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Re: FB: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
« Reply #45240 on: May 06, 2019, 10:52:22 am »
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Somehow I doubt it. NSCRO is club rugby. The NCAA doesn't sponsor collegiate rugby. It all falls under USA Rugby and various sub organizations affiliated with USA Rugby like NSCRO. The whole thing is pretty confusing, but UWW won a second tier Rugby 7s championship recently. Maybe a few years ago? And other DIII schools like Claremont, Occidental, Coast Guard, Middlebury and Salsibury have all won various titles at various levels by different organizations.

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Re: FB: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
« Reply #45241 on: May 17, 2019, 11:33:00 am »
Hey WIACers, if yall's ears are ringing, it's because we're being talked about plenty on the MIAC board. Seems they want to toss St. Thomas for being too good, and many have suggested the WIAC as a likely new home for the Tommies. Further burgeoning the case is WIAC Commissioner Gary Karner saying that WIAC is open to discussion with schools outside the UW system for full and affiliate membership (the latter of which occurs in several sports).

Me, I can't see it. WIAC is a brand extension of the UW system. But I'm old, and still don't get how the Big 10 can have 14 members, one of which is Rutgers (!).

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Re: FB: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
« Reply #45242 on: May 17, 2019, 12:16:27 pm »
Hey WIACers, if yall's ears are ringing, it's because we're being talked about plenty on the MIAC board. Seems they want to toss St. Thomas for being too good, and many have suggested the WIAC as a likely new home for the Tommies. Further burgeoning the case is WIAC Commissioner Gary Karner saying that WIAC is open to discussion with schools outside the UW system for full and affiliate membership (the latter of which occurs in several sports).

Me, I can't see it. WIAC is a brand extension of the UW system. But I'm old, and still don't get how the Big 10 can have 14 members, one of which is Rutgers (!).

I think there has been a void in the conference since Superior left. I'd be all for it. I haven't looked at their entire portfolio, but I think they would be very competitive in a lot of sports. It would help for scheduling in football and for scheduling and automatic qualifiers in other sports (baseball, hockey, etc). It would hurt some recruiting (UWRF recruits Minnesota pretty hard), but kids looking for public education would still lean toward RF. Do others see negatives?

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Re: FB: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
« Reply #45243 on: May 18, 2019, 08:33:02 am »
Hey WIACers, if yall's ears are ringing, it's because we're being talked about plenty on the MIAC board. Seems they want to toss St. Thomas for being too good, and many have suggested the WIAC as a likely new home for the Tommies. Further burgeoning the case is WIAC Commissioner Gary Karner saying that WIAC is open to discussion with schools outside the UW system for full and affiliate membership (the latter of which occurs in several sports).

Me, I can't see it. WIAC is a brand extension of the UW system. But I'm old, and still don't get how the Big 10 can have 14 members, one of which is Rutgers (!).

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Re: FB: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
« Reply #45244 on: May 18, 2019, 09:01:28 am »
It would be some what ironic if STU ended up in the WIAC and were forced to play us considering we've been trying to schedule them in football for some time and they've been unwilling. 
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Re: FB: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
« Reply #45245 on: May 18, 2019, 03:25:55 pm »


Me, I can't see it. WIAC is a brand extension of the UW system. But I'm old, and still don't get how the Big 10 can have 14 members, one of which is Rutgers (!).

The old WWIAC used to have Marquette, Carthage, Carroll and Ripon ... Yes, that can be considered ancient history when it comes to women's sports, but wouldn't be unprecedented in Wisconsin

And while auxiliary members are certainly different, the WIAC has included Lawrence, Gustavus, Hamline, Finlandia  - and will soon have Northland.
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Re: FB: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
« Reply #45246 on: May 21, 2019, 11:42:42 am »
Let's contemplate this schedule for a second:
UST in the WIAC with out of conference matchups against St John's AND Bethel. While the alums focus on Tommie-Johnnie, the football program for years has indicated that the true biggest rivalry on the schedule is Bethel.

I'm not sure that both St John's and Bethel could stay on the schedule if we moved conferences, but it's fun to think about. Those 2 plus Whitewater, Oshkosh, Platteville, an improving LaCrosse. UST could end up with 5 losses with that schedule.

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Re: FB: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
« Reply #45247 on: May 22, 2019, 12:59:08 pm »
I find the whole situation sad. Can't compete with them.....boot them out.

Pathetic move by the MIAC. Huge black eye for them IMO.

I can hear the OAC laughing from here.


