VIkings til the end. Please do not rip on our fans if they are being obscene, because those are not our real fans.

Also at Augie the only way our football team gets respect from the faithful is by winning. We have 4 Nat'l titles and 20 CCIW championships, winning is expected. We have had the same problem of people leaving their 1st string in against our 2nd string, and I agree with AUGIE2000, those points mean nothing to us. In our conference we are a powerhouse and it is expected for us to do well. That is how our team gets its respect, by doing what the program has done for the past 30 years.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: augievike on November 20, 2005, 03:39:53 pm
Talk about classless how about your defencive linemen telling our offensive line that they were gonna try to blow out their knees so their season would be over too.  That is just wrong when a player threatens physical injury like that.  To me players that like number 99 i believe was the worst at the trash talking should never be allowed to play the game.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: GeTiTBoI on November 20, 2005, 04:56:58 pm
I'VE BEEN WATCHING THIS BS TALK ABOUT HOW OUR IBFC IS NO GOOD BUT THAT WASN'T OUR BEST TEAM OUT THERE SAT CUW IS THE BEST TEAM IN THE IBFC LAKELAND BEAT US OFF 2 MISTAKES THEY SCORED ***1**** OFFENSIVE TOUCHDOWN AND COULDN'T SCORE A TD WHEN THEY GOT THE BALL AT THE 10 BECAUSE THEY BEAT US ONE TIME OUT OF THE LAST 100 EVERYBODY JUMPING ON THEIR FREAKING BANDWAGON RIDING THEM LIKE THEIR JUST THAT MUCH BETTER THAN US WE LOST 4 STARTERS COMBINED THIS YEAR THAT MEANS 18 RETURNING STARTERS AND A COUPLE GOOD FRESHMAN THAT DIDN'T REALLY PLAY THIS YEAR..WE'LL SEE WHO ALL THIS TALK WILL BE ABOUT THIS TIME NEXT YEAR WE WOULD HAVE BEEN A BETTER MATCH UP WITH AUGGIE AND REAL FOOTBALL FANS KNOW IT
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Pat Coleman on November 20, 2005, 05:03:48 pm
I am sure there is no need to shout.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: baseman201 on November 20, 2005, 05:06:55 pm
uhm GeTiTBoy,


CUW would have gotten the crap kicked out of them too.  Wouldn't have mattered who represented the IBFC.

Maybe next year you say??  CUW may win the IBFC next year sure, but win a playoff game?  Come on now, don't think so.

18 returning starters that didn't play?  How does that make any sense?
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: GeTiTBoI on November 20, 2005, 05:15:34 pm
I said 18 returning starters.......I'll break it up for and a few good freshmen that didn't play. I was recurited HEAVILY by Auggie so I know what they are about we have guys that can play on alot of the top teams in D-III we shall see baseman and I beg of you we need no one on our bandwagon
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: GeTiTBoI on November 20, 2005, 05:17:49 pm
Not to mention we were 8th in the nation in rushing with 9 1/2 games played we also had two QBs with no experience. We will see CUW will get that first IBFC play off win
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: grover1728 on November 20, 2005, 05:30:25 pm
People are all talking about how augustana beat the crap out of Lakeland.    I think even augie fans should realize that there is no reason the game should have been 21-14 or even 21-21 halfway through the second.  There were at least 4 passes that were underthrown to receivers who were either wide open, or had their corners beat deep.  Lakeland had their back-up QB the whole first half, and then had Mauiri in for the 2nd half.  Anyone who has seen lakeland and Mauiri play knows that Mauiri gets lots of things done with his feet, which obviously he didn't have because of a broken leg.  Anyways, what I'm saying is that if Lakeland had their full team, i think it would have been closer.  I still think Augie would win, but it would have been a better game.

Getitboi -
I played against CUW this year and yeah, you guys were good.  We're you better than Lakeland???  Well they beat you.  You can't argue with that.  I would say you are both pretty evenly matched, but Lakeland had a more versitile QB with talents in both passing and running.  However, there is no way that you can say that CUW is far superior to Lakeland. 
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: dansand on November 20, 2005, 05:38:53 pm
I was recurited HEAVILY by Auggie so I know what they are about we have guys that can play on alot of the top teams in D-III

But they don't; they play at Concordia. ;)
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: augiedogie on November 20, 2005, 05:45:11 pm
Grover:
Augie scored on the 1st play of the game. They had 3 Td's before Lakeland had 3 first downs.  I can only recall 2 huge plays where the corners were burned deep. The fake reverse play, and the 4th and 1. Even then, 1 of the deep guys was covered while the other made a great catch. Even if Lakeland would have scored 1 or more td's in the first half of the game, they weren't able to stop Augie's attack. They put up 35 in the first half and could have done the same thing in the second half if they had wanted to. Lakeland won the second half 15-14 while keeping their starting receivers in against Augie's 2nd string defense.

People are all talking about how augustana beat the crap out of Lakeland. I think even augie fans should realize that there is no reason the game should have been 21-14 or even 21-21 halfway through the second.
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You are right, there is no reason why Lakeland should have scored that many points in the 1st half and they didn't.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: grover1728 on November 20, 2005, 06:08:53 pm
There were 2 other underthrown balls that half, the first #1 dropped the pick, and the second #1 caught the pick.  But in both instances, WR #1 had gotten behind the Augie corner.  Yes, after those plays Augie did manage to put up 35 in the first half.  But we can only imagine the possibilities if the score was 21-21.  All i'm saying is that Lakeland did have some chances to stay in the game.  After the quick 21 put up by Augie, lakeland stopped them for a couple of drives. 
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: baseman201 on November 20, 2005, 06:18:59 pm
Lakeland stopped them because Augie for some reason just quit playing it seemed like to me.  They just didnt have any fire after their first 3 scores. 

I agree, the score could have been alot worse if Augie stayed fired up after their first 3 scores, and kept their starters in. Lakeland definately would NOT have come out with 22 points. Grover, don't make me come accross the hall and beat you with my bad arm.

GeTitBoY........you got burned..............burned hard
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: GeTiTBoI on November 20, 2005, 06:27:55 pm
People are all talking about how augustana beat the crap out of Lakeland.    I think even augie fans should realize that there is no reason the game should have been 21-14 or even 21-21 halfway through the second.  There were at least 4 passes that were underthrown to receivers who were either wide open, or had their corners beat deep.  Lakeland had their back-up QB the whole first half, and then had Mauiri in for the 2nd half.  Anyone who has seen lakeland and Mauiri play knows that Mauiri gets lots of things done with his feet, which obviously he didn't have because of a broken leg.  Anyways, what I'm saying is that if Lakeland had their full team, i think it would have been closer.  I still think Augie would win, but it would have been a better game.

Getitboi -
I played against CUW this year and yeah, you guys were good.  We're you better than Lakeland???  Well they beat you.  You can't argue with that.  I would say you are both pretty evenly matched, but Lakeland had a more versitile QB with talents in both passing and running.  However, there is no way that you can say that CUW is far superior to Lakeland. 
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: GeTiTBoI on November 20, 2005, 06:32:29 pm
Never did I say we are FAR superior than Lakeland I said they aren't better than us meaning we pretty equal across the board expect they had a veteran and pretty good QB we had a freshman and seeing action for the first time QB. Your quoting me with my post right below man get it right....
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: augiedogie on November 20, 2005, 06:34:26 pm
baseman:

Augie has the tendancy to come out of the gates hard in the 1st quater. They got up 17-0 against NC in the first half and they were up 21-7 against Wheaton in the first half. They for some unknown reason tend to have a not so great 2nd quarter. They let North Park stay in the game early along with an IWU team they put away later in the game.  Augie did seem to get complacent after the 1st quarter and to start the 2nd half. They seem to have an ok 3rd quarter but put teams away in the 4th.  It should be a great matchup @ Mt. Union this weekend.  I give Lakeland a lot of credit for staying in the game and doing whatever they needed to try to score. The gutsy 4th and 1 long bomb certained fooled the Augie D along with the fake punt from deep in their own territory. 
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: GeTiTBoI on November 20, 2005, 06:38:32 pm
Dansand Lets hear all this Auggie talk when The "U" of D-III stomps a mudhole in them.... ;)

And the reason I didn't choose Auggie I'd rather play for a team with a little diveristy just a little!!
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: vikes35 on November 20, 2005, 06:48:24 pm
GetitBoy

So you were heavily recruited by AUGIE (one G so get it right). Then why didn't you play for us. If you wanted diversity we have it, you should come out to a game and see. Of course at a private school it is going to be heavily white. I am not being racist that is just the way it is. The fact is our team is top 10 in the nation and nobody in your conference is even ranked. It didn't matter what team we played from your conference we would have beaten them. We are not saying that your conference is bad, we are just saying that the CCIW is one of the toughest conferences in the nation and that Augie is one of the powerhouses in that conference. The only reason the game was so close was simply because Augie played even more conservative than normal in the second half for the second straight week with a big lead. If you wanted to see Augie play 60 minutes of all out football the score would have been something like what UW-W did to them early.

Also you think you are better than Lakeland, then my question is why didn't you beat them? The fact that they only scored one touchdown on offense means nothing to me. I read the press relaese and you guys did absolutely nothing the last 3 quarters. If you want to win you have to play the whole game, something you did not do on that Saturday.

Also why don't you go over to the OAC board and check out what the people are saying about the Augie/ MUC game next week. They admit they are beatable and they are saying that Augie would be just the team to do it. You haven't seen us play all year, so don't act like you know a thing about our football team. They are equal to MUC and the game is going to be a tough battle. At least our team is still playing, as you have to sit at home and type about what might have been.


To all posters:

Why is it that so many active players are posting on this site? I know that CCIW players are not allowed to post of these sites, why don't the coaches from the IBFC stop their players from doing the same? It seems to me these guys should care more about playing then they should reading what we all have ot say.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: dansand on November 20, 2005, 07:01:53 pm
vikes35,
I figured he just meant more diversity on offense. I could be wrong.

GeTiTBoi,
The word Augie (or Auggie) didn't even appear in my post.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: GeTiTBoI on November 20, 2005, 07:05:29 pm
 Wow so passionate..Active players should be posting not fake chris bermans and mel kiper jr's....You haven't seen our team play so how could you say something about a press release. Were you guys better than Carthage last year when they beat you or how about Central when they beat you by one go ask your players I bet they would tell you they were so that who arguement is out the window...I just didn't want to go there still don't I'm happy with my choice.. Coming on this board and bashing IBFC is a slap in the face of every player and coach in this league and I'm not saying the IBFC is all that great but were good and LC is good there will be a shift in power soon...And no more talking about what could have been it is what its going to be.

No I was talking about the pop. you were right.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: GeTiTBoI on November 20, 2005, 07:11:18 pm
It didn't have to..you have it in you picture
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: grover1728 on November 20, 2005, 07:11:53 pm
Vikes35 -
We (baseman and I) are no longer active players as of 3 weeks ago.  Our college playing days have come and gone, which went by far too fast and saddens me.  But what does posting have to do about the desire to play?  It's not like any current players are talking ****.  This site is merely an online convo about football.  If you don't like it, get off the IBFC page.

While I despise mequon( Muck Fequon  ;)  ) getitboi has a point.  One thing i noticed was that every single Augie player was white.  Sure there may be diversity on the campus, but not on the team.  Mequon is a much more diverse squad, as are most IBFC schools.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: dansand on November 20, 2005, 07:14:28 pm
GeTiTBoi,

Just so you know, Augie beat Carthage 35-0 last year. They've lost a lot of tight games the past few years, mostly to Wheaton. While dissappointed, I don't recall any Augie backers saying that the CCIW didn't send their best when Wheaton went to the playoffs. As far as bashing your conference, if you look at my posts, I've said nothing negative about the IBFC, unless you consider pointing out that the CCIW is better as negative. It's also true.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: GeTiTBoI on November 20, 2005, 07:17:48 pm
I'm talking about just you since the playoff pairings were announced people have been on here talk a whole bunch of trash just downing the entire IBFC I understand top to bottom were no where compared to CCIW didn't know that when I committed but I know now but our top 2 teams would compete in your league not saying we would have the 7-3 or 8-2 like we had this year but we would compete i.e lakeland vs carthage 20-16
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: GeTiTBoI on November 20, 2005, 07:19:15 pm
My bad I thought ya'll lost to carthage the way Coach Rucks were talking about ya'll when i said Augie was in the hunt for me
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: uamusme on November 20, 2005, 09:19:16 pm
were good and LC is good there will be a shift in power soon...

Um... I'm wondering where this shift is... I mean ... AU won a couple, then Mac, then CUW then the Split, then Lakeland... we seem to not have a shift, but a revolving door when it comes to our playoff representitive...

If you're talking about power in the conference... and CUW being not powerfull now and shifting to powerful... I think you're wrong. There was a shift of power 3 years ago when Zebrowski came to Lakeland. He took a passing team and with basically the same players minus about 3 freshman starters and turned them into a contender... So I guess unless you are talking about GC or BU jumping up, or a resurgence of Mac, I think you're mistaken... because CUW has been on/near the top of the conference for about the last 4-5 years.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: augievike93 on November 20, 2005, 10:20:06 pm
I was recurited HEAVILY by Auggie so I know what they are about.

Yet you still don't know how to spell "Augie."  Amazing....
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: vikes35 on November 20, 2005, 11:38:31 pm
Going to have to disagree about diversity. I would say that most of our players are white, but we are starting to get more minorities on to the campus and the football team. The problem is that there are very few that apply. Augie tries to make it accessible but the numbers just aren't there. If we can't get a larger minority population in that is not our fault as long as we are trying that is all people can ask of the school.

To all of the IBFC guys I am not saying anything against the conference as you guys are good and can play a tough game (I saw that yesterday) I was just saying that the CCIW is one of the toughest conferences in DIII, and it is going to send a rep to the playoffs that is probably better than the IBFC. It was not a cut and I am sorry if it came across the wrong way. I am sure the people who do not have thin skin are able to admit that, hopefully next year is the year, and good luck to all.

As for active players posting on the board, I was only talking about what seemed to be a couple of obvious ones. Grover1728 if getitboi is an active player he seems to be talking trash with his comments. I was just pointing out that CCIW players are told to stay off the boards because they should be focused on the games they play not the computer screens. It seems to me that if an active player is on a board it is taking from his concentration towards actually playing football, and I am sure many coaches and CCIW fans agree with me. If coaches have no problem with it in the IBFC that is fine with me, I just think they might get players who are more focused if they told them to stay away from the boards.

Also if the shift of power concerned is the fact that the IBFC will be better than the CCIW next year or in the near future lets get serious. The CCIW is going to return teams from Wheaton, North Central College, and Augie that are going to be able to compete with most in the nation next year. The IBFC is a good but not great conference, but lets not get carried away with how good they really are. It will be tough next year for the IBFC to get a playoff win against the CCIW if the matchup went that way.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Augie6 on November 21, 2005, 12:00:19 am
GetiTBoI,

IMO, don't think it's a big deal whether active players (or those recently "retired", grover and baseman) are posting on the site or not.  I think it can add a little more interest to some of the discussions that occur on this site.  However, please be careful about describing non-active players posting on this site as "fake Chris Berman's or Mel Kiper Jr.'s".  A large number of posters on this site are former DIII player's who have excellent insights and truly understand DIII football.

As for the respect issue, we played against a lot of different teams with much lower talent levels than we had during my 4 years at Augie.  The teams I had respect for were the one's who played hard to the whistle, didn't give up and didn't feel the need to talk a lot of "trash".  Most of the teams we played against met this criteria.  In my mind, the respect I had for them wasn't about the final score, it was about the effort they gave.  Based on what I've heard and read about yesterday's game, it sounds like Lakeland met this criteria.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: superstar on November 21, 2005, 12:08:25 am
To all of the IBFC guys I am not saying anything against the conference as you guys are good and can play a tough game (I saw that yesterday) I was just saying that the CCIW is one of the toughest conferences in DIII, and it is going to send a rep to the playoffs that is probably better than the IBFC.

I dont think anyone argues about the cciw being a tougher conference than the illini badger.  i played for aurora 2 years with an independent schedule and two years in the ibc.  we went 14 and 0 thru the ibc those two years and got screwed on an at large bid which would of allowed for a great matchup in 1999 against augie.  we had the a top 5 rush defense and all kinds of weapons on offense.  i forget who got in insted of us but i believe that  the ibc would of beat the cciw that year.  every year at this time it drives me nuts that we didnt get that opportunity.  so i had to bring it up.  that sucks about lakelands qb being hurt.  i thought that this year would of been comparable to 1999 and it would of been a great game.  of course 1999 never happened.  would of could of should of.  this is about illinois football verse ohio now.  i am tired of mount union so i hope augie opens up a can on their azz.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Brick on November 21, 2005, 12:29:59 am
Who cares is There are not many minorities at Augie....Augie is a school that prides it's self on being a student first and an athlete second....GeTITboI if you were so heavily courted by Augie I'm sure Coach Barnes talked with you about this....
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: dansand on November 21, 2005, 06:38:59 am
For what it's worth, since we're talking about diversity, fully 1/3 of the players in Augie's basketball program are African-American.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Gomer Pyle on November 21, 2005, 07:18:42 am
 Open question: Anybody heard anything reguarding Coach Frey at Tri-State?
   
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: baseman201 on November 21, 2005, 12:01:16 pm
Oh yeah, Grover and I went to a private high school with only one black guy in the school, and come to think of it no hispanics either.............

Anyhow, the only black kid in the school gets kicked off the basketball team for being at a party, yeah..................thought it was kind of funny, pretty ironic...............Has nothing to do with the IBFC and D-III football, but the season is over anyhow.................yeah............ ..................I am done

Hope you enjoyed the story
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: gc_fan on November 21, 2005, 01:02:50 pm
Gomer, I don't know if this is any more than you know, but Frey is no longer at Tri-State (an assistant is listed as the interm Head Coach) also, last monday there was a job announcement for the Head Coach position there on footballscoop.com.  As far as where Frey is now, I have no clue
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Gomer Pyle on November 21, 2005, 01:54:00 pm
Gomer, I don't know if this is any more than you know, but Frey is no longer at Tri-State (an assistant is listed as the interm Head Coach) also, last monday there was a job announcement for the Head Coach position there on footballscoop.com.  As far as where Frey is now, I have no clue

 That`s what i thought ( no longer the head FB coach).
    He departed Mac about 3 years ago to a better job (Tri-State)... So he thought.
    But after winning only (2) games out of (30) looks like the Admin at Tri-State had had enough.
   
   
   
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: bufan on November 21, 2005, 03:08:11 pm
Augie, i agree that current players should not be able to post on here, or atleast their coaches should disallow it.  I remember my freshmen year, our coach found out this other kid did, and went ape sh*t.  Its a good rule that your coaches do that and even better that the players abide by it.  As for the crime scene in Rock Island...I am a firm believer that Augie got lathargic after the 1st quarter, and for whatever reason arent as good in the 2nd, every team has some sort of quarter they funk in.  Im sure Augie will not "funk" in the MT Union game, no matter what the score is, they wont be slumping.

GeTiTboi - I agree CUW would have given them a game more so.  CUW d-line was better and running back were superior to Lakelands.  And I dont care what the all conf. said, im telling u a fact based on blocking them.  CUW has probably been the best team in my opinion all 4 years at BU, except maaaybe AU last year, but i believe AU beat them 24-7 or so.

And I find it admirable that Mauri played on a bum leg, but was it a stress fracture or are we talking Joe Theisman?(probably not joe theisman but I mean a legitimate break?)
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: maddog8 on November 21, 2005, 04:55:52 pm
Ryan had a clean break through the fibula actually I am totally supprised he did play but then againt I 'm not because of his heart for the game, his team and the conference. Had he been healty he would have made a bigger difference in the score. He did well under the surcomstances, throwing for 181 yrds and (2) TD's throwing off his right leg not using his left leg which a right handed QB throws off of. BU FAN-Lakeland was clearly the best team the conference had to offer, CUW no didcredit but you could not have represented us any better, if you could of you would have beaten us when YOU HAD A 14 POINT lead WHICH YOU LOST!. Drop the topic you lost the game and it is over, Would-hv,, Could-hv, Should-hv, you guys are killing me. All you had better was the RUNNING BACK that is IT!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: formerd3db on November 21, 2005, 05:11:14 pm
bufan:
Just and FYI.  That's been the "unwritten" rule on all the boards since the inception of this website (and certainly is the rule for almost all the head coaches of the DIII schools as far as we know) i.e. that current players (and/or coaches) are not to post on this website during the season.  Most people do not have a problem with them doing so during the off-season. 
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: sotha sil on November 21, 2005, 06:38:50 pm
maddog, to say we ONLY had a better RB is crazy...would you honestly only take our RB if you could have the best talent from CUW? the stats do not always speak of the talent....you know there are plenty of guys at CUW you would not blink before you jump on the chance to take them for lakeland....not to say the other way around isnt the same
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: maddog8 on November 21, 2005, 07:23:23 pm
Sotha-sil, I would definately take many CUW players, I was saying that the running back was the only area where we did not have a comparable athlete like Mills, as for Allen and Langston, Collier, Stemminz etc. yes I would take in a heart beat, but Lakeland also had comparable plauers, in Benton, Zeck, Van De Loo, White etc. my point was CUW was not any better than Lakeland for this playoff game. both teams were great this season and both would have made great reps for the conference. Lakeland served us well. I was just telling BU-Fan that CUW was not better than Lakeland this year only.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: sotha sil on November 21, 2005, 09:16:03 pm
love ya maddog...thought u ment other wise
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: maddog8 on November 21, 2005, 11:07:36 pm
Thanks Brother
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Fluffypuppy on November 22, 2005, 07:46:56 am
Just to add to that 99 Aurora team that did not get a playoff bid.  They were a talented team that yr, only lost to Millikin by 2 that yr @ millikin, and had a chance to win it at the end.  yes cciw is a much stronger conference.  HOpefully Augie can knock Mount Union out this yr.  They played em tough in 00 or 01 at Mt Union, but I do not believe this Mt Union team is near as strong as that team was.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: augiedogie on November 22, 2005, 09:11:57 am
Fluffypuppy:

Augie played Mt. Union tought in '99 but got destroyed in the '01 game. It's unfortunate that the game is at Mt. Union because Augie could have very easily gotten the 2nd seed in the region. This '05 team has a better chance than the '99 and '01 team did of beating Mt. Union, but they would have to play a perfect game to stand a chance.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Fluffypuppy on November 22, 2005, 03:13:04 pm
augiedogie,

sorry I met the '99 team that had mcpeek and chorney on it, well they were still probably on it in 01 along w/ several other great players.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Soulsenda on November 22, 2005, 03:26:49 pm
people need to just stop talking S h it  on her and then maybe there wouldnt be these ridicolous arguments.

As far as people posting on here who play, its called self defense and pride.  If someone bad mouths me they know its coming right back at them.  I dont hide who I am or where I go to school.  Im a captain and if people bad mouth my players or team I aM GONNA STAND UP FOR THEM.  For too long people have gotten away with running their mouth and all that.  Most of the people who talk didnt even start or play on their teams.  If u ask me I think u should post while ur in college and when ur done ur done.  I will have no interest in posting on here when my college days are over, maybe because I will have a lice and more important things to do.  Its okay to have an opinion but to come on here and argue with college kids or bad mouth someone is immature and plain retarded.  Seriously, talking bad about someone on here with no cause or in defense is about as cool as cancer.  No girl is gonna see it and wanna blow you or think your cool nor is it gonna make you an all american or the next Lee Corso.  I say stuff on here but I only do it in defense and then I back it up on the field.  BOTTOM LINE.  If youre gonna talk dust say who you are, what uve done to be able to say anything or be worthy to have an opinion(which doesnt include being fat, out of shape, and working at Subway) and be prepared for a response,  BOTTOM LINE.  Go bears!!!  Anyone else wanna back me up on this or is everyone gonna attack me?  Either way its cool. 


*** AND one more friggin point.  Whats with this friggin XBOX360 bull Sh  it.  Lining up outside stores all night for it.  HOW UNBELIEVABLY GAY.  Number one, our country is so lazy theyd rather play a friggin videogame than do something useful..HOw pathetic.  And two,  Id rather play nintendo's old school Tecmo Superbowl than any of these gay games.  And for the record I beat BUFAN in a game of Tecmo Bowl and he claimed to be the best ever.  And by the way BUFAN is prolly the best athlete that posts on here.  He could dominate any offensive   tackle or end in D3.   ONE...
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Big_Uns on November 22, 2005, 03:53:42 pm
While I don't agree with Mr. Sergo completely, I will say that it is pretty dumb to talk smack about any particular player. Give credit where credit is due, they're out there on the field giving in their all. I don't think I've ever once ripped on any player, and I don't plan on it. I'm nothing but a well-informed spectator. What grounds do I have to rip on a player?
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: sotha sil on November 22, 2005, 03:59:36 pm
I am gonna have to disagree about the Xbox 360....We got to the store at 545 this morning....granted we were like the 100th person there and didnt get one....We came back and played tecmo super bowl...I won 7-6 (special teams is an important factor Im tellin ya)...I guess Im so "gay" my screen name, sotha sil, is from a video game....You may get me at tecmo but come see me at halo lol
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: sotha sil on November 22, 2005, 04:02:37 pm
Oh, if anyone is interested on the CUW website they have all the first team selections up...a few guys on there that were posted as being second teamers....yall scared a few people on here
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: vikes35 on November 22, 2005, 05:48:01 pm
Soulsenda,

I actually am a college student myself at Augie and if you think I am bashing on you guys I am not. I was just saying that it seems like the coaches should keep you guys away from this site and the board. I do not play but know some of the players for our team and Coach Barnes has told them to stay away and not to be a part of it. I am truly happy that you are passionate about your football team and playing, I was just making mention that in many other conferences and for most teams in the division active players are not allowed to post.  If you get bashed on here, I would find it more fitting to come back the next week and shove it in their face by showing effort on the field, not by typing some words onto a computer. I do not bash players unless I have seen something in person that deserves mention. I am an extremely well informed fan about our football team, and I was just making a comment about something I knew about our conference. It was not meant to be a burn or cut at you guys, more a question about what the coaches have to say about it.

However calling people retarded and GAY is immature and I don't think that was necessary no matter who you were talking about. I agree with being kind to others, but afford them the same curtosy. Not everyone you meet are you going to like, don't waste so much energy talking like that, instead focus on positives. In no way was I trying to be rude or a jerk, and nor do I dislike anyone on this board. I am saying flat out if coaches don't have a problem with you guys being on here that is fine with me, it was just an observation from another conference that had different rules. Good Luck to the IBFC in 2006.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Mr. Ypsi on November 22, 2005, 05:58:53 pm
Soulsenda,

I don't think Pat Coleman would be wild about your idea that ONLY current students should post - across all the boards I dare say that 80-90% of posters are alums and/or parents of players. :)

And let's leave off the homophobia and other childish rants, shall we?  You're making your school look awfully bad.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Soulsenda on November 22, 2005, 09:43:02 pm
ok dont be a baby man...U know for a fact that I wasnt talking about homosexual people.  Its a saying.  I think people that bash on other people for no reason are RETARDED AND I DONT LIKE THEM.  IM NOT GONNA BE FAKE AND GO AROUND IT.  I SAY WHAT I WANT WHEN I WANT HOW I WANT BC IM NOT FAKE.  If i feel one way I express it.  Thats what America is about, freedom to say and do as you please.  Im also Catholic and I believe in treating others the way you would like to be treated,  so therefore if u bash someone u will get bashed in return.  If you dont play football you really shouldnt bash anyone playing the sport unless they are a professional(getting paid).
And I am not making my school look bad.  I make my school look good, I am a good person Im just not a P uss Y and I am opinionated.


Im done on here, its swoll season and thats all I need to worry about.

For all the kids who hate on here, Only one things to say..."dont hate me cuz you ain't me."  plain and simple.  If you hate on here, thats all that needs to be said to you. 

MADDOG-   Is your son gonna try and play anywhere after he grads?  He should def check out Europe or even arena.  He is the kinda kid who I know couldnt give up football just like I am.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: maddog8 on November 22, 2005, 09:54:03 pm
Joe, I hope so, he has the ability for arena and canadian. We will see, as should you. You have the talent to back it. As for posting, your right "its called freedom of Speech and Press. Just be careful and don't go overboard, your better than that. I will be following BU as well as the IBFC next year. Work hard on your studies dude. It's hell in the real world with all the job losses out there. I will say you do say what is on your mind and DON"T let anyone change who you are, just back your comments. I'm with you.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: vikes35 on November 23, 2005, 12:53:46 am
Quote
"dont hate me cuz you ain't me." 

