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Title: Press coverage (Articles about D3 players or D3 in general)
Post by: K-Mack on February 12, 2007, 07:02:37 PM
I'm sure we have had threads devoted to this in the past, and I'm not sure if there should be rules on this one (like no local features about some guy on some team with no hook that would be interesting to other D3 readers), but I thought I'd start a new thread anyway.

Byron Westbrook (Salisbury), brother of the Eagles' Brian, trying to get an NFL look. (http://www.philly.com/mld/philly/sports/football/16657304.htm)

There are also a ton of papers which ran something this week on UW-Stout implementing random drug testing.
Title: Re: Press coverage (Articles about D3 players or D3 in general)
Post by: JT on February 13, 2007, 03:41:43 PM
Here we go again:

Nerds vs. DIII Athletics (http://www.nytimes.com/2007/02/13/sports/othersports/13ncaa.html?_r=1&ref=sports&oref=slogin)
Title: Re: Press coverage (Articles about D3 players or D3 in general)
Post by: K-Mack on February 13, 2007, 06:48:35 PM
Quote from: JT on February 13, 2007, 03:41:43 PM
Here we go again:

Nerds vs. DIII Athletics (http://www.nytimes.com/2007/02/13/sports/othersports/13ncaa.html?_r=1&ref=sports&oref=slogin)

Yeah, I came by to post this one. Just to clarify, it's a D4 story ... wanting D3 to split into two subdivisions, from the New York Times, pretty sure it's the same writer that did the admissions thing with Shenandoah and Utica (for which I was admonished for leaving out of year in review) last summer (and NBC picked it up in the fall).

Title is Division III Seeks Harmony Between Field and Classroom, FWIW.

Haven't read it all yet, but feel free to chime in here if you have.
Title: Re: Press coverage (Articles about D3 players or D3 in general)
Post by: JT on February 14, 2007, 09:23:00 AM
Quote from: K-Mack on February 13, 2007, 06:48:35 PM
Quote from: JT on February 13, 2007, 03:41:43 PM
Here we go again:

Nerds vs. DIII Athletics (http://www.nytimes.com/2007/02/13/sports/othersports/13ncaa.html?_r=1&ref=sports&oref=slogin)

Yeah, I came by to post this one. Just to clarify, it's a D4 story ... wanting D3 to split into two subdivisions, from the New York Times, pretty sure it's the same writer that did the admissions thing with Shenandoah and Utica (for which I was admonished for leaving out of year in review) last summer (and NBC picked it up in the fall).

Title is Division III Seeks Harmony Between Field and Classroom, FWIW.

Haven't read it all yet, but feel free to chime in here if you have.

Its all crap.  We can't or don't want to compete, so let's change the rules and inconvenience everyone else.

This is equivalent to every little kid getting a trophy no matter where they finished.  Ties.... no winners or losers.  Yuck!
Title: Re: Press coverage (Articles about D3 players or D3 in general)
Post by: Sakman 1111 on February 14, 2007, 11:46:38 AM
Quote from: JT on February 14, 2007, 09:23:00 AM
Quote from: K-Mack on February 13, 2007, 06:48:35 PM
Quote from: JT on February 13, 2007, 03:41:43 PM
Here we go again:

Nerds vs. DIII Athletics (http://www.nytimes.com/2007/02/13/sports/othersports/13ncaa.html?_r=1&ref=sports&oref=slogin)
JT I couldn't agree with you more....The Nerds have intramurals please leave D3 Athletics alone......

Yeah, I came by to post this one. Just to clarify, it's a D4 story ... wanting D3 to split into two subdivisions, from the New York Times, pretty sure it's the same writer that did the admissions thing with Shenandoah and Utica (for which I was admonished for leaving out of year in review) last summer (and NBC picked it up in the fall).

Title is Division III Seeks Harmony Between Field and Classroom, FWIW.

Haven't read it all yet, but feel free to chime in here if you have.

Its all crap.  We can't or don't want to compete, so let's change the rules and inconvenience everyone else.

This is equivalent to every little kid getting a trophy no matter where they finished.  Ties.... no winners or losers.  Yuck!
Title: Re: Press coverage (Articles about D3 players or D3 in general)
Post by: K-Mack on February 15, 2007, 08:57:27 PM
Gordon Mann, aka Urlacher, passed along this gem. Pretty good piece actually (and no, this is not the New York Times promotional thread, just happening that way so far  ;) )

QuoteThere's a college sports dynasty at Lake Forest (http://www.nytimes.com/2007/02/14/sports/othersports/14handball.html?_r=1&oref=s%3Cbr%20/%3Elogin) and I never even knew it.

- Casey Urlacher
Title: Re: Press coverage (Articles about D3 players or D3 in general)
Post by: K-Mack on February 15, 2007, 09:20:09 PM
Quote from: Sakman 1111 on February 14, 2007, 11:46:38 AM
Quote from: JT on February 14, 2007, 09:23:00 AM
Quote from: K-Mack on February 13, 2007, 06:48:35 PM
Quote from: JT on February 13, 2007, 03:41:43 PM
Here we go again:

Nerds vs. DIII Athletics (http://www.nytimes.com/2007/02/13/sports/othersports/13ncaa.html?_r=1&ref=sports&oref=slogin)
JT I couldn't agree with you more....The Nerds have intramurals please leave D3 Athletics alone......

Yeah, I came by to post this one. Just to clarify, it's a D4 story ... wanting D3 to split into two subdivisions, from the New York Times, pretty sure it's the same writer that did the admissions thing with Shenandoah and Utica (for which I was admonished for leaving out of year in review) last summer (and NBC picked it up in the fall).

Title is Division III Seeks Harmony Between Field and Classroom, FWIW.

Haven't read it all yet, but feel free to chime in here if you have.

Its all crap.  We can't or don't want to compete, so let's change the rules and inconvenience everyone else.

This is equivalent to every little kid getting a trophy no matter where they finished.  Ties.... no winners or losers.  Yuck!

Well,
I don't like any more than you two, but I see it a little differently. I'm not sure creating a Division IV wouldn't bring about as many problems as it creates.

And what exactly is so wrong about the current Division III? It seems to allow flexibility so that conferences can localize their choices about who they play, how much they emphasize athletics, etc.

It really only becomes a problem in postseason competition, but there's not much to suggest that small private colleges aren't just as successful as Division III public state schools. It varies from sport to sport, but even if Division III splits into two, there's going to be diversity within those groupings as well.

I'd be interested to see what the models for realignment are. And I'd hate to see how we have it change, I think teh diversity is a real asset, especially beyond football. The No. 1/No. 2 example in basketball was a really good point.

First thoughts, anyway.
Title: Re: Press coverage (Articles about D3 players or D3 in general)
Post by: K-Mack on February 15, 2007, 09:26:42 PM
Quote from: Sakman 1111 on February 14, 2007, 11:46:38 AM
Quote from: JT on February 14, 2007, 09:23:00 AM
Quote from: K-Mack on February 13, 2007, 06:48:35 PM
Quote from: JT on February 13, 2007, 03:41:43 PM
Here we go again:

Nerds vs. DIII Athletics (http://www.nytimes.com/2007/02/13/sports/othersports/13ncaa.html?_r=1&ref=sports&oref=slogin)
JT I couldn't agree with you more....The Nerds have intramurals please leave D3 Athletics alone......

Yeah, I came by to post this one. Just to clarify, it's a D4 story ... wanting D3 to split into two subdivisions, from the New York Times, pretty sure it's the same writer that did the admissions thing with Shenandoah and Utica (for which I was admonished for leaving out of year in review) last summer (and NBC picked it up in the fall).

Title is Division III Seeks Harmony Between Field and Classroom, FWIW.

Haven't read it all yet, but feel free to chime in here if you have.

Its all crap.  We can't or don't want to compete, so let's change the rules and inconvenience everyone else.

This is equivalent to every little kid getting a trophy no matter where they finished.  Ties.... no winners or losers.  Yuck!
PUT QUOTE HERE

Hey Sakman,
You got your quote in the wrong place ... looks like you're putting words in my mouth. :)
Title: Re: Press coverage (Articles about D3 players or D3 in general)
Post by: JT on February 16, 2007, 09:24:27 AM
Quote from: K-Mack on February 15, 2007, 09:20:09 PM
Quote from: Sakman 1111 on February 14, 2007, 11:46:38 AM
Quote from: JT on February 14, 2007, 09:23:00 AM
Quote from: K-Mack on February 13, 2007, 06:48:35 PM
Quote from: JT on February 13, 2007, 03:41:43 PM
Here we go again:

Nerds vs. DIII Athletics (http://www.nytimes.com/2007/02/13/sports/othersports/13ncaa.html?_r=1&ref=sports&oref=slogin)
JT I couldn't agree with you more....The Nerds have intramurals please leave D3 Athletics alone......

Yeah, I came by to post this one. Just to clarify, it's a D4 story ... wanting D3 to split into two subdivisions, from the New York Times, pretty sure it's the same writer that did the admissions thing with Shenandoah and Utica (for which I was admonished for leaving out of year in review) last summer (and NBC picked it up in the fall).

Title is Division III Seeks Harmony Between Field and Classroom, FWIW.

Haven't read it all yet, but feel free to chime in here if you have.

Its all crap.  We can't or don't want to compete, so let's change the rules and inconvenience everyone else.

This is equivalent to every little kid getting a trophy no matter where they finished.  Ties.... no winners or losers.  Yuck!

Well,
I don't like any more than you two, but I see it a little differently. I'm not sure creating a Division IV wouldn't bring about as many problems as it creates.

And what exactly is so wrong about the current Division III? It seems to allow flexibility so that conferences can localize their choices about who they play, how much they emphasize athletics, etc.

It really only becomes a problem in postseason competition, but there's not much to suggest that small private colleges aren't just as successful as Division III public state schools. It varies from sport to sport, but even if Division III splits into two, there's going to be diversity within those groupings as well.

I'd be interested to see what the models for realignment are. And I'd hate to see how we have it change, I think teh diversity is a real asset, especially beyond football. The No. 1/No. 2 example in basketball was a really good point.

First thoughts, anyway.

