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Title: 2018 D-III World Series
Post by: Ralph Turner on May 20, 2018, 07:29:25 pm
2018 Division III National Baseball Championship at Fox Cities Stadium in Appleton WI.
Title: Re: 2018 D-III World Series
Post by: Jack Parkman on May 20, 2018, 08:17:43 pm
2017 Division III National Baseball Championship at Fox Cities Stadium in Appleton WI.

2017?  I could live that one over again...
Title: Re: 2018 D-III World Series
Post by: AllStar on May 21, 2018, 02:04:35 am
Qualifiers so far (through Sunday...I will edit this post after Monday and post another thing or two, also):
2018 Field:
(https://i.imgur.com/EpGfIks.png)

(the further toward the bottom right on this chart, the better)
(https://i.imgur.com/EFLuCay.png?2)
Title: Re: 2018 D-III World Series
Post by: Wooster Booster on May 21, 2018, 08:38:52 pm
Is there yet a website for this event?  Hoping to find the bracket, scheduling, etc.  Thanks.
Title: Re: 2018 D-III World Series
Post by: bzzboyz on May 21, 2018, 11:00:23 pm
5 first timers and 2 second timers. That's going to make it fun. When will a schedule be posted?
Title: Re: 2018 D-III World Series
Post by: Jim Dixon on May 22, 2018, 01:31:15 am
Friday's opening day games

Bracket A           

Oswego State vs Texas Tyler
Misericordia vs. Randolph-Macon

Bracket B           

Concordia-Chicago vs. Swarthmore
Wooster vs Texas Lutheran
Title: Re: 2018 D-III World Series
Post by: AllStar on May 22, 2018, 01:33:09 am
Bracket
(https://i.imgur.com/KZfhhyH.png)
Title: Re: 2018 D-III World Series
Post by: Wooster Booster on May 22, 2018, 06:13:46 am
Thanks for posting this!  Seems that the national rankings are not a factor in the draw.  Is it completely random, or done with some rotation based on the regions?
Title: Re: 2018 D-III World Series
Post by: TexasBB on May 22, 2018, 09:11:32 am
Glad to see the two Texas teams in different brackets.
Title: Re: 2018 D-III World Series
Post by: Just Bill on May 22, 2018, 09:51:19 am
Thanks for posting this!  Seems that the national rankings are not a factor in the draw.  Is it completely random, or done with some rotation based on the regions?
Championship committee does it based on the published selection criteria. National rankings are done by outside sources and are not part of the selection criteria.
Title: Re: 2018 D-III World Series
Post by: cubs on May 22, 2018, 11:15:47 am
Friday's opening day games

Bracket A           

Oswego State vs Texas Tyler
Misericordia vs. Randolph-Macon

Bracket B           

Concordia-Chicago vs. Swarthmore
Wooster vs Texas Lutheran
Just out of curiosity, would these match-ups be the same regardless of who won each of the 8 Regionals or might they be different had Webster or Whitewater won the Central for example?
Title: Re: 2018 D-III World Series
Post by: Wooster Booster on May 22, 2018, 11:18:15 am
Here are the latest Massey Ratings:

https://www.masseyratings.com/rate.php?s=cbase2018&sub=11620 (https://www.masseyratings.com/rate.php?s=cbase2018&sub=11620)
Title: Re: 2018 D-III World Series
Post by: Jack Parkman on May 22, 2018, 12:06:18 pm
Friday's opening day games

Bracket A           

Oswego State vs Texas Tyler
Misericordia vs. Randolph-Macon

Bracket B           

Concordia-Chicago vs. Swarthmore
Wooster vs Texas Lutheran
Just out of curiosity, would these match-ups be the same regardless of who won each of the 8 Regionals or might they be different had Webster or Whitewater won the Central for example?

Likely different, but possible just slightly.  The bracket isn't made until all teams have clinched, which is much better than in years past when the times/match ups were pre-determined.  I remember playing in the WS in Virginia and playing the 9am game on day 1.  Making a West Coast team play at 9am was brutal, although we did smoke Cortland so it didn't hurt us too bad.
Title: Re: 2018 D-III World Series
Post by: BigPoppa on May 22, 2018, 12:25:07 pm
Friday's opening day games

Bracket A           

Oswego State vs Texas Tyler
Misericordia vs. Randolph-Macon

Bracket B           

Concordia-Chicago vs. Swarthmore
Wooster vs Texas Lutheran
Just out of curiosity, would these match-ups be the same regardless of who won each of the 8 Regionals or might they be different had Webster or Whitewater won the Central for example?

Likely different, but possible just slightly.  The bracket isn't made until all teams have clinched, which is much better than in years past when the times/match ups were pre-determined.  I remember playing in the WS in Virginia and playing the 9am game on day 1. Making a West Coast team play at 9am was brutal, although we did smoke Cortland so it didn't hurt us too bad.

Was that in '95?
Title: Re: 2018 D-III World Series
Post by: gbpuckfan on May 22, 2018, 02:41:57 pm
Welcome to Northeast Wisconsin!

If you have any questions about the area, other events, attractions, etc. - just let me know...

And, one technical note for those typing bylines, or perhaps for online directions, etc, the stadium itself is in Grand Chute, not Appleton.

