Any growth in the televising of D3 games? Presumably there are some local telecasts during the regular season - where do they do this?
Usually there are Mount Union games televised on tape delay -- I think out of Cleveland?
There is a smattering of student television. Ithaca is the most prominent, I believe they do all of the home games, and you can see them on the Net. Rowan has had games on its campus TV.
I think the advent of Penn Atlantic's video coverage of Division III basketball games last year is going to filter into the football area. We'll likely have many football games on streaming video to choose from.
If Calvin College would get a football team the Calvin/Hope game would be televised live.
I believe the DePauw/Wabash and Amherst/Williams games receive annual local/regional TV coverage along with numerous nationwide/worldwide hookups to select alumni groups, all broadcast live.
From Wooster's site it appears they will have web videocasts of home games.
Also the Indians have created their own cable network which right now broadcasts only Tribe games and previews. Although it did broadcast one or maybe two hs baseball games played at Jacob's field. That was on tape delay I believe. It would be great if they would delayed broadcast some of the Ohio d3 games that are on local tv, cable, and web. I haven't seen anything that suggests what plans they have for the channel after the baseball season.
QuoteI believe the DePauw/Wabash and Amherst/Williams games receive annual local/regional TV coverage along with numerous nationwide/worldwide hookups to select alumni groups, all broadcast live.
The same holds for Cortland-Ithaca which runs on Time Warner Cable, albeit tape delayed.
Albright had a handful of games broadcast in the Philadelphia region live from their fancy new digs.
This subject hits close to home, since I work in television, having produced sports events since the mid-1980s. Another suggestion for anyone interested in seeing D3 games on the air is to check with the public access channel in your area. If they get enough response with the community, that may be enough for the staff to either roll out the production truck or send someone to shoot from the sidelines. If not, someone can also get certified at the station, and borrow a camera to shoot a game. Obviously, you'll need to gain permission from the SID of the school before moving forward.
The now-defunct (at least I haven't seen anything of it in a few years) Empire Sports Network in New York at one time offered live coverage (with tapes repeated at later dates) of some of Upstate New York's games. I know the crew was at Merrill Field on at least a couple of occasions during Jim Moretti's coaching era...but can't remember which games.
The AU Archives has a film clip of the CBS Saturday Evening News (with a dark-haired Dan Rather) that carried a Heywood Hale Broun feature all about AU's legendary Coach Alex Yunevich, at that time the "dean" of small college coaches in regard to years of service at one institution. It was nicely done.
It used to frustrate me trying to get all of the Upstate scores here in Mayberry. I'd flip from the Buffalo stations to the Rochester during 11 p.m. sportscasts (they didn't usually have anything yet at the 6 p.m. news) only to find Buffalo would mention only UB and Buff State, Rochester would usually list the UR, Fisher, Brockport and Hobart scores. No mention of Alfred unless the Saxons had played one of "their" teams.
D3football.com has changed all that. Now that we have the internet here (not understanding how it works doesn't stop me from using it), I can get ALL the scores within a few hours of all the games' completion! Hot diggity....
Time Warner Cable in Albany, NY has coverage of HS sports as well as local colleges. RPI/Union game was broadcast live last year. Hopefully more than 1 game is on this years schedule.
Hmmmm... Time Warner recently bought out our Alfred TV Cable System, thus ending a rare locally-owned operation that featured "the cable lady" randomly appearing at your door at 11:30 p.m. to personally deliver a hand-scribbled bill for the previous three years of what you'd thought was gratis TV cable service.
Our Time Warner is headquartered in Binghamton, a city devoid of D3 football.
While Binghamton is devoid of football, Morrisville begins play this year. And Morrisville isn't too far from the Parlor City.
Quote from: gordonmann on June 20, 2006, 11:35:04 PM
While Binghamton is devoid of football, Morrisville begins play this year. And Morrisville isn't too far from the Parlor City.
Having graduated from Morrisville College with an AAS in journalism a "few" years ago, I am tickled the Mustangs have emerged to D3 football. Ironically, while at Mooville, as Chimes sports editor, I suggested the college revive its football program...and as an AU fan I'm wondering when Alfred State makes the jump from NJCAA to NCAA. A president ago, A-State announced it would join the NCAA D3 ranks in 2005. Now that A-State's current president is leaving the end of this month, it will be interesting to see what happens.
As for proximity to Binghamton, Morrisville is much closer to the Syracuse and Utica markets.
AUPepBand:
What are the Athletic programs at Alfred State like? How do they compare to Morrisville?
Fair point on the Binghamton-Syracuse-Utica point. I lived in Binghamton for 4 years so I lean on that as my Upstate frame of reference.
And karma to you for the spiffy nickname which I will use frequently. Having spent time in Chenango County, Mooville State is an appropriate nickname. :)
Thanks for the karma!
As for Alfred State, it's comparable to Mooville... both started as ag schools and continue ag programs, joined SUNY in 1948 as ag and tech institutes, then ag and tech colleges along with Delhi, Canton, Farmingdale, Cobleskill. All junior colleges, SUNY looked at them as a liability and rather than face termination, they are re-inventing themselves by offering baccalaureate programs.
In athletics, A-State and Mooville met twice on the gridiron in 2005 and actually split! The Pioneers finished 5-5 and had six of their football players move on "to a higher level":
Matt Hewitt to University of Arkansas
Aric Pietsch and Joe Meyer to Georgetown (KY) College
Lennox Norville to Delaware State
Ashley Pierre and El-Amin to Rhode Island
As I said earlier, A-State was to make the jump into NCAA D3 in 2005. Thinking that got delayed by talks of merger with Alfred University, then Uma Gupta came in as president....not really sure where they're still on track for NCAA. But that could all change once a new president arrives. Gupta's out at the end of this month.
As for "Mooville," that was what we called our dear alma mater while students there. In fact, "MOOVILLE" was painted on a wall between the STUAC and the Power Tower (Administration Bldg.).