Soulsenda,
Comments like these make a lot of people think that is arrogance. I know that you are very confident in who you are by the way you post, but I would think about toning that kind of attitude down, because it really can make you look like a cocky jerk (not a good way to get ahead in life, just ask T. O.). However, Ypsi is right you are making a bad name for yourself and your school if you are going to start calling people retarded and using words like the P**** word. It doesn't matter if you are using the term in general or not, it doesn't seem like an appropriate action for a college student (something I know a little bit about being that I am a senior right now).  I know that I would feel like a jerk if I put that up there and it represented the Augustana community. As for bashing no one is bashing you, you are acting immature on here and people don't really like it. Call people babies if you like, but many are disagreed with on this site and they don't start going off on tangents about people being retarded. I know you have a freedom of speech, but also have some class and respect for others. We have not called you any names, we have not said anything except that some of us thought it was unusual that active players were posting, outside of that any other thoughts were focused at the positives of your conference.  As for me not being able to talk negatively about somebody because I am not a player or former player, I am sorry but nobody else told me that football players were the only ones that could talk about the game. I guess I don't have freedom of speech to say what I want to because I never strapped on shoulder pads and put a jersey on. I know alot about my college's football team and the opponents we play in the CCIW and because of that I should be able to say what I want. The only reason I was over here was because I wanted to learn something about Lakeland and the game we had on Saturday, I didn't think that my making a simple comment would amount to this. I am just saying that you should think more before you speak, you have freedom of speech and I for one am not trying to take that away from you, but I do believe freedom of speech entails that you try to have some class for the people that you talk to, and with some of the language you use that seems to fly out the window. Its cool not to be fake, but it would also be nice if you didn't try to make people feel bad about their ideas when their ideas are not trying to make you feel bad. In no way did I mean harm by anything I said, so I ask for you not to get so defensive. I am sure you are a great player, the praise you get as a player on this board speaks for that, but realize that people have comments and that they are not always in agreement with your own, that is not automatic grounds to bash that person. Whatever was said I am not on here to make people feel bad, so in all sincerity no comments were meant to offend anyone, they were simply the opinion of one D3 football fan. Good luck to you in the future no matter what happens with football.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: zorbadagreek on November 23, 2005, 11:48:22 am
Soulsenda or Sergo or whoever you are, you are making yourself, school and conference in general look bad. I frequently visit other conference posts, and the Illini-Badger one is by far the most ridiculous and I have addressed this before. Guys are constantly bickering and talking about non-football related things. Show some class, I am taking away from your on the field work ethic or talent just your whining. >:(
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: zorbadagreek on November 23, 2005, 11:50:03 am
Sorry, I meant to say that I AM NOT taking away from your ability to play the game, just the fact that you come off as childish and there is no need to act that way.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: langston92 on November 23, 2005, 01:03:30 pm
I just want to say good job to all of my teammates at cuw.  I want everyone to know that we have work to do this off-season.  congrats to lakeland
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: zorbadagreek on November 23, 2005, 06:02:41 pm
Soulsenda, you are cool!
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: vikes35 on November 23, 2005, 06:56:34 pm
Soulsenda,

You say that you aren't making yourself or anyone involved with BU look bad, but when others are telling you that you are making your school and others look bad it is fairly obvious that you are. In your opinion you are not, but to many others on this site you are, so in turn that means that outsiders think that you are being negative and giving your school and yourself a bad name. It is fine with me that you don't care but I am sure that others do care.

As for being cocky, that is bad, being confident is good, there is a difference, you should know that. I was a decent hockey player before I hurt my knee, but I never thought that to be a great athlete I had to be arrogant and cocky, I knew I just had to go out there and give it my all. In a football game the guys I choose to respect are the ones that work their butts off everyday and ask for nothing but the same from their teammates, not guys like T. O. who think the league owes him something. Being a great athlete means being a great athlete, not a great mouth.

Also I don't care who the language is directed at, it is mean, vulgar, and uncalled for on here. You weren't saying anything at me, that is fine, I am trying to get to the point that you are not making things better with anyone by posting what you are. If you are done with the website cool with me, but if you could tone it down maybe you could enlighten people on the board to things they might not know about BU football, and to be honest I think that is part of the reason that this post board is here. We had a guy on the CCIW post board who was just like you at the end of last year and he got thrown off and didn't care. If you care about BU maybe you could be a good poster that brings to light details that others don't know. I am just sticking up for the other posters that you seem to bash on, because they don't deserve it, and to the ones that do deserve it, let it go, they are just trying to get to you, and it seems to be working.

Also me being nice is not fake. I am being nice because when it comes to good football I am a fan, and when I say something I mean it, that is not being fake, that is being honest.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: aufb05 on November 23, 2005, 08:31:42 pm
VikeE35, Zobradagreek and anyone else not from the IBFC-

You don't like what Serg or any other IBFC site regulars have to say then simply don't read it - or better yet stay on your own page. Ya know it gets old hearing how your conferences are so great and the IBFC isn't. Personally, the IBFC is the only conference in D3 - when their season ends so does football. Could care less what happens anywhere else.

So here's wishing all my IBFC pals (you to Pongo) a great holiday season - stay healthy see you in the spring.   
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: CardinalAlum on November 24, 2005, 12:29:31 am

  Ya know it gets old hearing how your conferences are so great and the IBFC isn't. 

Truth hurts some times!! :P
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Big_Uns on November 24, 2005, 01:50:33 pm
It's not that it hurts, it's just that you guys come in here talking about it like we have no idea. I'm pretty sure all of the IBFC posters know what our non-conference and playoffs records are.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Soulsenda on November 24, 2005, 04:08:08 pm
AUFB-

My man, appreciate the lookout.  As for everyone else, I didnt say anything that wasnt called for.  Dont talk **** if u cant handle it right back.  Stop friggin crying.  I only said things to people who started saying things about me, my team, or our conference.  I never initiated anything, I only responded.  Stop trying to play the mediator just let it go.  I dont care what people think I only care that I stand up for me, my team, my conference.  BOTTOM LINE. 

***SOMEONE CAME ON HERE ATTACKING ME AND PRETENDING TO BE SOMEONE ELSE= FAKE, RETARDED,GAY.  If you cant deal with those grown up terms then leave it alone. 

FINALLY, no one respond to this.  I don t feel like explaing myself again.  Its like Im talking to a bunch or of walls.  I DIDNT INITIATE IT, SOMEONE STARTED IT, I FINISHED IT.  The person erased his account and went hiding away.  You all dont know me, dont know what kind of player I am.  Excuse me for not sugar coating things,  I never have and never will.  Thats how I was raised and I am also the most respectful person to those who DESERVE it.  If you disrespect me, dont expect me to be respectful back and nice.  Ill either brush it off, or RESPOND times 10.  Thats all.  LEave it alone.

HAPPY THANKGIVING TO EVERYONE!!!!  Get some good protein in!!!  To anyone I offended, I didnt intend to , I was only aiming at a certain person who was neing fake, andc attacking me.  Now leave it alone, its over.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Pat Coleman on November 24, 2005, 04:48:20 pm
If you cant deal with those grown up terms then leave it alone. 

Ironic, your pretending that anything about your rhetoric is grown-up.

Listen, vikes is right -- you reflect poorly on yourself, your institution and your conference with your posts, especially the one I had to delete. Grow up. This isn't high school.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Soulsenda on November 24, 2005, 06:35:51 pm
HEY COLEMAN,  BEAT IT!!!

Delete that buddy.  Then you can delete my account, then delete the idea that your cool bc u run a friggin website where people run their mouth and hide.  Dont worry about me, or what I say.  U have no right to judge. I didnt see you interefere when people were pretending to be others and talking ****.  Do yourself a favor, get off your fake ass power trip and BEAT IT.  BALL FOUR TAKE A WALK. 
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: OzJohnnie on November 24, 2005, 07:18:05 pm
I am also the most respectful person to those who DESERVE it.

I'd like to see that post.  I hope your folks didn't pay for your education (and I hope the tax payer hasn't either).  Like Bluto from Animal House: 7 years of college down the drain.  Someone should get a refund.

Maybe Dan Quayle had posts like yours in mind when he punted on the Negro College Fund's slogan and said, " A mind is a terrible thing to lose."
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: sotha sil on November 24, 2005, 08:17:09 pm
hey, Pat....I am tryin' to get my karma up....Love, joy, happiness...I hope for world peace...and interconference friendship and love...Everyone is an all-american to me...hope that gets me a few karma brownie points
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Mr. Ypsi on November 24, 2005, 08:40:58 pm
I am also the most respectful person to those who DESERVE it.

I'd like to see that post.  I hope your folks didn't pay for your education (and I hope the tax payer hasn't either).  Like Bluto from Animal House: 7 years of college down the drain.  Someone should get a refund.

Maybe Dan Quayle had posts like yours in mind when he punted on the Negro College Fund's slogan and said, " A mind is a terrible thing to lose."

You've got the gist of it (and I don't guarantee my quote is exact), but after several stumbling starts, I believe he said "What a terrible thing it is to lose one's mind".

A true Phi Beta Kappa among national leaders!  (Though 'W' sometimes makes him look literate!)

[And couldn't agree more about Soulsenda.]
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Mr. Ypsi on November 24, 2005, 08:55:24 pm
hey, Pat....I am tryin' to get my karma up....Love, joy, happiness...I hope for world peace...and interconference friendship and love...Everyone is an all-american to me...hope that gets me a few karma brownie points

Pat is not the giver and taker-away of karma points (though he no doubt CAN).  Posters with sufficient number of points (200? 250?) can 'smite' or 'applaud', thus giving karma.

The one thing I don't like about the system (and I don't generally give much credence to it anyway) is that those of us who post widely have no way of knowing what we said that offended (or made happy) where if our karma suddenly moves up or down several points!  A few days ago I suddenly dropped 6 points, and I have no clue why.  Since no one poster can smite or applaud in less than (I think) 12 hours, I obviously offended a bunch of people, but could not figure out what post would have made anyone mad!
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Big_Uns on November 24, 2005, 09:18:51 pm
Mr. Ypsi,

That was the most insightful post of the year. No lie.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Pat Coleman on November 24, 2005, 09:25:08 pm
BALL FOUR TAKE A WALK. 

OK, you're outta here!
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Pat Coleman on November 24, 2005, 09:27:45 pm
Maybe Dan Quayle had posts like yours in mind when he punted on the Negro College Fund's slogan and said, " A mind is a terrible thing to lose."

Actually, I believe that misquote is, "what a waste it is to lose one's mind." :)
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: OzJohnnie on November 24, 2005, 09:52:47 pm
Maybe Dan Quayle had posts like yours in mind when he punted on the Negro College Fund's slogan and said, " A mind is a terrible thing to lose."

Actually, I believe that misquote is, "what a waste it is to lose one's mind." :)

You're probably right.  I felt the post lost some of it's disrespectful tone to hedge the quote ("...said something like...").  And I couldn't be bothered googling the correct words.

BTW - I took a quick look for his coach's email at Benedictine, but didn't find it.  It would be good if someone could make the program aware of this sort of conduct.  It's a key step toward creating the type of discipline needed for success.  I also doubt the coach would appreciate the discriptions of his sideline and locker room behavior, which is apparently no better than that of Soulsenda in this forum.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Mr. Ypsi on November 24, 2005, 10:17:10 pm
BALL FOUR TAKE A WALK. 

OK, you're outta here!

THANK YOU

Maybe Dan Quayle had posts like yours in mind when he punted on the Negro College Fund's slogan and said, " A mind is a terrible thing to lose."

Actually, I believe that misquote is, "what a waste it is to lose one's mind." :)

Well, I was close a few posts ago, but yours sounds more like I now remember it.

And, alas, we now have a President who makes Dan Quayle seem articulate! ;)

(And, I promise, no more political commentary on this site!)
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: CardinalAlum on November 24, 2005, 10:19:31 pm
 
Ask and you shall receive!   ;D

 Jon Cooper-Head Football Coach, Benedectine University.
(630) 829-6153
jcooper@ben.edu
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Mr. Ypsi on November 24, 2005, 10:19:50 pm
Mr. Ypsi,

That was the most insightful post of the year. No lie.

I did two consecutive posts - I'm dyin' to know: which one??!! ;) ;D
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Big_Uns on November 24, 2005, 10:49:09 pm
The one about the Karma rating.  :)
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: usee on November 24, 2005, 11:08:40 pm
i will add this- jon cooper (hc at bu) is a class act. he spent many years at aurora and was a big reason they had the success they did. he knows his football and most certainly would not tolerate the actions of his players on here if he knew it were happening.

so long soulsenda--good riddance.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Mr. Ypsi on November 24, 2005, 11:09:01 pm
The one about the Karma rating.  :)

Thanks for clarifying!  I'll put you back closer to the positive side!
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: sotha sil on November 24, 2005, 11:47:41 pm
hey, i play fable and i like being good...so if everyone could be nice and make my karma good i would love ya....please ppl im an angle...on the field im godly too
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: bufan on November 25, 2005, 11:50:51 am
USEE

Good call, Coach Coop is a class act and if this was sent to him he would probably do something about it.  Joe just doesnt give a "you know what" he does what he wants and most of the time he gets reprecussions.  I guess if you wanted to credit him with something it would be not taking any sh*t.

Anyways, I have a clarification question, what are the requirements for eanring first team, second team, and honorable mention? I hear different things about each.  Is first team unanimous, second team X numnber of coaches vote for you and honorable mention just one other coach besides yours votes for you?
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: sotha sil on November 26, 2005, 10:57:43 pm
-2 you guys are just evil...pat can you pulls some strings
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Black Panther on November 28, 2005, 02:04:52 pm
 Gentlemen,

I have never been compelled to participate in this posting until now!
 
 First, I agree with Sergo or Soulsenda to the extent of defending himself and his Conference but i don't agree with some choice of words.   There was alot of truth in the words he shared.   Alot of you guys do slam "KIDS" and there respectful football programs.  Regardless of what we have accomplished or where we've been in our football careers it's not our right to judge, demoralize and strip these kids of their experiences.   "We had our time now let them enjoy there careers how they seem fit"

  I've witnessed guys from other conferences get on here and just slam each other bragging that there conference would beat the "you know what" out of IBFC kids. (Oh, but you guys didn't see those post, so there goes questioning the CCIW representation and maturity!!!)  True enough the IBFC have not produced once in the playoffs but how can you compare last years team, competition and elements to a current team?  Stats do give the truth but they don't speak for character..........

 The bottom line is this, I'm a former "D1" player and whenever I watch a football game I don't compare myself to them nor do I look down on another team because of their conference.  I watch with respect of the competitors and most important respect for the game.....

"You guys know damn well, if you were him maybe 10 yrs ago, you would've repsonded the same way!!!!! " He's just a kid........ 

Yes, Jon Cooper and Staff are a great group of coaches but by no means do i judge them because of their kids actions.  Coaches mold and teach the kids in their allotted time they don't control them. 

I'm also tired of hearing about the T.O. situation.  I don't see you guys judging or questioning Andy Reid's character because of T.O.'s behavior?

I hope that I have not offended anyone by sending this but I hope this came as an enlightenment.......

"Can't we all just get along?"

Go Bears!!!!!!! :)
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: FalconsFootball on November 30, 2005, 03:25:09 pm
I think this is one of the most insightful posts I have seen all year.  I am not exactly sure what soulsenda was saying becuase I have not been on in a while but I beleive the rest of black panthers post was great. 

Other posters come on here and talk and talk about how our conference is weak.  Obviously our post season record is sad, but that is because we are constantly being matched up with some of the best teams in the country.  La-X had a lot of class after they beat us in the playoffs and they were a far better team than AUG. 

I don't understand where all of this hatred comes from for the IBFC.  I hope everyone who comes on here thumping their chest feels better about themselves.  We still love the game, stay on your own website and stroke eachother off while you talk about how great your conference is because 44-7 isnt all that impressive either.  YOUR ALL PLAYING DIVISION III, GET OVER YOURSELF.

I do not want to offend the guys who come on here and understand the fact that we are playing the same game, it is great to see there are still people who are intelligent out there. 
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: FalconsFootball on November 30, 2005, 03:31:52 pm
I don't see Mount Union gloating over their win on the CCIW site. Interesting....
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: FatalImpact on November 30, 2005, 07:08:05 pm
Maddog: We had a great rep for the playoffs.....ha right 44-7
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: maddog8 on November 30, 2005, 07:18:00 pm
Fat-Azz what is your point on the rep 44-7?????
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: FatalImpact on November 30, 2005, 11:46:21 pm
Point is you said they would,  after AU went last year you said that lakeland would be a  better rep......by the way cute smiley
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Gomer Pyle on December 01, 2005, 10:42:02 am
   Finally!   Somebody, somewhere posted the
   IBFC All conference awards on the D3 web-site (press release).
   I`ve been around for a fair amount of time and
   this is the FIRST time this has been done. Most of the time you have a hard enough time finding it on the IBFC site or even posted in a timely manner.
  SID`s are you listening?
   Nice to see the guys selected get noticed by all   
    who care to check it out.....on the big stage.
    Congradulations to all selected.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: maddog8 on December 01, 2005, 08:19:28 pm
First Fat-Azz Lakeland was the BEST rep from the conference to represent us. Second, get the facts WHEN your conference player of the year is OUT WITH A BROKEN LEG, your chances diwndle for a victory. Having said that he(your conference player of the year) goes in the second half, again broken leg and all, and OUT THROWS both starters for the game in yards and TD's. I'd say we were represented very well. Had he started like someone else posted WHO no's what the out come might had been. We will never NO!. I will say this, it take guts and balls to play with a broken leg so that your conference won't be let down.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: aufb05 on December 02, 2005, 10:43:13 am
AZZ wipe-
Maddog is right. - AU was the right team to represent in '04 and LAKE was the right team to represent this year. Maddog doesn't have to defend the courage, guts and heart of his son. All of us in the IBFC respect that young man and his ability. Would it have been a different game if Ryan was healthy - no doubt about it. Do we say different things during the year to support our teams and players - no doubt about it. But in the end this conference supports its REP win or lose. Merry Christmas Azz wipe.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Black Panther on December 02, 2005, 01:15:31 pm
Maddog8

i have to agree with you on the lakeland call but i felt concordia wisc should've been in place of au a year ago.    no offense to the au players and staff but (con wisc) had the perfect personnel for the perfect offensive scheme a year ago.  defensively au was inferior to the other but both had decent showings against comparative competition.

  Personally i evaluate the strength of a team through their defensive unit.  let me clear, statistics mean absolutely nothing!!!!  when given the opportunity the "better" team capitalize.........
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: aufb05 on December 02, 2005, 04:19:48 pm
Thank you for your disapproval Karma Cops, heres wishing you and yours a safe holiday season and a happy new year!
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: FatalImpact on December 02, 2005, 05:04:15 pm
For one...I was not questioning his son...I was questioning the talk about AU after last year.....by one maddog,
Black Panther...How do you figure....AU's defense could not have been inferior.....their defense beat CUW remember?
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: sotha sil on December 03, 2005, 03:45:08 am
I think maurie shouldnt have been player of the year...but i can not even come close to getting myself to deny that he would have been a huge difference in a playoff game....Auggy undoubtedly study him and game planned all week only to get an early christmas present....i think there are many better athelets in this conference than in many of the greats maurie being on of them...our lines dont match as a whole...ppl may say im wrong but im not...we dont have the big ones others do...
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: madfrog on December 04, 2005, 09:27:01 pm
I think maurie shouldnt have been player of the year...but i can not even come close to getting myself to deny that he would have been a huge difference in a playoff game....Auggy undoubtedly study him and game planned all week only to get an early christmas present....i think there are many better athelets in this conference than in many of the greats maurie being on of them...our lines dont match as a whole...ppl may say im wrong but im not...we dont have the big ones others do...

What on earth are you getting at boyo? I think you need to go back to school and learn how to write.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Black Panther on December 05, 2005, 09:07:00 am
What's the deal with these "karma" points?  If that's what i'm being judged on then i'm doing a pretty bad job.  So far i'm -3 in the hole.  Can anyone help a brother out?  :)
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: maddog8 on December 05, 2005, 01:28:56 pm
Sotha sil I have to agree with madfrog, where are you going with you comments, they make no sence!
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: sotha sil on December 05, 2005, 01:56:35 pm
lol, sorry I was in a rush to go to bed.....I believe other conferences as a whole are better than ours....but many (not all) of our skill players are some of the best in the country...but our lines d and o dont match up in size and strenff...better? plus i was trying to give your son a little props bc i kinda downed him lately bc of who I thought was player of the year...
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Black Panther on December 06, 2005, 09:27:18 am
FatalImpact

inferior was a wrong choice of word.  Granted both teams had a difficult schedule but after watching au against smaller opponents their defense allowed those teams to remain in the game where Conc Wisc. put them away early and never looked back....     

That's the mark of a good team.  How well the defense set the tempo for the game.  Overall the IBFC was down a year ago so it's hard to compare the top dog performances in head to head competition.  Those tougher teams (Con Wisc, AU and Lake) only prepared for their competitors that week with the hope of another team knocking them off.  kinda like using there opponents' schedule as a defender within the race.  Schedule wise Concordia played a tougher opening compared to AU's.   So whose to say that concordia didn't sustained key injuries prior to meeting AU.  Also keep in mind roster numbers....
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: red99 on December 06, 2005, 03:09:19 pm
Any word on who will be named head coach at CURF? The job is no longer posted on the NCAA page.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: SeoulGuy on December 07, 2005, 08:21:06 am
What's the deal with these "karma" points?  If that's what i'm being judged on then i'm doing a pretty bad job.  So far i'm -3 in the hole.  Can anyone help a brother out?  :)

Go read the FAQ's for the answer!
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: FatalImpact on December 07, 2005, 02:05:18 pm
WHOA WHOA WHOA.........Black Panther what in the hell are you talking about, we were destroying the other teams, we never let any of the teams of the schedule stay close with us
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Black Panther on December 07, 2005, 02:05:31 pm
Thanks for the infor SouelMan!  

Who or what kind of guy is going to take over that program?

  It's a beautiful campus to sell but it's going to take a huge person to take on that program.  

Overall that school will survive but it's the "KIDS" I feel sorry for.  For the administration to fire the enitire staff and AD show's no respect for those student- athletes and their parents(who's paying their tuition).......  I believe the adminstrators are the ones who should be reprimanded for their insubordination in hiring procedures.   None of this would've happened if these adminstrators looked beyond the "good ol' boy" system.  

In short, the school will always get paid but the kids will continue to suffer until they (the adminstrators) put together a hiring committee consisting of former athletes, human resource staff, support staff, alumni and parents.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Gomer Pyle on December 10, 2005, 03:50:55 pm
   Div 3 Champs (will be)  UW-WhiteWater.
    Mount Union is good no doubt but i like
   UW-WW besides they kicked the crap out of
    Lakeland.  Sorry. Maddog. :D
   
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: maddog8 on December 10, 2005, 04:24:02 pm
Hey right now they are kicking the crap out of Wesley. At this rate they will beat Wesley worse than Lakeland.

Congrats to Benton, and Van de loo for being first team all region, Vandlen and Mills for second team all region
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: madfrog on December 10, 2005, 09:40:08 pm
White-Water would beat Illini-Badger all-conference team easy..
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Fluffypuppy on December 11, 2005, 06:03:22 am
and now he's endorsing WW.... ::)
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: baseman201 on December 12, 2005, 01:05:51 pm
Red 99-

CURF is hoping to hire a new head coach by January.  As of now only 1 person has been interviewed, the offensive coordinator from John Carroll.  As for the interviews to take place this week, I know one was a head football coach from a nearby high school, some others from other colleges, but other than that, I am not to sure.

And with the job being taken off the NCAA page, I couldn't tell you if they have hired someone yet, but many seemed to like the guy from JC.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: bufan on December 12, 2005, 08:25:40 pm
madfrog-

Im going to disagree with you when you said that UW-Whitewater would beat the all Illini Badger Team EASILY

For starters, immanuel mills and peter ereg running behind the best 5 lineman in our conference, complimented with mauri, a third running threat, who would be backed up by hornung.  The dline would consist of benton, and 91, 92 from conc wis (not sure their names, sorry) LB's would be van de loo, tate from AU, WR's would be very good, folliard and macarthur white and sergo(actually in his position for once). an allamerican db from AU and they say the other guy is just as good if not better. I agree we dont have the best teams in the country but to say UW-W would easily beat our all star team is not a fair statement.  And im sure im missing players from other teams that arent coming to mind right now.  I think that you would be amazed at how good our all star team might actually be.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: baseman201 on December 13, 2005, 01:03:09 am
BuFan-

I am going to have to agree with madfrog on this one.  But not only Whitewater would be able to beat our all conference team, Mt. Union, Linfield, and maybe some others could as well.  Lets face it, the best we have to offer, probably wouldnt even start at the "bigtime" D-III programs like Linfield and Mt. Union.  Nothing wrong with that, we just have an inferior conference right now, maybe in time the IBFC will start to get better, but as of right now, the powerhouse schools could beat our all conference team with the rosters they have in place right now.  Would it be a blowout? Would they beat our all conference team EASILY?  I dont think so, but the score wouldnt be close by any means.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: SeoulGuy on December 13, 2005, 01:17:43 am
Does anyone remember when the College All-stars played the NFL champions prior to the next season? Now, no one in their right mind would think they would stand a chance, right? But, wasn't it in '67 or '68 when they did just that and beat the Packers? I think that was the end of that series because Lombardi was so angry with losing that game  :-[  Maybe some out there knows more about this then I do. The conference all-stairs certainly would have a great chance to win because not many people would think they could. But, we will never know, now will we???
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: sotha sil on December 13, 2005, 05:05:46 pm
I noticed Bufan replaced Collier with Sergo on the team that would face WW...ouch lol guess three years in a row still isnt good enough for the BU guys
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: sotha sil on December 13, 2005, 05:12:53 pm
Sorry, I am a CUW guy..i just realized he bumped down the reciever from MAC too...
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Fluffypuppy on December 13, 2005, 08:23:39 pm
baseman1 this is still D-III not D-I, so let's not get too carried away about how much better UW-Whitewater's team overall would be compared to an IBC all star team.  These guys are very good ball players and many of them would compete if not start for anyone of those big time programs you mentioned.  Your making it sound like the 'bigtime' D-III programs are loaded full of potential NFL ball players which they are not.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: bufan on December 13, 2005, 09:00:55 pm
Baseman- clarify by waht you mean when you say.. "They wouldnt beat us easily, but the score wouldn't be close by any means?" 

Sotha sil - Also, I did say that I may have left out some players, and Collier was one of them I guess.  But seeing collier play the last couple years Im still taking Joe because im bias, and have seen him do some unbelievable things in practice and games.  And i dont count any player from Macmurray except Ereg and maybe the QB because i dont like the rest of the team.  So they are all disqualified. that was a joke.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: sotha sil on December 13, 2005, 10:09:41 pm
I agree about the MAC thing....it is hard to have respect for a team that acts the way they do...but i thought i heard their coach got fired and some of the things they did obvisouly came from top to bottom
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: fsufan on December 14, 2005, 12:58:23 am
TO:  SeoulGuy,
The old College AllStar Game went away for a couple of reasons. First, the top college players were getting big money contracts from the NFL now and the team owners had no intention of their future stars getting creamed (maybe permantely) in a meaningless game.  Second, players were just as aware of possible career ending injuries as were the team owners.  Mutual admiration for the dollar ended the game.  As far as Lombardi was concerned (remember he hated rookies) he had no intention of having on of his starters injured by some young bonehead college boy trying to show off on national tv.  The end of that game was no suprise and was just another change in the game (i.e. NFL-AFL merger) soon followed.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: baseman201 on December 14, 2005, 01:39:16 pm
When did I say anything about these bigtime D-III players going to the NFL??  And a couple D-III players do sign FA contracts (Blake Elliot - St. John's an example). 