Title: Re: 2018 D-III World Series
Post by: Jack Parkman on May 22, 2018, 03:50:50 pm
Friday's opening day games

Bracket A           

Oswego State vs Texas Tyler
Misericordia vs. Randolph-Macon

Bracket B           

Concordia-Chicago vs. Swarthmore
Wooster vs Texas Lutheran
Just out of curiosity, would these match-ups be the same regardless of who won each of the 8 Regionals or might they be different had Webster or Whitewater won the Central for example?

Likely different, but possible just slightly.  The bracket isn't made until all teams have clinched, which is much better than in years past when the times/match ups were pre-determined.  I remember playing in the WS in Virginia and playing the 9am game on day 1. Making a West Coast team play at 9am was brutal, although we did smoke Cortland so it didn't hurt us too bad.

Was that in '95?

Nope, '99
Title: Re: 2018 D-III World Series
Post by: Wooster Booster on May 22, 2018, 10:23:02 pm
It appears that they've moved Friday's game times up an hour.

http://www.uwoshkoshtitans.com/NCAABaseballChampionship/Index
Title: Re: 2018 D-III World Series
Post by: Jack Parkman on May 22, 2018, 11:34:03 pm
It appears that they've moved Friday's game times up an hour.

http://www.uwoshkoshtitans.com/NCAABaseballChampionship/Index

NCAA has them posted as EST, Oshkosh has them posted as local (CST).
Title: Re: 2018 D-III World Series
Post by: Ralph Turner on May 22, 2018, 11:50:35 pm
I ran the Fielding Averages for the 8 teams and here is the "inverse" of the Fielding Averages

Team                    Chances                 Errors             FA           Chances per Error


Wooster                   1852                    41                .978             45.2 : 1

Randy Mac                1614                   44                .973             36.7 : 1

UT-Tyler                   1949                    69                .965             28.2  :  1

Concordia-Chicago     1965                   71                 .964             27.7  :  1

Swarthmore              1781                   65                 .964             27.4   :  1

TLU                          1729                   66                  .962            26.2  :   1

Misericordia               1826                   72                  .961            25.4  :   1

Oswego                     1580                   87                 .945             18.2  :   1 
Title: Re: 2018 D-III World Series
Post by: mwunder on May 23, 2018, 09:20:34 am
Per Oshkosh website...

"Pool A #1 Seed (1st Overall) • Randolph-Macon College (Va.)
Pool A #2 Seed (4th Overall) • State University of New York at Oswego
Pool A #3 Seed (5th Overall) • University of Texas at Tyler
Pool A #4 Seed (8th Overall) • Misericordia University (Pa.)

Pool B #1 Seed (2nd Overall) • Concordia University Chicago (Ill.)
Pool B #2 Seed (3rd Overall) • The College of Wooster (Ohio)
Pool B #3 Seed (6th Overall) • Texas Lutheran University
Pool B #4 Seed (7th Overall) • Swarthmore College (Pa.)"

CUC is the #2 overall seed?  How can that be right?  Am I totally off-base in thinking this?
Title: Re: 2018 D-III World Series
Post by: Ralph Turner on May 23, 2018, 09:32:06 am
Per Oshkosh website...

"Pool A #1 Seed (1st Overall) • Randolph-Macon College (Va.)
Pool A #2 Seed (4th Overall) • State University of New York at Oswego
Pool A #3 Seed (5th Overall) • University of Texas at Tyler
Pool A #4 Seed (8th Overall) • Misericordia University (Pa.)

Pool B #1 Seed (2nd Overall) • Concordia University Chicago (Ill.)
Pool B #2 Seed (3rd Overall) • The College of Wooster (Ohio)
Pool B #3 Seed (6th Overall) • Texas Lutheran University
Pool B #4 Seed (7th Overall) • Swarthmore College (Pa.)"

CUC is the #2 overall seed?  How can that be right?  Am I totally off-base in thinking this?
Thank you for your comment.

Can you elaborate on why you think that CUC should not be the #2 seed? Either higher or lower?

I thought that the Fielding Averages were instructive when considering the seeding, over and beyond season record.
Title: Re: 2018 D-III World Series
Post by: mwunder on May 23, 2018, 09:44:23 am
Per Oshkosh website...

"Pool A #1 Seed (1st Overall) • Randolph-Macon College (Va.)
Pool A #2 Seed (4th Overall) • State University of New York at Oswego
Pool A #3 Seed (5th Overall) • University of Texas at Tyler
Pool A #4 Seed (8th Overall) • Misericordia University (Pa.)

Pool B #1 Seed (2nd Overall) • Concordia University Chicago (Ill.)
Pool B #2 Seed (3rd Overall) • The College of Wooster (Ohio)
Pool B #3 Seed (6th Overall) • Texas Lutheran University
Pool B #4 Seed (7th Overall) • Swarthmore College (Pa.)"

CUC is the #2 overall seed?  How can that be right?  Am I totally off-base in thinking this?
Thank you for your comment.

Can you elaborate on why you think that CUC should not be the #2 seed? Either higher or lower?

I thought that the Fielding Averages were instructive when considering the seeding, over and beyond season record.

Wooster has 40 wins, plays in a tougher conference than CUC, and swept through their region, so I would have thought they would have gotten the #2 seed behind R-Macon.
Title: Re: 2018 D-III World Series
Post by: Ralph Turner on May 23, 2018, 10:07:53 am
Per Oshkosh website...

