WBB: Heartland Collegiate Athletic Conference

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Baldini

The full Massey list for the HCAC.

Transylvania  54
Bluffton  152
Franklin  168
Hanover  177
Rose-Hulman  248
Defiance  251
Earlham  298
Anderson  311
Manchester  316
Mt. St. Joseph  338


Baldini

Next games on the schedule for the HCAC women will be Saturday.

Manchester @ Transylvania
Hanover @ Defiance
Rose-Hulman @ Bluffton
Anderson @ Mt. St. Joseph
Earlham @ Franklin

Jester1390

I will go with

Trany
Anderson
Going to go with defiance don't know if Hanover has a defensive specialist that can hold their leading scorer to 1 point. Key is stopping freshman off the bench killing them
My heart is with my daughter and I will be at the game but till the girls can show they can put 4 quarters together I will pick Bluffton
Franklin

Enginerd

#273
Transy
Defiance (only because they are at home). I think Defiance is a #4 or #5 seed by the end of the season.
Bluffton
Anderson
Franklin

Jester - Have you seen the NCAA official stats? Worrying.

RHIT is:
#427 out of 450 NCAA Division III teams in "Final Points"
#422 our of 450 NCAA Division III teams in "Scoring Offense"
#408 out of 450 NCAA Division III teams in "Scoring Margin" - which is -20
#387 out of 450 NCAA Division III teams in "Free Throw Percentage" at 57%
#431 out of 450 NCAA Division III teams in "3-Point FG Percentage"
#413 out of 450 NCAA Division III teams in "Turnover Margin"
#413 out of 450 NCAA Division III teams in "Free Throws Made"
and...most tellingly...#404 out of 450 NCAA Division III teams in "Assists"

Hopefully they'll keep their chins up and keep learning and having fun - but I hope they start to put it together soon or they will dig a hole they cannot climb out of - HCAC-Tournament-wise.

Bluffton will be a huge test at their place this weekend.


Baldini

I will go,

Transy
Hanover
Bluffton
Mt. St. Joseph
Franklin

Jester1390

On the other side of the spectrum I would guess there rebounding totals are good block shots.  Not sure on pts per game as they have played top teams but I'm guessing shooting average against them would be complementary to them

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Baldini 5-0
Jester 4-1
FCGG 2-3
Enginerd 2-3

Transy big, Hanover but by single digits, Bluffton, Anderson, Franklin
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Jester1390

      
Massey predictions for this weekend. Not sure what the mean means lol.


                 Rose-Hulman                Bluffton
Most Likely   50                       55
Median           51                        55
Mean          51.13                   54.75
Win Probability   39%                      61%   

                    Manchester                Transylvania  Home team
Most Likely   53                             79
Median           53                             79
Mean        53.00                          79.55
Win Probability   3%                           97%   
   
                     Hanover               Defiance  Home Team
Most Likely   66                      63
Median           66                      64
Mean        66.64                    64.11
Win Probability   58%                    42%   

                   Anderson                 Mt St Joseph Home Team
Most Likely   53                          55
Median           54                          54
Mean         53.81                       54.49
Win Probability   48%                     52%   

   
                      Earlham              Franklin      Home team              
Most Likely   60                      71
Median           60                      72
Mean         60.56                    72.29
Win Probability   18%                 83%


scottiedawg

Mean is probably the average predicted score amongst all the simulations.

Jester1390

Engine  another reason  i dont think we have to panic yet.
  The strength of schedule rating by Massey has them 64th in the country.  That is much stronger then alot of teams in the top 25. Not trying to compare them to top teams but if you are playing top teams your numbers will suffer when your young.  I think the best thing for these girls is to stop listening about how great the class was before them. The certainly were great for Rhit but how they came in as freshman was different then this group. The sisters were very good from the start but they all had upper classman to help take pressure off and navigate the waters.  The light switch is going to go off at some point.  There is way to much athleticism on this team.

Igiehon has had double double already in 3 games this year and doing that in about 18 minutes a game. She will be in high double figures once she takes her time around basket and finishes.   Barlow for a 6'1 girl has some of the nicest touch for a 10 ft shot i have seen for a big. 
Webster has the quickness to get the basket  and score double figures.
Burham and Lewman are the toughest players on the team and both can rebound.  Lewman has scored in double figures and Burham certainly has the skill set also. 
Wilson can shoot from the outside and provide a spark like she did in the definance game.

The senior Woody is doing her part and scoring in double figures.  Lastly some kid name Jester.  If their was a all defensive team i think she would be on it.   She isnt flashy but at the end of the game whoever was her assignment is saying damn that girl is tough.  Jester should have made 10 points last game make your damn free throws. she has a game high 13 against Washington U.  She should score double figures every game with the minutes she is playing.  she should be a 10 5 5 player minimum every game.

