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Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
« Reply #9150 on: March 12, 2019, 06:13:58 am »

It's interesting how the voting works sometimes.  I believe Rupkus is also a two-time conference POY; and team performance doesn't really factor in too much.  If it were me, I'd pick Kevin Dennis over both of them.  I imagine UAA POY Ryan Clamage had something to say about the results as well.  Certainly not a two horse race.
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Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
« Reply #9151 on: March 12, 2019, 09:02:02 am »
I do not mind using seniority and career accomplishments as a tiebreaker, but previous season stats and awards are not my favorite way to determine this years awards. So, yes I agree Dennis and Clamage are very worthy of Region POTY, more so than Ed Rupkus based on the play this year. Also, team accomplishments for sure should play a role  in voting, and it to the outside viewer, it appears that it plays some sort of role. It is another  good tiebreaker when two players have pretty equal season stats. I know its not a perfect science, but this one was quite the surprise in my eyes.

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Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
« Reply #9152 on: March 12, 2019, 07:32:57 pm »

It's interesting how the voting works sometimes.  I believe Rupkus is also a two-time conference POY; and team performance doesn't really factor in too much.  If it were me, I'd pick Kevin Dennis over both of them.  I imagine UAA POY Ryan Clamage had something to say about the results as well.  Certainly not a two horse race.

Pretty sure Kevin Dennis wouldn't put up the numbers he did if he played in the SUNYAC. Morrisville is 3-10 against the SUNYAC since they left to join the NEAC. And yes one of those 3 wins was against Brockport in the NCAA tournament but Brockport's All American, Jon Ivy, never played in that game, as he was injured during the latter part of the regular season. The reason they left the YAC, along with SUNYIT, was to be a big fish in a small pond and make the playoffs. They were 2-30 in the 2 years they were in the conference.

And you're right Ryan it wasn't a two horse race. Jon Patron was so far out in front of the others he looked like Secretariat at the Belmont Stakes leaving Sham and the also rans 31 lengths behind. :D

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Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
« Reply #9153 on: March 13, 2019, 09:36:36 am »

It's interesting how the voting works sometimes.  I believe Rupkus is also a two-time conference POY; and team performance doesn't really factor in too much.  If it were me, I'd pick Kevin Dennis over both of them.  I imagine UAA POY Ryan Clamage had something to say about the results as well.  Certainly not a two horse race.

Pretty sure Kevin Dennis wouldn't put up the numbers he did if he played in the SUNYAC. Morrisville is 3-10 against the SUNYAC since they left to join the NEAC. And yes one of those 3 wins was against Brockport in the NCAA tournament but Brockport's All American, Jon Ivy, never played in that game, as he was injured during the latter part of the regular season. The reason they left the YAC, along with SUNYIT, was to be a big fish in a small pond and make the playoffs. They were 2-30 in the 2 years they were in the conference.

And you're right Ryan it wasn't a two horse race. Jon Patron was so far out in front of the others he looked like Secretariat at the Belmont Stakes leaving Sham and the also rans 31 lengths behind. :D

It's true, you have to adjust the stats for the schedule, but he did put up 16 and 12 against R-MC in the tournament, while getting doubled a lot of time.  He's a talented kid, as is Patron... and Rupkus... and Clamage.  Patron's going to benefit when it comes to AA because he's a forward (and there's just less competition there), so that may provide some vindication.
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Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
« Reply #9154 on: March 13, 2019, 01:53:19 pm »

Glad to see the coach's backed up our panel as well.  Also glad you're going to war for your guy; that's the right thing to do.


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Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
« Reply #9155 on: March 13, 2019, 02:54:10 pm »
As Ryan said, Patron a very worthy candidate and will almost certainly be an All-America selection.
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