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Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
« Reply #1785 on: November 20, 2013, 10:57:37 pm »
Missed on 11/15/13... D3hoops can't catch 'em all

Wayland Baptist  (NAIA-D1)  81, Sul Ross State (D3)  74

Missed on 11/16/13

McMurry  (NCAA-D2)  76,  Sul Ross State (D3)  72

IS McMurry considered full D2 already?  (Must not have the waiting periods we have in D3.)
We are D-2 provisional (I think that we have 2 years left before we will be full members of the D-2 Heartland Conference and a football affiliate of the Lone Star Conference.)

This does give me the chance to mention our buzzer beater 3-pointer  in the win over Conference USA-member UT-San Antonio, 73-71.

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Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
« Reply #1786 on: November 21, 2013, 06:57:55 am »
Games of 11/20/13


Cal Lutheran (D3)  77    Bethesda (NCCAA-D1)  74
Arcadia (D3)  82    Bryn Athyn (Ind-D3 Exploratory)  77
Clarkson (D3)  76    SUNY-Canton (Ind-D3 Provisional)  66
Minnesota Crookston (NCAA-D2)  81    Finlandia (D3)  61
Concordia (Ala.) (USCAA)  103    Huntingdon (D3)  77
Penn St. Beaver (USCAA)  75    La Roche (D3)  64
Lewis and Clark (D3)  100    Warner Pacific (NAIA-D2)  89
Maine-Presque Isle (USCAA)  65    Maine Maritime (D3)  58
Penn State-Abington (D3)  99    Penn State Lehigh Valley (USCAA)  74
Viterbo (NAIA-D2)  65    St. Mary's (Minn.) (D3)  48
Wilkes (D3)  79    Penn St.-Hazleton (USCAA)  63
Youngstown State (NCAA-D1)  82    Thiel (D3)  58
Rowan (D3)  79    Penn State Brandywine (USCAA)  66
DeSales (D3)  94    Penn St.- Wilkes Barre (USCAA)  89
Williams (D3)  80    St. Joseph's (Vt.) (USCAA)  64
Sage (D3)  87    Albany Pharmacy (Other)  60
UNC Greensboro (NCAA-D1)  92    Greensboro (D3)  62


D3 versus         
              W   L   
NCAA-D1   0   3   
NCAA-D2   1   11   
NAIA-D1   5   3   
NAIA-D2   9   12   
NCCAA-D1   4   0   
NCCAA-D2   10   3   
USCAA   24   6   
Other   8   0   
Ind-D3 Exploratory   4   0   
IND-D3 Provisional   8   2   
« Last Edit: November 22, 2013, 03:41:46 pm by hopefan »

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Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
« Reply #1787 on: November 22, 2013, 09:56:20 am »
Games of 11/21/13

Bluffton (D3)  100    OSU Mansfield (Other)  62
Cazenovia (D3)  104    SUNY-ESF (USCAA)  92
Finlandia (D3)  57    Mayville State (NAIA-D2)  54
Lakeland (D3)  90    Silver Lake (USCAA)  76
Maryville (Tenn.) (D3)  122    Johnson (NCCAA-D2)  65
North Central (Ill.) (D3)  87    Illinois Tech (Ind-D3 Provisional)  30
Viterbo (NAIA-D2)  89    Martin Luther (D3)  77
Oglethorpe (D3)  63    Warren Wilson (USCAA)  50
Whittier (D3)      West Coast Baptist (NCCAA-D2)       rescheduled to 12/3
Lehman (D3)  98    The New School (Other)  34
Western Illinois (NCAA-D1)  79    Eureka (D3)  52


D3 versus      
              W   L
NCAA-D1   0   4
NCAA-D2   1   11
NAIA-D1   5   3
NAIA-D2   10   13
NCCAA-D1   4   0
NCCAA-D2   11   3
USCAA   27   6
Other   10   0
Ind-D3 Exploratory   4   0
IND-D3 Provisional   9   2

« Last Edit: November 22, 2013, 07:05:18 pm by hopefan »

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Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
« Reply #1788 on: November 22, 2013, 11:43:27 am »
D3 versus      
              W   L
NCAA-D1   0   4
NCAA-D2   1   11
NAIA-D1   5   3
NAIA-D2   10   13
NCCAA-D1   4   0
NCCAA-D2   11   3
USCAA   27   6
Other   10   0