I think the DIII system works fine.  The full college experience includes sports for many students, even if they don't play sports.  Why else are DIII schools adding football, because it increases enrollment.... particularly male enrollment.
Title: Re: Press coverage (Articles about D3 players or D3 in general)
Post by: janesvilleflash on February 16, 2007, 11:12:14 AM
I think the idea of some schools going D4 is unappealing because of the name more than anything else. How about leaving d3 and creating a D2A, non\scholarship?
Title: Re: Press coverage (Articles about D3 players or D3 in general)
Post by: HScoach on February 16, 2007, 11:24:04 AM
If I remember right, this was discussed a few years back too.  Not sure if this would still be the case under the new breakdowns, but the old proposal would have put Mount Union into the LESSER division.  Now that would make the little guys out east really happy!
Title: Re: Press coverage (Articles about D3 players or D3 in general)
Post by: NCC_alum62 on February 21, 2007, 03:06:52 PM
I think it would make the little guys out EVERYWHERE...a little happy ;)

But in all seriousness. I would rather someone else grow some balls and get some more talent and beat them on the field than have to move them to a new division.  Thats just cheating :D
Title: Re: Press coverage (Articles about D3 players or D3 in general)
Post by: Pat Coleman on February 21, 2007, 03:12:38 PM
I should have put this here, too:

Michael Allan is trying to end Division III's NFL draft drought and attended a speed camp in preparation for the combine. Follow link to get to the video feature.

http://www.d3football.com
Title: Re: Press coverage (Articles about D3 players or D3 in general)
Post by: Knightstalker on February 27, 2007, 07:16:03 PM
OK it's basketball but I would like to hear more about kids like this:
Dana John  (http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2007/writers/aditi_kinkhabwala/02/22/the.mailman/index.html)

I reread this and did not like how I originally worded it, so I changed it.
Title: Re: Press coverage (Articles about D3 players or D3 in general)
Post by: K-Mack on February 27, 2007, 10:46:26 PM
In keeping with this topic (for those of us talking D4, we should probably head over to General, General Division III issues, Future of Division III, where they've been having this discussion a lot longer than we have) ... I found two things.

One, Trinity (Conn.) was mentioned (I think in USAT) as a squash dynasty, recently beating Princeton for another title and its 165th consecutive match or whatever.

Sorry you gotta Google on your own for more, but I thought that was relevant after the Lake Forest Handball Dynasty feature was posted here.

Also:

Randomly, reading up on the history of Uncle Tom's Cabin, on Wikipedia:

QuoteOrigins
Stowe wrote the novel as a response to the 1850 passage of the second Fugitive Slave Act, which punished those who aided runaway blacks and diminished the rights of fugitives as well as freed blacks. Much of the book was composed in Brunswick, Maine, while Calvin Stowe taught at his alma mater, Bowdoin College.[4]

Hey! You're more than just the alma mater of marathoner Joan Benoit Samuelsson!
Title: Re: Press coverage (Articles about D3 players or D3 in general)
Post by: K-Mack on April 26, 2007, 11:25:35 PM
Saw one the other day (not about Michael Allan, I assure you) and I can't remember what it was. Someone who had some kind of D3 link though. :)

Philly.com on Byron Westbrook's draft chances (http://www.philly.com/philly/sports/20070426_Oh__brother__he_can_play.html):


Says Salisbury has never produced an NFL player, but I guess that's only if you consider that Kyle Acker never appeared in a game. The TE from a few years ago at least made it to training camp, didn't he?

If I think of the other story, I'll post it. I think it was someone from another sport with a D3 football or basketball background.

Oh, the guy the Vikings signed (Todd Lowber) who played BBall at Ramapo.

WR prospect apparently ran a 4.11 40 once. (http://www.northjersey.com/page.php?qstr=eXJpcnk3ZjczN2Y3dnFlZUVFeXkxMjUmZmdiZWw3Zjd2cWVlRUV5eTcxMTkxNTYmeXJpcnk3ZjcxN2Y3dnFlZUVFeXk2)

The link to the good PhillyBurbs article is dead, so that's all I've got.
Title: Re: Press coverage (Articles about D3 players or D3 in general)
Post by: Pat Coleman on April 27, 2007, 02:08:21 PM
That reads just like our notable, but without a photo and the additional info. :)
Title: Re: Press coverage (Articles about D3 players or D3 in general)
Post by: PA_wesleyfan on May 05, 2007, 10:07:43 AM
   Pat

I posted this on the Centennial Board

Maybe it's time for us to honor all those athletes who have given the ultimate with a board to post their names. Regardless of Division or Sport!

A note for those of you who follow Johns Hopkins U and the Naval Academy sports...
  Colby Umbrell who played football for Johns Hopkins in the ealry 2000's was killed in Iraq on Thursday. He was on he was from Doylestown Pa.
  Travis Manion a standout wrestler at the Naval Academy was also killed this week in Iraq and was also from Doylestown Pa.
Both were excellent athletes and particapted in multiple sports in high school. Both also were very involved in helping the children in Iraq.

  http://www.phillyburbs.com/pb-dyn/news/113-05042007-1341164.html

  http://www.phillyburbs.com/pb-dyn/news/113-05042007-1340959.html


There are many more artciles on these two young men at  http://www.phillyburbs.com/
Title: Re: Press coverage (Articles about D3 players or D3 in general)
Post by: tmerton on May 05, 2007, 11:11:21 AM
Quote from: PA_wesleyfan on May 05, 2007, 10:07:43 AM
   Pat

I posted this on the Centennial Board

Maybe it's time for us to honor all those athletes who have given the ultimate with a board to post their names. Regardless of Division or Sport!

A note for those of you who follow Johns Hopkins U and the Naval Academy sports...
  Colby Umbrell who played football for Johns Hopkins in the ealry 2000's was killed in Iraq on Thursday. He was on he was from Doylestown Pa.
  Travis Manion a standout wrestler at the Naval Academy was also killed this week in Iraq and was also from Doylestown Pa.
Both were excellent athletes and particapted in multiple sports in high school. Both also were very involved in helping the children in Iraq.

  http://www.phillyburbs.com/pb-dyn/news/113-05042007-1341164.html

  http://www.phillyburbs.com/pb-dyn/news/113-05042007-1340959.html


There are many more artciles on these two young men at  http://www.phillyburbs.com/

Thanks for posting those articles - and for the fine idea to honor these athletes.
Title: Re: Press coverage (Articles about D3 players or D3 in general)
Post by: Knightstalker on May 06, 2007, 11:42:54 AM
This Memorial Day we should all remember it is not about the parties and sales.  It is to remember those who have paid the ultimate sacrifice for their friends, family and country.  Take some time this year and attend your towns observations.  Take some time out if you are with family and friends to remember these young men and women.  If you see the men and women of the VFW and their Auxilaries giving out poppies, take one and give a small donation if you can, wear it to remember.  Look up the poem "On Flanders Fields" and you will understand the poppy.

Michael Dougherty
Sr. Vice Commander VFW Memorial Post 3776, Secaucus, NJ.
Title: Re: Press coverage (Articles about D3 players or D3 in general)
Post by: K-Mack on May 08, 2007, 01:15:16 AM
Quote from: Pat Coleman on April 27, 2007, 02:08:21 PM
That reads just like our notable, but without a photo and the additional info. :)

Oh, piss off.

Here's another one (http://www.mlive.com/sports/sanews/index.ssf?/base/sports-0/1177943103248250.xml&coll=9), about a week old and possible reading like some notable I haven't seen, but it mentions Josh Brehm's (Alma) post-draft plans. Probably some more updated reporting to be done on that, or better info to be found, but it's the offseason, this is the best I'm doing right now :)
Title: Re: Press coverage (Articles about D3 players or D3 in general)
Post by: pg04 on May 08, 2007, 11:38:16 PM
Quote from: K-Mack on May 08, 2007, 01:15:16 AM
Quote from: Pat Coleman on April 27, 2007, 02:08:21 PM
That reads just like our notable, but without a photo and the additional info. :)

Oh, piss off.

Testy testy!  :)
Title: Re: Press coverage (Articles about D3 players or D3 in general)
Post by: K-Mack on June 12, 2007, 09:28:03 PM
Nine D3 homies on Team USA headed to Japan:

http://www.usafootball.com/press-box/press/index.php?&id=64

Also saw how Williams, Middlebury and Amherst were up in the all-sports Sears Cup (?) rankings yesterday. Wooo NESCAC! :sarcasm:
Title: Re: Press coverage (Articles about D3 players or D3 in general)
Post by: Pat Coleman on June 13, 2007, 11:29:29 AM
On the front page three weeks ago ...
http://www.d3football.com/notables/2007/05/23/D-III+players+make+Team+USA
Title: Re: Press coverage (Articles about D3 players or D3 in general)
Post by: Kira & Jaxon's Dad on June 13, 2007, 11:44:25 AM
K-Mack got the smack down from PC.  LOL!  :D
Title: Re: Press coverage (Articles about D3 players or D3 in general)
Post by: K-Mack on June 14, 2007, 10:07:53 PM
Quote from: kirasdad on June 13, 2007, 11:44:25 AM
K-Mack got the smack down from PC.  LOL!  :D

Meh. I didn't even feel it.

Just because something was on the front page doesn't mean there can't be another article about it that people would like to read (gasp!)

I realize we kick the crap out of the rest of the world with regard to D3 coverage. Knowing that, shouldn't we be a little more secure in our place, and therefore share links to the outside world on this puny little thread that barely no one reads?

Pat has a conniption (sp?) like everytime I link to something that's already been on the site.
Title: Re: Press coverage (Articles about D3 players or D3 in general)
Post by: K-Mack on June 14, 2007, 10:09:56 PM
What I'm saying is that its safe to assume that if it was newsworthy, we had it here on the site.

So this thread is specifically for articles that are not on the site, for the die-hard readers who can't get enough, regardless of whether they are breaking news or not. Next time I create a thread, I'll be sure to specify the intent clearly in the thread name.  ::)
Title: Re: Press coverage (Articles about D3 players or D3 in general)
Post by: Kira & Jaxon's Dad on June 15, 2007, 07:19:10 AM
I was just messing wich ya'!
Title: Re: Press coverage (Articles about D3 players or D3 in general)
Post by: Pat Coleman on June 15, 2007, 04:24:04 PM
Quote from: K-Mack on June 14, 2007, 10:07:53 PM
Quote from: kirasdad on June 13, 2007, 11:44:25 AM
K-Mack got the smack down from PC.  LOL!  :D

Meh. I didn't even feel it.

Just because something was on the front page doesn't mean there can't be another article about it that people would like to read (gasp!)

I realize we kick the crap out of the rest of the world with regard to D3 coverage. Knowing that, shouldn't we be a little more secure in our place, and therefore share links to the outside world on this puny little thread that barely no one reads?

Pat has a conniption (sp?) like everytime I link to something that's already been on the site.

I see.

I guess the definition of "news" didn't stretch to a three-week old press release that we already ran. Not so "new" in this case.

