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2018 Season - National Perspective
« on: March 26, 2018, 10:13:20 pm »
I figured with schedules and recruiting classes being released, discussion from this point forward will be focused more on the coming season than on last season, so it made sense to create a new thread for the 2018 season.

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Re: 2018 Season - National Perspective
« Reply #1 on: March 26, 2018, 10:37:34 pm »
Messiah's 2018 schedule has been announced: http://gomessiah.com/schedule.aspx?schedule=232&path=msoc

Messiah - 2018 Non-Conference Schedule
8/31 (H) Cortland State (16-4-0, SUNYAC 1st, NCAA 2nd Rnd)
9/1 (H) Whitworth (10-8-1, NWC T-4th)
9/5 (H) Hartwick [Div. I] (7-9-2, Sun Belt 4th)
9/8 (A) Montclair State (13-7-1, NJAC 3rd)
9/12 (A) Dickinson (11-7-3, Centennial 5th, NCAA 1st Rnd)
9/15 (H) Eastern Mennonite (10-7-0, ODAC 8th)
9/19 (H) York (7-8-3, CAC 4th)
9/22 (A) Misericordia (3-14-1, Freedom 6th)
9/26 (H) Elizabethtown (10-7-2, Landmark 2nd)
10/1 (A) Johns Hopkins (16-1-4, Centennial 1st, NCAA Sweet 16)

Dropped from non-conference schedule: Chapman, Mary Washington, Haverford, Rowan

Added to non-conference schedule: Cortland State, Whitworth, Hartwick, Eastern Mennonite

Kept on non-conference schedule: Montclair State, Dickinson, York, Misericordia, Elizabethtown, Johns Hopkins
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Re: 2018 Season - National Perspective
« Reply #2 on: March 27, 2018, 06:59:32 am »
Messiah's 2018 schedule has been announced: http://gomessiah.com/schedule.aspx?schedule=232&path=msoc

Messiah - 2018 Non-Conference Schedule
8/31 (H) Cortland State (16-4-0, SUNYAC 1st, NCAA 2nd Rnd)
9/1 (H) Whitworth (10-8-1, NWC T-4th)
9/5 (H) Hartwick [Div. I] (7-9-2, Sun Belt 4th)
9/8 (A) Montclair State (13-7-1, NJAC 3rd)
9/12 (A) Dickinson (11-7-3, Centennial 5th, NCAA 1st Rnd)
9/15 (H) Eastern Mennonite (10-7-0, ODAC 8th)
9/19 (H) York (7-8-3, CAC 4th)
9/22 (A) Misericordia (3-14-1, Freedom 6th)
9/26 (H) Elizabethtown (10-7-2, Landmark 2nd)
10/1 (A) Johns Hopkins (16-1-4, Centennial 1st, NCAA Sweet 16)

Dropped from non-conference schedule: Chapman, Mary Washington, Haverford, Rowan

Added to non-conference schedule: Cortland State, Whitworth, Hartwick, Eastern Mennonite

Kept on non-conference schedule: Montclair State, York, Misericordia, Elizabethtown, Johns Hopkins

Dickinson is also kept on non conference schedule
How many of these were regionally ranked in last ranking last year? 
« Last Edit: March 27, 2018, 07:06:15 am by rudy »

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Re: 2018 Season - National Perspective
« Reply #3 on: March 27, 2018, 12:16:25 pm »
Messiah's 2018 schedule has been announced: http://gomessiah.com/schedule.aspx?schedule=232&path=msoc

Messiah - 2018 Non-Conference Schedule
8/31 (H) Cortland State (16-4-0, SUNYAC 1st, NCAA 2nd Rnd)
9/1 (H) Whitworth (10-8-1, NWC T-4th)
9/5 (H) Hartwick [Div. I] (7-9-2, Sun Belt 4th)
9/8 (A) Montclair State (13-7-1, NJAC 3rd)
9/12 (A) Dickinson (11-7-3, Centennial 5th, NCAA 1st Rnd)
9/15 (H) Eastern Mennonite (10-7-0, ODAC 8th)
9/19 (H) York (7-8-3, CAC 4th)
9/22 (A) Misericordia (3-14-1, Freedom 6th)
9/26 (H) Elizabethtown (10-7-2, Landmark 2nd)
10/1 (A) Johns Hopkins (16-1-4, Centennial 1st, NCAA Sweet 16)