Quote from: gordonmann on June 21, 2006, 11:45:18 PM
AUPepBand:
What are the Athletic programs at Alfred State like?
Seeing as I went to A-state and then transferred to SJF I might as well chime in. The program as a whole is pretty good, lots of regional championships in track (one national championship in track-I was part of that team) and cross country. The football program as a whole is finially begining to be consistant since Mick Caba took over my sophmore year there. He's bringing in a lot of out of state kids like Morrisville did that make a difference. I dont think Morrisville will be able to bring the type of athletes in that they used too. There is no longer the chance at going to a higher level so I doubt they'll be getting the kids from florida any more.
A-state has had a couple of kids get invites to training camps in the NFL, the most recent being Lyonel Anderson a TE that has been singed by Cincy and GB.
Also COURAGE BOWL II (SJF vs UofR) will be broadcast live by FOX Rochester, with Pre-game, Half-time and Post-game commentaries by WROC TV-8 Sports Anchor, John Kucko and Play-by-Play with WROC TV-8's Thad Brown. In addition, COURAGE BOWL II will be heard on WYSL News 1040AM.
Add Cobleskil and Dehli and you can have the UBC...
The Upstate Hillbilly Conference.
Quote from: theoriginalupstate on June 27, 2006, 04:03:53 PM
Seeing as I went to A-state and then transferred to SJF I might as well chime in. The program as a whole is pretty good, lots of regional championships in track (one national championship in track-I was part of that team) and cross country.
Track and cross country coach at A-State is Gary Moore, a classmate of mine at Alfred-Almond Central School....He was the third man on our 2-mile relay team (I was lead-off) that in 1974 set the school record at 8:40.5....the other teammates were my cousin and my neighbor, John Tuttle ('84 Olympic Marathoner). Gary runs a great program....kids like him, he stresses academics plus he just never quit running!
Quote from: jonny utah on June 27, 2006, 04:48:54 PM
Add Cobleskil and Dehli and you can have the UBC...
The Upstate Hillbilly Conference.
Uh, Jonny, now wouldn't that be the UHC?
Quote from: AUPepBand on June 27, 2006, 10:19:50 PM
Track and cross country coach at A-State is Gary Moore, a classmate of mine at Alfred-Almond Central School....He was the third man on our 2-mile relay team (I was lead-off) that in 1974 set the school record at 8:40.5....the other teammates were my cousin and my neighbor, John Tuttle ('84 Olympic Marathoner). Gary runs a great program....kids like him, he stresses academics plus he just never quit running!
Coach Moore is a great guy, I was on that National Championship team of his. He helped me out a lot while at A-State. He didnt know much about throwing, but he could run forever.
Quote from: AUPepBand on June 27, 2006, 10:21:23 PM
Quote from: jonny utah on June 27, 2006, 04:48:54 PM
Add Cobleskil and Dehli and you can have the UBC...
The Upstate Hillbilly Conference.
Uh, Jonny, now wouldn't that be the UHC?
Its been a long day.......
Quote from: gordonmann on June 21, 2006, 11:45:18 PM
AUPepBand:
What are the Athletic programs at Alfred State like? How do they compare to Morrisville?
Fair point on the Binghamton-Syracuse-Utica point. I lived in Binghamton for 4 years so I lean on that as my Upstate frame of reference.
And karma to you for the spiffy nickname which I will use frequently. Having spent time in Chenango County, Mooville State is an appropriate nickname. :)
Yes it is.
Was it the farmers of Chenango County, who in 1935 presented President Andrew Jackson with a 1400 pound wheel of cheese at the White House? Or was that Oswego County?
(https://www.d3boards.com/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.whitehousehistory.org%2F04%2Fsubs_pph%2Fimages%2Fuploads%2F7%2F1303.jpg&hash=1393bc906d926cf8c9fe777487a037bec87a8f39)
Just reread my post - it was 1835 obviously.
Ive actually heard that story before about the cheese that took an hour to eat up by about 100 people but stunk up the whitehouse for 10 years...........
If the cheese was 1400 pounds, then it took more than 100 people or more than one hour for it to be eaten, or alternatively Washington, D.C. was constipated for a month.
Quote from: frank uible on June 29, 2006, 05:26:13 PM
If the cheese was 1400 pounds, then it took more than 100 people or more than one hour for it to be eaten, or alternatively Washington, D.C. was constipated for a month.
Frank I think you just hit the nail on the head, DC is still FOS.
DC is FOS.....and now we know that it all started with that Central NY 1400 lb. wheel of cheese delivered in 1835!
What effect will the AFCA break with the Hula Bowl have on D3 players getting into that game (and the TV exposure it brings)?
Can PC or anyone else provide some background on the break and what it means as a practical matter? There was mention of the Hula Bowl considering "significant format changes" and of "philosophical differences over the future direction of the game" but what does that mean?
I don't know what the format changes were.
I believe it will mean fewer opportunities for D-III players in postseason senior bowl-type games. Hula Bowl has provided the vast majority of the postseason opportunities for D-III players the past five years or so.
It isn't good news. Perhaps the AFCA can get involved with another bowl game for 2008.
I'm not sure the Hula Bowl has been a great game in terms of marquee names in recent years. Perhaps that's why the bowl owners want to make changes? Not sure, just speculation on my part.
Pat - Any chance that coverage of the playoffs would be expanded? CSTV or local Fox stations perhaps?
Quote from: tmerton on July 06, 2006, 09:18:57 PM
Pat - Any chance that coverage of the playoffs would be expanded? CSTV or local Fox stations perhaps?
Don't expect anything from CSTV. They have gone "Big Time".
I really enjoyed ESPN's "Hidden Video" during halftime of Thursday Night games. In fact, they featured a clip of Alfred's Jesse "Mr. Everything" Raynor running, punting, kicking, breaking up passes, etc. He did everything but exterminate all of those ugly moths hovering around Merrill Field's stadium lights!
Anyone know what ever happened to "Hidden Video"? Don't recall seeing it in a couple of seasons at least.
