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#31
National topics / Re: 2025 Playoffs
May 20, 2025, 05:17:39 PM
Regional Winners

Here are the 2 teams that went 3-1, W, W, L, W. The legend is NPI ranking of the opponent in the opening win, and win #2, for loss #1, then win #3; Team; Pool bid; Team NPI Ranking; Conference

#93, #39, #39, #39    Trinity    A  #9  SCAC
#35, #14, #35, #35    UW Oshkosh  C  #24  WIAC

Here is the 1 team that went 4-1, W, L, W, W, W. The legend is NPI ranking of the opponent in the opening win, for loss #1, then wins #2, #3 and #4; Team; Pool bid; Team NPI Ranking; Conference

#20, #16, #20, #16, #16  CMS    C  #26  SCIAC


Here are the 13 teams that went 3-0, W, W, W. The legend is NPI ranking of the opponent in the opening win, and for win #2, for win #3. Team; Pool bid; Team NPI Ranking; Conference

#126, #28, #63      JHU          A  #1  Centennial
#84, #31, #31      Denison      A  #2  NCAC
#74, #30, #74      UWW          A  #3  WIAC
#10, #27, #27      Endicott      A  #4  CNE
#131, #21, #21      Lynchburg    A  #5  ODAC

#69, #32, #32      Salisbury    C  #7  C2C
#174, #45, #18      Kean          C  #8  NJAC
#107, #36, #38      Salve Regina  A  #10 NEWMAC
#64, #47, #47      Rowan        C  #12 NJAC
#117, #60, #17      CWRU          A  #13 UAA

#40, #15, #88      Belhaven      C  #19 CSS
#33, #6, #33        McMurry      C  #42 SCAC
#22, #72, #72      Messiah      A  #48 MACC

#32
National topics / Re: 2025 Playoffs
May 20, 2025, 04:58:24 PM
Teams making the playoffs and their NPIs

1)  JHU                    A  Centennial
2)  Denison                A  NCAC
3)  UW-Whitewater          A  WIAC
4)  Endicott                A  Conf of New England
5)  Lynchburg              A  ODAC
6)  La Verne                A  SCIAC
7)  Salisbury              C1  C2C
8)  Kean                    C2  NJAC
9)  Trinity TX              A  SCAC
10) Salve Regina            A  NEWMAC

11) SUNY Brockport          A  Empire 8
12) Rowan                  C3  NJAC
13) CWRU                    A  UAA
14) Gustavus Adolphus      A  MIAC
15) Webster                A  SLIAC
16) UW La Crosse            C4  WIAC
17) Centre                  C5  SAA
18) Cortland                A  SUNYAC
19) Belhaven                C6  CSS
20) Buena Vista            A  American Rivers (ARC)

21) Emory                  C7  UAA
22) Randolph-Macon          C8  ODAC
23) Millsaps                C9  SAA
24) UW-Oshkosh              C10 WIAC
25) Mount Union            C11 OAC
26) Claremont-M-S          C12 SCIAC
27) Concordia TX            C13 SCAC
28) Rutgers-Camden          A  NJAC
29) Maryville TN            C14 CSS
30) Wash U StL              C15 UAA

31) Keystone                A  UEC
32) Baldwin-Wallace        A  OAC
33) Pomona-Pitzer          C16 SCIAC
34) Ohio Northern          C17 OAC
35) U Chicago              C18 UAA
36) PSU-Harrisburg          C19 UEC
37) Ramapo                  C20 NJAC
38) TCNJ                    C21 NJAC
39) ETBU                    A  ASC
40) Rhodes                  A  SAA

41) McMurry                C22 SCAC
42) Oswego    The last C)  C23 SUNYAC

45) Middlebury              A  NESCAC
47) Catholic                A  Landmark
48) Messiah                A  MAC Commonwealth
57) PSU-Behrend            A  AMC
60) Arcadia                A  MAC Freedom
63) Rensselaer (RPI)        A  LL
64) Grove City              A  Pres AC
69) JWU Providence          A  Great Northeast (GNAC)

72) Methodist              A  USAC
74) Adrian                  A  MIAA 
78) Whitworth              A  NWC
80) Beloit                  A  MWC
81) Bethany Lutheran        A  UMAC
84) Manchester              A  HCAC
88) MSOE                    A  NACC
93) Huntingdon              A  CSS
100) Bridgewater St        A  MASCAC
107) Keene St              A  Little East (LEC)

117) North Central          A  CCIW
126) Farmingdale ST        A  Skyline
131) Marymount VA          A  Atlantic East (AEC)
174) Husson                A  North Atlantic (NAC)


#33
Quote from: Pat Coleman on May 20, 2025, 01:48:28 PM
Quote from: DagarmanSpartan on May 20, 2025, 10:10:01 AMWhen exactly is this "cliff" supposed to hit?

