Pool C -- 2009

[Ralph Turner]

We have finished Week #7.  Let's start looking at the Pool C candidates.  It looks like all 2-loss teams are out of it.

South Region

UMHB, loser to Mississippi College.  (UMHB only could line up the ASC conference games.)
Thomas More/W&J loser.  (Thomas More also plays HCAC co-leader Mount St Joseph.)
Hampden-Sydney (If they lose to Randolph-Macon on Nov 14th.  RMC already has 2 in-region losses.)
Dickinson (loser to Johns Hopkins in the Centennial)
Centre (if they lose to Millsaps or Trinity.  Centre is at Millsaps and Trinity is at Depauw on 10/24.)
No candidates from the USA South.

North Region

Wheaton at North Central on 10/24 in the CCIW.  (IWU has a loss to Millikin and faces NCentral and Wheaton later in the season.)
Franklin/Mount St Joseph loser (HCAC) on 10/24.  ( MSJ faces Thomas More in their Bridge Bowl on 11/14.)
Capital at Otterbein (OAC) on 10/24. (Otterbein must play MUC on 11/7.)
Wabash (NCAC) plays at Wooster on 10/24 and at DePauw on 11/14.


West Region

St Thomas at Bethel (MIAC) on 11/7.
Coe's (IIAC)  game at Buena Vista on 11/7 is the only foe with a winning record.
UWW at UWSP (WIAC) on 10/31.
UW-LaCrosse hosts UWSP on 10/24 and UWW on 11/14.
Redlands (SCIAC)
Linfield at Willamette (NWC) on 10/24. (Willamette has an ugly loss to Concordia-Moorhead on 9/5.)
St Norbert vs Ripon (MWC) on 10/24.
No candidates in the UMAC.

East Region

Delaware Valley at Albright (MAC) on Nov 7th.
Lebanaon Valley at Albright (MAC) on Nov 14th.
Alfred at SJF (E8) on 10/24.
Kean, Rowan and Montclair State (NJAC) already have 1 in-region loss and still must play each other.
Union at Susquehanna (LL) on 11/14.

That is a preliminary list.  I invite other fans to outline the teams that have a chance at Pool C.

[Mr. Ypsi]

We have finished Week #7.  Let's start looking at the Pool C candidates.  It looks like all 2-loss teams are out of it.

South Region

UMHB, loser to Mississippi College.  (UMHB only could line up the ASC conference games.)
Thomas More/W&J loser.  (Thomas More also plays HCAC co-leader Mount St Joseph.)
Hampden-Sydney (If they lose to Randolph-Macon on Nov 14th.  RMC already has 2 in-region losses.)
Dickinson (loser to Johns Hopkins in the Centennial)
Centre (if they lose to Millsaps or Trinity.  Centre is at Millsaps and Trinity is at Depauw on 10/24.)
No candidates from the USA South.

North Region

Wheaton at North Central on 10/24 in the CCIW.  (IWU has a loss to Millikin and faces NCentral and Wheaton later in the season.)
Franklin/Mount St Joseph loser on 10/24.  ( MSJ faces Thomas More in their Bridge Bowl on 11/14.)
Capital at Otterbein on 10/24. (Otterbein must play MUC on 11/7.)

Just last year Wheaton WON the 'North' region with two losses, but, yeah, any team with two losses is certainly in danger of staying home.

[BleacherBum]

University of St. Thomas out of the West- 1 loss team. Loss comes at the hands of the #6 (at the time) Johnnies in OT. With a win over an up-and-down Bethel team, UST should finish 2nd in the MIAC with 1 loss and is a strong contender out of a stacked west region.

[PA_wesleyfan]

Ralph  and Ypsi

 If  Austin puts one great game together they could be a player the last two weeks with games with  Depauw and Trinity.

[Ralph Turner]

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Just last year Wheaton WON the 'North' region with two losses, but, yeah, any team with two losses is certainly in danger of staying home.

Yeah, only a few conferences, like the CCIW or maybe the E8, seem to be able to pull that off.   

[Ralph Turner]

Coe looks like they are in pretty good shape.

[Mr. Ypsi]

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Just last year Wheaton WON the 'North' region with two losses, but, yeah, any team with two losses is certainly in danger of staying home.

Yeah, only a few conferences, like the CCIW or maybe the E8, seem to be able to pull that off.   

Or an OAC team when one of the losses is MUC.

[b1gpapi]

What would be the scenario for Randolph-Macon if they win the ODAC?  The ODAc is an AQ conference.

[usee]

in the CCIW if North Central loses this week they are likely done w 2 losses. If Wheaton loses they are a strong C candidate If they win out. IWU lost to millikin, who is 1-2 in conference, so they control their own destiny. If they win out they are the AQ (having wins over wheaton and NCC). If they lose again.....see North Central. IWU is a darkhorse here as they appear to have the best defense of the contenders (see results from common opponents) and if they get their QB back and can operate on offense again they have a good shot.

[Ralph Turner]

What would be the scenario for Randolph-Macon if they win the ODAC?  The ODAc is an AQ conference.

RMC earns the AQ and is probably sent somewhere for a first round game.

[pumkinattack]

If there were hypothetically no pool C's in the East this year, what do people see as the likely outcome for bracketing?  I thought MUC has gotten moved to the east because it's close to Western NY where you're likely to get one to three teams in the playoffs reducing the flight burden and yet they imported Randolph Macon creating a flight right out of the break.  Does no pool C's in the East make it more likely that two South teams get imported (e.g. Wesley and either the PAC or CC rep)? 

[altor]

Does no pool C's in the East make it more likely that two South teams get imported (e.g. Wesley and either the PAC or CC rep)?

Depends on who the PAC rep is.  If Thomas More wins the PAC, and I were on the committee, I'd send an eastern Ohio school to the "East" and put Thomas More in the "North."

[K-Mack]

What would be the scenario for Randolph-Macon if they win the ODAC?  The ODAc is an AQ conference.

RMC earns the AQ and is probably sent somewhere for a first round game.

I see a couple varying scenarios if the Jackets play their way in.

R-MC could be a 7 seed in front of the USAC champ; not sure how they stack up against NCWC currently, but they'll have a common opponent, and R-MC would need to beat H-SC to get in, and H-SC thumped NCWC 55-23 in week 1.

The South 8 seed could go to Wesley (or W&J if Wesley is the East's No. 1 and the Prezzies beat TMore).

Also, if by some stretch of the imagination there's an odd number of Texas teams, involving some combination of Trinity, Huntingdon, Miss Coll and UMHB, someone from Virginia or N.C. or Ky. might have to travel.

Centre and Thomas More could meet in the first round of the "south" bracket. But I checked, Centre is more than 600 miles from Miss Coll

If H-SC goes unbeaten, they should get a home game.

[K-Mack]

I thought MUC has gotten moved to the east because it's close to Western NY where you're likely to get one to three teams in the playoffs reducing the flight burden and yet they imported Randolph Macon creating a flight right out of the break. 

What am I missing here? Randolph-Macon is not 500 miles from Mount Union and they did not fly there for last season's first-round game. Hobart and Cortland are actually closer to Alliance than R-MC is (shoot over to Buffalo and ride along Lake Erie and you're there), so they didn't fly.

[HSC85]

How hard was it for you to say if HSC goes undefeated?     

They still have much work to do.  Last season they couldn't do it and Randolph Macon was one of the reasons. 

Thank you for all you do to promote D III football.

BTW - Ashland, VA to Alliance, OH is only 399 miles according to mapquest.