Dropped from non-conference schedule: Chapman, Mary Washington, Haverford, Rowan

Added to non-conference schedule: Cortland State, Whitworth, Hartwick, Eastern Mennonite

Kept on non-conference schedule: Montclair State, Dickinson, York, Misericordia, Elizabethtown, Johns Hopkins


This is an example of how much praise on these boards I have given McCarty over the years for challenging his teams with solid Out of Conference scheduling. That was something that bothered me about Brandt. He usually had an extremely weak non-conference schedule and never challenged his teams out of conference. For the amount of talent Brandt's team had and for the fact that Messiah's league during most of his tenure was relatively weak except maybe Etown and Arcadia he would of been able to schedule anyone anywhere and still would have won his league. I guess it turned out to not matter anyway but from a distance it was head scratching.

As for this year it looks to me McCarty's schedule is pretty solid but might be a bit of a drop compared to last years. Hartwick will be a complete unknown but I have no idea why Haverford was dropped. That is a solid game for both teams. Still a schedule by the looks of it to be a .580-.590 SOS by November.

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Re: 2018 Season - National Perspective
« Reply #4 on: March 27, 2018, 11:31:26 pm »
This is an example of how much praise on these boards I have given McCarty over the years for challenging his teams with solid Out of Conference scheduling. That was something that bothered me about Brandt. He usually had an extremely weak non-conference schedule and never challenged his teams out of conference. For the amount of talent Brandt's team had and for the fact that Messiah's league during most of his tenure was relatively weak except maybe Etown and Arcadia he would of been able to schedule anyone anywhere and still would have won his league. I guess it turned out to not matter anyway but from a distance it was head scratching.

Messiah's 2018 schedule does appear to be clearly weaker than last years schedule.  However, if you consider their 2018 schedule to be solid and compliment Coach McCarty for it, then I wonder how you can say that Coach Brandt usually had weak non-conference schedules?  The 2006 non-conference schedule was horrible, no doubt about that, but most other years would have been comparable or better than the 2018 schedule.  Here are Messiah's non-conference opponents from the year after their second title thru to Brandt's final season showing each opponents' previous year's record and the given year's record.  Which of these years contribute to "usually" having a weak non-conference schedule"?

2003
Stevens (17-4-2, ECAC Champ)(19-2-2, Skyline Champs, NCAA)
Richard Stockton (18-5-0, NJAC Champs, NCAA's)(14-8-2, NJAC #1 Seed)
Chris. Newport (10-8-1, USA South #1 Seed)(12-5-3, USA South #1 Seed)
Muhlenberg (13-8-0)(17-5-1, Centennial Champs, NCAA's)
York (10-9-2)(15-7-1)
Mary Washington (14-2-3, CAC #1 Seed)(8-5-4)
Gettysburg (12-4-3)(10-7-1)
McDaniel (6-9-2)(15-8-1)

2004
Wheaton-Ill. (16-4-2, CCIW Champ, NCAA's)(18-5-0, CCIW Runner-up, NCAA's)
Arcadia (14-5-1, PAC Runner-Up)(16-3-4, PAC Champs, NCAA's)
Chris. Newport (12-5-3, USA South #1 Seed)(11-7-2)
Muhlenberg (17-5-1, Centennial Champs, NCAA's)(9-7-3)
Roanoke (10-5-2)(12-7-2, ODAC Champs, NCAA's)
McDaniel (15-8-1)(11-7-3, Centennial Runner-Up)
Gettysburg (10-7-1)(9-7-1)
Mary Washington (8-5-4)(8-9-2)

2005
Stevens (21-2-1, Skyline Champ, NCAA Sweet 16)(16-4-2, Skyline Champ, NCAA Sweet 16)
York (16-5-0)(18-2-3, CAC Champ, NCAA's)
Arcadia (16-3-4, PAC Champs, NCAA's)(13-4-3, PAC Runner-Up)
McDaniel (11-7-3, Centennial Runner-Up)(14-4-3, Centennial #1 Seed, NCAA's)
Roanoke (12-7-2, ODAC Champs, NCAA's)(8-7-0)
Gettysburg (9-7-1)(8-7-5)
St. Mary's (7-8-3)(12-7-1)
Marymount (7-10-1)(8-9-2)

