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Re: Heartland Collegiate Athletic Conference
« Reply #7020 on: May 15, 2018, 01:19:46 pm »
I guess we'll see for sure.... whatever happens.  I really want them to stay in the NCAA.

I don't think they'd go NAIA without providing the 36 scholarships.
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Re: Heartland Collegiate Athletic Conference
« Reply #7021 on: May 15, 2018, 03:01:36 pm »
The scholarship limit in the NAIA is 24 for football.
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Re: Heartland Collegiate Athletic Conference
« Reply #7022 on: May 16, 2018, 01:34:39 am »
The scholarship limit in the NAIA is 24 for football.

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Do you know if most of the schools split those such that all players on the roster receive some money, similar to most of the NCAA Div II schools?  I assume that is probably a decision that each college/university would individually make.
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Re: Heartland Collegiate Athletic Conference
« Reply #7023 on: May 17, 2018, 08:52:40 am »
Forgive me if this has been answered previously, but is there a specific Division III conference Thomas More would like to compete in? Is that conference(s) hesitant to accept them and if so, why?

Thomas More has a great program and I hope they find a DIII home.

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Re: Heartland Collegiate Athletic Conference
« Reply #7024 on: May 17, 2018, 11:50:40 am »
Forgive me if this has been answered previously, but is there a specific Division III conference Thomas More would like to compete in? Is that conference(s) hesitant to accept them and if so, why?

Thomas More has a great program and I hope they find a DIII home.

The HCAC won't take them (MSJ-driven).  They tried the MIAA to no avail.. and the OAC doesn't need them. 
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Re: Heartland Collegiate Athletic Conference
« Reply #7025 on: May 17, 2018, 01:30:23 pm »
I know the first time TMC applied for the HCAC, they were denied due to academic and financial issues.  That was when TMC had a very small endowment and accreditation issues.  Not sure about the subsequent applications.

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Re: Heartland Collegiate Athletic Conference
« Reply #7026 on: May 18, 2018, 03:15:12 am »
What about the SAA? While they're a bit out of the footprint, they could be a travel partner with Centre. TMC is only 116 miles from the Colonels and currently Centre is rather far from the rest of the conference. It's 229 miles from Centre to Sewanee which is the closest to them plus more than 500 miles from both Hendrix and Millsaps.
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Re: Heartland Collegiate Athletic Conference
« Reply #7027 on: May 18, 2018, 02:50:49 pm »
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If you are out there, Anthony.. congrats to your coach on his retirement.  I remember Wayne Perry well from the Hanover Camps and playing against his teams.  Quality human being.
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Re: Heartland Collegiate Athletic Conference
« Reply #7028 on: May 18, 2018, 03:30:43 pm »
Forgive me if this has been answered previously, but is there a specific Division III conference Thomas More would like to compete in? Is that conference(s) hesitant to accept them and if so, why?

Thomas More has a great program and I hope they find a DIII home.

The HCAC won't take them (MSJ-driven).  They tried the MIAA to no avail.. and the OAC doesn't need them.

We can't just trade Wilmington for TMC?  I mean, while not technically in OH it's basically Cincy so that counts IMO.  I'd love the OAC to bring in TMC.  They'd raise the competitive level across the board and also get the OAC in the Cincy metro in a much more meaningful way.

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Re: Heartland Collegiate Athletic Conference
« Reply #7029 on: May 25, 2018, 07:42:30 am »
Forgive me if this has been answered previously, but is there a specific Division III conference Thomas More would like to compete in? Is that conference(s) hesitant to accept them and if so, why?

Thomas More has a great program and I hope they find a DIII home.

The HCAC won't take them (MSJ-driven).  They tried the MIAA to no avail.. and the OAC doesn't need them.

We can't just trade Wilmington for TMC?  I mean, while not technically in OH it's basically Cincy so that counts IMO.  I'd love the OAC to bring in TMC.  They'd raise the competitive level across the board and also get the OAC in the Cincy metro in a much more meaningful way.

man, I wish this could happen.  It would be a win for all involved.
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Re: Heartland Collegiate Athletic Conference
« Reply #7030 on: May 25, 2018, 01:38:57 pm »
Forgive me if this has been answered previously, but is there a specific Division III conference Thomas More would like to compete in? Is that conference(s) hesitant to accept them and if so, why?

Thomas More has a great program and I hope they find a DIII home.

The HCAC won't take them (MSJ-driven).  They tried the MIAA to no avail.. and the OAC doesn't need them.

We can't just trade Wilmington for TMC?  I mean, while not technically in OH it's basically Cincy so that counts IMO.  I'd love the OAC to bring in TMC.  They'd raise the competitive level across the board and also get the OAC in the Cincy metro in a much more meaningful way.

I had heard a couple of years ago that Wilmington was actively seeking to move to different conference. Whatever happened with that?

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Re: Heartland Collegiate Athletic Conference
« Reply #7031 on: July 26, 2018, 08:42:56 am »
Defiance's football web page coaches section notes they have appointed a new head coach already.  As the previous new release about last year's HC leaving, it noted they were posting it as a 10 month position rather than a full time position.  I assume that would be considered an "Interim" HC position just for this year since it is so close to this new season in having been placed in this situation. 

Also, I was somewhat shocked to see that the enrollment is way down now in the mid 500 range as compared to several years ago. I realize, they have usually been below 1,000 for years, however, getting to that range, I would think is a concerning situation.  Olivet (MI) was like that for years, yet has rebounded and appears stable just over 1,000 students.  Yet, there are some NCAA schools with small enrollments that have sustained stable football programs, such as Eureka, IL.

Anyone have any info on Defiance's situation regarding all the above, Cave2, Pat? Or anyone else here in HCAC?
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Re: Heartland Collegiate Athletic Conference
« Reply #7032 on: July 27, 2018, 09:48:45 am »

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Re: Heartland Collegiate Athletic Conference
« Reply #7033 on: July 27, 2018, 09:54:13 am »
They also landed in the ACAA for D3 for their last year.

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Re: Heartland Collegiate Athletic Conference
« Reply #7034 on: July 27, 2018, 12:07:01 pm »
Defiance's football web page coaches section notes they have appointed a new head coach already.  As the previous new release about last year's HC leaving, it noted they were posting it as a 10 month position rather than a full time position.  I assume that would be considered an "Interim" HC position just for this year since it is so close to this new season in having been placed in this situation. 

Also, I was somewhat shocked to see that the enrollment is way down now in the mid 500 range as compared to several years ago. I realize, they have usually been below 1,000 for years, however, getting to that range, I would think is a concerning situation.  Olivet (MI) was like that for years, yet has rebounded and appears stable just over 1,000 students.  Yet, there are some NCAA schools with small enrollments that have sustained stable football programs, such as Eureka, IL.

Anyone have any info on Defiance's situation regarding all the above, Cave2, Pat? Or anyone else here in HCAC?

If they're in the mid 500 range does nearly every kid at DC play a sport?  It has to be a huge %.