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Re: FB: Liberty League
« Reply #51525 on: April 11, 2019, 12:22:14 pm »

 Nabi appeared to have been benched on a few occasions last year

I do not think this was the case at all. He was battling injuries

Like I said, I didn't have anything definitive on why we saw #17 at QB for Ithaca in a few different situations last year.  Hopefully he is fully healthy heading into preseason.  I eagerly await the boots on the ground intel from posters her about Joe G's "playoff attitude."  I feel like it would have to be something really untenable for a majority of Brockport players/coaches to want him gone.

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Re: FB: Liberty League
« Reply #51526 on: April 11, 2019, 12:52:10 pm »
At first I thought, huge upgrade for Ithaca.  Now, I am a bit more reserved.  Unless he transferred for spring semester, there is no way he is allowed to participate in Spring ball.  Summer camp is only 2 weeks.  Is that enough time to learn a new system?  Obviously, he is a talented kid, but this move (as a senior with no more years of eligibility) is a little confusing.  I am sure Nabi, will play it like the smart, respectable kid he seems to be.....but, how does this affect him (and the rest of the team) for the rest of this year and next?


Doesn't he have sit another year?  I know there's the D1_D2/D3 exemption and the graduate transfer exemption, but didn't think there was one for D3-D3.  Also, as a second time transfer, I assume more restrictions apply.

At any rate, and I'm sure I'm an outlier, this doesn't strike me as an upgrade.  Ithaca's on the upswing, Nabi is plenty good, and totally unclear how much of Joe G's success, vs. his own, plus all the character issues.  And, if you ask the RPI defense, I'd bet they view Nabi as the superior player.

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Re: FB: Liberty League
« Reply #51527 on: April 11, 2019, 12:53:19 pm »
There is no D-III rule as long as someone is eligible at the school they are transferring from.

Some conferences have rules about transferring from one conference school to another, but that isn't germane here.
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Re: FB: Liberty League
« Reply #51528 on: April 11, 2019, 12:59:20 pm »
There is no D-III rule as long as someone is eligible at the school they are transferring from.

Some conferences have rules about transferring from one conference school to another, but that isn't germane here.

Thanks for the clarification.

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Re: FB: Liberty League
« Reply #51529 on: April 11, 2019, 01:14:50 pm »
At first I thought, huge upgrade for Ithaca.  Now, I am a bit more reserved.  Unless he transferred for spring semester, there is no way he is allowed to participate in Spring ball.  Summer camp is only 2 weeks.  Is that enough time to learn a new system?  Obviously, he is a talented kid, but this move (as a senior with no more years of eligibility) is a little confusing.  I am sure Nabi, will play it like the smart, respectable kid he seems to be.....but, how does this affect him (and the rest of the team) for the rest of this year and next?


Doesn't he have sit another year?  I know there's the D1_D2/D3 exemption and the graduate transfer exemption, but didn't think there was one for D3-D3.  Also, as a second time transfer, I assume more restrictions apply.

At any rate, and I'm sure I'm an outlier, this doesn't strike me as an upgrade.  Ithaca's on the upswing, Nabi is plenty good, and totally unclear how much of Joe G's success, vs. his own, plus all the character issues.  And, if you ask the RPI defense, I'd bet they view Nabi as the superior player.


There's no getting around Joe G played about as poorly as you could've against RPI.  However, using a one game sample size to determine player quality is obviously a little disingenuous.  I'm also unsure how the RPI defense would appropriately rate Nabi seeing that he did not play against RPI last year.  Going by career statistics it isn't particularly close, even going on a per game basis to account for Joe playing three seasons vs Nabi's two.  Ultimately the cool thing is we will find out when we see who is under center for the Bombers come early September.

I also still see people citing "character issues" without anything concrete being discussed as to what that means.  For all I know he could be a horrible teammate or player to coach but no one has put anything definitive out here on these internet streets.  If these character issues are so prevelant I'm surprised he was voted a team captain as a junior. 

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Re: FB: Liberty League
« Reply #51530 on: April 11, 2019, 01:57:15 pm »
At first I thought, huge upgrade for Ithaca.  Now, I am a bit more reserved.  Unless he transferred for spring semester, there is no way he is allowed to participate in Spring ball.  Summer camp is only 2 weeks.  Is that enough time to learn a new system?  Obviously, he is a talented kid, but this move (as a senior with no more years of eligibility) is a little confusing.  I am sure Nabi, will play it like the smart, respectable kid he seems to be.....but, how does this affect him (and the rest of the team) for the rest of this year and next?


Doesn't he have sit another year?  I know there's the D1_D2/D3 exemption and the graduate transfer exemption, but didn't think there was one for D3-D3.  Also, as a second time transfer, I assume more restrictions apply.

At any rate, and I'm sure I'm an outlier, this doesn't strike me as an upgrade.  Ithaca's on the upswing, Nabi is plenty good, and totally unclear how much of Joe G's success, vs. his own, plus all the character issues.  And, if you ask the RPI defense, I'd bet they view Nabi as the superior player.


