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Re: Michigan Intercollegiate Athletic Association
« Reply #9750 on: May 25, 2020, 09:49:37 pm »
Not a good sign...the University of Michigan president announced that IF they decide on not having on-campus students this fall, there will be NO football. I'd that happens, I believe that will be the death bell ring for MIAA, DII and NAIA football in Michigan this year as well. No time frame for decision was given, however, they'll have to decide by July I believe.

This makes sense - "putting the horse before the cart". The question is, good doctor, where does having the students back "on campus" but taking a large amount of classes online put sports?

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Re: Michigan Intercollegiate Athletic Association
« Reply #9751 on: May 25, 2020, 11:21:54 pm »
Not a good sign...the University of Michigan president announced that IF they decide on not having on-campus students this fall, there will be NO football. I'd that happens, I believe that will be the death bell ring for MIAA, DII and NAIA football in Michigan this year as well. No time frame for decision was given, however, they'll have to decide by July I believe.

This makes sense - "putting the horse before the cart". The question is, good doctor, where does having the students back "on campus" but taking a large amount of classes online put sports?

I think I recall reading that sports couldn't be played if students are not on campus, because having only athletes on campus would be treating them differently and violate amateurism rules.  But IF students in general are on campus, I can't see why how the classes are held (in person on online) would be relevant.  (Of course, if classes are ONLY online, why crowd students on to campus?  But apparently some schools are planning 'hybrid' learning - much online, but also once a week or so in person.)

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Re: Michigan Intercollegiate Athletic Association
« Reply #9752 on: May 26, 2020, 11:08:08 am »
RFMichigan and Mr. Ypsi:

Good questions and responses, respectively. See my reply to yours and other comments by some of our colleagues over on the OAC board.

Hope you both had an enjoyable Memorial Day weekend, as much as any of us could do under the circumstances.
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Re: Michigan Intercollegiate Athletic Association
« Reply #9753 on: June 30, 2020, 10:48:08 pm »
A couple of questions I thought of randomly and thought I'd ask😃

1.  Does the MIAA still sponsor JV football?

2.  Do other conferences in D3 have JV football currently or did they but no longer, or never had?

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Re: Michigan Intercollegiate Athletic Association
« Reply #9754 on: July 01, 2020, 12:58:26 am »
The MIAA is going to play mostly conference games for Fall sports.

https://www.miaa.org/miaaheadlines/MIAA_Preparing_For_Fall_Competition?fbclid=IwAR2ehHdGhTVs47rarg6AJEkYYCmNgsKOX-qfiznAhh9RjQTDRPZ0GYLPGEw


This would seem to cancel the first two weeks of non-conference football games.  For Hope that's a trip to Anderson and a home date with Monmouth.
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Re: Michigan Intercollegiate Athletic Association
« Reply #9755 on: July 01, 2020, 08:12:06 am »
The MIAA is going to play mostly conference games for Fall sports.

https://www.miaa.org/miaaheadlines/MIAA_Preparing_For_Fall_Competition?fbclid=IwAR2ehHdGhTVs47rarg6AJEkYYCmNgsKOX-qfiznAhh9RjQTDRPZ0GYLPGEw


This would seem to cancel the first two weeks of non-conference football games.  For Hope that's a trip to Anderson and a home date with Monmouth.

Wouldn't the MIAA-NACC Challenge games scheduled for the third week of non-conference games also be cancelled?

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Re: Michigan Intercollegiate Athletic Association
« Reply #9756 on: July 01, 2020, 11:10:31 am »
The MIAA is going to play mostly conference games for Fall sports.

https://www.miaa.org/miaaheadlines/MIAA_Preparing_For_Fall_Competition?fbclid=IwAR2ehHdGhTVs47rarg6AJEkYYCmNgsKOX-qfiznAhh9RjQTDRPZ0GYLPGEw


This would seem to cancel the first two weeks of non-conference football games.  For Hope that's a trip to Anderson and a home date with Monmouth.

Wouldn't the MIAA-NACC Challenge games scheduled for the third week of non-conference games also be cancelled?

I haven't seen anything specific, but I'm kind of going under the assumption non-conference football games aren't going to happen.  The Sept 19 start date is probably going to cancel the first two weeks of the season.
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Re: Michigan Intercollegiate Athletic Association
« Reply #9757 on: July 01, 2020, 12:08:16 pm »
The MIAA is going to play mostly conference games for Fall sports.

https://www.miaa.org/miaaheadlines/MIAA_Preparing_For_Fall_Competition?fbclid=IwAR2ehHdGhTVs47rarg6AJEkYYCmNgsKOX-qfiznAhh9RjQTDRPZ0GYLPGEw


This would seem to cancel the first two weeks of non-conference football games.  For Hope that's a trip to Anderson and a home date with Monmouth.

Wouldn't the MIAA-NACC Challenge games scheduled for the third week of non-conference games also be cancelled?

I haven't seen anything specific, but I'm kind of going under the assumption non-conference football games aren't going to happen.  The Sept 19 start date is probably going to cancel the first two weeks of the season.