Ind-D3 Exploratory   4   0
IND-D3 Provisional   9   2

It seems very odd to me that we've played 61 games below even NAIA II level vs  just 23 against NAIA II, our closest cousin.  Maybe this will correct itself as we go deeper into the season?
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Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
« Reply #1789 on: November 22, 2013, 11:49:06 am »
D3 versus      
              W   L
NCAA-D1   0   4
NCAA-D2   1   11
NAIA-D1   5   3
NAIA-D2   10   13
NCCAA-D1   4   0
NCCAA-D2   11   3
USCAA   27   6
Other   10   0

Ind-D3 Exploratory   4   0
IND-D3 Provisional   9   2

It seems very odd to me that we've played 61 games below even NAIA II level vs  just 23 against NAIA II, our closest cousin.  Maybe this will correct itself as we go deeper into the season?


Cupcake time

Actually I can answer the question, though my numbers miss some tournament games..

2013-14 Games vs:
NCAA-D1   34
NCAA-D2   33
NAIA-D1     29
NAIA-D2    110
NCCAA-D1   11
NCCAA-D2    53
USCAA        110
Other           35
Ind-D3 Exploratory   13
IND-D3 Provisional    51
« Last Edit: November 22, 2013, 12:01:58 pm by hopefan »

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Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
« Reply #1790 on: November 22, 2013, 01:04:56 pm »
I'm not so sure I'd automatically count NCCAA-D1 as below NAIA-D2. Aren't a decent number of them actually NAIA-II, NCAA-D3, and even NCAA-D2 members?
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Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
« Reply #1791 on: November 22, 2013, 01:34:51 pm »
I'm not so sure I'd automatically count NCCAA-D1 as below NAIA-D2. Aren't a decent number of them actually NAIA-II, NCAA-D3, and even NCAA-D2 members?
You can find the list here, but you might want to double check against thenccaa.org.  Many NCAA-D2 members and NAIA-D2 with some NCAA-D3 and NAIA-D1.  Gardner Webb won the NCCAA tournament in 2001 as a NCAA D-1 member, but is no longer competing in the NCCAA.
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Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
« Reply #1792 on: November 22, 2013, 01:41:36 pm »
Does the tally of NCCAA list those with sole membership in said organization?

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Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
« Reply #1793 on: November 22, 2013, 01:58:22 pm »
Does the tally of NCCAA list those with sole membership in said organization?
The wikipedia list appears to be pretty accurate from a quick inspection.  I count 10 out of 69 NCCAA D-1 members who aren't currently a member of another organization. 

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Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
« Reply #1794 on: November 22, 2013, 02:07:41 pm »
Here is where I have teams categorized... it is not necessarily all-inclusive, but at a minimum includes any teams playing a D3 school

Bethesda   NCCAA-D1
Bob Jones   NCCAA-D1
Columbia International   NCCAA-D1
Crowley's Ridge   NCCAA-D1
Dallas Baptist   NCCAA-D1
Lee   NCCAA-D1
New Hope Christian   NCCAA-D1
Oklahoma Christian   NCCAA-D1
Point   NCCAA-D1
Tennessee Temple   NCCAA-D1
Victory   NCCAA-D1


Arlington Baptist   NCCAA-D2
Baptist Bible (Mo.)   NCCAA-D2
Boyce   NCCAA-D2
Central Bible   NCCAA-D2
Crossroads   NCCAA-D2
Crown (Tn.)   NCCAA-D2
Dallas Christian   NCCAA-D2
Faith Baptist Bible   NCCAA-D2
Grace Bible   NCCAA-D2
Great Lakes Christian   NCCAA-D2
Johnson   NCCAA-D2
Kuyper   NCCAA-D2
Lincoln Christian   NCCAA-D2
Manhattan Christian   NCCAA-D2
Moody Bible   NCCAA-D2
Multnomah   NCCAA-D2
Northland International   NCCAA-D2
Ohio Christian   NCCAA-D2
Pensacola Christian   NCCAA-D2
Portland Bible   NCCAA-D2
Providence College   NCCAA-D2
Toccoa Falls   NCCAA-D2
Trinity (Fla.)   NCCAA-D2
Trinity Bible   NCCAA-D2
West Coast Baptist   NCCAA-D2


