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Re: Conference changes
« Reply #1215 on: May 07, 2021, 10:18:36 am »

It's pretty clear there was a statement made/conversation had where the Board Chair says, "If we're going to do this, it can't just be about money; we have to be sure this is something that aligns with our mission."  That's a conversation on every board, ever.

Ultimately, the way money is used is an issue of mission.  You can't split the two.  The question will be how they use that $9m saved.  If they're really investing that in the larger student body, clearly you can see how its a mission fit.  We're not really privy to the other side of the conversation.

If they're just pocketing that money and lowering the annual budget, that's a different decision.  We just don't know.
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Re: Conference changes
« Reply #1216 on: May 09, 2021, 06:40:52 pm »
We called attention to the same discord between the University's statement that this isn't a financial decision and the study's focus on financial matters.

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Re: Conference changes
« Reply #1217 on: June 18, 2021, 09:25:03 am »
Bump with an update

"Presumptive" Provisional Pipeline for 2021-22
*4th year provisional members (full membership fall 2022): SUNY-Delhi
*3rd year provisional members (full membership fall 2023): Pratt, University of St Thomas (Texas), Mississippi University for Women
2nd year provisional members (full membership fall 2024): Bob Jones, Warren Wilson
1st year provisional members: Asbury
Exploratory: Johnson & Wales (Charlotte)

* Games against Year 3 and 4 provisional members count the same as games against full-members for regional-ranking and tournament selection purposes

Becker is closing, removed from NECC
Wesley athletic programs discontinued in merger with Delaware State, leaves AEC

Conference Changes Starting in 2021-2022
Elms leaves the NECC for the GNAC
Emory & Henry leaves ODAC for Division II (pending final NCAA DII Membership Committee approval)
Iowa Wesleyan leaves SLIAC and NCAA for NAIA
Louisiana College leaves ASC and NCAA for NAIA
Mary Baldwin will add men's program, begin play in the USA South
Southern Virginia leaves the CAC for the USA South
St. Mary's (Md.) leaves the CAC for the NEAC
St. Norbert leaves the MWC for the NACC
St. Thomas involuntarily removed from MIAC, will join Division I (Summit League)
St. Scholastica leaves the UMAC for the MIAC

Conference Changes Starting in 2022-2023
Averett leaves the USAC for the ODAC
Mississippi University for Women (MUW) will join the SLIAC

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Re: Conference changes
« Reply #1218 on: June 18, 2021, 11:19:30 am »
We also have Centenary (NJ) joining the AEC. It was made official yesterday(?) despite reports and such in the last few weeks.
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Re: Conference changes
« Reply #1219 on: June 18, 2021, 12:18:47 pm »
seems like an absolute "had to do it" move for Atlantic East to replace Wesley with literally anyone (that has both men's and women's sports) and keep as many AQs intact as possible.

CSAC has some numbers issues with a few other sports, but those weren't caused by Centenary leaving. I thought this would put them on the Pool B clock in baseball specifically, but it looks like Rosemont is adding baseball and keeping them at 7.

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Re: Conference changes
« Reply #1220 on: June 18, 2021, 07:25:14 pm »
I think we can safely assume now that the reduction to 3 provisional years is effective for those already in the pipeline. The release about MUW indicates they'll be a full D3 member in 2022.
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Re: Conference changes
« Reply #1221 on: June 18, 2021, 08:01:40 pm »
seems like an absolute "had to do it" move for Atlantic East to replace Wesley with literally anyone (that has both men's and women's sports) and keep as many AQs intact as possible.

CSAC has some numbers issues with a few other sports, but those weren't caused by Centenary leaving. I thought this would put them on the Pool B clock in baseball specifically, but it looks like Rosemont is adding baseball and keeping them at 7.

There's been lots of gossip about LBC going to the CSAC. Nothing official, but you'd think, if it were going to happen, this would move things along.
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Re: Conference changes
« Reply #1222 on: June 19, 2021, 06:35:45 pm »
seems like an absolute "had to do it" move for Atlantic East to replace Wesley with literally anyone (that has both men's and women's sports) and keep as many AQs intact as possible.

CSAC has some numbers issues with a few other sports, but those weren't caused by Centenary leaving. I thought this would put them on the Pool B clock in baseball specifically, but it looks like Rosemont is adding baseball and keeping them at 7.

There's been lots of gossip about LBC going to the CSAC. Nothing official, but you'd think, if it were going to happen, this would move things along.