"Pool A #1 Seed (1st Overall) • Randolph-Macon College (Va.)
Pool A #2 Seed (4th Overall) • State University of New York at Oswego
Pool A #3 Seed (5th Overall) • University of Texas at Tyler
Pool A #4 Seed (8th Overall) • Misericordia University (Pa.)

Pool B #1 Seed (2nd Overall) • Concordia University Chicago (Ill.)
Pool B #2 Seed (3rd Overall) • The College of Wooster (Ohio)
Pool B #3 Seed (6th Overall) • Texas Lutheran University
Pool B #4 Seed (7th Overall) • Swarthmore College (Pa.)"

CUC is the #2 overall seed?  How can that be right?  Am I totally off-base in thinking this?
Thank you for your comment.

Can you elaborate on why you think that CUC should not be the #2 seed? Either higher or lower?

I thought that the Fielding Averages were instructive when considering the seeding, over and beyond season record.

Wooster has 40 wins, plays in a tougher conference than CUC, and swept through their region, so I would have thought they would have gotten the #2 seed behind R-Macon.
Thanks. (I wondered whom you thought should be higher seed in the other bracket.)  My impression of Fielding Average is that it shows how a team does or does not "beat itself".  IMHO, at this level, every team has offense and pitching (of its choosing), but Fielding is the variable when one comes to tight games.
Title: Re: 2018 D-III World Series
Post by: Jim Dixon on May 24, 2018, 09:40:35 am
CUC is the #2 overall seed?  How can that be right?  Am I totally off-base in thinking this?

I can see CUC being the #3 seed and ultimately it places them in the same bracket, just a different opponent. 
Title: Re: 2018 D-III World Series
Post by: Ralph Turner on May 24, 2018, 10:50:53 am
Per Oshkosh website...

"Pool A #1 Seed (1st Overall) • Randolph-Macon College (Va.)
Pool A #2 Seed (4th Overall) • State University of New York at Oswego
Pool A #3 Seed (5th Overall) • University of Texas at Tyler
Pool A #4 Seed (8th Overall) • Misericordia University (Pa.)

Pool B #1 Seed (2nd Overall) • Concordia University Chicago (Ill.)
Pool B #2 Seed (3rd Overall) • The College of Wooster (Ohio)
Pool B #3 Seed (6th Overall) • Texas Lutheran University
Pool B #4 Seed (7th Overall) • Swarthmore College (Pa.)"

CUC is the #2 overall seed?  How can that be right?  Am I totally off-base in thinking this?



CUC is the #2 overall seed?  How can that be right?  Am I totally off-base in thinking this?
I can see CUC being the #3 seed and ultimately it places them in the same bracket, just a different opponent. 
Correction.  ;)
Title: Re: 2018 D-III World Series
Post by: mwunder on May 24, 2018, 11:49:51 am
Per Oshkosh website...

"Pool A #1 Seed (1st Overall) • Randolph-Macon College (Va.)
Pool A #2 Seed (4th Overall) • State University of New York at Oswego
Pool A #3 Seed (5th Overall) • University of Texas at Tyler
Pool A #4 Seed (8th Overall) • Misericordia University (Pa.)

Pool B #1 Seed (2nd Overall) • Concordia University Chicago (Ill.)
Pool B #2 Seed (3rd Overall) • The College of Wooster (Ohio)
Pool B #3 Seed (6th Overall) • Texas Lutheran University
Pool B #4 Seed (7th Overall) • Swarthmore College (Pa.)"

CUC is the #2 overall seed?  How can that be right?  Am I totally off-base in thinking this?


I can see CUC being the #3 seed and ultimately it places them in the same bracket, just a different opponent. 
Correction, corrected.

Title: Re: 2018 D-III World Series
Post by: Ralph Turner on May 24, 2018, 06:19:03 pm
 :D  +1! for the corrected correction!
Title: Re: 2018 D-III World Series
Post by: Ralph Turner on May 25, 2018, 10:10:00 am
In 2017 Pat Coleman reviewed the teams involved in the selection process. Although the names have changed for 2018, the general concepts apply as to who gets selected and who is left on the table.  Enjoy!

http://www.d3baseball.com/playoffs/2017/breaking-down-at-large
Title: Re: 2018 D-III World Series
Post by: Ralph Turner on May 25, 2018, 11:51:21 am
Whoa... concerning the 3rd run by Oswego, that runner missed the hand tag of the plate and the catcher tagged the runner afterwards twice on the back.
Title: Re: 2018 D-III World Series
Post by: TexasBB on May 25, 2018, 01:35:03 pm
Tyler wins 10-5. Hit 2 home runs and gets a good pitching effort out of Simon Sedillo who had a complete game thus saving the bullpen for later.
Title: Re: 2018 D-III World Series
Post by: Ralph Turner on May 25, 2018, 05:20:33 pm
Randy Mac went 1 for 16 with runners in scoring position.

