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Re: Top 25 talk
« Reply #12345 on: March 17, 2019, 01:05:53 am »
Now that Wheaton has lost, the question really doesn't need to be asked, but I'll ask it anyway for fun.

If Wheaton beat Swarthmore for the national championship, what final ranking would they end up as?

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Re: Top 25 talk
« Reply #12346 on: March 17, 2019, 09:31:37 am »

When you go back and look at scheduled, by the time a team has reached the championship game, they've beaten an array of teams that just can't compare to someone, even someone really good, who loses the first weekend.  I doubt Wheaton will be in my top four, but I haven't started looking yet, so you never know.  Oshkosh will definitely be #1, though.
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Re: Top 25 talk
« Reply #12347 on: March 17, 2019, 09:36:45 am »
One of the more interesting things that Mike Schauer said in the Wheaton postgame press conference on Friday night -- and Mike always says interesting things when you put a microphone in front of him -- was that the semifinal against UW-Oshkosh was the eighth game that Wheaton played this season against the three teams ranked atop the Central Region by the committee (Augie and North Central three times each, UWO twice). That's a quarter of all the games that Wheaton played this season, which is pretty amazing.
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Re: Top 25 talk
« Reply #12348 on: March 17, 2019, 03:10:13 pm »
One of the more interesting things that Mike Schauer said in the Wheaton postgame press conference on Friday night -- and Mike always says interesting things when you put a microphone in front of him -- was that the semifinal against UW-Oshkosh was the eighth game that Wheaton played this season against the three teams ranked atop the Central Region by the committee (Augie and North Central three times each, UWO twice). That's a quarter of all the games that Wheaton played this season, which is pretty amazing.
Wheaton went 3-5 against that group, beating each team once.

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Re: Top 25 talk
« Reply #12349 on: March 17, 2019, 05:34:35 pm »
One of the more interesting things that Mike Schauer said in the Wheaton postgame press conference on Friday night -- and Mike always says interesting things when you put a microphone in front of him -- was that the semifinal against UW-Oshkosh was the eighth game that Wheaton played this season against the three teams ranked atop the Central Region by the committee (Augie and North Central three times each, UWO twice). That's a quarter of all the games that Wheaton played this season, which is pretty amazing.
Wheaton went 3-5 against that group, beating each team once.

In the 3 wins Aston Francis averaged 42.3 PPG.
In the 5 losses he averaged 31.8 PPG.

Will WC be ranked above Augie and North Central both of which beat them 2 out of 3?
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Re: Top 25 talk
« Reply #12350 on: March 17, 2019, 07:27:13 pm »
One of the more interesting things that Mike Schauer said in the Wheaton postgame press conference on Friday night -- and Mike always says interesting things when you put a microphone in front of him -- was that the semifinal against UW-Oshkosh was the eighth game that Wheaton played this season against the three teams ranked atop the Central Region by the committee (Augie and North Central three times each, UWO twice). That's a quarter of all the games that Wheaton played this season, which is pretty amazing.
Wheaton went 3-5 against that group, beating each team once.

In the 3 wins Aston Francis averaged 42.3 PPG.
In the 5 losses he averaged 31.8 PPG.

Will WC be ranked above Augie and North Central both of which beat them 2 out of 3?

Possibly. Beat ranked Wooster, Augie and Marietta.
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Re: Top 25 talk
« Reply #12351 on: March 17, 2019, 08:10:29 pm »
One of the more interesting things that Mike Schauer said in the Wheaton postgame press conference on Friday night -- and Mike always says interesting things when you put a microphone in front of him -- was that the semifinal against UW-Oshkosh was the eighth game that Wheaton played this season against the three teams ranked atop the Central Region by the committee (Augie and North Central three times each, UWO twice). That's a quarter of all the games that Wheaton played this season, which is pretty amazing.
Wheaton went 3-5 against that group, beating each team once.

In the 3 wins Aston Francis averaged 42.3 PPG.
In the 5 losses he averaged 31.8 PPG.