Real reason I enjoyed "Hidden Video" was that it was a chance for small colleges to get some national TV exposure. :o
Quote from: kirasdad on July 07, 2006, 07:35:41 AM
Quote from: tmerton on July 06, 2006, 09:18:57 PM
Pat - Any chance that coverage of the playoffs would be expanded? CSTV or local Fox stations perhaps?
Don't expect anything from CSTV. They have gone "Big Time".
If Navy game reruns and ultimate frisbee are "big time" then I would think D3 playoffs would be a big step up.
Quote from: AUPepBand on July 12, 2006, 04:26:48 PM
I really enjoyed ESPN's "Hidden Video" during halftime of Thursday Night games. In fact, they featured a clip of Alfred's Jesse "Mr. Everything" Raynor running, punting, kicking, breaking up passes, etc. He did everything but exterminate all of those ugly moths hovering around Merrill Field's stadium lights!
Anyone know what ever happened to "Hidden Video"? Don't recall seeing it in a couple of seasons at least.
Real reason I enjoyed "Hidden Video" was that it was a chance for small colleges to get some national TV exposure. :o
that was great. I was actually on it twice (not because of anything I did) and once was an IC/Alfred game that invovled some sort of funky pass that was caught by the quarterback.
Nice pic, JU!
"I can't live without your love and affection..."
- Gunnar
"I can't face another night on my own!!!"
Or as we used to call him, Tail Gunnar Nelson. ;D
Jonny Utah,
I too, remember the "Hidden Video" segment on that network. However, the 2-3 minute highlights also did some damage to the perception of non-division 1 college football. Too often, the voiceover included everything from disparaging
comments about the quality of play to lampooning the names of the schools themselves. In terms of more TV exposure, that's a negative, not a positive.
I believe all of us on this board who would like to see real D3 football seen on any channel, should thank Pat Coleman and the crew here at d3football.com
It's safe to say there would be no D3 Playoff Preview show without their efforts.
Quote from: Pat Coleman on June 09, 2006, 08:05:35 PM
We'll likely have many football games on streaming video to choose from.
On that topic:
D3Cast is pleased to announce the introduction of two new single-game webcast packages for schools (where D3Cast handles everything) -- see more at http://www.d3cast.com/sports.
These packages are mainly intended for schools in the Northeast, but if you're elsewhere and interested, contact us and we'll see what we can put together for you.
Steve Clay
D3Cast
sbc@d3cast.com
781-631-1445
The 113th Monon Bell game will be back on HDNet this year (it was also on HDNet in '03). Read all about it...
http://www.wabash.edu/news/displaystory.cfm?news_ID=3693
ESPNU Programming Alert!!!
Today at 1:30pm they are replaying the Mount Union vs. Whitewater Game.
Set your DVR, TiVo, VCR, Betamax, or whatver you have to record!!
(Disclaimer, I know that this is a 2005 game, but it is DIII Football on TV in '06) :)
Now if only ESPN U would get real live games from DIII that weren't just the championship game.
I've got an Idea, every saturday they do a game from D-1A, D-1AA, D2, and D-3. One Each...
Quote from: AUPepBand on July 12, 2006, 04:26:48 PMAnyone know what ever happened to "Hidden Video"? Don't recall seeing it in a couple of seasons at least.
Real reason I enjoyed "Hidden Video" was that it was a chance for small colleges to get some national TV exposure. :o
Yeah, plus they were usually pretty nutty clips.
I think we nicknamed a Macon guy ESPY after he got run over by a W&J tailback on hidden video. It was after I played there, and I remember the clip vividly, but not which game necessarily.
But I have noticed that it just went away. I liked it, I know a lot of people did ... my guess is that they found it to be more trouble than it was worth, collecting and cutting all those extra clips when they could just re-run ABC's crystal-clear highlights another 3-4 times.
Part of me thinks 90 seconds to review II, III and NAIA on Game Day would make much more sense than Mark May talking about why Baylor and Rutgers would be a hell of a Gaylord Hotels Music City Bowl ... but maybe the rest of the population has no appetite whatsoever for divisions besides I-A.
Of course, that's what made Hidden Video work, you didn't have to know crap about Ithaca-SJF to enjoy a pass tipping off a guy's knee and into a slanting receiver's hands for a game-changing TD (or whatever it was)
Very soon UW-Oshkosh will be streamming many athletic events (outside of just football and basketball) that has the possiblities of being upgraded to an HD signal (we are going high-tech here).
Also, as I am the TTV Sports Director, I was told by our SID that we would be the first school ever to have a LIVE broadcast of some sports (Wrestling and Track and Field are the big two). Was wondering if that's true or not.
I noticed a lot of people seem to be from the northeast area of the country. It's nice to know our University currently is the leading source on D-III student telecasts in the midwest. Trust me, with the work I've put into it, it better be :)
Here in the Chicago area ESPN provides a H.S. game live weekly (usually midweek). I'm sure the schools change their scheds for TV as these schools are from all over the country....so.....why can't D3 catch some TV time??? Even one game a week on national TV would help provide some exposure for the kids and the schools during the regular season...and it would be more fun to watch than HS ball...and I love HS sports..
I think the perception is that D3 is a dead end for average athletes, while these high school games are usually to showcase teams with one or more bonafide D-1A prospects.
Some days I wish D3 was covered more, some days I think we're better off in our own little corner here with people who actually know what they're talking about and care about D3.
ESPN2 is broadcasting a "College Football's Greatest Coaches" feature Fri night @ 7 EDT before the UTEP-Tulsa game. Rumor is Gagliardi is included.
I know Ithaca streams home games over the internet. Are there any other schools/stations that do stuff like this? Pat, is that a possible future feature of d3football.com... a list of/links to streams across the country that are happening?
We pretty much cover that in the Scoreboard.
We have a new Fox Sports Channel on our cable system and they aired UWW-UWO volleyball. Why not put on some football?
