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Re: MBB: Michigan Intercollegiate Athletic Association
« Reply #48570 on: July 30, 2020, 05:20:34 pm »
"Michigan Intercollegiate Athletic Association (MIAA) Presidents’ Council has voted to postpone conference competition and conference tournaments for cross country, football, men’s and women’s golf, men’s and women’s soccer, and volleyball. The Conference will develop schedules for these sports to take place later in the academic year. The MIAA is committed to offering engaging athletic experiences for student-athletes in these sports with extensive team activities this fall to include practice, skill development, strength & conditioning, leadership, and professional development opportunities.

Adrian College, Calvin University, and Trine University are exploring options to compete in all fall sports that they normally sponsor. Olivet College will explore options for competing in cross country, golf, and tennis this fall. All MIAA member institutions will continue to follow the NCAA recommendations outlined in the Resocialization to Sport – Developing Standards for Competition and Sport document for preseason resocialization to campus, practice, and competition this fall."

According to the Adrian, Calvin and Trine athletics websites, they are looking at options for playing an Independent/Non Conference schedule this fall.  More news to come on this...

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Re: MBB: Michigan Intercollegiate Athletic Association
« Reply #48571 on: July 30, 2020, 08:57:53 pm »
According to the Adrian, Calvin and Trine athletics websites, they are looking at options for playing an Independent/Non Conference schedule this fall.  More news to come on this...

It will be interesting to see if anything comes of this. I would imagine a lot depends on if the NCAA ends up sponsoring championships for fall sports this fall. I think it is one thing to try to make a go of it if there is still going to be a national tournament but if not I'm not sure it makes a ton of sense to go against the flow here.
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Re: MBB: Michigan Intercollegiate Athletic Association
« Reply #48572 on: July 31, 2020, 08:59:20 am »
According to the Adrian, Calvin and Trine athletics websites, they are looking at options for playing an Independent/Non Conference schedule this fall.  More news to come on this...

It will be interesting to see if anything comes of this. I would imagine a lot depends on if the NCAA ends up sponsoring championships for fall sports this fall. I think it is one thing to try to make a go of it if there is still going to be a national tournament but if not I'm not sure it makes a ton of sense to go against the flow here.

There can't possibly he championships this fall.
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Re: MBB: Michigan Intercollegiate Athletic Association
« Reply #48573 on: July 31, 2020, 10:05:11 am »

Adrian College, Calvin University, and Trine University are exploring options to compete in all fall sports that they normally sponsor.

According to the Adrian, Calvin and Trine athletics websites, they are looking at options for playing an Independent/Non Conference schedule this fall.  More news to come on this...

Good luck. It's pretty ridiculous, and you could argue irresponsible, that they're even considering playing D3 football right now.

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Re: MBB: Michigan Intercollegiate Athletic Association
« Reply #48574 on: July 31, 2020, 01:27:04 pm »

Adrian College, Calvin University, and Trine University are exploring options to compete in all fall sports that they normally sponsor.

According to the Adrian, Calvin and Trine athletics websites, they are looking at options for playing an Independent/Non Conference schedule this fall.  More news to come on this...

Good luck. It's pretty ridiculous, and you could argue irresponsible, that they're even considering playing D3 football right now.

You could so argue. You could also argue the risk--while real--is reasonable. There already is risk to playing football, as the CDC website highlights:

https://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/volumes/65/wr/mm6552a2.htm

The following sentence in the summary from the CDC website might catch your attention:  "During 2005–2014, a total of 28 traumatic brain and spinal cord injury deaths in high school and college football were identified (2.8 deaths per year)."  Despite knowing of that ongoing risk, individuals and institutions continue to believe that playing the sport is worthwhile.

Moving from there, to the CDC data at another spot of their website (related to COVID-19), let me begin by pointing out it contains data breaking down deaths by age groups. Among the data (compiled through July 29), it shows there are just over 6.5 million Americans in the over-85 age group, and of that number, a total of 44,055 have died of COVID. Meanwhile, for the age group population of 15-24, there are nearly 43 million people. Of those who fit in that age category, a total of 202 have died of COVID. I suspect that most of those young people who died of COVID were already health-compromised, not healthy athletes who play football.

So is college football in the age of COVID irresponsible? I don't think the answer as obvious as your comment states.


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Re: MBB: Michigan Intercollegiate Athletic Association
« Reply #48575 on: July 31, 2020, 06:57:30 pm »
You can't pass spinal injuries and concussions on to teammates, friends, professors or relatives who then pass it on to others.

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Re: MBB: Michigan Intercollegiate Athletic Association
« Reply #48576 on: July 31, 2020, 11:44:07 pm »
You can't pass spinal injuries and concussions on to teammates, friends, professors or relatives who then pass it on to others.

Or those who might be more susceptible or have conditions that could make it more risky.
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Re: MBB: Michigan Intercollegiate Athletic Association
« Reply #48577 on: August 01, 2020, 09:40:51 am »
My point of view is that any player in any sport that is able to take part in even gerrymandered completion has a much better chance to maintain valuable skill sets over those who don't.  Practice, and competition in a rigidly controlled setting imo is preferable to groups of students playing pick up games.  I think Adrian, Calvin and Trine are doing the responsible thing by making sure their student athlete's are closely monitored and receive proper coaching, medical attention etc.

 
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Re: MBB: Michigan Intercollegiate Athletic Association
« Reply #48578 on: August 01, 2020, 01:20:08 pm »
My point of view is that any player in any sport that is able to take part in even gerrymandered completion has a much better chance to maintain valuable skill sets over those who don't.  Practice, and competition in a rigidly controlled setting imo is preferable to groups of students playing pick up games.  I think Adrian, Calvin and Trine are doing the responsible thing by making sure their student athlete's are closely monitored and receive proper coaching, medical attention etc.

The trick becomes ... if you start doing more for the athletes than you do the regular students on campus you start to run afoul of a lot of things. Athletes aren't supposed to get preferential treatment and if you start to monitor or give them extra things to keep them "safe" and not the rest of campus ...

Don't get me wrong, I agree with the idea of doing what is right by the student-athlete, but I did read something from a president earlier who talked about the slippery slope of testing athletes more than regular students ... or doing something to keep athletes safe and not dancers or theater people, etc. and how that isn't something that would be not only well received but allowable.
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Re: MBB: Michigan Intercollegiate Athletic Association
« Reply #48579 on: Yesterday at 12:55:53 pm »
My point of view is that any player in any sport that is able to take part in even gerrymandered completion has a much better chance to maintain valuable skill sets over those who don't.  Practice, and competition in a rigidly controlled setting imo is preferable to groups of students playing pick up games.  I think Adrian, Calvin and Trine are doing the responsible thing by making sure their student athlete's are closely monitored and receive proper coaching, medical attention etc.

The trick becomes ... if you start doing more for the athletes than you do the regular students on campus you start to run afoul of a lot of things. Athletes aren't supposed to get preferential treatment and if you start to monitor or give them extra things to keep them "safe" and not the rest of campus ...

Don't get me wrong, I agree with the idea of doing what is right by the student-athlete, but I did read something from a president earlier who talked about the slippery slope of testing athletes more than regular students ... or doing something to keep athletes safe and not dancers or theater people, etc. and how that isn't something that would be not only well received but allowable.
By phrasing my post around student athletes it was not my intention to suggest they get preferential treatment.  I would expect that singers, dancers, musicians, actors et.al would need pretty much the same monitoring as athletes, and the entire general student body.
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