Will WC be ranked above Augie and North Central both of which beat them 2 out of 3?

Possibly. Beat ranked Wooster, Augie and Marietta.

My guess is above NCC, below Augie.  But just a guess.  I could argue ANY order of the three.

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Re: Top 25 talk
« Reply #12352 on: March 18, 2019, 06:30:14 am »
One of the more interesting things that Mike Schauer said in the Wheaton postgame press conference on Friday night -- and Mike always says interesting things when you put a microphone in front of him -- was that the semifinal against UW-Oshkosh was the eighth game that Wheaton played this season against the three teams ranked atop the Central Region by the committee (Augie and North Central three times each, UWO twice). That's a quarter of all the games that Wheaton played this season, which is pretty amazing.
Wheaton went 3-5 against that group, beating each team once.

In the 3 wins Aston Francis averaged 42.3 PPG.
In the 5 losses he averaged 31.8 PPG.

Will WC be ranked above Augie and North Central both of which beat them 2 out of 3?

Possibly. Beat ranked Wooster, Augie and Marietta.

My guess is above NCC, below Augie.  But just a guess.  I could argue ANY order of the three.

That's where I ended up.  For a while I had NCC as the best, since they were 2-1 against both Augie and Wheaton, but the other losses on the schedule (especially the loss to Loras) kept me from making my decision so CCIW dependent.  Three great teams regardless.
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Re: Top 25 talk
« Reply #12353 on: March 18, 2019, 10:05:14 pm »
Hey... didn't Dave promise an early preseason top 25 before the weekend was over in one of the Live Fort Wayne shows? ??? ;D

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Re: Top 25 talk
« Reply #12354 on: March 19, 2019, 06:28:46 am »
Hey... didn't Dave promise an early preseason top 25 before the weekend was over in one of the Live Fort Wayne shows? ??? ;D

I think it was an early preseason All-American list.
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Re: Top 25 talk
« Reply #12355 on: March 19, 2019, 01:18:26 pm »
Hey... didn't Dave promise an early preseason top 25 before the weekend was over in one of the Live Fort Wayne shows? ??? ;D

No ... I said I might have to start working on my preseason Top 25 while I had the data fresh in my head. :)

There was also talk in the same vein about preseason all-America selections.

And then continued to joke about how some entities do that in D1 once everything is done and how it is called the "way too early" stuff.
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Re: Top 25 talk
« Reply #12356 on: March 19, 2019, 01:25:00 pm »
Kind of like how we'll already be drafting teams and players for next year's tournament?  ::) 12 of my 16 players I drafted last year at this time did make this year's tournament!
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Re: Top 25 talk
« Reply #12357 on: March 19, 2019, 07:52:19 pm »
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Re: Top 25 talk
« Reply #12358 on: March 19, 2019, 08:13:10 pm »
* = preseason poll

