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Re: 2017 South Atlantic
« Reply #30 on: October 25, 2017, 05:20:13 pm »
SOUTH ATLANTIC REGION - NCAA REGIONAL RANKINGS - October 25, 2017

Rank

School
. Div. III .
Record
. Div. III .
SOS

 . R-v-R .
. Non-Conf. .
SOS
. Overall .
Record
. Prev. .
Rank
1.
Lynchburg
13-1-1
0.580
2-1-1
0.653
14-1-1
2
2.
Rowan
15-2-1
0.604
2-2-0
0.608
15-2-1
1
3.
Oglethorpe
13-1-1
0.590
2-1-0
0.676
13-2-1
3
4.
Washington and Lee
11-3-1
0.570
3-1-0
0.630
11-3-1
5
5.
Emory
11-4-0
0.642
2-3-0
0.635
11-4-0
4
6.
Rutgers-Newark
17-2-0
0.554
1-2-0
0.537
17-2-0
6
7.
Christopher Newport
11-2-1
0.547
1-2-0
0.631
12-2-1
8
8.
Mary Washington
11-4-1
0.556
1-3-0
0.675
11-4-1
7

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Re: 2017 South Atlantic
« Reply #31 on: October 26, 2017, 12:38:57 pm »
Can someone explain why Oglethorpe isn't #1 in this ranking?  I thought a result vs. a non-D3 opponent is only considered as a tiebreaker.

Identical D3 record to Lynchburg, slightly higher overall SOS and non-conference SOS.  2-1-0 RvR versus 2-1-1.  It's close, but not a tie.



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Re: 2017 South Atlantic
« Reply #32 on: October 26, 2017, 01:06:28 pm »
Can someone explain why Oglethorpe isn't #1 in this ranking?  I thought a result vs. a non-D3 opponent is only considered as a tiebreaker.

Identical D3 record to Lynchburg, slightly higher overall SOS and non-conference SOS.  2-1-0 RvR versus 2-1-1.  It's close, but not a tie.

Well, one of the primary criteria is "Division III head-to-head competition".  Lynchburg beat Oglethorpe head-to-head, 1-0 at Oglethorpe.

So, with everything thing else being pretty close, the head-to-head makes the difference.

Another primary criterion that wasn't mentioned is "Results versus common Division III opponents", however, this doesn't favor either team.
     vs. Roanoke - Oglethorpe W 3-0 (A), Lynchburg W 1-0 (A)
     vs. Berry - Oglethorpe W 2-1 (H), Lynchburg W 1-0 (A)

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Re: 2017 South Atlantic
« Reply #33 on: October 26, 2017, 01:12:05 pm »
Can someone explain why Oglethorpe isn't #1 in this ranking?  I thought a result vs. a non-D3 opponent is only considered as a tiebreaker.

Identical D3 record to Lynchburg, slightly higher overall SOS and non-conference SOS.  2-1-0 RvR versus 2-1-1.  It's close, but not a tie.

Well, one of the primary criteria is "Division III head-to-head competition".  Lynchburg beat Oglethorpe head-to-head, 1-0 at Oglethorpe.

So, with everything thing else being pretty close, the head-to-head makes the difference.

Another primary criterion that wasn't mentioned is "Results versus common Division III opponents", however, this doesn't favor either team.
     vs. Roanoke - Oglethorpe W 3-0 (A), Lynchburg W 1-0 (A)
     vs. Berry - Oglethorpe W 2-1 (H), Lynchburg W 1-0 (A)

I'm thinking the bold part is the winner. Hard to scoot past a team that beat you, especially if they beat you at your house, unless they have a significant blemish you don't have. Lynchburg just doesn't have that blemish.

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Re: 2017 South Atlantic
« Reply #34 on: October 26, 2017, 01:28:45 pm »
I can't find what I wanted (the video of Joe Hutzler that is a lead-in to game broadcasts where he is walking around the pitch at night with dramatic sound highlights flashing in the background), so this will have to do for now.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1yQErJDASQU

Joe Hutzler is easily the best D3 broadcast guy in the business.  Absolutely love this guy.  Just happened to come across him last year when Kenyon played Lynchburg.