I don't think there is any reason to link off the site to something we already ran three weeks ago, even in this forum. At least if you're going to do so, recognize that we already ran this three weeks ago.
Title: Re: Press coverage (Articles about D3 players or D3 in general)
Post by: K-Mack on June 19, 2007, 12:41:42 AM
The New York Times (http://www.d3football.com) is reporting that Salem has been awarded the Stagg Bowl for 2008-09.
Title: Re: Press coverage (Articles about D3 players or D3 in general)
Post by: Ralph Turner on June 19, 2007, 01:01:38 AM
Quote from: K-Mack on June 19, 2007, 12:41:42 AM
The New York Times (http://www.d3football.com) is reporting that Salem has been awarded the Stagg Bowl for 2008-09.
"All the news that is fit to print."  ;)

D3football.com scooped them again.
Title: Re: Press coverage (Articles about D3 players or D3 in general)
Post by: K-Mack on June 19, 2007, 01:30:31 AM
Quote from: Ralph Turner on June 19, 2007, 01:01:38 AM
Quote from: K-Mack on June 19, 2007, 12:41:42 AM
The New York Times (http://www.d3football.com) is reporting that Salem has been awarded the Stagg Bowl for 2008-09.
"All the news that is fit to print."  ;)

D3football.com scooped them again.

Try to stay with me here, Ralph.
Title: Re: Press coverage (Articles about D3 players or D3 in general)
Post by: Pat Coleman on June 19, 2007, 10:33:26 AM
I always knew hiring Jayson Blair was going to put us over the top.
Title: Re: Press coverage (Articles about D3 players or D3 in general)
Post by: K-Mack on July 15, 2007, 08:08:58 PM
So this is neither football news, nor good news ... it does have a D3 link sadly, and since it's not the first story on the matter, I'm probably way behind the folks in Wisconsin.

That said, I share links to anything D3-related anyway, for those of you who are interested.

DRINKING STAKES HIGH (http://www.madison.com/wsj/mad/top/index.php?ntid=201436)

Title: Re: Press coverage (Articles about D3 players or D3 in general)
Post by: K-Mack on July 16, 2007, 07:11:09 PM
This probably belongs here too:

Quote from: gordonmann on July 16, 2007, 01:49:38 AM
Mmmmm...squash.

http://sports.espn.go.com/ncaa/news/story?id=2932885
Title: Re: Press coverage (Articles about D3 players or D3 in general)
Post by: gordonmann on July 23, 2007, 08:53:36 PM
Fun story on the Williams/Amherst rivalry.

http://sports.espn.go.com/ncaa/news/story?id=2945751

I particularly enjoyed the Rubber Chicken story.
Title: Re: Press coverage (Articles about D3 players or D3 in general)
Post by: K-Mack on July 23, 2007, 11:10:38 PM
Quote from: gordonmann on July 23, 2007, 08:53:36 PM
Fun story on the Williams/Amherst rivalry.

http://sports.espn.go.com/ncaa/news/story?id=2945751

I particularly enjoyed the Rubber Chicken story.

That was a pretty nice piece.
Title: Re: Press coverage (Articles about D3 players or D3 in general)
Post by: gordonmann on July 31, 2007, 10:11:07 PM
And for those who follow Division III hoops, here's a similar piece that was to be expected...

http://sports.espn.go.com/ncaa/news/story?id=2948245
Title: Re: Press coverage (Articles about D3 players or D3 in general)
Post by: K-Mack on July 31, 2007, 11:20:47 PM
Quote from: gordonmann on July 31, 2007, 10:11:07 PM
And for those who follow Division III hoops, here's a similar piece that was to be expected...

http://sports.espn.go.com/ncaa/news/story?id=2948245

Some nice detail, but I'm barely a fourth of the way in and I'm already nitpicking:

QuoteMichigan Intercollegiate Athletic Conference, the nation's oldest collegiate conference. They have met seven times in the MIAA tournament

QuoteHope's Steven Kratz and Calvin's JoshMeckes are just two of hundreds of player's to experience the storied rivalry.
Title: Re: Press coverage (Articles about D3 players or D3 in general)
Post by: K-Mack on August 08, 2007, 11:34:57 PM
These articles may or may not have been posted elsewhere on the site or boards lately, I'm just sharing every link I stumble across as I Google-search for something else, in case it hasn't been posted or someone missed the other place it was discussed:

St. Vincent ready to play football (http://www.pittsburghlive.com/x/tribunereview/s_520694.html), Pittsburgh Live (Bridgewater fans should love the Colbert update)

Three's Company (http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/18059546/site/newsweek/page/0/), Newsweek/MSNBC.com
Liz Hoffman explains the crisis threatening the NCAA's largest division, and what might come next.

(surely this has been on the Division III/IV thread on General Issues)

Will post more as I see them.
Title: Re: Press coverage (Articles about D3 players or D3 in general)
Post by: ADL70 on August 09, 2007, 09:42:42 AM
Ironic that Colbert is also listed as a former Gallaudet HC (also new this year and StV's first game).
Title: Re: Press coverage (Articles about D3 players or D3 in general)
Post by: voice on August 09, 2007, 01:56:16 PM
At WIAC Football Media Day in Madison, Wisconsin on Tuesday, it was announced that the conference will have a "WIAC Game of the Week" televised statewide via Fox Sports Wisconsin. The games are produced by "When We Were Young Productions" headquartered in Madison.  The games are aired on a delayed basis.  According to WIAC Commissioner Gary Karner, this is the only D3 agreement in the nation to telecast a full schedule of regular season games on a state-wide basis.
Title: Re: Press coverage (Articles about D3 players or D3 in general)
Post by: Sakman 1111 on August 09, 2007, 02:03:03 PM
That is awesome Voice. I hope we can pick up the WIAC games in Illinois like we were able to last year on I believe Fox Sports North......
Title: Re: Press coverage (Articles about D3 players or D3 in general)
Post by: PA_wesleyfan on August 10, 2007, 05:19:15 PM
 I know this is a Wesley article but it show's what some these kids go through with injuries.

http://www.newszap.com/articles/2007/08/10/dm/central_delaware/sports/dsnspt01.txt
Title: Re: Press coverage (Articles about D3 players or D3 in general)
Post by: BoBo on August 10, 2007, 07:59:28 PM
A D3 in general story about D3 schools that also have D1 sports

http://sports.espn.go.com/ncaa/news/story?id=2966521 (http://sports.espn.go.com/ncaa/news/story?id=2966521)
Title: Re: Press coverage (Articles about D3 players or D3 in general)
Post by: BoBo on August 13, 2007, 06:05:59 AM
Nice story from the St. Louis Rams website: Stanley Standing Out
http://www.stlouisrams.com/article/62751/ (http://www.stlouisrams.com/article/62751/)
Title: Re: Press coverage (Articles about D3 players or D3 in general)
Post by: gordonmann on August 13, 2007, 01:15:06 PM
Nice photo of Byron Westbrook celebrating after scoring the winning TD in preseason:
http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/photo?slug=getty-76024702jm017_redskins_titans&prov=getty

Title: Re: Press coverage (Articles about D3 players or D3 in general)
Post by: K-Mack on August 14, 2007, 05:13:11 AM
They can't stop writing about St. Vincent:

http://www.ncaasports.com/football/mens/story/10289904
Title: Re: Press coverage (Articles about D3 players or D3 in general)
Post by: repete on August 18, 2007, 09:53:38 PM
Don't know if the link will work or you need to register but there's a long article on Gallaudet in this week's Washington Post magazine ....

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2007/08/15/AR2007081501367.html?sub=AR
Title: Re: Press coverage (Articles about D3 players or D3 in general)
Post by: K-Mack on August 20, 2007, 06:43:17 PM
Quote from: K-Mack on August 14, 2007, 05:13:11 AM
They can't stop writing about St. Vincent:
http://www.ncaasports.com/football/mens/story/10289904

http://www.usatoday.com/sports/college/football/2007-08-20-saint-vincent_N.htm

I had nothing to do with this, it was a surprise to me arriving today. I can't comment, but give the story some love on the board so they'll believe folks really read articles about D3.
Title: Re: Press coverage (Articles about D3 players or D3 in general)
Post by: K-Mack on August 20, 2007, 06:50:10 PM
Pat, you'll note that I'm changing anxious to eager in the print version.
Title: Re: Press coverage (Articles about D3 players or D3 in general)
Post by: Pat Coleman on August 20, 2007, 11:20:06 PM
Sweet on the editing. :)
Title: Re: Press coverage (Articles about D3 players or D3 in general)
Post by: K-Mack on August 23, 2007, 10:04:45 PM
Division III preview - caspule look in USA Today (http://www.usatoday.com/sports/college/football/bonus/2007-08-23-division-iii-capsule_N.htm)
Title: Re: Press coverage (Articles about D3 players or D3 in general)
Post by: BoBo on September 09, 2007, 03:18:29 AM
Story from La Crosse Tribune about Philip Minja, UW-La Crosse freshman DB from Sweden (parents originally from Tanzania).


http://www.lacrossetribune.com/articles/2007/09/09/sports/00lead.txt (http://www.lacrossetribune.com/articles/2007/09/09/sports/00lead.txt)
Title: Re: Press coverage (Articles about D3 players or D3 in general)
Post by: K-Mack on October 24, 2007, 08:04:33 PM
AP feature on Mount Union (http://www.usatoday.com/sports/college/football/2007-10-24-2476851893_x.htm).

A couple nice insights there on the player quotes.
Title: Re: Press coverage (Articles about D3 players or D3 in general)
Post by: old ends on October 26, 2007, 04:58:01 PM
Since moving to Maryland it seems that DIV III in this area get the, oh by the way, clip. I enjoyed reading some the articles listed and if, in my travels, I read any I will post them here for all to enjoy the way I have.
Title: Re: Press coverage (Articles about D3 players or D3 in general)
Post by: AF4 on October 26, 2007, 05:13:23 PM
Rishard Davis will b in SI's faces in the crowd

davis is a math major, a senior, was all south region last yr, and was oe of the D-3 Dl's of the week 2 wks back (against Faulkner University - NAIA)

he plays bandit

here is link   

http://www.huntingdon.edu/news/archive/2007/oct/10_26_07_davis

keep the faith and GO Hawks
Title: Re: Press coverage (Articles about D3 players or D3 in general)
Post by: Hawks88 on October 26, 2007, 11:07:51 PM
That's awesome, AF4. I'll have to be on the lookout for that issue.

You gonna be in LaGrange tomorrow?


Go Hawks!!
Title: Re: Press coverage (Articles about D3 players or D3 in general)
Post by: AF4 on October 27, 2007, 11:07:55 AM
Hawks 88

my man.... i will look for u

Lagrange is overdue for a win... jusy hop it ain't today

b good... Go Hawks

and

keep the faith
Title: Re: Press coverage (Articles about D3 players or D3 in general)
Post by: K-Mack on October 29, 2007, 07:46:11 PM
A couple articles regarding D3 schools, though having nothing to do with football. (Still, you could learn something!)

