Minnesota Intercollegiate Athletic Conference

[VOJ]

You forgot to mention that the Gophers haven't made a meaningful bowl game in nearly 50 years

How dare you besmirch the Sun Bowl's good name?

I'll give you the Sun Bowl as one that the casual fan would recognize in a police line up of 3rd or 4th rung bowl games but, what about the Insight Bowl or the Music City Bowl or the Liberty Bowl these are what 5 star recruits dream of at night 

I am not sure you need 5 star recruits to win games in the Big Ten or D1.  Iowa has done pretty well without any the last few years.  Even won bowl games for the big ten when other big ten teams lose with 5 star recruits.   

Yea and it really helps when you get an idiot in the replay booth who does not understand what a completed TD pass looks like   

[WashedUp]

I think Cornish is an outstanding corner...he also plays well on special teams as he blocked a FG against SJU.  He has 6 picks on the season, so teams have tested him and he has made plays...and had a pick-6 against Gustavus.  Here is the thing if he can hold Waldvogel in check like the Johnnies did, the Tommies will get beat, Wartman is a back who can be contained and neither Tracy or Morse are great at throwing the football...

I'm not saying that Cornish isn't a good corner.  I haven't seen him play this season and have never really watched him closely before, but stats at corner can be very misleading.  Just because someone has 6 picks doesn't mean they're a stud.  For a great example of this, look to the NFL, where Nnamdi Asomugha has only 2 picks in the last 3 seasons. 

[Willy Wonka]

TC...I think you and Tmert need to be in the ring together, and we can make this a tag team affair by putting you with TDT and Tmert with Veek...I will officiate and we can do this in the wrestling room at SJU, should not be a problem securing the room BEFORE the Carleton game

Care to band together for the greater good here, TC? You can be Hogan and I'll be the Ultimate Warrior if it means taking shots at VOJ and tmerts. I bet TDT would even agree to be our Mouth of the South and pass us foreign objects...

[VOJ]

You forgot to mention that the Gophers haven't made a meaningful bowl game in nearly 50 years

How dare you besmirch the Sun Bowl's good name?

I'll give you the Sun Bowl as one that the casual fan would recognize in a police line up of 3rd or 4th rung bowl games but, what about the Insight Bowl or the Music City Bowl or the Liberty Bowl these are what 5 star recruits dream of at night 

Gopher football:  mediocre coaches, coaching mediocre players, doing mediocre things very well

40+ years of irrelevant football, celebration planned for Dinkytown after Illinois game

Last Big 10 Title:  1967, shared with Indiana and Purdue (I was not a gleam in Dad's eye yet)

Last outright title:  1941 (Dad not even alive yet)

[VOJ]

TC...I think you and Tmert need to be in the ring together, and we can make this a tag team affair by putting you with TDT and Tmert with Veek...I will officiate and we can do this in the wrestling room at SJU, should not be a problem securing the room BEFORE the Carleton game

Care to band together for the greater good here, TC? You can be Hogan and I'll be the Ultimate Warrior if it means taking shots at VOJ and tmerts. I bet TDT would even agree to be our Mouth of the South and pass us foreign objects...

Yea...I have always thought of you, TC and TDT as the moral compass of this board...

The greater good...funny, I was actually just going to referee but perhaps with you involved we can make this happen

[WithasilentK]

I think Cornish is an outstanding corner...he also plays well on special teams as he blocked a FG against SJU.  He has 6 picks on the season, so teams have tested him and he has made plays...and had a pick-6 against Gustavus.  Here is the thing if he can hold Waldvogel in check like the Johnnies did, the Tommies will get beat, Wartman is a back who can be contained and neither Tracy or Morse are great at throwing the football...

I'm not saying that Cornish isn't a good corner.  I haven't seen him play this season and have never really watched him closely before, but stats at corner can be very misleading.  Just because someone has 6 picks doesn't mean they're a stud.  For a great example of this, look to the NFL, where Nnamdi Asomugha has only 2 picks in the last 3 seasons.  

I'm saying he has six picks this year because he's always jumping for the pick.  That's not good defense, that's being selfish and putting your team in a bad spot a lot of the time.  If you need examples, look at the catch by a Carleton receiver that setup the game winning score last year.  QB pumps a 5-yard hitch, Cornish jumps hard, allows a catch down the sideline to setup a TD run the next play.  He's a good corner, but far from a great one.

Also, as to putting 8 in the box and putting a linebacker to jam with man to man and a safety:  My math may be wrong (it's not), but that's not possible for a slot receiver, and if Fritz is playing outside, you're not jamming him with a LB.  A smart receiver, especially one that has any quickness, will make a LB look silly trying to jam him if the LB isn't completely committed to jamming him, which they usually aren't; they're usually looking to get to their pass drops or read the run.

If you meant man to man on the outside with a LB and safety on Fritz, say hello to flood pass 90% of the time, the safety can't make that play unless he's leaving his corners on an absolute island.

[Touchdown Tommy]

Holy ish.  So much to get to so little time.  

One thing is certain:  The old geezers don't stand a chance (Little Wiener Doggie, W. Clark, and VOJ)...

[DustySJU]

Holy ish.  So much to get to so little time. 

One thing is certain:  The old geysers don't stand a chance (Little Wiener Doggie, W. Clark, and VOJ)...

No doubt..... all this wasted time... are you even up on the site yet???

[sjusection105]

Holy ish.  So much to get to so little time. 