2006
York (18-2-3, CAC Champ, NCAA's)(21-0-3, CAC Champ, NCAA Sweet 16)
McDaniel (14-4-3, Centennial #1 Seed, NCAA's)(9-9-0)
Kean (8-8-5)(10-8-5)
Roanoke (8-7-0)(9-8-1)
Cortland St. (10-8-1)(7-9-3)
St. Mary's (12-7-1)(7-10-2)
Wilkes (10-7-2)(12-6-1)
Lycoming (14-6-0)(6-8-3)

2007
York (21-0-3, CAC Champ, NCAA Sweet 16)(23-3-1, NCAA Elite 8)
Wheaton-Ill. (16-8-4, CCIW Champ, NCAA Runner-Up)(14-7-1, CCIW Champ, NCAA's)
Chris. Newport (15-5-2, USA-South #1 Seed, NCAA's)(11-7-0)
Gettysburg (12-6-4)(12-7-1, Centennial Runner-Up)
Greensboro (11-9-2)(14-5-3, USA South Champ, NCAA's)
DeSales (13-5-3, MAC-Freedom Champs, NCAA's)(10-10-2, MAC-Freedom Champs)
Roanoke (9-8-1)(12-8-2, ODAC Runner-Up)
TCNJ (7-8-1)(10-6-3)

2008
York (23-3-1, CAC Runner-Up, NCAA Elite 8)(18-0-2, CAC #1 Seed, NCAA's)
Wheaton-Ill. (14-7-1, CCIW Champ, NCAA's)(15-4-3, CCIW Champ, NCAA's)
Dickinson (13-3-3, NCAA's)(13-5-3)
Gettysburg (12-7-1, Centennial Runner-Up)(9-5-4)
TCNJ (10-6-3)(9-9-2)
Kean (9-10-0)(7-12-1)
DeSales (10-10-2, MAC-Freedom Champs)(6-12-1)

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Re: 2018 Season - National Perspective
« Reply #5 on: March 28, 2018, 09:05:21 am »
I love that Hartwick scheduled Messiah and I'd be curious to see who else they're picking up out of conference.  I would imagine Oneonta, which is another great measuring stick. Would love to see St. Lawrence too. 

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« Reply #6 on: March 28, 2018, 11:04:09 pm »
This is an example of how much praise on these boards I have given McCarty over the years for challenging his teams with solid Out of Conference scheduling. That was something that bothered me about Brandt. He usually had an extremely weak non-conference schedule and never challenged his teams out of conference. For the amount of talent Brandt's team had and for the fact that Messiah's league during most of his tenure was relatively weak except maybe Etown and Arcadia he would of been able to schedule anyone anywhere and still would have won his league. I guess it turned out to not matter anyway but from a distance it was head scratching.

Messiah's 2018 schedule does appear to be clearly weaker than last years schedule.  However, if you consider their 2018 schedule to be solid and compliment Coach McCarty for it, then I wonder how you can say that Coach Brandt usually had weak non-conference schedules?  The 2006 non-conference schedule was horrible, no doubt about that, but most other years would have been comparable or better than the 2018 schedule.  Here are Messiah's non-conference opponents from the year after their second title thru to Brandt's final season showing each opponents' previous year's record and the given year's record.  Which of these years contribute to "usually" having a weak non-conference schedule"?

