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Re: FB: Empire State Bowl 2017
« Reply #15 on: November 02, 2017, 09:32:29 am »
I think the issues present with this game are just going to exist no matter what you do:

1. Teams can opt out, which is never a good look
2. The two conferences play too many games against each other in the regular season, which kills the novelty angle
3. The game's premise—a postseason game where the year ends even if you win it—really only appeals to diehard fans (like us).
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I wasn't sure  how to reply to your post......1. Good and realistic points ....or 2. Every party has a pooper....
and I decided, it depends if Hobart makes it to the NYS/Empire/Liberty Bowl...and , hey ,so I am a die-hard...you got a problem with that? 8-)
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Re: FB: Empire State Bowl 2017
« Reply #16 on: November 02, 2017, 10:46:15 am »
My bad -- I assumed that ITH knew what it was talking about.
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Re: FB: New York State Bowl 2017
« Reply #17 on: November 02, 2017, 10:47:12 am »
Trying this again.
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Re: FB: Empire State Bowl 2017
« Reply #18 on: November 02, 2017, 11:24:34 am »
All right, I have never started a topic before...so I hope I am doing this right.

I just changed the title. No worries. Thanks for starting the topic!
Pat,
    Then why when they announced the bowl...it was the New York State Bowl?....naming it the Empire State Bowl would seem prejudicial towards the Empire 8 Conference , as this would imply it is their State, their League and Their Bowl....if it is called the Empire State(rhymes with Empire 8) Bowl, I think the Liberty League should take a pass...we will not accept such subliminal domination >:(

Isnt the "Liberty Bowl" moniker taken?

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Re: FB: Empire State Bowl 2017
« Reply #19 on: November 02, 2017, 11:32:26 am »
My bad -- I assumed that ITH knew what it was talking about.
Pat...+k for accuracy in journalism.....and for that..... 1 free ticket to the inaugural New York State Bowl....way better than those lopsided first round NCAA games ;D
« Last Edit: November 02, 2017, 12:04:53 pm by Bartman »
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Re: FB: New York State Bowl 2017
« Reply #20 on: November 02, 2017, 11:52:30 am »
Ill say this- If it is a Cortaca JugII game- Ill go.
Who doesnt love seeing college kids with Cuck Fortland tshirts on?

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Re: FB: New York State Bowl 2017
« Reply #21 on: November 02, 2017, 12:01:36 pm »
Ill say this- If it is a Cortaca JugII game- Ill go.
Who doesnt love seeing college kids with Cuck Fortland tshirts on?
The weird thing about Cortaca Jug II would be that both games would be played @ Ithaca.....I think if Ithaca wins Cortaca Jug I they should agree to play in Fortland
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Re: FB: Empire State Bowl 2017
« Reply #22 on: November 02, 2017, 12:20:11 pm »
My bad -- I assumed that ITH knew what it was talking about.

My bad - got my signals crossed on that one.
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Re: FB: New York State Bowl 2017
« Reply #23 on: November 02, 2017, 12:21:04 pm »
Don't get me wrong, extra football is nice.

Honestly, this is just about my general E8/LL fatigue. The teams play a ton, they bounce from one conference to the other. This is just another aspect of that. I'd have loved to see something with the NJAC or even a NE conference much more than "Oh look, Alfred's playing RPI again"

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Re: FB: New York State Bowl 2017
« Reply #24 on: November 02, 2017, 01:08:03 pm »
Bombers I get that -
But who would watch St. Lawrence Endicott?
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Re: FB: New York State Bowl 2017
« Reply #25 on: November 02, 2017, 01:23:20 pm »
I mean, my stance is that the venn diagram for people who truly care about these things is pretty much the same regardless of the matchup.

I have a well-documented bias against familiarity. Seeing new teams is fun. Seeing endless E8/LL matchups is less fun.

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Re: FB: New York State Bowl 2017
« Reply #26 on: November 02, 2017, 01:39:14 pm »
Agreed.
Then if we are still in this make believe scenario, lets choose the NJAC

Get ole Frosty or SU back.
Hell- Id like to see Wesley!

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Re: FB: New York State Bowl 2017
« Reply #27 on: November 02, 2017, 01:44:47 pm »
You may have seen the post by ITH radio on the ECAC board which mentions this year's ECAC games. And YES Liberty League and E8 teams are still eligible to play in them regardless of the new NYS Bowl (Which I might call the Upstate Bowl).  So far Alfred, Utica and Ithaca have declared interest. This year's GAMES, 4 in total, are being played at the University of Delaware's stadium. Next year they will be back at Penn's Franklin field where they were last year. Maybe the Carrier Dome might be a future sight? The NYS Bowl could be played as part of the ECAC Football Fest.

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Re: FB: New York State Bowl 2017
« Reply #28 on: November 02, 2017, 01:45:57 pm »
Agreed.
Then if we are still in this make believe scenario, lets choose the NJAC

Get ole Frosty or SU back.
Hell- Id like to see Wesley!

I would have liked that too. However, I think we are staying in the ECACs. I did like playing the E 8 schools, but those trips were fairly long. We did have quite a bit of success and I am sure it help the program prestige and respect. Can't remember why Wesley wasn't invited along with Salisbury and Frostburg.

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Re: FB: New York State Bowl 2017
« Reply #29 on: November 02, 2017, 02:28:08 pm »
Agreed.
Then if we are still in this make believe scenario, lets choose the NJAC

Get ole Frosty or SU back.
Hell- Id like to see Wesley!

I would have liked that too. However, I think we are staying in the ECACs. I did like playing the E 8 schools, but those trips were fairly long. We did have quite a bit of success and I am sure it help the program prestige and respect. Can't remember why Wesley wasn't invited along with Salisbury and Frostburg.
Seriously??? Frostburg and Salisbury are right where they belong, in the NJAC. Remember Cortland, Brockport, Buff St. and Morrisville were inexplicably in the NJAC for a period of time. Salisbury has played Union three times. First in a 1983 NCAA game in Maryland won by the Dutchmen (I was there). Then they had a short home and home in 2009 & 2010. The Seagulls won 19-16 and then came north to beat up Union 52-21 during Union's first losing season in 28 years. . This was when you were searching for a league affiliation. The next year you very successfully joined the E8. An occasional game against the NJAC powers OK...bringing them back north, NO WAY!