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Re: 2017 South Atlantic
« Reply #35 on: November 01, 2017, 04:55:39 pm »
SOUTH ATLANTIC REGION - NCAA REGIONAL RANKINGS - November 01, 2017

Rank

School
. Div. III .
Record
. Div. III .
SOS

 . R-v-R .
. Overall .
Record
. Prev. .
Rank
1.
Lynchburg
14-1-2
0.577
2-1-1
15-1-2
1
2.
Rowan
16-2-1
0.594
2-2-0
16-2-1
2
3.
Oglethorpe
14-1-1
0.566
2-1-0
14-2-1
3
4.
Washington and Lee
13-3-1
0.564
3-1-0
13-3-1
4
5.
Rutgers-Newark
18-2-0
0.558
1-2-0
18-2-0
6
6.
Emory
11-5-1
0.636
2-3-1
11-5-1
5
7.
Christopher Newport
12-2-1
0.540
1-2-0
13-2-1
7
8.
Mary Washington
13-4-1
0.552
1-3-0
13-4-1
8
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Re: 2017 South Atlantic
« Reply #36 on: November 07, 2017, 01:38:09 pm »
SOUTH ATLANTIC REGION - NCAA REGIONAL RANKINGS - November 06, 2017

Rank

School
. Div. III .
Record
. Div. III .
SOS

 . R-v-R .
. Overall .
Record
. Prev. .
Rank
1.
Lynchburg
16-1-2
0.602
3-1-1
17-1-2
1
2.
Rowan
17-3-1
0.616
3-3-0
17-3-1
2
3.
Oglethorpe
16-1-1
0.576
1-1-0
16-2-1
3
4.
Rutgers-Newark
20-2-0
0.579
2-2-0
20-2-0
5
5.
Washington and Lee
14-4-1
0.580
3-2-1
14-4-1
4
6.
Emory
12-5-1
0.637
2-3-1
12-5-1
6
7.
Mary Washington
15-4-1
0.566
2-3-0
15-4-1
8
8.
Christopher Newport
13-3-1
0.547
1-3-0
14-3-1
7

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Re: 2017 South Atlantic
« Reply #37 on: November 07, 2017, 02:07:30 pm »
Did anyone get a more favorable draw than W&L? I hope my Generals can take advantage of it. I would have killed for this kind of draw the last two years.

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Re: 2017 South Atlantic
« Reply #38 on: November 07, 2017, 02:09:39 pm »
Did anyone get a more favorable draw than W&L? I hope my Generals can take advantage of it. I would have killed for this kind of draw the last two years.

You are at least top 2 of best draws IMO.  Winnable games and at home when hosting was probably not even on your radar.

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Re: 2017 South Atlantic
« Reply #39 on: November 07, 2017, 02:42:38 pm »
Is Mary Washington a good draw?  They seem pretty tough to me.

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Re: 2017 South Atlantic
« Reply #40 on: November 07, 2017, 02:48:51 pm »
Is Mary Washington a good draw?  They seem pretty tough to me.

It's a winnable game, at home, for a team that didn't win it's conference regular season or conference tournament. There aren't a lot of push overs at this level, and Mary Washington and Ogelthorpe aren't push overs, but in terms of teams within W&L's driving distance that they could have been sent to? Yes, it's a good draw.

That doesn't mean I think W&L is the favorite in the pod everyone else thinks. I just think it's not a pod with a National Powerhouse, so I think there are 3 teams that could conceivably come out of it and W&L gets to sleep in their own beds. It's not often a 5th ranked team in a region hosts, especially hosts the third ranked team...

W&L got fortunate, that doesn't mean it will be easy.

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Re: 2017 South Atlantic
« Reply #41 on: November 07, 2017, 09:30:57 pm »
Thanks for the insight.  I guess I should have figured out there arenít too many easy draws in the tournament.  Why do you think they got to host over the number 3 team, is that a tip of the cap to ODAC?

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Re: 2017 South Atlantic
« Reply #42 on: November 07, 2017, 10:14:01 pm »
Thanks for the insight.  I guess I should have figured out there arenít too many easy draws in the tournament.  Why do you think they got to host over the number 3 team, is that a tip of the cap to ODAC?

No. I think the most likely explanation is Oglethorpe didn't apply to host. The second explanation is they wanted a more geographically central host. Mary Washington could not have been in an Oglethorpe hosted bracket. It would have meant a flight. There were other options for an Atlanta pod though, Emory and Thomas More come to mind, so I think most likely is Oglethorpe did not apply. That would make sense for why they are at W&L and not Lynchburg,  as Lynchburg would have been a tougher draw for the Petrals.

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Re: 2017 South Atlantic
« Reply #43 on: October 15, 2018, 12:35:34 pm »
NCAA Rankings Prediction 2018
1 Lynchburg    10-0-2
2 MSU             13-1-2
3 UMW            9-1-3
4 Emory          8-4-1
5 Rowan         10-4-0
6 Oglethorpe    9-2-0
7 W&L             7-3-1
8 York/WPU/RUC/Salisbury


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Re: 2017 South Atlantic
« Reply #44 on: October 15, 2018, 01:01:04 pm »
I hope Salisbury gets a little more love.  I watched some of their game vs. #8 MWU (a win by the way) and they looked decent. Rowan on the other hand is not the same Rowan of years past.  They're not a #5 to me.