2003
Stevens (17-4-2, ECAC Champ)(19-2-2, Skyline Champs, NCAA)
Richard Stockton (18-5-0, NJAC Champs, NCAA's)(14-8-2, NJAC #1 Seed)
Chris. Newport (10-8-1, USA South #1 Seed)(12-5-3, USA South #1 Seed)
Muhlenberg (13-8-0)(17-5-1, Centennial Champs, NCAA's)
York (10-9-2)(15-7-1)
Mary Washington (14-2-3, CAC #1 Seed)(8-5-4)
Gettysburg (12-4-3)(10-7-1)
McDaniel (6-9-2)(15-8-1)

2004
Wheaton-Ill. (16-4-2, CCIW Champ, NCAA's)(18-5-0, CCIW Runner-up, NCAA's)
Arcadia (14-5-1, PAC Runner-Up)(16-3-4, PAC Champs, NCAA's)
Chris. Newport (12-5-3, USA South #1 Seed)(11-7-2)
Muhlenberg (17-5-1, Centennial Champs, NCAA's)(9-7-3)
Roanoke (10-5-2)(12-7-2, ODAC Champs, NCAA's)
McDaniel (15-8-1)(11-7-3, Centennial Runner-Up)
Gettysburg (10-7-1)(9-7-1)
Mary Washington (8-5-4)(8-9-2)

2005
Stevens (21-2-1, Skyline Champ, NCAA Sweet 16)(16-4-2, Skyline Champ, NCAA Sweet 16)
York (16-5-0)(18-2-3, CAC Champ, NCAA's)
Arcadia (16-3-4, PAC Champs, NCAA's)(13-4-3, PAC Runner-Up)
McDaniel (11-7-3, Centennial Runner-Up)(14-4-3, Centennial #1 Seed, NCAA's)
Roanoke (12-7-2, ODAC Champs, NCAA's)(8-7-0)
Gettysburg (9-7-1)(8-7-5)
St. Mary's (7-8-3)(12-7-1)
Marymount (7-10-1)(8-9-2)

2006
York (18-2-3, CAC Champ, NCAA's)(21-0-3, CAC Champ, NCAA Sweet 16)
McDaniel (14-4-3, Centennial #1 Seed, NCAA's)(9-9-0)
Kean (8-8-5)(10-8-5)
Roanoke (8-7-0)(9-8-1)
Cortland St. (10-8-1)(7-9-3)
St. Mary's (12-7-1)(7-10-2)
Wilkes (10-7-2)(12-6-1)
Lycoming (14-6-0)(6-8-3)

2007
York (21-0-3, CAC Champ, NCAA Sweet 16)(23-3-1, NCAA Elite 8)
Wheaton-Ill. (16-8-4, CCIW Champ, NCAA Runner-Up)(14-7-1, CCIW Champ, NCAA's)
Chris. Newport (15-5-2, USA-South #1 Seed, NCAA's)(11-7-0)
Gettysburg (12-6-4)(12-7-1, Centennial Runner-Up)
Greensboro (11-9-2)(14-5-3, USA South Champ, NCAA's)
DeSales (13-5-3, MAC-Freedom Champs, NCAA's)(10-10-2, MAC-Freedom Champs)
Roanoke (9-8-1)(12-8-2, ODAC Runner-Up)
TCNJ (7-8-1)(10-6-3)

2008
York (23-3-1, CAC Runner-Up, NCAA Elite 8)(18-0-2, CAC #1 Seed, NCAA's)
Wheaton-Ill. (14-7-1, CCIW Champ, NCAA's)(15-4-3, CCIW Champ, NCAA's)
Dickinson (13-3-3, NCAA's)(13-5-3)
Gettysburg (12-7-1, Centennial Runner-Up)(9-5-4)
TCNJ (10-6-3)(9-9-2)
Kean (9-10-0)(7-12-1)
DeSales (10-10-2, MAC-Freedom Champs)(6-12-1)


Great post by Flying Weasel and I have to agree with his conclusion based on his thorough research.

As for Mr.Right...I'll go with a quote from W. Edwards Deming..."Without data you're just another person with an opinion."

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Re: 2018 Season - National Perspective
« Reply #7 on: March 28, 2018, 11:10:44 pm »
Chicago's schedule: http://athletics.uchicago.edu/sports/msoc/2018-19/schedule

It's loaded.  Trinity (Tx.), North Park, Loras, and Calvin in their non-conference schedule on top of the ever-deep and competitive UAA slate.

