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Re: Conference changes
« Reply #1155 on: February 18, 2021, 03:12:21 pm »
Would Manor College be a possibility, if they get approved for provisional membership?

I don't think Manor is one that is attractive, but in some ways beggars can maybe not be choosers.

I am told that Manor has been interested in being in the CSAC, which I am sure the conference would like as well especially considering location.

However, Manor also doesn't have a lot of experience especially in DIII (as they are entering their provisional year soon). Bringing on a member who has little experience can sometimes be more of a headache or challenge than many conferences want to deal with. Manor would probably better off joining the C2C (CAC/ACAA merger) not because of the competition, but because of the mentoring and guiding members in the C2C can give Manor for a few years before they join another conference. That will basically be the roll of the C2C for a number of members in the near future most likely.

In terms of "ranking" from bottom up for a school like Manor in terms of joining in their area, not counting C2C to make this easier, it likely would go this way:

- NEAC
- CSAC
- AEC or MAC

And I think that if Manor was in the CSAC then the AEC might be more interested in Manor.

But again ... maybe AEC decides they need membership ASAP and just pull the rip cord and invite Manor.

A lot of this is why I thought the better landing place for St. Mary's when departing the CAC was the AEC and NOT the NEAC. I think SMC has the make-up and such that would have allowed a "state school" to enter any of these conferences like AEC or CSAC (maybe even MACs if needed). Certainly a better chance than SAL, CNU, or UMU ever have.

Maybe Gallaudet could be an option, but Eastern is a good idea as well especially since they were part of the initial eight to come up with the idea of the AEC (then backed out, then were in, and then back out, then ...). The football factor would be significant, though, in keeping them where they are.

I think this was Arcadia, wasn't it? But Eastern has a lot of the OLDPAC DNA that the current AEC members have.

Crap - you are right. I've been flipping things in my head too much or late.

I do think Eastern could be an interesting choice, though the football angle would end that thought.

But I did mean Arcadia - who I also believe could be a member in the MAC who may finally decide to do what they apparently intended a few years ago.

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Re: Conference changes
« Reply #1156 on: March 04, 2021, 08:09:33 am »

Not that its official yet or anything, but this article makes it sound pretty darn certain: Becker likely to close this summer.  I suspect this will be the first of many similar articles coming.

https://www.wbjournal.com/article/becker-college-planning-for-potential-closure

If this happens, the NECC will be down to 5 men's programs next year and six for women, with Elms leaving the year after that.  It's becoming pretty close to not really being a conference anymore.  Although, I suspect, with whatever other closures are on the horizon, the NE shuffling will be a little more complex.
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Re: Conference changes
« Reply #1158 on: March 08, 2021, 01:50:32 pm »
So that goes on the list for the fall of 2022.
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Re: Conference changes
« Reply #1159 on: March 08, 2021, 01:59:40 pm »

Not that its official yet or anything, but this article makes it sound pretty darn certain: Becker likely to close this summer.  I suspect this will be the first of many similar articles coming.

https://www.wbjournal.com/article/becker-college-planning-for-potential-closure

If this happens, the NECC will be down to 5 men's programs next year and six for women, with Elms leaving the year after that.  It's becoming pretty close to not really being a conference anymore.  Although, I suspect, with whatever other closures are on the horizon, the NE shuffling will be a little more complex.

It is an interesting strategy to get out ahead of the announcement and say you are thinking about closing while admitted that you have ended all recruitment activities and that you are unlikely to yield students you have admitted and will prompt current students to begin looking for other options. It would have worked for Sweet Briar, but for Becker...

Yeah, they are closing.

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Re: Conference changes
« Reply #1160 on: March 08, 2021, 04:20:29 pm »

Not that its official yet or anything, but this article makes it sound pretty darn certain: Becker likely to close this summer.  I suspect this will be the first of many similar articles coming.

https://www.wbjournal.com/article/becker-college-planning-for-potential-closure

If this happens, the NECC will be down to 5 men's programs next year and six for women, with Elms leaving the year after that.  It's becoming pretty close to not really being a conference anymore.  Although, I suspect, with whatever other closures are on the horizon, the NE shuffling will be a little more complex.

It is an interesting strategy to get out ahead of the announcement and say you are thinking about closing while admitted that you have ended all recruitment activities and that you are unlikely to yield students you have admitted and will prompt current students to begin looking for other options. It would have worked for Sweet Briar, but for Becker...

Yeah, they are closing.

I believe this was driven by Accreditation and the State of Massachusetts.  They didn't want a repeat of some of the past closures. where clear directions were never given and students were caught off-guard.  This message is pretty clear.
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Re: Conference changes
« Reply #1161 on: March 17, 2021, 06:36:57 pm »
The Coast 2 Coast loses another one, at least in certain women's sports (not basketball). RIP Mills College.

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Re: Conference changes
« Reply #1162 on: March 18, 2021, 12:47:00 am »
The February membership committee report is out: https://ncaaorg.s3.amazonaws.com/committees/d3/memb/Feb2021D3Memb_Report.pdf

Asbury and Johnson & Wales (NC) were accepted for exploratory membership. Manor's application for provisional membership was denied.
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Re: Conference changes
« Reply #1163 on: March 18, 2021, 10:15:45 pm »
The February membership committee report is out: https://ncaaorg.s3.amazonaws.com/committees/d3/memb/Feb2021D3Memb_Report.pdf

Asbury and Johnson & Wales (NC) were accepted for exploratory membership. Manor's application for provisional membership was denied.

Is there any sense yet where Asbury or Johnson & Wales (NC) may land conference wise?

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Re: Conference changes
« Reply #1164 on: March 18, 2021, 10:42:50 pm »
The February membership committee report is out: https://ncaaorg.s3.amazonaws.com/committees/d3/memb/Feb2021D3Memb_Report.pdf

Asbury and Johnson & Wales (NC) were accepted for exploratory membership. Manor's application for provisional membership was denied.

Is there any sense yet where Asbury or Johnson & Wales (NC) may land conference wise?

Coast 2 Coast or USA South (or offshoot thereof) I would imagine, right?

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Re: Conference changes
« Reply #1165 on: March 18, 2021, 10:59:08 pm »
Not for Asbury. The likely place for that school to land would be the HCAC, although I think that the SLIAC would do in a pinch.
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Re: Conference changes
« Reply #1166 on: March 19, 2021, 11:35:43 am »
Not for Asbury. The likely place for that school to land would be the HCAC, although I think that the SLIAC would do in a pinch.

Heartland would make sense. Right now, the four KY schools are in four different conferences, and Thomas More was in yet a fifth when they were still D3

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Re: Conference changes
« Reply #1167 on: March 19, 2021, 12:15:48 pm »
Honestly, I'm surprised that it's taken Asbury this long to join D3. It's a much better fit for D3 than it is for NAIA.

Of course, Kentucky and Tennessee have been NAIA-centric since time immemorial, so there's that to consider.
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Re: Conference changes
« Reply #1168 on: March 19, 2021, 11:48:21 pm »
I wonder if Asbury intends to remain in its NAIA conference the way Nebraska Wesleyan did, or is that not allowed anymore.


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Re: Conference changes
« Reply #1169 on: March 21, 2021, 05:50:50 pm »
So can someone post an updated list of conference changes for next year? I don't know if anything changed because of Covid-19, delays etc. I've basically been M.I.A. all season. Thanks.
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