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Offline Ralph Turner

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Re: Top 25 Discussion
« Reply #225 on: April 19, 2013, 05:13:08 pm »
Here is Spence's Top 25 and how they would make the playoffs, if current "seeding" stood.


Quote from: Spence on April 14, 2013, 06:51:35 pm
1. Linfield
2. St. Thomas
3. UW-Whitewater
4. Cal Lutheran
5. Johns Hopkins
6. UW-Stevens Point                                         POOL C
7. Kean
8. St. Scholastica
9. Webster
10. Southern Maine
11. Manchester
12. Illinois Wesleyan
13. Wartburg
14. Wheaton (Mass.)
15. UT-Tyler
16. Marietta
17. Cortland State
18. Ramapo                                                           POOL C 
19. George Fox                                                      POOL C  
20. Huntingdon              POOL B   
21. Salisbury
22. Millsaps              POOL B       
23. Augustana                                                     POOL C
24. Ithaca                POOL B
25. Case Western Reserve   POOL B/C depending on whether there will be 3 or 4 Pool B bids when the final Handbook comes out
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Re: Top 25 Discussion
« Reply #226 on: April 19, 2013, 08:24:25 pm »
Quote from: Ralph Turner on April 19, 2013, 05:13:08 pm
Here is Spence's Top 25 and how they would make the playoffs, if current "seeding" stood.


Quote from: Spence on April 14, 2013, 06:51:35 pm
1. Linfield
2. St. Thomas
3. UW-Whitewater
4. Cal Lutheran
5. Johns Hopkins
6. UW-Stevens Point                                         POOL C
7. Kean
8. St. Scholastica
9. Webster
10. Southern Maine
11. Manchester
12. Illinois Wesleyan
13. Wartburg
14. Wheaton (Mass.)
15. UT-Tyler
16. Marietta
17. Cortland State
18. Ramapo                                                           POOL C 
19. George Fox                                                      POOL C  
20. Huntingdon              POOL B   
21. Salisbury
22. Millsaps              POOL B       
23. Augustana                                                     POOL C
24. Ithaca                POOL B
25. Case Western Reserve   POOL B/C depending on whether there will be 3 or 4 Pool B bids when the final Handbook comes out

Subject to change, and in fact probably already has. :) Millsaps lost to Rhodes, and Case split a DH with...Oberlin. Yikes. Case has a ton of games coming up though.
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Re: Top 25 Discussion
« Reply #227 on: April 19, 2013, 10:14:07 pm »
Fun time of year!   :)
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Re: Top 25 Discussion
« Reply #228 on: April 20, 2013, 01:28:40 am »
Quote from: Ralph Turner on April 19, 2013, 10:14:07 pm
Fun time of year!   :)

Yeah.

Also, national rankings aren't necessarily going to look like regional rankings because I'm looking at all games.

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Re: Top 25 Discussion
« Reply #229 on: May 10, 2016, 02:33:33 pm »
Johns Hopkins loses 4 of it's last 6, the Conf championship (won by Haverford), finishes 1/2 game over Haverford in Conf by virtue of a tie and goes 0-4 agst Haverford, yet JHU gets 3 Top 25 votes to Haverfords 2. . . . .  Voters please pay attention.
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Re: Top 25 Discussion
« Reply #230 on: May 10, 2016, 02:52:18 pm »
Quote from: Hammer Ball on May 10, 2016, 02:33:33 pm
Johns Hopkins loses 4 of it's last 6, the Conf championship (won by Haverford), finishes 1/2 game over Haverford in Conf by virtue of a tie and goes 0-4 agst Haverford, yet JHU gets 3 Top 25 votes to Haverfords 2. . . . .  Voters please pay attention.

The vote doesn't ONLY take into account conference games... it looks at a lot of factors. All that really matters in the NCAA Regional Rankings, not the Top 25 Poll. Hopkins is 4th while Haverford in 7th in the latest Mid-Atlantic Regional Ranking.
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Re: Top 25 Discussion
« Reply #231 on: May 10, 2016, 02:54:54 pm »
The top 25 means nothing at this point, only winning your conference and the regional rankings.
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Re: Top 25 Discussion
« Reply #232 on: May 12, 2016, 12:13:18 pm »
Quote from: BigPoppa on May 10, 2016, 02:52:18 pm
Quote from: Hammer Ball on May 10, 2016, 02:33:33 pm
Johns Hopkins loses 4 of it's last 6, the Conf championship (won by Haverford), finishes 1/2 game over Haverford in Conf by virtue of a tie and goes 0-4 agst Haverford, yet JHU gets 3 Top 25 votes to Haverfords 2. . . . .  Voters please pay attention.

