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Re: Utica College
« Reply #15 on: January 11, 2013, 01:42:18 pm »
I can't be the definitive voice on this but it seems to me in general that the smaller the tournament field is, the more rife it is for that sort of thing.
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Re: Utica College
« Reply #16 on: January 11, 2013, 02:22:27 pm »
Forgive me but im a little more in tune with football,  is the selection for the NCAA's in hockey really as bad as the analogy of the "dark smokey room"?

Probably not as bad as the imagery makes it sound, but one is being dishonest with themselves if they believe that personal interests haven't been pursued and perhaps attained at times in the past.  But alas, such is the nature of pretty much anything at all that involves humans, no?
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Re: Utica College
« Reply #17 on: January 11, 2013, 05:11:09 pm »
Forgive me but im a little more in tune with football,  is the selection for the NCAA's in hockey really as bad as the analogy of the "dark smokey room"?

The thing is, they actually aren't that far off from transparency.  The selection criteria themselves are totally concrete, though I'll take Steve's word on their mathematical wonkiness.  The problem is that their application is totally arbitrary: committee members can try to throw more weight behind whichever numbers make their preferred teams look good.  And then there's the bracketing, which is openly acknowledged to be about saving on flight costs first and foremost, with season performance a distant second.

At best, the tournament will almost never have the fairest possible pairings, and at worst, numbers can be finessed to leave a deserving team out in the cold.  I'm not saying it's happened, but with zero oversight, the possibility is out there.
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Re: Utica College
« Reply #18 on: January 11, 2013, 07:37:14 pm »
The selection criteria themselves are totally concrete, though I'll take Steve's word on their mathematical wonkiness...

For clarification purposes, Steve's comment has to do with the fact that the NCAA uses an average of averages to determine OWP and OOWP, as opposed to simply determining from a composite W-L-T.  Averaging averages is mathematically improper and just flat out the wrong way to do it.  Certainly enough to wind a statistician up a bit :)
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Re: Utica College
« Reply #19 on: January 12, 2013, 10:15:10 am »
That aspect of it drives me freakin' crazy.  With all the resources available to them, the NCAA can certainly do it the right way. 

My computer rankings do it the right way, and on top of that I calculate OOOWP, too (sort of a "Krach-ish" kind of measure, along with the cumulative winning percentage of the teams you have beaten)
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Re: Utica College
« Reply #20 on: January 13, 2013, 03:58:00 pm »
Absolutely crap ass loss for Gary's boys yesterday.
Looks like the boys bought into their own hype.
Just crap.
I would have not wanted to be in that locker room after that game...
Holy cow...Gary must have lost his mind....Ive seen him go nuts before, but he had to almost busted a vein on his forehead over that look past game...WNEC tonight ....Expect a chippy blowout.

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Re: Utica College
« Reply #21 on: January 13, 2013, 10:25:52 pm »
Hmmmmm. Who saw that coming?


I DID

Lets hope Gary keeps his boys that focused against NU and MC!
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Re: Utica College
« Reply #22 on: January 19, 2013, 11:34:07 pm »
Listened to the internet feed by Hobart.  Sounded like a really good Utica following at the game tonight!  Thanks to all who made the trip!

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Re: Utica College
« Reply #23 on: January 20, 2013, 09:32:57 am »
Great win for UC last eve...
Now they have to keep the pedal down and rab that pool C!

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Re: Utica College
« Reply #24 on: February 02, 2013, 10:01:19 pm »
Utica-Hobart rubber match Sunday afternoon.  Tough loss for UC on Friday.  Hope they come out fired up at 3:00 and get that important first goal! 

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Re: Utica College
« Reply #25 on: February 04, 2013, 09:59:42 am »
Nice bounce back win for UC over 'bart yesterday.
These team are really close talent wise...

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Re: Utica College
« Reply #26 on: February 16, 2013, 06:30:40 pm »
Congrats to UC for winning the Regular season ECACW title!!
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Re: Utica College
« Reply #27 on: February 21, 2013, 11:05:05 pm »
Looks like good seats are still available.  A quick check at our friend Ticketmaster  ::) coughed up two seats in 217 row D!   :o  (Which are a fair bit better than my seats!)  I would have guessed that today would have been a good day to pick up tickets as the unused season ticket seats were released. 

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Re: Utica College
« Reply #28 on: November 06, 2013, 12:35:25 pm »
Come on guys!  Our team is ranked # 3 in the nation...Lets hear some chatter!

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Re: Utica College
« Reply #29 on: November 06, 2013, 02:25:51 pm »
And while it would dangerous and foolish to look past Elmira on Friday, if both UC and Hobart win on Friday that Saturday game is a big one for this early in the season.  While I, in theory, would like to go to every game in the nation every weekend, there are times games pop up that I'd really like to go to. This Saturday's UC/Hobart game is one of those.  That Hobart win over Mville impressed me as, on the proverbial paper, Mville looks to be pretty good this year.
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