One thing is certain:  The old geysers don't stand a chance (Little Wiener Doggie, W. Clark, and VOJ)...

No doubt..... all this wasted time... are you even up on the site yet???

Inquiring minds want to know what TDT has to say about the Auggies and he's spending his time talking smack about older members of The Johnnie Nation.......how unoriginal.

Shouldn't you be selling hockey equipment to some eastern European club team finananced by Russian cyberhackers

[Touchdown Tommy]

And...

We're Live.  Scouting the Auggies from Touchdown Tommy...  Remember patience is a virtue.  A few celebrities make an appearance this week including "The Big Kahuna"...

[retagent]

VOJ - I'm assumimg that the reference to the idiot in the replay booth not knowing what a TD pass looks like is a reference to last Saturday's Indiana/Iowa tilt that I addressed a few pages back. I, too, thought that it was a TD until I saw the low angle replay. It showed, at least to my aged eyes, that the receiver's foot never touched the ground inbounds. You could always see air between his foot and the ground. Do you disagree?

[WithasilentK]

Oh this is great...

Did some reading of TMQ on ESPN today.  A quote:

"Cards cornerback Dominique Rodgers-Cromartie has nine interceptions in his past 19 starts, the kind of stat announcers praise, but he gambles constantly and gets torched. Carolina ran a simple hitch and go to Steve Smith -- Smith took one step backward as if to catch a hitch, then shot down the field. Rodgers-Cromartie so totally bought on the hitch action, gambling for an interception, that he was barely in the picture as Smith caught a 50-yard touchdown pass."

He also mentioned the Hamline-Carleton game as the obscure college score of the week, but I'd just rather ignore that game.

Disclaimer:  I usually disagree with 80% of TMQ's thinking, but have to love this one.

[DutchFan2004]

VOJ - I'm assumimg that the reference to the idiot in the replay booth not knowing what a TD pass looks like is a reference to last Saturday's Indiana/Iowa tilt that I addressed a few pages back. I, too, thought that it was a TD until I saw the low angle replay. It showed, at least to my aged eyes, that the receiver's foot never touched the ground inbounds. You could always see air between his foot and the ground. Do you disagree?

Thanks for clearing that up for me.  I did not see the Iowa game as I was in Pella.  I had no idea what he was talking about.

[cobbernation]

C'mon guys, the Johnnies have now started 8-0 or better in 5 of the last 7 seasons, and they have looked better in every single other one than they have this year.  That doesn't mean I'm not happy about it, or that I don't hope they keep winning.  I just think the team has some pretty glaring weaknesses. 

The Vikings starting 7-1 and becoming THE storyline and epicenter of the professional football world doesn't happen every year.  Or even every decade.  It's now happened twice in my lifetime.  Personally, I think the Vikings this season have been far more impressive than the Johnnies. 

Let's look at the Vikings season and the 7-1 start...they were lucky to beat SF on a once in a lifetime catch by a 4th string WR...when truth be told if Delta O'Neal holds onto a ball that hits him in the hands late in the 4th quarter, he walks into the end zone with the clinching TD...by the way, Brett throwing a pick to loose the game is 2X more likely than the TD pass to win it...

If TJack was our qb we wouldn't even think about engineering a game winning drive because he is incapable of handling pressure well or pressure at all.  Lets not forget that Favre has about 43 game winning drives. 

It's still amazing the vikings have a loss and we still talk as if they are 2-5.  Favre didn't have a terrible game vs. the Niners.  He didn't pass the greatest but threw for 2 TD's and 300 yds.  The first 300 yd game for the vikings in a 3 year span.

Final thought and changing directions.  How hard is it for gopher athletes to stay out of trouble with the law.  Two basketball players, one of who is Royce White from Hopkins has been suspended for the first 2 games or more.  Then a DB for the football team was arrested and jailed for failing to cooperate with university police!

[ScoutTeamTommie]

C'mon guys, the Johnnies have now started 8-0 or better in 5 of the last 7 seasons, and they have looked better in every single other one than they have this year.  That doesn't mean I'm not happy about it, or that I don't hope they keep winning.  I just think the team has some pretty glaring weaknesses. 

The Vikings starting 7-1 and becoming THE storyline and epicenter of the professional football world doesn't happen every year.  Or even every decade.  It's now happened twice in my lifetime.  Personally, I think the Vikings this season have been far more impressive than the Johnnies. 

Let's look at the Vikings season and the 7-1 start...they were lucky to beat SF on a once in a lifetime catch by a 4th string WR...when truth be told if Delta O'Neal holds onto a ball that hits him in the hands late in the 4th quarter, he walks into the end zone with the clinching TD...by the way, Brett throwing a pick to loose the game is 2X more likely than the TD pass to win it...

If TJack was our qb we wouldn't even think about engineering a game winning drive because he is incapable of handling pressure well or pressure at all.  Lets not forget that Favre has about 43 game winning drives. 

It's still amazing the vikings have a loss and we still talk as if they are 2-5.  Favre didn't have a terrible game vs. the Niners.  He didn't pass the greatest but threw for 2 TD's and 300 yds.  The first 300 yd game for the vikings in a 3 year span.

Final thought and changing directions.  How hard is it for gopher athletes to stay out of trouble with the law.  Two basketball players, one of who is Royce White from Hopkins has been suspended for the first 2 games or more.  Then a DB for the football team was arrested and jailed for failing to cooperate with university police!

Bernard Berrian did drop a number of well thrown balls that game as well.