That channel has. The WIAC has several sports on its local Fox Sports regional network and if what you have is Fox College Sports' central region feed, then you should occasionally see some WIAC football.
Pat, thanks for the heads up. It is a new channel for us and I will look for the football.
Any chance the Fox regional will pick up a Wisconsin team in the playoffs?
Comcast in Md. actually listed UWEC-SJU on a Fox regional here on opening weekend, so I signed up and ... got something like the Wake Forest Coaches' Corner.
A couple of years ago, the Albany cable station had RPI-SJU playoff on a webcast, not bad.
Quote from: cwru70 on October 25, 2006, 07:26:41 PM
ESPN2 is broadcasting a "College Football's Greatest Coaches" feature Fri night @ 7 EDT before the UTEP-Tulsa game. Rumor is Gagliardi is included.
If not, I say we burn the place.
(looks around)
What?
Anybody know where a brother can go to see Amherst-Williams, Ithaca-Cortland, R-MC/H-SC or any other rivalry game this weekend? I understand some are available on DirecTV and/or closed circuit alumni parties in bars.
Saturday is a personal special occasion for me, and I might not be able to see any football at all, but I'd love to drop in on an alumni party.
I think my wife is taking me to Baltimore.
Thoughts/recommendations? Are these things invitation-only, or do you just assume no one would care?
I know R-MC/H-SC pretty much centers on going to the game. Maybe Monon Bell or one of these other ones has a way for me to catch it, either on TV or streaming. Or I could order my Monon Bell DVD :)
Speaking of which, any video directors or any superfans that tape the games off cable access ... I am looking for tape of likely playoff teams that I have not seen (I have UWW, Central contacts and a UMHB-HSU DVD), especially their biggest games. E-mail me at Keith@d3football.com if you can point me in the right direction or better.
Quote from: K-Mack on November 07, 2006, 11:17:24 PM
Quote from: cwru70 on October 25, 2006, 07:26:41 PM
ESPN2 is broadcasting a "College Football's Greatest Coaches" feature Fri night @ 7 EDT before the UTEP-Tulsa game. Rumor is Gagliardi is included.
If not, I say we burn the place.
(looks around)
What?
He was #5
K-Mack
word on the street is that Time Warner Albany will be broadcasting the RPI/Union Shoe's game live this weekend. Probably no satellite feed but if you know anyone around those parts you could get a tape of playoff bound Union.
Keith - I didn't see that you got any answers, and maybe it's too late but the Monon Bell game is on UHD on my HD package on DirecTV. The Williams/Amherst game is also on a regional Fox Sports Net Channel (623 on DirecTV)
Thanks.
Frank U. told me how to catch the Amherst-Williams game in my local area. Unfortunately, I was out of town with the wife celebrating my 30th ... somehow not at a football game.
I have yet to watch my UMHB-HSU DVD anyway, but I will probably do it tonight or tomorrow.
Every week Fox Sports North carries a WIAC "Game of the Week"
It's on every Thursday I think, and they replay them a few more times...
Obviously its too late to catch one now...
Any news on TV feeds regarding the four playoff games this week?
By the way, don't you just smile knowingly when your D-IA-obsessed friends start complaining about Michigan/USC/Florida being left out of the BCS?
The Whitewater vs. St. John's game can be seen over the internet through this link.
http://www.pennatlantic.com/main.php?tableName=event&fileName=results&recordId=&module=event-results&orderBy=&searchIt=yes&sport=0&month=0&day=01&year=2006&conferenceId=0&schoolId=76
Sweet, Penn Atlantic.
I'll be needing that as we wrap up at Wesley.
OK Pat,
When are you going to start airing some live games on the web?
Please!!!! ;D
Quote from: kirasdad on November 29, 2006, 07:53:20 AM
OK Pat,
When are you going to start airing some live games on the web?
Please!!!! ;D
Um,
Kirasdad ... sensitive topic. It was supposed to happen this year, at least in part, but to be nice about it, "the deal fell through."
I'll let Pat speak to it more or less if he so chooses, but it is on the D3.com radar.
Just as long as it is in the mix somewhere...
Thanks
Check out the Front Page of D3Football.com:
Semifinals on the air
NCAASports.com will produce and stream live video broadcasts of each of Saturday's national semifinals.
D3football.com's Pat Coleman and Keith McMillan will call the Mount Union/St. John Fisher game from Alliance, Ohio, with kickoff at noon ET. D3football.com's Pat Cummings and Gordon Mann will have the call of the UW-Whitewater/Wesley game from Whitewater, Wis., with kickoff at 1 p.m. ET.
Links will be available on game day, and of course, access to the broadcast is free.
We're looking forward to this.
Awesome Pat. Thank you for what ever you did to make this happen...
Very little. We're just lucky to be the game crew. :)
We got a lot of good feedback.
I hear this week's game might be on TV somewhere too.
4 p.m. kickoff will be sweet!
Is the game being shown After another Division's Championship? If so, there could be runover and us viewers will miss some of it! >:( :o
It's after a Texas Tech/Arkansas game.
Quote from: pg04 on December 12, 2006, 02:10:45 AM
Is the game being shown After another Division's Championship? If so, there could be runover and us viewers will miss some of it! >:( :o
Yes, D2 is on before us, but there is a "floating kickoff" time of 4:08-4:13 ... or so I've been told.
Our game is on the deuce, right? I know D2 is.
"The title will be decided on December 16, noon ET on ESPN2."
No, we got moved to the Ace, and ...
Quote from: Pat Coleman on December 12, 2006, 02:16:42 AM
It's after a Texas Tech/Arkansas game.
Quote from: K-Mack on December 12, 2006, 02:33:17 AM
Quote from: pg04 on December 12, 2006, 02:10:45 AM
Is the game being shown After another Division's Championship? If so, there could be runover and us viewers will miss some of it! >:( :o
Yes, D2 is on before us, but there is a "floating kickoff" time of 4:08-4:13 ... or so I've been told.
Our game is on the deuce, right? I know D2 is.