Misericordia 4, Randy Mac 2
Title: Re: 2018 D-III World Series
Post by: Ralph Turner on May 25, 2018, 07:45:58 pm
Just now, in the background of the NCAA broadcast, I heard a voice talk about Tarpcon 4.
Title: Re: 2018 D-III World Series
Post by: bzzboyz on May 26, 2018, 12:33:36 am
TLU 7
Wooster 0

I've gotta say. A 4 hit shut out against a team that hits like that is probably the most impressive thing I've seen on the mound in a long time in D3. Not to mention your best hitter goes hitless and you still score 7 runs.
Title: Re: 2018 D-III World Series
Post by: AllStar on May 26, 2018, 12:42:02 am
Congratulations to the winners on day one!
(https://i.imgur.com/fXG4SpT.png)
Title: Re: 2018 D-III World Series
Post by: Ralph Turner on May 26, 2018, 07:05:30 am
Three of the four "home" (higher seeded) teams lost in the first round. 

Can we say that D-3 is balanced?
Title: Re: 2018 D-III World Series
Post by: TexasBB on May 26, 2018, 05:33:33 pm
Tyler wins again 7-3 and is in the lower bracket finals! This is a team that was a 4th seed the ASC conference tournament. They thought their season was over when they lost  to Concordia Texas in the conference tournament. Received a Pool C bid to the Central and have made the most of their second life.
Title: Re: 2018 D-III World Series
Post by: Purple Heys on May 26, 2018, 11:24:52 pm
Three of the four "home" (higher seeded) teams lost in the first round. 

Can we say that D-3 is balanced?
Just as readily as we could say there were seeding flaws.  It is plausible to consider that the 2 West Region teams were under seeded.
Title: Re: 2018 D-III World Series
Post by: AllStar on May 27, 2018, 12:26:10 am
Six teams left:
(https://i.imgur.com/z3cMuIG.png)
Title: Re: 2018 D-III World Series
Post by: Jack Parkman on May 27, 2018, 10:28:19 am
Not much talk in here about the WS but it's obvious that UT Tyler and Concordia are sitting pretty.  Some of my thoughts...

- What a disappointing showing by Wooster.  Coming into the WS they had a .353 team BA and they could only muster 5 runs on 13 hits over their 2 games.
- Another 0-2 for Oswego but they lost to 2 very good teams.
- It seems there is a lot more power in this years field than last year.  It also seems like the pitching and defense has been lackluster.
- Tyler reminds me of last years Cal Lu team....hot at the right time and doing the little things to get the job done.
- Great weather
- It's the University of Texas at Tyler, not Tyler-Texas as the play by play guys keep calling them.

I would be shocked if both pods weren't wrapped up tonight.  Maybe one day the field will allow for more rest.  I know it's D3 and the money is short, but it really sucks that they try and get this tournament wrapped up as quick as possible. 
Title: Re: 2018 D-III World Series
Post by: Ralph Turner on May 27, 2018, 10:54:22 am
TLU's starter Dylan Drgac may have had his worst outing of the year. His previous loss was to UTT, when he gave up 3 runs in 6 innings in the 11-4 loss. The score was 3-0 when he left.
Title: Re: 2018 D-III World Series
Post by: AllStar on May 28, 2018, 02:37:30 am
Long day!  Two if necessary games coming on Monday.
(https://i.imgur.com/fWHLfK0.png)
Title: Re: 2018 D-III World Series
Post by: Jack Parkman on May 28, 2018, 09:38:04 am
Not much talk in here about the WS but it's obvious that UT Tyler and Concordia are sitting pretty.  Some of my thoughts...

- What a disappointing showing by Wooster.  Coming into the WS they had a .353 team BA and they could only muster 5 runs on 13 hits over their 2 games.
- Another 0-2 for Oswego but they lost to 2 very good teams.
- It seems there is a lot more power in this years field than last year.  It also seems like the pitching and defense has been lackluster.
- Tyler reminds me of last years Cal Lu team....hot at the right time and doing the little things to get the job done.
- Great weather
- It's the University of Texas at Tyler, not Tyler-Texas as the play by play guys keep calling them.

I would be shocked if both pods weren't wrapped up tonight. Maybe one day the field will allow for more rest.  I know it's D3 and the money is short, but it really sucks that they try and get this tournament wrapped up as quick as possible.

Well, looks like I could not have been more wrong.  Going to be a few really good games today with a lot of guys leaving it all out on the field.
Title: Re: 2018 D-III World Series
Post by: TexasBB on May 28, 2018, 04:26:22 pm
Alex Masotto strikes out the side in the bottom of the 9th to preserve the UTT win 8-6.  Interesting UTT used two relief pitchers one from Canada and one from New York to get the victory.  They obviously are drawing talent from outside of Texas.
Title: Re: 2018 D-III World Series
Post by: Ralph Turner on May 28, 2018, 07:55:34 pm
TLU 5,  Concordia Chicago 4.

This is the first time in the history of D-3 (42 national championships) for the 2 finalists to come from the same region!

The West Region will have won 4 of the last 6 National Championships.



Correction. I am sorry for overlooking this game.

Marietta beat Otterbein in 1983 by the score of 36-8.

http://www.d3baseball.com/playoffs/all-time

Same state, same region (I presume), and same conference (the OAC).