There's no getting around Joe G played about as poorly as you could've against RPI.  However, using a one game sample size to determine player quality is obviously a little disingenuous.  I'm also unsure how the RPI defense would appropriately rate Nabi seeing that he did not play against RPI last year.  Going by career statistics it isn't particularly close, even going on a per game basis to account for Joe playing three seasons vs Nabi's two.  Ultimately the cool thing is we will find out when we see who is under center for the Bombers come early September.

I also still see people citing "character issues" without anything concrete being discussed as to what that means.  For all I know he could be a horrible teammate or player to coach but no one has put anything definitive out here on these internet streets.  If these character issues are so prevelant I'm surprised he was voted a team captain as a junior.

To tell you the truth, I am happy nobody is posting anything about character issues here.  The question of why he chose to leave a top 10 ranked program, where he was a captain, is perplexing.  Perhaps Ithaca offers  a major/grad degree that was not available at Brockport?  The fact is he made (at best) a lateral move in football quality to a team that has a QB (named all conference 2nd team has a Sophomore).

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Re: FB: Liberty League
« Reply #51531 on: April 14, 2019, 07:01:44 pm »
So when did D3 Football become D1 Basketball as far as transfers? That said, Good luck to Joe Germinerio at Ithaca, although I have to say Nabi has been a solid performer for the Bombers, so it will be interesting to see what the final impact this transfer by Joe G has on the Bombers. See you at Butterfield in the Fall!
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Re: FB: Liberty League
« Reply #51532 on: April 15, 2019, 11:14:51 am »
So when did D3 Football become D1 Basketball as far as transfers? That said, Good luck to Joe Germinerio at Ithaca, although I have to say Nabi has been a solid performer for the Bombers, so it will be interesting to see what the final impact this transfer by Joe G has on the Bombers. See you at Butterfield in the Fall!

Eh, the two best players on IC's 1988 title team were transfers, as was IC's all-time leading rusher. It's happened

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Re: FB: Liberty League
« Reply #51533 on: April 15, 2019, 12:07:15 pm »
So when did D3 Football become D1 Basketball as far as transfers? That said, Good luck to Joe Germinerio at Ithaca, although I have to say Nabi has been a solid performer for the Bombers, so it will be interesting to see what the final impact this transfer by Joe G has on the Bombers. See you at Butterfield in the Fall!

Eh, the two best players on IC's 1988 title team were transfers, as was IC's all-time leading rusher. It's happened
It is a bit different when the transfer was an All American and leaves his team with one year left in eligibility from a college that does have graduate programs available. It is possible that the choice was an academic graduate program preference, but there is probably a story here, for sure. From my view, it matters not , it is a free country, I do think Joe G could have a tremendous upside next season for the Bombers......I just hope he doesn't repeat another 24-27 passing performance against the Statesmen this fall :o
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Re: FB: Liberty League
« Reply #51534 on: April 16, 2019, 11:32:04 am »
dlip hopes Nabi beats him out...just sayin ;)
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Re: FB: Liberty League
« Reply #51535 on: April 16, 2019, 02:35:44 pm »
dlip hopes Nabi beats him out...just sayin ;)
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Re: FB: Liberty League
« Reply #51536 on: April 16, 2019, 02:44:29 pm »
I am anxious to hear from some of the Brockport faithful.  It does sound like the team has some good potential QB's, but losing an All American sure changes the team outlook (see Hobart 2018).

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Re: FB: Liberty League
« Reply #51537 on: April 16, 2019, 08:01:55 pm »
There is no D-III rule as long as someone is eligible at the school they are transferring from.

Some conferences have rules about transferring from one conference school to another, but that isn't germane here.

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Re: FB: Liberty League
« Reply #51538 on: April 18, 2019, 12:23:43 pm »
Coach DeWall has taken to Twitter to start introducing the incoming FY class who've committed to Hobart. Has released 16 of 26-30 (give or take) names this week already on his @Coach_DeWall handle. I have aggregated them on http://gohobart.blogspot.com as well.
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Re: FB: Liberty League
« Reply #51539 on: April 18, 2019, 07:55:10 pm »
I enjoyed the IntheD3FBHuddLLe podcast.

As for Louisiana College playing Stetson, I wonder if they just could not find an opponent.

With the restoration of the 10-team ASC football conference (adding associates Southwestern and Texas Lutheran), there are only 2 weekends to find a game, and there are not many options for the Wildcats for a non-conference game.

Former opponent Millsaps is playing cross-town rival Belhaven and Westminster MO, which is likely a more winnable game.

Former opponent Huntingdon is playing in-state rival Birmingham-Southern and Guilford. (Huntingdon probably wanted some variety.)

LaCollege played Wesley in 2014. (No rematch here.)

The recent other non-conference games have been against Alcorn State and several NAIA schools.

Out here on the archipelago, it is tough to find opponents that nearby and of similar mission and vision.

Thanks for the excellent podcast. (I am really looking forward to the Rowan Linfield game.)