LBC also has a new AD coming in shortly and that might help with a move................given that the prior AD (great guy) ticked more than a few people off a couple of years ago when they were right on the precipice on moving and the opportunity was yanked from LBC as a result. If the new AD is the interim AD (doubtful), he is a big proponent of making a move as well.

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Re: Conference changes
« Reply #1223 on: July 08, 2021, 01:42:13 am »
Bay Path is leaving D3 for the USCAA: https://www.baypath.edu/news/press-releases/details/bay-path-university-joins-united-states-collegiate-athletic-association/

The NECC is now down to 4 members for both genders.
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Re: Conference changes
« Reply #1224 on: July 08, 2021, 02:52:16 pm »
Bay Path is leaving D3 for the USCAA: https://www.baypath.edu/news/press-releases/details/bay-path-university-joins-united-states-collegiate-athletic-association/

The NECC is now down to 4 members for both genders.

Wow and they cut all but 3 sports too. Even axed basketball.

NECC is a dead conference walking.

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Re: Conference changes
« Reply #1225 on: July 30, 2021, 07:54:37 pm »
The June membership committee report is finally out. https://ncaaorg.s3.amazonaws.com/committees/d3/memb/June2021D3Memb_Report.pdf

SUNY Delhi advances to active membership. Bob Jones and Warren Wilson advance to Year 2, St. Thomas (TX) to Year 3. MUW and Pratt must repeat Year 2. (Language in the report makes it clear that Year 4 is gone even for the schools already in the pipeline.)

EDIT: I just read the July report. (https://ncaaorg.s3.amazonaws.com/committees/d3/memb/July2021D3Memb_Report.pdf) Pratt successfully appealed and will advance to Year 3 after all.
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Re: Conference changes
« Reply #1226 on: July 30, 2021, 09:23:20 pm »
Bay Path is leaving D3 for the USCAA: https://www.baypath.edu/news/press-releases/details/bay-path-university-joins-united-states-collegiate-athletic-association/

The NECC is now down to 4 members for both genders.

Wow and they cut all but 3 sports too. Even axed basketball.

NECC is a dead conference walking.

Can the remaining 4 members of the NECC move into the 12-member GNAC? (12. Have I missed a school closure?) I do not see any other likely option.

MASCAC and LEC are state schools.
NAC has geographic challenges.

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Re: Conference changes
« Reply #1227 on: July 30, 2021, 09:26:51 pm »
MUW to the SLIAC? Wow, there is a 7-hour road trip.
But Columbus MS is in the middle of D3-Nowhere.

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Re: Conference changes
« Reply #1228 on: July 31, 2021, 12:06:54 pm »
GNAC is now 14 schools in total, 13 for M/W basketball. (Simmons is a women's-only school, they dropped hoops a couple years back).

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Re: Conference changes
« Reply #1229 on: August 01, 2021, 06:55:57 pm »
Provisional Pipeline for 2021-22
Full membership fall 2021: SUNY-Delhi
*3rd year provisional members (full membership fall 2022): Pratt, University of St Thomas (Texas)
2nd year provisional members (full membership fall 2023): Bob Jones, Mississippi University for Women, Warren Wilson
1st year provisional members: Asbury?
Exploratory: Johnson & Wales (Charlotte)?

* Games against Year 3 provisional members count the same as games against full-members for regional-ranking and tournament selection purposes

Becker is closing, removed from NECC
Wesley athletic programs discontinued in merger with Delaware State, leaves AEC

Conference Changes Starting in 2021-2022
Elms leaves the NECC for the GNAC
Emory & Henry leaves ODAC for Division II (pending final NCAA DII Membership Committee approval)
Iowa Wesleyan leaves SLIAC and NCAA for NAIA
Louisiana College leaves ASC and NCAA for NAIA
Mary Baldwin will add men's program, begin play in the USA South
Southern Virginia leaves the CAC for the USA South
St. Mary's (Md.) leaves the CAC for the NEAC
St. Norbert leaves the MWC for the NACC
St. Thomas involuntarily removed from MIAC, will join Division I (Summit League)
St. Scholastica leaves the UMAC for the MIAC

Conference Changes Starting in 2022-2023
Averett leaves the USAC for the ODAC
Mississippi University for Women (MUW) will join the SLIAC
« Last Edit: August 01, 2021, 07:05:54 pm by gordonmann »