Here is the pdf for the history of the OAC. 

http://www.oac.org/information/History/OAC_HISTORY_2012__3_.pdf
Title: Re: 2018 D-III World Series
Post by: TexasBB on May 28, 2018, 08:04:29 pm
Absolutely incredible! Neither TLU or UTT were ranked very high as they were the 5th and 6th seeded teams. UTT was nowhere to be found in the top 25 and yet had to defeat several ranked teams including the #1 ranked team in the regionals and #5 ranked team in the World Series. Likewise TLU was not a favorite in the west regional and yet beat out higher seeded teams at both the regional and the world series. These two teams played each other seems like an eternity ago, UTT had a 3 game sweep of TLU on TLUs home field. That means nothing now as both teams are totally different than they were in the early spring.
Title: Re: 2018 D-III World Series
Post by: AllStar on May 28, 2018, 08:20:19 pm
Two left!  Congratulations to Texas-Tyler and Texas Lutheran.
(https://i.imgur.com/B8i6MH8.png)
Title: Re: 2018 D-III World Series
Post by: Jack Parkman on May 28, 2018, 08:41:33 pm

The West Region will have won 4 of the last 6 National Championships.

If UT-Tyler wins it that would be a title from each of the 4 Western conferences.  That is some serious talent coming from the West!
Title: Re: 2018 D-III World Series
Post by: Purple Heys on May 28, 2018, 09:07:27 pm
Announcers talked about the shift south of teams winning the CWS in D1 and D2, noting that the same trend looks to be reaching D3 as teams like Cortland State and UW-W aren’t advancing in favor of teams from more southern climes.  Went on to point out Cal Lu and Trinity winning the last 2 as demonstration of the trend.

I say take a day and move these games to The Depot, or Air Hogs Stadium so you can get a crowded stadium and get some noise!
Title: Re: 2018 D-III World Series
Post by: Bmo on May 28, 2018, 09:22:41 pm
Next year, the new super-regional format will solve this problem for the rest of the country.  I expect to see the west region funneled into two, three-team regionals (Texas and West Coast sub-regionals).  The winners will play for the right to a world series berth.  No more moving strong west teams in to other regions and the chance of two west teams playing for the championship.  Good thing it happened while it still could..
Title: Re: 2018 D-III World Series
Post by: Ralph Turner on May 28, 2018, 09:52:08 pm
I cannot remember which coach in the Post Game interview mentioned the strengths of the teams in the West.  I believe that it was Coach Burnett (from TLU after the all-West  finalists in the Championship were locked in) who commented that 3 teams from the SCAC and 3 or 4 teams from the ASC could have done this.

Please read my preview of the Spokane Regional.  All 4 Pool A bids were earned by the #3 seed in the respective tourneys!  Willamette was my darkhorse for the Spokane Regional.

http://www.d3baseball.com/playoffs/2018/previews/west-regional-playoff-preview
Title: Re: 2018 D-III World Series
Post by: Purple Heys on May 29, 2018, 12:50:18 am
I cannot remember which coach in the Post Game interview mentioned the strengths of the teams in the West.  I believe that it was Coach Burnett (from TLU after the all-West  finalists in the Championship were locked in) who commented that 3 teams from the SCAC and 3 or 4 teams from the ASC could have done this.

Please read my preview of the Spokane Regional.  All 4 Pool A bids were earned by the #3 seed in the respective tourneys!  Willamette was my darkhorse for the Spokane Regional.

http://www.d3baseball.com/playoffs/2018/previews/west-regional-playoff-preview

Another concept to ponder is how many West region teams could have won the auto bid in some of these conferences, that were squeezed out of a playoff chance by not qualifying for the 4 team conference tourney.
Title: Re: 2018 D-III World Series
Post by: Ralph Turner on May 29, 2018, 07:14:21 am
#7 Hardin Simmons beat host #2 SRSU in the first game in the sub-bracket of the 8 team tourney.  Go figure!
Title: Re: 2018 D-III World Series
Post by: Ralph Turner on May 29, 2018, 12:57:49 pm
UT-Tyler finished fourth in ASC standings in the regular season (15-9 and 3 GB Concordia Texas at 18-6).

In Trinity's championship year (2016), TLU beat Trinity 2 of 3 to finish the conference season at 14-4 and reign with Trinity as regular season co-champions.

I noted above that all 4 Pool A bids in the West Region conferences went to #3 seeds in the regular season.

Specifically in the West, you can make the case that the regular season is when you develop the depth of the squad to make it through the conference tourney, the Regionals, (next year the Super Regionals) and then the National Championship.


The West Region in baseball reminds me of the Central Region in Men's basketball (with the CCIW, WIAC and Wash St L).
Title: Re: 2018 D-III World Series
Post by: TexasBB on May 29, 2018, 01:39:01 pm
UTT was able to start Simon Sedillo and has jumped out to a big 8-1 lead.  TLU is deep into its bullpen already. Sedillo is working on 3 days rest.
Title: Re: 2018 D-III World Series
Post by: TexasBB on May 29, 2018, 02:31:40 pm
Tyler won the first game 8-1 getting a complete game from Sedillo. I note that TLU's starter Malinovisk who was 12-2 on the season only worked the 1st inning then was replaced.
Title: Re: 2018 D-III World Series
Post by: Jack Parkman on May 29, 2018, 02:59:08 pm
Tyler won the first game 8-1 getting a complete game from Sedillo. I note that TLU's starter Malinovisk who was 12-2 on the season only worked the 1st inning then was replaced.