Akron-Wayne   Other
Albany Pharmacy   Other
American Sports   Other
Barclay   Other
Bethany (Cal.)   Other
Champion Baptist   Other
College of Faith   Other
Concordia St. Louis   Other
Cooper Union   Other
Culinary Institute   Other
Davis   Other
Dayspring Bible   Other
East-West   Other
Emmaus   other
Free Will Baptist   Other
Gogebic CC   Other
Hiwassee   Other
Holland College   Other
Jamestown-Olean   Other
John Abbott   Other
Kent St.-Tuscarawas   Other
Logan Chiropractic   Other
Maryland Bible   Other
Miami-Hamilton   Other
Nebraska Christian   Other
Ohio State Lima   Other
Ohio State Marion   Other
Ohio University Eastern   Other
Ohio University-Zanesville   Other
Open Bible   Other
OSU Lima   Other
OSU Mansfield   Other
Pacifica   Other
Patrick Henry   Other
Pitt-Titusville   Other
Pratt   Other
Rhema Bible   Other
Sacred Heart (PR)   Other
Sagrado Corazon   Other
Shawnee Baptist   Other
Simon Fraser   Other
Southern Maine C.C.   Other
Southwestern Adventist   Other
St. Katherine   Other
St. Louis Christian   Other
SUNY-Delhi   Other
Thaddeus Stevens   Other
The New School   Other
Universidad Metropolitana   Other
Valley Forge Military   Other
Word of Life   Other


Andrews   USCAA
Barber Scotia   USCAA
Berkeley (N.J.)   USCAA
Berkeley College (NY)   USCAA
Briarcliffe (N.Y)   USCAA
Central Penn   USCAA
Christendom   USCAA
Concordia (Ala.)   USCAA
Daeman   USCAA
Florida College   USCAA
Indiana Dabney   USCAA
Johnson and Wales (N.C.)   USCAA
King's College NY   USCAA
Lindenwood-Belleville   USCAA
Maine-Augusta   USCAA
Maine-Fort Kent   USCAA
Maine-Machias   USCAA
Maine-Presque Isle   USCAA
Me.-Augusta   USCAA
Mid-Atlantic Christian   USCAA
Oakwood   USCAA
Ohio MidWestern   USCAA
Paul Smiths   USCAA
Penn St. Beaver   USCAA
Penn St. Mont Alto   USCAA
Penn St.- Wilkes Barre   USCAA
Penn St.-Dubois   USCAA
Penn St.-Fayette   USCAA
Penn St.-Greater Allegheny   USCAA
Penn St.-Hazleton   USCAA
Penn St.-New Kensington   USCAA
Penn State Brandywine   USCAA
Penn State Delaware County   USCAA
Penn State Lehigh Valley   USCAA
Penn State Schuylkill   USCAA
Penn State Scranton   USCAA
Penn State York   USCAA
Robert Morris-Lake County   USCAA
Robert Morris-Springfield   USCAA
Rochester (Mich.)   USCAA
Saint Mary-of-the-Woods   USCAA
Silver Lake   USCAA
St. Joseph's (VT.)   USCAA
SUNY-ESF   USCAA
The Apprentice School   USCAA
UC Clermont   USCAA
Unity   USCAA
Valor Christian   USCAA
Vaughn   USCAA
Vermont Tech   USCAA
Virginia-Lynchburg   USCAA
Warren Wilson   USCAA
Washington Adventist   USCAA
Williamson Trade School   USCAA