I think maybe a couple out of the group would start, possibly a couple of DBs, but other than that, our conference team would have a tough time at the top teir schools (linfield, Mt. Union, etc...)  Alot of our Conference team is made up of Lakeland players right?  Whitewater kicked the crap out of them 73-12, you think Mauiri could start over Brett Elliot at Linfield, or Mike Jorris from Mt. Union?  Linfield has a Pro Prospect at WR in Casey Allen, you think Joe Folliard could compete with him? Think about the competition they face every week, they make teams that would beat the crap out of Lakeland or CUW look foolish. 

And what I mean by "They wouldnt beat us easily, but the score wouldn't be close by any means?" is that the score would be around 21-7, 21-10, somewhere in that range.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Fluffypuppy on December 15, 2005, 12:24:44 am
Okay you did not say they were going to the NFL, but you were making it sound like every player on their roster is light years ahead of the IBC's all-star team talent. 

And yes there are D-III players that do sign contracts, but very few stay very long or have much of an impact at all.

I agree with your later score though, it does sound more reasonable.   After all if IBC AS were to suit up against a UW-Whitewater or Mt. Union I feel that UW or MU would win, one because thier group of guys have been playing together longer and no how to work together better as a cohesive unit rather than an all-star team that has just been recently assembled.

Whatever happened to "Thunder" Dave Sunseri?
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: maddog8 on December 15, 2005, 06:07:14 pm
Baseman101, First Ryan did produce over 300+yrds total offense against Whitewater, which is clearly the best team in DIII, more than 99 % of the teams that played them this year, Second over Elliot he would definately compete, Jorris he would start over. Remember Ryan did get a scholarship to Saginaw Valley the 11 ranked division II team in the country, choose to leave for a better education and more playing time as a Freshman. He would have easily started at Saginaw this year had he not left. He loved Lakeland and still does! And the name is spelled MAIURI. He is also going to the combine but were shotting for CFL or ARENA. That is where he will have his best opportunities being only 6.0 most NFL QB's are 6.3-6.5 in hgt. I say Whitewater by 17 Sat. As for Lakeland at least they have balls to compete against high power teams like Whitewater and Carthage. Again Whitewaters enrollment is what 15,000 students not like Lakeland at 1,000 students.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: augiedogie on December 15, 2005, 09:14:24 pm
Maddog:
If your son is interested in trying out to play either area or CFL I have a friend who is a small time sports agent. He works primarily in the CFL and arena.  One of his main clients is Chad Johnson's younger brother who is on the Chicago Rush.  Let me know and I'll give you his contact info.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: maddog8 on December 15, 2005, 09:32:23 pm
augiedogie, call me on my cell 586-201-1341 thanks
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: FatalImpact on December 16, 2005, 03:18:03 am
ENOUGH, STOP......I can't take it anymore of hearing his stats, it's old
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Gomer Pyle on December 16, 2005, 10:00:15 am
Maddod8:  You said in part,".............300 + yards."
   I know your a modest guy so let me set the record straight. 
   Your son had .........304 total yds. A good day
   by any standard.  Good luck to him in his future
    endeavors.
   When you look back on that game you can say
   proudly that he had a really good game against
   (probably) the National Champs which, by the
   way, beat the crap out of Lakeland.  73 to
   something. Something meaning, not enough. ;D

    Happy Holidays( Merry Christmas to those not
    offended) to you and your family as well as
    all the folks that post. 
 
   
   
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: nebraskavolleyball on December 16, 2005, 02:30:07 pm
why does eveyone hate this mac shcool? just wondering, because i have been to some of thier games and saw a team that just had some issues to work out thats all, plus with having new coaches and a new defense of course they are going to be frustrated.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Gomer Pyle on December 16, 2005, 03:02:46 pm
why does eveyone hate this mac shcool? just wondering, because i have been to some of thier games and saw a team that just had some issues to work out thats all, plus with having new coaches and a new defense of course they are going to be frustrated.

  I don`t know about the "hate" part but their head-coach(now) has been there for about 7 or 8 years.
  3 years as head coach.
   I believe there are only a couple of "new" coaches
   As to your question,"Why does everyone hate
   this Mac school ?" i`m sure others will offer their opinions. 
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: bufan on December 17, 2005, 03:19:00 am
I will reply to that nebraska volleyball

There are a lot of issues on the field that is hard for fans and coaches to see.  For example, even when they are losing, they were still talking mass amounts of trash.  I dont know if it was a defense mechanism or what, but when if I were to talk trash before a game, then get blasted and continue to talk when you're down by 35, I mean come on. And there was an issue in the Lakeland-Mac game that I am unsure about but Im sure someone knows on here
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: nebraskavolleyball on December 17, 2005, 01:35:10 pm
ya i heard about that game and from what i heard is that some lakeland "SPECIAL TEAMS PLAYER" was going through when they were shaking hands calling everybody a b@tch or that they suck and just really saying some awful things.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: nebraskavolleyball on December 17, 2005, 03:22:48 pm
Sorry but i know some of the players from lakeland and mac(sorry i will not say any names) and they each said that it was a very intense game and they all let themselves lose their cool and act like idiots.  I would also like to say that the quarterback from lakeland really didnt deserve the player of the year, i believe that the greenville team should have gotten it for doing such a great job this year.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: baseman201 on December 17, 2005, 08:12:21 pm
Dude, Maddog,

Brett Elliot started at Utah until he got hurt and transferred into Linfield.  If you honestly think your son can start at Utah, than more power to you.  I saw your son play first hand, actually playing against him, and seeing him play at Augustana.  And by no means would he beat out Elliot at Linfield.

Maybe you are giving your son to much credit, as possibly some would agree with me (or not  :))

If Ryan is good enough to make it into the Arena league, then I will believe him to be that best QB in D-III, since you said "over Elliot he would definately compete", who just won a little thing called the Gagliardi Trophy.

And another thing, you said:
"He is also going to the combine but were shotting for CFL or ARENA."

We're????  Don't tell me your one of THOSE dads, the ones obsessed with how and what their son does.  Who runs out onto the field to drop kick the ref after a bad call during their sons little league game...................would be fun to see that though!!!!!

And, I will spell it right from now on, MAIURI.........for some reason Mauiri looked like the right way, either way, apoligies for messing that up,  ;D
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Gomer Pyle on December 18, 2005, 08:46:11 am
 Two really good football teams playing for a National Championship......... and Mount Union gets the "W".  Congradulations to Mount Union.
   
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: maddog8 on December 18, 2005, 07:13:08 pm
Baseman, actually I am going for my agents lic. and feel that Ryan has a better shot at the CFL or ARENA before trying for the NFL. His size is against him for a QB, but with alittle more experience in the ARENA or CFL he could maybe make a move. Either way he keeps playing. As for one of those DAD's well I am proud of his accomplishments buts I just LOVE FOOTBALL. As for competing against Elliot no doubt. I did not say he would start over him. As for Greenville stoping Ryan well he had a broken leg for the final 3 Quarters and still beat u guys. Seasons over move on.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Big_Uns on December 19, 2005, 06:10:43 pm
I see that Lakeland got three votes in the top 25 in the final week. I'm sure we'll hear more bitching about how Lakeland isn't qualified to be there either.

But if they're not, why were they 7-0 in conference again? If you're going to call them lucky, surely they would've been UNlucky at some point in conference. Nobody's lucky for an entire season.

As the conference representative in the playoffs, they're as qualified as any of the other teams in the top 25, so hopefully this stops any bitching from CUW about getting screwed over.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: baseman201 on December 19, 2005, 06:32:43 pm
I am not from CUW, but I will still bitch about it.

I also noticed the 3 votes by Lakeland

So what does 7-0 mean in the worst conference in D-III?  Absolutely nothing, 6 of the 7 teams they beat were 500 or below, with Greenville a 4-6 team only losing to them by 7, wow, that's pretty amazing.

Although Greenville was very much improved for the 2005 season.

Ok sure, I will give Lakeland some credit, their schedule was tough with Carthage (who werent as good this year) and Whitewater, then Augustana in the playoffs, but those teams proved exactly why Lakeland or anyone else in the IBFC doesn't belong anywhere near the top 25 in D-III football.

And to all the CUW people, the outcome would have been the same if CUW instead of Lakeland represented the IBFC and took the trip to Augustana.  Folks, no more talk of IBFC teams being in the top 25, we have a long way to go before we can contend for a playoff win.

Although if we do get a player in the Arena league, that would be very good for our conference to have someone advance to the next level.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: bufan on December 19, 2005, 07:40:48 pm
I think ryan actually has a very legit shot at the CFL or some level of arena.  As you are probably aware, and some people may not be, that there are I believe 4 levels of arena football, then the European Leage then maybe the NFL.  So basically the odds are something like 10,000 to 1.  He actually may be a very good QB at the arena leage level, though it is doudtful to reach arena 1 or 2, the two lower levels are more likely scanerios.

On another note, how crazy is it that Elliot beat out Alex Smith their freshman year there. Or whatever happened, something along those lines.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: nebraskavolleyball on December 19, 2005, 10:05:40 pm
Um i do believe there is some one in the arena league, he is from macmurray because my brother talks about him all the time his name is frank carter and he is playing for the las vegas team i do believe, so ya this conference can produce next level guys.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: maddog8 on December 20, 2005, 11:12:19 am
Baseball101, listen first your not even in the same class as Sergo, so stop the talk because you can't back it. cathing a TD against Lakelands 5 string does not put you in this class. NOW if you worked at football as hard as you talk s**t you could maybe be second string on CURF's team. In fact did you even start for CURF?. It would take a person like you 2 life times to be equivelant to Ryan. One thing in life you need to learn or you will struggle in the REAL WORLD like you did in football is think before you speak and be possitive towards others NOT always negitive. And we know your not from CUW because you would not of made there team, Hell second string on CURF  I am suprised the coaches even kept you around that long. Have a merry Christmas and New Year, Resolution change your attitude and thoughts towards others, you might become a better boy from it!
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: baseman201 on December 20, 2005, 04:11:42 pm
Maddog-

haha, actually you are right, I am not in the same class as Sergo, because he still has one more year in D-III football, I graduate in May, so you are right on that. 

And those CURF comments, I will save my thoughts on those until the end of this post. 

First off, yes, I have many thoughts and comments, many of them negative, but if they are the truth, then I don't care if they are bashing someone, negative or what.  I don't think I have posted anything untrue on this forum yet, all my predictions have been true about games, and I stand behind everything I have said. 

2 lifetimes??? you are talking like your son is some kind of superstar.  Ok sure, he was recruited by Siginaw a D-II school, which has very good competition, and would have started, or so you say.  But still, 2 lifetimes??  That's pretty harsh.  He is a good D-III starting QB, but anything higher than D-II may be pushing it.  But hey, have him prove me wrong, and make an Arena team, shove it in my face.  I would love to say I played against someone in the Arena League.

Myself and another STARTING receiver........yes I said STARTING were recruited by CUW out of high school back in 2001 and 2002.  Since we went to private Christian high schools, and were succesful at football, we were recruited by most of the Concordias.  The other receiver went to CURF to get playing time right away since they werent having much success, and I stayed back home to go to a State school for the first couple years. (which I have my reasons for).  To make a long story short, I went to CURF last year to help out a team that won like 4 games in their last 6 years or something like that, plus to get ALOT of playing time.  We never had GREAT years at receiver because our QB was running for his life about 95% of the time, but I consider 20 yds/catch alright for our QB getting sacked 50 times a season.  Any receiver at CURF, no matter who played their, even if it was Sergo, Folliard, or White, or whoever you want to put in there, would not have had great years as a receiver at CURF.  I dont see D-III football as anything big, I see it as more fun than anything, it was something to pass the time around classes.  So maybe football wasnt a priority to me, school is much more important than football ever was.  Does playing D-III football matter in a job interview?  Don't think so, so I am going to brush off your comment about working harder at football.  I am in school for one reason, to graduate, football was just something on the side, plus it got me in great shape.

So don't tell me other players are 2 lifetimes ahead of me, it does depend on what school you play for.  And dont tell me about struggling in the REAL WORLD, we all can't work at Ford plants the rest of our lives like you. 

And you Maddog have a Merry Christmas, and  a happy New Year.  And thank you for saying Merry Christmas, and not "Happy Holidays".

Wow, I am also very harsh in my post.......sorry
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: bufan on December 20, 2005, 10:32:11 pm
Wow, you guys aren't being very friendly.  What a terrible blow about the place of employment.  That was uncalled for I think.  And if I may steal a line from "Good Will Hunting,"  he is producing/fixing a car for someone else to get to work in the morning, that IS a  pretty honorable profession, in all honesty.  Not my choice to work cause I know nothing about it at all, but still highly respectable.  And how do you know he doesn't RUN the entire plant, or something???

Baseman, you are slamming a grown man who has lived a life twice that of yours.  And he will always be that more knowledgable than you.  There are two BU alum's in the arena leagues, Josh McMillan i believe his name is plays for the Rush, and Chuck Verdone has played for the Omaha Beef, a team obviously located in Nebraska.  A lower level team, but Arena nonetheless.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: disgracetofball on December 20, 2005, 11:53:22 pm
Fluffypuppy I agree whatever did happen to "Thunder" Dave Sunseri but I have found out.  Last heard he was coaching not special teams but more specifically "wedgebuster" for the Park Ridge Falcons. 
Next order of business...
Gomer Pyle
It is spelled congraTulations.  Don't be swayed by the banners at your kid's graDuation party.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: baseman201 on December 21, 2005, 12:39:43 am
Hey, he takes shots, I will take shots.

It's a give and take relationship between Maddog and myself here on the D3 forums.

For some reason I don't think he runs the whole plant, but hey if he does, my apologies.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: nebraskavolleyball on December 21, 2005, 12:52:21 am
I just found out something very interesting, the kicker for the dolphins, went to mac.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Fluffypuppy on December 21, 2005, 01:12:20 am
I thought Mare went to Greenville.

Hmm, Thunder Dave Sunseri, a wedgebuster coach, it was meant to be.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: baseman201 on December 21, 2005, 02:08:24 am
Didn't Mare go to Syracuse???
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Gomer Pyle on December 21, 2005, 07:31:59 am
Fluffypuppy I agree whatever did happen to "Thunder" Dave Sunseri but I have found out.  Last heard he was coaching not special teams but more specifically "wedgebuster" for the Park Ridge Falcons. 
Next order of business...
Gomer Pyle
It is spelled congraTulations.  Don't be swayed by the banners at your kid's graDuation party.

  All these years..........who would have thought?
  You should go far in life if your arrogance doesn`t
  trip you up first. 
 
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Da One on December 21, 2005, 10:24:52 am
Olindo Mare started out a Syracuse then tranfered to Mac.  He graduated from Mac in 95" and he is in there Hall of Fame.  I wounldn't admit to going to Mac either.  Just kidding!  Frank Carter was and still is a stud.  My first IBC game was against Mac his Sr. year.  He was huge and fast.  We still beat them, but he was a dude.

Happy Holidays!
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Big_Uns on December 21, 2005, 12:23:19 pm
Speaking of all this Arena League talk, former Lakeland QB Brent Luebke signed with the af2 Green Bay Blizzard. Some of you also may know him as the quarterbacks coach for the Muskies last year.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: baseman201 on December 21, 2005, 01:32:58 pm
What posseses someone to start at a D-I school in NY, then transfer to a D-III school all the way in IL to kick? 

Doesn't make the most sense to me.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Da One on December 21, 2005, 04:26:02 pm
After further research:  Olindo Mare was listed as a Mac grad in 95.  On the Mac site it says he went on to make the Giants practice squad in 96 and then on to the Dolphins.  On the Syracuse site it says he played on the team in 96.  He wasn't on the team before that.  It is possible that he did his undergrad at Mac (I think he played soccer at first)then went to Syracuse for masters or continude education, had a year of eligiblity left and played at Syracuse as a walk-on.  I don't know how else to explain it.  Both schools claim him.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: baseman201 on December 21, 2005, 04:58:26 pm
I thought he went to Syracuse first, and then MAC, but it makes more sense the other way around.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: mac_5_seven on December 21, 2005, 05:35:21 pm
Mare went to Mac before Syracuse and played both soccer and football.  I remember coach Hensley telling a story about how they lost a game because he was at a soccer game....
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Gomer Pyle on December 21, 2005, 06:21:30 pm
 Guys, the Mac football site is a mess. Has been all year but Olindo Mare is listed in the : Single Season Record section.  His "only" entries are for the year 1991.  I know because i just looked them up. 
 
   
 
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Pat Coleman on December 21, 2005, 09:06:50 pm
He went to MacMurray first, then to Syracuse.

He did not go to Greenville.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: nebraskavolleyball on December 21, 2005, 11:53:36 pm
Thank you for clearing that up for me, now atleast Mac has something to be proud of, if it is still only for a year with him, and the two years as conference champs.  But hopefully that next year they win the conference title, that would be something to see again, or hey, maybe greenville will win it, who knows.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Fluffypuppy on December 22, 2005, 06:48:35 am
Wait, I'm confused...

When did he go to Greenville then, if he went to Mac and then Syracuse?
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: mac_5_seven on December 22, 2005, 11:39:23 am
Played his final two years at Syracuse (1994-95) after attending MacMurray College in Jacksonville, Ill. and Valencia Community College in Orlando, Fla, where he did not play football ... In his two years at SU, hit on 15 of 24 field goals and 52 of 53 PATs ... Was a second-team All-Big East choice as a senior for the Orangemen ... Led the conference in scoring with 74 points and had 84.5 percent of his kickoffs travel into the end zone with 67.2 percent going for touchbacks ... Converted 12-17 field goals including a long of 50, and 38-39 PATs ... As a junior, 74 percent of his kickoffs went into the end zone, while 54 percent were not returned ... Majored in speech communications.

From the Miami Dolphins website..
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: nebraskavolleyball on December 23, 2005, 11:37:31 pm
So techinally Mac is the only college to have produced a star athlete out of the IBC, wow they must be doing something right there.

Oh, maddog, how did your girlfriends son do this year. :)
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: nebraskavolleyball on December 26, 2005, 10:53:28 pm
I hope everybody had a very merry christmas, and a happy new year.  As for the next season who will win this upcoming year, my money is on greenville.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: lem4094 on December 27, 2005, 03:41:33 am
Quote
So techinally Mac is the only college to have produced a star athlete out of the IBC, wow they must be doing something right there.

CUW, Greenville and Lakeland put a number of great atheltes out there.  Many of which still hold NAIA records. 

Everyone is so wrapped up in the 'pro' status that they forget Navarro (Lakeland) still holds a number of passing records for DIII.  He was a part of an awesome team that did not get a bid to the tourney (after going 18-0 at the time, if I am not mistakin') cause of an 8-2 Wittenburg team.

The IBC did not have the auto bid at the time and Witt had earned it after running through a gaunlet (arguedably) stronger then Lakeleand at the time.

I remember seeing that team from the late 90's and I believe some great athletes are over looked from that team.

Don't get me wrong, AU and BU at that time and in the early 2000's had some good studs as well, especially at D Line, th RB position and DB position, but now we are reduced to yelling about kickers?!?

Let's get real and say we have a ways to go and prove it on the field.  AU came the closest 2 years ago in a tough OT loss but they are not on here whinning!  They put it on the field and nearly beat an NCAC Champ!  I can guarrantee they are in the weight room preparring for next years opportunity!!

Support your team, Support your school, and defend your conference as best you can with their teams' play.  Stop this grabbing at straws for credibilaty by an attempt of salvaging something from insulting other players or claiming this guy is going pro for whoever or whatever has been the case.  It will be seen on TV or in the papers when it is confirmed if some one makes it, so let them chase the dream, like many before, without scorn or rumor.

Just an ol' former IBC player's view of things.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: nebraskavolleyball on December 27, 2005, 01:47:45 pm
right on sir,
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Cougswillwin on January 04, 2006, 12:11:19 am
looks like im the first post in 2006....NOICE!!!
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Cougswillwin on January 04, 2006, 12:14:14 am
that moving/scrolling thing didnt work out for me...
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Big_Uns on January 05, 2006, 12:50:03 am
that moving/scrolling thing didnt work out for me...

You usually have to put the tags before and after whatever it is you're trying to modify.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Cougswillwin on January 05, 2006, 01:13:38 am
ahhhh....nooice!!
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Cougswillwin on January 05, 2006, 01:20:50 am
Emilio!!!!!
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Gomer Pyle on January 05, 2006, 07:36:43 am
 Now that`s a first.   
   
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Big_Uns on January 06, 2006, 05:09:04 pm
Yes, that pretty much explains the credibility of his name.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: lem4094 on January 07, 2006, 04:21:27 am
Honestly, it's a waste of 4 post spaces.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: FalconsFootball on January 15, 2006, 01:32:20 am
Im just wondering how the CURF players feel about the new coaching staff?
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: baseman201 on January 17, 2006, 10:15:36 am
From what I have heard he is an awesome guy/coach, and wants good things to happen quick.  So hopefully he can get some actual recruiting done, and turn this team around.  But, that's just what I have heard, someone who is actually playing this next year could probably give more info.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: zorbadagreek on January 18, 2006, 10:08:44 am
Does this new coach have a new staff in place? What happened to the former coaches??
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: sotha sil on January 18, 2006, 08:00:31 pm
Well, I know RF got a new defensive backs coach...he is probably the lamest guy ever to come through football....and he will here it from his old team on saturdays....we got your back even though we are gonna go harder on your team bc you are across the sideline....No one here at CUW has any intent on making your job easy boy...but we wish you the best luck...great guy coming down to coach at RF
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Cougswillwin on January 19, 2006, 12:26:58 am
We are all really excited about our new coach.  He is a young guy but he is bringing alot of spark to the program, which is something that the Cougars have been lacking for quite some time.  We already have an offensive coordinator and a strength and conditioning coach, something else we have not had for years, if at all.  We also are returning our Grad Assistant, he coached our receivers last year and eventually took over as co-offensive coordinator.  Sure, we may be taking a gamble at getting a young high school coach, but having formerly played here, he has alot of ties to alumni that are now coaches around the country.  As sotha sil said, we do have a defensive backs coach.  He played at CUW last year and Im not sure how, but he has a tie with our coaches.  I honestly dont think recruiting will be a problem.  He already is getting alot of guys from his high school here, and he also is going to tap into the Lutheran schools around the region, as well as all the public and catholic schools that we recruit at too.  These new coaches are excited about this chance and they have alot of fire and passion to turn this program around, which is something that hasn't really been prevalent in the past.  It may take a few years to turn this program into contenders, but CURF's time is coming and it is coming soon.  The new look Cougars are gonna be ready to fight in 2006, and we are also getting new jerseys....awwwww yeah!
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: FalconsFootball on January 19, 2006, 01:57:03 am
Thanks for the compliments sotha and the challenge I am going to work with the guys and get them ready for next year.  As for the connection the O coordinator is my bro and actually played at RF with the new Head Coach.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: maddog8 on January 19, 2006, 05:09:25 am
falcsfb, best of luck at CURF, I can see this program turning around with talented players now coaching the game. God Bless you guys and go cougars. Besides losing players like baseman101 will only help your program, and keep the rif-raf about your team off this site.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: baseman201 on January 19, 2006, 10:15:09 am
Awwww,  Maddog, I love you too.  Even though you just made fun of me, I forgive you.

Just met the new coach last night, and he seems like he has alot of spark and energy like Cougswillwin said.  I like to see the program hopefully taking a turn in the right direction.  And maybe this coach can stay around for awhile, considering we have had 4 in the past 5 years. 

Oh yeah, and how was waking up at 5:30 this morning??  But hey, it shows he wants you guys to work hard.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Cougswillwin on January 19, 2006, 01:47:58 pm
Baseman201...waking up this morning was a blast!

Falcsfb...I met your bro the other day when he came down here...He is a big fan of the spread offense...im looking forward to that... I hope you'll be able to coach our DB's to cover me...hahaha j/k.  But really I'm looking forward to meeting you and can't wait for you all to get down here.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Cougswillwin on January 19, 2006, 01:52:58 pm
Falcsfb...you going to be around for CIT next weekend?
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: sotha sil on January 20, 2006, 10:18:37 am
He will be there for sure...he has to dress up as freddy the falcon....so talk to the big bird at CIT
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: fsufan on January 23, 2006, 12:38:48 am
Come On Guys, lets think with our heads and not our hearts!
I want CURF to be successful as much as anyone but if nothing else has been clarified in the last five years, the obvious lack of admin support for the program has been.  Hynes left because he saw the writing on the wall, Conwell didn't believe the writing untill it was too late (bless his heart and God be with him), and now they dip into the high school ranks for the sake of nostilgia.  Besides no area recruiting background or local hs pipeline he has to create a coaching staff (and we know how well paid they are).  Hey, I know they'll break our hearts again no matter how prepared we are, but just once I would like the school powers that be give a head coach and the kids a chance to play on a level surface with the other league leaders. GO COUGs......... :)
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: FalconsFootball on January 25, 2006, 11:54:52 am
Thanks Maddog I appreciate it.  I look forward to meeting all the guys down there and getting started.  I believe I will be down there in February to get a tour. 
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Gomer Pyle on February 19, 2006, 01:18:25 pm
  Testing..............one, two, three.
     
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Cougswillwin on February 20, 2006, 09:49:42 am
No Diggity....its been tooooooo quiet around here lately.  Here at CURF we would refer to this as being comatose cougars.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: pitbull on February 20, 2006, 12:07:21 pm
Cougars

Any word on the other assistant coach/track guy yet? Have they interviewed guys..or have they hired someone. Who is goin to be their assistant coaches???
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Cougswillwin on February 20, 2006, 11:49:28 pm
Well I assume most of you know that we have an offensive coordinator hired already.  Coach Janousky came with Coach Pries from Milwaukee Lutheran.  We are in the process of offering a defensive coordinator job to a guy from a D-1 AA school, I'm sorry I can't remember his name or what school he was at, oops.  I also know that Evan Janousky, former CUW Falcon DB, is trying to come on board to be the DB's coach.  We also kept our Grad Assistant, Doug Hageman, to coach the WR's.  Hageman took over the offensive coordinator position last year when our O-Coordinator Coach Todd Black left in the middle of the season.


We are all very excited and the student body is beginning to get interest in the upcoming football season.  I just want fall to roll around already and get out there to play some ball!
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: pitbull on February 21, 2006, 09:51:19 am
Why would a IAA guy go to Concordia??
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Gomer Pyle on February 22, 2006, 02:13:22 pm
Why would a IAA guy go to Concordia??
 
 Pitbull: Make that a rhetorical question because this board is in "time out" mode.
  The guy from concordia is the lone exception. 
   
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: gman on February 24, 2006, 12:42:26 pm
Concordia is a tough place.

I coach there in the 90's for Jim Braun...and we had a great staff here is where we currently are..

Jeff Monken--Navy
Adam Hollis--Darkmouth
Mark Reade--Rice
Jeremy Markham--Manchester
Mike Harkins--H.S. in NY (U of C, Johns Hopkins)
Anthony Grazzini--Elmhurst
Walt Whitehead--Wheaton
Mick Ewing--Retired
Chris Pagnugo--Retired

The school tried to do the Church Thing but the kids we needed went to CUW or C. U. Minn.

Third Tier kids...even synoyd kids wont win even in the IBC. 

If Lonnie is going to be successful it is going to have to be because of an administrative commitment

-Recruiting
-Financial Aid
-Coaches Pay

And he needs to hire a qualified staff...alot of slaps have filtered through in the last 10 years. 

by the way...Lonnie, you should have hired Joe Adam from Grand Valley State University.  He know a little about recruiting (Haper College Days, Video Editing--GVSU, and Winning--GVSU)

g

Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: zorbadagreek on February 24, 2006, 02:27:12 pm
Does anyone know where Todd Black from CURF went??
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: formerd3db on February 24, 2006, 02:47:26 pm
gomer pyle and pitbull:

While I certainly understand your point which is legit (i.e. why a I-AA coach would go to Concordia), indeed, there are some circumstances in which that occurs, such as family issues, regional location, and perhaps just plain opportunity.  Another current example is Scott Pethal who just took over the North Park job.  He was a stellar athlete at Adrian College, and was coaching at the Univ of Buffalo in Div I MAC the past few seasons.  It happens all the time.  Many DI coaches go to smaller schools for similar reasons, albeit most in the latter portions of their careers (ex. current NDSU coach, new LB assistant coach at Lake Forest (former NFL player), current Findlay Univ (DII) head coach, etc., etc.).  Just depends on the circumstances and what is right for that person and his family.


gman:
Thanks for the update info of your coaching staff.  It is always interesting to see where coaches move on to, especially you young coaches!  Certainly a lot of opportunities arise for many each year - everyone has to make their own choice.  I remember Coach Braun from the '80's.

