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BB: Midwest All-Region
« on: April 19, 2008, 09:21:04 pm »
So I had a little time to kill but thought I would make an all region team as of right now-basically a list of guys to watch but only 1 player per position with 5 pitchers. I did this rather quickly and crudely so feel free to throw out other people that I most likely missed.

I mainly looked at average and slugging for hitters to be fair if some people played more games. I think most of the hitters have an average close to or above .400 and slugging above .650. Pitchers W/L, era, K/BB ratio.

C-  Doug Coe USP: .432 7 HRS
1B- Sean Claugherty CSS: .448 6 HRS
2B- Dan Kaczrowski Hamline: .469
3B- Nick Beaman Ripon: .424 6 HRS
SS- Justin Bushong USP: .398 5 HRS
3 OF-
                Chris Bullis UST: .613 avg
   Andrew Bennett Hamline: .412 6 HRS
   Storm Gram LaCrosse: .396 3HRS
5 SP-
   Peter Burg CSS: 6-0  3.01era 38/9 K/BB
   Jeremy Rubens UWO: 6-1 2.47era
   Adam Dominick UWW: 5-1 1.74era  38/6 K/BB
   Josh Roiger Hamline: 4-2 1.67era   53/7 K/BB
   Joe Lange Platteville: 3-1 1.69era 34/13 K/BB

Just to pick 3 Honorable mentions
Matt Pexa UST
Adam Frost St Norbert
Darrin Carlson CSS

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Re: All Region
« Reply #1 on: April 19, 2008, 09:40:23 pm »
All are definitely deserving, but I'll take Frost over Bushong, UWO's Brad Demmin over Claugherty, and WW's Aaron Dott over Roiger (admitted never seen him pitch, though) or Lange.

Frost is better, Demmin is slugging about .700, and Dott is plain filthy.

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Re: All Region
« Reply #2 on: April 19, 2008, 09:48:51 pm »
All are definitely deserving, but I'll take Frost over Bushong, UWO's Brad Demmin over Claugherty, and WW's Aaron Dott over Roiger (admitted never seen him pitch, though) or Lange.

Frost is better, Demmin is slugging about .700, and Dott is plain filthy.

I agree I think Frost is better and will more likely be all region. Claugherty is better than Demmin in my opinion and slugging .850 not to mention he hit an oppo bomb at the dome impressed me enough. Ive never seen Roiger pitcher but stats impressive Dotts not as much. It was kind of hard simply cuz havent seen some guys place before.

But I did it mainly on stats if it was the best players obviously Dott, Adian Kummett, Lonnie Robinson would be on there.


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Re: All Region
« Reply #3 on: April 19, 2008, 10:17:04 pm »
All are definitely deserving, but I'll take Frost over Bushong, UWO's Brad Demmin over Claugherty, and WW's Aaron Dott over Roiger (admitted never seen him pitch, though) or Lange.

Frost is better, Demmin is slugging about .700, and Dott is plain filthy.

I agree I think Frost is better and will more likely be all region. Claugherty is better than Demmin in my opinion and slugging .850 not to mention he hit an oppo bomb at the dome impressed me enough. Ive never seen Roiger pitcher but stats impressive Dotts not as much. It was kind of hard simply cuz havent seen some guys place before.

But I did it mainly on stats if it was the best players obviously Dott, Adian Kummett, Lonnie Robinson would be on there.
I hope you get a chance to see Dott throw sometime. When he's not in one of his walkfest funks, it's silly how good he is.

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Re: All Region
« Reply #4 on: April 22, 2008, 09:40:05 pm »
WW's Aaron Dott over Roiger (admitted never seen him pitch, though) or Lange.

Hamlines Josh Roiger threw a 4 hit shutout with no walks tonight against St. Thomas so looks like he is for real.

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Re: All Region
« Reply #5 on: April 22, 2008, 10:17:45 pm »
WW's Aaron Dott over Roiger (admitted never seen him pitch, though) or Lange.

Hamlines Josh Roiger threw a 4 hit shutout with no walks tonight against St. Thomas so looks like he is for real.
Yep, that's good enough for me. Make it Lange, then.

