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Re: FB: Liberty League
« Reply #53415 on: July 28, 2020, 10:20:02 am »
Sure going to be a strange fall in the LL.  From what I understand, the Hobart football players are all going to show up to school (staggered days) with the regular student body.   Coaches are allowed to have practice during the fall (or the entire year, I guess). Rather than restricting football to certain weeks, I think the NCAA has restricted to a total number of days of participation over the academic year?  That could translate to full fall practices, but that would eliminate the ability to play in the spring?  Or play a little in the spring and a little in the fall, with weight training days sprinkled in between?  Not to mention, do players participate in the Fall, take the fall off, or do the seniors simply hang up the cleats and call it a career?   

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Re: FB: Liberty League
« Reply #53416 on: July 28, 2020, 12:51:18 pm »
114 days of athletic related activities to be used as desired by the coach / AD; throughout the academic year.

No more "traditional (fall)" and "non-traditional (spring)" season designation from the NCAA.

It's my understanding that the NCAA rule saying a player can retain eligibility if the team plays less than 50% of it's allowable contests this year is still in effect, as is the countable semester rule they made to allow for anything an athlete is able to do this year to not count against them.

I've heard from a few people that there is still an unknown regarding full padded practices in the spring; but that the NCAA will be addressing this in due time.

I'm still VERY skeptical of teams playing games in the spring....I just don't think many D3 athletic departments have the resources to pull it off.

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Re: FB: Liberty League
« Reply #53417 on: July 28, 2020, 03:34:07 pm »
114 days of athletic related activities to be used as desired by the coach / AD; throughout the academic year.

No more "traditional (fall)" and "non-traditional (spring)" season designation from the NCAA.

It's my understanding that the NCAA rule saying a player can retain eligibility if the team plays less than 50% of it's allowable contests this year is still in effect, as is the countable semester rule they made to allow for anything an athlete is able to do this year to not count against them.

I've heard from a few people that there is still an unknown regarding full padded practices in the spring; but that the NCAA will be addressing this in due time.

I'm still VERY skeptical of teams playing games in the spring....I just don't think many D3 athletic departments have the resources to pull it off.



................and it is not fair to the spring student athletes, who lost an entire season, vs. the fall student athletes who played a full season last year.

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« Reply #53418 on: July 28, 2020, 04:16:08 pm »
I think the LL schools can figure out a way to play in the Spring, but not if testing will still be required for every athlete 72 hours prior to each contest.  With a 7 team league, my guess would be that there will be a 5 game max set by the coaches.  Why bother playing 6 games and losing the potential extra year of eligibility.

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« Reply #53419 on: July 28, 2020, 04:18:29 pm »
114 days of athletic related activities to be used as desired by the coach / AD; throughout the academic year.

No more "traditional (fall)" and "non-traditional (spring)" season designation from the NCAA.

It's my understanding that the NCAA rule saying a player can retain eligibility if the team plays less than 50% of it's allowable contests this year is still in effect, as is the countable semester rule they made to allow for anything an athlete is able to do this year to not count against them.

I've heard from a few people that there is still an unknown regarding full padded practices in the spring; but that the NCAA will be addressing this in due time.

I'm still VERY skeptical of teams playing games in the spring....I just don't think many D3 athletic departments have the resources to pull it off.



................and it is not fair to the spring student athletes, who lost an entire season, vs. the fall student athletes who played a full season last year.

But, haven't most of those spring seniors graduated?  They really didn't have a chance to defer graduation by the time they were sent home.  The fall group of seniors may be enticed to return to school, given the chance to play in the spring.

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Re: FB: Liberty League
« Reply #53420 on: July 29, 2020, 09:32:59 am »
114 days of athletic related activities to be used as desired by the coach / AD; throughout the academic year.

No more "traditional (fall)" and "non-traditional (spring)" season designation from the NCAA.