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Re: FB: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
« Reply #45248 on: May 22, 2019, 02:04:33 pm »
If they stay D3, looks like either the WIAC or the IIAC would be the options. Did see some talk on the MIAC board, they may try to petition to make a straight jump to D1. Financially, jumping to D2 or D1 would be astronomical I would think. I'm sure they have some well off donors, but that seems like a pretty big jump.

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Re: FB: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
« Reply #45249 on: May 22, 2019, 02:05:36 pm »
Welcome to the board.

I don't think the ARC would reject St. Thomas out of hand, but it is a lot of travel. It took a long time for the league to come around to accepting Nebraska Wesleyan.
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Re: FB: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
« Reply #45250 on: May 22, 2019, 06:36:34 pm »
I had posted the following on the MIAC board earlier today, but it may not have been taken as intended, given the more serious stuff they are dealing with.

"There may be unintended consequences w the idea of the WIAC amending rules to allow St. Thomas in. Wed end up w a conference that is home to three teams to have reached the Stagg Bowl in the last ten years-surely the Pool C rules would need to be amended."

My intent isn't to claim WIAC greatness. My point is, the discussion to change the playoff selection process that happens every year will be even more intense for the WIAC as it's likely one or two very capable teams will be left out. 

   

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Re: FB: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
« Reply #45251 on: May 22, 2019, 06:41:32 pm »
I had posted the following on the MIAC board earlier today, but it may not have been taken as intended, given the more serious stuff they are dealing with.

"There may be unintended consequences w the idea of the WIAC amending rules to allow St. Thomas in. Wed end up w a conference that is home to three teams to have reached the Stagg Bowl in the last ten years-surely the Pool C rules would need to be amended."

My intent isn't to claim WIAC greatness. My point is, the discussion to change the playoff selection process that happens every year will be even more intense for the WIAC as it's likely one or two very capable teams will be left out. 

On the flipside, the MIAC wouldn't be an automatic 2-bid league anymore. And WIAC+UST would be a bloodbath on an annual basis (even moreso than it already is in the WIAC). Truly week in week out. My dream would be for UST to move to WIAC (reasonable drives for some away games, solid matchups for home games) and schedule SJU and Bethel OOC.

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Re: FB: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
« Reply #45252 on: May 22, 2019, 06:50:06 pm »
I find the whole situation sad. Can't compete with them.....boot them out.

Pathetic move by the MIAC. Huge black eye for them IMO.

I can hear the OAC laughing from here.

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Re: FB: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
« Reply #45253 on: May 28, 2019, 11:58:56 am »
With all the talk about St. Thomas joining the WIAC it would leave the league with 9 teams which could cause scheduling problems especially after other schools start their conference play. Here is my solution. Have Parkside drop from D2 to D3 and with the money they now use for scholarships start a football program. Then split the WIAC into 2 divisions North and South
North
Eau Claire
River Falls
St. Thomas
Stevens Point
Stout
South
La Crosse
Oshkosh
Parkside
Platteville
Whitewater
Play each school in your division plus cross over games and one NC game. You could have a championship game or see if the NCAA would let each division winner in the playoffs. Or Superior could come back to the WIAC and restart football. I know this will never happen and it would cause some gender equity problems for Parkside if it were to start a football program. But this is what happens when after a 3day weekend I'm back at my office with nothing to do.

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Re: FB: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
« Reply #45254 on: May 28, 2019, 12:59:25 pm »
With all the talk about St. Thomas joining the WIAC it would leave the league with 9 teams which could cause scheduling problems especially after other schools start their conference play. Here is my solution. Have Parkside drop from D2 to D3 and with the money they now use for scholarships start a football program. Then split the WIAC into 2 divisions North and South
North
Eau Claire
River Falls
St. Thomas
Stevens Point
Stout
South
La Crosse
Oshkosh
Parkside
Platteville
Whitewater
Play each school in your division plus cross over games and one NC game. You could have a championship game or see if the NCAA would let each division winner in the playoffs. Or Superior could come back to the WIAC and restart football. I know this will never happen and it would cause some gender equity problems for Parkside if it were to start a football program. But this is what happens when after a 3day weekend I'm back at my office with nothing to do.

Instead, I'd almost rather try and convince St. Thomas to bring either St. John's or Bethel along, add them to the North along with St. Thomas and drop UWSP down in the South. Will be interesting to say the least how this thing all plays out. If St. Thomas wants to stay D3, they will need to hope the WIAC or ARC is willing to bring them in. Though, the source that I have has mentioned the AD's from the WIAC seem to be open to the idea, there does seem to be some concerns with the idea of bringing private school St. Thomas into a conference of all public schools. It may come down with how bad St. Thomas wants to keep their St. John's rivalry. They want it to keep it, they stay D3, otherwise they make a jump up to D2. Just my .02 worth.