AP Feature on Colorado College's block schedule (and mentions other D3s that do it) (http://ap.google.com/article/ALeqM5jKcXdiTsS80Q-njUhAXLIfiiGVnAD8SIFA8G0)

Fear at Rowan after on-campus attack (http://www.philly.com/philly/hp/news_update/20071029_Rowan_student_dies_after_beating.html)
Title: Re: Press coverage (Articles about D3 players or D3 in general)
Post by: old ends on October 29, 2007, 08:03:30 PM
I always enjoy reading the sports information that college's write about thier team. Since Muhlenberg is having success so far this year I looked at thier page. Nice stuff, plus it filled me in on how the game against Dickinson went..

www.muhlenberg.edu/sports/fbmain.html

Title: Re: Press coverage (Articles about D3 players or D3 in general)
Post by: sfury on October 30, 2007, 11:55:14 AM
Nice story on the kid who called the Trinity game. And in the New York Times.

http://www.nytimes.com/2007/10/30/sports/ncaafootball/30trinity.html?_r=1&oref=slogin
Title: Re: Press coverage (Articles about D3 players or D3 in general)
Post by: Ron Boerger on October 30, 2007, 12:15:01 PM
Quote from: sfury on October 30, 2007, 11:55:14 AM
Nice story on the kid who called the Trinity game. And in the New York Times.

http://www.nytimes.com/2007/10/30/sports/ncaafootball/30trinity.html?_r=1&oref=slogin

And in a twist of supreme irony, he's from Jackson (which is where Millsaps is located).

http://www.clarionledger.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20071030/SPORTS030105/710300357/1085
Title: Re: Press coverage (Articles about D3 players or D3 in general)
Post by: K-Mack on October 31, 2007, 01:47:09 AM
I have seen that Times link about 1,000 times now, but I realize everyone doesn't read the blog or my e-mail as much as I do.

On the Dose, there was another guy who was keeping track of all the articles written on it, from the SF Chronicle & NYT to San Antonio and Jackson.

------------------------------ ANYWAY ------------------------------------------------

Did anyone watch E-60, the new ESPN newsmagazine show?

One of the features was on a UW-Stout student who's a war vet (lost an arm) and a champion log roller.

Another was on a Widener runner who was one of the Sudanese Lost Boys.

I'm a sucker for actual journalism, even more so when it involves D3 guys.

Although again, no football connection.

Title: Re: Press coverage (Articles about D3 players or D3 in general)
Post by: old ends on November 08, 2007, 09:36:05 PM
Article on the Wilkes - Weidner game plus and audio link.
found it at www.wnep.com  then click on sports then look for the story.
Title: Re: Press coverage (Articles about D3 players or D3 in general)
Post by: K-Mack on November 08, 2007, 10:44:45 PM
D3 female kicker(s):
http://www.usatoday.com/sports/college/football/2007-11-08-female-kicker_N.htm

This guy tomorrow has a blurb on GameDay going to Williams:
http://www.usatoday.com/sports/columnist/hiestand/index.htm
Title: Re: Press coverage (Articles about D3 players or D3 in general)
Post by: Just Bill on November 09, 2007, 09:13:24 AM
Nice article on the Williams-Amherst rivalry:

http://sports.espn.go.com/ncaa/story?id=2945751
Title: Re: Press coverage (Articles about D3 players or D3 in general)
Post by: K-Mack on November 11, 2007, 10:53:23 PM
Quote from: Just Bill on November 09, 2007, 09:13:24 AM
Nice article on the Williams-Amherst rivalry:

http://sports.espn.go.com/ncaa/story?id=2945751

Yeah, that's actually from July, but was great insight if you were new to the rivalry via ESPN over the weekend. I re-read it and got some stuff out of it I'd forgotten.

The U.com did a nice job with the Hope-Calvin basketball story too.
Title: Re: Press coverage (Articles about D3 players or D3 in general)
Post by: old ends on November 27, 2007, 07:44:17 PM
Allentown Paper's reaction to Nov 26th game Muhlenberg vs Wesley
www.mcall.com/sports/college/all-muhlenberg.6154755nov26,0,2103088.story?track=rss

That is a long link.

Title: Re: Press coverage (Articles about D3 players or D3 in general)
Post by: Ron Boerger on December 01, 2007, 01:09:33 AM
Hmm, don't know if this is the best place for it but the voting has opened for the ESPN "Pontiac Game Changing Play of the Year" and the Trinity "Miracle in Mississippi" is the only non-D1 play in the hunt.  Go to http://www.pontiac.com/ncaa to vote ... each week until the winner is selected January 7.  They kick off three teams each week until four finalists are announced on Dec 20. 
Title: Re: Press coverage (Articles about D3 players or D3 in general)
Post by: PA_wesleyfan on December 17, 2007, 08:14:01 PM
 Here is a series of articles written about a young man who lost his life in Iraq. He played at Johns Hopkins. I believe that there will be two more parts written Tues and Wed.
http://www.phillyburbs.com/pb-dyn/section.cfm?id=113&tmpl=local_news
Title: Re: Press coverage (Articles about D3 players or D3 in general)
Post by: Mr. Ypsi on December 17, 2007, 11:13:07 PM
The Trinity over Millsaps final play made Time magazine's Top Ten Sports Moments of 2007 - at #1!  Includes a complete diagram of the play.  It's in the issue dated Dec. 24 (if it is on the website, I couldn't find it).
Title: Re: Press coverage (Articles about D3 players or D3 in general)
Post by: Ron Boerger on December 18, 2007, 10:01:19 AM
The Time top ten story is here (http://www.time.com/time/specials/2007/top10/article/0,30583,1686204_1686305_1690598,00.html).  No diagram tho. 

It's also in a new competition on espn.com for top sports highlight of all time (http://proxy.espn.go.com/chat/special/highlights100?event_id=3283&lpos=spotlight&lid=tab7pos1), having been selected as one of the top 100.   Love the play but don't know that it ranks up there with the shot heard 'round the world, "down goes Frazier," etc ...
Title: Re: Press coverage (Articles about D3 players or D3 in general)
Post by: K-Mack on December 26, 2007, 01:42:41 PM
Quote from: Ron Boerger on December 18, 2007, 10:01:19 AM
The Time top ten story is here (http://www.time.com/time/specials/2007/top10/article/0,30583,1686204_1686305_1690598,00.html).  No diagram tho. 

Lede: "Sure, it was just a Division III college football game."

>:(
Title: Re: Press coverage (Articles about D3 players or D3 in general)
Post by: old ends on January 13, 2008, 07:41:27 PM
Couple of articles in the Albany paper about a few DIV III schools, you must first read past the DIV I story

click on link below:
http://timesunion.com/AspStories/story.asp?storyID=653234&category=SPORTS&newsdate=1/8/2008
Title: Re: Press coverage (Articles about D3 players or D3 in general)
Post by: ADL70 on January 24, 2008, 11:04:22 AM
This CWRU WR isn't afaid to go over the middle since he's already been hit by a truck!

http://www.case.edu/athletics/varsity/news.htm#s1_page2
Title: Re: Press coverage (Articles about D3 players or D3 in general)
Post by: K-Mack on March 29, 2008, 10:59:09 PM
For those of you that don't make the rounds on this board, there was a pretty good story in USA Today on D3baseball in the metrodome and another in Time on Caltech this month. Basketball I think.

I don't have the links handy, just thought I'd mention.

On the front of D3 football.com, there's a Pierre Garcon story BTW :)
Title: Re: Press coverage (Articles about D3 players or D3 in general)
Post by: Mugsy on March 29, 2008, 11:44:43 PM
There was a blog in the Chicago Sun Times covering Wheaton College's Andrew Studebaker as he works to recover from surgery towards the NFL draft.

http://blogs.suntimes.com/bears/2008/03/nfl_finds_studebaker_at_tiny_w.html (http://blogs.suntimes.com/bears/2008/03/nfl_finds_studebaker_at_tiny_w.html)
Title: Re: Press coverage (Articles about D3 players or D3 in general)
Post by: K-Mack on April 06, 2008, 12:21:48 AM
Cincinnati Enquirer update on Bluffton's A.J. Berta (http://news.enquirer.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20080405/SPT01/804050378/1062/SPT02)
Title: Re: Press coverage (Articles about D3 players or D3 in general)
Post by: Pat Coleman on April 11, 2008, 10:55:56 AM
South Florida Sun-Sentinel did a story on area players trying out for the Dolphins today, including Pierre Garcon. Since it came across our news feed I have the power to feature it a little more prominently at my day job, so I did. :)

http://www.verizon.net/newsroom/sports/nfl

(If by the time you read this message the story isn't the NFL lead anymore, go straight to the story by clicking here (http://www.verizon.net/newsroom/portals/newsroom.portal?_nfpb=true&_pageLabel=newsroom_portal_page_nfl_article&_article=924083).)
Title: Re: Press coverage (Articles about D3 players or D3 in general)
Post by: Knightstalker on April 15, 2008, 10:40:06 AM
I thought we had a thread about Turf but could not find it.  Decided to post this here.

Just saw this in todays paper.
TCNJ Closes field  (http://www.nj.com/news/times/index.ssf?/base/news-4/1208232327313590.xml&coll=5&thispage=1)

Testing has found lead in the artificial turf at TCNJ.
Title: Re: Press coverage (Articles about D3 players or D3 in general)
Post by: frank uible on April 15, 2008, 11:20:15 AM
Isn't the whole State of New Jersey full of lead?
Title: Re: Press coverage (Articles about D3 players or D3 in general)
Post by: Knightstalker on April 15, 2008, 11:47:39 AM
Quote from: frank uible on April 15, 2008, 11:20:15 AM
Isn't the whole State of New Jersey full of lead?

No, that would be Chromium.
Title: Re: Press coverage (Articles about D3 players or D3 in general)
Post by: K-Mack on April 27, 2008, 10:58:34 PM
Quote from: frank uible on April 15, 2008, 11:20:15 AMIsn't the whole State of New Jersey full of lead?

Watch it, fella.
Title: Re: Press coverage (Articles about D3 players or D3 in general)
Post by: Ralph Turner on April 28, 2008, 12:16:38 AM
Quote from: K-Mack on April 27, 2008, 10:58:34 PM
Quote from: frank uible on April 15, 2008, 11:20:15 AMIsn't the whole State of New Jersey full of lead?

Watch it, fella.
Yeah, tsk, tsk!

I think it affected his brain.

:D
Title: Re: Press coverage (Articles about D3 players or D3 in general)
Post by: PA_wesleyfan on April 28, 2008, 06:19:12 PM
Quote from: frank uible on April 15, 2008, 11:20:15 AM
Isn't the whole State of New Jersey full of lead?

It's full of something!!!

Going to be interesting to see what schools will be effected by this.
Title: Re: Press coverage (Articles about D3 players or D3 in general)
Post by: K-Mack on April 28, 2008, 08:58:48 PM
Harrisonburg paper on Bridgewater kids' shots at the NFL. (http://www.dailynews-record.com/sports_details.php?AID=16157&CHID=3)

A couple of quotes in there indicating that being a D3 kid makes it harder to get a shot in the NFL, as though there's something out of whack about that, and some updates on where other Bridgewater grads have gone in pro football, if you don't follow the program closely enough to know already, but care. Like me.
Title: Re: Press coverage (Articles about D3 players or D3 in general)
Post by: K-Mack on April 29, 2008, 08:34:26 PM
Looks like this is a pre-draft feature on UWW's AJ Raebel and Carthage's Donovan Moore (http://www.nwherald.com/articles/2008/04/20/sports/sunday_special/doc480b253bcf0d9141219244.txt).