The cliff started after the 2008 recession, so 2008+17 = 2025 as the peak.

Hope that helps.
Obstetrically speaking Mr Coleman, you are absolutely correct!
#34
National topics / Re: 2025 Playoffs
May 20, 2025, 11:41:01 AM
#19; #80; Rhodes A* #40 SAA

Rhodes had won 2 games in the SAA tourney and had beaten both Millsaps and Centre. Thus, they won a "single elimination" tourney. I honestly believe that 2 losses in a double elimination tourney would have dropped them below Redlands at #43. Millsaps at #23 and Centre at #13 could have sustained another loss and still earned a Pool C bid.
#35
National topics / Re: 2025 Playoffs
May 20, 2025, 01:22:32 AM
Regional winners tomorrow
#36
National topics / Re: 2025 Playoffs
May 20, 2025, 01:20:54 AM
Here is the team that went 3-2, W, L, W, W, L. The legend is NPI ranking of the opponent in the opening win and for loss #1, then Win #2, win #3 and then loss #2; Team; Pool bid; Team NPI Ranking; Conference


#23, #9, #93, #9, #9      ETBU       A  #29, ASC

Here is the team that went 3-2, L, W, W, W, L. The legend is NPI ranking of the opponent in the opening loss and then wins #1, #2,  #3 , then loss #2; Team; Pool bid; Team NPI Ranking; Conference

#24, #80, #14, #24, #24  Chicago    C #35  UAA
#37
National topics / Re: 2025 Playoffs
May 20, 2025, 01:14:06 AM
Here are the 6 teams that went 2-2, W, L, W, L. The legend is NPI ranking of the opponent in the opening win and for loss #1, then win #2, then loss #2; Team; Pool bid; Team NPI Ranking; Conference

#42, #4, #42, #4      Concordia Texas    C  #27 SCAC
#29, #5, #29, #5      Emory              C  #21 UAA
#25, #12, #25, #12    Catholic          A  #47 LAND
#57, #2, #57, #2      Keystone          A  #13 UEC
#37, #7, #37, #7      Baldwin Wallace    A  #32 OAC
#11, #48, #22, #48    Methodist          A  #72 USAC

Here is the 1 team that went 2-2, W, W, L, L. The legend is NPI ranking of the opponent in the opening win, and win #2, for loss #1, then loss #2; Team; Pool bid; Team NPI Ranking; Conference

#81, #26, #26, #26    UW-Lacrosse      C #16  WIAC

Here are the 7 teams that went 2-2, L, W, W, L. The legend is NPI ranking of the opponent in the opening loss win and for win #1, win #2 then loss #2; Team; Pool bid; Team NPI Ranking; Conference

#3, #34, #30, #3      Adrian          A #74    MIAA
#41, #78, #6, #41    Pomona-Pitzer  C #33    SCIAC
#60, #117, #60, #13  Centre          C #17    SAA
#28, #126, #28, #1    RPI            A #63    LL
#36, #107, #36, #10  TCNJ            C #38    NJAC
#45, #174, #45, #8    Cortland        A #18    SUNYAC
#15, #40, #15, #19    Belhaven        A #88    NACC

#38
National topics / Re: 2025 Playoffs
May 20, 2025, 12:29:23 AM
Here are the 8 teams that went 1-2, L, W, L. The legend is NPI ranking of the opponent in the opening win and for loss #1, then loss #2; Team; Pool bid; Team NPI Ranking; Conference

#27, #100, #27  Oswego          C #42 SUNYAC
#26, #81,  #26  Buena Vista      A #20 ARC
#21, #131, #21  Maryville        C #29 CSS
#47, #64,  #47  Mount Union      C #25 OAC
#31, #84  #31    PSU-Behrend      A #57 AMC
#32, #69,  #32  Ramapo          C #37 NJAC
#48, #11, #72    Randy Mac        C #22 ODAC
#9,  #23, #39    Huntingdon      A #93 CSS
#39
National topics / Re: 2025 Playoffs
May 20, 2025, 12:10:02 AM
Here are the 8 teams that went 1-2, W, L, L. The legend is NPI ranking of the opponent in the opening win and for loss #1, then loss #2; Team; Pool bid; Team NPI Ranking; Conference

