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Re: 2018 Season - National Perspective
« Reply #60 on: April 27, 2018, 09:36:07 am »
Hampden-Sydney beat D1 Longwood 4-0.

At first I was impressed, until I see that Longwood was 1-15-2 and were outscored 11-40 last season. :o

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Re: 2018 Season - National Perspective
« Reply #61 on: April 27, 2018, 12:18:21 pm »
... and there's only 18 players on Longwood's spring roster, including only three players who registered a point last season. The starting goalkeeper's gone as well.
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Re: 2018 Season - National Perspective
« Reply #62 on: April 27, 2018, 01:44:23 pm »
Messiah Instagram reports Messiah lost to Bucknell University 1-0 this weekend.

I didn't see this game myself, but someone who did told me this: Both teams played well with at least a few scoring chances, but Falcons didn't do as much as they could have with theirs. On the Falcon side of the ball, lots of people playing new positions. (They are losing five starters to graduation, and I think he said that at least one key returning player, Shea Quintin,  did not play owing to injury.) Bucknell scored in the second half when Messiah's target was manhandled and lost the ball, leading to a quick counterattack with a very nice finish.

That's all I know. If anyone actually saw it, I'd love to hear another opinion.

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Re: 2018 Season - National Perspective
« Reply #63 on: April 27, 2018, 02:10:44 pm »
... and there's only 18 players on Longwood's spring roster, including only three players who registered a point last season. The starting goalkeeper's gone as well.

I've got 1 year of eligibility left.  Maybe I'll look at some graduate classes  :P

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Re: 2018 Season - National Perspective
« Reply #64 on: April 27, 2018, 03:44:15 pm »
LOL!
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Re: 2018 Season - National Perspective
« Reply #65 on: April 29, 2018, 02:25:27 pm »
So, as it turned out, the NCAA decided not to have the refs keep time on the field after all.

Good call, NCAA!  (I don't get to write that very often.)

http://www.ncaa.org/about/resources/media-center/news/harsher-illegal-participation-penalties-approved-soccer

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Re: 2018 Season - National Perspective
« Reply #66 on: April 30, 2018, 08:55:35 pm »
... and there's only 18 players on Longwood's spring roster, including only three players who registered a point last season. The starting goalkeeper's gone as well.
Yeah, not a good team. It does show that decent D3 teams can beat bottom D1 teams.

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Re: 2018 Season - National Perspective
« Reply #67 on: May 10, 2018, 12:06:19 am »
Messiah Instagram reports Messiah lost to Bucknell University 1-0 this weekend.

I didn't see this game myself, but someone who did told me this: Both teams played well with at least a few scoring chances, but Falcons didn't do as much as they could have with theirs. On the Falcon side of the ball, lots of people playing new positions. (They are losing five starters to graduation, and I think he said that at least one key returning player, Shea Quintin,  did not play owing to injury.) Bucknell scored in the second half when Messiah's target was manhandled and lost the ball, leading to a quick counterattack with a very nice finish.

That's all I know. If anyone actually saw it, I'd love to hear another opinion.

Report I got was Messiah had 2 SOG's for the game.  And the Bucknell goal came off of a pass to a back who mishandled it.

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Re: 2018 Season - National Perspective
« Reply #68 on: July 10, 2018, 04:50:32 pm »
So, as it turned out, the NCAA decided not to have the refs keep time on the field after all.

Good call, NCAA!  (I don't get to write that very often.)

http://www.ncaa.org/about/resources/media-center/news/harsher-illegal-participation-penalties-approved-soccer

Not really directly relevant, but time wasting is one of my pet peeves about soccer (and it happens a lot on all levels.)

538 just came out with this re: FIFA and stoppage time: https://fivethirtyeight.com/features/world-cup-stoppage-time-is-wildly-inaccurate/

TL:DR - Basically the average amount of stoppage added is around 6 minutes, which includes both halves. By 538s estimation, it should be close to double at around 13 minutes a game.

Keep in mind, they capped a lot of this by not starting the time wasting until, say, 20 seconds after a ball went out of bounds, or 60 seconds after a goal. I'm not really sure why, because the point is that timekeeping is ridiculous in the FIFA system. It's slightly less problematic in NCAA and high school leagues that use a scoreboard, but it's still THE WORST in comparison to other sports that keep a clock... By a really wide margin.