That Hamline sweep makes things interesting in the MIAC ... and for St. Thomas. What a series for Hamline. A go-ahead two-out, three-run homer in the last inning of Game 1 leads to a win in Game 2 against a team that doesn't lose home conference games. Hamline release says StT was swept for the first time in 62 MIAC DH's (six seasons). StT was last swept at home 10 years ago.

EDIT: I saw this "MIAC Profiles of Excellence: Josh Roiger" on Hamline's schedule page. Turns out he looked at going to St. Thomas.
http://www.collegesportingnews.com/article.asp?articleid=91068
« Last Edit: April 22, 2008, 10:34:38 pm by OshDude »

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Re: All Region
« Reply #6 on: April 23, 2008, 07:15:23 am »
Roiger has always gone out of his way to stick it to Denning since Denning wouldn't recruit him out of hs and has done a pretty good job of it:
2008: W, 7ip, 0er, 4h, 0bb, 4k & S, 1ip, 0er, 1h, 0bb, 2k
2007: W, 6ip, 2er, 5h, 1bb, 5k & L, 2ip, 2er, 2h, 1bb, 2k (started game2 after pitching 6inn game1)
2006: W, 7ip, 2er, 4h, 0bb, 6k & W, 9ip, 1er, 12h, 1bb, 7k (in playoffs)
2005: ND, 1.1ip, 2er, 3h, 0bb, 1k

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Re: All Region
« Reply #7 on: April 23, 2008, 11:16:30 am »
Roiger has always gone out of his way to stick it to Denning since Denning wouldn't recruit him out of hs and has done a pretty good job of it:
2008: W, 7ip, 0er, 4h, 0bb, 4k & S, 1ip, 0er, 1h, 0bb, 2k
2007: W, 6ip, 2er, 5h, 1bb, 5k & L, 2ip, 2er, 2h, 1bb, 2k (started game2 after pitching 6inn game1)
2006: W, 7ip, 2er, 4h, 0bb, 6k & W, 9ip, 1er, 12h, 1bb, 7k (in playoffs)
2005: ND, 1.1ip, 2er, 3h, 0bb, 1k
That's awesome! +1
I like Roiger as much as Aaron Dott now. Wish I could have seen him pitch. Sounds like a bulldog, with your post and the profile as evidence. Who knows, maybe I'll see him in Oshkosh at regionals ...

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Re: All Region
« Reply #8 on: April 23, 2008, 12:18:48 pm »
i used to play for st. thomas and roiger always does seem to pitch really well against us.  He used to be sort of a quirky junkballin lefty.  I was at the game yesterday and he definately is bringing it harder than he used to.  Still, his game is control and groundballs - think tom glavine

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Re: All Region
« Reply #9 on: April 23, 2008, 01:07:37 pm »
The kid can spot up as good as anybody in the conference. He will not overpower you. College coaches need to take notice at guys like this as much as the guys that light up the gun.

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Re: All Region
« Reply #10 on: April 25, 2008, 03:19:10 am »
C-  Doug Coe USP: .432 7 HRS
1B- Sean Claugherty CSS: .448 6 HRS
2B- Dan Kaczrowski Hamline: .469
3B- Nick Beaman Ripon: .424 6 HRS
SS- Justin Bushong USP: .398 5 HRS
3 OF-
                Chris Bullis UST: .613 avg
   Andrew Bennett Hamline: .412 6 HRS
   Storm Gram LaCrosse: .396 3HRS
5 SP-
   Peter Burg CSS: 6-0  3.01era 38/9 K/BB
   Jeremy Rubens UWO: 6-1 2.47era
   Adam Dominick UWW: 5-1 1.74era  38/6 K/BB
   Josh Roiger Hamline: 4-2 1.67era   53/7 K/BB
   Joe Lange Platteville: 3-1 1.69era 34/13 K/BB

Just to pick 3 Honorable mentions
Matt Pexa UST
Adam Frost St Norbert
Darrin Carlson CSS


Looks pretty good. I might slip Kyle Johnson, the big catcher from Concordia-Moorhead somewhere in there too; he's having an excellent year, especially in conf.

