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Re: WBB: College Conference of Illinois and Wisconsin
« Reply #7800 on: December 01, 2019, 07:04:59 pm »
#11 DePauw just edges #21 IWU 69-67 in a very tight game throughout the final 20.
 
This would’ve been a really nice win against a likely RR opponent if the Titans could’ve pulled it off.  Huge game by DePauw's All Am Sydney Kopp with 35 and 7 and the game winning layup with 2 secs left.  The Tigers really had difficulty with the press which is particularly effective if a team is not used to seeing it and not sufficiently prepared/practiced to break it.
 
Titan's Riley Brovelli (16 pts, 10 rebs) is really playing well and benefits a lot by the Titans frequent high screen/roll execution which they run very well.  Shanks, Lansford, Munroe ( 13, 13, 9)all capable of getting hot and scoring.  Kendall Sosa ( 7 pts) was not offensively active, probably somewhat encumbered by the ankle injury.  A very strange technical foul on IWU up by 2 with less than a minute left was costly.  Jay Murray said it was on Mia Smith but I couldn’t tell.

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Re: WBB: College Conference of Illinois and Wisconsin
« Reply #7801 on: December 01, 2019, 07:28:09 pm »
Illinois College defeated Millikin 78-73. The Lady Blues defeated the Big Blue.
For Millikin : Aubrey Staton 19 pts, 5 rebs, 3 stls; Abby Ratsch 14 pts, 7 rebs, 4 assists, 3 stls; Briana Anthony 13 pts, 6 rebs.
I watched segments of the webcast and thought Millikin looked two-thirds half asleep in the 1st quarter. That's 1/3 asleep.
If I saw things correctly, Aubrey Magro endured a leg injury, so best wishes to her for a quick recovery.

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Re: WBB: College Conference of Illinois and Wisconsin
« Reply #7802 on: December 01, 2019, 07:46:03 pm »
I watched segments of the webcast and thought Millikin looked two-thirds half asleep in the 1st quarter. That's 1/3 asleep.

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Re: WBB: College Conference of Illinois and Wisconsin
« Reply #7803 on: December 01, 2019, 07:52:21 pm »
Tough loss for the TITANS, against highly-ranked DePauw.   Agreed on Brovelli, much improved from previous seasons.  Titans getting some good bench support now from Bowen and Eck.  Too much Sydney Kopp for sure. -- 9 treys.  Well, IWU always plays a very tough schedule, making them rough and ready for the long CCIW run . . . so here we go.  5-2 at this stage is not bad.  Sure wish it was 6-1. 

Wish Kendall Sosa more recovery, full recovery in the next few days.

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Re: WBB: College Conference of Illinois and Wisconsin
« Reply #7804 on: December 01, 2019, 09:03:15 pm »
Rog

The coach can’t get a technical at end of game and inexcusable she didn’t use the final timeout with 3 seconds left after the made basket

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Re: WBB: College Conference of Illinois and Wisconsin
« Reply #7805 on: December 02, 2019, 12:36:00 am »
that's GoPerry's topic, not mine  :)

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Re: WBB: College Conference of Illinois and Wisconsin
« Reply #7806 on: December 02, 2019, 01:33:09 am »
I watched segments of the webcast and thought Millikin looked two-thirds half asleep in the 1st quarter. That's 1/3 asleep.



 I like it.    :)

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Re: WBB: College Conference of Illinois and Wisconsin
« Reply #7807 on: December 02, 2019, 01:33:23 am »
I watched segments of the webcast and thought Millikin looked two-thirds half asleep in the 1st quarter. That's 1/3 asleep.



 I like it.    :)

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Re: WBB: College Conference of Illinois and Wisconsin
« Reply #7808 on: December 02, 2019, 09:02:48 pm »
Congrats to Hannah Frazier for her 2nd CCIW Player of the Week honor!

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Re: WBB: College Conference of Illinois and Wisconsin
« Reply #7809 on: December 02, 2019, 10:32:39 pm »
A very strange technical foul on IWU up by 2 with less than a minute left was costly.  Jay Murray said it was on Mia Smith but I couldn’t tell.