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Re: 2018 Season - National Perspective
« Reply #69 on: July 10, 2018, 08:49:11 pm »
So, as it turned out, the NCAA decided not to have the refs keep time on the field after all.

Good call, NCAA!  (I don't get to write that very often.)

http://www.ncaa.org/about/resources/media-center/news/harsher-illegal-participation-penalties-approved-soccer

Not really directly relevant, but time wasting is one of my pet peeves about soccer (and it happens a lot on all levels.)

538 just came out with this re: FIFA and stoppage time: https://fivethirtyeight.com/features/world-cup-stoppage-time-is-wildly-inaccurate/

TL:DR - Basically the average amount of stoppage added is around 6 minutes, which includes both halves. By 538s estimation, it should be close to double at around 13 minutes a game.

Keep in mind, they capped a lot of this by not starting the time wasting until, say, 20 seconds after a ball went out of bounds, or 60 seconds after a goal. I'm not really sure why, because the point is that timekeeping is ridiculous in the FIFA system. It's slightly less problematic in NCAA and high school leagues that use a scoreboard, but it's still THE WORST in comparison to other sports that keep a clock... By a really wide margin.

I don't say this very often, but fivethirtyeight missed a very important point in this article. One might even say they missed the most important point. In a 90 minute game, plus stoppage time, the point is the ball is supposed to be in play for about 60 minutes. Stoppage time is supposed to make up for minutes under 60, not minutes under 90 less some variance. 90 minutes by itself builds in a lot of the time fivethirtyeight is complaining about. That is why FIFA, as late as 2017, was having roundtable discussions about going to two 30 minute, stopped clock for out of play, halves. It was brought up around the Confed Cup last year as an alternative. It hasn't gone very far yet, but FIFA wants 60 minutes of game play. Whether that is done with the current system, or with a stopped clock system, is something that is being studied at some level, though it will be very hard to change the existing tradition.

https://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/soccer/2017/06/18/fifa-panel-invites-debate-on-radical-60-minute-game-clock/102990272/

Regardless, the fivethirtyeight article actual shows it's not too bad as it is. If you add up the minutes in play column and the stoppage time actual, you get around 60 minutes in most games. Looks like the lowest is around 55 minutes and the highest around 70 minutes. If you go by their stoppage time expected, you'd be way over in almost every case, between 65 and 75 minutes in just about every game.

Fivethirtyeight let someone who misunderstands the purpose of a 90 minute game, in a very fundamental way, screw up this article. That's a shame.

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Re: 2018 Season - National Perspective
« Reply #70 on: August 07, 2018, 03:45:07 pm »

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Re: 2018 Season - National Perspective
« Reply #71 on: August 07, 2018, 04:23:58 pm »
I know these don't mean much of anything this far out...but the preseason rankings are out: http://unitedsoccercoaches.org/web/Rankings/College_Rankings/NCAA_DIII_MEN/web/Rankings/NCAA/DIII_MEN.aspx?hkey=8152a37c-dcf4-4681-b87d-1404b6d21915

While technically just released on August 7th, they were in fact first published on December 6th... https://www.ncaa.com/rankings/soccer-men/d3/united-soccer-coaches

I wish they would do an actual preseason poll.

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Re: 2018 Season - National Perspective
« Reply #72 on: August 13, 2018, 08:38:55 am »
Here is a link to the Men's and Women's 2018 Preseason conference polls. The only conference posted so far is the CCIW which was discussed in the CCIW thread.

http://www.d3soccer.com/notables/2018/Preseason-Conference-Polls

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Re: 2018 Season - National Perspective
« Reply #73 on: August 18, 2018, 09:10:39 am »
Former Trinity (TX)/MLS defender Lance Key is returning to the sidelines of his alma mater on a part-time basis, this time on the men's side, per his Instagram post.   After completing his MLS career, Key had coached the Trinity women (2004-2016, national finals in 2013) prior to departing for other opportunities.

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Re: 2018 Season - National Perspective
« Reply #74 on: August 23, 2018, 05:20:48 pm »
FWIW, last night Messiah defeated Rutgers-Newark 2-1 in Newark.  The final score is all I know at this point.  Messiah will host Randolph-Macon Saturday afternoon in another preseason match.