Non-conference schedule
9/1 (A) Trinity (Tx.)
9/3 (N) TBD (at Trinity (Tx.)
9/5 (A) Benedictine (Ill.)
9/8 (A) North Park
9/12 (H) Wheaton (Ill.)
9/15 (H) Loras
9/16 (H) Macalester
9/19 (H) Carroll (Wis.)
9/22 (A) Calvin
10/17 (H) Carthage

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« Reply #8 on: March 28, 2018, 11:39:59 pm »
Ohio Wesleyan's schedule:  http://www.battlingbishops.com/schedule.aspx?schedule=226

A disappointing pair of opponents (Waynesburg, Hanover) for their own invitational. But solid opening weekend out at Wheaton and then they play the best of the OAC before NCAC play begins.

Non-conference schedule
8/31 (N) Washington U. (at Wheaton-Ill.)  [Bob Baptista Invitational]
9/1 (A) Wheaton (Ill.)  [Bob Baptista Invitational]
9/7 (H) Waynesburg  [Fred Myers Invitational]
9/8 (H) Hanover  [Fred Myers Invitational]
9/12 (H) Ohio Northern
9/15 (H) John Carroll
9/19 (A) Otterbein
9/26 (A) Capital

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« Reply #9 on: March 28, 2018, 11:40:48 pm »
Wheaton (Ill.)'s schedule: http://athletics.wheaton.edu/schedule.aspx?schedule=243&path=msoccer

Non-conference schedule
8/31 (H) Benedictine
9/1 (H) Ohio Wesleyan
9/5 (A) Albion
9/10 (H) Concordia-Chicago
9/12 (A) Chicago
9/15 (A) Luther
9/17 (H) Aurora
9/19 (H) Lake Forest
9/22 (A) Washington U.
10/20 (A) UW-Whitewater

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« Reply #10 on: March 29, 2018, 12:11:02 am »
Loras' 2018 schedule: http://duhawks.com/schedule.aspx?schedule=1198

Non-conference schedule
8/31 (A) Elmhurst
9/8 (H) St. Olaf
9/15 (N) Chicago (at Carthage)
9/16 (A) Carthage
9/19 (A) St. Mary's (Minn.)
9/26 (H) Iowa Wesleayn
10/1 (A) UW-Whitewater
10/9 (A) UW-Platteville
10/18 (A) Knox

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« Reply #11 on: March 29, 2018, 12:22:21 am »
Some of the 2018 schedules that are out there . . .

Albion: http://www.gobrits.com/sports/msoc/2018-19/schedule
Alfred State: http://www.alfredstateathletics.com/sports/msoc/2018-19/schedule
Augsburg: http://athletics.augsburg.edu/schedule.aspx?schedule=793
Aurora: http://athletics.aurora.edu/schedule.aspx?path=msoc
Bethany Lutheran: http://www.blcvikings.com/schedule.aspx?schedule=206
Chicago: http://athletics.uchicago.edu/sports/msoc/2018-19/schedule
Concordia-Chicago: http://cucougars.com/schedule.aspx?path=msoc
Concordia (Wisc.): http://www.cuwfalcons.com/sports/msoc/2018-19/schedule
Concordia-Moorhead: http://concordiamn.prestosports.com/sports/msoc/2018-19/schedule
Edgewood: http://edgewoodcollegeeagles.com/schedule.aspx?schedule=227
Elmhurst: https://elmhurstbluejays.com/schedule.aspx?schedule=219&path=msoc
Ferrum: http://www.ferrumpanthers.com/schedule.aspx?schedule=235&path=msoc
Loras: http://duhawks.com/schedule.aspx?schedule=1198
Lycoming: http://athletics.lycoming.edu/schedule.aspx?schedule=744&path=msoc
Martin Luther: http://mlcknights.com/schedule.aspx?schedule=134&path=msoc
Messiah: http://gomessiah.com/schedule.aspx?schedule=232&path=msoc
Minn.-Morris: http://morriscougars.com/schedule.aspx?schedule=1217
Muskingum: http://www.fightingmuskies.com/sports/msoc/2018-19/schedule
Nebraska Wesleyan: https://nwusports.com/schedule.aspx?schedule=196&path=msoc
North Central: https://www.northcentralcardinals.com/schedule.aspx?schedule=221&path=msoc
Ohio Northern: http://www.onusports.com/sports/msoc/2018-19/schedule
Ohio Wesleyan: http://www.battlingbishops.com/schedule.aspx?schedule=226
Olivet: http://www.olivetcomets.com/sports/msoc/2018-19/schedule
Rockford: http://goregents.com/sports/msoc/2018-19/schedule
Rose-Hulman: http://athletics.rose-hulman.edu/sports/msoc/2018-19/schedule
Shenandoah: http://www.suhornets.com/sports/msoc/2018-19/schedule
St. John's (Minn.): http://www.gojohnnies.com/schedule.aspx?schedule=273&path=msoc
St. Mary's (Minn.): http://www.saintmaryssports.com/schedule.aspx?schedule=565
St. Olaf: http://athletics.stolaf.edu/schedule.aspx?schedule=777
UW-Platteville: http://athletics.uwplatt.edu/sports/msoc/2018-19/schedule
UW-Whitewater: http://www.uwwsports.com/schedule.aspx?schedule=509&path=msoc
Wheaton (Ill.): http://athletics.wheaton.edu/schedule.aspx?schedule=243&path=msoccer
Wis. Lutheran: http://wlcsports.com/sports/msoc/2018-19/schedule

