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Re: Top 25 talk
« Reply #11880 on: October 11, 2018, 04:03:17 pm »
Link: http://www.d3hoops.com/top25/men/2018-19/preseason

We're not allowed to just post the list?

It would be nice for the ads on our website to get a little love ... so we can continue trying to cover DIII sports. :)
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Re: Top 25 talk
« Reply #11881 on: October 11, 2018, 04:34:37 pm »
Link: http://www.d3hoops.com/top25/men/2018-19/preseason

Here is my Top 10 blog: http://www.d3blogs.com/d3hoops/2018/10/11/daves-preseason-ballot-18-19-the-top-10/

Yep... Top 10. I thought I would get a bit cheeky. Rest of the ballot to come out soon enough. :)

Did you purposely call Scadlock "Scadlove"?

If you did, that's awesome and hilarious at the same time.
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Re: Top 25 talk
« Reply #11882 on: October 11, 2018, 04:39:45 pm »
Link: http://www.d3hoops.com/top25/men/2018-19/preseason

Here is my Top 10 blog: http://www.d3blogs.com/d3hoops/2018/10/11/daves-preseason-ballot-18-19-the-top-10/

Yep... Top 10. I thought I would get a bit cheeky. Rest of the ballot to come out soon enough. :)

Did you purposely call Scadlock "Scadlove"?

If you did, that's awesome and hilarious at the same time.

Ha. So the sad part is I know I had Scadlove on my mind for some reason, but I also know I was thinking Scadlock. Clearly, the other side of my brain kicked in and I missed it even in the multiple proof-reads. :)

I will fix it in a bit ... have to run and get the kids right now.
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Re: Top 25 talk
« Reply #11883 on: October 11, 2018, 05:28:13 pm »
Link: http://www.d3hoops.com/top25/men/2018-19/preseason

We're not allowed to just post the list?

We have a website devoted to Division III basketball and I'd sure love to make sure it gets a few more clicks.
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Re: Top 25 talk
« Reply #11884 on: October 11, 2018, 05:33:46 pm »
That is entirely fair.  Maybe next time explain that when deleting.  I am sure I am far from the only one that posted the list.

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Re: Top 25 talk
« Reply #11885 on: October 11, 2018, 06:24:23 pm »
So far you are today, but not the first ever in the 19 years we've had both a message board and a ranking. :)
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Re: Top 25 talk
« Reply #11886 on: October 11, 2018, 07:07:11 pm »
So far you are today, but not the first ever in the 19 years we've had both a message board and a ranking. :)

We're all afraid to. That's why.  ;D ::) :P :D
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Re: Top 25 talk
« Reply #11887 on: October 11, 2018, 07:16:53 pm »
I did not expect a Rochester team that went 16-9 last season to end up two spots outside the Top 25.  They do return all but one player who featured heavily in the rotation.  But, they were not in the final rankings.

It got surprisingly dicey near the bottom for me - lots of question marks.  I included Rochester on my ballot partially because they have fewer question marks.  I prefer to let teams with something to prove actually prove it before voting.
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Re: Top 25 talk
« Reply #11888 on: October 11, 2018, 08:20:19 pm »
It got surprisingly dicey near the bottom for me - lots of question marks.  I included Rochester on my ballot partially because they have fewer question marks.  I prefer to let teams with something to prove actually prove it before voting.

That does make sense.

Rochester should see more playing time from one or two guys who were injured last year too.

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Re: Top 25 talk
« Reply #11889 on: October 11, 2018, 10:55:39 pm »
There are a few teams I think received too many poll points, and a few with too little, but overall I think this is a rock-solid preseason poll - maybe the best I can remember.  I like that teams seem to be generally lined up in the correct order within conferences and regions in terms of preseason expectations.  And there is not a head-scratching team in the Top 25.

#20 John Carroll is the team I think got too much love based on what they lost.  And ORV Loras is the team I think deserved more love.

I also think Wittenberg, at #11, is too high for the preseason poll. 6-10 Chad Roy (16.0 ppg, 6.1 rpg) was such a huge part of what made them tick last year...seems like they got a free pass for his graduation.

But again, pretty minor stuff overall.  This is a great poll to start with.

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Re: Top 25 talk
« Reply #11890 on: October 11, 2018, 11:00:29 pm »
I was a bit surprised at the Augustana #1 vote.  Let me clarify - I had Augustana #2 and I think the Vikings are easily as good as Nebraska Wesleyan.  But just seems like when the defending national champion returns this much, they are #1 until game results show otherwise.

That said, I guess it's cool one of the voters didn't just automatically pencil in NWU.

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Re: Top 25 talk
« Reply #11891 on: October 11, 2018, 11:52:08 pm »
I was a bit surprised at the Augustana #1 vote.  Let me clarify - I had Augustana #2 and I think the Vikings are easily as good as Nebraska Wesleyan.  But just seems like when the defending national champion returns this much, they are #1 until game results show otherwise.

That said, I guess it's cool one of the voters didn't just automatically pencil in NWU.

This surprised me as well and for a lot of the reasons you described. I am all for not just automatically penciling in defending champions as the preseason #1 (I know those who have and disagree with the idea), but at the same time ... NWU looks even better than last year.
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Re: Top 25 talk
« Reply #11892 on: October 12, 2018, 12:30:38 am »
There are a few teams I think received too many poll points, and a few with too little, but overall I think this is a rock-solid preseason poll - maybe the best I can remember.  I like that teams seem to be generally lined up in the correct order within conferences and regions in terms of preseason expectations.  And there is not a head-scratching team in the Top 25.

#20 John Carroll is the team I think got too much love based on what they lost.  And ORV Loras is the team I think deserved more love.

I also think Wittenberg, at #11, is too high for the preseason poll. 6-10 Chad Roy (16.0 ppg, 6.1 rpg) was such a huge part of what made them tick last year...seems like they got a free pass for his graduation.

But again, pretty minor stuff overall.  This is a great poll to start with.

This point is what gives me pause on Wittenberg. The rest of the pieces are all back and on paper they look all set for another run. But I am curious to see how the whole thing gels without his presence.

I left JCU off my Top 25 (if I was ranking 28 teams, they are probably on there)...they lost some really key guys. Moran had an excellent recruiting class this year and JCU is going to be a household name for many more years but I am curious to see how some of the new guys step into bigger roles.

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Re: Top 25 talk
« Reply #11893 on: October 12, 2018, 01:06:34 pm »
My latest blog post... spots 11-20: https://t.co/nOaIySyIAJ
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Re: Top 25 talk
« Reply #11894 on: October 12, 2018, 02:54:06 pm »
I was a bit surprised at the Augustana #1 vote.  Let me clarify - I had Augustana #2 and I think the Vikings are easily as good as Nebraska Wesleyan.  But just seems like when the defending national champion returns this much, they are #1 until game results show otherwise.

That said, I guess it's cool one of the voters didn't just automatically pencil in NWU.

I don't think it's "cool" when they deserve it. Yeah, when a defending National Champ loses a lot of their pieces and will most likely not be as good the upcoming year, yeah, vote someone else. But, when they basically return everyone and add to that, they probably deserve a unanimous vote. To simply vote for someone else because they want to be "that guy" isn't cool at all, IMO.
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