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Re: MBB: Centennial Conference
« Reply #7170 on: August 10, 2020, 05:05:31 pm »


The off season has hit August and with it has come news of Division III Fall Championships being canceled for the same reason Winter Championships were derailed and Spring Championships pulled earlier this year: COVID 19 Pandemic.

The decision came on the heals of a vast majority of DIII institutions curtailing fall sports and many pushing winter sports starts on their campuses until January at the earliest.

What does this mean for the 2020-21 season of college basketball? Specifically what does it mean for Division III? Will there be a basketball season? Will it be a six-week-or-so-sprint? Or is there a way to adjust things?

On the Mid-Summer edition of the Hoopsville Podcast, we try and get some answers to those questions. We talk to one coach who actually has put together a proposal to start the season in January, with some changes to make it work including crowning a champion in April. And we talk to an administrator who also serves on the DIII Management Council to better under stand the decisions made to cancel championships and if shift a season like basketball is even possible.

Plus, we honor the best of the best in the last decade of Division III women's basketball. Gordon Mann joins us to discuss how the 2nd D3hoops.com Women's All-Decade came together (and hints of work on the men's list).

Guests include:
- Philip Ponder, Oglethorpe men's coach
- Jason Fein, Bates Athletics Director and DIII Management Council member
- Gordon Mann, D3hoops.com Senior Editor

And of course, there is always the Hoopsville Notebook. A few things we take note of that have made headlines since the beginning of July. We also tip our hat to a few of those who have always helped the show be it's best.

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Re: MBB: Centennial Conference
« Reply #7171 on: August 31, 2020, 09:15:31 am »
As we approach September, is there any word yet on second semester basketball or does it look like there may not be a season? I ask because today Swarthmore has closed its campus to anyone not attending the college.

And while it may not be a popular opinion, I truly feel that Swarthmore should be awarded a National Championship. Throughout my life, many National Championships came as a result of voting. Swarthmore was #1 in ever single poll last year. Every Single Poll. I would have no problem with an asterisk being placed next to them in record books, but it just feels hollow that a team that was #1 for the entire year isn't named National Champs. Again, I know it isn't a popular opinion, I just think Swat deserves it.

Here is hoping the second semester brings back at least a partial schedule and we can enjoy what we all love.

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Re: MBB: Centennial Conference
« Reply #7172 on: August 31, 2020, 10:38:47 am »
Schools can claim whatever they want.  Most of those "national titles" so many football schools claim on the basis of poll voting aren't officially titles.  Nothing stops Swat from putting a banner up in the gym.


As for playing in the Spring.  I believe there will be basketball and probably a tournament of some kind.  Do I expect every school will participate?  No way.  Schools are going to need some cover somewhere - either national infection numbers that show clear progress or a successful and widespread vaccine program.  Schools that currently have students on campus will probably find a way to play sports after the new year.  Schools that aren't letting anyone on campus are much more up in the air.
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Re: MBB: Centennial Conference
« Reply #7173 on: August 31, 2020, 03:17:24 pm »
And while it may not be a popular opinion, I truly feel that Swarthmore should be awarded a National Championship. Throughout my life, many National Championships came as a result of voting. Swarthmore was #1 in ever single poll last year. Every Single Poll. I would have no problem with an asterisk being placed next to them in record books, but it just feels hollow that a team that was #1 for the entire year isn't named National Champs. Again, I know it isn't a popular opinion, I just think Swat deserves it.

Well, it's the NCAA that awards the official national championship, so if you can get them on board with this idea, why not.

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Re: MBB: Centennial Conference
« Reply #7174 on: August 31, 2020, 03:39:14 pm »
Swarthmore was #1 in ever single poll last year. Every Single Poll.

Ken Massey has Randolph-Macon ranked No. 1 and Swarthmore at No. 6, so...

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Re: MBB: Centennial Conference
« Reply #7175 on: August 31, 2020, 05:07:18 pm »
And while it may not be a popular opinion, I truly feel that Swarthmore should be awarded a National Championship. Throughout my life, many National Championships came as a result of voting. Swarthmore was #1 in ever single poll last year. Every Single Poll. I would have no problem with an asterisk being placed next to them in record books, but it just feels hollow that a team that was #1 for the entire year isn't named National Champs. Again, I know it isn't a popular opinion, I just think Swat deserves it.

Well, it's the NCAA that awards the official national championship, so if you can get them on board with this idea, why not.