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« Reply #12 on: March 29, 2018, 08:41:31 am »
Looks like a midwestern slant to the colleges releasing schedules this early...

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« Reply #13 on: March 29, 2018, 09:32:15 am »
Looks like a midwestern slant to the colleges releasing schedules this early...

NESCAC typically last (or close to it) . . .

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« Reply #14 on: March 29, 2018, 11:05:32 am »
This is an example of how much praise on these boards I have given McCarty over the years for challenging his teams with solid Out of Conference scheduling. That was something that bothered me about Brandt. He usually had an extremely weak non-conference schedule and never challenged his teams out of conference. For the amount of talent Brandt's team had and for the fact that Messiah's league during most of his tenure was relatively weak except maybe Etown and Arcadia he would of been able to schedule anyone anywhere and still would have won his league. I guess it turned out to not matter anyway but from a distance it was head scratching.

Messiah's 2018 schedule does appear to be clearly weaker than last years schedule.  However, if you consider their 2018 schedule to be solid and compliment Coach McCarty for it, then I wonder how you can say that Coach Brandt usually had weak non-conference schedules?  The 2006 non-conference schedule was horrible, no doubt about that, but most other years would have been comparable or better than the 2018 schedule.  Here are Messiah's non-conference opponents from the year after their second title thru to Brandt's final season showing each opponents' previous year's record and the given year's record.  Which of these years contribute to "usually" having a weak non-conference schedule"?

2003
Stevens (17-4-2, ECAC Champ)(19-2-2, Skyline Champs, NCAA)
Richard Stockton (18-5-0, NJAC Champs, NCAA's)(14-8-2, NJAC #1 Seed)
Chris. Newport (10-8-1, USA South #1 Seed)(12-5-3, USA South #1 Seed)
Muhlenberg (13-8-0)(17-5-1, Centennial Champs, NCAA's)
York (10-9-2)(15-7-1)
Mary Washington (14-2-3, CAC #1 Seed)(8-5-4)
Gettysburg (12-4-3)(10-7-1)
McDaniel (6-9-2)(15-8-1)

2004
Wheaton-Ill. (16-4-2, CCIW Champ, NCAA's)(18-5-0, CCIW Runner-up, NCAA's)
Arcadia (14-5-1, PAC Runner-Up)(16-3-4, PAC Champs, NCAA's)
Chris. Newport (12-5-3, USA South #1 Seed)(11-7-2)
Muhlenberg (17-5-1, Centennial Champs, NCAA's)(9-7-3)
Roanoke (10-5-2)(12-7-2, ODAC Champs, NCAA's)
McDaniel (15-8-1)(11-7-3, Centennial Runner-Up)
Gettysburg (10-7-1)(9-7-1)
Mary Washington (8-5-4)(8-9-2)

