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Re: Future of Division III
« Reply #2565 on: May 03, 2020, 09:01:32 am »
My take (NO insider info, but lots of reading) is that any colleges that go under in the next sixth months were probably doomed within the next few years anyway.  However, IF COVID-19 is not faced with effective treatments and/or vaccines within a year, I think MANY schools will buckle under. 

Who is going to pay private-school prices to have online teaching?  Community Colleges will steal HUGE amounts of private school  moneys if colleges can't re-open for face-to-face instruction.  If colleges are still shut down in 2021, it may be chaos.

The problem, of course, is that dorms are total vectors for infection.  Testing MUST be drastically ramped up or D3 schools are in deep doo-doo.

I will argue that dorms are not perfect vectors for the disease.  Colleges can create a closed atmosphere (similar to the Harry S Truman Air craft carrier: https://taskandpurpose.com/news/harry-s-truman-deployment-coronavirus)   Test everyone, practice hand washing, limit the visits from those outside the institution, maybe no "breaks" until Christmas.  Dorms are not nursing homes or cruise ships,  healthy/young vs sicker/elderly. 

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Re: Future of Division III
« Reply #2566 on: May 03, 2020, 11:39:09 am »
My take (NO insider info, but lots of reading) is that any colleges that go under in the next sixth months were probably doomed within the next few years anyway.  However, IF COVID-19 is not faced with effective treatments and/or vaccines within a year, I think MANY schools will buckle under. 

Who is going to pay private-school prices to have online teaching?  Community Colleges will steal HUGE amounts of private school  moneys if colleges can't re-open for face-to-face instruction.  If colleges are still shut down in 2021, it may be chaos.

The problem, of course, is that dorms are total vectors for infection.  Testing MUST be drastically ramped up or D3 schools are in deep doo-doo.

I will argue that dorms are not perfect vectors for the disease.  Colleges can create a closed atmosphere (similar to the Harry S Truman Air craft carrier: https://taskandpurpose.com/news/harry-s-truman-deployment-coronavirus)   Test everyone, practice hand washing, limit the visits from those outside the institution, maybe no "breaks" until Christmas.  Dorms are not nursing homes or cruise ships,  healthy/young vs sicker/elderly.

Students are unlikely to be willing participants in a scheme that forces them to pay tens of thousands of dollars a semester to be cooped up for months at a time; they're not members of the Armed Forces who either do what they are told or are subject to serious discipline.   In addition, many students don't live on campus, and some/many schools are unable to provide on-campus lodging for all their students.

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Re: Future of Division III
« Reply #2567 on: May 03, 2020, 02:08:13 pm »
Mask wearing on campus will likely become the norm as it will be for the rest of us. Just look to Asia where mask wearing has become much more the norm because of viruses like this. Part of our norm will be masks for everyone - I don't expect full lockdowns on campuses, but I do expect there to be a different look.
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Re: Future of Division III
« Reply #2568 on: May 03, 2020, 02:48:48 pm »
Mask wearing on campus will likely become the norm as it will be for the rest of us. Just look to Asia where mask wearing has become much more the norm because of viruses like this. Part of our norm will be masks for everyone - I don't expect full lockdowns on campuses, but I do expect there to be a different look.
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Re: Future of Division III
« Reply #2569 on: May 04, 2020, 10:30:30 am »
Mask wearing on campus will likely become the norm as it will be for the rest of us. Just look to Asia where mask wearing has become much more the norm because of viruses like this.

Actually, Dave, mask-wearing as a contagion blocker has been the norm in East Asia for decades. Trust me on this one; North Park's campus borders on Chicago's Koreatown, and Chicago's Little Saigon (the center of Vietnamese culture in the Midwest) is two and a half miles east of campus in the Uptown neighborhood. The city's Far North Side is flush with East Asian immigrants, and I've seen them wearing masks throughout the forty years I've lived here.

It'd be more pleasant if Americans at large adopted bulgoki or pho or banh mi sandwiches as cultural borrowings the way that they took to sushi and chow mein in previous generations, but I suppose that there's worse things than to have your country's tradition of self-initiative with regard to public health become an American cultural import.

Mask wearing on campus will likely become the norm as it will be for the rest of us. Just look to Asia where mask wearing has become much more the norm because of viruses like this. Part of our norm will be masks for everyone - I don't expect full lockdowns on campuses, but I do expect there to be a different look.
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Re: Future of Division III
« Reply #2570 on: May 04, 2020, 10:42:50 am »
Mask wearing on campus will likely become the norm as it will be for the rest of us. Just look to Asia where mask wearing has become much more the norm because of viruses like this.

Actually, Dave, mask-wearing as a contagion blocker has been the norm in East Asia for decades. Trust me on this one; North Park's campus borders on Chicago's Koreatown, and Chicago's Little Saigon (the center of Vietnamese culture in the Midwest) is two and a half miles east of campus in the Uptown neighborhood. The city's Far North Side is flush with East Asian immigrants, and I've seen them wearing masks throughout the forty years I've lived here.

It'd be more pleasant if Americans at large adopted bulgoki or pho or banh mi sandwiches as cultural borrowings the way that they took to sushi and chow mein in previous generations, but I suppose that there's worse things than to have your country's tradition of self-initiative with regard to public health become an American cultural import.


Now I want banh mi for dinner... going to have to see if the thai place is doing curbside pickup...

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Re: Future of Division III
« Reply #2571 on: May 21, 2020, 06:07:44 pm »
An on-point San Antonio Express-News interview with Trinity(TX) president Danny Anderson about the impact of COVID-19 past, present, and future; while the emphasis is on Trinity, Dr. Anderson also discusses the impact to higher education and small, residential liberal arts schools like Trinity (and many other D3 colleges).   You may need to kill your ad-blocker to view this but it otherwise is not behind a paywall.  https://www.expressnews.com/news/education/article/Trinity-University-president-talks-about-15286108.php