Interesting takes from the two of them on the process of trying to make it out of D3.
Title: Re: Press coverage (Articles about D3 players or D3 in general)
Post by: K-Mack on April 30, 2008, 02:08:40 PM
I don't know if this CSTV video of Studebaker after the injury but long before the draft (http://sports.aol.com/fanhouse/2008/04/30/youtube-helped-new-philadelphia-eagles-linebacker-andy-studebake/) has made the rounds or not, but it was new to me. I picked it up off an Eagles blog.

The point was that the internet helped him get exposure he otherwise might not have received. And if nothing else, his pass rushing highlights are sick (sorry rest of CCIW).
Title: Re: Press coverage (Articles about D3 players or D3 in general)
Post by: frank uible on May 03, 2008, 04:05:14 AM
The likelihoods that a DIII player coming off an ostensibly serious injury will be drafted are the proverbial "slim and none", but Studebaker must have shown NFL scouts something very special (by their brutally high standards) and consequently somehow overcame those extremely negative odds - not that his being drafted means that he necessarily will ever play a snap in the NFL.
Title: Re: Press coverage (Articles about D3 players or D3 in general)
Post by: Mugsy on May 08, 2008, 11:50:20 AM
Interview with former Wheaton DE/current Eagles OLB Andy Studebaker on CBS Channel 2 in Chicago:

http://cbs2chicago.com/video/?id=44301@wbbm.dayport.com (http://cbs2chicago.com/video/?id=44301@wbbm.dayport.com)
Title: Re: Press coverage (Articles about D3 players or D3 in general)
Post by: D306 on May 08, 2008, 08:59:22 PM
Graet Article

Congrats to Andy good luck.

Get the name of that agent thise whom have potential, he and his wife are working for their players.
Title: Re: Press coverage (Articles about D3 players or D3 in general)
Post by: PurpleSuit on May 20, 2008, 03:13:28 PM
Former Gustavus College stand-out and Mr Irrelevant, Ryan Hoag seems to be staying busy these days
http://thesportspoint.blogspot.com/2008/05/2003-nfl-mr-irrelevant-ryan-hoag-is.html
Title: Re: Press coverage (Articles about D3 players or D3 in general)
Post by: gordonmann on May 21, 2008, 12:26:20 PM
That's awesome.  Thanks Purple Suit.

I posted the link on the Daily Dose, too.
Title: Re: Press coverage (Articles about D3 players or D3 in general)
Post by: K-Mack on September 30, 2008, 09:32:20 AM
These are too old for 'What we're reading', plus they're from an open-source network, not real outlets/newspapers:

Josh Vogelbach, the best quarterback you've never heard of (http://www.associatedcontent.com/article/385373/josh_vogelbach_the_best_quarterback.html)

Division III: The Less Glamorous Side of College Football (http://www.associatedcontent.com/article/466647/division_iii_the_less_glamorous_side.html?cat=14)
Title: Re: Press coverage (Articles about D3 players or D3 in general)
Post by: retagent on October 10, 2008, 01:02:16 PM
Can anyone more Tech Savvy than I post the article from this weekend's USA Today previewing the My Union/Capital game?
Title: Re: Press coverage (Articles about D3 players or D3 in general)
Post by: Pat Coleman on October 10, 2008, 03:03:36 PM
It's a sidebar to the main piece on this page.
http://www.usatoday.com/sports/college/football/2008-10-09-weekend-preview_N.htm
Title: Re: Press coverage (Articles about D3 players or D3 in general)
Post by: K-Mack on October 10, 2008, 10:21:43 PM
Since my rant was largely press-related:

Quote from: K-Mack on October 09, 2008, 01:54:58 PM
Quote from: mhb8904 AKA Toby Taff on October 08, 2008, 12:33:31 PM
Quote from: redswarm81 on October 07, 2008, 09:51:05 PM
. . . not the kind of Year-in-Review moment you want to see in the headlines:

7 (Including 5 Salisbury U football players) Arrested in Salisbury Nightclub Brawl (http://www.wboc.com/global/story.asp?s=9131140)

Keith, since this is your board--and given your profession, you might know a good copy editor that they could use down at WBOC-TV 16, the DelMarVa's News Leader?   ;)
I just read the story and then looked at the schools web site.  3 of the 5 started on Defense in the Del Valley game and a 4th had 5 tackles in the game.  That is a serious blow to the defense.

I counted four defensive starters and a fifth who got significant burn. Add that to Chandler being out with injury, and ... well if you have depth, this is the time for it to shine.

Red, not sure you want to know what I think of small-town TV news.

While I'm sure these guys were out of line -- what were they doing at the Monkey Barrel anyway? -- the accounts of what happened are pretty uneven, as they often are when football players get arrested.

1) I doubt these guys were fighting themselves ... how come everyone arrested seems to be friendly with each other? No one from the other side was escalating the situation?

2) Oh, the poor helpless officers were attacked by the mean football players! Give me a break. Police from six departments come swarming in to stop a bar fight, certainly with whatever weapons they need to diffuse the situation at the ready, and they're adding on 'assaulting an officer' charges? I wasn't there, but that charge always seems sketchy to me.

3) The one mug shot/glamour shot is comical.

Kudos to Sherman Wood for taking swift action and sending a message to his team and the community that that stuff doesn't fly. While they might or might not be guilty of everything they are charged with, certain being at a bar during the season is exercising poor judgement, and as a player, even though it's in your nature to kick butt, you have to get the heck out of there if you feel things getting out of hand, because you have much more to lose than the drunken townie who likes to start stuff.

To me, college kids drinking isn't really that abnormal, and people who've been drinking getting in fights isn't either. I'm not saying it's excusable, I mean I managed to avoid getting in trouble in college, but I certainly wasn't above a fistfight, so I don't want to sound holier-than-thou either.

If nothing else it demonstrates that football players have to hold themselves to a higher standard than the general student body, and that's not necessarily an easy thing to do. Maybe this is a blip on the screen on a slow-news day if these are just Salisbury students getting in a tussle at a bar/club on a weekend night ... but once it's a football team -- and this goes for everywhere -- it's a story, and frankly the "team players" are generally presumed guilty.

Having been to Salisbury recently, the town of, it also seems like a place where race could ignite a small incident into a bigger one. Not saying that from any particular experience while there, the campus seems pretty cool, I'm not trying to damage their recruiting or anything ... just saying that it reminds me of another small college town in this part of the country that feels the same way.

Quote from: redswarm81 on October 09, 2008, 05:09:11 PM
Quote from: K-Mack on October 09, 2008, 01:54:58 PM
Quote from: mhb8904 AKA Toby Taff on October 08, 2008, 12:33:31 PM
Quote from: redswarm81 on October 07, 2008, 09:51:05 PM
. . . not the kind of Year-in-Review moment you want to see in the headlines:

7 (Including 5 Salisbury U football players) Arrested in Salisbury Nightclub Brawl (http://www.wboc.com/global/story.asp?s=9131140)

Keith, since this is your board--and given your profession, you might know a good copy editor that they could use down at WBOC-TV 16, the DelMarVa's News Leader?   ;)
I just read the story and then looked at the schools web site.  3 of the 5 started on Defense in the Del Valley game and a 4th had 5 tackles in the game.  That is a serious blow to the defense.

Red, not sure you want to know what I think of small-town TV news.

Hey, who better to save the day, than SuperCopyNerd!*   :D  Wherever redundancies or oxymorons stand in the way of liberty and literacy, . . . look!  By the pasteboard!  It's a bird!  It's a plane! . . .

* See Top 25 Board (http://www.d3boards.com/index.php?topic=5930.msg951833#msg951833)

Quote from: K-Mack on October 09, 2008, 01:54:58 PM
While I'm sure these guys were out of line -- what were they doing at the Monkey Barrel anyway? -- the accounts of what happened are pretty uneven, as they often are when football players get arrested.

1) I doubt these guys were fighting themselves ... how come everyone arrested seems to be friendly with each other? No one from the other side was escalating the situation?

2) Oh, the poor helpless officers were attacked by the mean football players! Give me a break. Police from six departments come swarming in to stop a bar fight, certainly with whatever weapons they need to diffuse the situation at the ready, and they're adding on 'assaulting an officer' charges? I wasn't there, but that charge always seems sketchy to me.

3) The one mug shot/glamour shot is comical.

Kudos to Sherman Wood for taking swift action and sending a message to his team and the community that that stuff doesn't fly. While they might or might not be guilty of everything they are charged with, certain being at a bar during the season is exercising poor judgement, and as a player, even though it's in your nature to kick butt, you have to get the heck out of there if you feel things getting out of hand, because you have much more to lose than the drunken townie who likes to start stuff.

Good points all around.  I did wonder why there were peace officers from 6 different jurisdictions involved, but ultimately, Coach Wood appears to understand what you describe: these guys had multiple opportunities to avoid this scene, and they apparently chose not to take advantage of a single one, making the wrong choice every time.  Sigh.

Quote from: K-Mack on October 09, 2008, 01:54:58 PM
To me, college kids drinking isn't really that abnormal . . .

It's not only normal, it's physics:

Newton's first law of motion states that a body in motion tends to stay in motion.

Newton's fifth law of motion states that a body in college tends to drink beer.

Quote from: K-Mack on October 09, 2008, 01:54:58 PM
Having been to Salisbury recently, the town of, it also seems like a place where race could ignite a small incident into a bigger one. Not saying that from any particular experience while there, the campus seems pretty cool, I'm not trying to damage their recruiting or anything ... just saying that it reminds me of another small college town in this part of the country that feels the same way.

Does it always have to be about race?  Can we at least be happy that one white boy was partying (and getting busted) with the brothers?   ;)

No, it doesn't always have to be about race. Maybe gender though ... wasn't that a white girl (Erin?) who got busted?
Title: Re: Press coverage (Articles about D3 players or D3 in general)
Post by: redswarm81 on October 10, 2008, 11:02:11 PM
Quote from: K-Mack on October 10, 2008, 10:21:43 PM
Since my rant was largely press-related:

Quote from: redswarm81 on October 09, 2008, 05:09:11 PM
Quote from: K-Mack on October 09, 2008, 01:54:58 PM
Quote from: mhb8904 AKA Toby Taff on October 08, 2008, 12:33:31 PM
Quote from: redswarm81 on October 07, 2008, 09:51:05 PM
. . . not the kind of Year-in-Review moment you want to see in the headlines:

7 (Including 5 Salisbury U football players) Arrested in Salisbury Nightclub Brawl (http://www.wboc.com/global/story.asp?s=9131140)

Keith, since this is your board--and given your profession, you might know a good copy editor that they could use down at WBOC-TV 16, the DelMarVa's News Leader?   ;)
I just read the story and then looked at the schools web site.  3 of the 5 started on Defense in the Del Valley game and a 4th had 5 tackles in the game.  That is a serious blow to the defense.