"The title will be decided on December 16, noon ET on ESPN2."
Quote from: Pat Coleman on December 12, 2006, 03:09:44 AM
No, we got moved to the Ace, and ...Quote from: Pat Coleman on December 12, 2006, 02:16:42 AM
It's after a Texas Tech/Arkansas game.
Well that explains why I couldn't find any reference to the network it was on listed on any of the Stagg-affiliated pages.
Boy, good thing I read the boards this year, or I'd be in the dark about everything.
If anyone has copies of Stagg Bowls on DVD, including yesterday's, or a way to get them on to DVD and send them to me, I would be interested in getting a copy. I will make it worth your while.
Trying to prepare this year made me realize I need to upgrade my VHS copies of several Stagg Bowls. Until I buy a VHS-to-DVD machine, can anyone help out?
Why cant the D3 playoff games be at least regionally televised? I can tell you first hand that the MUC/ Capital, MUC/ Wheaton, and MUC/ St. John Fishers games were worthy of any football enthusiasts time. Thank God for local TV. These games were delayed broadcast locally. And Quite frankly....they were almost as well done as ESPNs Stagg Bowl broadcast. Espn could elevate their game a little IMHO.
Because the money wasn't in it.
The NCAA put money into the Semis. I wish that I could see the bottom line on these games.
Quote from: section13raiderfan on December 19, 2006, 10:04:45 PM
Why cant the D3 playoff games be at least regionally televised? I can tell you first hand that the MUC/ Capital, MUC/ Wheaton, and MUC/ St. John Fishers games were worthy of any football enthusiasts time. Thank God for local TV. These games were delayed broadcast locally. And Quite frankly....they were almost as well done as ESPNs Stagg Bowl broadcast. Espn could elevate their game a little IMHO.
What would be nice is if we could gather those local broadcasts and somehow offer them.
I'm sure the local stations would be geeked to tell the people they sell ads to that they're getting national exposure, however limited.
And for us, we'd get the opportunity to put eyes to these teams, which would help a bunch in terms of evaluating them.
Man, I'm just giving all of my ideas away this week.
K MACK, talk to Image Video in Alliance Ohio about rebroadcast rights. They might very well be interested. The only sticking point might be the broadcasters. One of which is Joe Tait. Also known as the "Broadcast Voice of the Cleveland Cavaliers". Hes a pro. But then again, hes also on the Board of Directors at MUC. Who knows? You might be onto something there K MACK.
Read last week that DePauw and Wabash had signed a three-year deal to have HDNet televise the Monon Bell game. The network did the game this past year as well. Am curious as to any other D III rivalries that might have a national or even regional television arrangement.
Amherst/Williams is on NESN.
Nationwide ratings for NBC for Game 3 of the Stanley Cup (Ottawa's 5-3 win over the Ducks) received a 1.1 rating and 2 share.
This matched the all-time low for primetime prgoramming, sports or otherwise, a rerun of "The West Wing" on July 23, 2005, which also drew a 1.1 rating.
Let's all work this season to boost the Stagg Bowl above 1.1 and 2.
Hockey is back? When did they start playing again? haha. The season is just way to long it is spring time almost summer time. Who wants to be inside? It is baseball season. There are spring practices (NFL). Plus, it is the season of posting on d3sports. D3FOOTBALL IS ALMOST HERE.
Some years NESN broadcasts New England DIII games in addition to Williams/Amherst.
When was the last time that actually happened?
I think Williams at Wesleyan - which means in 2005 or 2003 - perhaps both of those years.
RPI has a new deal to broadcast football games live on the web (although on a pay per view format).
RPI Athletics Partners With B2 Networks (http://www.rpiathletics.com/News/football/2007/5/24/b2networks052407a.asp?path=football)
If I understand correctly, RPI is the first Division III school to hook up with these people. From the looks of the client base, I think this decision is driven more by the D-I hockey program than anything else.
Quote from: Pat Coleman on June 08, 2007, 01:42:30 PM
If I understand correctly, RPI is the first Division III school to hook up with these people. From the looks of the client base, I think this decision is driven more by the D-I hockey program than anything else.
Hockey is definetly the driving force behind RPI's athletics upgrade, can't wait to see how much they charge for football games.
Anyone catch Mt. Union's Nat Championship replay on ESPNU this morning? DII championship game is on now. Great to watch college football in July!
Speaking of CFB, Comcast Local did a piece that is airing now (tonight at 7 p.m. in the Indianapolis area) on GVSU's QB Cullin Finnerty. Followed him through the process of trying to get drafted...workouts with QB "guru" Steve DeBerg, alot of family stuff...was a pretty well interesting story about a really good D II QB who also appears to be a pretty neat kid as well.
I've heard a lot of good things about Finnerty, some from Chuck Martin himself.
These are the things you should tape and put on YouTube so we all can enjoy.
Don't ask though, I'm not sure how to do it either. ;)
QuoteI've heard a lot of good things about Finnerty, some from Chuck Martin himself.
These are the things you should tape and put on YouTube so we all can enjoy.
Don't ask though, I'm not sure how to do it either.
I agree...
Hey, so I wonder if ESPN's new College Football Live show can squeeze in some time to bring back Hidden Video, or some other kind of weekly small-school mention (p.s., I'm available).
I mean, the show isn't called Division I-A Live, so wouldn't you think ... naaaah.
My son is headed to Mount Union from Eastern PA. I was wondering if their games are televised or available on the web for family and friends that can't make the trip.
Quote from: psu80 on August 08, 2007, 01:31:42 PM
My son is headed to Mount Union from Eastern PA. I was wondering if their games are televised or available on the web for family and friends that can't make the trip.
I have been to games where local cable trucks are there, but I think those are tape-delayed replays in the Akron/Cleveland area. And they did have a game streamed live in the playoffs last year.
Your best bet might be to ask this question on the OAC board, they'd definitely know, and probably offer to send you a tape should the games not be available to you.
