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Re: WBB: College Conference of Illinois and Wisconsin
« Reply #8760 on: June 16, 2020, 11:32:15 pm »
Raven Hughes coming back is just wishful thinking on my part.  I don't think she's returning.  But, the TITANS could use more rebounding, more toughness down low and in the paint.  Riley Brovelli will be great, returning, but sure could use some help, some further support, esp. against bigger, taller teams like WIAC teams and a few others.  Maybe some of the newbies can help, adding to Anna Lowis and Kaia Bowen in rebounding.  Need to replace Shanks' overall scoring, rebounding, steals and general basketball savvy. . . .  not easy.

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Re: WBB: College Conference of Illinois and Wisconsin
« Reply #8761 on: June 22, 2020, 03:00:40 pm »
An item regarding officiating for CCIW WBB :
https://cciw.org/news/2020/6/22/cciw-to-join-collegiate-officiating-consortium-for-womens-basketball-beginning-in-2020-21.aspx
As indicated in the article, Al Raya has done the work of several people for quite a while and maybe now he can relax while viewing games.
A couple of questions : it says the CCIW MBB refs were under this new supervisory system last season ... was there any discernible difference in the officiating? Were there more new refs than customary in previous seasons? Any answers to questions I haven't thought of?


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Re: WBB: College Conference of Illinois and Wisconsin
« Reply #8762 on: June 22, 2020, 04:59:05 pm »
An item regarding officiating for CCIW WBB :
https://cciw.org/news/2020/6/22/cciw-to-join-collegiate-officiating-consortium-for-womens-basketball-beginning-in-2020-21.aspx
As indicated in the article, Al Raya has done the work of several people for quite a while and maybe now he can relax while viewing games.

That was one of my first thoughts as well. Al Raya can now come to the crackerbox and just enjoy the basketball for a change, rather than scrutinizing the refs and making everybody at the scorer's table nervous. ;)

A couple of questions : it says the CCIW MBB refs were under this new supervisory system last season ... was there any discernible difference in the officiating? Were there more new refs than customary in previous seasons? Any answers to questions I haven't thought of?

1. No.
2. A few, but not enough for most people to notice. That doesn't necessarily mean that we'll see more new refs for women's basketball this year, though, although I'm guessing that we will.
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I don't know all the details as to why it happened this way, but I was surprised that the women's side lagged a year behind the men in making what seems to me to be a logical move.
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Re: WBB: College Conference of Illinois and Wisconsin
« Reply #8763 on: June 22, 2020, 05:45:49 pm »
I think sometimes it is hard to see what changes are going on behind the scenes with officiating. I have had some fascinating conversations with officials I know plus the head of DIII men's basketball officiating and I am sometimes completely unaware of changes going on. Some just don't jump out at anyone because the work is more gradual or fine tuning.
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Re: WBB: College Conference of Illinois and Wisconsin
« Reply #8764 on: June 23, 2020, 09:31:41 am »
An item regarding officiating for CCIW WBB :
https://cciw.org/news/2020/6/22/cciw-to-join-collegiate-officiating-consortium-for-womens-basketball-beginning-in-2020-21.aspx
As indicated in the article, Al Raya has done the work of several people for quite a while and maybe now he can relax while viewing games.

That was one of my first thoughts as well. Al Raya can now come to the crackerbox and just enjoy the basketball for a change, rather than scrutinizing the refs and making everybody at the scorer's table nervous. ;)

Oh, thank God, I thought I was the only one. :P

I don't know if Al ever came at anyone at the crackerbox scorer's table, but he did come after me a time or two. Apparently, making a "one minute remaining in the (period/half/whatever)" announcement wasn't allowed according to him. I just kept doing it anyway. :)

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Re: WBB: College Conference of Illinois and Wisconsin
« Reply #8765 on: June 23, 2020, 06:34:26 pm »
An item regarding officiating for CCIW WBB :
https://cciw.org/news/2020/6/22/cciw-to-join-collegiate-officiating-consortium-for-womens-basketball-beginning-in-2020-21.aspx
As indicated in the article, Al Raya has done the work of several people for quite a while and maybe now he can relax while viewing games.