2005
Stevens (21-2-1, Skyline Champ, NCAA Sweet 16)(16-4-2, Skyline Champ, NCAA Sweet 16)
York (16-5-0)(18-2-3, CAC Champ, NCAA's)
Arcadia (16-3-4, PAC Champs, NCAA's)(13-4-3, PAC Runner-Up)
McDaniel (11-7-3, Centennial Runner-Up)(14-4-3, Centennial #1 Seed, NCAA's)
Roanoke (12-7-2, ODAC Champs, NCAA's)(8-7-0)
Gettysburg (9-7-1)(8-7-5)
St. Mary's (7-8-3)(12-7-1)
Marymount (7-10-1)(8-9-2)

2006
York (18-2-3, CAC Champ, NCAA's)(21-0-3, CAC Champ, NCAA Sweet 16)
McDaniel (14-4-3, Centennial #1 Seed, NCAA's)(9-9-0)
Kean (8-8-5)(10-8-5)
Roanoke (8-7-0)(9-8-1)
Cortland St. (10-8-1)(7-9-3)
St. Mary's (12-7-1)(7-10-2)
Wilkes (10-7-2)(12-6-1)
Lycoming (14-6-0)(6-8-3)

2007
York (21-0-3, CAC Champ, NCAA Sweet 16)(23-3-1, NCAA Elite 8)
Wheaton-Ill. (16-8-4, CCIW Champ, NCAA Runner-Up)(14-7-1, CCIW Champ, NCAA's)
Chris. Newport (15-5-2, USA-South #1 Seed, NCAA's)(11-7-0)
Gettysburg (12-6-4)(12-7-1, Centennial Runner-Up)
Greensboro (11-9-2)(14-5-3, USA South Champ, NCAA's)
DeSales (13-5-3, MAC-Freedom Champs, NCAA's)(10-10-2, MAC-Freedom Champs)
Roanoke (9-8-1)(12-8-2, ODAC Runner-Up)
TCNJ (7-8-1)(10-6-3)

2008
York (23-3-1, CAC Runner-Up, NCAA Elite 8)(18-0-2, CAC #1 Seed, NCAA's)
Wheaton-Ill. (14-7-1, CCIW Champ, NCAA's)(15-4-3, CCIW Champ, NCAA's)
Dickinson (13-3-3, NCAA's)(13-5-3)
Gettysburg (12-7-1, Centennial Runner-Up)(9-5-4)
TCNJ (10-6-3)(9-9-2)
Kean (9-10-0)(7-12-1)
DeSales (10-10-2, MAC-Freedom Champs)(6-12-1)


Great post by Flying Weasel and I have to agree with his conclusion based on his thorough research.

As for Mr.Right...I'll go with a quote from W. Edwards Deming..."Without data you're just another person with an opinion."


I am to lazy to get the data but how bout we get a SOS for Messiah during these years. IIRC it was always in the .530-.545 range.  Last years was maybe .575 or .580. Also, during this time frame I see 1 solid outfit. York. That's it. None of the other teams made a solid NCAA run except Wheaton(IL). They made some decent runs in the NCAA's in somewhat weak regions some years. Once they hit the 2006 NCAA Final 4 they were completely outclassed. I see no top NJAC teams not even the top Centennial teams. What I do see is a ton of mediocrity. Richard Stockton by 2002 was a shell of what they were at the turn of the century. They played Stevens one year and Stevens did not even make the NCAA's. So you really need to look beyond this data that was presented without even giving us a year by year SOS for Messiah compared to 2017.

Another issue with Brandt was Messiah would ask for and given the religious exemption throughout his tenure. They would play the Fri / Sat pods while most other teams would play the Sat / Sun pods. Mind you this was before games were streamed. I had no problem with Messiah asking for the religious exemption. What I and many others did have a problem with was with Brandt. He would hop in his car on the Sunday and go scout the two teams he would be playing in the next round. Totally unethical and basically cheating because the other teams had no way of scouting Messiah as there was no point in scouting them on the Friday because you had to win 2 games anyway and were focused on that. Any data on that? Probably not because well that is not opinion that is FACT. So Brandt instead of going to church or whatever you people do on the Sunday would hop in his car and drive wherever to go scout on the same day they were claiming they couldn't play on because of religious interference but were able to scout on?? It was cheating.