RE: MTU on TV
No live games. The do have a delayed broadcast on Sat. nights on a local TV station. Although they normally play on ESPN in mid December. ;)
Mount normally televises one or two regular season games and all playoff games. They are tape delay, last year on WIVM out of Canton. Warner cable in the Akron-Canton area caries WIVM. I'm sure you could arrange for some one to tape a game and send it to you.
Mount also has the DVD's of all (5) ;D playoff games after the season at the book store. It has been fun to replay now and again in the off season.
PSU 80,
Good luck to your son, he should have a great college experience at dear old MUC.
DVDs, really? Last time I saw a Mount playoff game it was on VHS, can't complain though. ;)
Can you order from the bookstore online?
(wonders if Pat will pay for this)
Quote from: K-Mack on August 22, 2007, 12:05:28 AM
DVDs, really? Last time I saw a Mount playoff game it was on VHS, can't complain though. ;)
Can you order from the bookstore online?
(wonders if Pat will pay for this)
Didn't find anything online, but I have seen the DVDs in the bookstore itself. You'll have to make a visit in November to pick some up. :)
Quote from: kirasdad on August 22, 2007, 06:49:48 AM
Quote from: K-Mack on August 22, 2007, 12:05:28 AM
DVDs, really? Last time I saw a Mount playoff game it was on VHS, can't complain though. ;)
Can you order from the bookstore online?
(wonders if Pat will pay for this)
Didn't find anything online, but I have seen the DVDs in the bookstore itself. You'll have to make a visit in November to pick some up. :)
I usually don't make it out that way until December ;)
When I start the D3 Exchange Thread, then we can talk.
Wooster @ John Carroll same day tape delay @ 10:30 on SportsTime Ohio
What about the individual schools have podcasts or live feeds on their websites? That way they could target the fans and would work around and budget.
Quote from: K-Mack on July 23, 2007, 01:02:45 AM
Hey, so I wonder if ESPN's new College Football Live show can squeeze in some time to bring back Hidden Video, or some other kind of weekly small-school mention (p.s., I'm available).
I mean, the show isn't called Division I-A Live, so wouldn't you think ... naaaah.
One of the coolest nights of college was walking past the library, seeing our starting RT run out and tell us we were going to be on Hidden Video...
I zoomed back to my place (studying? what? I was a slacker anyway, that hour wasn't gonna help by that point) and we tuned in. Sure enough... Chris Fowler saying a big play in the little town of Bethlehem.
One of safeties picked off a quick out pattern and ran it back 100+ yards in OT. The extra points didn't much matter, the pick sealed the win for us anyway (opp. was going for 2 to win, IIRC). But that was a heck of a way to end a game.
The commentator on ESPN's L'viile/UConn game said that he choses a one loss Oklahoma over undefeated Ohio St, as no. 1 because some of these teams keep scheduling the Baldwin Wallace's and Frostburg St's every year and go undefeated!!!!
The Willamette @ Menlo game was taped for replay tonight on a local bay area cable channel. It is billed as the West Bay Game of the Week.
WDRL TV in Roanoke,VA will broadcast Bridgewater at Washington & Lee on Saturday night at 7 PM on a tape delay basis.
Last night I was in Minneapolis and saw that today 5 DIV III games were being played at the MetroDome starting at 9:00AM. They are not on TV, but a photolink after the game is over. Wish I could have stayed another day.
I wish there was a Friday night game of the week for DIV III football on some TV hookup.
Nice to get the Fox College Sports WIAC game of the week on the Comcast sports cable package here in Md., but the frequency of replays has dropped a bit now that they are picking up more college pux.
Well, you guys have nothing to complain about. In Texas they will televise a JV middle school contest before they'll broadcast a D3 team.
Quote from: Ron Boerger on October 26, 2007, 06:46:16 PM
Well, you guys have nothing to complain about. In Texas they will televise a JV middle school contest before they'll broadcast a D3 team.
lol, kind of true. though internet broadcasts will change that in the future.
When Austin College played Swanee the game was on the net so I just used my Wii web browser to watch it on my TV.
Made a trip to the Scranton- Wilkes Barre area with the wife, her shopping me looking for a football game.
Ventured to an area near a Wegmans and saw a game.. Kings- Wilkes,It was raining just a little to hard for this old man to get out and watch.
Went back to the hotel room and there it was on a tape delay Wilkes-Kings playing on a super muddy field. Wilkes was up 19-0. Next thing I knew the wife was calling me to come pick her up.. Did not see the end.. Whoa is me.
:( :(
Charter cable TV in Wisconsin will be featuring WIAC games on their Video-on-demand service. It's the first time I've heard of this kind of partnership...
http://www.uwsa.edu/wiac/television/CharterOnDemand.html
I assume you saw the footage of the end of the Trinity Millsaps game. You can find it on YouTube and also on at WAPL.com and then go to the Rick and Len link. 14 laterals. It was also on Sports Center.
I never come into the football board, so this may be REALLY OLD news! lol
.... must .... resist ....
Quote from: Old School.... (Tom Doebler) on October 31, 2007, 06:02:22 PM
I assume you saw the footage of the end of the Trinity Millsaps game. You can find it on YouTube and also on at WAPL.com and then go to the Rick and Len link. 14 laterals. It was also on Sports Center.
I never come into the football board, so this may be REALLY OLD news! lol
Also on the front page of this site called D3football.com. :)
Like I said, Pat, never really visit the football arena! lol... ::)
ESPNU for the announcement? Stinks.
Who gets that? Their market penetration is about 20 million homes, I believe.
That's buried very, very deep -- and you have to go to Charlotte for that, Pat?
Yeah, more than a little disappointing considering how much they plugged a certain D3 play last week. Maybe that was their quota for the year. >:(
ESPNU is channel 148 on Dish, which is only available in the Top 250 and "Everything" packages. You may want to note that on the front page (channel #, not details), Pat.
Hopefully they will stream the video somewhere for the 95% of us with no access to the channel.
Thanks for the info, I'll add it.