I have a feeling he didn't have it due to the short rest. He threw a lot of pitches on Friday night and coming back on 3 days is tough.
Title: Re: 2018 D-III World Series
Post by: Ralph Turner on May 29, 2018, 03:20:35 pm
Tyler won the first game 8-1 getting a complete game from Sedillo. I note that TLU's starter Malinovisk who was 12-2 on the season only worked the 1st inning then was replaced.

I have a feeling he didn't have it due to the short rest. He threw a lot of pitches on Friday night and coming back on 3 days is tough.
In the post game interview after Malinovsky's win on Friday, Coach Burnett said that he would not jeopardize Malinovsky's pro prospects.
Title: Re: 2018 D-III World Series
Post by: Just_Some_Guy on May 29, 2018, 05:31:24 pm
Tyler won the first game 8-1 getting a complete game from Sedillo. I note that TLU's starter Malinovisk who was 12-2 on the season only worked the 1st inning then was replaced.

I have a feeling he didn't have it due to the short rest. He threw a lot of pitches on Friday night and coming back on 3 days is tough.

I won't speculate re: injury or "having it," but I don't think he'd gone on *less* than 6 days rest all season.

[That isn't to say, "Oh, TLU would've won." UTT had previously handed Malinovsky one of his two losses; albeit all four runs were unearned.]

UTT is, obviously, under the same circumstances as TLU, but it would be nice to get at least one day off in between the bracket games and the best of 3.

UTT was able to get solid innings from their best two SPs, Sedillo and Cheatham; whereas, TLU was pretty far down the bullpen. They did get 6 innings of 1 ER baseball in game 1 from Cody Rimko who hadn't thrown an inning prior to the World Series.

Very, very cool to see two West Region Texas teams fight and claw their respective way through these late season tournaments (conf, regional, WS).

JSG
Title: Re: 2018 D-III World Series
Post by: TexasBB on May 29, 2018, 06:02:03 pm
UT Tyler was truly a Cinderella story. 5 elimination games and trailing in the 9th to win the Central.  Then facing another elimination game in the 1st bracket in the World Series. Can't say enough about their tenacity. There have been teams at UTT that on paper were much better than this team. However, in the past they just did not get it done. This team had more losses than you would expect from a champion caliber team and were not anywhere in the top 25 at the end of the season. Yet they finished on top.   
Title: Re: 2018 D-III World Series
Post by: 108 Stitches on May 29, 2018, 06:44:04 pm
....and were not anywhere in the top 25 at the end of the season. .   

They are now! Congrats to the players, coaches and families. Well done.
Nice to have the championship trophy back in Texas.
Title: Re: 2018 D-III World Series
Post by: AllStar on May 29, 2018, 07:01:09 pm
Congratulations Texas-Tyler!
(https://i.imgur.com/0JSmeKq.png)
Title: Re: 2018 D-III World Series
Post by: Jack Parkman on May 29, 2018, 09:44:03 pm
Very entertaining World Series and a huge congrats to UT Tyler.  That makes 4 of the last 6 titles going to the West and each conference in the West Region has won a title.  Very cool stuff and I hope the success continues.

One question I do have...with Tyler going D2, are they out of the ASC and D3 playoff contention next year, or does that grace period keep them eligible for the ASC tourney and D3 tourney?  If they are completely done with D3, that is a hell of a way to go out.
Title: Re: 2018 D-III World Series
Post by: TexasBB on May 30, 2018, 09:34:54 am
Unfortunately but not surprising - not even one line in the Dallas Morning News about UTT this morning. They did find space to print a small line about Oklahoma State's men's golf team making the finals. Not even a Texas School!  :'( UTT  is only 2 hours east of Dallas and lot of its players and student body come from the DFW area. 
Title: Re: 2018 D-III World Series
Post by: Ralph Turner on May 30, 2018, 11:35:01 am
I hope that all the friends and family of UTT (and every other D3 player) seek coverage from the d3baseball.com website.

Tell your friends.
Title: Re: 2018 D-III World Series
Post by: Pat Coleman on May 30, 2018, 06:57:50 pm
Next year, the new super-regional format will solve this problem for the rest of the country.  I expect to see the west region funneled into two, three-team regionals (Texas and West Coast sub-regionals).  The winners will play for the right to a world series berth.  No more moving strong west teams in to other regions and the chance of two west teams playing for the championship.  Good thing it happened while it still could..

Doesn't sound like there will be three-team regionals. They'll do two-team regionals, which will be best-of-five series.
Title: Re: 2018 D-III World Series
Post by: Jack Parkman on May 30, 2018, 09:30:47 pm
Next year, the new super-regional format will solve this problem for the rest of the country.  I expect to see the west region funneled into two, three-team regionals (Texas and West Coast sub-regionals).  The winners will play for the right to a world series berth.  No more moving strong west teams in to other regions and the chance of two west teams playing for the championship.  Good thing it happened while it still could..

Doesn't sound like there will be three-team regionals. They'll do two-team regionals, which will be best-of-five series.