It's my understanding that the NCAA rule saying a player can retain eligibility if the team plays less than 50% of it's allowable contests this year is still in effect, as is the countable semester rule they made to allow for anything an athlete is able to do this year to not count against them.

I've heard from a few people that there is still an unknown regarding full padded practices in the spring; but that the NCAA will be addressing this in due time.

I'm still VERY skeptical of teams playing games in the spring....I just don't think many D3 athletic departments have the resources to pull it off.



................and it is not fair to the spring student athletes, who lost an entire season, vs. the fall student athletes who played a full season last year.

But, haven't most of those spring seniors graduated?  They really didn't have a chance to defer graduation by the time they were sent home.  The fall group of seniors may be enticed to return to school, given the chance to play in the spring.

Even though football and basketball are my far and away first true loves (it occurs at inception as a Philadelphian), I'm really just against the whole concept of the spring athletes getting affected in any way, shape or form (shortened season, less resources such as access to fields and typical practice and game schedules and times, SID access, trainers, etc.) due to fall and winter sports (who had full seasons last go round) infringing on them.

While it is true what you stated about the seniors from the spring, some need the extra semester (or two) to graduate as some took a redshirt, others are in a 4 + 1 program to get a master's or are working towards a master's and have a season of eligibility left.

Additionally, I think about the spring athletes who will be juniors or seniors who already lost a full season and might either lose another one (as I personally feel that we are deep doo doo for another 12 - 18 months)...........or might have another one disrupted by the movement of fall and winter sports.

I know that football is the 800 pound gorilla in the sports world. While baseball is our "pasttime"..........football is our "passion". But I'd bet the student athletes, their parents and the coaches would beg to differ that any one sport is more important than their sport.

The only place where I agree that football should move to the spring is at the D-I level as the revenue at many big time programs funds the entire athletic program. That is far from the case at the D-II and D-III level.

I hope that I am wrong, but I don't see most sports (especially those involving contact........football, lacrosse, wrestling, basketball) be played until 2021 - 2022.

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Re: FB: Liberty League
« Reply #53421 on: August 21, 2020, 07:14:51 pm »
Hobart completed student check in today. So far so good.  Ontario County has only  had 300 or so cases, so hopefully all goes well. Hoping that a small school in an isolated county in Upstate NY, can have a safe and successful fall term.

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« Reply #53422 on: August 21, 2020, 09:52:13 pm »
Hobart completed student check in today. So far so good.  Ontario County has only  had 300 or so cases, so hopefully all goes well. Hoping that a small school in an isolated county in Upstate NY, can have a safe and successful fall term.

Mayberry is buzzing now with check-in at Alfred U. and Alfred State underway. Classes begin Monday, August 24 with AU offering all classes online for first two weeks, then in-person classes in socially-distanced classrooms with all expected to wear masks. Spoke with a few parents from Long Island and Connecticut this morning. They seemed pleased to learn that Allegany County (population 46,000) had only 85 COVID-19 cases thus far, with 83 recovered and just 1 fatality. Just hoping students take the social distancing seriously now, so that perhaps restrictions can eventually be lifted later without interruption of on-campus classes.

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Re: FB: Liberty League
« Reply #53423 on: August 22, 2020, 08:01:51 am »
Hobart completed student check in today. So far so good.  Ontario County has only  had 300 or so cases, so hopefully all goes well. Hoping that a small school in an isolated county in Upstate NY, can have a safe and successful fall term.