Red, not sure you want to know what I think of small-town TV news.

Hey, who better to save the day, than SuperCopyNerd!*   :D  Wherever redundancies or oxymorons stand in the way of liberty and literacy, . . . look!  By the pasteboard!  It's a bird!  It's a plane! . . .

* See Top 25 Board (http://www.d3boards.com/index.php?topic=5930.msg951833#msg951833)

Quote from: K-Mack on October 09, 2008, 01:54:58 PM
While I'm sure these guys were out of line -- what were they doing at the Monkey Barrel anyway? -- the accounts of what happened are pretty uneven, as they often are when football players get arrested.

1) I doubt these guys were fighting themselves ... how come everyone arrested seems to be friendly with each other? No one from the other side was escalating the situation?

2) Oh, the poor helpless officers were attacked by the mean football players! Give me a break. Police from six departments come swarming in to stop a bar fight, certainly with whatever weapons they need to diffuse the situation at the ready, and they're adding on 'assaulting an officer' charges? I wasn't there, but that charge always seems sketchy to me.

3) The one mug shot/glamour shot is comical.

Kudos to Sherman Wood for taking swift action and sending a message to his team and the community that that stuff doesn't fly. While they might or might not be guilty of everything they are charged with, certain being at a bar during the season is exercising poor judgement, and as a player, even though it's in your nature to kick butt, you have to get the heck out of there if you feel things getting out of hand, because you have much more to lose than the drunken townie who likes to start stuff.

Good points all around.  I did wonder why there were peace officers from 6 different jurisdictions involved, but ultimately, Coach Wood appears to understand what you describe: these guys had multiple opportunities to avoid this scene, and they apparently chose not to take advantage of a single one, making the wrong choice every time.  Sigh.

Quote from: K-Mack on October 09, 2008, 01:54:58 PM
To me, college kids drinking isn't really that abnormal . . .

It's not only normal, it's physics:

Newton's first law of motion states that a body in motion tends to stay in motion.

Newton's fifth law of motion states that a body in college tends to drink beer.

Quote from: K-Mack on October 09, 2008, 01:54:58 PM
Having been to Salisbury recently, the town of, it also seems like a place where race could ignite a small incident into a bigger one. Not saying that from any particular experience while there, the campus seems pretty cool, I'm not trying to damage their recruiting or anything ... just saying that it reminds me of another small college town in this part of the country that feels the same way.

Does it always have to be about race?  Can we at least be happy that one white boy was partying (and getting busted) with the brothers?   ;)

No, it doesn't always have to be about race. Maybe gender though ... wasn't that a white girl (Erin?) who got busted?

Nouns have gender.  People have sex. . . . which, ultimately, is why bar many bar fights get started (as near as I can remember).  :P
Title: Re: Press coverage (Articles about D3 players or D3 in general)
Post by: OshDude on October 14, 2008, 12:39:53 PM
A few things I saw in this week's The Magazine:
• 6 Things You Should Know About: Acting in a Sports Movie (features Rob Brown, Amherst)

And two "All News" briefs:
UDub-Stevens Point gets first official live mascot: McKenzie, an English pointer
Mt. Union RB Nate Kmic scores D3-record 95th career TD
Title: Re: Press coverage (Articles about D3 players or D3 in general)
Post by: tmerton on December 05, 2008, 10:15:52 AM
Nice headline and article on MUC's Kmic and Micheli in today's SF Chronicle (http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2008/12/04/SPO714I6V1.DTL).
Title: Re: Press coverage (Articles about D3 players or D3 in general)
Post by: HScoach on December 05, 2008, 03:34:25 PM
Quote from: redswarm81 on October 10, 2008, 11:02:11 PM
Nouns have gender.  People have sex. . . . which, ultimately, is why bar many bar fights get started (as near as I can remember).  :P

You obviously haven't been married for 20+ years....................
Title: Re: Press coverage (Articles about D3 players or D3 in general)
Post by: K-Mack on December 13, 2008, 01:38:29 AM
    WASHINGTON (AP) — A 6-foot-7 Web site producer for the Washington Capitals dressed as the team's backup goalie for Friday night's game against the Ottawa Senators because of an injury to Jose Theodore.
    Brett Leonhardt, a Division III goalie in college, signed an amateur tryout contract before the game. If he had actually played, he would have tied Ben Bishop of the St. Louis Blues as the tallest goalie ever to see action in an NHL game.
    Theodore suffered a hip flexor injury during the Capitals' morning skate, and Simeon Varlamov was recalled from Hershey, the team's AHL affiliate, to back up starter Brent Johnson.
    But Hershey happened to be on the road in San Antonio, and Varlamov didn't arrive in time for the 7 p.m. faceoff.
    So the Capitals received special dispensation from the league to dress three goaltenders. Leonhardt had a spot on the bench until Varlamov arrived midway through the first period.
    By the end of the second period, Leonhardt was back in a dress shirt and tie and in his usual spot in the press box, preparing for his regular job of holding the camera during postgame interviews following the Capitals' 5-1 victory.
    But first, of course, everyone wanted to interview him.
    "Every dream come true," Leonhardt said. "Growing up in Canada, playing since I was 4. It was just very surreal. It was a blur, went by real quick."
    Although he didn't play, Leonhardt — whose nickname is, you guessed it, "Stretch" — enjoyed the thrill of his life as he dressed in jersey No. 80 and went through the usual player's pregame routine, including having his skates sharpened. Teammates greeted him warmly during pregame warmups as he fended off shots from superstar Alex Ovechkin and others while tending goal at the Verizon Center.
    "It was a great view. Usually I'm up here with you guys in the press box," Leonhardt said. "Mike Green started laughing his head off."
    During the first half of the first period, Leonhardt sat at the end of the bench in a white baseball cap. He looked down sheepishly when shown he was shown on the huge replay screen along with the caption: "1st NHL game." The crowd roared.
    The crowd cheered again later in the period when Varlamov — also new to the big league — was shown on the screen along with the same caption.
    The 26-year-old Leonhardt played two years for Oswego State in New York and two years for Neumann College in Pennsylvania before graduating in 2007. He has worked for the Capitals' Web site for about a year and has taken part in drills during practices when the team needed an extra goalie. He wore one of his college masks from Neumann during warmups.
    His chances of playing Friday weren't exactly remote. Johnson had a sore hip from a fall during Wednesday night's victory over the Boston Bruins.
    Even if he had played, Leonhardt wouldn't have received an NHL check. The special amateur contract pays nothing.
    "I should pay them for being able to do this," he said.
    The Capitals also reassigned forward Oskar Osala and defenseman Sean Collins to Hershey.
Title: Re: Press coverage (Articles about D3 players or D3 in general)
Post by: retagent on December 13, 2008, 11:02:55 AM
I guess I should have checked here before posting the above story in the d3 players in the pros thread. I should have known K Mack would be all over the Leonhardt saga.

Also, as I'm reading the previous posts, I need to clarify something. It always, as a former law enforcement agent, bothers me when people criticize officers for using force because they will probably be able to overcome the attacker with overwhelming force. Just because they might outnumber the attacker(s), doesn't mean that before they are able to subdue, no officer will get injured or killed. If a guy has a knife he can inflict grave damage on someone who doesn't use his gun soon enough. Someone can also injure with his fists ot feet one of three officers before the other two can subdue him. If you are the officer getting injured, what the hell difference does it make that your two comrades handcuff the guy after he has broken your face, arm, leg or otherwise done damage to your body. It gives little comfort to be in the hospital knowing that the guy was arrested after you got hurt.
Title: Re: Press coverage (Articles about D3 players or D3 in general)
Post by: Kira & Jaxon's Dad on December 13, 2008, 11:23:01 AM
Article about Kmic in Nate Kmic the NYT:

Nate Kmic (http://www.nytimes.com/2008/12/13/sports/ncaafootball/13mount.html?ref=sports)
Title: Re: Press coverage (Articles about D3 players or D3 in general)
Post by: retagent on December 15, 2008, 01:00:23 PM
As a follow-up to the Brett Leonhardt story above:

Brett was interviewed today on NHL Live on the NHL Network (I have it, but I realize it's not on all cable/satellite systems) by host Don La Greca and co-host Billy Jaffe. That program will be re-aired at 5:00 eastern, 4:00 central etc, if you want to see it. It aired after the first half-hour break, and they took about fifteen minutes with him. Brett did an excellent job, and did D III proud. You might think that he would be a little overwhelmed by the attention (ESPN, CNN, NHL Network etc.) but he was very well spoken and bantered with the hosts better than most seasoned pros. It  was a very good interview overall, where they mentioned Newman, and Oswego (but didn't specifically say they were Division III schools). I recommend it to all, even those who are, inexplicably, not hockey fans.
Title: Re: Press coverage (Articles about D3 players or D3 in general)
Post by: Ron Boerger on December 15, 2008, 01:07:48 PM
Of course he spoke better than most "seasoned pros" ... he actually went to college to get an education!   :D

This was a great story - thanks to you and K-mack for sharing.
Title: Re: Press coverage (Articles about D3 players or D3 in general)
Post by: K-Mack on December 17, 2008, 03:29:44 PM
You're welcome.

