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Re: FB: American Rivers Conference
« Reply #42585 on: December 14, 2018, 09:59:43 am »
It's slow this time of year, so...

Augustana, SD is leaving D2 and moving to D1.  Their conference, the NSIC has teams in Nebraska, the Dakotas, Minnesota, and former IIAC school Upper Iowa. 

Would any schools in our conference take a look at making the move?  I wouldn't think so, but maybe fans here know more about their favorite school.

BVU has a decent sized endowment, but have been hemorrhaging students recently.  Now down to about 700 in Storm Lake.  Would they consider a move to try to shake things up?  Sort of similar to Upper Iowa?

Luther has a decent sized endowment, large annual giving, large student body, are in the process of an athletics facilities overhaul, recruits Minnesota well.  Would they be interested?

Dubuque has a decent sized endowment, large annual giving, a student body now around 2k, nice facilities.  Would the Spartans be interested?  My take is Dubuque looks towards Chicago...D2 options are basically Minnesota or Missouri based.  I don't believe Dubuque would go for a D2 move with what is out there at this time. 

Any other schools to think of?
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Re: FB: American Rivers Conference
« Reply #42586 on: December 16, 2018, 01:44:36 pm »
As much as I believed Upper Iowa was incorrect in moving to D2 (they have acclimated decently) I think Augie's decision is worse b/c they will need to disassemble their football program to Non-scholarship ala Drake which means little to no chance at post season football: and if they do make it, will run into a Missouri Valley team in round one.

As far as other Iowa schools that could replace the Vikings in the NSIC, Morningside had gone that route and won't again (NAIA National Champs in Football, thank you very much), but id Upper Iowa did it from a low vantage point, I think BVU should try since their closeness to Sioux Falls, Augie, Wayne State and SW Minn St would reduce some travel costs while they build scholarships.  They'd be the 3rd 'Beavers' in the NSIC with Bemidji and Minot St.

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Re: FB: American Rivers Conference
« Reply #42587 on: December 16, 2018, 02:44:32 pm »
Why would Augustana need to go non-scholarship (like Drake)?  In looking over their website, among the possibilities they are exploring are the NDState, USD and SDState conference...  It would certainly be an option, but...

Now, I happen to think this D1 talk is a bit of a crazy idea, but they have been highly successful in their D2 conference and in national D2 competition.  They seem to have very aggressive leadership -- both their immediate past president and the new one.  Their strategic plan appears to be very aggressive toward growth.

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Re: FB: American Rivers Conference
« Reply #42588 on: December 16, 2018, 02:53:13 pm »
Auggie also has that Sanford money backing them.  So financially they are set.

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Re: FB: American Rivers Conference
« Reply #42589 on: December 16, 2018, 07:07:25 pm »
If all that Sanford $ was doing things for Augie, they'd be making the D2 playoffs 'every' year.  They don't; in fact when they were in the same conference as NDSU, SDSU, UNI, USD, etc., they made the post season twice, 1988 and '89.  one and done both times. 

Similar to Morningside, Augie was never able to compete year in and year out with the big boys.  I thought they should have gone NAIA, D3 or non scholarship when the 'old' NCC dissolved. They are at least 'competitive' now in D2, but far from D1 material

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Re: FB: American Rivers Conference
« Reply #42590 on: December 16, 2018, 07:13:56 pm »
From what I have read, it makes it seem like Sanford is the one demanding the move.  Sounds like the Augie president was initially reluctant and I believe one AD left the school over this.  But, a school president will follow the money. 

My issue is what does the school do if the Sanford money dries up?  Augie has a modest endowment and average annual giving for a school that size.  Sanford money might be able to fund the move for now.  But nothing says that money will always be there. 

Morningside and Augustana were two peas in a pod in the old NCC days.  Morningside moving to the NAIA reduced athletics costs, has seen on field success (won a football natty this weekend), and enrollment has increased. 
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