Author Topic: FB: Liberty League  (Read 4490282 times)

Offline Oline89

  • Starter
  • ***
  • Posts: 703
  • Karma: +111/-22
    • View Profile
Re: FB: Liberty League
« Reply #53415 on: July 28, 2020, 10:20:02 am »
Sure going to be a strange fall in the LL.  From what I understand, the Hobart football players are all going to show up to school (staggered days) with the regular student body.   Coaches are allowed to have practice during the fall (or the entire year, I guess). Rather than restricting football to certain weeks, I think the NCAA has restricted to a total number of days of participation over the academic year?  That could translate to full fall practices, but that would eliminate the ability to play in the spring?  Or play a little in the spring and a little in the fall, with weight training days sprinkled in between?  Not to mention, do players participate in the Fall, take the fall off, or do the seniors simply hang up the cleats and call it a career?   

Offline NED3Guy

  • Second-stringer
  • **
  • Posts: 114
  • Karma: +25/-2
    • View Profile
Re: FB: Liberty League
« Reply #53416 on: July 28, 2020, 12:51:18 pm »
114 days of athletic related activities to be used as desired by the coach / AD; throughout the academic year.

No more "traditional (fall)" and "non-traditional (spring)" season designation from the NCAA.

It's my understanding that the NCAA rule saying a player can retain eligibility if the team plays less than 50% of it's allowable contests this year is still in effect, as is the countable semester rule they made to allow for anything an athlete is able to do this year to not count against them.

I've heard from a few people that there is still an unknown regarding full padded practices in the spring; but that the NCAA will be addressing this in due time.

I'm still VERY skeptical of teams playing games in the spring....I just don't think many D3 athletic departments have the resources to pull it off.

Offline jmcozenlaw

  • All-Region
  • *****
  • Posts: 1104
  • Karma: +135/-272
    • View Profile
Re: FB: Liberty League
« Reply #53417 on: July 28, 2020, 03:34:07 pm »
114 days of athletic related activities to be used as desired by the coach / AD; throughout the academic year.

No more "traditional (fall)" and "non-traditional (spring)" season designation from the NCAA.

It's my understanding that the NCAA rule saying a player can retain eligibility if the team plays less than 50% of it's allowable contests this year is still in effect, as is the countable semester rule they made to allow for anything an athlete is able to do this year to not count against them.

I've heard from a few people that there is still an unknown regarding full padded practices in the spring; but that the NCAA will be addressing this in due time.

I'm still VERY skeptical of teams playing games in the spring....I just don't think many D3 athletic departments have the resources to pull it off.



................and it is not fair to the spring student athletes, who lost an entire season, vs. the fall student athletes who played a full season last year.

Offline Oline89

  • Starter
  • ***
  • Posts: 703
  • Karma: +111/-22
    • View Profile
Re: FB: Liberty League
« Reply #53418 on: July 28, 2020, 04:16:08 pm »
I think the LL schools can figure out a way to play in the Spring, but not if testing will still be required for every athlete 72 hours prior to each contest.  With a 7 team league, my guess would be that there will be a 5 game max set by the coaches.  Why bother playing 6 games and losing the potential extra year of eligibility.

Offline Oline89

  • Starter
  • ***
  • Posts: 703
  • Karma: +111/-22
    • View Profile
Re: FB: Liberty League
« Reply #53419 on: July 28, 2020, 04:18:29 pm »
114 days of athletic related activities to be used as desired by the coach / AD; throughout the academic year.

No more "traditional (fall)" and "non-traditional (spring)" season designation from the NCAA.

It's my understanding that the NCAA rule saying a player can retain eligibility if the team plays less than 50% of it's allowable contests this year is still in effect, as is the countable semester rule they made to allow for anything an athlete is able to do this year to not count against them.

I've heard from a few people that there is still an unknown regarding full padded practices in the spring; but that the NCAA will be addressing this in due time.

I'm still VERY skeptical of teams playing games in the spring....I just don't think many D3 athletic departments have the resources to pull it off.



................and it is not fair to the spring student athletes, who lost an entire season, vs. the fall student athletes who played a full season last year.

But, haven't most of those spring seniors graduated?  They really didn't have a chance to defer graduation by the time they were sent home.  The fall group of seniors may be enticed to return to school, given the chance to play in the spring.

Offline jmcozenlaw

  • All-Region
  • *****
  • Posts: 1104
  • Karma: +135/-272
    • View Profile
Re: FB: Liberty League
« Reply #53420 on: July 29, 2020, 09:32:59 am »
114 days of athletic related activities to be used as desired by the coach / AD; throughout the academic year.

No more "traditional (fall)" and "non-traditional (spring)" season designation from the NCAA.

It's my understanding that the NCAA rule saying a player can retain eligibility if the team plays less than 50% of it's allowable contests this year is still in effect, as is the countable semester rule they made to allow for anything an athlete is able to do this year to not count against them.

I've heard from a few people that there is still an unknown regarding full padded practices in the spring; but that the NCAA will be addressing this in due time.

I'm still VERY skeptical of teams playing games in the spring....I just don't think many D3 athletic departments have the resources to pull it off.



................and it is not fair to the spring student athletes, who lost an entire season, vs. the fall student athletes who played a full season last year.

But, haven't most of those spring seniors graduated?  They really didn't have a chance to defer graduation by the time they were sent home.  The fall group of seniors may be enticed to return to school, given the chance to play in the spring.

Even though football and basketball are my far and away first true loves (it occurs at inception as a Philadelphian), I'm really just against the whole concept of the spring athletes getting affected in any way, shape or form (shortened season, less resources such as access to fields and typical practice and game schedules and times, SID access, trainers, etc.) due to fall and winter sports (who had full seasons last go round) infringing on them.

While it is true what you stated about the seniors from the spring, some need the extra semester (or two) to graduate as some took a redshirt, others are in a 4 + 1 program to get a master's or are working towards a master's and have a season of eligibility left.

Additionally, I think about the spring athletes who will be juniors or seniors who already lost a full season and might either lose another one (as I personally feel that we are deep doo doo for another 12 - 18 months)...........or might have another one disrupted by the movement of fall and winter sports.

I know that football is the 800 pound gorilla in the sports world. While baseball is our "pasttime"..........football is our "passion". But I'd bet the student athletes, their parents and the coaches would beg to differ that any one sport is more important than their sport.

The only place where I agree that football should move to the spring is at the D-I level as the revenue at many big time programs funds the entire athletic program. That is far from the case at the D-II and D-III level.

I hope that I am wrong, but I don't see most sports (especially those involving contact........football, lacrosse, wrestling, basketball) be played until 2021 - 2022.