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Re: FB: Liberty League
« Reply #51705 on: August 16, 2019, 07:52:57 am »
I dunno about the new Hobart logo. The old one was kinda hokey and cartoony but it felt right for a small college. Plus the dude looked like a clean shaven Carter Pewterschmidt from Family Guy. The new logo looks like it wants to sell me life insurance. Also why is its face orange? Unsettling.

The William Smith logo is a big upgrade though. A much better avian representation than the new Wesleyan Extremely Angry Bird logo.
Agree that the Heron is a nice image. I will miss Bart as he had a personality while the new image is a bit corporate and we may need to rename him Bartholomae as he is too stylish just to be named Bart . Remaining Statesmen is important at least. Back in the seventies there was a move to become the Hobart Hawks(matching birds), but that was short-lived due to the anti war movement and considered too bellicose for the college that was the SDS protest headquarters for Western NY. Go Bartholomae!
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Re: FB: Liberty League
« Reply #51706 on: August 16, 2019, 08:12:11 am »
Congratulations to Hobart's Kyle Hackett on being selected to the pre-season D3.com All American team. In his first two seasons, Kyle is 19-19 on FGs and 80-82 on PATs. I think he will be an important factor in a few of the games this year .
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Re: FB: Liberty League
« Reply #51707 on: August 16, 2019, 09:51:42 am »
Union's 2019 roster is out. The first thing I look for is, who didn't return? I'm pleased to find that answer seems to be no one. Union's dynamic skill position foursome. QB Will Bellamy, RB Ike Irabor and WRs Griffin Beal and Andre Ross Jr. are ALL in place. The O-line returns 4 starters and the Defense returns 5 with strong, experienced replacements. The biggest graduation losses were All American LB Jack Reilly and  DB Tucker Newman but experienced George Reed, Reilly's backup, is back for a 5th year (he lost a season to injury) and former RB Travis Demby has been moved to the D to help in Newman's old spot.
Union doesn't get many D1 transfers so seeing former Holy Cross recruit WR Will Sirmon in camp is interesting. Sirmon is from Louisiana like QB Bellamy so there may be some dynamic chemistry there. I can't wait to get it going.     
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Re: FB: Liberty League
« Reply #51708 on: August 16, 2019, 12:28:20 pm »
Union should bring Dutch back

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Re: FB: Liberty League
« Reply #51709 on: August 16, 2019, 12:48:32 pm »
Union should bring Dutch back

Now that's a great Mascot! I heard Dutch has to keep his finger in the dike until another LL Football title returns to Schenectedy(it has been a while).... could it be this year?????
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Re: FB: Liberty League
« Reply #51710 on: August 16, 2019, 09:33:39 pm »
gaaaahhh whatever that eldritch abomination was supposed to be, it can stay dead please.

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Re: FB: Liberty League
« Reply #51711 on: August 17, 2019, 09:15:56 am »
Union should bring Dutch back

Now that's a great Mascot! I heard Dutch has to keep his finger in the dike until another LL Football title returns to Schenectedy(it has been a while).... could it be this year?????

+K Bartman, I have been trying to figure out what a Dutchman is, now there is video confirmation.  Now, if we can just nail down exactly what a "Bomber" looks like.....

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« Reply #51712 on: August 17, 2019, 10:30:14 am »
well based on the failed re-branding initiative back towards the beginning of this decade, a Bomber almost looked like a flying squirrel or a lake monster or (I forget what Door #3 was). When I was in school there was a ragged looking old-timey flying ace type costume, but I never saw it anywhere but football games so maybe it was an unofficial mascot.

As the years have passed I find myself more receptive to the Flying Squirrel concept logo and a little bummed it didn't get more positive traction. A little minor league baseball-esque, but it was unique and well-drawn.

Ultimately, however, I am in pre-acceptance that the Bombers name is going to change at some point. It survived 9/11, but perhaps our culture was not then what it is now. Really surprised it made it past the 2013 Boston Marathon tragedy without being mothballed. Eventually something else terrible will happen, Bombers will make people think of the incident and folks will get uncomfortable, and the name will be retired. It is absolutely inevitable IMO.

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Re: FB: Liberty League
« Reply #51713 on: August 17, 2019, 11:31:09 am »
well based on the failed re-branding initiative back towards the beginning of this decade, a Bomber almost looked like a flying squirrel or a lake monster or (I forget what Door #3 was). When I was in school there was a ragged looking old-timey flying ace type costume, but I never saw it anywhere but football games so maybe it was an unofficial mascot.