#80, #28, #35  Gustavus Adolphus  A #14 MIAC
#34, #3, #74   WashU StL          C #30 UAA
#18, #8, #18   Middlebury         A #45 NESCAC
#38, #8, #38   PSU-Harrisburg     C #36 UEC
#88, #19, #88  Webster            A #15 SLIAC
#63, #1, #63   Rutgers Camden     A #28 NJAC
#17, #13, #17  Arcadia            A #60 MACF
#78, #41, #33  La Verne           A #6  SCIAC
#40
National topics / Re: 2025 Playoffs
May 19, 2025, 10:45:03 PM
Here are the 16 teams that went 0-2. The legend is NPI ranking for loss #1, then loss #2; Team; Pool bid; Team NPI Ranking; Conference

#4; #42;  Bridgewater St A #100 MASCAC
#3; #20;  Bethany Lutheran A #81 UMAC
#5; #29;  Marymount  A #131  AEC
#8; #25;  Grove City A #64 Pres AC
#24; #35; Beloit A #80 MWC
#30; #74; Ohio Northern C #34 OAC
#12; #18; Husson A #174 NAC
#10; #38; Keene St A #107 LEC
#2; #57;  Manchester A #107 HCAC
#19; #80; Rhodes A* #40 SAA
#7; #37;  JWU Providence A #69 GNAC
#72; #5; Brockport A #11 Empire 8
#1; #63;  Farmington St A #126 Skyline
#60; #17; North Central A #117 CCIW
#39; #93; Millsaps C #23 SAA
#6; #33;  Whitworth A #78 NWC

A* Rhodes won the Pool A bid due to Rain outs which canceled the completion of the SAA tourney
Emboldened NPI rankings are lower than the team's NPI, a nominal upset.
#41
National topics / Re: 2025 Playoffs
May 18, 2025, 07:10:27 PM
Top of the 8th
Trinity gets 2 HRs of ETBU pitcher Carson Speegle in 0.2 IP.
TU goes up 4-3.

All 7 runs in the game scored on HRs.
Going to the bottom of the 8th.
#42
National topics / Re: 2025 Playoffs
May 18, 2025, 06:35:52 PM
ETBU's Luke Bumpus clears the left field screen. ETBU 3-1, no out, bottom of the 6th.
#43
National topics / Re: 2025 Playoffs
May 18, 2025, 06:22:12 PM
At Game 7, ETBU's Ben Lee hit a HR OVER the 60' screen that protects the scoreboard in left field.

ETBU 2 Trinity TX 1. ETBU batting in the bottom of 5th.

Two great games...
#44
National topics / Re: 2025 Playoffs
May 18, 2025, 02:42:55 AM
ETBU -Huntingdon was back and forth. ETBU ties in the bottom of the 8th on an Hunter Rumachik 2-run HR. HC goes up 8-7 in the 9th and then Rumachik delivers another 2-run HR with 2 outs to win it in the bottom of the 9th.
#45
National topics / Re: 2025 Playoffs
May 16, 2025, 11:59:22 PM
Quote from: cubs on May 16, 2025, 10:47:47 PM
Quote from: Bmo on May 16, 2025, 07:38:56 PMGood for McMurry, but not the best look for the tournament as a whole. There shouldn't be 15s and 30s thrown up in a regional, especially with at-large teams on the receiving end.
I'd take it a step further and say especially in the first game of a Regional. I've seen some lopsided scores later in Regionals, but those are typically in elimination games when teams are out of pitching.
Oh I agree. I believe we see that especially in the teams whose NPI's were in the 60's and lower, the one-bid conferences. They had a strong #1 pitcher who carried the team thru conference play and the tourney. Sometimes that #1 pulls an upset in the first round of the playoffs or holds the higher seed close. The Bethany Lutheran 4-2 loss to UW-L, the 5-2 loss by Bridgewater St to Endicott and 4-2 loss by Husson to Kean were examples for me.

My concern for McMurry is the bullpen and to a lesser degree, defense. I believe that the box score was incorrect. I thought that McMurry deserved a second error in the last innings, leading to an unearned run.