I agree with you that it is a tough sell for some schools to field a program, even at the DIII level.   You are correct that administration has to make the commitment for recruiting student-athletes, financial aid, and certainly coaching salaries.  The latter is indeed difficult for most small schools.  However, these are not impossible challlenges to overcome as many small schools have proven it time and time again.  At least Concordia and similar schools continue the programs and they should for many reasons which I'll not go into here as many of us have had similar discussions regarding all this in past years (i.e. we won't revisit the Swarthemore debacle ;D).   But there is a place for some student-athletes at a school like Concordia.  Let's hope the new staff, with some new support/direction from the administration and alumni will be able to improve it to a next step.

BTW, where are you coaching at presently?   
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: maddog8 on February 24, 2006, 11:44:36 pm
IBFC CONF. PLAYER OF YEAR, RYAN MAIURI, LAKELAND COLLEG SIGNS PRO CONTRACT WITH HAMBURG BLUE DEVILS, HAMBURG GERMANY
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Cougswillwin on February 26, 2006, 03:01:16 am
thats cool man
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Cougswillwin on February 26, 2006, 03:03:01 am
In regards to Todd Black, I dont know what happend to him.  He was a great coach, I loved having him as a coach.  I would like to keep in contact with him and probably should be, but I am slacking in doing that.  Anyways, he is a great guy and I was really sad to see him go.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: baseman201 on March 01, 2006, 12:44:06 am
Yeah, Todd Black was an amazing person, and really made football fun to play.  I assume he teaches at Oak Park River Forest High school. 

Maddog8-

Damn, congratulations to your son, that's a pretty cool.  What league are they in?  Is it the big European league?  I don't know much about leagues over there, all I know are NFL, CFL and AFL.  Also they take their soccer to damn seriously.  Anyhow, congrats to Ryan again. 

Cougswillwin-

Yeah, I can't wait to see what you guys look like this year.  I see coach Pries with quality recruits coming in it seems like everyday, Conwell never did anything like that.  Hopefully you can pull off some wins, and have a succesful season.  Pries and the rest of the new coaches look like they care so far, maybe he can stay around for more than a year and actually build a succesful program.

GO COUGS!!!!
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: maddog8 on March 01, 2006, 03:01:33 am
Baseman201, its the EFL (Europian Football League), they play 20 games and are aloowed to only recruit 4 American players per team. They are the feeder team to the NFL Europe Hamburg Sea Devils, who just signed Brock Berlin from the University of Miami. They play 20 games then their super bowl which is called the Euro Bowl against the top NFL Europe team. So exposure will be very high for him.  They are making him a Cornerback because of his speed and agility. They have not ruled out QB, just have a need for Defense, so we shall see how it goes. Like I told Ryan, worse senario is you will see all of Europe which many of us will never see, not a bad contract either. First game is in Italy April 16th. Will be a rough weekend seeing he fly's out Friday the 14th, then fly's ti Italy the 15th. He is projected to be the starting Cornerback, but the head coach said he will play receiver and running back and backup QB. He will also be running kicks and punts retirns.

Bobby Langston if you are ot there contact me about your future, I project YOU  as the conference player of the year and think that if anyone can make the NFL!! email me on personal web site maiurimartin@yahoo.com
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: baseman201 on March 01, 2006, 03:17:10 pm
I see, so it's like the minor leagues in baseball pretty much, or AFL D-III or D-II.  Then hopefully work his way up to the NFL Europe league. 

I was actually wondering where Berlin went, and I guess know I now.

Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: gc_fan on March 02, 2006, 07:55:00 am
Maddog - Kyle Krober former Greenville QB who graduated from GC in 2002 and then coached for 2 seasons (2004) his last season coaching there, played in the same league in 2003.  He played for the Tyrolean Raiders.  http://www.raiders.at
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: fishguy on March 11, 2006, 12:27:37 pm
From the UWEC Blugold athletics website, regarding the head coach vacancy:

"The search and screen Committee has tabbed Lakeland College head coach Jim Zebrowski, Marietta College head coach Todd Glaser, University of Nebraska-Omaha associate head coach Lance Leipold and University of North Dakota associate head coach Chris Mussman as finalists. Those four will be on campus next week for interviews with the search and screen committee, team members, athletics staff and university administrators."
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: maddog8 on March 13, 2006, 03:01:58 am
Fishguy, how's it going, It's great to see Coach "Z" getting the opportunities. The guy is a D-1 Coach and won't be long before he gets there. TOO MUCH TALENT at COACHING. He served Lakeland well and if he stays look out IBFC again. Personally I want to see this guy on the top. He has been the best thing that ever happen to Ryan and his development. This guy can COACH, TEACH, TRAIN and GET YOUR BUTT ON THE RIGHT TRACK. He's a Coach first but also a friend, father and most of all an INSPIRATIONAL LEADER. I personally would like to see him at the greatest D-1 school around "MICHIGAN" good luck coach "Z"
 
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: formerd3db on March 13, 2006, 11:30:05 am
fishguy and maddog:

Oh my.  Some of those guys (Glaser and Zebrowski) have just been getting their current programs upward bound and toward the next level!  It must be difficult to consider "pulling up stakes" again so soon and moving elsewhere (I'm sure their wives will perhaps not be overly enthusiastic, but then again, most coaching wives are understanding, supportive and "know the stakes" when they say "I do" ;)).  It will be interesting to see who UWEC picks.

BTW, remind me please as I forgot or missed this - how did the UWEC hc postion become open?  As I recall, their prev hc took a DI assistant coaching position?
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: youknowit on March 17, 2006, 07:41:07 pm
rumor has it that Joe " I ve been in school longer than most doctors" Sergo, has some how gotten another year of athletic eligibility.  This would be his fourth year of playing football at BU, he played one year at illinois wesleyen, then he played at harper.  How can this be?  Is he going to be back?  Normally he comes on here and makes a fool out of himself and his school anyway, but does anyone have any idea if this rumor is true? please explain
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: FBfan01 on March 22, 2006, 10:27:03 am
Just curious, Mad Dog and everyone out there, who do you think the best kicker in the IBFC is and why? Just trying to get a handle on it for next year. I was a college kicker and i like to know who is good and who is not. Also, if there were nay great performances, let me know. Thanks guys.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: baseman201 on March 22, 2006, 05:21:05 pm
Joseph Sergo has been playing football for 6 years eh?? 

I never knew. 

Damn, he's been in school for so long, what in the heck is he majoring in?
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: maddog8 on March 23, 2006, 06:25:44 am
FBfan01, I am going to sya the best punter and kicker from what I observed last year regardless of the IBFC selections would have to be from Greenville, both punter and kicker. That is not to say that there were others very deserving. But my opinion would be the Greenville guys. As for my pick this year as player of the year "BOBBY LANGSTON" from CUW hands down. My Picks for the IBFC CROWN, 1) LAKELAND--THANKS THE LORD COACH 'Z' IS BACK FOR THIS CROWN
               2) CUW---THIS WILL BE THE GAME OF THE YEAR WITH LAKELAND
               3) GREENVILLE
               4) MacMURRY
               5) AURORA
               6) CURF
               7) BENNY
               8) EUREKA

AGAIN OPINIONS ARE LIKE A-HOLES WE ALL HAVE ONE.

Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: FBfan01 on March 23, 2006, 11:05:17 am
What about Mai from CUW? I hear he could really kick the ball. I also heard that he kicked 2 field goals against Greenville to tie, then win? Thats just what i hear. What do you think about him?
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: maddog8 on March 24, 2006, 04:14:43 am
EXCELLENT kicker, like I said many are deserving, and quit frankly Mai may end up the kicker of the year. Time will tell, but again to answer your question MIA from CUW is very deserving. Lots of great talent still in the IBFC. Actually Lakeland's kicker did an excellent job for us last year. if not for him we might still be in OT at CUW. Have a great day! :o
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: FBfan01 on March 24, 2006, 10:41:11 am
What makes you so sure that Lakeland will win conference this year? Cuw is looking for revenge and they have got some studs coming in. Even thought Mills is gone, he left a strong running crew behind, and the defense only lost one lineman. I think they are going to hand it to Lakeland this year.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: maddog8 on March 25, 2006, 04:57:35 am
FBfan01, like I said this will be the game of the year in the IBFC, Lakeland is still very loaded as well, although I will say that CUW defense will be very tough to run and pass against. Again Langston will be the most dominate player in the conference to deal with. If he (Langston) can get his leadership in tune at the start of the season, they will be tough to beat. REMEMBER, Coach "Z" is back and he most definately is the best Coach in the IBFC. I gaurentee he will have his troops ready, promise. If Wilk is the starting QB, he has a great arm and is very accurate, running wise should have one of the best backfields in the IBFC and there lineman with HOMER leading the way will no doubt open hugh holes for them. THEY will have the best receiving core in the IBFC with Eric Royal and McArthur White a D-! transfer last year from NO. Ill. Defensively they will also have the best LB core in the conference from my point of view. I say it again this will be the desider for the IBFC. CUW vs LAKELAND
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: sotha sil on March 25, 2006, 12:16:07 pm
Well, lets take a look at CUW then  :).  Bobby Langston is a given.  The CUW defense returns nearly everyone.  We lost Two very good players a line man and a safety that were both 2nd team all conference.  Both positions SEEM to be getting filled nicely.  We boast the best D-line in the conference, two all conference linebackers led by first team all conference Scott Gehrke, and probably the most experianced defensive back group the IBFC has seen in a while.  On offense, three players return with multiple first team all conference honors.  John Mask heads the o-line with two first team all conference awards and is joined by two other all conference award winners.  At wide reciever, Jon Collier has three first team all conference awards and gets plenty of help from work horse Matt Meyer and a who would start at any other school in the conference in Taylor Siolka.  Mike Stienmetz shares time in the back field and as a reciever and has had two first team all conference selections.  Now, here is my wild card.  I think Aaron Gillespie who has spent his career behind Manny Mills will step into a starters roll at tail back and be the best player in the conference.  He has two second team all conference picks and has amazing power for a small frame.  Plus, he is pound for pound the toughest and best blocker this conference has.  Never said CUW was better, but with the talent coming back?????
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Cougswillwin on March 25, 2006, 03:55:11 pm
Just a little side note...CURF hired a defnesive coordinator in the begining of March.  We hired Coach Josh Gehring, from Missouri State University.  Gehring played quarterback for two European first-division teams, guiding Esjberg, Denmark during the 1999 season and Ystad, Sweden the following season. Gehring took the Ystad franchise from an 0-10 record in 1999 to an 8-2 record and second-place finish. He would return to the states to coach quarterbacks and receivers at Manchester (Ind.) College (2002-03), tight ends at Western Kentucky University (2004) and running backs at Missouri State University (2005) before coming to River Forest.

Now, we have 3 full-time coaches in place, Head Coach Pries, Offensive Coordinator Janouski, and Defensive Coordinator Gehring.  Add to that our Graduate Assistant Doug Hageman, who last year was co-offensive coordinator and, is back and coaching the recievers, and there has been talk of getting Janouski's brother, former CUW safety, to help coach our DB's.

We are all very excited here at CURF as our program is taking full shape and we are underway with our spring ball pracitces.  All the guys are excited and there is a new sense of dedication and sacrafice in us.

Anyways...hope you all are having a good spring and hope your brackets arent suffering too badly.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: maddog8 on March 26, 2006, 11:47:07 am
sotha sil, this game will be a 3 point game and desided by the QB's and Kickers, edge to CUW in Kickers with Mai, counter edge to Lakeland with there QB, but ever so slight of an edge. Collier is the TOP Receiver coming back with a battle for that honor by Royal and White, BOTTOLINE: The key for CUW is to out Coach "Z", key for Lakeland is to STOP Bobby Langston! WILL be the GAME of the YEAR for the IBFC


cougerwillwin,  YOU BECHA, CURF will move up the ranks this season, bank on it, the attitude must change and they will improve greatly,but only if the ATTITUDE CHANGES. So your desire to win.  I say a 500 season.

Mac will improve with the great Coaches from SAGINAW VALLEY, D-II, there improvement must come as a TEAM not just individuals, and most of all WILL THE PLAYERS LISTEN TO THEIR COACHES!!!!!!!!!

GREENVILLE, move to number 3 power with their Coaching and all around team effort and system, MUST GET A NEW FIELD, CONCRETE BRAKES LEGS,

Eureka, learn to lose before YOU win. YOUR leadership reflects your athletes.NEVER QUIT BECAUSE YOUR LOSING one thing I will say CURF did NOT DO. Second teamers have a right to SCORE. LEADERSHIP REFLECTS ATTITUDE==ATTITUDE REFLECTS YOUR PLAY!!!!!!


Aurora---HORNANG is the KEY, QB of the YEAR--CONF. OFFENSIVE BACK OF THE YEAR!!!!!!!


Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: baseman201 on March 30, 2006, 11:39:11 am
Gougswillwin -

yeah, I have seen everything going on this Spring, and it gets me really excited for you guys.  Pries has done an amazing job thus far at getting you guys in shape and ready for the season to start, (which is in 4 months!!!!!)

He is trying so hard to turn around the program, he is bringing in amazing looking recruits every single day (from what I have seen), he has a number of guys already committed to CURF, including possibly a Junior College transfer from Florida at QB.  As for turning the program around to a winning team in one year, who knows.  Although Carthage posted a 3-7 record in the 2003 season, then in 2004 made the playoffs and ended the year at 11-2.  So I guess anything is possible. 

But I agree with Maddog (I cant believe we agreed on something) on this one at the least a 500 record.  I want to see them finally succeed since CURF hasn't really done anything football wise since the mid 1980s.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: FalconsFootball on March 31, 2006, 10:21:21 am
Its good to finally see some chatter back on the board. 

Maddog; Thats awesome your son is getting a chance to play at a higher level good for him I wish I could do the same. I love the sport dearly and am going to miss putting the pads on more than words can say.  I'm even missing practices already (is that bad or what)

Anyways everyone keep working hard this spring and lets make it another exciting race for the chamionship.  There have been some great games the past few years and I hope it continues.

 
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: maddog8 on March 31, 2006, 12:18:56 pm
falcsfb, dude you still can if your really interested e-mail me maiurimartin@yahoo.com. I will need some info from you and we will go from there. Leave me a number where I can reach you. Good luck this year coaching YOU will make a major impact on CURF just from what little I know and have seen of you as an athlete/person. I personally think you still can play.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Gomer Pyle on March 31, 2006, 01:03:23 pm
  Lakeland wins it again!
   Maddog: You and Mel Allen (old NY Yankee broadcaster)  would have made a great team........................... both being "HOMERS". ;D   
   

     
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: formerd3db on March 31, 2006, 03:58:37 pm
falscfb:

No, I don't think that is bad at all.  It is a natural and common feeling, to which I'm quite sure most of our fellow posters would concur.  After many years, even us "old guys" still miss it! ;D  You'll find, however, that there are many ways to stay connected with the game after playing days are over, whether you get involved in actual coaching or not.  That range is wide including from the great feeling it is in helping youth get involved at an early age to just supporting as a fan, your h.s. and/or young student-athlete collegiate players, your school, the league and/or DIII football in general.

Also, it is good to see someone get the opportunity to extend their career beyond college for a while if they want to, regardless of what level or category that is in.  Might as well, as anyone really only gets one chance in life at that.  As such, I don't think anyone who does, has any regrets in their later years and will look back on such an experience with good memories and glad they "took the chance and did it." :)   Anyway, best wishes to you in your future endeavors, whatever they may be and wherever life takes you.

Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: maddog8 on April 04, 2006, 02:00:18 am
Good article on lakeland web about Ryan Maiuri and Ryan Van Doo Loo both signing contracts to continue their careers playing  football in Germany. Congradualions to BOTH Ryan's. Good luck and make the IBFC proud as this conference will get recognition as it continues to grow. Hopefully opening more doors for conference athlete's
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: formerd3db on April 04, 2006, 03:23:04 pm
maddog:
Okay, please tell me again once more (I forgot; must be that old age! ;D).  What will happen when the IBC is split up after next year? Where are the schools going and new afficiations ???  Thanks.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: maddog8 on April 05, 2006, 01:52:17 am
formerd3db, If I remember correctly, Lakeland, CUW, CERF and Aurora will go to the LMC as for the rest I have no clue. Should be interesting
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: gc_fan on April 05, 2006, 10:42:02 am
I found this post from November 2005, on the UMAC post pattern from Matt Hill, AD at Northwestern College in MN and commishioner of the UMAC conference....

It looks as though the SLIAC and UMAC conference football teams are going to form a new football alliance under the SLIAC name starting in 2008.  By 2010 the league will have an AQ.

A meeting was held in St. Louis on Monday and the presidents and athletic directors from the UMAC and SLIAC colleges have tentatively agreed on a 10-team 2-divison league.

The league will add MacMurray, Greenville, and Eureka, and lose Rockford and Marantha to the Lake Michigan

On a side note (that I am posting) not the commish - the UMAC currently has a "dome day" that is played in the Metrodome at the end of the season to determine the conference champion, with the 2 divisions, it would not surprise me to possibly rotate the dome day every other year between the Metrodome and Edward Jones Dome (home of the Rams) in St. Louis.

Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Big_Uns on April 05, 2006, 11:38:46 am
Benedictine will also go to the "LMC"
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Cougswillwin on April 05, 2006, 11:59:47 am
So is this year the last year of the IBFC? Or will the IBFC be around for this year and the next?
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: illinihscoach05 on April 05, 2006, 12:10:20 pm
I have heard through reliable sources I know in both leagues that this vote was tabled to be looked at further and that the IBFC schools were not all in favor of this.  Anyone hear anything along these lines?
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: IBFC_Alum on April 07, 2006, 10:55:27 am
if the SLIAC and the UMAC were to unite and form two divisions I would think that Mac would have to be a favorite to win that conference based on a talent alone.  Its a move Mac probably does not want to make. The same reason why they left the SLIAC to join the IBFC. For better competition. Mac would clearly want to join a conference with more competition than the UMAC and SLIAC.  C'mon Blackburn(though much improved) Gets thumped by IBFC teams all the time and wins in the UMAC. Would Mac be the favorite or should Mac look to play elsewhere?
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Big_Uns on April 07, 2006, 01:45:23 pm
I have heard through reliable sources I know in both leagues that this vote was tabled to be looked at further and that the IBFC schools were not all in favor of this.  Anyone hear anything along these lines?

I haven't heard anything like this. I'm under the impression that the teams (Aurora, Benedictine, Lakeland, Rockford, CUW, CURF, Maranatha, and WLC) will not join the Northern Athletics Conference until 2007 because Wisconsin Lutheran is still under contract with the MIAA until then. Then in 2008, the NAC will have football with those eight teams.

However, I am also under the impression that Eureka will be leaving for the SLIAC next year, so I guess that would mean that for the 2007 season, the IBFC will only have seven teams.

Is this information accurate?
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: gc_fan on April 07, 2006, 03:44:56 pm
Big_Uns - as of now the SLIAC Conference does not sponsor Football, they did at one point and then dispanded that when Principia went Independent (then joined UMAC) Westminster and Blackburn joined UMAC.  Currently Greenville and MacMurray hold dual affiliation with the SLIAC for all sports except Football and IBC for Football.  You are correct in that Eureka is joining the SLIAC but they will still stick with the IBC for football until it is disbanded.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: IBFC_Alum on April 10, 2006, 09:51:40 am
Big_Uns - as of now the SLIAC Conference does not sponsor Football, they did at one point and then dispanded that when Principia went Independent (then joined UMAC) Westminster and Blackburn joined UMAC. Currently Greenville and MacMurray hold dual affiliation with the SLIAC for all sports except Football and IBC for Football. You are correct in that Eureka is joining the SLIAC but they will still stick with the IBC for football until it is disbanded.
From what I heard there will be no IBFC it is done so where will Mac and Greenville go???? Eureka only joins the SLIAC for all sports except football. Is that correct?  Maybe Pat Coleman can provide some insight on anything that he has heard about the IBFC disbanding and when.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: formerd3db on April 10, 2006, 11:16:56 am
IBFC_Alum:
I had the same questions, especially about Eureka.  Seems to me, those schools would want to try and keep football travel distances (for obvious cost reasons) down as best as practical.  Yes, perhaps Pat has some insight
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Pat Coleman on April 10, 2006, 01:40:12 pm
Although the participants in this conference have been very quiet about it, my understanding is that the Northern Athletic Conference will take over the football side of things when Wisconsin Lutheran's term in the MIAA is done.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: IBFC_Alum on April 10, 2006, 02:13:30 pm
Although the participants in this conference have been very quiet about it, my understanding is that the Northern Athletic Conference will take over the football side of things when Wisconsin Lutheran's term in the MIAA is done.
so the NAC will take in the teams that do not join the lake michigan athletic conference?  Or is the sliac bringing football back? I wish Mac and Greenville would the NAC. It is better competition. Where do you think would be a good conference for Mac and Greenville to join?
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: IBFC_Alum on April 10, 2006, 02:15:31 pm
Although the participants in this conference have been very quiet about it, my understanding is that the Northern Athletic Conference will take over the football side of things when Wisconsin Lutheran's term in the MIAA is done.
so the NAC will take in the teams that do not join the lake michigan athletic conference? Or is the sliac bringing football back? I wish Mac and Greenville would the NAC. It is better competition. Where do you think would be a good conference for Mac and Greenville to join?

excuse me Pat I thought that you meant the north coast athletic conference. My mistake
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Pat Coleman on April 10, 2006, 02:36:15 pm
The Northern Athletic Conference is the Lake Michigan Conference/Northern Illinois-Iowa Conference merged name, yeah.

Will the SLIAC add football? I think they are maintaining their affiliation with the UMAC. However, the affiliation might reverse itself and it might be UMAC teams playing under the SLIAC banner instead of vice versa. That's what's being discussed above and who knows where it will land. Not sure which is the faster route to the automatic bid, to be honest.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: formerd3db on April 10, 2006, 05:08:04 pm
Thanks Pat for the updated info you have on that.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
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Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: retiredguy on April 10, 2006, 07:34:29 pm
Heard from a solid source Northern IBFC schools leaving in '08 to Great Lakes.  Southern IBFC schools to new SLIAC with some UMAC schools joining SLIAC.  So long IBFC enjoy your weak AQ for two more years.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Ralph Turner on April 10, 2006, 09:33:47 pm
Heard from a solid source Northern IBFC schools leaving in '08 to Great Lakes.  Southern IBFC schools to new SLIAC with some UMAC schools joining SLIAC.  So long IBFC enjoy your weak AQ for two more years.

Retired guy, IMHO, the logical way for the IBFC to react to the changes in the NIIC and LMC merger is this.

NIIC/IBFC--Aurora, Benedictine, Concordia IL.
NIIC/UMAC--Rockford
LMC/IBFC--Concordia WI, Lakeland
LMC/UMAC--Maranatha Baptist
LMC/MIAA--Wisconsin Lutheran (WLC is staying with the MIAA until Tri-State is a full member in 2008.  IMHO, this is the key to the entire set of movements.  Only Maranatha and Rockford do not have access to the Pool A bid.  If the Northern AC wanted to move ahead for a Pool A football bid in 2009, then they could earn one that early and let WLC joion the next year.)

As I understand the NCAA by-laws, the Northern AC would be in Pool B in 2008 & 2009 and then Pool A in 2010.

Then the SLIAC will have these football playing members:  Eureka, Greenville and MacMurray (currently in the IBFC), and Blackburn, Principia and Westminster MO from the UMAC.  Six full members are enough to form the core for the sake of an AQ.  Beginning in 2008, the SLIAC could sponsor football, add the UMAC affiliates (Martin Luther and hopefully UMinn-Morris) and have the 7 or 8 full members.  The SLIAC would be Pool B in 2008 and 2009 and then qualify for the AQ in 2010.

The UMAC members which are sponsoring football are Martin Luther and Provisional 2008 UMinn-Morris and Crown and Provisional Class 2009 Northwestern MN and Presentation.  The UMAC would have 5 full core members in 2009.  They would need to add 2 affiliates to arrive at 7.  By 2011, they would earn the AQ.  By 2009, if College of St Scholastica and Northland were to add football, they would not need to add affiliates.  (Northland and St Scholastica already sponsor Ice Hockey, so I wonder if they would add football.)

Unless more schools add football in the UMAC, I see the easier, faster and more certain way to the AQ to be thru the SLIAC.  If the SLAIC/UMAC wish to continue the North/South division format and the Dome Day tradition, then they could accommodate them easily.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Pat Coleman on April 11, 2006, 01:04:57 am
Heard from a solid source Northern IBFC schools leaving in '08 to Great Lakes. 

Great Lakes?
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: IBFC_Alum on April 11, 2006, 08:16:15 am
Heard from a solid source Northern IBFC schools leaving in '08 to Great Lakes.  Southern IBFC schools to new SLIAC with some UMAC schools joining SLIAC.  So long IBFC enjoy your weak AQ for two more years.
I this works out like you say it will the SLIAC will not be deserving of an AQ. Look at the teams you have mentioned....Mac is the only team to reach the playoffs(2001,2002) and they did not win a playoff game. Greenville is very much improved and in a year ot two could have contended for the IBFC crown.  The rest of the teams are mediocre.  Mac and Greenville should look to go another direction.  Even if it means more travel they have to take a step forward with their programs and not backwards.  It may be complicated to just up and join a new conference but this will not work.  Every year it would be Mac and Greenville winning the conference and then when they get to the playoffs they they would  be hurt by a weak conference schedule. Are their any other options?

Retired guy, IMHO, the logical way for the IBFC to react to the changes in the NIIC and LMC merger is this.

NIIC/IBFC--Aurora, Benedictine, Concordia IL.
NIIC/UMAC--Rockford
LMC/IBFC--Concordia WI, Lakeland
LMC/UMAC--Maranatha Baptist
LMC/MIAA--Wisconsin Lutheran (WLC is staying with the MIAA until Tri-State is a full member in 2008.  IMHO, this is the key to the entire set of movements.  Only Maranatha and Rockford do not have access to the Pool A bid.  If the Northern AC wanted to move ahead for a Pool A football bid in 2009, then they could earn one that early and let WLC joion the next year.)

As I understand the NCAA by-laws, the Northern AC would be in Pool B in 2008 & 2009 and then Pool A in 2010.

Then the SLIAC will have these football playing members:  Eureka, Greenville and MacMurray (currently in the IBFC), and Blackburn, Principia and Westminster MO from the UMAC.  Six full members are enough to form the core for the sake of an AQ.  Beginning in 2008, the SLIAC could sponsor football, add the UMAC affiliates (Martin Luther and hopefully UMinn-Morris) and have the 7 or 8 full members.  The SLIAC would be Pool B in 2008 and 2009 and then qualify for the AQ in 2010.

The UMAC members which are sponsoring football are Martin Luther and Provisional 2008 UMinn-Morris and Crown and Provisional Class 2009 Northwestern MN and Presentation.  The UMAC would have 5 full core members in 2009.  They would need to add 2 affiliates to arrive at 7.  By 2011, they would earn the AQ.  By 2009, if College of St Scholastica and Northland were to add football, they would not need to add affiliates.  (Northland and St Scholastica already sponsor Ice Hockey, so I wonder if they would add football.)

Unless more schools add football in the UMAC, I see the easier, faster and more certain way to the AQ to be thru the SLIAC.  If the SLAIC/UMAC wish to continue the North/South division format and the Dome Day tradition, then they could accommodate them easily.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: IBFC_Alum on April 11, 2006, 08:17:03 am
I this works out like you say it will the SLIAC will not be deserving of an AQ. Look at the teams you have mentioned....Mac is the only team to reach the playoffs(2001,2002) and they did not win a playoff game. Greenville is very much improved and in a year ot two could have contended for the IBFC crown.  The rest of the teams are mediocre.  Mac and Greenville should look to go another direction.  Even if it means more travel they have to take a step forward with their programs and not backwards.  It may be complicated to just up and join a new conference but this will not work.  Every year it would be Mac and Greenville winning the conference and then when they get to the playoffs they they would  be hurt by a weak conference schedule. Are their any other options?
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Ralph Turner on April 11, 2006, 08:56:06 am
I this works out like you say it will the SLIAC will not be deserving of an AQ. Look at the teams you have mentioned....

