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Re: FB: New Jersey Athletic Conference
« Reply #13590 on: October 18, 2020, 09:32:58 am »
Really makes you wonder how many players really have the finances in place to spend another semester in college
I feel sorry for these guys, but I hope they make the best financial decision for their situations. In my opinion, taking on huge financial debt is not a good idea.

I had to deal with a similar situation at the end of my 4th year at Rowan. I ran cross country at Rowan many years back.  I graduated after 4 years, but I still had athletic eligibility to run an extra year.  Although I wanted to join the team for another season, the cost of an added semester (for potentially a double major) was too high. I determined the cost was too much and joined the working working.  At the D3 level, you are essentially paying to participate in the sport you love - the "perks" are not enough to justify another year in the system.

From what I recall, we didn't get many perks as athletes (especially as cross country runners). We had early pickings of classes so we could schedule around practice, but frankly that was about it. We got a few bucks as meal money after weekend races. The irony, is that the time you invest in the sport takes away from studying which is correlated to your GPA and that's a key metric for hiring managers.

I have moved 180 on this as well.  At first I liked the idea of the NCAA allowing kids to play 5 games and still maintain eligibility.  Now, I wonder if this is harming players.  Most seniors need to apply for jobs, law school, med school, etc. now.  How many employers are going to agree to a 6 month deferment, to allow a kid to play one more season pf their sport?  I honestly don't know the answer.  Really doubt any of the med/law schools even have a 6 month deferment as an option.

Agree 100%. Division III is about student...............athletes, in that order. I've read about 5 games to preserve redshirts to "chase a championship". Say what???? Get the degree and chase grad school and an awesome job. Don't stoop to the level of many of the Division I athlete............students (in that order)!!

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Re: FB: New Jersey Athletic Conference
« Reply #13591 on: October 18, 2020, 09:46:34 am »
Really makes you wonder how many players really have the finances in place to spend another semester in college

Regardless, as an athlete, would you rather play 5 games or no games? 

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Re: FB: New Jersey Athletic Conference
« Reply #13592 on: October 18, 2020, 11:31:15 am »
Really makes you wonder how many players really have the finances in place to spend another semester in college

Regardless, as an athlete, would you rather play 5 games or no games? 

-Ski
With no other things to consider ($, health, etc.) then Yes I would assume they would rather play games versus no games.

On another note, Rowan typically has a lot of turnover from year to year, even in normal times... they may have a completely different roster in 2021. I do see some of the key guys (Divine, Husni, Maldonado) training on their social media accounts, so hopefully the Profs will have a core group coming back.. whenever that is
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Re: FB: New Jersey Athletic Conference
« Reply #13593 on: October 20, 2020, 12:52:19 pm »
Really makes you wonder how many players really have the finances in place to spend another semester in college

Regardless, as an athlete, would you rather play 5 games or no games? 

-Ski
With no other things to consider ($, health, etc.) then Yes I would assume they would rather play games versus no games.

On another note, Rowan typically has a lot of turnover from year to year, even in normal times... they may have a completely different roster in 2021. I do see some of the key guys (Divine, Husni, Maldonado) training on their social media accounts, so hopefully the Profs will have a core group coming back.. whenever that is

Rowan, what causes all of the year to year turnover at a place like Rowan? They have such a "tuition advantage" over some other schools in the NJAC and all of the schools in the nearby MAC that I'd think tuyrnover (due to affordability as an example) would be a lot less.

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Re: FB: New Jersey Athletic Conference
« Reply #13594 on: October 21, 2020, 04:45:07 pm »
Really makes you wonder how many players really have the finances in place to spend another semester in college

Regardless, as an athlete, would you rather play 5 games or no games? 

-Ski
With no other things to consider ($, health, etc.) then Yes I would assume they would rather play games versus no games.

On another note, Rowan typically has a lot of turnover from year to year, even in normal times... they may have a completely different roster in 2021. I do see some of the key guys (Divine, Husni, Maldonado) training on their social media accounts, so hopefully the Profs will have a core group coming back.. whenever that is

Rowan, what causes all of the year to year turnover at a place like Rowan? They have such a "tuition advantage" over some other schools in the NJAC and all of the schools in the nearby MAC that I'd think tuyrnover (due to affordability as an example) would be a lot less.
That's a great question.  For the answer, I'm not sure. I believe the cost of Rowan tuition has increased significantly over the past decade. When I attended Rowan from '04 to '08, I was able to afford tuition on my own with a simple summer job. Now adays I don't think that's the case.

