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Re: Middle Atlantic Conference
« Reply #5505 on: September 22, 2012, 06:43:04 pm »
And this 2-pt. conversion attempt up 62-0...please tell me that was the result of a bad snap or something. If they went for a traditional two-point conversion up by nine touchdowns...

I think it has to be a botch. The guy credited with the run is a safety. He's probably the holder.

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Re: Middle Atlantic Conference
« Reply #5506 on: September 22, 2012, 06:51:56 pm »
One hopes that on some Saturday there will be a day of reckoning for both Delaware Valley and Widener ....

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« Reply #5507 on: September 22, 2012, 06:52:03 pm »
dlip will tell you what, he went from being a Widener hopeful to an ardent non-supporter. He just miraculously turned into a HUGE Leb Valley fan for next week.

If dlip was Leb Val's coach he would suit these guys up for next week's game:
« Last Edit: September 22, 2012, 06:54:03 pm by dlip »

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Re: Middle Atlantic Conference
« Reply #5508 on: September 22, 2012, 07:27:50 pm »
I would not lump the two programs together. It appears that del-val pulled  its starters after the first series of the second half. Also they only ran the ball the entire fourth quarter. At some point there is only so much you can do. However, in the case of Widener, I agree. I add that I am not only disgusted but ashamed with my former program. I have read alumni letters written by the coaching staff using words like honor class and character. Not really sure that WU showed any of that on the field today. Almost makes this former player want to see them lose. Hey you know what they say about karma and pay backs.

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Re: Middle Atlantic Conference
« Reply #5509 on: September 22, 2012, 07:51:08 pm »
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Gordon Mann's audio from the Aggie/FDU game has been totally lost.   The feed was really poor from the start with all kinds of over sound bites and ads competing with Gordon's call of the game.  The good news, when the feed was lost it was Del Val 45, FDU 3.

Sorry for the technical problems that marred today's broadcast. The internet stopped working during the second half at least once.  That rarely happens at the football stadium, but it did today for some reason.  That's beyond my control.

The problems with ads and highlights playing during the broadcast is something I can fix. I thought I had it fixed after it happened last week at Stevenson, but apparently not.  The frustrating part is that problem is completely undetectable to me during the broadcast.  I don't hear the spots.  I don't see their audio on the meter.  But apparently they are running.

Such are the perils of doing a broadcast completely by yourself with no technical support or color guy.  I'll get back on the horse next week.


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Re: Middle Atlantic Conference
« Reply #5510 on: September 22, 2012, 07:57:01 pm »
And this 2-pt. conversion attempt up 62-0...please tell me that was the result of a bad snap or something. If they went for a traditional two-point conversion up by nine touchdowns...

I think it has to be a botch. The guy credited with the run is a safety. He's probably the holder.

Good to know

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Re: Middle Atlantic Conference
« Reply #5511 on: September 22, 2012, 08:03:57 pm »
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As if Delaware Valley over FDU by 60 points isn't bad enough...

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One hopes that on some Saturday there will be a day of reckoning for both Delaware Valley and Widener ....

I'm not an unbiased observer, but I don't think Del Val ran up the score intentionally.  The starters played one series in the second half and it ended in a turnover.  The Aggies rarely thew the ball in the second half with the reserves in the game. They ran a very conservative offense with no misdirection or strange formations.  Just handing the ball off to the running back.

At one point the fifth running back on Del Val's depth chart took a simple hand off for 52 yards. Another score followed FDU fumbling deep in their own territory. Take a look at the player participation for Del Val and the play calling.

It would've helped if FDU-Florham ran a more varied offense.  They threw the ball 2 times in the entire second half, none in the fourth quarter.  At one point they handed the ball off 8 times in row to the same kid who finished with 20 yards.  He had 13 carries in 16 plays at one point. 

I can't say why FDU became incredibly one dimensional after moving the ball in the first half.  They were able to throw on Del Val's defense.  But if you decide to run every play for someone who is averaging less than two yards per carry, the other team is going to get the ball a lot.

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Re: Middle Atlantic Conference
« Reply #5512 on: September 22, 2012, 08:11:59 pm »
Gordon, thanks for the feed explanation, but a huge thanks for the reason behind the final Aggie score!  Didn't know the particulars, myself, since the feed was gone, but heard enough to know that they had removed their starters after that first play of the second half.  I include myself when i say one should never jump to conclusions - still say a fervent, GO AGGIES!