 Are their any other options?


Whether they are deserving is one thing.  What is permitted by D3 by-laws and philosophy about access to the playoffs is another.

What I have outlined is what I can imagine the SLIAC Presidents and Commissioner might do to offer playoff access to their student-athletes.

Were I the hired consultant, that would be my recommendation. :)

My anti-elitist nature loathes the smug pseudo-superiority of those who think they are better because [of] "TSDS" (shorthand for a common Texas-ism; they believe their feces has no odor).  D3 is about access.  A conference champion, the best among their peers, deserves access.  The expanded format has taken many of the inequities out of the playoff.  (A good IWU made it to the Final Four.) In this case, the bid for this large SLIAC/UMAC conference will "come from Pool B".  Practically speaking, the IBFC bid will move to the Northern AC.

Respectfully, Mac and Greenville are in the SLIAC for all sports.  They are not going to join another conference, and drag all of the programs to the CCIW or the HCAC or the MWC.  That travel would be detrimental to those programs.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: IBFC_Alum on April 11, 2006, 10:08:33 am
The CCIW would be a good fit for Mac beacuse they play a lot of those schools from that conference in other sports as it is anyways.  The CCIW has teams from Wisconsin and the Chicago area as does the IBFC.  So travel would not be an issue with that conference.  Now obviously that is one of the strongest conferences in the nation, so Mac would love to join, but that is not going to happen.  It would take several years for Mac to become even close to a contender in the CCIW but it would be very attrractive to possible recruits down the road. I am a fan for strong competition becaus eit only helps you in the playoffs.  What is the use of going to the playoffs and getting knocked out in the first round every year because you have played a weak schedule. Makes no sense to me. The CCIW is only a dream for Mac though. It will never happen.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: 79jaybird on April 11, 2006, 01:15:51 pm
Of the schools appearing on this board, I would like to see Aurora, CUW, and Lakeland possibly joining the CCIW. At one time Carroll College was apart of the CCIW, prior to joining the MWC
Aurora- b/c the Spartans play CCIW Teams in every sport
CUW/Lakeland-- b/c they are a consistent playoff team and I think would fit in the CC.  They are relatively close to Carthage/NC/EC/Wheaton
I don't know ( and wouldn't suspect) that the CCIW is looking to add schools. 
IMO, I could see the CCIW adding 2 teams = 10  then going to two 5 school brackets.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Gomer Pyle on April 12, 2006, 08:01:53 am
 With all this talk of possible moves by some to the SLIAC i  e-mailed The Information Director of that conference and asked for a comment as to their
   intent on getting back into football.
  Yes, No, Maybe.  As of now, nothing.  Really didn`t expect much but doesn`t cost anything to ask.
  One things for sure i don`t believe any school from
  the IBFC wants to go to a conference that doesn`t have an AQ to the NCAA play-offs.
 
 
   
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: IBFC_Alum on April 12, 2006, 11:51:01 am
My conference pics for next year....

1) Lakeland
2)CUW and Mac
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: IBFC_Alum on April 12, 2006, 11:52:14 am
4) Greenville
5) AU
6)CU-RF
7)Eureka
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: 79jaybird on April 13, 2006, 12:47:01 pm
What about Benedictine?  Where do you see them fitting in?
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: IBFC_Alum on April 13, 2006, 01:18:52 pm
sorry about that.

5) AU
6) BU
7)CURF
8)Eureka

What do you think.........
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: FatalImpact on April 13, 2006, 07:48:04 pm
There is no way that those picks are right.....You gotta get your facts straight man....no way is that in any way shape or form a good selection for the conference next year
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: IBFC_Alum on April 17, 2006, 11:26:34 am
There is no way that those picks are right.....You gotta get your facts straight man....no way is that in any way shape or form a good selection for the conference next year


well what is a good selection?  my guess is you are from aurora and are not happy about placing fifth in my poll. 
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: 79jaybird on April 18, 2006, 12:47:29 pm
Those picks from 3-6 might not be exact, however I don't see anybody getting close to CUW or Lakeland
1 or 2  CUW/Lakeland
3 Macmurray
4  Aurora
5 Greenville
6 Benedictine
7 CURF
8 Eureka
I think CUW will win the title this year.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: IBFC_Alum on April 18, 2006, 01:52:10 pm
What about potential POY Candidates from the IBFC.  Defensive and Offensive side of the ball.  What about Coach of the Year?
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: FatalImpact on April 18, 2006, 05:47:08 pm
well....well.....welll....I dont think you should be assuming where I am from..You know what happens when you assume..what you fail to realize is Mac will not be in the top 3, plus you got lakeland at number one......Mauri was their offense last year no mauri no offense....now dont get me wrong I havent seen the rest of the team...Im just sayin they aint gonna be as good........So  like I said get your facts straight
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: IBFC_Alum on April 19, 2006, 10:30:25 am
well....well.....welll....I dont think you should be assuming where I am from..You know what happens when you assume..what you fail to realize is Mac will not be in the top 3, plus you got lakeland at number one......Mauri was their offense last year no mauri no offense....now dont get me wrong I havent seen the rest of the team...Im just sayin they aint gonna be as good........So like I said get your facts straight


well then post your picks if i am wrong.  If you know so much then your insight on the conference outlook for 2006 would be helpfull.  So when you can get your facts straight and post them for all to see then Maybe I could agree with you on some of your opinions.  Until then keep cheering from the sideline!!!!
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: maddog8 on April 19, 2006, 11:42:27 am
POY------Bobby Langston-----CUW
Offensive Player of the Year--------Andrew Hornang-------AU
Defensive Player of the Year-------John Wagner------------Lakeland

Watch this kid play LB, will NO DOUBT be better than Sam  and Ryan Van Doo Loo were ther senior years

And Please don't under estimate Lakelands Offense, they will be very tough even without Maiuri who is doing well in Europe so far. Wilk should be a very sound QB, Coach "Z" will see to that.

Coach of the Year (WHO ELSE) but Coach "Z" from Lakeland for the third year in a row. If CUW wins the conference then it will be shared with coach "Z"

This will be a MADDOG fight of a game!!!!!!I'm sticking with Lakeland even though Langston will be hard to stop. Remember I said He (Langston) is the KEY to this game!!!
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: IBFC_Alum on April 19, 2006, 12:33:04 pm
POY------Bobby Langston-----CUW
Offensive Player of the Year--------Andrew Hornang-------AU
Defensive Player of the Year-------John Wagner------------Lakeland

Watch this kid play LB, will NO DOUBT be better than Sam and Ryan Van Doo Loo were ther senior years

And Please don't under estimate Lakelands Offense, they will be very tough even without Maiuri who is doing well in Europe so far. Wilk should be a very sound QB, Coach "Z" will see to that.

Coach of the Year (WHO ELSE) but Coach "Z" from Lakeland for the third year in a row. If CUW wins the conference then it will be shared with coach "Z"

This will be a MADDOG fight of a game!!!!!!I'm sticking with Lakeland even though Langston will be hard to stop. Remember I said He (Langston) is the KEY to this game!!!

Nice picks Madog.  I think Langston is the Consensus right now for player of the year. But  Hornung might have some competiton from RB Ereg and WR Martin From Mac.  Also Mac has Pirollo back on Defense (he was all-region last year) so he could be someone else to consider.
I can't argue with your picks though.  I also agree with your comments on Lakeland.  They are a well coached ballclub and even though they have some big holes to fill, the should still have a chance to win the IBFC.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: FatalImpact on April 19, 2006, 01:59:36 pm
Hey...Nice football cliche....Awesome.....if I lay my picks out there.... I would be doin' what everyone else is doin' I'd end up bein a homer such as yourself no doubt.....everyone on this board wants their team to win no harm no foul....but when you start sayin that a team that has been having internal problems with coaches and is in the bottom of the conference last year ahead of two of the top five teams in the conference from last year...I would say you need to get YOUR facts straight.......Stop quoting it looks rediculous like you got nothin to say
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: IBFC_Alum on April 19, 2006, 02:44:28 pm
Hey...Nice football cliche....Awesome.....if I lay my picks out there.... I would be doin' what everyone else is doin' I'd end up bein a homer such as yourself no doubt.....everyone on this board wants their team to win no harm no foul....but when you start sayin that a team that has been having internal problems with coaches and is in the bottom of the conference last year ahead of two of the top five teams in the conference from last year...I would say you need to get YOUR facts straight.......Stop quoting it looks rediculous like you got nothin to say

First, If you have not yet  noticed I am not alumni of Lakeland or CUW but yet I picked them to be at the top of the conference. I do not completely understand your point there. Second, are you not a "homer" too if you are posting on this website?  That is the point of this message board. To discuss issues in the conference.  If you do not like what is said here then why are you posting here? Third, My opinions are exactly that, "my opinions". I never said that my picks were facts you did. I sorry that I do not have the crystal ball that you have, that allows me to know precisely how the conference will pan out next year. My picks were simply my opinions. You obviously know everything so why even play the games next year.  We could just email you and you could tell us how the season went. Lastly, what does this mean "Stop quoting it looks rediculous like you got nothin to say"

Signed,
Homer of the Year
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: FatalImpact on April 19, 2006, 03:39:33 pm
First off....How do you know I'm a homer...huh?...Where am I from then...If I am such a homer...I never even said where I was from....your assuming again.....thats not good.....Anyways....if you were reading I have no beef for any one that is a homer I just wanna know how it is you came to your opinion on the picks you take the top 4 teams last season (Lakeland, CUW, Aurora, and Greenville) and based on previous years CUW and lakeland should have top positions but then you place Mac in front of greenville and Aurora, Mac was in the bottom three and now they're in the top 3 man shut up....You must be crazy....Greenville turns its program around and there all of a sudden no good.....Man I don't understand where you are coming from when you try to put other people out there and Like when you say show me your pics....why so u can pretty much tell me how dumb I am......if I put my picks out there everyone will be all over me...so don't come at me sayin that I shouldnt post here if I dont like what is said.....I dont like what YOU said I aint gonna stop posting and you can believe that!

Signed,
I'm better than you
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: fishguy on April 19, 2006, 06:51:19 pm
now dont get me wrong I havent seen the rest of the team...Im just sayin they aint gonna be as good........So  like I said get your facts straight

So you admit you have not seen the rest of the team, but yet you know how good they will be??? And you ask others to get their facts straight??? Wow, that's really an informed opinion - thanks so much for sharing!!!
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Big_Uns on April 19, 2006, 09:00:36 pm
now dont get me wrong I havent seen the rest of the team...Im just sayin they aint gonna be as good........So  like I said get your facts straight

So you admit you have not seen the rest of the team, but yet you know how good they will be??? And you ask others to get their facts straight??? Wow, that's really an informed opinion - thanks so much for sharing!!!

If only I could give out karma points.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: FatalImpact on April 19, 2006, 10:40:02 pm
What did I offend you fishguy???.....Well let me put it this way I have indeed seen every team in this conference but like I stated before new players may not be as good as players gone by.....for instance your muskies lost a very powerful offensive tool.....so your tellin me the kid behind him is gonna put up the same numbers and have the same skill level as Mauri when all he got to play last year was when Mauuri broke his leg and that wasnt even a whole game.....We shall see...SO I have my facts straight...SO lets see what happens.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: IBFC_Alum on April 20, 2006, 09:39:17 am
First off....How do you know I'm a homer...huh?...Where am I from then...If I am such a homer...I never even said where I was from....your assuming again.....thats not good.....Anyways....if you were reading I have no beef for any one that is a homer I just wanna know how it is you came to your opinion on the picks you take the top 4 teams last season (Lakeland, CUW, Aurora, and Greenville) and based on previous years CUW and lakeland should have top positions but then you place Mac in front of greenville and Aurora, Mac was in the bottom three and now they're in the top 3 man shut up....You must be crazy....Greenville turns its program around and there all of a sudden no good.....Man I don't understand where you are coming from when you try to put other people out there and Like when you say show me your pics....why so u can pretty much tell me how dumb I am......if I put my picks out there everyone will be all over me...so don't come at me sayin that I shouldnt post here if I dont like what is said.....I dont like what YOU said I aint gonna stop posting and you can believe that!

Signed,
I'm better than you

First, Who cares where you are from.  Second, what is a homer? Third, was greenville not in the bottom three in the 2004 season and came back to finnish in the top three in the 2005 season?  So why can't Mac do that. So I still do not understand your point there.  I guess in your world a team can never rise from the bottom three and a team in the top three can never fall. Fourth, you said "Man I don't understand where you are coming from when you try to put other people out there and Like when you say show me your pics....why so u can pretty much tell me how dumb I am......if I put my picks out there everyone will be all over me..."  Are you not putting your picks out there if you tell me that Mac should not be #3 and Greenville should not be #4? So in a sense you are being a hypocrit because your are revealing your picks your just not listing them in order. Lastly, I prefer someone disagreeing with my picks. Then we could compare our picks and discuss why feel each other is right without getting all psycho like you have.  Putting picks out on a message board is for fun. Its part of being involved with football in this conference.  You follow the teams, decide who you think will have a good year (based on returning players), root for your team and have fun seeing if your predictions are right. Thats all!!! No reason to get bent out of shape about it like you have because the picks I made did not go your way.  I never bashed you for telling me I was wrong. All I wanted to see was your picks so I could discuss on this board why I think I am right and why you think you are right. Thats all!!! Point being do not bash others if you are SCARED!!!!!! to post your own picks. It's great that you did not "like what I said" and your going to "keep posting".  One day you will not be SCARED!!!! anymore and will post your picks.  You know its ok to be wrong sometimes, don't you?

Signed,

Not Scared to Post Predictions (unlike Fecal Impact)
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: FalconsFootball on April 20, 2006, 10:30:52 am
Macmurry does have a lot of talent and could definately make it in the top three if they play to potential.  However, they have not done that in the last couple years except for almost beating LC this past year till their Qb got hurt.  Greenville has also done a good joib turning things around (in part due to playing LC and CUW with homefield advantage; and we all know how hard it is to play in the bermuda triangle of football). 

Anyways the point is the conference is as even right now as it has been in years and should shape up to be a good year for games that are competative outside of the first quarter.  As IBFC Alum said opinions are opinions fatal impact you are welcome to argue your opinion but there is no need to jump on someone liek that.  Make an educated statement and you will be respected for it and people will listen to your opinion as well.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: IBFC_Alum on April 20, 2006, 11:41:00 am
Thank you falcsfb,

I made Mac the #3,  based on the same facts that you have listed.  QB-Smchidtke is back, RB-Ereg is back, WR-Martin is back and LB-Pirollo is back.  On paper, the talent is there they just can't seem to put it all together. Greenville has also done a great job in turning it around but in 2006 they are on the road at lakeland and at CUW.  Throw the records away because when you play at Sheybogan and Mequon it is always a tough game.  That is what I am trying to to base my picks off of, THE FACTS!!! Mac plays Aurora and Lakeland at home. Goes on the the road to play CUW. To me that is more favorable than Greenvilles schedule.

I also agree that this year the conference could be wide open. A lot of teams have a lot of holes to fill or in Mac's case, a lot of expectations to live up too with the talent they have. Teams have to show up and execute week in and week out or someone will sneek up on you. Regardless of records!!!!!
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Da One on April 20, 2006, 01:19:23 pm
I find it hillarious that Fatal thinks putting his picks on the board will make us think he is "dumb."  Yet, he continues to make asinine statements regarding other peoples OPINION.  We don't need your picks to evaluate your intelligence.  Everything else you say gives us a very clear picture.

That being said, in my OPINION I think the IBC will end up like this:
1)Lakeland-2 time defending champs.  Many holes to fill, but they are the champs until someone proves other wise.
2)CUW-great D, must become more balanced on O
3)MAC-Ereg top RB in the IBC and an experienced QB
4)BU-young talent good coaching (lots of injuries last year, plus Sergo has 1 more year)
5)AU-Hornang is the best QB in IBC, needs help from the run game.  Many holes on D to fill
6)Grnvlle-Tough road schedule
7)CURF-new coach (D-1) with best location in IBC has to be able to land at least 2 impact recruits
8)EC-poor facilities, crappy location, makes it very hard to recruit.  Things don't seem to be getting any better at the gippers old school

Now remember, these are just my OPINION.  I did not receive any prophetic like insight from a higher power.  Nor did I find a stone tablet with the results inscripted on it.  I am just taking a marginally educated guess
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: IBFC_Alum on April 20, 2006, 01:28:31 pm
Thanks for your picks Da One!!

I'm glad your not SCARED like Fecal Impact!!!!

Almost identical to my picks we have BU and GU switched.
I think BU is a school on the rise. After a couple of down years they have improved facilities and coaching to get themselves back to the top of the conference where they used to be. They could be a school toi watch here in the next couple of seasons.

Also, are any other IBFC shcools planning on upgrading their facilities at all?
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: FatalImpact on April 20, 2006, 02:47:30 pm
Fecal Impact....lol.....I like it shows guts....not brains but guts.....Any way....way to go gettin people on your side fighting for  the cause of people thinkin' I'm scare....I aint scared of nothin....If you read the previous posts you would know exactly what a homer is........Don't get me wrong.......See now after all is said when I do in fact posts my picks....You wanna talk picks well here ya go!!!!
1)AU
2)LC
3)CUW
4)Greenville
5)BU
6)MAC
7)CURF
8)EC

And by the way....It's Greenville College Not Greenville University....IBFC_ALUM......Way to go
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: IBFC_Alum on April 20, 2006, 03:03:46 pm
Who's the HOMER NOW............

J/K See, now how hard was that.  Aurora has a very good chance of winning the conference next year.  Hornang is a great QB and they have good talent.  However I feel that they are a great RB away from competing. The rest of your picks I really can't argue because they are very similar to my own.
 So I understand your beef now, it was the fact that I had Mac rated above Greenville.  It did not matter where I put Mac as long as it was below Greenville.  You have a legitimate argument there. Greenville was a better team than Mac last year.  However, I felt Mac underachieved last year and Greenville overachieved. No one besides Greenville players knew that they were capable of that kind of season last year.  I do not feel it will be that way this year. Just my opinion.
If Mac does not come out and perform the way they should then I will have to eat my words and say I was wrong. I am fine with that. I appreciate your positive contribution to this message board. You can now return to FatalImpact as you were.

Signed,

Can't we all get along

Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: FatalImpact on April 20, 2006, 08:28:34 pm
It will be an interesting to see how this season turns out to say the least....I Can't Wait
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: IBFC_Alum on April 21, 2006, 09:07:33 am
especially since this could be the last year of the IBFC conference.  Old rivalries may not be played again for a long time.  Hopefully this will be the year our conference will get some respect and win a playoff game. 

Lakeland players how do you feel about Coach Z interviewing for other Coaching jobs?  I can understand a Coach interviewing for a job if they are moving to D-II, D-IAA, or D-I but for another D-III school in the same state. As a player I would feel uneasy about that.  But I guess the almighty dollar rules in D-III coaching.  Coach Z has a chance at Lakeland to make them a perenial D-III power.  Tough decision I guess.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: formerd3db on April 22, 2006, 08:45:11 am
IBFC Alum:

Wow, he "just" got there.  That would be an unfortunate loss for Lakeland, although, admittedly, I don't know the "behind the scenes" aspects there.  On other hand, one can't blame the guy for wanting to improve his situation for himself and family if an improved opportunity becomes available.  Yes, you are right, always a tough decision for anyone.   
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Pat Coleman on April 22, 2006, 09:32:46 am
There is a long way to go to make Lakeland a perennial D-III power ...
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: IBFC_Alum on April 23, 2006, 03:07:07 pm
I agree with you there Pat, but the foundation is there.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: FatalImpact on April 24, 2006, 11:59:25 pm
Real cool formerd3db, "He 'just' got it" real cool.........Anyway Pat is right....They just took a huge blow to their offense by losing Mauri.....I dont think his back up will be like him....We'll see.....But for now I think it will turn out interesing to say the least.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: redman04 on April 25, 2006, 11:24:03 am
Pat or Any CURF fans/ player ect... Know what happened to Bob Conwell?  Any idea where he went to?

thanks
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Cougswillwin on April 25, 2006, 02:33:04 pm
Don't quote me on this, but through some other players that have seen him around, I have hear he is still in the area because his wife has a job around here and they just got an apartment or house or something.  I've also heard a rumor that he is possibly going to coach high school with one of his good buddies that coached with him at Carthage and one year here under Coach Hynes.  Anyways, these are all just things that I have heard, Coach Conwell has been flying under the radar ever since he got fired.  I havent seen him or heard from him since the day we turned our uniforms in.  Kind of a sad story cause he was a really nice guy.  But I feel like we are definately heading in the right direction now.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: redman04 on April 25, 2006, 03:00:58 pm
Thanks for the info.  I have always liked coach Conwell and thought he was always a very good coach and good person!  I hope he is doing well
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Genius on April 25, 2006, 08:35:46 pm
Who is John Wagner? He was the 16th leading tackler in the conference. I don't think he was even 1st or 2nd team conference. i know he wasn't f1st team.

Maddog your bias is at an all time high.

#25 LB from Greenville- D player of the year.
Aurora QB - O player of the year.


Picks
1. CUW (best defense, athletic QB, great WR)
2. Lakeland (lost core of offense. could fall behind GC-but good overall talent)
3. Greenville (10 D starters return)
4. Aurora (best QB-2nd year coach)
5. Benedict (Great coach)
6. Mac (no oline -won't score much- great LB pirrollo)
7. CURF
8. Eureka
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: IBFC_Alum on April 26, 2006, 10:58:37 am
Genius,

You say Lakeland is second behind CUW because they"lost core of offense" You also said "best defense, athletic QB, great WR" is why CUW is number one.  What about your RB situation.  Doesn't CUW run the ball more than they throw it?
Losing Mills is a huge hit to your offense. How do you replace him?  I do not doubt that CUW will be at the top of the conference but A great QB and a great Reciever will not be as effective without a great running game (unless you plan on throwing the ball 30-40 times a game). Without a doubt CUW has a great defense but I think they will find it hard to run the ball this year but time will tell if they have a back step up and take control of the running game.  If they find that back then I think they will win the conference.

You also picked the LB from GC to win defensive player of the year.  Thats a good pick.  I think that race will be very tight this year with Pirillo from Mac, GC # 25 and the DL from CUW.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: footballisfun on April 26, 2006, 09:07:47 pm
Hi,
Here is what I see happening in the IBFC

1.) CUW
2 and 3.) Mac or Lakeland
4.) GC
5.) Ben.
6.) Eurka
7.) CURF

Here is why:

On paper CUW has the most talent coming back and they look really good this year. I think Lakeland will take second or third because while they may have strong players coming back I personally dont think that the guys stepping up are not as good as the players they lost.  I think mac will take second or third because lets face it they had a really down year last year, they had an almost entirely new Coaching staff, a new defence and a lot of young starting.  From what I hear, however, their head coach has worked them hard this off season and is really trying to get the team turned around from last year, I dont think they will win the IBFC but I think they will return to the top half of the confrence.  I think that while Greenville does return a lot of players on Def. their offence will be a slight problem (but not to much).  Their defence is good because they are prepaired each week, they know what to expect from their oppoents and I really think that it will save them and perhaps even mess up the way that I think the IBCF will play out.  I think that Ben., while they had a ok year last year with beating mac and all, that they will still play competitively but they will not be able to beat Mac or GC.  Eurka will beat CURF and CURF while they have gotten a new coaching staff, wont make that much of a turn around this year.  A large part of my standing play out however hing on mac.  To rank them so high after a really bad season is risky, but I think that if they can pull themselves together and play together and have their offence and def. play consistantly then they will do well.

As far as Off. and Def. player of the year goes, I am not sure.  It is to hard to tell by just looking at what is coming back next year as well as the fact that anyone can have a good or bad season any time.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: footballisfun on April 26, 2006, 09:19:01 pm
Wow, I forgot Aurora, that was stupid.

I see them tied with GC at #4

I think a few good games next year are going to be:

Mac Vs. Lakeland (these guys do not like each other).
Lakeland Vs. CUW
Mac Vs. GC
GC Vs. Aurora
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: wow_2004 on April 27, 2006, 12:00:04 am
IBFC_ALUM:

You said that losing mills is a huge hit for the falcons' offense, but i disagree. I played at Concordia a few years ago and as i recall, when Concordia won the conference championship in 2003, and represented the IBFC in the playoffs, Manny (Mills) was injured in the first quarter of that game and could not play the rest of the game against #9 ranked U-W Lacrosse. So who stepped up and took his place??? A guy by the name of Aaron Gillespie. He ended up rushing for 142 yards on 22 carries for a td. The ironic thing about that was, he was a true freshman!!!! He will now be a senior. He has played wing for the last 2 seasons and is more than likely to return to running back where he is more dominant. Dont think that Concordia's running game is weak because Mills is gone. Concordia has a balanced offense and defense and i believe they will get the job done in 06'.!!!!
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: maddog8 on April 27, 2006, 07:21:23 am
Genius, mark my works down this kid will not the smart's right out of you. Expose yourself and then tell me if I am bias. He will be conference player of the year when he becomes a senior in 3 years. His name will be household by the end of next season.

And you guys pick who you want for this years player of the year, but again I will be right when they choose BOBBY LANGSTON from CUW, did I say CUW, I thought I was bias!!!!!!!!
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: maddog8 on April 27, 2006, 07:26:17 am
Da One, how's it going fella, Luther look like conference champs this yr, fill me in. I pick you and Coe as top 2 in conference.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: IBFC_Alum on April 27, 2006, 08:10:00 am
IBFC_ALUM:

You said that losing mills is a huge hit for the falcons' offense, but i disagree. I played at Concordia a few years ago and as i recall, when Concordia won the conference championship in 2003, and represented the IBFC in the playoffs, Manny (Mills) was injured in the first quarter of that game and could not play the rest of the game against #9 ranked U-W Lacrosse. So who stepped up and took his place??? A guy by the name of Aaron Gillespie. He ended up rushing for 142 yards on 22 carries for a td. The ironic thing about that was, he was a true freshman!!!! He will now be a senior. He has played wing for the last 2 seasons and is more than likely to return to running back where he is more dominant. Dont think that Concordia's running game is weak because Mills is gone. Concordia has a balanced offense and defense and i believe they will get the job done in 06'.!!!!

You make a good point but you forget to realize that he had a good game against UW-Lacrosse but that was with the 2003 playoff offensive line, will that be the same story with the 2006 offensive line?  Only time will tell.  To me, mills was a special player. Yes, he had a good offensive line but he had a knack for turning small plays into big ones.  I played on both of Mac's conference Championship teams(2001,2002), when CUW had Conference player of the year, Cedric Simmons and Manny Mills. Trying to play defense against both was tough, and in my opinion there was not that much of a let down when when manny got the ball to spell Cedric. Now granted that was a different O-line as well, but Manny was a special back. If Gillespie steps and does the things you say he will then CUW will be very tough this year. But like I said only time will tell.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: IBFC_Alum on April 27, 2006, 08:23:20 am
The 44,

I agree with you on Mac.  They had a terrible year last year by anyones standards and especially by Coach McCray's standards.  Like we both said they have a ton of talent and they are young.  When those two elements combine and finally click, they could be very dangerous. And they still have good upperclassmen with QB Schmidtke, RB Ereg and LB Pirillo.  I like them being the underdog. I think it will make them play harder. Playing Augustana the first game of the year will help get them prepared for a tough conference schedule.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Da One on April 27, 2006, 09:46:23 am
Maddog,

Things out here are going well.  The IIAC doesn't allow spring practice, but our men are having the best spring we've ever had.  The team captains run all of the off-season workouts.  We have about 75 returning players on campus and we have had at least 63 at every workout session.  Not to mention that 9 of those 75 run track.  We will be without our senior RB next year.  He is taking a medical red-shirt with a shoulder injury.  Good news we have a stud #2 RB who is an absolute hammer.  With our QB, WR's, and vetran O-line we should be solid.  On D we have to replace 2 great corners, but we have everyone else back.  This is shaping up to be our best recruiting class.  We have a ton of speed comming in.  Our league is so tough top to bottom, you never know what the season will bring. 

How is Ryan liking Europe?  You said he is playing DB, safety or corner?  What is the name of the team again?  We will scrimage Lakeland again this year, a little closer to you.  Any chance you make it over to watch?

