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Pool C
« on: January 20, 2006, 02:35:54 pm »
Just a formal reminder that there are 18 Pool C bids for the men this year.

Here is the Top 100 in QOWi through games of Thursday, Jan. 19. This is as complete as the schools' score reporting allows. I went through today and garnered as many regional games as I could out of what was missing.

1-10
Lawrence     12.182
Carnegie Mellon    12.111
Worcester Polytech    11.714
Cortland State    11.583
St. John Fisher    11.556
Trinity (Texas)    11.500
Occidental    11.400
Augustana    11.385
Amherst    11.364
Mississippi College    11.333
               
11-20
Tufts    11.333
Illinois Wesleyan    11.300
Albion    11.167
William Paterson    11.154
North Central    11.000
Maryville (Tenn.)    10.857
Wartburg    10.667
York (Pa.)    10.615
New York University    10.538
Lincoln    10.500

21-30
Wittenberg    10.455
Hope    10.444
Randolph-Macon    10.385
Baruch    10.357
Baldwin-Wallace    10.357
Albright    10.333
Catholic    10.333
Gordon    10.273
Utica    10.273
Bates    10.273
               
31-40
UW-La Crosse    10.250
Endicott    10.200
Norwich    10.167
Mary Hardin-Baylor    10.154
Howard Payne    10.154
Puget Sound    10.143
Fisk    10.125
Johns Hopkins    10.083
New Jersey City    10.000
Transylvania    10.000

41-50
Lake Erie    10.000
UW-Oshkosh    10.000
Plymouth State    9.933
Wilmington    9.875
St. Thomas    9.846
Wooster    9.833
Carroll    9.818
Averett    9.800
Wilkes    9.800
Coe    9.778

51-60
Salem State    9.769
MIT    9.769
Washington U.    9.750
UW-Whitewater    9.727
Rochester    9.700
Trinity (Conn.)    9.700
Virginia Wesleyan    9.688
UW-Stout    9.667
Loras    9.667
Widener    9.643

61-70
Ursinus    9.643
Hanover    9.636
Richard Stockton    9.615
Wheaton (Mass.)    9.571
Keene State    9.571
Messiah    9.538
Bluffton    9.444
Williams    9.429
Villa Julie    9.417
Alvernia    9.333

71-80
Bowdoin    9.333
Mount St. Mary    9.250
Calvin    9.250
Whitworth    9.231
Franklin    9.231
UW-Platteville    9.231
Alfred    9.222
Southwestern    9.182
Coast Guard    9.167
New Jersey    9.167
               
81-90
Oglethorpe    9.167
Ramapo    9.167
Western Connecticut    9.154
Rutgers-Newark    9.133
Mary Washington    9.125
Chicago    9.111
Penn State-Behrend    9.111
Gustavus Adolphus    9.083
Salisbury    9.083
UW-Stevens Point    9.077

91-100
Muskingum    9.077
Elizabethtown    9.077
Southern Maine    9.063
Middlebury    9.000
SUNY-Farmingdale    9.000
Carleton    9.000
McMurry    9.000
Lakeland    9.000
Connecticut College    9.000
Scranton    9.000
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Re: Pool C
« Reply #1 on: January 20, 2006, 02:48:36 pm »
wow! three cciw teams in the top 12???  :o

I had been pretty sure we weren't getting a Pool C... even if the top teams get a few more losses... we might still have a shot.

Thanks for doing that Pat.

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Re: Pool C
« Reply #2 on: January 20, 2006, 02:50:05 pm »
Sure, though you should also thank Gordon Mann, who's been keeping the scores up to date in his not-so-spare time.
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Re: Pool C
« Reply #3 on: January 20, 2006, 03:29:39 pm »
wow! three cciw teams in the top 12???  :o

I had been pretty sure we weren't getting a Pool C... even if the top teams get a few more losses... we might still have a shot.

Thanks for doing that Pat.



I guess I'm missing the third one April, unless you meant to say top 15??
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Re: Pool C
« Reply #4 on: January 20, 2006, 06:14:26 pm »
wow! three cciw teams in the top 12???  :o

I had been pretty sure we weren't getting a Pool C... even if the top teams get a few more losses... we might still have a shot.

I'm not sure how you came to that dire conclusion about the CCIW's chances of getting a Pool C bid, April. The expansion to 18 Pool C bids almost guarantees that the power conferences will each get a second team into the dance, because it allows the non-conference results to better offset said conferences cannibalizing themselves -- and, of course, non-conference games are where the top teams in the power conferences make hay.
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Re: Pool C
« Reply #5 on: January 20, 2006, 06:32:50 pm »
wow! three cciw teams in the top 12???  :o

I had been pretty sure we weren't getting a Pool C... even if the top teams get a few more losses... we might still have a shot.

Thanks for doing that Pat.


Umm "15"  You must be getting too much of that California sun and it seems to be impairing your wheatie educated brain  ::)

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Re: Pool C
« Reply #6 on: January 20, 2006, 06:35:38 pm »
Umm "15"  You must be getting too much of that California sun and it seems to be impairing your wheatie educated brain  ::)

I think the problem is that she has too much garnish in her diet.  :D
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Re: Pool C
« Reply #7 on: January 20, 2006, 07:59:52 pm »
Umm "15"  You must be getting too much of that California sun and it seems to be impairing your wheatie educated brain  ::)

I think the problem is that she has too much garnish in her diet.  :D

Seeing as April is living is California she better double check to make sure it is really parsley.    8)

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Re: Pool C
« Reply #8 on: January 20, 2006, 08:07:47 pm »
Umm "15"  You must be getting too much of that California sun and it seems to be impairing your wheatie educated brain  ::)

I think the problem is that she has too much garnish in her diet.  :D

Seeing as April is living is California she better double check to make sure it is really parsley.    8)

Hey, now, watch it.  Not all Californians are into "fruits and nuts," you know.  You don't want to engage in stereotyping. 

