No worries, repete. It was a pleasure.
Temerton; your words are wise and the weigh heavily. I'm still inclined to wait before I believe. What a kid who has been knocked back thinks is recruiting and what an reasonable observer would think is recruiting would be far apart, I think. If Caruso is doing the dirty on people then it won't be long and a chorus of legitimate gripes will ring forth. I fully expect this to happen, by the way, it just isn't happening yet.
I have no specific knowledge of UST's recruiting or what hazzben claims to be their over-recruiting, so I'm making no claim there. As for what constitutes recruiting, I went through the process as the father of a young man who was recruited by programs from D-1 through D-3. There are mass mailings, invitations to camps, invitations to games, coaches trolling through the high schools and lots of other stuff that is part of recruiting in the generic sense but isn't what I would consider a specific effort to get a player to attend your school, which is what I think is at issue here. And it may be more difficult in D-3 since there are no scholarships, as such (ahem). But if the head coach gets involved in trying to get the kid's commitment to attend the school, I have no doubt that that is a recruited player. Believe me, the player and the parents know when it's the case.
As for waiting for the "chorus of legitimate gripes," well, good luck on that. The SEC, including Nick Saban, has been over-recruiting for years but no one really cares, notwithstanding the kids that get their scholarships pulled simply because they didn't turn out to be as big, or fast, or good as the coaches originally thought. Nobody (but the kids and their families) really cares, and I suspect people care even less at the D-3 level.
Oh, and AO, I'm not talking about attrition as kids go through the years in school. That there are 2 or 3 seniors on the Saint John's basketball team means exactly bupkis in this discussion.