Future of Division III

[Ralph Turner]

DIII football, basketball equipment requirements delayed 

The NCAA Playing Rules Oversight Panel agreed this week to delay requiring Division III institutions to provide a visible backboard light in basketball and a wireless referee microphone in football until 2011-12.

PROP, responding to a request from the Division III Presidents Council to delay the requirements for one year, acknowledged concerns about the budgetary impact of those requirements in the current economic climate.

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[Ralph Turner]

D-1 expense ("profit/loss") numbers.

Did I see a "Centenary" in there?


Link

Data from the latest NCAA revenue and expenses report show not only the wide range of generated funds and necessary expenses but also that most schools are allocating about $8 million from institutional sources to fund their athletics programs.

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Revenues/Expenses

[roocru]

DIII proposals going forward;

http://www.ncaa.org/wps/ncaa?key=/ncaa/ncaa/ncaa+news/ncaa+news+online/2009/division+iii/diii+council+supports+conference-sponsored+proposals_10_21_09__ncaa_news

[Ralph Turner]

Video series discussing legislative proposals at January Convention.

[roocru]

In light of conversations regarding colleges adding football to increase enrollment, please click on the link below for an interesting article regarding the Title IX perspective by some individuals;

http://www.insidehighered.com/news/2009/11/03/titleix

[Ron Boerger]

NCAA:  DIII moving toward debut of plan to sharpen identity  

http://www.ncaa.org/wps/ncaa?key=/ncaa/ncaa/ncaa%20news/ncaa%20news%20online/2009/division%20iii/diii%20moving%20toward%20debut%20of%20plan%20to%20sharpen%20identity_11_09_09_ncaa_news

[From the sidebar of D3 news items on the site, thought some might not see it].

[awadelewis]

It appears that the University of New Orleans is getting serious about applying to switch to Division III.  This press release was posted on UNO's website this afternoon:
http://news.uno.edu/Public/Index.asp?page_id=30&Content_ID=1744

Will be interesting to see what happens to D-III here in the south if UNO does apply to make the switch.  Both Centenary and UNO will be looking for conference affiliations and while Centenary might be a good fit for the ASC, I'm not certain where in the conference landscape UNO would end up.

[Ralph Turner]

It appears that the University of New Orleans is getting serious about applying to switch to Division III.  This press release was posted on UNO's website this afternoon:
http://news.uno.edu/Public/Index.asp?page_id=30&Content_ID=1744

Will be interesting to see what happens to D-III here in the south if UNO does apply to make the switch.  Both Centenary and UNO will be looking for conference affiliations and while Centenary might be a good fit for the ASC, I'm not certain where in the conference landscape UNO would end up.

+1  Thanks for the link!

Let me extend that to this consideration.

Add Belhaven a football playing school in Jackson MS, and the ASC has a vibrant 10-team East Division.


Here are travel partners:

Mississippi College* /Belhaven* (less than 20 miles apart)

UNO(*?)/Louisiana College* in Pineville (Alexandria)  207 miles apart)

Centenary(*?)/ETBU* in nearby Marshall Texas  40 miles apart

UT-Tyler/ LeTourneau both in east Texas 40 miles apart

UOzarks/UT-Dallas current members that have been paired as travel partners in some schedules.

In fact, you are only one football affiliate away from having a separate football conference if UNO, Centenary and Belhaven come on board.

[Hawks88]

It appears that the University of New Orleans is getting serious about applying to switch to Division III.  This press release was posted on UNO's website this afternoon:
http://news.uno.edu/Public/Index.asp?page_id=30&Content_ID=1744

Will be interesting to see what happens to D-III here in the south if UNO does apply to make the switch.  Both Centenary and UNO will be looking for conference affiliations and while Centenary might be a good fit for the ASC, I'm not certain where in the conference landscape UNO would end up.

+1  Thanks for the link!

Let me extend that to this consideration.

Add Belhaven a football playing school in Jackson MS, and the ASC has a vibrant 10-team East Division.


Here are travel partners:

Mississippi College* /Belhaven* (less than 20 miles apart)

UNO(*?)/Louisiana College* in Pineville (Alexandria)  207 miles apart)

Centenary(*?)/ETBU* in nearby Marshall Texas  40 miles apart

UT-Tyler/ LeTourneau both in east Texas 40 miles apart

UOzarks/UT-Dallas current members that have been paired as travel partners in some schedules.

In fact, you are only one football affiliate away from having a separate football conference if UNO, Centenary and Belhaven come on board.

There are a couple of nice candidates for football affiliation not TOO far to the east in that scenario, Ralph. 

[Ralph Turner]

It appears that the University of New Orleans is getting serious about applying to switch to Division III.  This press release was posted on UNO's website this afternoon:
http://news.uno.edu/Public/Index.asp?page_id=30&Content_ID=1744

Will be interesting to see what happens to D-III here in the south if UNO does apply to make the switch.  Both Centenary and UNO will be looking for conference affiliations and while Centenary might be a good fit for the ASC, I'm not certain where in the conference landscape UNO would end up.