That was one of my first thoughts as well. Al Raya can now come to the crackerbox and just enjoy the basketball for a change, rather than scrutinizing the refs and making everybody at the scorer's table nervous. ;)

Oh, thank God, I thought I was the only one. :P

I don't know if Al ever came at anyone at the crackerbox scorer's table, but he did come after me a time or two. Apparently, making a "one minute remaining in the (period/half/whatever)" announcement wasn't allowed according to him. I just kept doing it anyway. :)

Al's generally a pretty nice person, but he has his moments. He came down to the crackerbox's scorer's table once and gave our staff some stick about the fact that he couldn't see the west scoreboard from where he was sitting because one of NPU's national championship banners blocked his view. Our staff politely heard him out, but our former SID Kevin Shepke assured Al that moving a banner to accommodate him was above the SID's, and everybody else's, pay grade. (Nobody said this in front of Al, but we all wondered why he didn't just look at the vastly larger and more informative east scoreboard like everybody else.)

No harm done ... and it made for one of those fun stories that game-staff personnel like to collect.
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Re: WBB: College Conference of Illinois and Wisconsin
« Reply #8767 on: June 28, 2020, 02:34:19 am »
Yes, 21 at the Big Blue, and mostly freshmen and sophomores.  Lots of new talent for Coach Lett to draw on . . .

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Re: WBB: College Conference of Illinois and Wisconsin
« Reply #8768 on: July 02, 2020, 01:46:15 pm »
I can now reveal that the CCIW is getting a heavily-recruited player who, while not seen as having a "high ceiling," is certainly regarded as having a "high floor." She is Lynn Oleum.

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Re: WBB: College Conference of Illinois and Wisconsin
« Reply #8769 on: Yesterday at 04:29:47 pm »
Well Roger no Chicago IWU this year for Rose but they will be playing Elmhurst and North Park in North Park tournament in November so i will have my first visit to North Park

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Re: WBB: College Conference of Illinois and Wisconsin
« Reply #8770 on: Yesterday at 07:34:37 pm »
Jester1390, the RHIT schedule now shows "@ Midwest Challenge - Illinois Wesleyan" for 28th-29th of November.
Does that one feature pre-determined 2nd day matchups, or do the day 1 winners play each other on day 2?
Am I remembering correctly that in a four-team "classic tournament" the day 2 matchups are pre-determined? Not sure there's an agreed-upon name for the other type.

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Re: WBB: College Conference of Illinois and Wisconsin
« Reply #8771 on: Yesterday at 09:35:34 pm »
Well Roger no Chicago IWU this year for Rose but they will be playing Elmhurst and North Park in North Park tournament in November so i will have my first visit to North Park

That may not happen. The situation for winter sports is different than the situation that fall sports are currently facing, but there's nothing written in stone yet about winter competition even taking place, let alone competition that takes place across conference lines. The OAC just announced that four of its fall sports will be confined to conference-only play in the regular season, and the possibility exists that other leagues, such as the CCIW and the HCAC, could follow suit. There's also the matter of proximity; a number of D3 institutional administrators have talked about the need to reduce travel and keep student-athletes close to home during this time of restricted campus activity. In all likelihood, NPU is going to have to cancel its football road game at Bethel, as well as the men's soccer trip to Cleveland to play Case Western Reserve and numerous trips by the men's and women's soccer teams and the women's volleyball team to play MIAA schools. That might hold up in terms of winter as well, which would mean no home games or road games where long distances are involved.

NPU, Elmhurst, and the other CCIW schools aren't acting as free agents. I know that they're trying to present a unified approach to scheduling and competition in the face of the pandemic.
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