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Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
« Reply #1795 on: November 22, 2013, 02:10:57 pm »
Allen   NAIA-D1
Arizona Christian   NAIA-D1
Auburn Montgomery   NAIA-D1
Avila   NAIA-D1
Azusa Pacific   NAIA-D1
Bacone   NAIA-D1
Baker   NAIA-D1
Belhaven   NAIA-D1
Benedictine (Kansas)   NAIA-D1
Bethel (Tenn.)   NAIA-D1
Biola   NAIA-D1
Blue Mountain   NAIA-D1
Bluefield   NAIA-D1
Brewton-Parker   NAIA-D1
Cal St. San Marcos   NAIA-D1
Campbellsville   NAIA-D1
Carroll Mt   NAIA-D1
Central Methodist   NAIA-D1
Columbia College   NAIA-D1
Concordia (Cal.)   NAIA-D1
Culver-Stockton   NAIA-D1
Cumberland   NAIA-D1
Dickinson State   NAIA-D1
Dillard   NAIA-D1
Edward Waters   NAIA-D1
Emmanuel (Ga.)   NAIA-D1
Evangel   NAIA-D1
Faulkner   NAIA-D1
Fisk   NAIA-D1
Freed-Hardeman   NAIA-D1
Georgetown   NAIA-D1
Graceland   NAIA-D1
Great Falls   NAIA-D1
Hannibal-Lagrange   NAIA-D1
Harris-Stowe   NAIA-D1
Hope International   NAIA-D1
Huston-Tillotson   NAIA-D1
Jarvis Christian   NAIA-D1
John Brown    NAIA-D1
Langston   NAIA-D1
Lewis-Clark State   NAIA-D1
Life   NAIA-D1
Lindsey Wilson   NAIA-D1
Loyola (N.O.)   NAIA-D1
LSU-Shreveport   NAIA-D1
Lyon   NAIA-D1
Martin Methodist   NAIA-D1
Master's   NAIA-D1
MidAmerica Nazarene   NAIA-D1
Mid-American Christian   NAIA-D1
Mid-Continent   NAIA-D1
Missouri Baptist   NAIA-D1
Missouri Valley   NAIA-D1
Mobile   NAIA-D1
Montana State-Northern   NAIA-D1
Montana Tech   NAIA-D1
Montana-Western   NAIA-D1
Morris   NAIA-D1
Oklahoma Baptist   NAIA-D1
Oklahoma City   NAIA-D1
Park   NAIA-D1
Paul Quinn   NAIA-D1
Peru State   NAIA-D1
Philander Smith   NAIA-D1
Pikeville   NAIA-D1
Rio Grande   NAIA-D1
Rocky Mountain   NAIA-D1
San Diego Christian   NAIA-D1
Science & Arts   NAIA-D1
Shawnee State   NAIA-D1
Southern Polytechnic   NAIA-D1
Southern Wesleyan   NAIA-D1
Southern-New Orleans   NAIA-D1
Southwest (N.M.)   NAIA-D1
Southwestern Assemblies   NAIA-D1
Spring Hill   NAIA-D1
St. Catharine   NAIA-D1
St. Gregory's   NAIA-D1
Talladega   NAIA-D1
Texas College   NAIA-D1
Texas Wesleyan   NAIA-D1
Tougaloo   NAIA-D1
Trevecca Nazarene   NAIA-D1
Vanguard   NAIA-D1
Voorhees   NAIA-D1
Wayland Baptist   NAIA-D1
West Virginia Tech   NAIA-D1
Westminster (Utah)   NAIA-D1
Westmont   NAIA-D1
Wiley   NAIA-D1
William Carey   NAIA-D1
William Woods   NAIA-D1
Williams Baptist   NAIA-D1
Xavier (La.)   NAIA-D1
AIB College of Business   NAIA-D2
Alice Lloyd   NAIA-D2
Aquinas   NAIA-D2
Asbury   NAIA-D2
Ashford   NAIA-D2
Ave Maria   NAIA-D2
Bellevue   NAIA-D2
Berea   NAIA-D2
Bethany (Kan.)   NAIA-D2
Bethel (Ind.)   NAIA-D2
Bethel (Kan.)   NAIA-D2
Brescia   NAIA-D2
Briar Cliff (Iowa)   NAIA-D2
Bryan   NAIA-D2
Cal Maritime   NAIA-D2
Calumet St. Joseph   NAIA-D2
Cardinal Stritch   NAIA-D2
Central Baptist   NAIA-D2
Central Christian   NAIA-D2
Cincinnati Christian   NAIA-D2
Clarke   NAIA-D2
College of Idaho   NAIA-D2
Concordia (Mi.)   NAIA-D2
Concordia (Neb.)   NAIA-D2
Concordia (Ore.)   NAIA-D2
Corban   NAIA-D2
Cornerstone   NAIA-D2
Dakota State   NAIA-D2
Dakota Wesleyan   NAIA-D2
Davenport   NAIA-D2
Doane   NAIA-D2
Dordt   NAIA-D2
Eastern Oregon   NAIA-D2
Embry-Riddle   NAIA-D2
Evergreen St.   NAIA-D2
Fisher   NAIA-D2
Florida Memorial   NAIA-D2
Friends   NAIA-D2
Goshen   NAIA-D2
Grace   NAIA-D2
Grand View   NAIA-D2
Haskell   NAIA-D2
Hastings   NAIA-D2
Holy Cross   NAIA-D2
Huntington (Ind.)   NAIA-D2
Ind.-East   NAIA-D2
Indiana Southeast   NAIA-D2
