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Re: WBB: College Conference of Illinois and Wisconsin
« Reply #5370 on: January 09, 2017, 10:30:59 am »
As GoPerry reported, Carroll won. I doubt if they want my sympathy, but we know it's unpleasant to continuously lose, so I'll say, good for them to finally register a W.

My sentiments exactly ... especially since it didn't come at the expense of NPU. ;)
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Re: WBB: College Conference of Illinois and Wisconsin
« Reply #5371 on: January 09, 2017, 11:14:43 am »
As GoPerry reported, Carroll won. I doubt if they want my sympathy, but we know it's unpleasant to continuously lose, so I'll say, good for them to finally register a W.

My sentiments exactly ... especially since it didn't come at the expense of NPU. ;)

Same re: NCC. :P

It's always nice to get that monkey off your back though. I don't want to see anyone go 0-25, and if that win gives them a little confidence going forward, possibly leading to a couple more wins, more power to them (again, as long as it doesn't come in Naperville. :P )

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Re: WBB: College Conference of Illinois and Wisconsin
« Reply #5372 on: January 09, 2017, 03:07:47 pm »
Millikin's rescheduled game at Washington U tips off in about 1/2 hour. Millikin is hard to judge so far. They did lose by only 4 at DePauw, so who knows what'll occur today in St Louis. No video. Use your imagination. Heh.

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Re: WBB: College Conference of Illinois and Wisconsin
« Reply #5373 on: January 09, 2017, 03:24:11 pm »
Congrats to Maddie Merritt, our new CCIW Player of the Week!

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Re: WBB: College Conference of Illinois and Wisconsin
« Reply #5374 on: January 09, 2017, 06:41:54 pm »
Wash U 77, Millikin 58. The Big Blue made 10 of 32 2FG att.

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Re: WBB: College Conference of Illinois and Wisconsin
« Reply #5375 on: January 09, 2017, 08:06:30 pm »
New poll is up, and no CCIW team in the top 25.  Wheaton fell to just outside (#26, with 23 points); Augie received a single vote.  Since IWU knocked Wheaton out, I thought they might receive a stray vote or two, but 5 losses is apparently just too many, no matter how many of the teams they lost to are ranked.

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Re: WBB: College Conference of Illinois and Wisconsin
« Reply #5376 on: January 09, 2017, 09:16:36 pm »
If IWU continues to win 3/4 of their conference games, I think they'll get a lot of respect at the end of the regular season. Their 5 nonconference wins are looking pretty good at the moment (with half of the picture painted) : taking out the losses to IWU, the 5 nonconf teams that IWU beat have records as follows. Illinois College 8-2, Luther 8-4, Rose-Hulman 10-2, Chicago 8-3, Wilmington 8-4. We'll have to see how these opponents finish out their regular seasons and how IWU finishes its.
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Re: WBB: College Conference of Illinois and Wisconsin
« Reply #5377 on: January 09, 2017, 10:37:53 pm »
Congrats to Maddie Merritt.  Very deserving this week.  She's making the over all Titan team and offensive scheme much better. 

Let hope Ehresman gets back before too too long.

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Re: WBB: College Conference of Illinois and Wisconsin
« Reply #5378 on: January 10, 2017, 07:26:42 am »
If IWU continues to win 3/4 of their conference games, I think they'll get a lot of respect at the end of the regular season. Their 5 nonconference wins are looking pretty good at the moment (with half of the picture painted) : taking out the losses to IWU, the 5 nonconf teams that IWU beat have records as follows. Illinois College 8-2, Luther 8-4, Rose-Hulman 10-2, Chicago 8-3, Wilmington 8-4. We'll have to see how these opponents finish out their regular seasons and how IWU finishes its.

Rog: 

IWU already has a lot of respect across the league notwithstanding their record, present or future, but I suspect you’re not really referring to that.  If the inference is to post-season play, I believe it’s highly doubtful 12-4 will get them a Pool C bid because even a strong SOS won’t overcome the math.  They would need to win the AQ in my opinion, which is obviously a possibility.   If they go 13-3 (10-2 the rest of the way) and 1-1 in the tourney, then they have a chance to be in the conversation.  All the teams have a lot of work to do between now and then, but that 2/21 final game @ Wheaton could be big.

