Quote from: CNU85 on November 11, 2025, 04:06:41 PM

Quote from: MCScots2013 on November 11, 2025, 02:54:48 PMCNU85, don't take this the wrong way--it helps to have a $200 million from the state.  Of course, the University has to be great stewards of the money to keep the level, and it sounds like CNU as stepped up.  As a Virginia taxpayer, I am glad you are able to boast on your alma mater!

2025 Budgets:
CNU: $201m
W&M: $469m
GMU: $1.5b
JMU: $784m
Longwood: $175m
Norfolk State: $240m
ODU:$585m
Radford: $285m
Mary Wash.: $175m
UVA: $2.2b ($68m for UVA-Wise)
VCU: $1.5b
VMI: $104m
Tech: $1.8b (gotta pay for a new coach...)
VSU: $234m

I didn't take it the wrong way at all. Facts are what they are. I appreciate it. And you are correct in that CNU is a good steward of what is received. It is also difficult (for me) to always understand what is truly paid by the state. I'm interested in knowing your source. I looked at Budget Bill HB1600 and get $115 Million for FY 2025 and that dropped to $109 Million for FY 2026. Still not chump change.

Also, none of the building costs came from the state appropriations budget. They are all funded by bonds. And as you are most likely aware, in Virginia, zero state money goes towards athletics.

You may have caught me with my pants down and not paying enough attention between Teams call this afternoon. From the biennial 2024 budget, but the big, bold "Introduced" didn't catch my eye.  https://budget.lis.virginia.gov/secretariat/2024/1/HB30/Introduced/1/office-of-education/

Although no state money goes towards athletics, facilities/salaries/etc. don't have to necessarily compete with athletics for donor money.  If I'm a graduate of CNU I'm earmarking my money for athletics since my taxes can't be.

CNU85, don't take this the wrong way--it helps to have a $200 million from the state.  Of course, the University has to be great stewards of the money to keep the level, and it sounds like CNU as stepped up.  As a Virginia taxpayer, I am glad you are able to boast on your alma mater!

2025 Budgets:
CNU: $201m
W&M: $469m
GMU: $1.5b
JMU: $784m
Longwood: $175m
Norfolk State: $240m
ODU:$585m
Radford: $285m
Mary Wash.: $175m
UVA: $2.2b ($68m for UVA-Wise)
VCU: $1.5b
VMI: $104m
Tech: $1.8b (gotta pay for a new coach...)
VSU: $234m

You can have a good idea until it becomes a bad one.  Students are flocking away from smaller more pricier schools for larger and "cost effective" ones. (Isn't that the theme of this thread in recent history?)  A small increase would be a hassle, potentially problematic unless that increase is from commuter students. 

Quote from: Ron Boerger on November 11, 2025, 10:47:45 AMSurprisingly, CNU's admission rate is somewhere in the mid-80s (86% for the class that entered last year per CNU itself).  Of that 86%, only 18% actually enrolled.

Admitting 6300 freshmen with a total student body of 4500 seems a little crazy. Can't be a common practice, right?  Would probably run into issues if more students decided they wanted to live near the water.

Not linking it here, but a 2024-2025 Report to the General Assembly shows CNU ($16,800) is above average statewide with tuition and fees for state supported schools ($14,500).  CNU is similar to VCU, Virginia Tech and Longwood in that regard. UVA and William & Mary are well above the mean.

I surely would not have been able to attend Maryville without my scholarship (which is probably the same feeling of 99% of college students nationally, both then and today).  I think at the time--2009-- the sticker price was just under 40k/year.  Many schools in the region were well under that, many well over.  HSC (local to me) was maybe 50k, W&L closer to 60k as was U of R (Richmond)--though I had no desires to go there.  Several people I went to high school with went to Ferrum.  Ferrum was much lower than many of the other VA small liberal arts/D3 schools.  The one outlier was/is Christopher Newport which is a state school with what I have to imagine is a very competitive admissions process.

This reminds me of a Warren Buffett quote: "Price is what you pay, value is what you get."  If being the cheapest tuition correlated into the highest enrollment, Happy Valley Community College would have 80k students instead of Penn State.

Birmingham-Southern tried it and failed. Sweet Briar tried it and is still around after the board attempted to close in 2015. I hope more find success like Sweet Briar.

Former D3'er Emory & Henry announced a tuition cut for 2026 to under $20k. Doesn't seem like they are doing that because they're busting at the seams with money. Another former D3 school (and E&H's little brother) Ferrum is running into issues as well and cut tuition by $10k this year.

E&H, Ferrum, Averett, reportedly Lynchburg are all VA schools with issues. Guilford in Greensboro has its own issues as noted on the Region 3 Football>ODAC board.

A friend of mine sent me a video from a Facebook post. The angle is from the corner of the end zone, scuffle around the 30 or so. Could not really tell what was going on.

For that, Pat, I apologize on behalf of Maryville College, Maryville City, Blount County and East Tennessee. I can keep going if more is needed...

Maryville had a guy named George DeBaby who was the absolute worst for about 10 years or more. Just a disaster. Before that we had Roger Hoover for a couple years, who last I heard called games on the Alabama network. He was a real talent. Now that I think of it, that's probably when streaming took off and became a thing. Been a while.

But for Berry, I could probably see past the master level homer-ness if the camera angles were better. Football and basketball. Football has to have a replay every snap and is late getting back to the next snap half the time or the camera is zoomed in way too close. Basketball had some technical issues yesterday with the video that made the action look like I was trying to watch the Wide World of Sports on an RCA or something (really, I can look past that. things happen), but again—camera angles all weekend were lacking. Couldn't even see half of the backboard. If students are the ones doing the production there has to be a faculty advisor that should know people want to see the dang backboard.

At least we don't have to pay FloSports for it...

It's funny you can hear their coaches yell for every hold on the visiting team, yet the blatant offsides and holdings they commit and don't get flagged for...not a peep. A side note: officiating this year has been atrocious. Home games, away games, SAA, nationally. Send them back to the high school leagues.

The loudest and most obnoxious guy they have made his way to the gym at half of the beat down our men's team was putting on them. Sweet vengeance I guess.

I muted the game with 15 minutes to go in the second half. Somehow when he showed up the volume abruptly 10x.

These Berry guys are almost unbearable to listen to. You'd think everyone on the roster craps gold the way they call the game. Centre and Trinity have much better guys in the box.

For smaller private institutions with 3-2 tracks with larger state universities, this could allow for enrollment increases (albeit for 3 year cycles) for the smaller school if students want the best of both worlds.  For example, Maryville has 3-2 track for engineering with Tennessee.  3 years at MC, 2 at UTK. Campuses are what?  15 miles apart?

For the smaller colleges out in the middle of nowhere, this would be a disadvantage.  For those in suburban areas with the big schools to support it...major advantage.  For Jack's Yellow Jackets, they're 30 minutes from VCU and U of R.  HSC...has Longwood.

Anyone with the inside scoop on next year's conference schedules?  I'm sure it won't be a hard sell to my wife on a trip to San Antonio...

Finally at the part of the schedule we knew would be tough since April. First things first: Need to play spoiler this November as we did last November in GA.