The T on Mia Smith...

https://twitter.com/IWUhoopscom/status/1201342617067364352?s=20

The officials made a bad mistake by not looking at the bench for a timeout call -- Mia called timeout almost immediately after the ball went through the basket.  She should have been given the timeout but no one was looking.

Mia made a bad mistake by getting out on the floor to complain about it.
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Re: WBB: College Conference of Illinois and Wisconsin
« Reply #7810 on: December 02, 2019, 11:37:37 pm »
Is there anyone at the scorers' table who has the authority to recognize a time-out?  If so, that would have been her out - ignore the refs (who were ignoring her >:() and get the TO from the table.

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Re: WBB: College Conference of Illinois and Wisconsin
« Reply #7811 on: December 02, 2019, 11:40:47 pm »
Women's poll has finally come out.  Wheaton and IWU are both still in it, but dropped a bit - Wheaton fell from 16 to 21, IWU from 21 to 23.

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Re: WBB: College Conference of Illinois and Wisconsin
« Reply #7812 on: December 02, 2019, 11:50:52 pm »
A very strange technical foul on IWU up by 2 with less than a minute left was costly.  Jay Murray said it was on Mia Smith but I couldn’t tell.

The T on Mia Smith...

https://twitter.com/IWUhoopscom/status/1201342617067364352?s=20

The officials made a bad mistake by not looking at the bench for a timeout call -- Mia called timeout almost immediately after the ball went through the basket.  She should have been given the timeout but no one was looking.

Sorry, Bob, but I don't buy it. There are three officials calling the game, not one. The official at center court was negligent for not looking back while retreating upcourt after a made basket, but all Mia had to do was turn around and make her timeout call to the trailing official, who had been stationed on the baseline and was now walking directly towards her.

Is there anyone at the scorers' table who has the authority to recognize a time-out?

No.
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Re: WBB: College Conference of Illinois and Wisconsin
« Reply #7813 on: December 03, 2019, 07:40:04 am »
Sorry, Bob, but I don't buy it. There are three officials calling the game, not one. The official at center court was negligent for not looking back while retreating upcourt after a made basket, but all Mia had to do was turn around and make her timeout call to the trailing official, who had been stationed on the baseline and was now walking directly towards her.

I'm not really sure what is not to buy.

Had any of the 3 officials been looking to the bench they would have seen her calling the T.O.  Literally none of the 3 is looking to the bench.  Isn't it a responsibility of one of the officials in a crew to be checking for timeouts during a dead ball situation (immediately after a basket)...especially in the final minute of a tight game?  Are coaches supposed to know exactly which of the 3 officials to seek out and find for a timeout call at every moment of the game?

She called a timeout in plenty of time to have it granted, and it was clearly visible to anyone in the gym who would have been looking at the IWU bench.  But none of the 3 officials was paying any attention to it.  That has to be a mistake on the part of the crew.

I don't think Mia was right to get on the floor, but the officials made a mistake here.

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Re: WBB: College Conference of Illinois and Wisconsin
« Reply #7814 on: December 03, 2019, 08:56:27 am »
What is it with officials ignoring Coach Smith's timeout calls?
Remember the Mount Union game? LoL

I think the officials overreacted in slapping her with a T. In a non-conference game of that magnitude, the officials need to bring their A-Game, particularly that late in a close game, and they dropped the ball by not paying attention to the bench, then made things worse by T'ing up the coach who was rightly upset by their lack of attentiveness. She was out on the floor because she was being ignored at a crucial moment in the game,trying to stop the clock and talk to her team, as is her right to do in that moment. Coach Smith certainly gets animated on the sideline, but a huge percentage of coaches would have reacted exactly the same if not worse. On the other hand, Mr. Sager is quite correct - she seems to have fixated only on the center official, and it looks as though the trailing official was watching the ball, and not the bench.

I'm sure the officials' assigner has sent the video out to everyone under his purview, and this incident will be a topic of discussion among officials for a good long while - as an opportunity to learn from a fast-paced, stressful situation.

Huge dilemma for the officials. Should there have been some nuance in the decision? Should there have been a conference and a stern bench-warning to avoid the crew inserting themselves into the game? This seems reasonable, or does the crew enforce the rules strictly, regardless of why the coach is out on the floor?
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