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Re: WBB: College Conference of Illinois and Wisconsin
« Reply #5379 on: January 10, 2017, 10:37:14 am »
Yeah, I was thinking in terms of the national tournament.
My thinking was negligent though because I didn't consider the CCIW tournament and that IWU could hypothetically add another loss that way. Your math sounds right.
IWU has as good a chance as anyone to make the CCIW tournament, but they may not. It's still very early in conf play, now that we have 16 games instead of 14.

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Re: WBB: College Conference of Illinois and Wisconsin
« Reply #5380 on: January 10, 2017, 04:25:02 pm »
So I was just perusing North Park's season stats and noticed that Liz Rehberger and Amani Davis have reached double figures in blocks and steals. I figured I'd find a couple of players on each team that had also achieved this combo by now.
Surprisingly (to me anyway), only seven players have reached double figures in blocks and steals : Davis, Rehberger, Devin Kyler, Anita Sterling, Lauren Moses, Kaycee Kallenberger and Carly McCameron. Another 8 or 10 players might get there in the next week or two. Beyond that clump, hardly anyone is close.
Conclusions? I dunno.

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Re: WBB: College Conference of Illinois and Wisconsin
« Reply #5381 on: January 11, 2017, 01:40:25 am »
I share GoPerry's views about IWU's record and D3 dance prospects.  When you play such a tough schedule and lose 4-5 games pre-CCIW, that means it's very hard to get near 20 wins.  Your resume come selection Sunday just isn't that strong.  That's why I continue to feel that IWU has to win the AQ, which WC and others will, of course, want to win as well.  IWU could go the rest of the way with 1-3 losses in conference play, but that would still put them only to about 17-8 for the season, then 18-9 if they don't win the AQ.  Even with a very very strong SOS, I don't think that gets you in. Their schedule is what it is, and surely contributes to how good, how tough they will be these next 6 weeks, but it is a stretch to get to the D3 dance without the AQ.  And now, of course, the Ehresman injury and other issues with key players, surely won't help.  Pgraph has Ehresman out 1-2 games, though that sounds optimistic to me.  Ankle sprains are tricky, sometimes worse than a break.  We'll see.  IWU will be short-handed and will have to find ways to win relying on seniors, some key bench players getting more minutes, and surely relying more heavily on Merritt and McGraw for the points.  Ehresman was the top rebounder, a good scorer, great with ball control and security, and surely the stick that stirs the IWU drink in so many ways.  We'll see how they can play without her vs. NPU.  I'm sure Mia will have a good plan, but her loss is very major. 

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Re: WBB: College Conference of Illinois and Wisconsin
« Reply #5382 on: January 11, 2017, 09:42:55 am »
Nice article in the Naperville Sun about Jamie Cuny, as well as Mayson Whipple, who is officially out for the year. ACL tears are a [female dog].

http://www.chicagotribune.com/suburbs/naperville-sun/ct-nvs-basketball-north-central-notes-st-0111-20170110-story.html

Big one in Naperville tonight as Augie comes to visit. Not out of the realm of possibility for that combined score record set in a 2014 Illinois Wesleyan-North Central tilt get toppled tonight given these offenses.

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Re: WBB: College Conference of Illinois and Wisconsin
« Reply #5383 on: January 11, 2017, 02:57:04 pm »
No word on the condition of Liz Rehberger's knee. This is a cause of huge concern, obviously. Although the Vikings managed to keep the game close with her either sitting on the bench or at less than 100% on Saturday at NCC, I just don't see how North Park can compete without her tonight in Bloomington -- or on Saturday against Elmhurst or at any other future games, for that matter.
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Re: WBB: College Conference of Illinois and Wisconsin
« Reply #5384 on: January 11, 2017, 03:50:28 pm »
This evening, I'll attend the Millikin at Elmhurst contest. This will be Millikin's third game in five days. Their bus (I assume) trips were to/from Waukesha on Saturday, St Louis on Monday and today's travels.
As we are now getting deep into conference play (not early anymore!), the Big Blue really needs a win to rejoin the midsection of the league.
At 2-2, a win by Elmhurst would solidify the 'jays' position of contending for the post season.
Carthage has the bye today. Their nonconf game vs Olivet (Mich.) has been replaced by one vs IIT on Feb 4.