I'm not too sure about your pitching selections though. Personally, seeing a lot of UMAC, MIAC, and WIAC teams play I would have to leave Burg and maybe Rubens off the list. I don't like Rubens because he's primarily a reliever. Unless there's a spot for reliever, I would keep one off. Not taking anything away from him because he's a solid pitcher; however, for a reliever to get onto the list, he should have lights out numbers... and a .250 BA against, with only 22 k's in 57 innings isn't too special. Again, not taking anything away; still, there might be better candidates. I'm not sure I'm that overly impressed with Burg's stuff and his stats may be misleading considering the teams in the UMAC.

There might be better candidates. My all-region would probably be at this point:

C- Doug Coe USP
C- Matt Pexa St Thomas
IF- Sean Claugherty CSS
IF- Darrin Carlson CSS
IF- Dan Kaczrowski Hamline
IF-Dan Leslie St Thomas
IF- Nick Beaman Ripon

OF- Andrew Bennett Hamline
OF-Chris Bullis St Thomas
OF- Storm Gram UW Lax
OF- Jared Yost St. Norbert

SP- Josh Roiger Hamline (5-2, 3 saves, 59 k's/51 inn, 1.41 ERA)
SP- Adam Dominick Whitewater (7-1, 56 k's/52 inn, 1.71 ERA)
SP- Aaron Dott Whitewater (5-0, 58 k's/43 inn, 2.72 ERA, .185 BA against)
SP- James Murrey Macalester (6-1, 1 save, 51 k's/42 inn, 1.93 ERA, .175 BA against)
RP*- Jeremy Rubens (8-1, 15 Apps., 2.21 ERA)

Honorables:
Kyle Johnson
Adam Frost
Darrin Carlson


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Re: All Region
« Reply #11 on: April 25, 2008, 04:17:40 am »
I'm not too sure about your pitching selections though. Personally, seeing a lot of UMAC, MIAC, and WIAC teams play I would have to leave Burg and maybe Rubens off the list. I don't like Rubens because he's primarily a reliever. Unless there's a spot for reliever, I would keep one off. Not taking anything away from him because he's a solid pitcher; however, for a reliever to get onto the list, he should have lights out numbers... and a .250 BA against, with only 22 k's in 57 innings isn't too special. Again, not taking anything away; still, there might be better candidates. I'm not sure I'm that overly impressed with Burg's stuff and his stats may be misleading considering the teams in the UMAC.
You might be in the minority there. At least I hope you are. Or are you trying to stir something up?

Burg is 7-0 (top 30 nationally in wins) and has beaten St. Thomas, Alvernia and Oshkosh, all regionally ranked teams. Nothing misleading about that, is there?

Rubens is the current national pitcher of the week, is 8-1 (top 20 nationally in wins), has completed and won all three of his starts (over St. Thomas, Whitewater and Stevens Point) and is in the top 30 nationally in saves. All that and more (like a top-70 2.21 ERA) for the top ranked team in the region. I don't think you understand how Oshkosh uses its ace. Rubens is primarily a reliever until the biggest games.

Now, are you still deciding how good those two guys are?

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Re: All Region
« Reply #12 on: April 25, 2008, 10:20:53 am »
I would take Ruebens and Burg on my team and feel pretty damn good pitching either one of them against the best teams in the country.  Burg might not throw hard and dazzle you by lighting up the gun, but the kid hits spots, changes it up, and just plain gets people out.  Ruebens numbers speak for themself and if you have seen the kid pitch, you would know he is more than deserving of an all region spot.


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Re: All Region
« Reply #13 on: April 25, 2008, 10:45:07 am »
Haven't seen Burg pitch, but no doubt Reubens belongs on the list. I am a believer after seeing him pitch against Point the last 2 weeks.

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Re: All Region
« Reply #14 on: April 25, 2008, 11:11:29 am »
Yea you would be pretty crazy to leave Burg and Rubens off the list. They have shown that they can get it done against the best teams. Rubens has even relieved the 1st game of a DH and started the 2nd game and gone the distance and won.  His 3 starting wins are pretty solid

Burg might have some wins against the UMAC but still doesnt matter because like Oshdude said he has beat 3 regional teams in Oshkosh, Alvernia, and Thomas.

Obviously stats will change week by week so list can always change. I would not put Dan Leslie personally due to a low slugging % and OB% two stats that I sometmes believe are more important than avg. Plus obiously he loves to swing away since he only has 2 walks