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Re: BB: Regional Rankings
« Reply #105 on: April 30, 2009, 05:04:59 pm »
If Chapman gets into the mix, they should be put out to another region and Hendrix, the auto-bid from SCAC be placed into the West Region where their conference is. 

I am still not convinced that Chapman is a Pool B #6 bid after seeing them play all season..........

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Re: BB: Regional Rankings
« Reply #106 on: April 30, 2009, 05:43:43 pm »
Chapman must sweep University of Dallas this weekend to have any chance to keep the pool B bid. Anything less and their out.

Hendrix may get sent to a region closer to there location to save NCAA travel costs
which as many know is always a factor these days. Hendrix not too close to Linfield, Oregon...

What happens to Texas-Tyler IF the dont win the ASC tourney....?

Are they a POOL C bid team ?

Last time they stayed home....

How many days until May 10..........Nervous time for many teams on the bubble right now

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Re: BB: Regional Rankings
« Reply #107 on: April 30, 2009, 09:30:53 pm »
Chapman must sweep University of Dallas this weekend to have any chance to keep the pool B bid. Anything less and their out.


I doubt it. Chapman is one of only four Pool B teams in the rankings and six Pool B bids will be awarded. The can drop one, even two games this weekend and still get in. They only have to be one of the top six Pool B teams which is very weak this year.
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« Last Edit: May 07, 2009, 03:04:35 pm by Ralph Turner »
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Re: BB: Regional Rankings
« Reply #109 on: May 07, 2009, 03:08:18 pm »
Regional Rankings for Week #3

Central Region Overall Record In-Region Record
1. Carthage 29-5 25-2
2. St. Norbert 21-11 19-10
3. Illinois Wesleyan 23-13 21-12
4. Coe 21-17 20-12
5. Loras 25-12 2011
6. Luther 27-11 25-11

Mid-Atlantic Region Overall Record In-Region Record
1. Kean 33-9 29-6
2. Montclair State 25-15 22-8
3. Keystone 34-4 28-1
4. Penn State-Behrend 27-7 25-6
5. The College of New Jersey 23-16-1 21-13-1
6. Manhattanville 25-16 24-15
7. Wilkes 28-11 26-8
8. Frostburg State 24-13 23-8
9. William Patterson 24-16 21-14

Mideast Region Overall Record In-Region Record
1. Wooster 33-8 27-7
2. Heidelberg 33-7 29-6
3. Otterbein 22-15 18-8
4. Marietta 26-12 22-11
5. Washington and Jefferson 28-11 23-8
6. Adrian 27-9 24-4
7. Franklin 28-9 22-8

Midwest Region Overall Record In-Region Record
1. St. Thomas (Minnesota) 28-9 21-8
2. St. Scholastica 31-4 22-3
3. St. Olaf 25-11 20-8
4. Wisconsin-Stevens Point 27-13 25-12
5. Concordia Chicago 29-13 27-7
6. Wisconsin-Oshkosh 23-15 22-14

New England Region Overall Record In-Region Record
1. Southern Maine 34-5 29-4
2. Eastern Connecticut State 31-6 28-6
3. Trinity (Connecticut) 26-5 26-3
4. Curry 34-7 30-6
5. Suffolk 30-8 27-7
6. WPI 26-11 25-8
7. Wheaton (Massachusetts) 30-12 27-10
8. Williams 24-10 20-7
9. Western New England 29-15 26-14
10. St. Joseph’s (Maine) 31-13 28-9

New York Region Overall Record In-Region Record
1. Cortland State 29-12 24-8
2. Rensselaer 31-9 29-8
3. Ithaca 28-7 22-4
4. Rochester 30-11 27-11
5. Farmingdale State 25-13 24-10
6. Fredonia State 25-10 16-10

South Region Overall Record In-Region Record
1. Salisbury 36—6 29-6
2. Millsaps 32-8 29-7
3. Shenandoah 33-8 27-7
4. North Carolina Wesleyan 27-19 25-15
5. Christopher Newport 24-11-2 20-11-1

West Region Overall Record In-Region Record
1. Pomona-Pitzer 35-5 27-3
2. Texas-Tyler 38-10 35-9
3. Cal Lutheran 31-9 27-6
4. Pacific Lutheran 31-8 29-8
5. George Fox 32-9 29-6
6. Texas-Dallas 28-18 27-14
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Re: BB: Regional Rankings
« Reply #110 on: May 07, 2009, 03:10:35 pm »
The first thing to catch my eye, is Saint Norbert going from unranked to #2 in the Central Region Rankings. 