Long winded point here is all these girls have the ability to get in double figures  and some have the ability to put 20 up on a hot night. They all can rebound. So when they do get it together they will be hard to stop you wont be able to say just take woody out of the game or another player.  Now if they lose by 30 tomorrow I will have a new hot take lol. Off to the airport to go to Bluffton

Enginerd

Quote from: Jester1390 on December 13, 2019, 09:36:23 AM
Engine  another reason  i dont think we have to panic yet.
  The strength of schedule rating by Massey has them 64th in the country.  That is much stronger then alot of teams in the top 25. Not trying to compare them to top teams but if you are playing top teams your numbers will suffer when your young.  I think the best thing for these girls is to stop listening about how great the class was before them. The certainly were great for Rhit but how they came in as freshman was different then this group. The sisters were very good from the start but they all had upper classman to help take pressure off and navigate the waters.  The light switch is going to go off at some point.  There is way to much athleticism on this team.

Igiehon has had double double already in 3 games this year and doing that in about 18 minutes a game. She will be in high double figures once she takes her time around basket and finishes.   Barlow for a 6'1 girl has some of the nicest touch for a 10 ft shot i have seen for a big. 
Webster has the quickness to get the basket  and score double figures.
Burham and Lewman are the toughest players on the team and both can rebound.  Lewman has scored in double figures and Burham certainly has the skill set also. 
Wilson can shoot from the outside and provide a spark like she did in the definance game.

The senior Woody is doing her part and scoring in double figures.  Lastly some kid name Jester.  If their was a all defensive team i think she would be on it.   She isnt flashy but at the end of the game whoever was her assignment is saying damn that girl is tough.  Jester should have made 10 points last game make your damn free throws. she has a game high 13 against Washington U.  She should score double figures every game with the minutes she is playing.  she should be a 10 5 5 player minimum every game.

Long winded point here is all these girls have the ability to get in double figures  and some have the ability to put 20 up on a hot night. They all can rebound. So when they do get it together they will be hard to stop you wont be able to say just take woody out of the game or another player.  Now if they lose by 30 tomorrow I will have a new hot take lol. Off to the airport to go to Bluffton

Their SOS is 64th RIGHT NOW. It will go down after they start playing the Defiance's, Earlham's, and MSJ's of the world. There's no other way they could open with Berea, WashU, IL. Wesleyan, and Chicago and only be 64th. They were likely in the Top 10 before they played St. Mary in the Woods and Defiance. It will continue to go down until they play Hanover and Transy, will bump up a bit after those games, and then right back down. RHIT had an insane non-conference slate last year with DePauw, WashU, Chicago, Oglethorpe, and Rhodes - 5 NCAA Tournament teams when you include Transy - including wins over #8 (at the time) DePauw, and the eventual #18 Transy - but because Baldwin-Wallace's CONFERENCE is stronger, and it was cheaper for the NCAA to send them East instead of RHIT anywhere, they stayed home.
SOS is a crutch for the NCAA / committee to lean on instead of making tough decisions. Wisconsin Lutheran, which went 27-2 last year, and won it's conference AQ, likely wouldn't have gotten an at-large bid last year if it hadn't, because the committee just couldn't see past their mediocre SOS because of their weak conference. No respect, despite regularly defeating or hanging tough with D-III heavyweights such as DePauw and WashU in the early season year-after-year. What did they do in the NCAA's this past year? Beat Illinois Wesleyan by eight before losing to Division I St. Thomas in the 2nd round.

Baldini

Took in the Transy doubleheader today. The Manchester women shot the ball very well in the first quarter to go toe to toe on the scoreboard, but when their shooting cooled they had no answer for Transylvania size advantage. Transy outscored Manchester 60-6 in the paint and out rebounded them 49-26. 

Jester1390

Another frustrating game. Down 12 get it even then mistake everything one their is momentum. Then down 18 get it back to nine. Bad day for the kid in foul trouble the whole game and for first time got in dog house in 4th quarter.  Again free throws killing.  Also not finishing when we get fouled. Difference in game. Bluffton had 8 and ones to our 2 and they missed both

Baldini

Quote from: Jester1390 on December 14, 2019, 08:29:33 PM
Another frustrating game. Down 12 get it even then mistake everything one their is momentum. Then down 18 get it back to nine. Bad day for the kid in foul trouble the whole game and for first time got in dog house in 4th quarter.  Again free throws killing.  Also not finishing when we get fouled. Difference in game. Bluffton had 8 and ones to our 2 and they missed both

They do look like they are making some strides Jester. With Manchester up next for RHIT, it should be a good matchup for them. Manchester may have some issues with RHIT's length.

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Baldini do you know the lottery numbers too?

Baldini 5-0    10-0
Jester 3-2      7-3
FCGG 4-1       6-4
Enginerd 3-2   5-5

Only 2 conference games left this year
12/18 Manchester @ Rose-Hulman
12/30 Earlham @ Transylvania
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