In regards to player attrition the coaches don't discuss player matters as a policy so I don't know the real answer but I think it all depends on each players situation.  However, overall I believe guys lose the passion to play, or they get buried on the depth chart and quit. Other guys may decide to focus on academics.

From what I've seen, they typically start with around 50 freshman.  Roughly 30 proceed to Soph year. Then they'll have around 20 or so Juniors.  Then we've seen about 12 seniors the past few seasons.  All in it's about 100 players or so. 

I could be wrong, but I think the NJAC has roster size limitations. So you won't see Rowan with 200 players like Mount Union or the Texas powerhouses. So maybe there are some cuts too.
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Re: FB: New Jersey Athletic Conference
« Reply #13595 on: October 22, 2020, 11:25:01 am »
Really makes you wonder how many players really have the finances in place to spend another semester in college

Regardless, as an athlete, would you rather play 5 games or no games? 

-Ski
With no other things to consider ($, health, etc.) then Yes I would assume they would rather play games versus no games.

On another note, Rowan typically has a lot of turnover from year to year, even in normal times... they may have a completely different roster in 2021. I do see some of the key guys (Divine, Husni, Maldonado) training on their social media accounts, so hopefully the Profs will have a core group coming back.. whenever that is

Rowan, what causes all of the year to year turnover at a place like Rowan? They have such a "tuition advantage" over some other schools in the NJAC and all of the schools in the nearby MAC that I'd think tuyrnover (due to affordability as an example) would be a lot less.
That's a great question.  For the answer, I'm not sure. I believe the cost of Rowan tuition has increased significantly over the past decade. When I attended Rowan from '04 to '08, I was able to afford tuition on my own with a simple summer job. Now adays I don't think that's the case.

In regards to player attrition the coaches don't discuss player matters as a policy so I don't know the real answer but I think it all depends on each players situation.  However, overall I believe guys lose the passion to play, or they get buried on the depth chart and quit. Other guys may decide to focus on academics.

From what I've seen, they typically start with around 50 freshman.  Roughly 30 proceed to Soph year. Then they'll have around 20 or so Juniors.  Then we've seen about 12 seniors the past few seasons.  All in it's about 100 players or so. 

I could be wrong, but I think the NJAC has roster size limitations. So you won't see Rowan with 200 players like Mount Union or the Texas powerhouses. So maybe there are some cuts too.

I think Roster size is 125 in normal years. I've heard they are allowing 135 this year??????? I may very well be incorrect.

Thanks for sharing thoughts on the retention issue. Interesting.

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Re: FB: New Jersey Athletic Conference
« Reply #13596 on: October 24, 2020, 11:11:41 am »
45 degrees. Overcast. A little breezy. Leaves on the ground. There should be football today....

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Re: FB: New Jersey Athletic Conference
« Reply #13597 on: October 24, 2020, 07:25:51 pm »
45 degrees. Overcast. A little breezy. Leaves on the ground. There should be football today....
As a fan, I miss seeing the Profs Brown & Gold
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Re: FB: New Jersey Athletic Conference
« Reply #13598 on: November 20, 2020, 05:29:07 pm »
Any new NJAC news or updates?

Rowan just wrapped up practices.  There is still a possible season in the Spring, but not 100%

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Re: FB: New Jersey Athletic Conference
« Reply #13599 on: November 21, 2020, 10:38:19 am »
Any new NJAC news or updates?

Sounds like Rowan just wrapped up practices for this season.  This possible season in Spring, but not 100%
Hearing similar things on the Wesley front. Their practices are done until January. Not sure if thatís an NJAC thing or a school decision. Spring season not quite a done deal yet.

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Re: FB: New Jersey Athletic Conference
« Reply #13600 on: November 21, 2020, 01:06:06 pm »
I  really think the upcoming immunizations will help make the decision of having a spring schedule more likely.

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Re: FB: New Jersey Athletic Conference
« Reply #13601 on: November 21, 2020, 05:54:13 pm »
I  really think the upcoming immunizations will help make the decision of having a spring schedule more likely.

-Ski

I HOPE you are right, but I have my doubts.  Vaccines will not be available to everyone immediately.  IMO, they will first go to first-responders (esp. medical, as they should), then to us old farts who are at most risk of death from COVID, and only then to the general public, including college-age athletes (and probably most of their parents).  Barring a miracle, I can't see that happening until mid to late summer - too late for this season.

MAYBE 2021-22 can be 'normal', ;)