Could they really get a Pool C bid if they were to lose the MWC Tournament Championship?
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Re: BB: Regional Rankings
« Reply #111 on: May 07, 2009, 03:55:48 pm »
It looks like Cal Lutheran has clinched a Pool C bid, as well as Curry and probably WPI. Montclair State will also receive a Pool C bid. Wheaton is still on the bubble. And Concordia (Ill) and Rochester put themselves in a better position.

A couple things:

1. First, some of these records are incorrect. Incorrect for May 5th as well, which is when they were to be updated until.

PS Behrend is not 27-7, they are 28-11. That is a big difference guys. Plus, they go 1-4 and stay #4 in the region??

2. Second, how does Rose-Hulman drop out after going 3-0 this week!?! They have won 8 games in a row....makes no sense, especially considering Otterbein jumped them after going 3-3 this week! That is just stupid guys...c'mon.

3. Third, Texas-Dallas is not better than Miss. College. I am sorry....that is ridiculous! Miss. College made it to the ASC final. Second, they beat UTD 3 out of 4 times this year, including last week. Third, their regional record is similar and was far better in the ASC season. They were also 3-3 vs. Texas Tyler, showing they had a tough schedule, while UTD was 1-3 vs. this elite common opponent

4. Fourth, Montclair state goes 2-2 and jumps Keystone who didn't play?? C'mon. Can you make it any more obvious you are finagling their Pool C bid?

5. Fifth, how does Beloit go 3-0 and get jumped by St. Norbort who is 19-10 in region when Beloit is 19-5?

6. Sixth, how does Luther go 4-0 and get jumped by 3 teams?


These rankings are inconceivably random. There must be a better system than this.
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Re: BB: Regional Rankings
« Reply #112 on: May 07, 2009, 05:53:38 pm »
It looks like each region is trying to set up their Pool C bids which is way too obvious. I thought with this new system things weren't going to be random and make no sense at all. Well, it looks like we're back to the drawing board.

How does 19-10 in any region give you a good enough in region record to be #2?

How does a team go .500 in a week and jump a team that didn't play and is 34-4 and 28-1 in region?

How can teams with just over a .500 record even be ranked this late in the season, are they playing MLB teams?

Please, Please give the credit to the teams that deserve it and make decisions based on what teams have done this year and not what you think they might do? If a region doesn't have enough good teams to be ranked, bring teams in from another region (Central)

If NY is an eight team regional then Cortland, RPI, Ithaca, Farmingdale and Rochester should represent NY
Their should be at least 5 NY teams in the NY Regional, especially after looking at some of these other regions rankings.

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Re: BB: Regional Rankings
« Reply #113 on: May 07, 2009, 10:37:54 pm »
It looks like Cal Lutheran has clinched a Pool C bid, as well as Curry and probably WPI. Montclair State will also receive a Pool C bid. Wheaton is still on the bubble. And Concordia (Ill) and Rochester put themselves in a better position.

A couple things:

1. First, some of these records are incorrect. Incorrect for May 5th as well, which is when they were to be updated until.

PS Behrend is not 27-7, they are 28-11. That is a big difference guys. Plus, they go 1-4 and stay #4 in the region??

2. Second, how does Rose-Hulman drop out after going 3-0 this week!?! They have won 8 games in a row....makes no sense, especially considering Otterbein jumped them after going 3-3 this week! That is just stupid guys...c'mon.