Mayberry is buzzing now with check-in at Alfred U. and Alfred State underway. Classes begin Monday, August 24 with AU offering all classes online for first two weeks, then in-person classes in socially-distanced classrooms with all expected to wear masks. Spoke with a few parents from Long Island and Connecticut this morning. They seemed pleased to learn that Allegany County (population 46,000) had only 85 COVID-19 cases thus far, with 83 recovered and just 1 fatality. Just hoping students take the social distancing seriously now, so that perhaps restrictions can eventually be lifted later without interruption of on-campus classes.
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Re: FB: Liberty League
« Reply #53424 on: August 26, 2020, 03:17:16 pm »
At the risk of kicking the proverbial dead horse, until the insurance / liability waiver issue is resolved, you can pretty much guarantee zero sports will be played at the D3 level.
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« Reply #53425 on: August 26, 2020, 05:58:28 pm »
At the risk of kicking the proverbial dead horse, until the insurance / liability waiver issue is resolved, you can pretty much guarantee zero sports will be played at the D3 level.

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Re: FB: Liberty League
« Reply #53426 on: September 03, 2020, 06:33:00 pm »
Was walking the pup last night, smelled fresh cut grass, tinge of autumn air, and heard the tom tom drums of the local high school band practicing in the distance.  It's going to be a tough fall.....

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« Reply #53427 on: September 04, 2020, 06:13:55 pm »
Hobart completed student check in today. So far so good.  Ontario County has only  had 300 or so cases, so hopefully all goes well. Hoping that a small school in an isolated county in Upstate NY, can have a safe and successful fall term.

Mayberry is buzzing now with check-in at Alfred U. and Alfred State underway. Classes begin Monday, August 24 with AU offering all classes online for first two weeks, then in-person classes in socially-distanced classrooms with all expected to wear masks. Spoke with a few parents from Long Island and Connecticut this morning. They seemed pleased to learn that Allegany County (population 46,000) had only 85 COVID-19 cases thus far, with 83 recovered and just 1 fatality. Just hoping students take the social distancing seriously now, so that perhaps restrictions can eventually be lifted later without interruption of on-campus classes.
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     It took a global pandemic to cancel the Statesmen-Saxon Warrior opener this season. I hope the Mayberry matchup will be rescheduled next year and each campus thrives safely and their students make the most of the live campus experience this Fall. The Statesmen will be using the extra time to practice some new packages that should surprise the mighty Saxon Warriors when we next meet ;)

Yes, those Pumpkinheads always seem to exhaust the playbook when they're playing Pep's Saxons. Can imagine Rankl will have a few tricks up his sleeve to get the Saxons back on track in the long series. Hobart has a 39-35 edge (with 4 ties) in the series, having won the last nine games. Last time Alfred beat Hobart was in 1995, a 35-14 win. At present, AU 2021 schedule has Saxons opening at Hobart Friday, Sept. 3.

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Re: FB: Liberty League
« Reply #53428 on: September 06, 2020, 06:12:16 pm »
Union football is presently holding a polling contest identifying Union's most memorable games. I've been very fortunate to witness most of the nominated contests.(it means I'm old)...Here's the link if you want to vote or just reminisce about 50 years of Union football. My personal #1 goes way back to 1981. A 10-7 program changing victory over a ranked Albany State team. Union was probably a +20 underdog that day and shocked the Great Danes with a monumental defensive effort. It was a foundation for the decades of Union wins to come....https://unionathletics.com/news/2020/9/2/vote-for-unions-most-memorable-football-games.aspx
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Re: FB: Liberty League
« Reply #53429 on: September 17, 2020, 07:54:50 pm »
The D3football.com Preseason All American Team was announced last week and nobody made mention of the Liberty League players that were honored. OT Tim Driscoll from Union and Hobart LB Emmett Forde were named to the First Team. Union's dynamic RB Ike Irabor and St. Lawrence OT Max Warden were Second Teamers. Congratulations...great to see the Liberty League get national recognition.

Want to watch some football?...In a follow up to my earlier post, Union has announced that for 10 consecutive weeks starting this Saturday they will live stream some of the most memorable football games in Union College history. After nominations and balloting a game of the week will be announced on Sunday. This week's game is a replay of last year's Union vs. Ithaca battle. https://unionathletics.com/news/2020/9/11/join-us-for-union-footballs-most-memorable-games.aspx
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