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Ommadawn:
The "2014-2015 Coaching Carousel" thread can probably be replaced with one that is not time-bound. Here's a move with implications for both SUNYAC and the Liberty League:
http://gocardinalsports.com/news/2018/4/3/chris-taylor-11-named-head-mens-soccer-coach-at-plattsburgh-state.aspx
Mr.Right:
I did not realize this coach is so young. Pretty good resume to start his career though with some solid results to boot. I would imagine Clarkson offered him ZERO support as I am sure they only care about Hockey up there and doubt they offer any significant aid packages for Soccer so considering all that he did a fantastic job to get them in the Top 6 in the LL in his 2nd year. Still putting aside the fact that he is a Plattsburgh alum I really do not see how the situation at Plattsburgh will be any easier to recruit to. Waterbury had a great career and was a solid coach but some of those records were a bit inflated because he usually had 3-4 absolute CUPCAKES on his non-conference schedule every year. I will say his outfit in the mid 2000's were pretty nasty sides but for whatever reason he could not get the same type of players the past 10 years or so and they were never a REAL factor on the National scene after they got to the 2005 NCAA Final Four. They have had some good sides since 2005 but not to level they were at back then. If he was not a Plattsburgh alum would he of taken this job? Let's pretend the 2 jobs are equal money but all the other intangibles are unknowns to us. Would you jump to Plattsburgh? Obviously. it depends what the individual is looking for but I am not so sure I would. I would be looking to keep building on what I just managed to accomplish at Clarkson this year. I cannot remember the last time Clarkson made the LL Tournament. Maybe 1 year under the younger Steinrotter? Not sure and to lazy to look but just something to think about. Will be interesting to follow and certainly more interesting to see who Clarkson hires and what he does with the players that are already there. IIRC they were a pretty young outfit.
Gregory Sager:
--- Quote from: Mr.Right on April 10, 2018, 12:26:09 am ---I did not realize this coach is so young. Pretty good resume to start his career though with some solid results to boot. I would imagine Clarkson offered him ZERO support as I am sure they only care about Hockey up there and doubt they offer any significant aid packages for Soccer so considering all that he did a fantastic job to get them in the Top 6 in the LL in his 2nd year.
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I hope that the part in bold was meant to be sarcastic.
Falconer:
--- Quote from: Gregory Sager on April 10, 2018, 10:42:57 am ---
--- Quote from: Mr.Right on April 10, 2018, 12:26:09 am ---I did not realize this coach is so young. Pretty good resume to start his career though with some solid results to boot. I would imagine Clarkson offered him ZERO support as I am sure they only care about Hockey up there and doubt they offer any significant aid packages for Soccer so considering all that he did a fantastic job to get them in the Top 6 in the LL in his 2nd year.
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I hope that the part in bold was meant to be sarcastic.
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Indeed. Those very words jumped out at me as I read Mr Right's comment, before I even read Mr Sager's comment. With regard to financial aid in a D3 context, favoring athletes in any sport over other athletes in another sport, or over non-athletes, is simply against the rules. I do wonder where Mr Right was going here...
The bar against giving athletic scholarships, per se, is just the tip of the financial iceberg. You can't bump up the $$ for an athlete (in any sport). Or, bump it down for that matter: a student good enough to qualify for a full scholarship on (say) academic merit or some other stated criterion (the student might qualify for a scholarship designated by the donor for left-handed men from NY who major in physical education), or whose demonstrated financial need justifies a full ride, cannot be disqualified from that aid simply b/c he or she plays a sport.
CU_GKnight:
As a Clarkson alum, I have followed these boards the past 4-5 years but never had much to say, so haven't posted until this point. As far as Coach Taylor taking the job at Plattsburgh vs staying at Clarkson I think it wasn't that hard a choice in the end, although I know he gave the decision a lot of thought. He is a Plattsburgh alum and has a lot of family in the Plattsburgh area so it is a homecoming in many regards. He was very well liked and respected at Clarkson at all levels from what I can tell, but the lure of returning to Plattsburgh was too strong. I have interacted with him on several occasions and can say he is one of the classiest individuals I have come across in the game. I do believe he is one of the best young coaches in the field and I disagree that he will have a difficult time recruiting. He is an excellent recruiter and put together solid classes each year with each class being stronger than the last. He was, by far, the best person at selling Clarkson to prospective students that I have seen in my 25-year association with the University. The pool of potential recruits at Plattsburgh is quite large (at least compared with the one for Clarkson) and I think he will be successful in competing with the likes of Oneonta and Cortland for the strongest in-state/state school talent. My guess is that he will restore Plattsburgh to being a national power within the next 5 years. To be honest, I really can’t say enough positive things about him and he will be sorely missed.
As far as Clarkson moving forward, the job is certainly more desirable than it was four years ago when Chris was hired and they have a very solid squad with a good deal of experience returning. The point about Clarkson being a hockey school is true in some regards, but not in others. The tail end of the Steinrotter era was defined by the hockey only mentality, which is part of what caused him to flee to SLU. The University as a whole and the Athletics Department seem to have much more balance over the past 5-10 years and have increased the support for the D3 sides, although I have no idea what level of aid they offer these days. I’m sure the pay isn’t great, but there is at least is support for the program to a level where they can be competitive and a coach can go out and recruit top talent. The key to being successful at Clarkson, which coach Taylor excelled at (as opposed to the former coach who disregarded it) is the alumni relations. Five years ago there was practically zero support for the program from alumni, but now alumni have contributed almost $30,000 to the soccer program over the past 2 years in their annual one-day fundraising campaigns. I think the opening provides a great opportunity for a strong young coach to come in and make their mark (much as Chris did). There is solid institutional support, strong alumni support, a good returning team, a quality educational institution to sell to recruits and a team that has been on the rise each of the past four years. Hopefully we find another diamond in the rough like we did four years ago.
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