Da One
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: footballisfun on April 27, 2006, 01:52:17 pm
The 44,

I agree with you on Mac.  They had a terrible year last year by anyones standards and especially by Coach McCray's standards.  Like we both said they have a ton of talent and they are young.  When those two elements combine and finally click, they could be very dangerous. And they still have good upperclassmen with QB Schmidtke, RB Ereg and LB Pirillo.  I like them being the underdog. I think it will make them play harder. Playing Augustana the first game of the year will help get them prepared for a tough conference schedule.

First of all, personally I dont think that Schmidtke is that great of a QB.  Now that Balirino (sp?) is gone his preformance has really fell of.  Just watch (I am not a football expert) Schmidtke seems to hang on to the fall to long and when he does let it go, he seems to try and force it to the reciever he wants when their are other open recievers.  However, this could also be because his So. year he go sacked I like a total of like 12 or 15 times or something but this yearhe got sacked that many times in the first 3 games so it could just be a lack of confidence in his offencive line.  (man I feel really bad for bashing this kid like this because it is a tough job to play QB).

I guess while I am on the subject of talking about kids, Ereg didnt look as good as he has in years past.  So people say that he had a few injuries that hurt his preformance but you have to remember he is going to be 25 or 26 next year which is old to be playing football with the physical type of runner he is.  The good news about this, however is that Mac has a kid named Chris Baker who has shown signs that he could be really really good in years to come.

O.K. Enought with all that. From what I hear Mac is shaping up to have a good season this year also because they are working hard in the weight room and with their running.  I know that all the teams are working hard but from what I understand in years past not to many of Mac's players would lift or run hard but I have heard (from a very good source) that the new Strength and Conditioning Coach (Postma) is doing a great job about getting the kids in the weight room and they are all lifting which is a big step in the right direction for this program.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: IBFC_Alum on April 27, 2006, 03:07:12 pm
The 44,

I do not know what you heard in the past but Mac players have always lifted. The scrubs never lifted but that was their choice and believe me they were not around long.  Look in the weight room next time you are there at Mac. You will see a lot of lifting records from the years 2001-2005. Schmidtke is a good QB you will see this year now that he has some experience around him. Ereg will be fine.  This will be the year that they get it turned around.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: footballisfun on April 27, 2006, 04:06:19 pm
I can see where you are coming from with Schmidtke not having the experiance around him.  He did have a young group of recivers around him last season and they are older and hopfully better.  I know that Ereg will be fine as well but I dont think that he will be the power house that he was 2 years ago is all I am saying, time is catching up to him.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Genius on April 27, 2006, 05:19:01 pm
Maddog,

You can be biased on one point and then be captian obvious on a different point. It is hard to argue with Langston as P.O.Y.

I personally don't see him winning it because he is a DL and i expect that a LB (more opportunities to make big plays) will win it. I think #25 from GC is the LB.

Wagner may be great in 3 years. Set a reminder on your outlook to write again in 3years and bring up his name. For right now, he doesn't deserve to be mentioned.

Mills was a great back. I  don't think they will miss him that much. Most of their oline is back and the other 2 backs are returning. They also have the best return game in the conference. Although their punt team was suspect. With their Dfense they may not need to score many points this year anyway. That is why i pick them #1.

however, anytime you are a 1 dimensional offense, people have a chance to stop you. So by no means am i saying no one else has a chance. But they get the nod if i was betting.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: maddog8 on April 28, 2006, 02:21:06 am
Genius, you make valid points, I agree CUW will be up there at the top. As for Wagner I am sticking with this kid, he is a man at a kids age. His  maturity for the game is way to advanced for his age. For sure a student of the game like Ryan was.

Da One, Ryan is loving Europe and tearing up, He is playing OLB put on 18 more pounds. In 3 games has 2 INT's and took one 68 yrds for a TD, he is also playing WR and KR/PR.  Ran one KR 90 for a TD. He is playing for the Hamburg Blue Devils the farm team for the Sea Devils.  In 3 weeks has seen 4 different Countries. Not to mention he is making good $. Surprised he adapted so well to Defense.

Keep in touch, I may make the Scrimage we'll see.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: IBFC_Alum on April 28, 2006, 11:43:07 am
I can see where you are coming from with Schmidtke not having the experiance around him. He did have a young group of recivers around him last season and they are older and hopfully better. I know that Ereg will be fine as well but I dont think that he will be the power house that he was 2 years ago is all I am saying, time is catching up to him.

You can't be a powerhouse when you do not have an offensive line that is not very good (2005 O-line).  But times are changing at Mac.  With admission requirements being raised every single year since Coach McCray was hired at Mac,  the overall team talent has not been there. This is something previous Mac Head coaches did not have to deal with.  But those admission requirements are for the better of the school and for the better of football program.  It will help bring in better character, smarter players and keep players around for all four years of college.  These past couple of seasons have been a transitional period for Mac and it has been tough.  I think you will see a more improved Mac team this year and more consistent Mac teams down the road.  McCray is a great head coach and teams will see that this year.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Reeno10 on April 28, 2006, 04:15:52 pm
guess whos back.... hey first thing first football is fun the correct spelling is BALLERINO... let me get into this on offense my boy pete is not falln off watch out this year IBFC talkn to pete he is ready to lead MAC back to the championship where it belongs, i agree the QB postion is a tough but mike is a smart DUDE he can handle it hey MIKE just throw the ball like i always told u trust ur WRs, now MAC has an excellent WR named T. Martin he is going to do some special things at MAC i think with him and ereg as a 1 to 2 punch MAC can do some damage and take control again....  now the D o **** ur telln me with #9 Larry Pirollo in the middle who is going to score on MAC u have the best LB in the country and wheres he from LAKE MARY, FL .. larry represent the LAKE DUDE.... larry is going to have the IBFC by the balls and hes going to be the leader of that team and D.. Larry has a big year MAC has  big year all teams get ready to see # 9 all up in that ass yeaaaaaaaaaaaa DUDE.. coach McCray whats up dude how r things in IL  bet u wish u were here in the FLA chillin wit me haha
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Reeno10 on April 28, 2006, 04:19:42 pm
heres how i think next year will go
1. MAC
2. CUW
3.lakeland
4. AU
5.greenville
6.eureka
7.BU
8.CURF

Hey # 9 u cant leave MAC without a ring i got 2 hahah
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: FBfan01 on April 28, 2006, 05:41:06 pm
What was the score of the Mac-Cuw game last year??? I dont think mac is going to be good at all. they come to Cuw this year and thats it. Mac is going to get crushed. Nice try.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: footballisfun on April 29, 2006, 12:21:56 am
FBfan01,

Last year doesnt matter, especially in the IBFC.  A perfect example is GC, they went from being a not so good team to a team that supprised a lot of people this year.

Renno,

I hope #9 can pull it together but is the lead Macs team
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Pat Coleman on April 29, 2006, 04:42:55 pm
If I recall correctly, four of the eight coaches were new last year. Those teams may make significant strides in year two under their new coaches.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: maddog8 on May 01, 2006, 01:41:39 am
Genius, I guess the best way I can see to explain WHO John Wagner is, well go to the vidio store and rent the movie "WATERBOT", yes "WATERBOY", John is identical to BOBBY BUSHA! and yes he loves his MaMa, so be careful what you say in that game around him. I will feel responsible if he punishes you to badly.

As for m dark horse at running back, LEADING RUSHER IN "CONFERENCE" will be Lakelands running horse (No not Mr. Ed) but Mr. Ergman hope I spelled it right. No doubt will rush for over 1,000 yrds.

As for mu SCARED KITTY, God Bless you today and IT will be a wonderful DAY for you, promise. and the rest of you don't even ASK!
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: maddog8 on May 01, 2006, 01:44:55 am
Keep in mind that he will be the leading rusher in conference play because the first 3 games will be against powerhouses, un like the rest of the IBFC and their NON-Conference schedules, but thats how Coach-"Z" prepares against THE BEST!!!!!!!!!
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: sotha sil on May 01, 2006, 03:40:35 am
pssst...madddog...CUW plays north central...so maybe you shoud say..like most of the conference not rest of the conference.....
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: maddog8 on May 01, 2006, 04:49:52 am
sotha sil, one tough game is nothing compared to (3) very tough games, Whitewater, Oshkosh, Carthage. I'd take North Central any day of the week. Show me a tougher non- conference schedule in this conference!!
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: sotha sil on May 01, 2006, 05:22:05 pm
well, we also have carthage in a scrimmage.....so, you do have a tough one im not saying ya dont probably shaping to be the toughest...but, you would take north central any day of the week? come on now that is a program way better than carthage or uwo
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: IBFC_Alum on May 02, 2006, 12:41:25 pm
What was the score of the Mac-Cuw game last year??? I dont think mac is going to be good at all. they come to Cuw this year and thats it. Mac is going to get crushed. Nice try.

Who cares about Last year!!! Keep living in the past man.  Just like Pat said "If I recall correctly, four of the eight coaches were new last year. Those teams may make significant strides in year two under their new coaches. "  I know Mac does not have a new coach but the whole coaching staff was brand new last year.  So watch out for the changes.  CUW goes down at home.  Go HIGHLANDERS!!!!!!!!!!!!
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: IBFC_Alum on May 02, 2006, 01:50:17 pm
Keep in mind that he will be the leading rusher in conference play because the first 3 games will be against powerhouses, un like the rest of the IBFC and their NON-Conference schedules, but thats how Coach-"Z" prepares against THE BEST!!!!!!!!!

Mac plays Auggie this year Non-Conference.    All that hard non-conference scheduling Lakeland did, did not earn Lakeland a playoff victory. So no excuses!!!  Maybe we should scrap conventional wisdom of playing tough non-conference games, Maybe if you play scrubs for your  non-conference games and build your stats to a ridiculous amount, you would get a better seed in the playoffs and play someone easier. Because the IBFC AQ will always be the lowest seed until one of them wins a playoff game. Maddog,  You do know who Auggie is right? J/K

Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: SCARED KITTY on May 02, 2006, 03:13:35 pm
Maddog----Thanks. I'm doing good. New kitten my have some problems.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Gomer Pyle on May 02, 2006, 04:02:05 pm
 Footballisfun:
   Phonetically you were close on "Balirino" as that pretty much sounds like it would have been spelled.
   As i said,"close" but no cigar.  :D
    He was a super Wr for Mac a couple of years ago
    wearing #10 plus he was the "Conference
     Receiver of the Year" as well.
    One other interesting note,  he made the Div-3 Team Of The Week (2) twice in one season. Not
    many guys do that.
 Even Maddog liked him and he didn`t play for
    Lakeland. Go figure.  ;D
 

   
     
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Gomer Pyle on May 02, 2006, 04:27:15 pm
Reeno10: 
    2 posts and your "back" ? 
    You better get a (real) job and leave the football
    prognosticating to others. 
     ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: sotha sil on May 03, 2006, 01:02:34 am
I figure alum is sarcastic...but still...i dont think running the stats up will help...but, i dont think playing three really good non conference games is the way to go...you end up getting beat up regardless of wins or losses...i know lakeland and cuw beat each other up enough...and regardless of the mac cuw score last year...there was hitting going on on both sides...so, maybe a tough one or two games is the way to go...but that is my philosophy..the coach at lakeland has won a couple and the one at cuw has...so, i guess it really is opinion...

random thoughts by the sil....new conference will hurt the good schools like cuw and lakeland bc the conference sadly will get weaker...i think they will not have a bid for the ncaa tourny...

cuw has the three best offensive atheletes and the best o-lineman...their coach is under appreciated

GC's LB is by far the most exciting player to watch before the snap....and one of the best in the conference....

Maddog pisses me off more than makes me happy..but i cant help but love him...

Bobby langston is amazing...but wilbur allen is the biggest beast of a player this conference has seen...

mike stien is pound for pound the strongest player in the conference...

some players in this conference have played for 6 or 7 years and its slipping through... lol this ish is so random
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: maddog8 on May 03, 2006, 02:10:31 am
IBFC-Alum, Actually Mac has two highly rated coaches from Saginaw Valley one of the best D-II programs in the country, so BANK on the fact they know their stuff, again Mac's ONLY problem I see is there attitude as a TEAM, listen to their coaches and play physical like they can and LOOK OUT IBFC because they will be BACK.

Sure I know who Auggie is, they let a QB with a broken Fibula, throw for unbelievable yrd and 2 TD.s in the second half. and again woulda, coulda shoulda I know but had Ryan been healthy and able to run and play his game. NO DOUBT Lakeland would have won that game. How does a kid throw for 183 yrds and 2 TD's with a broken leg IN ONE HALF. Sure I know Auggie!

Kitty call Maddog today!!!! I need to bark at you!!!!!!
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: IBFC_Alum on May 03, 2006, 09:00:07 am
IBFC-Alum, Actually Mac has two highly rated coaches from Saginaw Valley one of the best D-II programs in the country, so BANK on the fact they know their stuff, again Mac's ONLY problem I see is there attitude as a TEAM, listen to their coaches and play physical like they can and LOOK OUT IBFC because they will be BACK.

Sure I know who Auggie is, they let a QB with a broken Fibula, throw for unbelievable yrd and 2 TD.s in the second half. and again woulda, coulda shoulda I know but had Ryan been healthy and able to run and play his game. NO DOUBT Lakeland would have won that game. How does a kid throw for 183 yrds and 2 TD's with a broken leg IN ONE HALF. Sure I know Auggie!

Kitty call Maddog today!!!! I need to bark at you!!!!!!

Lakeland does put 11 guys on the field like eveyone else don't they?  No doubt that Ryan had a great IDIVIDUAL!!!!! effort but football is a team game.  Ryan would have had to thrown 3 more touchdowns to keep up with the points Lakelands defense was giving up that day. But what is in the past is in the past and thats that. I agree with you on the Mac situation 100%.  If their attitude changes (which it will) Mac will be BACK.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: FalconsFootball on May 03, 2006, 10:51:13 am
How do some of these people keep finding eligibility.  Are they handing out red-shirt seasons for playing on a crappy team?
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: IBFC_Alum on May 03, 2006, 10:54:49 am
How do some of these people keep finding eligibility. Are they handing out red-shirt seasons for playing on a crappy team?

You would have to ask the CUW athletic director about that.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: FalconsFootball on May 03, 2006, 10:59:51 am
I agree that Mac we be an extremely tough team to beat if they pull their heads out of their back ends.  Once they are down however, they are down for the count (in years past).  But I don't see them stealing one at CUW.  I am extremely excited to see how the conference shapes up this coming season.  Could a team with one conference loss be the sole champion?  There should be some actual excitement for more than two weekends in the conference schedual this time around.    

Just when the IBFC is getting strong from top to bottom its being broken up and good teams are being put with even weaker teams.  Hope everyone is having a good spring and working hard.  Keep it up this summer.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: FalconsFootball on May 03, 2006, 11:01:17 am
I'll do that right after I ask Benedictines and Macs
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: IBFC_Alum on May 03, 2006, 11:11:00 am
who was that linemen that CUW had during the 2004 season from Utah.  Wasn't he a player coach?
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Pat Coleman on May 03, 2006, 11:35:46 am
How do some of these people keep finding eligibility. Are they handing out red-shirt seasons for playing on a crappy team?

You would have to ask the CUW athletic director about that.

Redshirts are handled with the NCAA by the conference, in this case almost assuredly the Lake Michigan Conference. In my experience the school's full-time conference is the one involved.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Genius on May 03, 2006, 12:09:43 pm
Mac will need more than attitude to get better. It's called an Oline and Dline. 2 coaches from Saginaw huh? the DB coach played there. his bio said nothing about him coaching there. Playing for a good program has nothing to do with being a good coach. D coordinator at Mac. Needs some help. When you can't stop greenville or Bene's offense you have problems, coaching problems.

Mac has a good LB, WR, RB, QB...that is not enough. That teams that have been successful in the last couple years AU, CUW, LC all have good o and d lines. everything starts up front. No line= no success.

Lakeland's 1st offense is better than Augustana's 2nd defense. That is why Mauri had 2tds. They could ever stop Auggies offense though, so it didn't matter.

A big part of Lakeland's offense was Mauri being a really good athlete. Having an athletic QB took that offense to the next level. I don't see there rushing or passing attacking being as good if there new QB doesn't have that running ability like Mauri.

Peter Ereg for Mac was listed as a senior last year. How is it that he is back this year?
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: IBFC_Alum on May 03, 2006, 12:36:11 pm
Ereg began his career at Western Mchigan and then transferred to Mac.  He was listed as a senior academically but not athletically. This will be is senior year in athletics.

I agree with the statement that you need a good oline and d-line to be succesfull. Because back in 2001 and 2002 when Mac was stomping a mudhole throughout the IBFC, we had the biggest and strongest Lines in the conference. So dont bash any team because this conference always goes in cycles.  When I played in the IBFC Lakeland was middle of the road and so was CUW.  The only teams fighting for the conference title every year was Mac and Aurora. Check the history. Who has more playoff appearances?  Aurora is first and then Mac. So all of you young bucks bashing Mac and not giving Aurora respect, check your IBFC hisotry and see who dominated when you were poppin zits in high school.  Lakeland and Cuw only enjoyed conference success the last three years.  Wow big deal!!!!!
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: maddog8 on May 08, 2006, 01:52:24 am
Over Coming my Fears, today the Dog turns 48 and to over come my scared of hieghts, I am going to fly, yes fly a twin engine Cesna plane then here is the crazy part I will sky dive at 12,000 feet. I must be getting crazy in my old age, at any rate if you never hear from me again then you can assume what happen!, I am sure you will hear from the Dog tomorrow. I will share my experience. Everyone keep working hard the season is right around the corner. Hope you all have a sky high day! I know I will.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Genius on May 08, 2006, 12:50:47 pm
IBFC_Alum

it is a big deal to have success, even if it is only 3 years. I'm pretty sure if Mac or AU had more success these last 3 years you wouldn't refer to that success with sarcasm.

History lesson. Since 1999 (last 7 years) Mac won the conference twice. the other 5 years the most wins that have in a single season is 4 (That is not what i consider dominance.

Aurora- 2 conference titles a tie. they have also took 2nd place a couple times. I don't personally consider that dominance but they have definitely been the most consistent team for awhile.

Since 99 here where each team stacks up with wins.
AU-41
CUW- 38
LC-33
Mac-30
BC-23
GC-17
EU-11
CURF-3

I wouldn't consider any team dominating the league. May you disagree.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: IBFC_Alum on May 08, 2006, 03:00:36 pm
Genius.

That is still one more conference crown than anybody else has (besides AU).  Thats two playoff trips.  2001 lost in the last 14 seconds on a touchdown pass.  2002 got beat bad by Wabash.  Mac has come closer than any other team to winning a playoff game. 

Once again it does not matter how many conference wins you have if those wins do not take you to the playoffs. 

Great job on beating Curf and Eureka every year!!!
Let me know when you have two crowns!!!!
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Genius on May 08, 2006, 05:45:37 pm
IBFC alum...
So does that mean you have backed off of your dominace statement? since now you are saying they still have 1 more conference title than anyone else.

you should be proud about what Mac did when i was in junior high. it is too bad that the current program can't live in the past with you. It looked like mac had a good couple years with the 2 playoff bids. Considering their history since then, it looks like they lucked out with a great recruiting class. But their norm is middle of the pack. And their more recent history is getting blown out by the top of the conference.

Enough of the past, right now mac has some good skill guys (if they retained them). But that Oline was poor. The defense scheme was suspect. i only see them beating eureka and curf next year.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: IBFC_Alum on May 09, 2006, 08:25:54 am
Genius,
I am not backing off my dominance statement, just stating that no matter what stats you throw up here to try and prove your point, your team does not have more IBFC crowns than Mac. So your team must be middle of the road as well.  Regardless if those titles occured before your nutz dropped or not.
I only bring up the past so that you understand the history of the conference.  Thats all.  To say Mac will only beat CURF and Eureka shows that you must not have made your teams travel list at all last year to watch any of these schools in the conference play. Now I know where your anger is coming from. I am sure you had a good JV team though? Maybe this year your name will make that list.  Lets just let the season play it self out.  Obviously this is not Division I where we do not have a good Idea of who is coming back to who's team and who got recruited until August rolls around. Just make sure you stay posting when you have to eat your words. And I'll make sure that I'll do the same.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Gomer Pyle on May 09, 2006, 09:38:18 am
 For Mac to have a good season they must come up with an "O" line that can get the job done, not like the last couple of years when their  "O" line was atrocious. Just look at their (YPP) for the last couple of seasons and that stat really stands out.
  Oops, looks like you can`t do that cause Mac`s football site is/has been under "re-design" for almost a year.  I wonder how you can start a job, not finish in a timely manner and still get paid?
  Mac will have a senior QB and the best RB in the conference ( to bad Lakeland) this season but if they don`t get any help up front, Mac will be no better than a middle of the road team, IMO.
  As i mentioned Lakeland above i feel compelled to
   remind them they........lost to Augie!
   Put away the would-a, could-a, should-a theories
   or at the very least seek professional help for your denial. 
   It`s a new season, turn the page, move on.
    Enough already.   
 
 
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Genius on May 09, 2006, 11:15:55 am
IBFC_Alum

You told me to look at the history and i did. You said mac and Au was dominant. i disagree. Having 1 more title than 2 other teams in the conferene is not dominance in any sport, on any continent. 2 titles and then your next highest finish is 4th in the conference over a 7 year span is not dominance, it isn't even consistency. if you want us to understand history make sure you can interpret that history without such an obvious blinding bias.

Secondly, don't try to deflect the attention by bringing up my playing career. That is not the subject. the subject began with predictions. When writing you want to stay focused on the subject at hand. you should have learned that in college writing at mac.

By the way...who did Mac beat in the conference last year (Eureka and CURF). I apologize if you were offended by my opinion that they will repeat that same record this year. CUW is my favorite, Lakeland (lost playmakers on O and D), AU (lost dbs/dl but good qb) and GC (bunch of returners). SO i think they will fight for second. I think Bene has a great coach and they are on the rise while mac's defensive coaching is suspect. So i pick Bene to beat mac again. mac should pound eureka and curf.

IBFC_ALum, these are my observations of each program. it has nothing to do with anger just an opinion.

Gome Pyle, i believe both backs for Cuw are better than Ereg. he is good but i 'd rather face him then the other 2.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: IBFC_Alum on May 09, 2006, 02:25:53 pm
So you don't deny the fact that you never made your teams travel list.!!!!! J/K

If you say that I am bias then you definetly are too. Especially if you think that both backs from CUW are better than Ereg. 

To say my predictions about Mac are bias is incorrect because I did not even pick them to win the conference.  I picked them to finnish at the top.  I have information about some recruits that are heading up to Mac. I know from that information that they will make Mac a much better team. Trust me!!!  So that is what I base my facts on. 

Here's a hint:  These recruits were all-state in a state that produces nothing but Division I prospects. Now that is good Information to base my predictions on.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: footballisfun on May 09, 2006, 02:32:37 pm
IBFC_Alum

You told me to look at the history and i did. You said mac and Au was dominant. i disagree. Having 1 more title than 2 other teams in the conferene is not dominance in any sport, on any continent. 2 titles and then your next highest finish is 4th in the conference over a 7 year span is not dominance, it isn't even consistency. if you want us to understand history make sure you can interpret that history without such an obvious blinding bias.

Secondly, don't try to deflect the attention by bringing up my playing career. That is not the subject. the subject began with predictions. When writing you want to stay focused on the subject at hand. you should have learned that in college writing at mac.

By the way...who did Mac beat in the conference last year (Eureka and CURF). I apologize if you were offended by my opinion that they will repeat that same record this year. CUW is my favorite, Lakeland (lost playmakers on O and D), AU (lost dbs/dl but good qb) and GC (bunch of returners). SO i think they will fight for second. I think Bene has a great coach and they are on the rise while mac's defensive coaching is suspect. So i pick Bene to beat mac again. mac should pound eureka and curf.

IBFC_ALum, these are my observations of each program. it has nothing to do with anger just an opinion.

Gome Pyle, i believe both backs for Cuw are better than Ereg. he is good but i 'd rather face him then the other 2.

Didnt AU also lose 1 or 2 linebackers and some WR as well as some O-lineman
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Genius on May 10, 2006, 10:28:24 am
RBs that have the ability to break long runs and make people miss strike more fear in me than backs who are simply downhill runners (physical style).

I believe the 2backs at CUW run hard but they are also elusive. I would not say the same about Ereg. he runs very hard but he isn't that elusive. He'll run you over but he'll fall and get a yard extra. The 2 CUW backs will make u miss and keep running, plus they are hard runners. they aren't as physical that Ereg but physical enough.

It is also very difficult for me to separate the RBs from the olines. When you also add the oline in the mix I would rather face Ereg then the cuw backs. Who cares who the best back is if the oline doesn't allow him to show his skills. It doesn't mean anything in reality. The RB from Eureka the last couple years was really good. But his oline was so crappy he got no recognition.

So I will say it again "They are all good backs but i would rather face Ereg then the other 2." THAT IS REALITY IN ACTION, NOT BIAS!!!

Inside info on Mac... that is great that they got some good players coming in. Do they play o or dline? They got enough skill guys they need big uglies.

Did you also get the inside info on Mac that they are struggling with retention. It is hard to get a lot better when you lose have of your team and have to replace them. Ask your sources about that...

On a separate note...anybody else got All-staters coming in from the state that produces nothing but D1 prospects?
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: IBFC_Alum on May 10, 2006, 11:23:31 am
Genius,

I guess if you like the misdirection style of football then the CUW guys would be great choice. I personally like the running backs that grind it out. To me they wear down a team more and that is more important than the occaisonal long run you might get from a elusive RB. Its all about the style of the game that you like. Besides Ereg has enough speed to get the job done.  He is not the fastest RB in the conference but like you said "fast enough" to get the job done. So I will say "I would rather face the scat backs from CUW than Ereg."

As for your comments on retention, All schools in this conference deal with retention issues.  Kids transfer in and out.  As well as flunk out in "ALL" schools.
Like I said in an earlier post, Mac has continually raised their acdemic bar for the past 3 to 4 years. If kids do not make the grades they have to go somewhere else. That is a good thing for Mac.  So if it means they loose some players then they loose some players. 
You make it sound as if Mac is the only school having these problems.  You remember 2-time Conference Player of The Year Cedric Simmons from CUW,  why didn't he finnish his senior year?  The list can go on and on. (especially at CUW)  That is just an example.  This happens to every team, every year.
By the way, the recruits are skill positions and Linemen.  And its not sources telling me this info, its myself and the group of coaches we worked with to get these kids to Mac. So it is not hear-say.   
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Reeno10 on May 11, 2006, 11:18:29 am
Genius, how could you say that you would like to have two Mediocre running backs on a good team, with a good O-line than a hard runner that has ALREADY PROVEN HIMSELF with a o.k offensive line. Lets get to the COLD HARD facts..........CUW backs to Ereg....Offensive Back of the year..Ereg **no oline too that year..well i will say not the offensive line CUW has.....2 year 1st team all conference running back..Ereg.....and most likely will be three years next year..... finished 12th in the country in rushing in 2004-2005 and 18th in the country in 2005-2006, that shows consistantsy, was any of the returning backs for CUW that you were talking about close to that?...i dont think so...also look at the conference stats in the last 2 years i beleive you will see Ereg in the top 2 in every rushing category!! So how can you Not be BIAS when the stats are here in black and white!! Pete is one of the hardest runners i have ever been around and seen and he produces year in and year out with O.K offensive line!! do me a favor look at all the 1st and 2nd team all conference offensive lineman that CUW has had in the last two years and look at Macs!! Look above genius at the things that Ereg did with what he had to work with, and tell me that you would choose two, like i said, MEDIOCRE backs, with a GREAT offensive line than a back with no offensive line and still did what he did! Its all there BLACK AND WHITE!!! look it up for yourself.....Put Ereg with that offensive line that CUW has and see what he does! Its ok i am not making up excuses because i am positive that he will be first team all conference again this year!! that will be his third year in a row too!! Tell me Genius why would you choose those two backs becasue really man they HAVE NOT PROVEN SH*T YET to me!! FACTS SPEAK FOR THEMSELVES, LOOK IT UP GENIUS! I personally dont think anyone wants to see Mac back on top because they play hard nose football game in and game out whatever the score may be!! but i agree with the issue about oline and dline because everything else is there!! Good luck to everyone else in the conference...i just couldnt see a great back being DISRESPECTED like that way he has been in this room! Ereg IS THE BEST RETURNING BACK IN THE CONFERENCE, BELIEVE THAT, i dont want to hear the haters no more..lts all there black and white look it up no one compares!