The NCAA has already said there is no trophy to hand out. And you have to play the game to get the trophy, right? Sucks, but ...
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Re: MBB: Centennial Conference
« Reply #7176 on: August 31, 2020, 05:07:41 pm »
Swarthmore was #1 in ever single poll last year. Every Single Poll.

Ken Massey has Randolph-Macon ranked No. 1 and Swarthmore at No. 6, so...

Having seen both teams ... Massey can have all the algorithms he wants, but I wouldn't agree. :)
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Re: MBB: Centennial Conference
« Reply #7177 on: September 01, 2020, 09:11:53 am »
Ursinus played RMC once and Swat twice last year.  Bears lost all three games but all were close, 54-50 to RMC, 88-86 and 81-76 to Swat.  Both were excellent teams.  I watched all three games and think RMC was better defensively and Swat offensively. In my opinion,  Swat was the better team overall. But, I still think you need to win the games to win the championship.

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Re: MBB: Centennial Conference
« Reply #7178 on: September 01, 2020, 10:51:31 am »
Definitely have to play the games.

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Re: MBB: Centennial Conference
« Reply #7179 on: September 01, 2020, 01:45:32 pm »
Definitely have to play the games.

Agreed, you can't play the games for a national title for as many decades as we have and now arbitrarily hand it to the top ranked team at the time. Wheaton College (IL) didn't even win their conference 2 seasons ago, but Aston Francis put on the greatest scoring display in D3 history to pull them right into the Final Four. All it takes is one bad game for Swat to get the boot, so awarding a title is disingenuous to all the other teams.
Besides, would we do that for the baseball season when some teams literally played less than 10 games this past spring?
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Re: MBB: Centennial Conference
« Reply #7180 on: September 02, 2020, 10:12:49 am »
Wheaton College (IL) didn't even win their conference 2 seasons ago, but Aston Francis put on the greatest scoring display in D3 history to pull them right into the Final Four.

As an aside, I wish the NCAA or whomever owns the broadcast would start posting more of these games on YouTube.  I would love to see that one again.

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Re: MBB: Centennial Conference
« Reply #7181 on: September 02, 2020, 03:11:12 pm »
Wheaton College (IL) didn't even win their conference 2 seasons ago, but Aston Francis put on the greatest scoring display in D3 history to pull them right into the Final Four.

As an aside, I wish the NCAA or whomever owns the broadcast would start posting more of these games on YouTube.  I would love to see that one again.

The final four games are on NCAA.com .. the championships (since 2013) should be, but CBS Sports can be weird with supply those.

Previous rounds could be found at the schools who host the games. That said, many of them have streaming providers who ask/require their archives be blown out ever year or two.
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Re: MBB: Centennial Conference
« Reply #7182 on: September 02, 2020, 03:51:43 pm »
Thanks Dave! That is helpful. And, it does seem as though most schools only go back 1-2 seasons.

I know it is a lot of work, but I wish more schools moved games to YouTube.

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Re: MBB: Centennial Conference
« Reply #7183 on: September 02, 2020, 05:39:10 pm »
Thanks Dave! That is helpful. And, it does seem as though most schools only go back 1-2 seasons.

I know it is a lot of work, but I wish more schools moved games to YouTube.

It is more than work ... because of music and other things that tend to run in the background, YT can be a pain in the ass and randomly remove games until you clear whatever trademark and copyright infringements the automated bots pick up in the video.
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Re: MBB: Centennial Conference
« Reply #7184 on: September 23, 2020, 06:26:23 pm »
Will there be a 2020-21 NCAA Division III basketball season? If so what will it look like? What will the post-season look like?

It is on the mind of student-athletes, coaches, administrators, parents, and fans for several weeks, if not months, now. We are finally understanding what it may look like as a number of decisions or proposals are now making their way around Division III.

In this month's podcast, Dave McHugh not only downloads all the things being considered and the likely outcomes, but tries to give listeners an understanding of how much is still unknown despite some things becoming more clear.

McHugh also talks to Texas-Dallas women's basketball coach Polly Thomason for her take. Thomason has been in the Division III Women's Basketball National Committee for several years and is this season's chair of the committee. She also serves on the WBCA Board of Governors. Thomason not only provides her perspective on much of what is going on not only in Division III, but in women's basketball as well.

And of course, there is always the Hoopsville Notebook. Unfortunately, there is some sad news in the Notebook this month, but also news to celebrate especially when it comes to DIII alums making news in the NBA.

You can listen to the podcast here: https://bit.ly/3kMl0rZ

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