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   NWU*      8501      431      621      621      618      616      595      625      625      625      625      625      625      625      624   
   Augustana*      7717      471      543      576      555      548      607      591      580      567      563      558      546      473      539   
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   RMC      4380      423      490      526      510      456      392      320      221      186      202      175      288      191      0   
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   St Thomas*      3669      343      329      417      476      531      510      463      335      196      40      3      2      1      23   
   St John's*      3365      117      417      376      300      244      327      319      440      318      186      128      70      46      77   
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   CNU*      3100      549      414      359      329      257      196      234      163      131      196      123      49      94      6   
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   Amherst*      2187      322      438      312      335      181      89      144      40      92      18      37      99      44      36   
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   Whitewater*      1825      0      0      0      0      0      0      25      107      243      401      372      338      258      81   
   Loras*      1678      267      152      191      147      90      0      99      61      89      180      125      85      175      17   
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   JHU*      286      2      0      0      0      0      0      0      0      8      14      14      20      22      206   
   Linfield      207      0      0      1      0      0      179      5      4      18      0      0      0      0      0   
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   Nazareth*      92      0      0      0      0      0      0      0      0      0      0      0      0      32      60   
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« Reply #12359 on: March 19, 2019, 08:14:00 pm »
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   WPI      61      0      0      0      0      0      2      0      0      0      29      15      10      5      0   
   Montclair St*      60      0      0      0      0      0      0      0      0      1      11      8      25      6      9   
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   Aurora*      28      0      0      0      0      0      0      0      0      0      0      0      0      9      19   
   Rowan      26      9      17      0      0      0      0      0      0      0      0      0      0      0      0   
   E Conn*      25      0      0      0      0      0      2      6      0      0      0      0      9      0      8   
   Wash U*      20      0      0      0      0      0      0      0      0      0      0      0      0      0      20   
   Texas-Dallas      16      0      15      1      0      0      0      0      0      0      0      0      0      0      0   
   Cabrini*      14      0      0      0      0      0      0      0      0      0      0      0      0      0      14   
   F&M*      14      0      0      0      0      0      0      0      0      0      0      0      0      0      14   
   York Pa      10      8      0      2      0      0      0      0      0      0      0      0      0      0      0   
   Wartburg      10      0      0      1      0      0      0      0      0      0      9      0      0      0      0   
   Augsburg      9      0      4      0      3      2      0      0      0      0      0      0      0      0      0   
   Colby      9      0      0      0      0      0      9      0      0      0      0      0      0      0      0   
   Bethel*      5      0      0      0      0      0      0      0      0      0      0      0      0      0      5   
   Hanover*      5      0      0      0      0      0      0      0      0      0      0      0      0      0      5   
   Mary Washington      4      0      0      0      0      0      0      4      0      0      0      0      0      0      0   
   Baldwin Wallace      3      0      3      0      0      0      0      0      0      0      0      0      0      0      0   
   Sewanee      3      0      3      0      0      0      0      0      0      0      0      0      0      0      0   
   Keene St*      3      0      0      0      0      0      0      0      0      0      0      0      1      0      2   
   CMS*      3      0      0      0      0      0      0      0      0      0      0      0      0      0      3   
   Gwynedd Mercy      2      2      0      0      0      0      0      0      0      0      0      0      0      0      0   
   Moravian (ronk)      2      2      0      0      0      0      0      0      0      0      0      0      0      0      0   
   ONU*      2      0      0      0      0      0      0      0      0      0      0      0      0      0      2   
   Salem St*      2      0      0      0      0      0      0      0      0      0      0      0      0      0      2   
   LFC      1      0      0      0      0      0      0      0      0      0      0      0      0      1      0   
   Yeshiva*      1      0      0      0      0      0      0      0      0      0      0      0      0      0      1   
   Bowdoin (NCF)      0      0      0      0      0      0      0      0      0      0      0      0      0      0      0   
   Hobart (Osprey)      0      0      0      0      0      0      0      0      0      0      0      0      0      0      0   
   Illinois Tech (7Express)      0      0      0      0      0      0      0      0      0      0      0      0      0      0      0   
   NEC (Smitty Oom)      0      0      0      0      0      0      0      0      0      0      0      0      0      0      0   
   Ohio Wes (Smedindy)      0      0      0      0      0      0      0      0      0      0      0      0      0      0      0   
   Olivet (HOPEful)      0      0      0      0      0      0      0      0      0      0      0      0      0      0      0   
   Rosemont (mailsy)      0      0      0      0      0      0      0      0      0      0      0      0      0      0      0   
   RPI (hopefan)      0      0      0      0      0      0      0      0      0      0      0      0      0      0      0   
   Skidmore (magicman)      0      0      0      0      0      0      0      0      0      0      0      0      0      0      0   
   St Joseph CT (Grizzlies)      0      0      0      0      0      0      0      0      0      0      0      0      0      0      0   
   U of Chicago (WUPHF)      0      0      0      0      0      0      0      0      0      0      0      0      0      0      0   
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