GO MAC
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: NCAA Football on May 11, 2006, 08:56:39 pm
I have to agree with you Reeno 10.  Ereg has done it each year with a mediocre oline.  He has been in the top of the conference, so I would take Ereg over the two CUW backs anyday.  He can wear defenses down with his hard nose running style, which can also control the pace of the game.  It will be interesting to see what happens next year.     
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: maddog8 on May 12, 2006, 01:58:44 am
Without question, Ereg is the best in the conference this yr, Aarron Gillesppee sorry if it's wrong from CUW s second and then comes Erdman from Lakeland. But if the Dog could only pick one of these 3 then the winner would be EREG hands down. Damn Gomer what do you think of that. I also will say that Mac will be back this yr. Coach Tesfa will have one of the top Defensive teams in the conference. The players and talent is there question only being "WILL THEY LISTEN TO THEIR COACHES AND PLAY WITH ATTITUDE AND PRIDE" That's all that I see lacking. The battle will still come down to Lakeland and CUW for Crown.

Maddog calls it like the Dog see's it!
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: IBFC_Alum on May 12, 2006, 08:51:57 am
Genius,

I guess i am not the only one who feels that way.  Ereg is the best RB,  Mac will be much inproved and the conference will return to a 4-way battle for the top spot (Mac,CUW,Lakeland and AU). Can't wait for the season to begin.  Highlanders keep working hard.  Get back to the top of the conference!!!!!
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: FalconsFootball on May 12, 2006, 11:47:35 am
I agree that Ereg is good but I beleive it was the CUW defense that wore him down the last couple years. As for picking one I'll take all three Thunder and Lightning and Lightning. 
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: IBFC_Alum on May 12, 2006, 11:53:49 am
I agree that Ereg is good but I beleive it was the CUW defense that wore him down the last couple years. As for picking one I'll take all three Thunder and Lightning and Lightning.

well he can't block and run for himself at the same time.  When he does make contact with defenders they usually feel it more than he does.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Gomer Pyle on May 13, 2006, 12:23:00 pm
 Maddog:
  You said," Gomer, what do you think of that?"
     To that i say, finally you got something correct!
     ;D
    By the way, happy birthday.
     
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: maddog8 on May 15, 2006, 12:32:46 am
Thanks Gomer :o
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: IBFC_Alum on May 15, 2006, 02:02:29 pm
I have to agree with you Reeno 10. Ereg has done it each year with a mediocre oline. He has been in the top of the conference, so I would take Ereg over the two CUW backs anyday. He can wear defenses down with his hard nose running style, which can also control the pace of the game. It will be interesting to see what happens next year.

What will happen next year is simple.  Mac will return to the top of the conference (where they belong) and Ereg will have another great year.  Schmidtke will return to his old form and Martin will catch over 60 balls.  Year two of the 3-4 defense will show tremendous improvement and Pirolo will dominate and have a good chance of becoming an All-American.  Mac has a great coaching staff and they laid the foundation for the future last year.  You will see a much improved Highlander team in 2006!!!!!!!!!
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: sotha sil on May 15, 2006, 02:38:19 pm
All this mac talk reminds me of the past few years of mac talk.  A lot of hype and then a fall out during the season.  But, maybe this year will be different.

But, when Aaron Gillespie leads the conference in rushing and makes a push at player of the year, I am pretty sure it will be the o-line did it for him.  Ereg's good but I never hear our D complain about playing him.  I love hearing the whole put Ereg on CUW and let him play with that o-line.  We would love another solid back up for A.G so come on over.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: IBFC_Alum on May 15, 2006, 03:01:16 pm
All this mac talk reminds me of the past few years of mac talk. A lot of hype and then a fall out during the season. But, maybe this year will be different.

But, when Aaron Gillespie leads the conference in rushing and makes a push at player of the year, I am pretty sure it will be the o-line did it for him. Ereg's good but I never hear our D complain about playing him. I love hearing the whole put Ereg on CUW and let him play with that o-line. We would love another solid back up for A.G so come on over.

I am glad you have faith in A.G. but if Ereg played for CUW, A.G. would be looking to transfer to CURF so he could get some carries!!  Besides A.G. is used to backing up a  great running back (Mills) so the transition of Ereg to CUW would go smooth.  A.G. would know his role!!  Don'y worry about the Highlanders they will be fine.  I hope everyone doubts them this year.  Go MAC!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Genius on May 15, 2006, 06:28:04 pm
Ereg -2nd leading rusher in the conference. He had  55 more carries than #1 Mills and 99 more than #3 Mauri. The only RB in the top 10 who didn't have a better yard per carry avg than Ereg was from CURF.
Just because you have the most yards doesn't mean you are the best. You must look deeper.

My analysis:
Ereg-great downhill runner. Tries to run too many people over. he doens't make defenders have to arm tackle him because he is tight in the hips. He does finish his runs...always fall forward.Good RB..not great. Backup RB #3 may be a better runner. More elusive and strong. he doesn't get carries but he stands out when he runs the ball.

Gillespie- shifty from side to side. You don't get clean shots on him. Forces defenders to arm tackle him and he is breaks the arm tackles. Not a power back but good balance. Enought speed to finish the run.

Erdman- Not even worth talking about. he wasn't even the guy on his team in the 4th qtr when the game was on the line. Average back good oline. This year will tell alot. That is enought said.

Reeno10- Just because i don't think Ereg is the best back doesn't mean i am disrespecting him. He is good just not the best.
Why is it in the sports world if some one doesn't consider you to be as good as you think you are then it must be disrespect? More humilty in the sports world and less ego/pride would help.

IBFC-Alum...who cares if someone else agrees with you. Majority numbers doesn't mean you are correct. Also, who cares if defenders feel it when tackling Ereg. What matters is breaking tackles not tripping over someone you tried to run over.

Bottomline...i suspect Ereg will get a bunch of carries and be at the top again of the league rushing. That isn't my criteria of who the best back in the league is though. If had my choice of who i would least like to play against...i'd say Gillespie. He is more dangerous in his scheme then Ereg is in his scheme.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: FalconsFootball on May 16, 2006, 12:11:40 pm
Well put.  Good research also.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: footballisfun on May 16, 2006, 09:27:19 pm
So, what about TE, FB and SS.  Since everyone likes talking about O-line and LB, arent TE and FB just glorified O-lineman and SS fast linebackers.  So lets hear it, who is going to be good at those positions this year?
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: IBFC_Alum on May 17, 2006, 12:31:07 pm
Genius,

If majority numbers does not make me correct (like you siad) and Ereg being the leading returning rusher does not make me correct  what makes you correct on picking Gillespie? You have to understand Ereg is not a homerun type of back (you already said that) so of course he is not leading in YPG.

So you pick Gillespie based on the facts that  he is "shifty", was second string and has "enough speed to finnish the run".  Nice credentials!!! I think Ereg's credentials are better. But we are just beating a dead horse here. I have no problem with someone disagreeing with me,  I just don't see what you are basing your decision off of. All I want to know is WHAT IS YOUR CRITERIA? 

I agree with you on the statement that you never disrespected Ereg, its just constructive crticism from your point of view. Erdman I refuse to even comment on.  The back-up RB from Mac is a good one but his time will come.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Genius on May 17, 2006, 01:29:10 pm
IBFC_alum

RB criteria from a defensive perspective... who would i least like to face. The 2 big things i look at  is vision and break tackle ability. Then i look at their speed.
It doesn't seem like many established RBs are back this year so in terms of who has the best combo of vision, break tackle ability and speed i'd choose gillespie.

footballisfun,
TE, FB,SS i can't think of anyone who stands out who is a returner. all the notable TEs last year were seniors. No FB stood out to me. Maybe Bene's but he's gone. Throw out some names/#s and maybe i'd have an opinion on them.

I'd be interested in your opinions on Top offensive and defensive schemes in the conference... Offensive- CUW (although they don't pass enough) Defensive- GC or Lakeland
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Reeno10 on May 17, 2006, 03:22:22 pm
I am not going to comment anymore on whatever Genius is talking about bc everyone has opnions and thats ok bc facts speak for themselves but that is not what i want to talk about...obviously we got some pro CUW posters here and thats ok too you got to rep your squad some times DUDE!!! SO heres what i got to say Mac is too deep right now in the offenseive skill positions....Mac will have almost all there skilled positions be 1st or 2nd team all conference players coiming to the table...and as far as a defense is concerned....i heard that 4 teams conference and non conference games  rushed for over hundred yards rushing againset a 3-4 defense that mac has..4 thats it...all mac has to do is get the offense to roll and this team will be on top but for someone to say lakelands defense is going to be good again next year...that is al little far fetched considering i would think it would be a rebuilding year for that defense loosing two all american players....i dont know just my opinon....everyone will route for there teams but i want everyone to know its been 3 years come up to four years that mac has got a ring and i am telling you with the talent that have offensively especailly defensivley this team is long pat DUE!!!I am not saying anythign about any other team bc football is footballl!!!

GO MAC

p.s- Larry you better be lifting kid because you got a X on your chest this year...i got my rings wheres yours!!!
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: footballisfun on May 17, 2006, 04:17:15 pm
Well lets see who is coming back:
 AU:
   FB: Nick Paxson #26 Sr.
   SS: Nick Gniedziejko #18 JR. (Not sure if he is there SS or not but he was a Safty for them)

 BU:
   SS: Anthony Borsellino #1 Sr.

 CURF:
   FB: #47
   SS: #22
   TE: #13

 CUW:
   TE: Trent Duckett # 15 So. (not sure if he was their starter or not)
 
 Eureka:
   Couldnt find anything on them

 GC:
   SS: Seth England #20 Jr.
   TE: Logan Patton #80 So.

 LC:
  TE: Martin Ringiesen #88 Sr

 Mac:
  FB: Greig Spuhler #44 Jr.
  SS: Chris Flaggs #2 Jr.

Those are who are returning from each team, if I am wrong someone please tell me.  The SS from AU isnt bad but you were right, there really arent very big names ruturning to those positions.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: maddog8 on May 18, 2006, 03:00:46 am
Footballsfun, never herd of this TE from Lakeland and I have been following Lakeland for 4 yrs now. As for not mentioning Erdman from Lakeland as a top runner well time will tell. Lakelands "D" is not rebuilding in fact I feel they have even more speed at LB and D-Line than last years team. Take it to the bank watch out for Bobby Busha (Wagner). Numbers wise CUW has the best D talent with Langston and Allen. I have to say that Lakeland is not far behind as well as MAC, who has the potential to take the top over, remember what I said "WILL THEY LISTEN TO THEIR COACHES and alsoWILL THEY PLAY WITH ATTITUDE AND CLEAN. leave the fighting for the thugs on the street. If Mac can do this then they have a chance to win the conference, Otherwise I have to say its between Lakeland and CUW. This year is going to be fun.

For those interested in how Van Doo Loo and Maiuri are doing in Europe, Well Van Doo Loo is the leading tackler in the south division and Maiuri is the leading Intersceptor in the north Division. His adjustment to Defense from being a QB all his life has been very difficult at the least and alot of studyng at best. He has 3 INT's in 4 games, 1 returned 90 yrds for a TD, Last weeks INT with 1.18 sec left as the other team was driving for another score, was caught in the back of the endzone and returned 60 yrs allowing his team the Blue Devils to drive the remaining 40 yrds to score the winning TD with 3 sec left on the clock 20-19 to stay undefeated in the north division. Hopefully both the Ryan will meet ing the Europe Bowl and play each other. Representing the IBFC very well.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: IBFC_Alum on May 18, 2006, 10:11:03 am
Genius,

If vision and breaking tackles are your criteria, then that sounds a lot like Ereg to me.

I also think that you will be very impressed with what Mac does defensively this year.  They have a couple of very impressive defensive players coming in this year that should really help them out.  On the offensive side of the ball,I think Mac will throw the ball a lot more this year as well as grind it out with Ereg. Mac has a great weapon in Martin and another reciever new to the mix this year that really open the field up for Martin.  The O-Line will be much improved.

My picks
Offensive scheme - CUW

Defensive - Mac
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Reeno10 on May 18, 2006, 11:27:31 am
Maddog....I would have to say that, that was very well put......only time will tell and yes i believe that Mac and Greenville will have the best Defenses in the conference because they have two of teh best linebackers int he conference and no one can take that from those teams....Terry Martin will be good next year and i like i said before mac will have all of there skill postions on offense be ethier 1st or second team all conference players, its what maddog said will they listen to there coach?? and will they put there thug mentality aside?? but macs defense will be there
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: NCAA Football on May 18, 2006, 09:20:50 pm
IBFC_alum

RB criteria from a defensive perspective... who would i least like to face. The 2 big things i look at  is vision and break tackle ability. Then i look at their speed.
It doesn't seem like many established RBs are back this year so in terms of who has the best combo of vision, break tackle ability and speed i'd choose gillespie.

footballisfun,
TE, FB,SS i can't think of anyone who stands out who is a returner. all the notable TEs last year were seniors. No FB stood out to me. Maybe Bene's but he's gone. Throw out some names/#s and maybe i'd have an opinion on them.

I'd be interested in your opinions on Top offensive and defensive schemes in the conference... Offensive- CUW (although they don't pass enough) Defensive- GC or Lakeland


Genius,
 
Ereg is a back that meets all of your criteria.  He is also an established running back that has accomplished a heck of a lot in the IBFC.  I don't understand how you can pick someone that wasn;t even a starter last lear over Ereg.  Ereg may be a tough runner, but he also has the ability to break tackles.  Also, don't let Ereg's speed fool you, he is faster than you think he is. 

As for best offensive scheme, Im not real sure yet, but i really can't see CUW as having the best scheme.  they don't even throw the ball that often. 

As for the best defensive scheme, Greenville still has that really good linebacker.  i think teams are going to have to look out for Lakelands and MacMurrays Defense.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: IBFC_Alum on May 19, 2006, 08:41:59 am
NCAA Football,

CUW has a very effective scheme even though they do not throw the ball that often.  But if they want to be a factor when the playoffs roll around, they will have to do both.  If they run into a team that can shut down the run game, they have to be able to put the ball in the air.  Still a greta scheme for their talent.
Lakeland has a lot of holes to fill but they have a great head coach who knows how to win. They play good defense and are always physically tough.  Lakeland will be tough to beat home and away.
Greenville had a great year but I am not sold on them yet. If they could string two good years in a row together, they may be on to something. They have a great LB who orchestrates their defense.
Aurora I thought underachieved last year.  I think they will be a much improved ball club this year.  They always are tough to beat. Still a team adapting to new coaching styles.

This year several teams have the chance to win it.  In my mind their is no clear cut favorite.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Genius on May 19, 2006, 09:27:24 am
Ereg does meet all of my criteria. Any starting back in the conference should be able to have vision, break tackles and have some speed. It isn't a matter of does he possess all 3 but is he the best at all 3. I don't think so but he's is a good RB in the conference. A 4.3 yard per carry avg is bad in college football. NFL that is a good avg. college that is suspect! We all have different opinions so i will let whoever responses have the last word on the RB issue.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: NCAA Football on May 19, 2006, 12:56:20 pm
IBFC_Alum,

I agree that the CUW scheme is effective.  I just don't think it is the best.  I agree with you, that when the playoffs come around, they are going to have to throw the ball against the better teams, which is why they should throw it more in the season.  Lakeland may have some holes to fill, but they will still be in the run for the top spot.  Greenville still may be suspect, but I would still keep my eye on them, they can surprise some people this year.  And as for Mac, they just have to listen to the staff and play tough.  If they do that, they can be just as good as anyone.  Anyway, all I am trying to say is in my mind, there is no favorite yet.  We are just going to have to wait till the season begins and watch how things play out.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Genius on May 20, 2006, 09:21:56 am
CUW is a great offensive scheme. The suspect that most defenses in the conference spend more time preparing for what they do than anyone else. Now...if your defense is better than their offense it doesn't matter what scheme you have.

it keep reading if mac players will listen to the coaches they have a chance. FYI... if players don't listen to the coaches then it is the coaches fault. That is a coach job, motivate players to follow and listen to you. If they don't listen it is because they don't trust that you know what you are doing or you recruited the wrong type of people (kids that don't listen to anyone). Either way it is the coach's responsibility.

question...how many other starters on d does Mac have other than Pirrollo. i read 3 post about their d. who else do they have? anybody else on 1st or 2nd team all conference returning? 1 player, no matter how good doesn't make a defense.

Ask Ray Lewis and his complaining this off season.

Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: footballisfun on May 20, 2006, 01:54:27 pm
They didnt make 1st or 2nd team but a OLB named Jordan Missy made it as a freshman and a DT made it named Neal White who will be a Sr. this year.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: footballisfun on May 21, 2006, 11:10:22 am
Correction Jordan did make 2nd team and a LB named Scotty Gregory made 2nd team as well.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Genius on May 21, 2006, 09:39:54 pm
Sounds like Mac may have the best LB corps coming back this season. With one 1st teamer and two 2nd teams. If those 3 guys are that good i would have expected them to give up a few less points than over 30 per game.

Anybody else got a good or better LB corps than mac?
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: footballisfun on May 21, 2006, 11:59:41 pm
BU returns all of its starting LB, 1 of them was 2nd team.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Reeno10 on May 22, 2006, 11:09:31 am
just one thing....mac only let up 4 teams over one hundred yards rushing and one of those teams barely made it in the late fourth quarter so i would have to say that speaks volumes about the linebacking core at mac being that it was there first year in that scheme....this year will be the second year with all of there linebackers returning.....to what i heard it was the secondary leting those points up... but thats not the point macs linebackers are going to be straight your forgeting that my boy dominated the conference last year in tackles and he has a supporting cast now soo that only seems to me that it might be a repeat preformance of last season (YOU BETTER BE LIFTING, BRUCE BRO HAHA)
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Da One on May 22, 2006, 11:50:41 am
Mac's D was in the middle of the pack last year.  On the IBC page it shows that thru 9 games mac was giving up 358 yds a game.  170 a game rushing.  If they only allowed 4 teams over 100 and 1 barely, then those 3  other teams must have ran for 250.  They also gave up 5.2 yds a play.  That will need to improve for them to compete for the title. 
Reeno you say that the DB's were giving up the TD's.  Mac gave up 38 TD's and only 15 of them came through the air.  I'm not that good with math, but I think that is less than half.  Mac's great individual stats mean nothing, a takes a team to win a championship.  If the role players on the team can improve, they have the stars to compete.   
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Reeno10 on May 22, 2006, 12:58:50 pm
Well, first off we were talking about linebacking cores in the conference first off, second off i was going off what i heard..i wasnt there last season..and i am not going to be indepth with this because of certain situations such as red zone scoring etc. and how does a team get into the red zone?? long passes maybe!! For what i heard...Benedictine, CUW, Wooster, and Lakeland (Barely) all went over one hundred yards!! and i beleive BU and CUW were the only teams that had the most success in doing so...Stay on topic Da One, we are talk about linebacking cores, i am just trying to state that mac has the best linebacking cores in the conference hands down! but who ever your posting for has to be better soo there is no point into arguing just stating my OPINION! Remember last year was the first year with a new scheme and the linebackers for mac did do a decent job...thats all i am saying so who are you trying to prove wrong here or should i say what team are you trying to hype right now??
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Da One on May 22, 2006, 02:49:08 pm
Reeno,
For starters, no one is arguing with you.  Mac may have the best LB's in the IBC. My bad for getting off topic.  All the Mac supporters are talking about the great numbers that their top players put up.  The only number that matters is number of wins.  As I said, Mac has three of the top players in the league at their respective positions.  However, weather or not they have the role players to compete for a title is debatable.  I'm definately not trying to hype any team.  My team left the IBC last year when Coach Scott retired from AU with 4 titles in 7 years. 
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: maddog8 on May 22, 2006, 03:40:11 pm
Reeno10, where do you get your facts, Maiuri had over 150yrd rushing and over 150 passing ins just 3 quarters against Mac so I find it hard for you to say LAKELAND barely got over 100, unless ONE individual at 150+ is barely, that's not countng the other 2 good running backs they have. When an O-Line like Lakelands is blowing you out of the water ONE LB is not enough. Believe me I want Mac to do good this year for I am friends with your 2 Saginaw Coaches. I want them to be successful. Honestly don't write unless you have factual info.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: maddog8 on May 22, 2006, 03:50:34 pm
In addition I will say that Lakeland will be right up there with Mac for the top LB core, Never, Never, Never underestimate Bobby Busha, and Mr. Hornes pay attention to this season.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Reeno10 on May 22, 2006, 04:18:36 pm
Point understood maddog....and point understood with DA ONE.....With everything being said over the last couple weeks....what teams, players etc... do will make impacts on next season??
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Genius on May 22, 2006, 04:58:46 pm
Maddog,

Lakeland better have some more dominate dlineman if bobby boushay and the rest of the crew will be as good as they were last year. THe DE was the best player in the conference last year in my opinion. And DT #75 was a very good nose tackle. He probably didn't have a bunch of stats but he was a force inside.

Are there guys who will be close to there level?  If not those lbs may be in trouble.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: maddog8 on May 22, 2006, 05:22:03 pm
Genius, Shane Schrimpp (I know I spelled this wrong) he was first team DL his soph. yr was in a accident the next yr and played last yr but  was second team. they also have all there DB's coming back, not the greatest group last yr but then again they were learning how to play as a unit, more mature n=and physical from last yr. Plus they have my man Tyrece back again. Lakeland will be soilid on D. Wagner will be 1st team All-American LB by time he is a Senior.

Mac has a stud LB and Coach Tesfa will have them hitting harder and more poised then in the past. Saginaw was not ranked # 3/4 the past three season in DII because there D was not prepared. Coach Tesfa can claim ownership for those rankings. He knows talent in fact John DiGorgio one of his Saginaw LB's just signed with the Buffalo Bills.  Could Mac's Stud be NEXT???
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: footballisfun on May 23, 2006, 03:04:40 am
Reeno10, where do you get your facts, Maiuri had over 150yrd rushing and over 150 passing ins just 3 quarters against Mac so I find it hard for you to say LAKELAND barely got over 100, unless ONE individual at 150+ is barely, that's not countng the other 2 good running backs they have. When an O-Line like Lakelands is blowing you out of the water ONE LB is not enough. Believe me I want Mac to do good this year for I am friends with your 2 Saginaw Coaches. I want them to be successful. Honestly don't write unless you have factual info.

http://www.lakeland.edu/athletics/football/stats05/1008lcmc.htm

well thats says that ryan only had 67 yards rushing against mac.  LC still had 190 rushing yards total and your son did throw for 179 yard but that says he didnt rush for over 150
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: footballisfun on May 23, 2006, 03:07:23 am
Ryan did also have to only rushing TD that day (he scored all the TD that day execpt for an INT and a blocked punt)
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: maddog8 on May 23, 2006, 04:56:18 am
Footballsfun, you are correct I was looking at 04's stats, where he rushed for over 100 and threw for over 100 and scored 4 TD'd two rushing and two passing. Never the less if it was not for his O-Line he would be like Ereg, great player behind average line. My opinion, and opinion's are like azzholes, we all have one. The O-line and LB's make the game what it is!!!!!!!!! Lakelands O-Line will be HUGH and TOUGH, QB has best arm I have seen in conference play, very  accurate and good touch with 2 outstanding receivers in White and Royal. There LB"S have size speed and plenty of HURT to dish out. Mac"s LB"S are very Strong, fast and too have plenty of HURT to dish out, ave QB (who has potential to be a great one) unless he play's with HEART. question can and will there O-line show up for THE BEST RUNNING BACK IN THE CONFERENCE EREG!!!!!!! CUW will NO DOUBT have the most DOMINATE D-LINE IN THE CONFERENCE, AVE. LB'S, Excellent runner in Gilleppsee ( lord I suck at spelling names) good O-line, questionable QB because they have 2 to choose from.  Greenville will be back I don't be leave they were a fluk, excellant Coaching staff and one of the best if not the best LB in the business, lots of holes to fill both on O and D. Schopp will be one of the top DB's in the conference. Sorry Aurora, but Hornang can't do it all by himself, ave line, ave running backs and a few good receivers, lots of holes on D to fill (2 main one's Perry and Davison at DB's)
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Reeno10 on May 23, 2006, 10:27:30 am
Thanks footballisfun....i guess what i heard was somewhat accurate.....and maddog you are right bout ryan bc what i heard he did it all that day!! I think it will be close next year for linebacker of the year but i am sure my boy from lake mary florida will pull it out!!
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: maddog8 on May 23, 2006, 12:19:43 pm
Reeno10, he should be he was I believe second team all-american DIII on Don Hansens Football Gazzette north region. Plus this would give Mac much deserved credit. Coach Tesfa will make it happen
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: ibfc on May 23, 2006, 11:48:23 pm
You guys say teams are going to smack Eureka, Bene, and CURF and then you say the wrong players are returning from certain schools.  First of all this is one of the weakest conferences in the nation anyone can win at anytime.  Lakeland lost a lot of O and D playmakers but look to fill in the holes and WILL NOT WIN IT ALL they can't do it without the arm and this new guy is nothing, and come one their Oline isn't going to be that great...Dline took huge hits and so did the LB and DB's...CUW can have a great Dline all they want how are they going to score...with lame misdirection plays that everyone has seen a million times not to mention the fact that most teams are going to a 3-4 scheme with flowing LBS all it takes is a little dicipline to stop CUW.  CUW will start 0-4 and won't rebound,Not to mention the fact that they have 2 qbs with terrible arms.  So that takes us to AU....well they have a great QB with no one to throw the ball to and one of the weakest Olines in the conference.  Not to mention the task of replacing key players on D this team slipped last year and will fall to the lower half of the IBC.  OH no the superpowers of the IBC are all knocked out.  Well, let's talk about Greenville, this is a team returning several key players this was a very competitive team last year playing close games with CUW and Lake look for Greenville to compete for the IBC championship..as for the supposive pushovers of the Conference Benne looks to improve on some great things that they did last year...but what are they bringing back some undersized LBS and a soft oline and dline come on this will be the 2nd worst team in the conference next to Eureka who returns nothing and is building on nothing....it's hard to recruit to a school that quits games.  I'm hoping this is a bold statement but CURF is going to be the darkhorse of this conference in 2006.  If you look at their schedule they have the opportunity to get on a great roll the first half of the season...playing blackburn, Eureka, benne, U of Chicago, Rose-Hulman...etc.  with their first big game coming against an over hyped Mac team.  With a new coach and scheme some new recruits and a few wins look for CURF to roll, not to mention the fact that they return everyone from O minus 3 players, and return their D minus 3 players. You can Talk about the Lakelands and CUW, I think with all the holes and question marks anyone can win this....anyways they'll be eliminated in the first round of the playoffs.....oh and MAC is terrible...maybe they can be good if they learn some discipline...doubt it though.... GREENVILLE!!!!
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: footballisfun on May 24, 2006, 01:00:16 am
Those are all very bold statements and are sure to make a lot of people mad.  As for Greenville, they made huge strides in their play last year but you have to remember that people rated them as huge underdogs and they used that to their advantage.  Next year though people will be expecting that from them and they wont supprise a lot of teams.  On top of that they lose a lot of good players on O. 
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Reeno10 on May 24, 2006, 01:59:22 am
Who is this IBFC guy rooting for this season..........seems to be a HUGE HATTER and jealous bc no one seems to talk about his squad!!! Who are you rooting for IBFC??? I would love to know since this team that you are rooting for is that much better than all the basically every team in the conference!! If you are a "Hater," than your comments are irrealvant bc personally talk is cheap and the sh*t that your talking right now is funny bro!! I hope your not talking about greenville neither bc they are not much better than any team in the conference!!! Thats your opinion and thats cool but really it makes me laugh, its good to have a joke in the room.... everything you say after that post is just humor....keep it up BRO, its interesting to see your jealousy because no one is reconizing your team thats kid stuff and if you are just a hater that will be the topping on the cake!! Jealousy is a B*TCH, if you are for a school dont talk about it....BE ABOUT IT!!
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Da One on May 24, 2006, 09:55:26 am
IBFC,
Why all the hate?  Yes CURF returns alot of starters, but they only won, oh wait, NO games last year.  I think Coach Pries will shake things up a bit, but to call them a contender is crazy!!  You would think with the great location (practically in the city), nice field, and new coach, they should be able to turn things around.  Most people forget one factor, CURF is a Missouri Sinod Lutheran school.  This is not a knock on the Missouri Sinod, but they tend to be more strick than say an ELCA (Augie) school.  Which leads to a strick campus, tough team rules, and religous expectations for the players.  Add that to the fact that they haven't won in a long time.  All that makes it very tough to recruit.  I hope Coach Pries is able to get it going because that only helps the conference.  IBCF, you have to walk before you can run and CURF has be a quadrapilegic for about 20 years. 
I think there will be some surprises this year, but nothing crazy!!!
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Genius on May 24, 2006, 11:21:26 am
In the last 3 years how many times have CUW been held to last than 21 pts in the conference?  Not very often. For all the haters of their offense, more teams need to slow them down other than AU and Lakeland. and they need to slow them down more consistently. At that point i'd consider all the people saying their scheme is too simple or they don't pass enough.