The West Regional was 2 teams before the NWC was D3.  I know Cal Lu played a 2-team Regional from '92 to '97 and the '98 Regional was the first one with more than 2 teams.
Title: Re: 2018 D-III World Series
Post by: Ralph Turner on May 30, 2018, 09:54:59 pm
Next year, the new super-regional format will solve this problem for the rest of the country.  I expect to see the west region funneled into two, three-team regionals (Texas and West Coast sub-regionals).  The winners will play for the right to a world series berth.  No more moving strong west teams in to other regions and the chance of two west teams playing for the championship.  Good thing it happened while it still could..

Doesn't sound like there will be three-team regionals. They'll do two-team regionals, which will be best-of-five series.

The West Regional was 2 teams before the NWC was D3.  I know Cal Lu played a 2-team Regional from '92 to '97 and the '98 Regional was the first one with more than 2 teams.
...and the ASC. Trinity and Southwestern were West Region teams in the South and Mideast (multi-region) SCAC.

Other D3 teams were Cal State East Bay and Menlo.
Title: Re: 2018 D-III World Series
Post by: Bmo on May 31, 2018, 11:57:16 am
Next year, the new super-regional format will solve this problem for the rest of the country.  I expect to see the west region funneled into two, three-team regionals (Texas and West Coast sub-regionals).  The winners will play for the right to a world series berth.  No more moving strong west teams in to other regions and the chance of two west teams playing for the championship.  Good thing it happened while it still could..

Doesn't sound like there will be three-team regionals. They'll do two-team regionals, which will be best-of-five series.

The possibility of two team regionals makes things even worse for the west.  So in that instance, the ideal case for the budget conscious NCAA, you will see the NWC/SCIAC and ASC/SCAC champs both in two team regionals, with the winners playing in the super regional (requiring only 2 total flights). 

With the current 6 team regional, you had to expect at least 3 fly-ins into the West, no matter where it was hosted.  Also, the ability to bus in a "bubble" pool c team to the west regional, might have played in the local team's favor in the "unwritten" national evaluation criteria,  budgetary impact. 

Pool C's in the west are going to have to have a very compelling resume to justify those additional flights needed to expand the two 2 team regionals to a 2 and 4 team regional.  Additionally, It seems unlikely that you would see the two west subregional winners matched up with any other region, as that would create the need for an additional flight. 

I can't envision a way that you will see two west teams in the WS again with this new format.
Title: Re: 2018 D-III World Series
Post by: Ralph Turner on May 31, 2018, 12:27:56 pm
Next year, the new super-regional format will solve this problem for the rest of the country.  I expect to see the west region funneled into two, three-team regionals (Texas and West Coast sub-regionals).  The winners will play for the right to a world series berth.  No more moving strong west teams in to other regions and the chance of two west teams playing for the championship.  Good thing it happened while it still could..

Doesn't sound like there will be three-team regionals. They'll do two-team regionals, which will be best-of-five series.

The possibility of two team regionals makes things even worse for the west.  So in that instance, the ideal case for the budget conscious NCAA, you will see the NWC/SCIAC and ASC/SCAC champs both in two team regionals, with the winners playing in the super regional (requiring only 2 total flights). 

With the current 6 team regional, you had to expect at least 3 fly-ins into the West, no matter where it was hosted.  Also, the ability to bus in a "bubble" pool c team to the west regional, might have played in the local team's favor in the "unwritten" national evaluation criteria,  budgetary impact. 

Pool C's in the west are going to have to have a very compelling resume to justify those additional flights needed to expand the two 2 team regionals to a 2 and 4 team regional.  Additionally, It seems unlikely that you would see the two west subregional winners matched up with any other region, as that would create the need for an additional flight. 

I can't envision a way that you will see two west teams in the WS again with this new format.
As delighted as I was to see UT-Tyler moved to the Central, I also share your concern.  There are times when I thought that the geography worked for a worthy Pool C bubble team, just as there were years when the geography may not have worked. (I have followed D3 baseball since the early 2000's).  The quality of teams in D3 now is so consistent at the top that the 16th Pool C bid is as much luck as anything. The D3baseball.com mock selection did not have UT-Tyler in the field.

Look at how the D3 baseball.com Week #12 Top 25 performed.

 http://www.d3boards.com/index.php?topic=7917.msg1871234#msg1871234

I am not decrying the use of polls. It helps the fan stay abreast of the changes in the division across the country. It makes the season more fun. On the other hand, to quote a familiar voice in the D3 family, we do have more upsets than March Madness.

I am sad to lose UT-Tyler as a host venue for D-3 (even when they don't get the tarp on the field as for the finals of the 2017 Regional) because Rhodes and Millsaps could be bussed here.  If Centenary LA wants to host, then that is a venue where we can pick up some non-West Region schools.
Title: Re: 2018 D-III World Series
Post by: BigPoppa on May 31, 2018, 01:29:25 pm
ANY chance they expand to 64 teams with 16 four-team regionals?
Title: Re: 2018 D-III World Series
Post by: Jack Parkman on May 31, 2018, 02:54:18 pm
ANY chance they expand to 64 teams with 16 four-team regionals?