Quote from: repete on November 06, 2007, 10:56:02 AM
ESPNU for the announcement? Stinks.
Who gets that? Their market penetration is about 20 million homes, I believe.
That's buried very, very deep -- and you have to go to Charlotte for that, Pat?
Yes, but I had to go to Bristol otherwise for ESPNews. This will be something new, anyway. :)
I'll be watching - on DirecTV!
Sweet...selection sunday on a channel nobody gets...awesome. :-\
Yeah, ESPNU in 20 million homes, ESPNews in 50 million. ESPN itself is in 91 million homes, according to ESPN's site.
Really...I didn't think the U was even in that many but I guess DirecTV has more subscribers than I thought. At least it's not on "The Ocho." It's better than a kick in the teeth I suppose... 8)
I just checked and here in Northeast Ohio it's channel 118 on Time Warner Cable. I have NO CLUE what package I actually have (it's some expanded cost me a fortune deal) but at least IT'S THERE! ;)
I guess that is why I will wait to read it on d3. To far out in the boonies for cable and to many trees for any of the non terrestrial stuff.. Phone company keeps saying SOON!!!!
Quote from: skunks_sidekick on November 06, 2007, 02:32:43 PM
I just checked and here in Northeast Ohio it's channel 118 on Time Warner Cable. I have NO CLUE what package I actually have (it's some expanded cost me a fortune deal) but at least IT'S THERE! ;)
Turn on the channel and make sure it's in your package: my suggestion, anyway.
Done and done! The video recorder is set. No bumbling/stumbling PC....give em hell!
smed, who's usually on top of these things, failed to mention that it's 609 on DirecTV. If you get their Sports package (only $10.99/month I think) you get a great number of regional Comcast and Fox Sports Net, Sports Time Ohio, Altitude and many other channels as well.
Quote from: retagent on November 07, 2007, 10:46:24 AM
smed, who's usually on top of these things, failed to mention that it's 609 on DirecTV. If you get their Sports package (only $10.99/month I think) you get a great number of regional Comcast and Fox Sports Net, Sports Time Ohio, Altitude and many other channels as well.
Pat had that (DirecTV channel number) on the front page in the original announcement, which was why I chimed in about the Dish channel. Glad it's easier for you to get on DirecTV than it is on Dish.
Quote from: smedindy on November 06, 2007, 12:44:12 PM
I'll be watching - on DirecTV!
I will also. Why doesn't someone put it on YouTube afterward if no net access can be located? Copyright, schmopyright ... that should work for a few days.
(saw a whole bunch of photos with D3 watermarks on there the other day, don't make me play enforcer)
I guess I better check if I have The U. I have DirecTV but I'm never home when any sports are on. It mostly stays tuned to Sprout and Noggin.
Surprised no one has posted the D III bonanza this Saturday.
On NESN (Channel 623 on DirecTV) Amherst @ Williams Noon Eastern
On HD Net (Channel 79 DirecTV) Monon Bell - Wabash @ DePauw 1pm Eastern
On HD Net (Channel 9422 Dish) Monon Bell - Wabash @ DePauw 1pm Eastern
I think it was talked about a few pages back.
I might have to buy the package for this weekend.
Everyone tape everything they can and we'll either compile, YouTube or trade later.
Some interesting stuff here (http://sports.espn.go.com/espntv/espnMicrosite?showID=FBCG) about ESPN's GameDay plans. Hadn't been able to find that page earlier.
That page links to those pretty good features ESPNU.com did on rivalries earlier this year, including Amherst-Williams (http://sports.espn.go.com/ncaa/story?id=2945751) and Hope-Calvin.
Keith, FYI, we don't get HDNet with the sports package. Gotta have an HD package.
Quote from: Pat Coleman on November 09, 2007, 01:32:32 AM
Keith, FYI, we don't get HDNet with the sports package. Gotta have an HD package.
I believe I meant buy the package in response to the earlier post about you being on the U, but 1) I definitely glazed over the fact that Monon Bell was on an HD channel, so thanks and 2) I ended up not buying it.
They just mentioned Salisbury as "Saulsberry State" in reference Byron Westbrook emulating Brian Westbrook in Redskins' prep for the Eagles game. Old news, but another TV mention in a season full of them.
Very interested in anyone who taped or is buying a DVD from one of yesterday's rivalry games or the ESPN appearance.
Also I'm told on ESPNews later today and ESPN.com, Pat will have a segment discussing the D3 brackets, so look out for that.
You can watch Pat's preview by going to
http://sports.espn.go.com/ncaa/espnu/index
The D3 Playoff preview is one of the videos listed on the right (sorry, no direct link). You do have to sit through a commercial first. :(
Amazing how they just rushed him through those timed slides before he was even done talking about the region!! What the f*ck else are they showing on ESPNU that they couldn't give him time to finish speaking!!!!! Nice work under the gun PC!!
Yeah, Pat must have had all of three minutes to talk thru the brackets. >:(
Good news department: at least the Stagg will be on ESPN itself. The D2 championship's on ESPN2.
That's cool, I get that in HD!
Quote from: downtown48 on November 11, 2007, 05:28:46 PM
Amazing how they just rushed him through those timed slides before he was even done talking about the region!! What the f*ck else are they showing on ESPNU that they couldn't give him time to finish speaking!!!!! Nice work under the gun PC!!
They were definitely in a hurry and I definitely talk long. :)
Thanks for the support, guys. I hope next year maybe D-III can have the coach interview and get 17 minutes of the show instead of D-II. Doesn't look like two 30-minute shows is possible, though, since there isn't a lot of editing and production staff on this project at ESPNU.
And disappointing that more Division III schools didn't step up to the plate and send video. We didn't use Wabash video for reasons that I understand were ESPN-related but we used something from every other school that sent stuff in. (Other than schools who sent video but didn't make the playoffs.) I hope next year more schools send video in -- I'd rather be calling a player's name out on the highlights because that gives D-III more of a share of the show.