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Re: Middle Atlantic Conference
« Reply #5513 on: September 22, 2012, 08:15:03 pm »
Based on all accounts PBR would not lump the DVC performance and Widener performance together at all today. Was away at my kid's soccer tourney and wanted to wait until I saw what really happened before making a judgement like some did on here. Not sure how I look the Wilkes coach in the face and shake his hand if I am the Widener coach after the game today. Total bush league and completely classless IMHO....If people at the game can defend them then fine will be glad to hear it. But to this fan of sports in general there is not 1 single reason to run up a score like that. I don't care whether it's soccer/football/basketall/etc... Widener's administration should have something to say to that coach. Maybe I am over reacting but I can't find any reason to justify running the score up to 90 including throwing the ball that late in the game being up by that kind of score. Let Karma reach out for Widener this year....

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« Reply #5514 on: September 22, 2012, 08:20:45 pm »
Wilkes had to have turnovers or turnovers on downs early in the game. I was shock myself with the final score. I know last year when Salisbury was putting up big numbers, I can at least say we were running ball (unless you consider a pitch a pass). But hey, we need the East to continue making statements so that our #1 and #2 seed could have some pull when playoffs come around.


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Re: Middle Atlantic Conference
« Reply #5515 on: September 22, 2012, 08:29:19 pm »
Well, I suppose there is no better time than after a 90-point loss for a Wilkes fan to make his first appearance of the year on the board... :-[

Honestly, I still don't have any details as to how the game in Chester played out. I have seen many people, at all levels of football, complain about running up the score, so I have always tried to give the winning team in a blowout the benefit of the doubt. You can't put in players on the bottom of the depth chart and tell them not to play hard, as I believe Gordon illustrates with that fifth-string Del Val running back.

But 90-0? If anyone can fill me in on how this played out who was there in person, please do. I saw Wilkes open at home against Albright last week, and while this may not be the most complete team the Colonels have put on the field in recent seasons, I would certainly not expect them to get beat by that margin. I can understand Widener wanting to avenge their loss at Schmidt Stadium last season, but that doesn't justify playing the first-string deep into the second half, as some of the other posters seem to have alluded to.

In my years with the Colonels, from 2004 through 2007, we had four great games with the Pioneers/Pride. They were always some of the most intense games the Colonels played, but there was always class and sportsmanship from the Widener folk during the game, and after the contests. Hopefully, for the sake of the Pride and the MAC overall,  that spirit of competitiveness did not leave town in Chester when the most recent coaching change took place.

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Re: Middle Atlantic Conference
« Reply #5516 on: September 22, 2012, 08:50:39 pm »
Wilkes had to have turnovers or turnovers on downs early in the game. I was shock myself with the final score. I know last year when Salisbury was putting up big numbers, I can at least say we were running ball (unless you consider a pitch a pass). But hey, we need the East to continue making statements so that our #1 and #2 seed could have some pull when playoffs come around.

Quick research will show It was only 7-0 after 1, and 35-0 at the half. 65 of the points came in the 2nd half (27 and 28 for 3rd and 4th)

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Re: Middle Atlantic Conference
« Reply #5517 on: September 22, 2012, 08:53:45 pm »
Wilkes had to have turnovers or turnovers on downs early in the game. I was shock myself with the final score. I know last year when Salisbury was putting up big numbers, I can at least say we were running ball (unless you consider a pitch a pass). But hey, we need the East to continue making statements so that our #1 and #2 seed could have some pull when playoffs come around.

Quick research will show It was only 7-0 after 1, and 35-0 at the half. 65 of the points came in the 2nd half (27 and 28 for 3rd and 4th)

Yeah, just checked it. I really don't know what to say to that. I guess football is football, regardless if you consider it classy or not. It would just make future games more intense.

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Re: Middle Atlantic Conference
« Reply #5518 on: September 22, 2012, 08:57:24 pm »
Ooops, apparently my degree in math didn't help me see that they scored 55 not 65 in the second half.  :P

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Re: Middle Atlantic Conference
« Reply #5519 on: September 23, 2012, 10:50:31 am »
The Widener at Lebanon Valley game next Saturday should be VERY interesting  ;).    Of course the most important game for me will be Albright at Del Val (Homecoming)!   Good luck to the Aggies!  Also, while i'm on here, Gordon Mann does an exceptional job with the play by play of the DVC games!  Thank you, Gordon!