If it was about football, of course, I'd use the 'What we're Reading' link out front. That's been one of my favorite additions to our ever-so-busy front page this year.
Title: Re: Press coverage (Articles about D3 players or D3 in general)
Post by: K-Mack on January 13, 2009, 07:43:27 PM
2 coaches fall through hotel window at convention

    NASHVILLE, Tenn. (AP) — Two assistant coaches apparently wrestling with each other fell through a hotel window Tuesday morning and fell four stories to a concrete sidewalk, leaving one in serious condition.
    The American Football Coaches Association is holding its annual convention at the Opryland Hotel, and hotel security had been called around 4:10 a.m. with a noise complaint when officers found a broken window and Scott Coy and Darren DeMeio outside on the ground below.
    "They wrestled each other too close to the window going through it and down to the ground floor," Nashville police spokeswoman Kris Mumford said. "That's four floors."
    Coy, 29, is 6-foot-2 and 300 pounds from Newcastle, Pa. He was in critical condition and having surgery Tuesday afternoon at Vanderbilt University. DeMeio, 24, is 6-4, 225 pounds and from Clinton, Ohio. Police said he was in fair condition but remained in the hospital as of Tuesday afternoon.
   Coy is co-offensive coordinator at Westminster College in New Wilmington, Pa., and DeMeio is the running backs coach, according to the college's Web site. A telephone message left with the sports information office was not immediately returned Tuesday afternoon.
    Hotel spokeswoman Kim Keelor said the window the men fell through was double-paned with a strong wooden sash in the middle.
    "It's very sad. I definitely want to express our sympathy to their families. It's just a very strange and unfortunate occurrence," she said.
Title: Re: Press coverage (Articles about D3 players or D3 in general)
Post by: BoBo on January 14, 2009, 12:01:31 AM
Quote from: K-Mack on January 13, 2009, 07:43:27 PM
2 coaches fall through hotel window at convention

    NASHVILLE, Tenn. (AP) — Two assistant coaches apparently wrestling with each other fell through a hotel window Tuesday morning and fell four stories to a concrete sidewalk, leaving one in serious condition.
    The American Football Coaches Association is holding its annual convention at the Opryland Hotel, and hotel security had been called around 4:10 a.m. with a noise complaint when officers found a broken window and Scott Coy and Darren DeMeio outside on the ground below.
    "They wrestled each other too close to the window going through it and down to the ground floor," Nashville police spokeswoman Kris Mumford said. "That's four floors."
    Coy, 29, is 6-foot-2 and 300 pounds from Newcastle, Pa. He was in critical condition and having surgery Tuesday afternoon at Vanderbilt University. DeMeio, 24, is 6-4, 225 pounds and from Clinton, Ohio. Police said he was in fair condition but remained in the hospital as of Tuesday afternoon.
   Coy is co-offensive coordinator at Westminster College in New Wilmington, Pa., and DeMeio is the running backs coach, according to the college's Web site. A telephone message left with the sports information office was not immediately returned Tuesday afternoon.
    Hotel spokeswoman Kim Keelor said the window the men fell through was double-paned with a strong wooden sash in the middle.
    "It's very sad. I definitely want to express our sympathy to their families. It's just a very strange and unfortunate occurrence," she said.


Hope the guys will recover quickly, but I can't wait to hear [Paul Harvey speaking] ...the rest of the story!!  ;)
Title: Re: Press coverage (Articles about D3 players or D3 in general)
Post by: Knightstalker on January 15, 2009, 01:08:56 AM
Quote from: retagent on December 15, 2008, 01:00:23 PM
As a follow-up to the Brett Leonhardt story above:

Brett was interviewed today on NHL Live on the NHL Network (I have it, but I realize it's not on all cable/satellite systems) by host Don La Greca and co-host Billy Jaffe. That program will be re-aired at 5:00 eastern, 4:00 central etc, if you want to see it. It aired after the first half-hour break, and they took about fifteen minutes with him. Brett did an excellent job, and did D III proud. You might think that he would be a little overwhelmed by the attention (ESPN, CNN, NHL Network etc.) but he was very well spoken and bantered with the hosts better than most seasoned pros. It  was a very good interview overall, where they mentioned Newman, and Oswego (but didn't specifically say they were Division III schools). I recommend it to all, even those who are, inexplicably, not hockey fans.

And here we have another D-III tie in.  Don LeGreca went to Ramapo State College in New Jersey.
Title: Re: Press coverage (Articles about D3 players or D3 in general)
Post by: K-Mack on February 24, 2009, 11:00:46 PM
I feel like I've read a very similar story somewhere. Hmmm.

http://bestwebnewsonline.com/73-year-old-basketball-player-booted-off-college-team/
Title: Re: Press coverage (Articles about D3 players or D3 in general)
Post by: AF4 on March 02, 2009, 05:47:13 PM
Ralph et al

todays USA TODAY, Sports section c , cover story 'Playing on without a mascot'

although th article mostly revolves around Newberry (where my hischool coach played) it also discussed McMurray, shows where it is on a map, and mentions the new name of the former Indian stadium

thought i'd share

keep the faith 
Title: Re: Press coverage (Articles about D3 players or D3 in general)
Post by: K-Mack on July 07, 2009, 11:37:33 PM
McMurry ... not to be confused with MacMurray. :)

Here's something old quoting Willamette's Mark Speckman that I found ... an Outside the Lines on female kickers:

http://sports.espn.go.com/page2/tvlistings/show29transcript.html
Title: Re: Press coverage (Articles about D3 players or D3 in general)
Post by: Knightstalker on March 30, 2010, 03:58:44 PM
Here is a nice feel good story about the Kean football team.  This seems like a great program.
http://www.nj.com/sports/njsports/index.ssf/2010/03/kean_football_latest_team_to_e.html
Title: Re: Press coverage (Articles about D3 players or D3 in general)
Post by: retagent on April 06, 2010, 03:25:55 PM
I didn't get the whole story on this, but I happened to be watching a local news program out of Minneapolis/St Paul, where one of the anchors, Don Shelby, was thanking one of the sports guys for taking the heat off him, as far as getting hate mail. One of the three assertions made by the aforementioned (I love that word) sports announcer that had gotten him in trouble was his saying that the teams in the Womens NCAA Final Four could beat either most, or many, D III men's teams. I don't know if he was joking or not, but Shelby went on to say that he was right about all three statements, including that one. If the guy really believes that, he shouldn't be a sports announcer. My contention is that, despite the VAST improvement of womens' college basketball, I think they would have trouble beating most high school boys teams.
Title: Re: Press coverage (Articles about D3 players or D3 in general)
Post by: Ralph Turner on April 06, 2010, 05:17:35 PM
Quote from: retagent on April 06, 2010, 03:25:55 PM
I didn't get the whole story on this, but I happened to be watching a local news program out of Minneapolis/St Paul, where one of the anchors, Don Shelby, was thanking one of the sports guys for taking the heat off him, as far as getting hate mail. One of the three assertions made by the aforementioned (I love that word) sports announcer that had gotten him in trouble was his saying that the teams in the Womens NCAA Final Four could beat either most, or many, D III men's teams. I don't know if he was joking or not, but Shelby went on to say that he was right about all three statements, including that one. If the guy really believes that, he shouldn't be a sports announcer. My contention is that, despite the VAST improvement of womens' college basketball, I think they would have trouble beating most high school boys teams.
I think that the great variable in that statement is how physical the officials permit the players to be.

If you call blocks, charges and handchecks by "Naismithian" standards, then Baylor's 6'8" center will give a lot of D3 teams fits.

If you're permitting a very physical style of play, then the men win.
Title: Re: Press coverage (Articles about D3 players or D3 in general)
Post by: HSCTiger74 on April 06, 2010, 05:45:21 PM
Quote from: Ralph Turner on April 06, 2010, 05:17:35 PM
Quote from: retagent on April 06, 2010, 03:25:55 PM
I didn't get the whole story on this, but I happened to be watching a local news program out of Minneapolis/St Paul, where one of the anchors, Don Shelby, was thanking one of the sports guys for taking the heat off him, as far as getting hate mail. One of the three assertions made by the aforementioned (I love that word) sports announcer that had gotten him in trouble was his saying that the teams in the Womens NCAA Final Four could beat either most, or many, D III men's teams. I don't know if he was joking or not, but Shelby went on to say that he was right about all three statements, including that one. If the guy really believes that, he shouldn't be a sports announcer. My contention is that, despite the VAST improvement of womens' college basketball, I think they would have trouble beating most high school boys teams.
I think that the great variable in that statement is how physical the officials permit the players to be.

If you call blocks, charges and handchecks by "Naismithian" standards, then Baylor's 6'8" center will give a lot of D3 teams fits.

If you're permitting a very physical style of play, then the men win.

I saw an article a few years ago (in SI, I think) about Pat Summitt recruiting men from the general UT student body to scrimmage against her teams. They all have high school experience, almost all would have been able to play at the D2 or D3 level, and she assigns one of her assistants to coach them into some semblance of a team. Both they and the Lady Vols treat the scrimmages seriously, and sometimes the women win and sometimes they don't. Given that, I suspect that if a very good women's team were to play a decent D3 men's team that had been together for a full season the men would probably win. As a matter of fact, that might be a fun game to see.
Title: Re: Press coverage (Articles about D3 players or D3 in general)
Post by: Mr. Ypsi on April 06, 2010, 05:47:19 PM
Quote from: Ralph Turner on April 06, 2010, 05:17:35 PM
Quote from: retagent on April 06, 2010, 03:25:55 PM
I didn't get the whole story on this, but I happened to be watching a local news program out of Minneapolis/St Paul, where one of the anchors, Don Shelby, was thanking one of the sports guys for taking the heat off him, as far as getting hate mail. One of the three assertions made by the aforementioned (I love that word) sports announcer that had gotten him in trouble was his saying that the teams in the Womens NCAA Final Four could beat either most, or many, D III men's teams. I don't know if he was joking or not, but Shelby went on to say that he was right about all three statements, including that one. If the guy really believes that, he shouldn't be a sports announcer. My contention is that, despite the VAST improvement of womens' college basketball, I think they would have trouble beating most high school boys teams.
I think that the great variable in that statement is how physical the officials permit the players to be.

If you call blocks, charges and handchecks by "Naismithian" standards, then Baylor's 6'8" center will give a lot of D3 teams fits.

If you're permitting a very physical style of play, then the men win.

Generally speaking, you are correct, but I think you picked the wrong example with Baylor's Griner - have you seen the size of that girl?!  (And she is the one who got suspended for punching out an opponent - I don't think physical play is gonna faze her! ;))

While the sports announcer was undoubtedly speaking out of ignorance about d3 sports, I think the UConn women would beat 'many or most' d3 men's teams - conceivably even all of them.  I can't recall who it was, but a d1 men's coach said recently that there have been a handful of women players who could have started for most d1 men's teams.

No less than Mia Hamm admitted that an elite hs boy's team would defeat her World Cup winning team - differences in strength and speed are just too much to overcome.  But some girls/women have become so freakishly good AND strong, that in the more confined space of a bball court, a hot-shooting women's team would IMO defeat all but the very very best hs boy's or d3 men's teams.
Title: Re: Press coverage (Articles about D3 players or D3 in general)
Post by: Kira & Jaxon's Dad on April 06, 2010, 06:23:51 PM
Quote from: Mr. Ypsi on April 06, 2010, 05:47:19 PM
Quote from: Ralph Turner on April 06, 2010, 05:17:35 PM
Quote from: retagent on April 06, 2010, 03:25:55 PM
I didn't get the whole story on this, but I happened to be watching a local news program out of Minneapolis/St Paul, where one of the anchors, Don Shelby, was thanking one of the sports guys for taking the heat off him, as far as getting hate mail. One of the three assertions made by the aforementioned (I love that word) sports announcer that had gotten him in trouble was his saying that the teams in the Womens NCAA Final Four could beat either most, or many, D III men's teams. I don't know if he was joking or not, but Shelby went on to say that he was right about all three statements, including that one. If the guy really believes that, he shouldn't be a sports announcer. My contention is that, despite the VAST improvement of womens' college basketball, I think they would have trouble beating most high school boys teams.
I think that the great variable in that statement is how physical the officials permit the players to be.