Do you think the NCAA is made out of money? ::)  (This is being typed as I look at twitter and see D1 teams flying across the country for a regional, and flying on charters.)
Title: Re: 2018 D-III World Series
Post by: Ralph Turner on May 31, 2018, 03:15:04 pm
ANY chance they expand to 64 teams with 16 four-team regionals?
... (1) another 39 teams add baseball or,
(2) the NCAA will change the access ratio to 1 bid for every five teams capped at 64.
Title: Re: 2018 D-III World Series
Post by: Pat Coleman on May 31, 2018, 03:16:46 pm
Next year, the new super-regional format will solve this problem for the rest of the country.  I expect to see the west region funneled into two, three-team regionals (Texas and West Coast sub-regionals).  The winners will play for the right to a world series berth.  No more moving strong west teams in to other regions and the chance of two west teams playing for the championship.  Good thing it happened while it still could..

Doesn't sound like there will be three-team regionals. They'll do two-team regionals, which will be best-of-five series.

The possibility of two team regionals makes things even worse for the west.  So in that instance, the ideal case for the budget conscious NCAA, you will see the NWC/SCIAC and ASC/SCAC champs both in two team regionals, with the winners playing in the super regional (requiring only 2 total flights). 

With the current 6 team regional, you had to expect at least 3 fly-ins into the West, no matter where it was hosted.  Also, the ability to bus in a "bubble" pool c team to the west regional, might have played in the local team's favor in the "unwritten" national evaluation criteria,  budgetary impact. 

Pool C's in the west are going to have to have a very compelling resume to justify those additional flights needed to expand the two 2 team regionals to a 2 and 4 team regional.  Additionally, It seems unlikely that you would see the two west subregional winners matched up with any other region, as that would create the need for an additional flight. 

I can't envision a way that you will see two west teams in the WS again with this new format.
As delighted as I was to see UT-Tyler moved to the Central, I also share your concern.  There are times when I thought that the geography worked for a worthy Pool C bubble team, just as there were years when the geography may not have worked. (I have followed D3 baseball since the early 2000's).  The quality of teams in D3 now is so consistent at the top that the 16th Pool C bid is as much luck as anything. The D3baseball.com mock selection did not have UT-Tyler in the field.

Look at how the D3 baseball.com Week #12 Top 25 performed.

 http://www.d3boards.com/index.php?topic=7917.msg1871234#msg1871234

I am not decrying the use of polls. It helps the fan stay abreast of the changes in the division across the country. It makes the season more fun. On the other hand, to quote a familiar voice in the D3 family, we do have more upsets than March Madness.

I am sad to lose UT-Tyler as a host venue for D-3 (even when they don't get the tarp on the field as for the finals of the 2017 Regional) because Rhodes and Millsaps could be bussed here.  If Centenary LA wants to host, then that is a venue where we can pick up some non-West Region schools.

In a four-team regional, there will be less of an issue finding hosts. It's a big undertaking to host a six-team or eight-team regional, but hosting a four-team regional is a much smaller burden on a D-III athletic department.
Title: Re: 2018 D-III World Series
Post by: Purple Heys on June 01, 2018, 03:56:39 pm
ANY chance they expand to 64 teams with 16 four-team regionals?
... (1) another 39 teams add baseball or,
(2) the NCAA will change the access ratio to 1 bid for every five teams capped at 64.

Make that 40 teams with UT-T heading to D2...
Title: Re: 2018 D-III World Series
Post by: Purple Heys on June 01, 2018, 04:05:10 pm
Next year, the new super-regional format will solve this problem for the rest of the country.  I expect to see the west region funneled into two, three-team regionals (Texas and West Coast sub-regionals).  The winners will play for the right to a world series berth.  No more moving strong west teams in to other regions and the chance of two west teams playing for the championship.  Good thing it happened while it still could..

Doesn't sound like there will be three-team regionals. They'll do two-team regionals, which will be best-of-five series.

The possibility of two team regionals makes things even worse for the west.  Period.

Better West Region teams - more than happens now - will get left out for non-competitive reasons.  Primary reason: NCAA penny pinching.

I wonder if the leagues would expand their own league tournaments, probably not because that leaves open the possibility of more upsets and burns more pitching.
Title: Re: 2018 D-III World Series
Post by: Purple Heys on June 01, 2018, 04:08:07 pm
With the West Region winning the last 3, and 4 of the last 6...can we finally retire that annual screed of West Region teams not having the pitching alignment to handle the game volume in reduced time frames?
Title: Re: 2018 D-III World Series
Post by: TexasBB on June 02, 2018, 03:13:07 pm
The difference this year was that UTT had a very durable starting group. They may not have been as dominant as TLU but were effective. They got a lot of innings out of their top 3 starters at both the regional and World Series. That turned out to be the difference as TLU top 2 starters were not as durable and they were forced into their bullpen more. UTT top 2 starters threw complete games and then came back on 3 days rest and pitched deep into those games. TLU was not that fortunate.
Title: Re: 2018 D-III World Series
Post by: Ralph Turner on June 02, 2018, 08:51:56 pm
The difference this year was that UTT had a very durable starting group. They may not have been as dominant as TLU but were effective. They got a lot of innings out of their top 3 starters at both the regional and World Series. That turned out to be the difference as TLU top 2 starters were not as durable and they were forced into their bullpen more. UTT top 2 starters threw complete games and then came back on 3 days rest and pitched deep into those games. TLU was not that fortunate.
... which is how Cal Lu did it last year.  I will let the Trinity fans comment on 2016.