3. Third, Texas-Dallas is not better than Miss. College. I am sorry....that is ridiculous! Miss. College made it to the ASC final. Second, they beat UTD 3 out of 4 times this year, including last week. Third, their regional record is similar and was far better in the ASC season. They were also 3-3 vs. Texas Tyler, showing they had a tough schedule, while UTD was 1-3 vs. this elite common opponent

4. Fourth, Montclair state goes 2-2 and jumps Keystone who didn't play?? C'mon. Can you make it any more obvious you are finagling their Pool C bid?

5. Fifth, how does Beloit go 3-0 and get jumped by St. Norbort who is 19-10 in region when Beloit is 19-5?

6. Sixth, how does Luther go 4-0 and get jumped by 3 teams?


These rankings are inconceivably random. There must be a better system than this.
5. BC's OWP is .440. SNC's is .548. Then look at who both teams beat.
6. Luther's OWP is .493. Coe's is .545. Loras has a much better OWP than LC.

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Re: BB: Regional Rankings
« Reply #114 on: May 07, 2009, 11:11:16 pm »
 I dont care what their OWP is. You cant drop in the rankings to teams losing when you go undefeated. I am sure they dropped bc their OWP dropped this week because of the teams they played. If you go undefeated it shouldnt affect it that much. The OWP's are factoring way to high into rankings when you can go 3-0 and drop.

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Re: BB: Regional Rankings
« Reply #115 on: May 08, 2009, 12:33:48 am »
im going to be a homer here and wonder where Elizabethtown is in the Mid-Atlantic rankings?!? 27-13 overall and 24-11 (i believe) in region...they just won there third conference tournament in 4 years so they know what the regionals are all about...

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Re: BB: Regional Rankings
« Reply #116 on: May 08, 2009, 12:48:33 am »
im going to be a homer here and wonder where Elizabethtown is in the Mid-Atlantic rankings?!? 27-13 overall and 24-11 (i believe) in region...they just won there third conference tournament in 4 years so they know what the regionals are all about...
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E'town in the Mid-Atlantic Regional Rankings?

Probably about 10th or so...   :)

E'town is 23-13 in-region (.639)  (Mass Maritime, Kenyon twice and PSU-Harrisburg don't count as in-region games.)

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Re: BB: Regional Rankings
« Reply #117 on: May 08, 2009, 07:49:18 am »
Anyone see Luther beat Coe in the IIAC tournament???

Get Coe out of there. Get Luther back near the top where they belong at 28-11

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Re: BB: Regional Rankings
« Reply #118 on: May 08, 2009, 08:58:10 am »

5. BC's OWP is .440. SNC's is .548. Then look at who both teams beat.
6. Luther's OWP is .493. Coe's is .545. Loras has a much better OWP than LC.
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Here is why I dont buy this stuff.....its not consistently used.

Hopkins is 20-13 in region....certainly no worse than the records you are quoting to me out of the midwest/central.

And their OWP is .540, right up there with the best in the country.Have i heard a word about them possibly receiving a pool c bid if they would have lost the conference tournament?? No. I didn't. If you are going to throw some of these ridiculous teams in the mix from the midwest on the basis of their high OWP, its time you start employing that criteria to the other regions. If IWU, Coe, and St Norbert is being discussed for a Pool C bid based on their OWP, so should Hopkins have been

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Re: BB: Regional Rankings
« Reply #119 on: May 08, 2009, 09:05:19 am »

5. BC's OWP is .440. SNC's is .548. Then look at who both teams beat.
6. Luther's OWP is .493. Coe's is .545. Loras has a much better OWP than LC.

Here is why I dont buy this stuff.....its not consistently used.

Hopkins is 20-13 in region....certainly no worse than the records you are quoting to me out of the midwest/central.

And their OWP is .540, right up there with the best in the country.Have i heard a word about them possibly receiving a pool c bid if they would have lost the conference tournament?? No. I didn't. If you are going to throw some of these ridiculous teams in the mix from the midwest on the basis of their high OWP, its time you start employing that criteria to the other regions. If IWU, Coe, and St Norbert is being discussed for a Pool C bid based on their OWP, so should Hopkins have been
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Who's discussing them for a Pool C bid?