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Re: New England Small College Athletic Conference
« Reply #15 on: August 18, 2005, 02:03:52 pm »
Here is a link to a story about Ethan Brooks who is now on the Jets roster.
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Re: New England Small College Athletic Conference
« Reply #16 on: August 18, 2005, 04:39:52 pm »
Bantom1, i don't think Colby should be all that upset to have Trinity off the schedule this year... In fact they're probably thrilled, it's the only oportunity a NESCAC team has for an undefeated season this year (other than Trinity of course).  The Bantams lost the majority of their O-line but once again their defense will be dominant.
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Re: New England Small College Athletic Conference
« Reply #17 on: August 19, 2005, 12:07:35 am »
I have a relative who is a soph on the Amherst team and I have another relative who may be attending Williams next year.  I have tremendous respect for basically all the NESCAC schools and their academics.  But I'm partial to Amherst and Williams and their wonderful rivalry.  Both schools respect each other so much.  I'm also familiar with the league in football from recruiting weekends and from watching several games last year.  I agree that Colby is gonna be tough for everyone.  What a beautiful school.   Tufts beat Amherst last year.  Bowdoin will have a losing record, but will no longer be a doormat.  Middlebury is always competitive.  Another spectacular school.  Bates and Wesleyan I don't know how they'll be, but I get the imression that there is a lot more balance in the league now.  And the level of play is increasing.  Some of that likely has to do with the fact that the Ivies now only have 30 football slots per team instead of 35.  This means more good players will come to NESCAC.  Trinity is still the monster of the league, but they have a bit of an advantage in that under the NESCAC rules on tips, Trinity can take kids with lower SATs, how low the school can go is a function of the schools SAT average for the student body.  The Bantams can therefore recruit kids that Wms, Amherst and Bowdoin can't.  That is a fact.   Plus the kids that get recruited at Trinity, Trinity doesn't have to compete with the Ivies for those kids, whereas Wms, Amherst and Bowdoin lose kids to Harvard, Yale and Princeton, and have to compete to get kids from  Dartmouth and the others.   But I'm not complaining.  the Amherst boys welcome the opportunity to play a great football team like trinity.  That's what sports are about.  I'm looking forward to this years football season, my relative has put on 17 pounds of muscle since freshman year, and if he stays healthy, could get some significant playing time as a soph.  We'll see.   As for Morrissey, the fact is that freshmen seldom get significant playing time.  They're just not strong enough.  An exception was Guaraglia, who started at left tackle for the Jeffs from the second game.  I would bet that Weeks will see time at RB for Wms before Morrissey.  Weeks was a highly regarded RB in HS and is very fast.  The kids that work hard in practice and do their lifting in the summers will get their day.  Other kids go to college and find beer, and girls, and they don't want to lift, and their interest falls off.  There's a lot of attrition in D3, since there are no scholarships holding you in the programs.

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Re: New England Small College Athletic Conference
« Reply #18 on: August 19, 2005, 01:29:55 pm »
I agree that Trinity can get players accepted that Williams and Amherst cannot.  However, The fact that Williams and Amherst have a better academic reputation is also a huge recruiting obstacle for Trinity.  SAT scores have nothing to do with how good a football player is.  And Trinity loses a large number of recruits every year who are accademically eligible for any NESCAC school, but attent Williams and Amherst because of their reputation. 

I  believe Trinity has made more of a commitment to recuriting nationally (something Williams and Amherst have been doing for years) As opposed to relying so heavily on players from CT and especially eastern MA.  This, combined with a superior off-season weightlifting and conditioning program and excellent coaching is what has separated them from the rest of the NESCAC. 

As far as a more ballanced league, nothing could be further from the truth.  Maybe the middle of the pack teams (Colby, Williams, Amherst, Tufts etc.) are comparable in tallent, but the bottom tier teams (Hamilton, Bates, Bowdoin) remain doormats, while Trinity has won 22 games in a row by an average score of 35-4!  Ballance is hardly the word to describe the current state of NESCAC football.
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Re: New England Small College Athletic Conference
« Reply #19 on: August 19, 2005, 06:17:06 pm »
Trinity actually lost a Lacrosse recruit to Harvard this year, and a basketball recruit to Yale two years ago.  Saying they don't compete with the Ivy League is a false statement.