The vote doesn't ONLY take into account conference games... it looks at a lot of factors. All that really matters in the NCAA Regional Rankings, not the Top 25 Poll. Hopkins is 4th while Haverford in 7th in the latest Mid-Atlantic Regional Ranking.

Sure. Know that. But as between 2 teams i thought head to head and similar opponents would count more.  Plus I think only Haverford has beaten a present Top 25 Team (TCNJ). But i am not certain on that.
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Re: Top 25 Discussion
« Reply #233 on: May 14, 2016, 10:30:25 pm »
Haverford is now ahead of Hopkins in the regional rankings.

There will probably be teams in the top 25 that won't get bids. Occidental is unlikely to, and Buena Vista, St. Thomas and Wartburg will likely all be on the bubble. There may be a couple more depending on how much the committee adjusts the regional rankings.
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Re: Top 25 Discussion
« Reply #234 on: May 15, 2016, 08:58:27 pm »
Quote from: ElRetornodelEspencio on May 14, 2016, 10:30:25 pm
Haverford is now ahead of Hopkins in the regional rankings.

There will probably be teams in the top 25 that won't get bids. Occidental is unlikely to, and Buena Vista, St. Thomas and Wartburg will likely all be on the bubble. There may be a couple more depending on how much the committee adjusts the regional rankings.

A weekend full of upsets didn't help the bubble teams.
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Re: Top 25 Discussion
« Reply #235 on: May 28, 2018, 02:26:07 pm »
Here is an update of how the Week #12 Top 25 performed in the 2018 National Championships.  The W-L records are as before the start of the NCAA tourney.

#   School (1st votes)   Rec   Pts   Prev.  Reg Rec. (Standing**)World Series
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1   UW-Whitewater (19)   31-6   618   12-3 (3)*
2   Rowan (3)   33-9   566   42-2 (4)*
3   Mass-Boston   34-8   560   54-2 (2) New Eng Reg*
4   Wooster (3)   36-8   539   24-0 (1)0-2
5   Randolph-Macon   31-7-1   508   34-0 (1)Bracket Finalist 2-2
6   Texas Lutheran   34-9   452   64-0 (1)Finalist 4-1
7   UW-Oshkosh   31-8   423   73-2 (2) Midwest Reg *
8   Concordia-Chicago   33-12   383   105-1 (1)Bracket Finalist 2-2
9   Cortland   32-10   368   93-2 (3)*
10   Salisbury   33-10   348   151-2 (4)*
11   TCNJ   28-9   325   121-2 (4)*
12   Franklin   38-3   307   141-2 (4)*
13   Christopher Newport   32-10   281   113-2 (2) South Reg*
14   La Roche   34-8-1   263   161-2 (4)*
15   Chapman   34-11   259   191-2 (4)*
16   Shenandoah   34-10   246   181-2 (4)*
17   Trinity (Texas)   33-9   238   8not selected*
18   Webster   36-8   228   202-2 (3)*
19   Redlands   33-11   196   170-2 (5)*
20   Roanoke   31-11   184   13not selected*
21   Keystone   34-10   136   212-2 (4)*
22   Oswego State   26-12   126   234-0 (1) 0-2
23   Babson   32-10   97   rv3-2 (2) Mid-Atl Reg*
24   Southern Maine   27-13   62   223-2 (2) New York Reg *
25   Adrian   33-10   56   rv2-2 (3)*
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RV Swarthmore 32-917rv4-0 (1)1-2
RV  Rhodes 29-1411rv3-2 (2) Central Reg*
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*  Misericordia 31-12****5-1 (1)1-2
*  Texas- Tyler 29-16**rv6-1 (1)3-1 Finalist
*   Wabash 28-15****4-2 (2) Mideast Reg**
*   Willamette 28-17****3-2 (2) West Reg**

Standings**

(1)  Won the regional
(2)  Regional Finalist
(3)  Elimination bracket finalist
(4)  Won at least 1 game in the Regionals
(5)  Went 0-2 in the Regionals

Corrections are always appreciated.
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