GC- if they get a QB they maybe dangerous. Their qb was bad last year and they couldn't do anything offfensively against  most of the teams in the conference. If they don't have a QB people will get off their bandwagon really quick.

Lakeland- if they don't have a QB (dual threat)...stick a fork in them. They won't beat CUW and may be fighting for 3rd place. I can't imagine that they'll be just as good or even better losing most of the oline, best players on defense and the best offensive player in the conference, the QB. Maddog may have a comment on that but you are fooling yourself if you think all that can be replaced with backups. Especailly ones who didn't play last year.

In this conference you better have a QB who makes plays in your system.
Aurora has one. CUW has one.  Everyone else is suspect.

Key point in this statement. A playmaker at QB to fit your offensive system.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Da One on May 24, 2006, 11:44:14 am
In my opinion to win in any conference, you need to be solid on the offensive and defensive lines.  Having a good QB helps, but it is pretty hard to complete a pass from your back.  It is also tough to so from the sidelines, if your D can't get the other teams O off the field.  I played on 3 IBC champ teams and only one year did we have a good QB.  We always had dominant O and D lines.  The wing-t that CUW runs is a primative offense, but it goes to show that schemes are only as good as the players playing in them.  CUW has had good players.  College football is 70% recruiting and 30% coaching.  However, they will need to throw the ball more to compete at the national level.  CUW opens the season with 2 tough opponents.  Simpson and North Central are both solid teams. 
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: NCAA Football on May 24, 2006, 12:51:30 pm
In the last 3 years how many times have CUW been held to last than 21 pts in the conference?  Not very often. For all the haters of their offense, more teams need to slow them down other than AU and Lakeland. and they need to slow them down more consistently. At that point i'd consider all the people saying their scheme is too simple or they don't pass enough.

GC- if they get a QB they maybe dangerous. Their qb was bad last year and they couldn't do anything offfensively against  most of the teams in the conference. If they don't have a QB people will get off their bandwagon really quick.

Lakeland- if they don't have a QB (dual threat)...stick a fork in them. They won't beat CUW and may be fighting for 3rd place. I can't imagine that they'll be just as good or even better losing most of the oline, best players on defense and the best offensive player in the conference, the QB. Maddog may have a comment on that but you are fooling yourself if you think all that can be replaced with backups. Especailly ones who didn't play last year.

In this conference you better have a QB who makes plays in your system.
Aurora has one. CUW has one.  Everyone else is suspect.

Key point in this statement. A playmaker at QB to fit your offensive system.

Genius,

Who is the projected starter at qb for CUW next year.  i thought the starter this past year graduated, and # 17 got into some academic trouble.  this is just a rumor i had heard, is #17 coming back, if not, who is their experienced qb that is going to start? 
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: NCAA Football on May 24, 2006, 01:01:27 pm
You guys say teams are going to smack Eureka, Bene, and CURF and then you say the wrong players are returning from certain schools.  First of all this is one of the weakest conferences in the nation anyone can win at anytime.  Lakeland lost a lot of O and D playmakers but look to fill in the holes and WILL NOT WIN IT ALL they can't do it without the arm and this new guy is nothing, and come one their Oline isn't going to be that great...Dline took huge hits and so did the LB and DB's...CUW can have a great Dline all they want how are they going to score...with lame misdirection plays that everyone has seen a million times not to mention the fact that most teams are going to a 3-4 scheme with flowing LBS all it takes is a little dicipline to stop CUW.  CUW will start 0-4 and won't rebound,Not to mention the fact that they have 2 qbs with terrible arms.  So that takes us to AU....well they have a great QB with no one to throw the ball to and one of the weakest Olines in the conference.  Not to mention the task of replacing key players on D this team slipped last year and will fall to the lower half of the IBC.  OH no the superpowers of the IBC are all knocked out.  Well, let's talk about Greenville, this is a team returning several key players this was a very competitive team last year playing close games with CUW and Lake look for Greenville to compete for the IBC championship..as for the supposive pushovers of the Conference Benne looks to improve on some great things that they did last year...but what are they bringing back some undersized LBS and a soft oline and dline come on this will be the 2nd worst team in the conference next to Eureka who returns nothing and is building on nothing....it's hard to recruit to a school that quits games.  I'm hoping this is a bold statement but CURF is going to be the darkhorse of this conference in 2006.  If you look at their schedule they have the opportunity to get on a great roll the first half of the season...playing blackburn, Eureka, benne, U of Chicago, Rose-Hulman...etc.  with their first big game coming against an over hyped Mac team.  With a new coach and scheme some new recruits and a few wins look for CURF to roll, not to mention the fact that they return everyone from O minus 3 players, and return their D minus 3 players. You can Talk about the Lakelands and CUW, I think with all the holes and question marks anyone can win this....anyways they'll be eliminated in the first round of the playoffs.....oh and MAC is terrible...maybe they can be good if they learn some discipline...doubt it though.... GREENVILLE!!!!

ibfc,

I just want to know a few things.  Number 1, where do you get your information.  Benedictine, Eureka, and CURF have not had the best programs in the past.  We are not talking smack, we are just being logical.  With the programs that these schools have, it is hard to recruit.  A school can't get good players if they can't win ballgames.  Number 2, where do you get your information on these schools like Lakeland, CUW, Greenville, and Mac.  I can assure you that these teams will be ok.  Lakeland, CUW, and Mac will all be competitive this year, and Greenville may surprise some teams.  I think that if anyone on this board is talking smack, it is you.  You need to get your facts straight before you post. 
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: WAGNER40 on May 24, 2006, 03:59:11 pm
Talk is cheap. The teams that put forth the effort these next months will be dominant.  Talent is nothing without effort, determination, and the will to be the better team on that day.  I am bias and I say if you look at Lakeland's work ethic and dedication, you will have no doubt in the fight of our team.  We will be the better team come gametime regardless who tries step up.  Get on our level because we are working harder now more than ever.  We will take our shots but we will come right back and smash you in the mouth.  Pain train's coming and you better get off the tracks.  We will not allow anyone to get in our way. 
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Reeno10 on May 24, 2006, 05:00:43 pm
Wow.....we got a freshman posting now from lakeland......well sophomore now!!! I am glad the pain train is coming because i am sure the "pain train," is coming with every team in the conference....hey wagner do something in the conference before posting your thoughts on the website..... i will be sure to relay the message to my boy #9 at mac he should know all about the pain train!!!! Dont write checks that your ASS cant cash underclassman!!! CHILDREN ARE TO BE SEEN NOT HEARD!!! get some upperclassman status and actually do something before you talk your little game!! Thanks... Lakeland will be alright but wont be any close to the power house as they once were......you say this year or 2 ago maybe we wouldnt say anything back but than again you were still in high school trying to figure out where you were going to go to college!! But that is good that everyone is working hard at lakeland just like every other team in the conference! Watch out for the PAIN TRAIN #40 from lakeland an honerable mention linebacker
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: WAGNER40 on May 24, 2006, 07:43:26 pm
Your right, I'll let my game speak when I knock your block off.  What's your name again?
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: NCAA Football on May 24, 2006, 09:05:04 pm
Your right, I'll let my game speak when I knock your block off.  What's your name again?

Settle down Wagner 40.  All Reeno 10 is saying is do something before you talk.  if it that big of a deal to you, prove him wrong when your season starts, and if you know anything about Reeno 10, you would already know he graduated and was a great athlete.  so dont get all offended, he was making a valid point.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: WAGNER40 on May 24, 2006, 10:08:33 pm
This a agree with it.  I know I have shoes to fill.  I am very excited about the oppurtunity to play this great game of football with some very worthy opponents.  It really doesn't faze me what others think or say because it all comes down to who has prepared the most.  If anything, people talking bull**** just makes me throw up that last set or last sprint with added authority.  I simply am praising my abilitites and my team like everyone else. Never been much for talking smack, it's interesting who gets offended.  I will no longer put comments on here if people don't want to hear what I have to say.  that's fine with me.  It's not the size or bark of dog in the fight, It's all about the fight in the dog.  Been an honor speaking football, Best be paying attention when the whistles are blown because whatever happens is the only thing that really matters.  Preparing to Win with every oz. of energy that we have can be our difference maker.  I need to go take care of what needs to be done.  Fate will intervein.  Good Luck to all.  See ya come gametime.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Reeno10 on May 24, 2006, 10:22:18 pm
OOO Sh*t, THis keeps getting funnier and funnier.......We got Vince Lombardi, himself, here!!! Thanks for proving my point KID!!! CHILDREN ARE TO BE SEEN NOT HEARD!!! thanks for not posting anymore its doing us all a favor!! Like i said i am glad you are working hard but i garrantee that linebacker from Greenville is working hard too, so is my boy #9 from mac which he will hear about this all and trust me these two have proven themselves already...also i am sure Ereg from mac is preparing himself for the Pain Train too...and the running backs from CUW are preparing themselves too!! are they posting right now!! NOO they are to busy! It seems like you act like your sh*t and lakelands sh*t dont stink neither....what gets me is do you really think everyone else is just sitting on the couch right now!! No there arent, EVERYBODY KNOWS THAT CHAMPIONSHIPS ARE WON IN THE OFF SEASON!! So dont cheat the game and the conference for its ultimate prize of the conference championship bc i garrantee that every team is working just as hard if not harder than what your saying!! Man i wish i was playing bc i know i would teach a lesson bout running your mouth but for now i will leave my two boys to do it....there #'s 22 from mac and #9!! again dont write checks your ass cant cash!!! Thanks kid you just made it interesting!!!
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: sotha sil on May 25, 2006, 12:58:23 am
Oh, I love all this.  Justin Lewis is our QB at CUW next season.  He has amazing running ability and a cannon for an arm.  He can launch a football farther than anyone in the conference.  But, he has been inconsistent as a passer.  The thing that people love about him is how much the game means to him.  How much a mistake pains him and how much he loves to win.

As for wagner 40 I can tell you are taking great offense to all this.  But, I will say talking on here once or twice a day will not keep a player from getting in their training.  Lets be serious.  But, if you are gonna get on here and talk, don't be a idiot.  Reeno10 was a wide out that was multiple 1st team conference and probably an all american his senior year.  Probably could knock your block off as well. 

All the top teams are working hard in the off season.  CUW lost Manny Mills, but return a hell of a lot of talent.  I see CUW running away with conference only to be contended by lakeland.  With CUW Lakeland, i dont care what the records are, who the players are, who the coaches are.  That is gonna be a ball game
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: maddog8 on May 25, 2006, 03:00:47 am
Usually when I post about an athlete it is pretty accurate about there talent and abitlity to play the game, My "ALL MADDOG TEAM'S" are very accurate even before the IBFC TEAM's are posted. LIsten when I say that I PERSONALLY WILL WRITE ANY CHECK WAGNER WANT WRTTEN!!!! Reeno10 I am sure you were a great wide out but trust me Wagner would knock your block off, Your boy #9 from Mac is a STUD no Doubt and the best in the conference at this point, Greenville's LB is another STUD and will compete for the top spot against #9 from Mac. MY CHECK SAY THAT WHEN IT IS ALL SAID AND DONE WAGNER WILL BE ON TOP OF THEM ALL!!!!! A s for Wilk at QB for Lakeland, well lets just say he will fill Ryans shoes very well, NO doubt in my mind about that statement. The title will come down to Lakeland and CUW bottomline. Greenville and Mac will be right up there competing for that title. Mac is one yr away from what I see, that's not to say they can't overcome it this yr and win it all. But again my check is going on Wagner and Lakeland again. As for being Honerable Mention well thats pretty good considering he's a Freshman coming into the league, He'll be first team this yr as a Soph. WERE YOU GUYS FIRST TEAM AS SOPH??
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Gomer Pyle on May 25, 2006, 08:37:04 am
 Maddog...................don`t you ever go to work?
      :D :
  One other thing, Lakeland gets throttled by
   Eureka.   :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D
 
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: maddog8 on May 25, 2006, 09:13:01 am
Pyle, 15 hours a day plus what I read and post, Listen to Srgt. Carter never Eureka, Whitewater MAYBE!!!!
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: maddog8 on May 25, 2006, 09:19:31 am
Then again NOT even Whitewater ??? ??? ???
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: maddog8 on May 25, 2006, 09:44:25 am
John read don't write, FOCUS on one team, and one team only WHITEWATER, there is no need to talk you will no doubt prove your point on the field, (2) I'll do Lakelands smack talkin with my other has-been friends on this site. Keep reading and working hard and LEADERSHIP ON THE FIELD WILL TAKE CARE OF ITSELF!! I must say I love when a person is confident enough in himself to call out players, No sham or hidding behind mamma's skirt like some players who write on this site. Focus and read don't write. This is going to be an exciting season full of punishment throughout the conference, in fact I will go out on a limb and say that the IBFC will win there first PLAYOFF GAME this season. If you guys bust eachother during the season the winner should be ready for the playoffs. There is a lot of "D" talent in this conferences to go around. Mac, Greenville, CUW, BU, and Lakeland all have top players coming back, as does AU, CURF, and Eureka. In addition there are some very excellent coaches on ALL the TEAMs, Bring on SEPT. 06
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Da One on May 25, 2006, 10:56:53 am
Maddog,
Care to make a friendly wager (LC football t-shirt for LC football t-shirt), on an IBC team winning a playoff game.  Here's how I see it.  IBC is considered the weakest league in the North region.  I'm not saying its true, but that is the word on the street.  As long as that is the case, the IBC winner will play the 1 or 2 seed in the region, correct?  This potentially puts them against Mt. Union, Augie, Wabash, teams like that.  I don't think that any team in the IBC will be at the level of those quality programs from quality conferences. 

Wags buddy,
Even if you have all the confidence in the world in yourself, why put a big target on your back by getting on here and posting.  Learn a lesson from T.O.  Just go play and stay focused on what you have to do, not what people outside of your program are saying. 
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: maddog8 on May 25, 2006, 12:48:38 pm
My good friend Da One, bet! althought you should have given me and LC shirt last yr when I drove to Decora to see you guys play Wartburg. I will try to make a game this yr again if possible and have work off,  should make the scrimmage. Yes and Lc shirt for and LC shirt if IBFC rep wins playoff game. And good luck to your LC this yr, I have you guys pegged to win your conference in Iowa
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: WAGNER40 on May 25, 2006, 12:48:56 pm
My picks on the conference. Doesn't MacMurry have a combined conference record of 9-12 over the past 3 years in conference play? Unless they have tons of stud freshman coming in i really don't see MacMurry winning more than 3 maybe 4 games next year in conference. Benedictine has super nice facilities but there football team still sucks. Eureka may only beat CURF. CURF try to break one of the current nations long losing streaks. Greenville tough defense with a lot returning. Losing some keys on offense. Aurora had down year last year but could surprise, CUW will be tough, lot of returners like us, Lakeland 3-time champs.  
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: footballisfun on May 25, 2006, 01:39:15 pm
I thought that we already discussed that the past doesnt matter.  Besides in this conf. anything can happen on Sat.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Gomer Pyle on May 25, 2006, 01:40:41 pm
 Wanner40: Just for the record................................. .......It`s  MacMurray,
  not.........MacMurry.
  As a player (i assume) in the IBC you should at least know the correct spelling of your opponents.
  Maybe in your zeal to tout your "Thunder of Zor"
  persona, which will certainly be tested by all the
  players you have dished , you fingers got ahead
   of your brain then my apologies.
  In the past there have been some really good smack  talkers that roamed this forum so until  you prove something........
 One other question. (3) Championships for Lakeland? What years might they be?
   Co-champs don`t count. Either you win it out right or you don`t.  
  
  
 Maddog:  If you would have stayed in school  you wouldn`t have to work 15 hours a day. 
 ;D     
         
 
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: maddog8 on May 25, 2006, 01:59:03 pm
Pyle, actually I have a Master in Business and working as an Executive for Ford Motor Company, your day never really ends it just keeps going and going, but I do love my 130k pay a year. and gee wizz your ed level is???
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Gomer Pyle on May 25, 2006, 03:04:01 pm
  Maddog: Just so you know, your "All Maddog"
  selections are always well thought out and carefully chosen.  I know it`s a bit early  but
   i wanted to get that in before  you go into your "Mel Allen" impersonation and i know it`s
   coming.  
 We`ve been at this for a while now and i`ve had your back on a few occasions  so you know where your concerned it`s always.......good natured, give and take.  Just wanted to say that as last year
  i "missed" one of yours.
  In case you just woke up.......yes, Augie did beat
   Lakeland!
   By the way:
  Touting your "new" boy  (W-40) is fine but in doing so you show (IMO) a  lack of respect for X-Mac`s #10 a "PROVEN" gamer in this conference for (4) years. Even better, he graduated. Yes you
   did toss him (#10) a bone saying he could play(
   in so many words.)
  As he was "Conference Receiver of the
  year",amongst many other awards,  i would think that if your W-40 exceeds the above then he to will have "earned" the respect of his peers.  
  For you to summarily dismiss his(#10) accomplishments  in favor of a "future" all star who up to this point has shown nothing is.... puzzling.
  Sometimes the line is crossed if you know what i mean.  Your retort is welcome.

      
  
    
  
    
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Gomer Pyle on May 25, 2006, 03:11:18 pm
Pyle, actually I have a Master in Business and working as an Executive for Ford Motor Company, your day never really ends it just keeps going and going, but I do love my 130k pay a year. and gee wizz your ed level is???

  And you point is???????
   I guess if you toot your own horn it sounds pretty good...........
     U of Maryland.  GI bill  Night school. :o
     You were in what service???
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Gomer Pyle on May 25, 2006, 03:27:28 pm
Pyle, actually I have a Master in Business and working as an Executive for Ford Motor Company, your day never really ends it just keeps going and going, but I do love my 130k pay a year. and gee wizz your ed level is???
[/quot

   Like i saw earlier, if you did it correct the FIRST time your day wouldn`t seem like it goes on and on.
   You know what helps the long day syndrome?
   Quit watching the clock and actually do something
    Mr Ford Ex. Opps,  Mr Allen. 
   
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Reeno10 on May 25, 2006, 08:21:57 pm
Lets cut the Bullsh*t..... WAgner your a lil freshman with a big mouth.....how much bullsh*t will keep coming out your mouth? first yuo say you will stop posting than you keep on posting!! Cant you see NO ONE RESPECTS YOUR OPINION!!!! NO ONE!!! if it is to me and other people your opinion on who win games and who is going to be good is IRRELIVANT!!!!! Get out of your teens before you say sh*t and also dont say sh*t bc you arent even in the top 5 at your position!!  Stats say your not good as you present yourself to be and also your peers seem to think too!! is that what Lakeland fills your heads that you younger classman are the best and that your sh*t dont stink!! if that is the case why aRent you D1 than or in the least case D2...... You aint..you arent the best in d3, let alone your conference or your postion soo really  who are you to say anything??? my boy is ten times better than you and trust me he has been reading that and if you want to meet a crazy MUTHAF*CKER than meet him i garrantee you want to see a pain train will he will leave you six feet under DUDE!! you are soo lucky i am not playing but my other boy will put you in your place on #22!! You aint nothin... LAKELAND aint nothing without there star QB....Excuses about replace him is nothing but BULLSH*T.....They are scared i know it... as for the mac and lakeland game last year WHAT I HEARD is that lakeland had there tail between there legs for the most part untill macs QB came out of the game!! and still had it close till a late 4th quarter TD!!! i know it maybe a excuse but I WILL GARRAUNTEE A WIN OVER LAKELAND THIS YEAR WHEN MAC MEETS LAKELAND!!! i dont care what little kids say anymore this keds word aint SH*T nor what he does on the field aint nothin neither MY ALL CONFERENCE LINEBACKERS #9 Mac.....GReenville LB.....CUW LB......AND #6 from MAC..other than that this wagner kid waits his turn like a little kid that he is.....MADDOG you may be pro lakeland but enough is enough...i respect your word and your opinion but YOUR BOY has been talking way to much SHI*T and personally i dont think him nor his team can back it up, when this season is over i will garrantee ignorant lakeland posters will be EMBARRASSED to post bc there time has come and gone....time to be in the middle sorry but the truth hurts!!! GO MAC....stop #15...........#22..........#12.............#9............#6 All key players at key players at key positions.....what does lakeland have...nothing but LITTLE underclassmans with be mouths!!!!!!! like i said and i dont care what maddog sez!!!!!DONT WRITE CHECKS THAT YOUR ASS CANT CASH!!!!! i said my peace and thats it!!!! I proved myself what have you done!!!!!!!! NOTHING SO SHUT THE HELL UP!!!!!
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: maddog8 on May 26, 2006, 03:42:24 am
Reeno10, you were one of the best receivers in the league no question. When all said and done Wagner will be one of the best LB's, your boy is at the top for the start of the season, I'll give him that. Wwith Greenvilles stud second and I still have Wagner 3rd. Enough said, I do think Mac and Lakeland will be a great game. Hell I might even drive down for that game as well as the CUW game. I just remember hat being a long azz drive 2 yrs ago. How's your dad doing?

Pyle, I love my job that's why I work so much. It's my football field if you will.

Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: footballisfun on May 26, 2006, 01:40:52 pm
You really think he will be #3 next year.  What about Eddie Hill from BU who was also a feshman this year and had more total tackles or Scotty Gregory from Mac who was a soph. this year and had more tackels or Scott Gerhke from CW who will be a Sr. next year and also had more tackles then Wanger.  Dont get me wrong I think that Wanger will turn out to be a great football player for LC but to make that large of jump in one off season when there were a lot of good young linebackers last year is kind crazy.  I am not saying it cant be done but the odds are def. stacked against him because everyone is working hard this summer.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: maddog8 on May 26, 2006, 02:33:53 pm
footballisfun, Hell I forgot the gentleman from CUW he was good last yr but I got to tell you this Wagner is a college kid in a mans body and mine set. I'm telling you, unless I was totally convinced of my comments I would not say it. He will be on top. Remember with a guy like Ryan Van Doo Loo as your top guy last yr he was going to get his share. Honestly all the guys you mentioned are worthy of the top spot. This will be a Defensive yr in the IBFC, the O side of the ball will be tough to move for all teams.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: bufan on May 27, 2006, 09:57:00 pm
Reeno, Apparently you are from Mac and if there is anything I learned in my 4 years at BU playing football, its that Mac players talk a lot at the beginning of the year, become humbled, especially after getting demolished by BU this past season, then around this time, the trash talking begins again and we have to listen to it for a few more months before you guys are humbled once again.

DO NOT interpret this as me saying BU is going to win conference cause I am  not saying that, but they will continue to improve for certain.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Cougswillwin on May 29, 2006, 09:53:13 pm
He's Right!!!!
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: FalconsFootball on May 30, 2006, 05:08:17 pm
I have played with some of the best linebackers this conference has ever seen and I think Gerhke from CUW is another.  He has incredible instincts and knowledge of the game.  The kids from mac did well against other teams in the confernce but against CUW (the best rushing team)  they got run over.  LC stopped CUW in the second half, mainly due to predictability and some of the players on O "giving up" as I heard.  I agree with Reeno10 (what part of FLA are you from?)  Untill you prove it don't talk, and even if you were to prove it show some class.  Maybe you will be a good player in this conference, but untill then you have no right to talk.  There have been far better players in the IBFC who say far less.  I am going with Gerhke..CUW (prove me right Scott) Then Greenville then Mac from just from what I have seen.   

And Maddog you have good insight into a lot of things but  ??? ???Whitewater ??? ???  come on.  They put up 70 plus, LC can't hang with them 
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: FalconsFootball on May 30, 2006, 05:10:47 pm
And Maddog go up to Auburn Hills and tell the Pistons to move the ball stop taking stupid contested shots and pull their heads out of their rectums.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Cougswillwin on May 30, 2006, 08:38:44 pm
He's Right Maddog
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: footballisfun on May 30, 2006, 11:46:48 pm
I have played with some of the best linebackers this conference has ever seen and I think Gerhke from CUW is another.  He has incredible instincts and knowledge of the game.  The kids from mac did well against other teams in the confernce but against CUW (the best rushing team)  they got run over.  LC stopped CUW in the second half, mainly due to predictability and some of the players on O "giving up" as I heard.  I agree with Reeno10 (what part of FLA are you from?)  Untill you prove it don't talk, and even if you were to prove it show some class.  Maybe you will be a good player in this conference, but untill then you have no right to talk.  There have been far better players in the IBFC who say far less.  I am going with Gerhke..CUW (prove me right Scott) Then Greenville then Mac from just from what I have seen.   

And Maddog you have good insight into a lot of things but  ??? ???Whitewater ??? ???  come on.  They put up 70 plus, LC can't hang with them 


You have The kid from third (correct me if I am wrong about this).  Last year he had 16.5 more tackles then the closest guy to him and average almost 10 tackles a game.  The kid from CUW only had 6.2 tackles a game. Plus (on the stat sheet) the kid from mac and the kid from GC still had one more game to play (they didnt update for the last week of the regular season).  I know that anything can happen at any time in this confrence but lets give credit where credit is due.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: Reeno10 on May 31, 2006, 11:13:42 pm
Once again....one of the representives from than the power house teams need to let there air out there heads from being to big over the years....MY BOY #9 from LAKE MARY FLA, and mac and the kid from GC WILL BE THE BE IN COMPETITIONG FOR LINEBACKER OF THE YEAR NEXT YEAR PERIOD!!!! Good stats footballisfun, maybe we do need to give credit where credit is due!! OOOO AH LAKE MARRRRRRRRRRY!!!! FLA TALENT BOY WHATCHA KNOW BOUT THAT DUDE!!! HAHA !!!!! WAGNER NOW GERHKE why cant people except that the bast players arent on lakeland or CUW or aurora.....maybe they are on other teams!! STATS SPEAK FOR THEMSELVES!! LOOK AT THE NATIONAL STATS FROM LAST YEAR and the year before you will see LAKE MARY boys in the upper half!!
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: ibfcisdead on June 02, 2006, 01:55:59 pm
I believe CURF has the two best RBs in the conf.  personally...sorry
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: FalconsFootball on June 02, 2006, 05:35:08 pm
I'm from Ocala Fl  what highgschool did you go to Reeno
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: sotha sil on June 02, 2006, 05:50:15 pm
I understand you were a good player reeno...your stats were up there but your wins were way down...you won two chamionships before you were the major impact...and your boy won no championships...so put the stats with the wins then it will be worth it....gerke plays his position properly and rarely makes a mistake....he plays to a system and the coaches in the conference realize how great he is at it...and my OPINION from what I have seen...#9 is good but not the top...But, he does have passion and that allows him to play a lot better than he is athletically...the same with the guy from greenville
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: footballisfun on June 02, 2006, 06:44:41 pm
But when they pick the all conf. teams they dont look at that stuff.  They look at stats.
Title: Re: Illini-Badger Conference
Post by: formerd3db on June 03, 2006, 12:50:39 pm
But when they pick the all conf. teams they dont look at that stuff. They look at stats.

My apologies for jumping into the middle of your discussion here; however, that is not always true.  Selection of the all-conference teams unfortunately does take those things into account, when at times, it should not.  I could cite you many examples from various conferences where the stat leaders in the conference who are starters and big contributors were overlooked and not selected for the all-conference teams.  In some instances, they were passed over by players selected who did not have any relevant "league" stats in their respective position categories.  That is sad, yet politics finds its way into these situations at times as we all know- just a fact of life.