+1   Thanks for the link!

Let me extend that to this consideration.

Add Belhaven a football playing school in Jackson MS, and the ASC has a vibrant 10-team East Division.


Here are travel partners:

Mississippi College* /Belhaven* (less than 20 miles apart)

UNO(*?)/Louisiana College* in Pineville (Alexandria)  207 miles apart)

Centenary(*?)/ETBU* in nearby Marshall Texas  40 miles apart

UT-Tyler/ LeTourneau both in east Texas 40 miles apart

UOzarks/UT-Dallas current members that have been paired as travel partners in some schedules.

In fact, you are only one football affiliate away from having a separate football conference if UNO, Centenary and Belhaven come on board.

There are a couple of nice candidates for football affiliation not TOO far to the east in that scenario, Ralph.  

LaGrange to ETBU  598 miles
LaGrange to UNO 405 miles
LaGrange to Centenary 560 miles
LaGrange to Pineville/LaCollege  530 miles

Huntingdon is about 100 miles closer.

Hawks, I have a football fan question for you from a perspective who lives in "SEC-land".

How uncommon/unusual/unfamiliar/out-of character is it to drive from Huntingdon/LaGrange to UNO/Centenary/ETBU since that is driving thru "the SEC"?  Thanks

[Hawks88]

It appears that the University of New Orleans is getting serious about applying to switch to Division III.  This press release was posted on UNO's website this afternoon:
http://news.uno.edu/Public/Index.asp?page_id=30&Content_ID=1744

Will be interesting to see what happens to D-III here in the south if UNO does apply to make the switch.  Both Centenary and UNO will be looking for conference affiliations and while Centenary might be a good fit for the ASC, I'm not certain where in the conference landscape UNO would end up.

+1   Thanks for the link!

Let me extend that to this consideration.

Add Belhaven a football playing school in Jackson MS, and the ASC has a vibrant 10-team East Division.


Here are travel partners:

Mississippi College* /Belhaven* (less than 20 miles apart)

UNO(*?)/Louisiana College* in Pineville (Alexandria)  207 miles apart)

Centenary(*?)/ETBU* in nearby Marshall Texas  40 miles apart

UT-Tyler/ LeTourneau both in east Texas 40 miles apart

UOzarks/UT-Dallas current members that have been paired as travel partners in some schedules.

In fact, you are only one football affiliate away from having a separate football conference if UNO, Centenary and Belhaven come on board.

There are a couple of nice candidates for football affiliation not TOO far to the east in that scenario, Ralph.  

LaGrange to ETBU  598 miles
LaGrange to UNO 405 miles
LaGrange to Centenary 560 miles
LaGrange to Pineville/LaCollege  530 miles

Huntingdon is about 100 miles closer.

Hawks, I have a football fan question for you from a perspective who lives in "SEC-land".

How uncommon/unusual/unfamiliar/out-of character is it to drive from Huntingdon/LaGrange to UNO/Centenary/ETBU since that is driving thru "the SEC"?  Thanks

Personnally, I have no problem driving to Louisiana/East Texas to see the Hawks. Heck, I drove to Missouri to see them play Westminster several weeks ago. Of course my wife and I are pretty much the only ones there who don't have a family member playing so I guess it probably isn't too common. 

[awadelewis]

How to fit Huntingdon and Lagrange into this picture with UNO was one of the reasons why I didn't automatically suggest UNO as a candidate for ASC membership.   Take those three schools + Centenary, raid some of the easternmost schools from the ASC and perhaps add Maryville to the mix gives you a strong competitor to the ASC and SCAC in the South Region.   Then add the impact of travel costs on some of the SCAC schools and I can see a big potential for major conference realignment amongst the Southern schools in D-III.

[Ralph Turner]

There is some shuffling going on in the South.

The USA South failed to lock up the men from the GSAC.

If/when Shenandoah leaves, then the USA South men fall short of the AQ in all sports except football where affiliate Maryville has helped then.  No AQ for men's soccer, hoops, baseball or tennis two years after Shenandoah leaves.

The GSAC-Men  (4 plus Covenant, and maybe Berry) would have made a nice division.

Let me clarify.  I was only talking about LaGrange and Huntingdon as football affiliates in a brand new conference formed out of the ASC-East.  If LaGrange and Huntingdon affiliate with that ASC-East group for football, then does that throw a monkey wrench into a future merger of the GSAC Men into the USA South?  Just something to think about.

As an AD, bringing the women out of the GSAC makes no sense.  You have a nice compact conference with all of the AQ's coming online.

There is no doubt that Centenary and UNO coming into D-III changes things.

I have always maintained that Centenary will ultimately end up in the SCAC when their new president gets the academic and financial house in order.  Still it would be nice to have a full an separate "conference" out of the ASC-East.

[Gregory Sager]

Is Belhaven contemplating a move to D3, Ralph?

[cush]

How about the SCAC expand with berry, centenary, UNO and Udallas?...than break off into two 8 team divisions based on e/w geography