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Re: FB: Presidents' Athletic Conference
« Reply #4470 on: February 10, 2018, 02:29:16 pm »
No -- I think we're not likely to, either.
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Re: FB: Presidents' Athletic Conference
« Reply #4471 on: February 10, 2018, 03:38:39 pm »
No -- I think we're not likely to, either.

That pretty much forces them to look to DII. I just don't see being independent in all sports as a long term solution.

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Re: FB: Presidents' Athletic Conference
« Reply #4472 on: February 10, 2018, 03:46:22 pm »
I suspect the NAIA is a more likely destination than NCAA Division II.
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Re: FB: Presidents' Athletic Conference
« Reply #4473 on: February 10, 2018, 04:30:45 pm »
I suspect the NAIA is a more likely destination than NCAA Division II.

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Re: FB: Presidents' Athletic Conference
« Reply #4474 on: February 10, 2018, 04:48:53 pm »
Agreed. I'd hate to lose them.
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Re: FB: Presidents' Athletic Conference
« Reply #4475 on: February 10, 2018, 05:00:29 pm »
A quick look at NAIA conferences on Wekipedia showed no obvious fits.

The best geographic NAIA plan I saw could be to join the Mid States Football Association and the River States Conference (which does not sponsor football) for other sports. TMC was a member of the RSC from 1955-1991 when it was known as the Kentucky Intercollegiate Athletic Conference before moving to DIII.

The RSC only offers 7 sports for Men and 8 for women. That would leave sports like wrestling and the newly announced swiming & diving programs without a conference affiliation unless they could become associate members of some other conference.

Clearly TMC has a challenge ahead of them.
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Re: FB: Presidents' Athletic Conference
« Reply #4476 on: February 11, 2018, 07:49:40 pm »
A quick look at NAIA conferences on Wekipedia showed no obvious fits.

The best geographic NAIA plan I saw could be to join the Mid States Football Association and the River States Conference (which does not sponsor football) for other sports. TMC was a member of the RSC from 1955-1991 when it was known as the Kentucky Intercollegiate Athletic Conference before moving to DIII.

The RSC only offers 7 sports for Men and 8 for women. That would leave sports like wrestling and the newly announced swiming & diving programs without a conference affiliation unless they could become associate members of some other conference.

Clearly TMC has a challenge ahead of them.

There are 6 football playing members of the Mid-South Conference in the state of Kentucky.  If they go NAIA, it would be a good geographic fit.

I think they stay in the NCAA
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Re: FB: Presidents' Athletic Conference
« Reply #4477 on: February 11, 2018, 08:17:58 pm »
Anyone know the last football playing school to go from DIII to NAIA? It's been more the other direction the last 10 years so far as I remember.

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Re: FB: Presidents' Athletic Conference
« Reply #4478 on: February 11, 2018, 09:15:09 pm »
Menlo. Then dropped the sport. But you're right -- most of the direction has been the other way.
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Re: FB: Presidents' Athletic Conference
« Reply #4479 on: February 12, 2018, 07:54:33 am »
Menlo. Then dropped the sport. But you're right -- most of the direction has been the other way.

Pat:  I'm just curious which board I should frequent for TMC postings this upcoming season  :-[
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Re: FB: Presidents' Athletic Conference
« Reply #4480 on: February 12, 2018, 08:05:56 am »
SaintsFan,

After visiing the Mid South web site (vs just Wikepedia) I can see how TMC would fit in. They would be the 8th football playing school in the Bluegrass Division. Another positive is that they sponsor a broad range of spoets. The only one that appeared to be missing is Lacrosse.

How do you think TMC will handle travel logistics - eg Montgomery, AL one week, Canton, NY the next.
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Re: FB: Presidents' Athletic Conference
« Reply #4481 on: February 12, 2018, 08:29:47 am »
SaintsFan,

After visiing the Mid South web site (vs just Wikepedia) I can see how TMC would fit in. They would be the 8th football playing school in the Bluegrass Division. Another positive is that they sponsor a broad range of spoets. The only one that appeared to be missing is Lacrosse.

How do you think TMC will handle travel logistics - eg Montgomery, AL one week, Canton, NY the next.
The only thing that is missing is a trip to the West Coast the next week.

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Re: FB: Presidents' Athletic Conference
« Reply #4482 on: February 12, 2018, 09:20:38 am »
SaintsFan,

After visiing the Mid South web site (vs just Wikepedia) I can see how TMC would fit in. They would be the 8th football playing school in the Bluegrass Division. Another positive is that they sponsor a broad range of spoets. The only one that appeared to be missing is Lacrosse.

How do you think TMC will handle travel logistics - eg Montgomery, AL one week, Canton, NY the next.

I think as Pat pointed out, the St. John's game is probably a guarantee and will help support the travel for 2018.

I'm not sure how everything will work with the kids and having to be in class.  The team has bused to Huntingdon and Alfred in the past.
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Re: FB: Presidents' Athletic Conference
« Reply #4483 on: February 21, 2018, 03:05:12 pm »
Just got non-conference schedule details for W&J for the next five years:

W&J will open 2018 AT St. John Fisher, 2nd year of this current home & home.

The Presidents will then play home & home with Wittenberg (2019-2020) and John Carroll (2021-2022).
All are early September games.
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Re: FB: Presidents' Athletic Conference
« Reply #4484 on: February 21, 2018, 04:18:39 pm »
Just got non-conference schedule details for W&J for the next five years:

W&J will open 2018 AT St. John Fisher, 2nd year of this current home & home.

The Presidents will then play home & home with Wittenberg (2019-2020) and John Carroll (2021-2022).
All are early September games.

Still a chance for 2023 with W&L but I never did get a response.