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Re: New England Small College Athletic Conference
« Reply #20 on: August 19, 2005, 06:24:43 pm »
Right, it seems it would be more accurate to say that they lose to the Ivy League rather than compete with them.  :)
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Re: New England Small College Athletic Conference
« Reply #21 on: August 20, 2005, 04:19:46 pm »
But Trinity did get a football player from Cornell a few years back.  So we don't always lose.

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« Reply #22 on: August 22, 2005, 12:22:51 pm »
Bowdoin: NO WORSE THAN 5-3 this year> I follow New England football pretty close and they had a terrific recruiting class in 04. what are your thoughts weightman.

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Re: New England Small College Athletic Conference
« Reply #23 on: August 22, 2005, 01:46:35 pm »
grady:  I'll tell you this, I like Coach Caputi.  He's a tough kid but still nice.  My dad had an army buddy in Leominster, and if I remember correctly, Caputi was a hard nosed quarterback for their arch rival Fitchburg HS.   Bowdoin played Amherst and several other teams VERY TOUGH last year.   They came back from something like three touchdowns down vs Amherst to force overtime and had at least two real good chances to win the game, missed field goal and intercepted pass in the end zone.  Amherst will be one team that won't take them lightly this year.  They'll definitely win a couple games and maybe upset one or two others.   I think they're much improved, but Coach Caputi has to talk with admissions and see if he can get just a little more slack out of them.  I'm sure Bowdoin would be psyched for a 5-3.

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Re: New England Small College Athletic Conference
« Reply #24 on: August 22, 2005, 02:08:25 pm »
I'll admit I laughed when I first read it, but with Williams off the schedule this year it's true... Bowdoin may actually have a legit shot at 5-3.  Especially if they can win two (or maybe just one) of their first 3 games (Middlebury, Amherst, Tufts) because they should handle Hamilton, Wesleyan and Bates.
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Re: New England Small College Athletic Conference
« Reply #25 on: August 22, 2005, 03:33:43 pm »
In talking with some folks at Trinity they mentioned they were very interested in a RB/WR that selected Williams. It was not Morressey. Williams could have two new Freshman RB's. The staff is very plesed with their incoming group and are counting on defence to lead the way this season. The O line replacements will be key but they won't need many ponits to remain undefeated as the defence is clearly tops in the league 

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Re: New England Small College Athletic Conference
« Reply #26 on: August 22, 2005, 09:03:22 pm »
Hey guys we got this going pretty good. The trouble is the NESCAC doesn't get started until mid Sept. But I know that there was about  8 frosh last year at Bowdoin that got playing time and that will be beneficial this year. Also I know some of the dads of these kids and it's good heritage. Some of them were very good D1aa  players years ago. These kids have good work ethic.
The league seems to  changing with us talking about Bowdoin and Colby..........

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Re: New England Small College Athletic Conference
« Reply #27 on: August 23, 2005, 12:14:34 am »
grady: NESCAC doesn't get started until 9/24 - later than any other conference.
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Re: New England Small College Athletic Conference
« Reply #28 on: August 23, 2005, 03:11:34 pm »
Just curious if people had any opinions on how Trinity (or any NESCAC school) would fair in the DIII playoffs.  Any thoughts?
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Re: New England Small College Athletic Conference
« Reply #29 on: August 23, 2005, 04:12:59 pm »
Bantom, you might be interested to know that Trinity has a new assistant coach I have some familiarity with.  His name is Lou Acquarulo and he is coming from the defensive coordinator position at University of Rochester.  I think he's going to be linebackers and special teams coach at Trinity, but I'm sure he'll be involved with their weight training program as well.  If you saw him you'd know why,  He's a wide body.  And a good recruiter.  Made the recruits at U of R feel comfortable, like football there would be fun.  Counterbalanced the head coach, who was in the more tightly wound, small athlete mode.  Tthink he was a former player under coach Priore, or coached with him at UPenn or something.  Should be a good fit.  I know he's big on lifting.