I saw a blurb on the Nightly Business Report that they would be doing a show tomorrow (part 2) on small college football. It turns out that featured Seton Hill was almost D3 but is going D2. :'(
Some of the concepts may apply. Here is the sight:
http://www.pbs.org/nbr/site/features/special/college-football_home/
Hey Jonny, maybe we can get an answer here since the rivalries thread has been hijacked and ... well, I'll just leave it at that.
Quote from: Jonny Utah on November 11, 2007, 05:57:28 AM
Quote from: K-Mack on November 07, 2007, 10:31:44 PM
I think I've heard that in a couple rivalries. Not sure those early records were very well kept.
What a crappy year for ESPN to pick Williams (5-2) and Amherst (4-3).
Those two are usually in the title mix alongside Trinity (Conn.)
I guess there was nowhere they wanted to be this week. Interested to hear why D3 suddenly interested them.
Was anyone able to watch it? How was the crowd behind the espn desk?
I've seen the Hardin Simmons - McMurry crosstown game live in Abilene, TX. Don't know if it was on this year as I was at the game.
Is there an "introduction" thread? Couldn't find one if there was....
So, will either semifinal game be on TV the weekend - or perhaps streamed on the internet?
Quote from: tmerton on December 05, 2007, 08:55:12 PM
So, will either semifinal game be on TV the weekend - or perhaps streamed on the internet?
streamed by ncaasports.com in conjunction with d3football.com. details will no doubt be posted on the site later this week.
Actually ... not in conjunction with D3football.com. They backed off on Tuesday afer agreeing last Friday. :-\
Quote from: Pat Coleman on December 06, 2007, 12:28:23 AM
Actually ... not in conjunction with D3football.com. They backed off on Tuesday afer agreeing last Friday. :-\
Pat - Who backed off - NCAA? Will either game be available on TV or online?
The NCAA doesn't want us doing a neutral commentary on the game. They'll be using the local TV broadcasts of each game.
Feel free to load us up and mute the volume on the video. :)
Quote from: Pat Coleman on December 06, 2007, 01:35:07 AM
The NCAA doesn't want us doing a neutral commentary on the game. They'll be using the local TV broadcasts of each game.
Feel free to load us up and mute the volume on the video. :)
That bites!
I wonder if perhaps some local entities sqwaked to the NCAA and that caused the NCAA to back off, just speculating.
That really sucks - sorry to hear that, Pat, and sorry for spreading false information.
That's OK -- you got the information from us after we got it from the NCAA. We all figured it was reliable.
Not surprisingly, the NCAA is a bunch of control freaks.
They(NCAA) are probably thinking up ways to control this site as we speak. :(
Can't let them D3 boys get to big ;) Keep up the good fight Pat
Wow,
That's news to me.
What exactly would be the advantage to using the local broadcasts over a neutral one?
Quote from: K-Mack on December 06, 2007, 05:17:11 PM
Wow,
That's news to me.
What exactly would be the advantage to using the local broadcasts over a neutral one?
Commercial and organizational tie-ins that local televisions stations have with the NCAA to increase local viewership thru the local TV stations.
3000 local TV stations use their lobbyists in Indianapolis to get this local contract for the affiliates in the Whitewater and the greater Alliance TV markets?
Quote from: K-Mack on December 06, 2007, 05:17:11 PM
Wow,
That's news to me.
What exactly would be the advantage to using the local broadcasts over a neutral one?
Sorry -- meant to e-mail you as you were offline when I posted this last night. Guess this isn't the way for the lead analyst to find out. :-\
There may be cable networks that D3 could hook up with some where down the road. I know that there is an up front cost, but they can be waived through future ad revenue. Keep networking and try stay true to your dream. Please try not to look like a Big 10 network, that no one can see.
Quote from: Pat Coleman on December 06, 2007, 06:28:30 PM
Quote from: K-Mack on December 06, 2007, 05:17:11 PM
Wow,
That's news to me.
What exactly would be the advantage to using the local broadcasts over a neutral one?
Sorry -- meant to e-mail you as you were offline when I posted this last night. Guess this isn't the way for the lead analyst to find out. :-\
I know you have a million things on your plate this time of year, I hope it didn't sound like I was overreacting.
I guess I was initially disappointed, but we've been broadcasting playoff games since before they were videocast and we'd want to be there anyway, so it's not like it's suddenly a wasted trip or anything.
Just seems to me like a loss to the viewers. You'd figure the home audience tuning in would be depleted by the people actually at the game, so even the road crew would be a more logical choice, if not a neutral one.
But hey, you can pick whichever audio feed you like. And I won't knock the home broadcasters, we're all there for the same reason --- to give it up for Division III football.
(makes mental note to start own channel, buy D3 rights)
I completely didn't take it that way ...
Quote from: K-Mack on December 06, 2007, 05:17:11 PM
Wow,
That's news to me.
What exactly would be the advantage to using the local broadcasts over a neutral one?
The local broadcasters will butcher fewer name pronunciations. Thats about it too. Actually the locals arent bulletproof.
On their own team, maybe - though I suspect that Pat and Keith do their homework. But I bet they butcher more names for the opponents! ;D
Quote from: section13raiderfan on December 07, 2007, 06:39:54 PM
Quote from: K-Mack on December 06, 2007, 05:17:11 PM
Wow,
That's news to me.
What exactly would be the advantage to using the local broadcasts over a neutral one?
The local broadcasters will butcher fewer name pronunciations. Thats about it too. Actually the locals arent bulletproof.
Not sure that's true. We do our homework and we've seen the opposing team before.
Sorry, missed Ypsi making the same point. :)
The thing about using the audio that goes with the local TV actually makes sense once I gave it thought.
On another note:
Anyone who has copies of the past two Stagg Bowls in any format, please let me know. I would like to watch both games this week (do my homework :) ), prior to the third straight UWW-MUC game.
Although I have a fairly extensive Stagg Bowl library, I do not have either of those games.
E-Mail: Keith@D3football.com