Indiana Tech   NAIA-D2
Indiana Wesleyan   NAIA-D2
Indiana-Kokomo   NAIA-D2
Indiana-Northwest   NAIA-D2
Indiana-Northwest   NAIA-D2
Indiana-South Bend   NAIA-D2
Jamestown   NAIA-D2
Johnson & Wales (Colo.)   NAIA-D2
Johnson & Wales (Fla.)   NAIA-D2
Judson   NAIA-D2
Kansas Wesleyan   NAIA-D2
Kentucky Christian   NAIA-D2
La Sierra   NAIA-D2
Lawrence Tech   NAIA-D2
Madonna   NAIA-D2
Marian (Ind.)   NAIA-D2
Marygrove   NAIA-D2
Mayville State   NAIA-D2
McPherson   NAIA-D2
Menlo   NAIA-D2
Michigan-Dearborn   NAIA-D2
Midland   NAIA-D2
Milligan   NAIA-D2
Montreat   NAIA-D2
Morningside   NAIA-D2
Mount Marty   NAIA-D2
Mount Mercy   NAIA-D2
Mount Vernon Nazarene   NAIA-D2
Nebraska Wesleyan   NAIA-D2
Northern New Mexico   NAIA-D2
Northwest (Wash.)   NAIA-D2
Northwest Christian   NAIA-D2
Northwestern (Iowa)   NAIA-D2
Northwestern Ohio   NAIA-D2
Northwood (Fla.)   NAIA-D2
Oklahoma Wesleyan   NAIA-D2
Olivet Nazarene   NAIA-D2
Oregon Tech   NAIA-D2
Ottawa   NAIA-D2
Ozarks   NAIA-D2
Pacific Union   NAIA-D2
Point        NAIA-D2
Point Park   NAIA-D2
Presentation   NAIA-D2
Purdue-Calumet   NAIA-D2
Purdue-North Central   NAIA-D2
Reinhardt   NAIA-D2
Robert Morris (Chicago)   NAIA-D2
Roberts Wesleyan   NAIA-D2
Roosevelt   NAIA-D2
Siena Heights   NAIA-D2
Simpson (Cal.)   NAIA-D2
Southeastern   NAIA-D2
Southern Oregon   NAIA-D2
Southwestern (Kan.)   NAIA-D2
Spring Arbor   NAIA-D2
St. Ambrose   NAIA-D2
St. Francis (Ill.)   NAIA-D2
St. Francis (Ind.)   NAIA-D2
St. Louis Pharmacy   NAIA-D2
St. Mary (Kan.)   NAIA-D2
St. Thomas (Fla.)   NAIA-D2
St. Thomas (Tx.)   NAIA-D2
St. Xavier   NAIA-D2
Sterling   NAIA-D2
Tabor   NAIA-D2
Taylor   NAIA-D2
Tennessee Wesleyan   NAIA-D2
Trinity Christian   NAIA-D2
Trinity International   NAIA-D2
Truett-McConnell   NAIA-D2
UC-Merced   NAIA-D2
Union (Ky.)   NAIA-D2
Valley City State   NAIA-D2
Virginia Intermont   NAIA-D2
Viterbo   NAIA-D2
Waldorf   NAIA-D2
Walla Walla   NAIA-D2
Warner   NAIA-D2
Warner Pacific   NAIA-D2
Webber International   NAIA-D2
Wilberforce   NAIA-D2
William Jessup   NAIA-D2
William Penn   NAIA-D2
York (Neb.)   NAIA-D2


I'm not worried about 'dead' schools included.... but if I have any stupidly misplaced, let me know and I will correct....

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Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
« Reply #1796 on: November 22, 2013, 02:18:49 pm »
Here is where I have teams categorized... it is not necessarily all-inclusive, but at a minimum includes any teams playing a D3 school


Dallas Baptist   NCCAA-D1

Dallas Baptist is also NCAA-D2 and to make things more confusing I'll also throw out the fact that they're NCAA-D1 for baseball.
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Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
« Reply #1797 on: November 22, 2013, 03:33:34 pm »
Looking at their site, they play in an NCAA-D2 conference... I'll make the change.. and hey, D3 E Texas Bap beat them!!!!!

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Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
« Reply #1798 on: November 22, 2013, 03:38:21 pm »
Looking at their site, they play in an NCAA-D2 conference... I'll make the change.. and hey, D3 E Texas Bap beat them!!!!!
exhibition game though.

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Re: D3 vs. D1/D2/NAIA/NCCAA
« Reply #1799 on: November 22, 2013, 03:42:31 pm »
just realized that... thanks....