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Re: Pool C
« Reply #9 on: January 20, 2006, 08:11:18 pm »
What an image - DC stoned out of his gourd! ;)

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Re: Pool C
« Reply #10 on: January 20, 2006, 08:55:50 pm »
Not only am I updating the scores, but I'm also in the Top 30 for QoWI!    :D

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Re: Pool C
« Reply #11 on: January 21, 2006, 12:13:49 am »
I'm not sure how you came to that dire conclusion about the CCIW's chances of getting a Pool C bid, April. The expansion to 18 Pool C bids almost guarantees that the power conferences will each get a second team into the dance, because it allows the non-conference results to better offset said conferences cannibalizing themselves -- and, of course, non-conference games are where the top teams in the power conferences make hay.

Except for the WIAC this year, which did poorly for their standards outside the conference.

No WIAC teams in the Top 30!  Oshkosh, Whitewater and Point (all 6-2 in the conference) all have multiple in-region nonconference losses.

Stout and La Crosse don't have any, but are 5-3 in conference.  There is no way any of those five teams are going 8-0 in the second half of the conference season.  In addition, each one of those teams except one will have another loss in the conference tourney.  So, the WIAC looks like they are out of luck.  :'(
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Re: Pool C
« Reply #12 on: January 27, 2006, 02:14:16 pm »
QOW index through games of Thursday, Jan. 26:

1-10
Worcester Polytech     11.938
Lawrence    11.917
Augustana    11.667
Amherst    11.286
Carnegie Mellon    11.182
St. John Fisher    11.167
Cortland State    11.133
York (Pa.)    11.133
Tufts    11.000
Trinity (Texas)    11.000
               
11-20
Bates    11.000
Wittenberg    10.923
Mississippi College    10.867
Occidental    10.857
Lincoln    10.857
Baldwin-Wallace    10.750
Albion    10.750
Hope    10.700
Illinois Wesleyan    10.667
Wooster    10.643
               
21-30
Gordon    10.571
Baruch    10.563
William Paterson    10.500
New York University    10.467
Fisk    10.444
Transylvania    10.412
UW-Oshkosh    10.400
Washington U.    10.400
North Central    10.364
Wartburg    10.357
               
31-40
Puget Sound    10.333
UW-La Crosse    10.278
Willamette    10.250
Endicott    10.231
Plymouth State    10.167
Calvin    10.167
MIT    10.071
Randolph-Macon    10.063
Carroll    10.000
Albright    9.929
               
41-50
UW-Stout    9.929
UW-Whitewater    9.923
Rochester    9.917
Maryville (Tenn.)    9.875
Ursinus    9.875
Widener    9.875
Johns Hopkins    9.857
Williams    9.824
Bluffton    9.818
Keene State    9.813
               
51-60
Mary Hardin-Baylor    9.800
New Jersey    9.786
Howard Payne    9.733
Virginia Wesleyan    9.722
Mount St. Mary    9.667
Trinity (Conn.)    9.667
Utica    9.643
New Jersey City    9.625
Wilkes    9.583
Lake Erie    9.583
               
61-70
Hanover    9.538
Loras    9.538
Bowdoin    9.538
St. Thomas    9.533
Messiah    9.533
Norwich    9.533
Catholic    9.500
Ramapo    9.500
Wheaton (Mass.)    9.500
Wilmington    9.500
               
71-80
Elizabethtown    9.400
Lakeland    9.400
Carleton    9.385
Salem State    9.375
Averett    9.333
Rutgers-Newark    9.294
Whitworth    9.286
Elmhurst    9.286
UW-Platteville    9.286
Oswego State    9.267
               
81-90
McMurry    9.214
Franklin    9.200
Milwaukee Engineering    9.200
Southwestern    9.154
Muskingum    9.133
Mass-Dartmouth    9.071
Alvernia    9.067
UW-Stevens Point    9.067
Western Connecticut    9.063
Westfield State    9.063
               
91-100
Scranton    9.063
Rhode Island College    9.059
Salisbury    9.000
Brandeis    9.000
Penn State-Behrend    9.000
Pomona-Pitzer    9.000
Nebraska Wesleyan    9.000
Bethany    8.938
Richard Stockton    8.933
Ohio Northern    8.923
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Re: Pool C
« Reply #13 on: January 27, 2006, 03:08:38 pm »
If we count the 1st QOWI teams as AQ's from their conferences, we're left with (I know regional records will skew things, but its the best we've got right now):

Tufts
Bates
Hope
IWU
Wooster
NYU
WashU
North Central
La Crosse
Willamette
Endicott
Calvin
MIT
Carroll
Stout
Whitewater
Rochester
Widener

Obviously this will not be the way it all works out, but these are the top 18 in QOWI who are not the highest in their respective conferences.  I hope I didn't miss anybody.
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Re: Pool C
« Reply #14 on: January 27, 2006, 03:49:04 pm »
The first thing I noticed on the list were the 3 UAA teams (WashU, NYU, Rochester) -- and immediately thought, well, there's no way they all get in.  But then realized that the top 4 UAA teams come from 3 different regions... uh, oh.  Chance for the NCAA to do something funny.

At this point I would expect CMU (assuming automatic bid) and NYU (relatively weak East Region) to get in... do WashU and Rochester deserve spots?