At the very least, the first games because the tentative plan for coronaviris safety protocols in return to full team practices encompasses a five week period. As per the league's announcement after last week's President's Council meeting with the Commissioner and HCs, likely all non-conference games will be canceled. However, there has not been any official announcement from the individual colleges as yet regarding
"definitive" cancelation of those games and I know (from my sources🤫) that at least one of the schools was pushing hard for keeping their full 10 game regular season. 

As you can ascertain from the announcement, each school is working on their own specific policy within the overall general recommended safety and healrh/medical guidelines, and that might possibly provide the "out window" for a school to do what they want with regard o playing more games than the others provided, of course, the PC and Commissioner would allow that choice. Personally, I don't see that happening from what I know,. However, in reality, who knows?  This is an era when anything can happen.
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Re: Michigan Intercollegiate Athletic Association
« Reply #9758 on: July 07, 2020, 01:46:03 pm »
MIAA released fall sports schedules yesterday.  Here is the link to the FB schedule.  Essentially everyone is playing 9 games, all against MIAA opponents with 2 "don't count in the league standings " games to start.  Looks like they took the conference schedule, and added a second meeting to start the season with the last 2 teams in the conference "do count" games.  For example, Hope plays Albion and Trine the last 2 weeks, so they get to play them both the first two weeks.  Home & away kind of thing.  Only Kazoo & Finlandia are skipping their first "doesn't count" matchup and playing 8 total games. 

https://www.miaa.org/general/2019-20/releases/2020_FB_Schedule_Approved.pdf
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Re: Michigan Intercollegiate Athletic Association
« Reply #9759 on: July 07, 2020, 02:25:08 pm »
MIAA released fall sports schedules yesterday.  Here is the link to the FB schedule.  Essentially everyone is playing 9 games, all against MIAA opponents with 2 "don't count in the league standings " games to start.  Looks like they took the conference schedule, and added a second meeting to start the season with the last 2 teams in the conference "do count" games.  For example, Hope plays Albion and Trine the last 2 weeks, so they get to play them both the first two weeks.  Home & away kind of thing.  Only Kazoo & Finlandia are skipping their first "doesn't count" matchup and playing 8 total games. 

https://www.miaa.org/general/2019-20/releases/2020_FB_Schedule_Approved.pdf

This was posted later yesterday over on the CCIW board. We knew the announcement was expected early this week after the league Council meeting was held a grw days ago. There were/are some additional "reasons" for this format being decided on i.e. aside from the usual ones concerning the longer distance/out of state non-conference games being canceled. Regardimg the latter, this is not surprising since some of the conferences are canceling the non-conference games and I suspect that most of them will do that.

BTW, there are reports, which you probably have been aware of as well, that the Ivy League will postpone football and have that season in the spring next year. While that might work for the Ivy League (which they apparently think it can), I don't believe that would be feasible for the MIAA or most DIII schools even if they wanted to seriously consider it.
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Re: Michigan Intercollegiate Athletic Association
« Reply #9760 on: July 08, 2020, 06:36:16 pm »
MIAA released its football schedules this afternoon.   First two weeks are games vs conference opponents but will not count for league standings, essentially "non-conference games".  Everyone will play two teams twice except Kalamazoo and Finlandia who will play only once.

https://www.miaa.org/general/2019-20/releases/2020_FB_Schedule_Approved.pdf


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Re: Michigan Intercollegiate Athletic Association
« Reply #9761 on: July 22, 2020, 08:20:02 pm »
As many of our colleague DIII conferences are now canceling the fall season, does anyone want to venture a guess as to how long will it be before our league does the same? I will be extremely surprised if our MIAA chooses to continue on as much as I desire to see football played this fall. I am now bevoming perplexed i.e. uncertain.
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Re: Michigan Intercollegiate Athletic Association
« Reply #9762 on: July 23, 2020, 08:32:54 am »
As many of our colleague DIII conferences are now canceling the fall season, does anyone want to venture a guess as to how long will it be before our league does the same? I will be extremely surprised if our MIAA chooses to continue on as much as I desire to see football played this fall. I am now bevoming perplexed i.e. uncertain.

I am resigned to the inevitability there will be little if any D3 football this Fall.  I  was looking to watching the Central College Dutch make their foray into the MIAA.  Oh well ... wait 'til next year.
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Re: Michigan Intercollegiate Athletic Association
« Reply #9763 on: July 24, 2020, 04:36:45 pm »
Once the NCAA announces the cancellation or postponement of Fall Championships there really will be no reason to continue with Fall athletics.

I hope it isn't about collecting tuition, but its about collecting tuition, ya know. :-\
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Re: Michigan Intercollegiate Athletic Association
« Reply #9764 on: July 24, 2020, 04:57:01 pm »
Once the NCAA announces the cancellation or postponement of Fall Championships there really will be no reason to continue with Fall athletics.

I hope it isn't about collecting tuition, but its about collecting tuition, ya know. :-\

At some schools it surely is.
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