As the years have passed I find myself more receptive to the Flying Squirrel concept logo and a little bummed it didn't get more positive traction. A little minor league baseball-esque, but it was unique and well-drawn.

Ultimately, however, I am in pre-acceptance that the Bombers name is going to change at some point. It survived 9/11, but perhaps our culture was not then what it is now. Really surprised it made it past the 2013 Boston Marathon tragedy without being mothballed. Eventually something else terrible will happen, Bombers will make people think of the incident and folks will get uncomfortable, and the name will be retired. It is absolutely inevitable IMO.

Proof of my ignorance toward these PC times, I would never make the connection between the IC Bombers and anything 9/11 (or similar) related. 

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Re: FB: Liberty League
« Reply #51714 on: August 17, 2019, 11:38:35 am »
you wouldn't, and I don't, but a lot of people in the community and new to the IC community probably would.

It's going to become untenable at some point. You don't want people in the stands cringing and tugging their collars when the PA announcer says "first down Bombers" or "(NAME) checks into the game for the Bombers" - I get it. Honestly, I do.

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Re: FB: Liberty League
« Reply #51715 on: August 17, 2019, 12:25:40 pm »
well based on the failed re-branding initiative back towards the beginning of this decade, a Bomber almost looked like a flying squirrel or a lake monster or (I forget what Door #3 was). When I was in school there was a ragged looking old-timey flying ace type costume, but I never saw it anywhere but football games so maybe it was an unofficial mascot.

As the years have passed I find myself more receptive to the Flying Squirrel concept logo and a little bummed it didn't get more positive traction. A little minor league baseball-esque, but it was unique and well-drawn.

Ultimately, however, I am in pre-acceptance that the Bombers name is going to change at some point. It survived 9/11, but perhaps our culture was not then what it is now. Really surprised it made it past the 2013 Boston Marathon tragedy without being mothballed. Eventually something else terrible will happen, Bombers will make people think of the incident and folks will get uncomfortable, and the name will be retired. It is absolutely inevitable IMO.

Proof of my ignorance toward these PC times, I would never make the connection between the IC Bombers and anything 9/11 (or similar) related.

In 2001, I ran the USA Today NFL suicide pool. (Later rebranded survivor pool.) Lots of people maintained multiple entries and used different handles to distinguish them. As you know, the NFL season starts a little bit before the 11th of September, and one of the people who entered had one entry labeled "Bombers" and another labeled "Terror". Sometime after that fateful Tuesday morning, I looked at that list and did a double-take, and asked him how they hell he knew.

Turned out he had two buddies who wanted to enter. One was an Ithaca grad (Bombers) and the other was a Western Maryland grad -- that school is now McDaniel (Green Terror).

Bizarre.
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Re: FB: Liberty League
« Reply #51716 on: August 17, 2019, 01:27:18 pm »
Any word on the pecking order of the QB group at Ithaca?

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Re: FB: Liberty League
« Reply #51717 on: August 17, 2019, 07:12:37 pm »
Any word on the pecking order of the QB group at Ithaca?

....of course you mean Bomber QB1, Bomber QB2, BomberQB3, etal?
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Re: FB: Liberty League
« Reply #51718 on: August 18, 2019, 11:47:25 am »
Union's 2019 roster is out. The first thing I look for is, who didn't return? I'm pleased to find that answer seems to be no one. Union's dynamic skill position foursome. QB Will Bellamy, RB Ike Irabor and WRs Griffin Beal and Andre Ross Jr. are ALL in place. The O-line returns 4 starters and the Defense returns 5 with strong, experienced replacements. The biggest graduation losses were All American LB Jack Reilly and  DB Tucker Newman but experienced George Reed, Reilly's backup, is back for a 5th year (he lost a season to injury) and former RB Travis Demby has been moved to the D to help in Newman's old spot.
Union doesn't get many D1 transfers so seeing former Holy Cross recruit WR Will Sirmon in camp is interesting. Sirmon is from Louisiana like QB Bellamy so there may be some dynamic chemistry there. I can't wait to get it going.     

The Dutchmen look pretty good on paper Bill. Dlip sees some potential Freshman that may make some noise and certainly credits Coach B for moving a very athletic and strong Travis Demby to CB. Putting some of our best athletes on D is one of the moves that has lead to the change in culture on D. Overall dlip figures U to be right in the hunt for the title. The D will be inexperienced in spots so that will be interesting to watch. Looking forward to 6 home games this season!
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Re: FB: Liberty League
« Reply #51719 on: August 18, 2019, 11:49:28 am »
Union should bring Dutch back


The yellow bowl cut has always been a favorite of dlip's since childhood. To be able to pull that ****ing style off says a lot.
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