If you call blocks, charges and handchecks by "Naismithian" standards, then Baylor's 6'8" center will give a lot of D3 teams fits.

If you're permitting a very physical style of play, then the men win.
While the sports announcer was undoubtedly speaking out of ignorance about d3 sports, I think the UConn women would beat 'many or most' d3 men's teams - conceivably even all of them.  I can't recall who it was, but a d1 men's coach said recently that there have been a handful of women players who could have started for most d1 men's teams.

I think it was Bruce Pearl, Tennessee's Men's BB Coach who said that.
Title: Re: Press coverage (Articles about D3 players or D3 in general)
Post by: Mr. Ypsi on April 06, 2010, 06:41:57 PM
Quote from: Manuel Willocq on April 06, 2010, 06:23:51 PM
Quote from: Mr. Ypsi on April 06, 2010, 05:47:19 PM
Quote from: Ralph Turner on April 06, 2010, 05:17:35 PM
Quote from: retagent on April 06, 2010, 03:25:55 PM
I didn't get the whole story on this, but I happened to be watching a local news program out of Minneapolis/St Paul, where one of the anchors, Don Shelby, was thanking one of the sports guys for taking the heat off him, as far as getting hate mail. One of the three assertions made by the aforementioned (I love that word) sports announcer that had gotten him in trouble was his saying that the teams in the Womens NCAA Final Four could beat either most, or many, D III men's teams. I don't know if he was joking or not, but Shelby went on to say that he was right about all three statements, including that one. If the guy really believes that, he shouldn't be a sports announcer. My contention is that, despite the VAST improvement of womens' college basketball, I think they would have trouble beating most high school boys teams.
I think that the great variable in that statement is how physical the officials permit the players to be.

If you call blocks, charges and handchecks by "Naismithian" standards, then Baylor's 6'8" center will give a lot of D3 teams fits.

If you're permitting a very physical style of play, then the men win.
While the sports announcer was undoubtedly speaking out of ignorance about d3 sports, I think the UConn women would beat 'many or most' d3 men's teams - conceivably even all of them.  I can't recall who it was, but a d1 men's coach said recently that there have been a handful of women players who could have started for most d1 men's teams.

I think it was Bruce Pearl, Tennessee's Men's BB Coach who said that.

Yeah, thanks, that was it.  He said several of Pat Summitt's players would have made his men's team, and that one (Candace Parker?) would have been a starter on his team.
Title: Re: Press coverage (Articles about D3 players or D3 in general)
Post by: gordonmann on April 06, 2010, 07:47:00 PM
Here's a relevant, though older, article on the topic:

http://www.nytimes.com/1997/02/20/sports/male-students-help-uconn-s-no-1-basketball-team-get-better.html?pagewanted=1

Note Auriemma's comments: ''The guys are stronger and quicker than our players,'' he said. ''They make it easier to simulate in practice what you want to work against.''
Title: Re: Press coverage (Articles about D3 players or D3 in general)
Post by: Ralph Turner on April 06, 2010, 08:30:50 PM
Quote from: gordonmann on April 06, 2010, 07:47:00 PM
Here's a relevant, though older, article on the topic:

http://www.nytimes.com/1997/02/20/sports/male-students-help-uconn-s-no-1-basketball-team-get-better.html?pagewanted=1

Note Auriemma's comments: ''The guys are stronger and quicker than our players,'' he said. ''They make it easier to simulate in practice what you want to work against.''
Wasn't this (Using men as practice players) prohibited by recent NCAA legislation?  2008?  2009?
Title: Re: Press coverage (Articles about D3 players or D3 in general)
Post by: Kira & Jaxon's Dad on April 06, 2010, 08:55:09 PM
Using Male Practice Players for Women's Basketball Teams (http://feministlookingglass.com/2010/03/05/using-male-practice-players-for-women%E2%80%99s-basketball-teams/)

QuoteIn 2007, the NCAA's Committee on Women's Athletics tried to get rid of male practice players.  Their reasoning was that using male practice players decreases opportunities for women.  The group said that the use of males  "violates the spirit of gender equity and Title IX" and "to have talented, capable female student-athletes stand on the sidelines during official practice while the team's starters practice against 'more talented men' is a lost opportunity." The effort failed and the current NCAA rule is that male practice players must be enrolled full-time in classes and cannot be rewarded in any way for their practice time with the team.
Title: Re: Press coverage (Articles about D3 players or D3 in general)
Post by: Kira & Jaxon's Dad on April 06, 2010, 09:10:56 PM
Here's a recent article about UConn and Florida using 12 Man Practice Squads for scrimmaging:

Male Practice Players (http://www.alligator.org/sports/basketball_-_women/article_759cc7b2-4124-11df-b112-001cc4c002e0.html)
Title: Re: Press coverage (Articles about D3 players or D3 in general)
Post by: Ralph Turner on April 06, 2010, 09:42:24 PM
Quote from: Manuel Willocq on April 06, 2010, 09:10:56 PM
Here's a recent article about UConn and Florida using 12 Man Practice Squads for scrimmaging:

Male Practice Players (http://www.alligator.org/sports/basketball_-_women/article_759cc7b2-4124-11df-b112-001cc4c002e0.html)


Quote"...It's definitely a job where you get no glory," said Justin Seitz, a junior history major. "Most practices we're playing defense most of the time, but I'll take what I can get. Being away from the game for a couple years makes you realize how much you like playing basketball."

Seitz had a few offers from small schools to continue his playing career after high school, but ended up at UF and now wants to be a basketball coach. He said playing for [UF Coach Amanda] Butler has afforded him the opportunity to learn a lot that will help him in the future.

"Getting in there and seeing how a coach runs a D-1 basketball program is good experience," Seitz said. "I try to take everything in and learn every time I go to practice.
..."

I can see the headline now...

Twenty years from now high school head coach Justin Seitz is being interviewed before the high school Final Four and says...

"Yes.  Most of what I know as a basketball coach, I learned from UF Coach Amanda Butler."
Title: Re: Press coverage (Articles about D3 players or D3 in general)
Post by: Ralph Turner on April 19, 2010, 12:34:21 AM
SI Faces in the Crowd

(https://www.d3boards.com/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.ascsports.org%2Fimages%2F2010%2F4%2F15%2Frp_primary_MongtagninoSIWEB.jpg&hash=a28b857aa2946f52f346370df78b5ad11ed80083)

Louisiana College senior centerfielder Jodi Montagnino is featured in Sports Illustrated's "Faces in the Crowd" section for the April 19th edition. Montagnino becomes the first ASC student-athlete to be featured in SI since McMurry baseball standout Derek David was is June of 2008.
Title: Re: Press coverage (Articles about D3 players or D3 in general)
Post by: PA_wesleyfan on June 08, 2010, 05:59:26 PM
I also posted this on the ACFC page.

http://www.delmarvanow.com/article/20100606/SPORTS/6060342/Fleetwood-back-SU-coach-returning-to-Cambridge-SD
Title: Re: Press coverage (Articles about D3 players or D3 in general)
Post by: retagent on January 25, 2011, 10:51:25 AM
This may be about as obscure a reference as will ever be posted, but............

I just finished reading The Confession, a John Grisham novel. On page 26, he is giving a short biography of the victim of a murder in Texas. He ascribes to her the fact that she applied to two colleges, Baylor, and Trinity, in San Antonio, Texas.
Title: Re: Press coverage (Articles about D3 players or D3 in general)
Post by: Kira & Jaxon's Dad on January 29, 2011, 07:56:01 AM
Widener vs. Lebanon Valley on Sportscenter Top Plays this morning.  #3 was a 65 foot shot.
Title: Re: Press coverage (Articles about D3 players or D3 in general)
Post by: Ralph Turner on February 08, 2012, 09:08:44 PM
Colleges for the socially awkward...

http://www.insidecollege.com/reno/Schools-for-a-Socially-Awkward-Student/423/list.do

Adrian
Augsburg
Bard
Bethany WV
Carnegie Mellon
Clark MA
Curry College
Defiance
Earlham
Guilford
Harvey Mudd
Keene State
Mitchell
Moravian
Muskingum
Tufts
U Ozarks
Puget Sound
Rochester
Westminster
WPI
Title: Re: Press coverage (Articles about D3 players or D3 in general)
Post by: AUPepBand on February 15, 2012, 01:24:29 PM
Alfred's Nick Clark getting shot at NFL, set for March 9 NFL Combine in Akron, OH.

http://www.wetmtv.com/sports/story/AUs-Clark-Eyes-NFL-Career/cUAqv_nUAEyDha4wRSt-IQ.cspx

On Saxon Warriors!
Title: Re: Press coverage (Articles about D3 players or D3 in general)
Post by: FCGrizzliesGrad on March 26, 2013, 11:27:14 PM
Article on espn about some successful former Whittier coaches
http://espn.go.com/blog/playbook/fandom/post/_/id/20015/whittier-college-once-had-allen-coryell (http://espn.go.com/blog/playbook/fandom/post/_/id/20015/whittier-college-once-had-allen-coryell)
Title: Re: Press coverage (Articles about D3 players or D3 in general)
Post by: Ralph Turner on April 03, 2013, 09:17:18 PM
Ronald Reagan's Boyhood Home Being Demolished by University of Chicago (http://www.dnainfo.com/chicago/20130403/hyde-park/ronald-reagans-boyhood-home-being-demolished-by-university-of-chicago)
Title: Re: Press coverage (Articles about D3 players or D3 in general)
Post by: Mr. Ypsi on April 03, 2013, 11:11:34 PM
Quote from: Ralph Turner on April 03, 2013, 09:17:18 PM
Ronald Reagan's Boyhood Home Being Demolished by University of Chicago (http://www.dnainfo.com/chicago/20130403/hyde-park/ronald-reagans-boyhood-home-being-demolished-by-university-of-chicago)

What a non-story.  Wasn't born there.  Probably did not even remember it.  'Boyhood Home' is ridiculous hype.  They will even include a plaque 'commemorating' its very slight connection to St. Ronnie.

Must have been a slow news day. ::)
Title: Re: Press coverage (Articles about D3 players or D3 in general)
Post by: ADL70 on April 04, 2013, 09:26:48 AM
ESPN's Big East Blog's report of SMU's hiring of Hal Mumme refers to him as former McMurry head coach, with no mention of his previous DI HC stops.
Title: Re: Press coverage (Articles about D3 players or D3 in general)
Post by: Ralph Turner on April 04, 2013, 11:32:08 AM
Quote from: ADL70 on April 04, 2013, 09:26:48 AM
ESPN's Big East Blog's report of SMU's hiring of Hal Mumme refers to him as former McMurry head coach, with no mention of his previous DI HC stops.
How quickly the reporter forgets!

Or, was he even paying attention to SEC football in the late 1990's?
Title: Re: Press coverage (Articles about D3 players or D3 in general)
Post by: Ralph Turner on April 06, 2013, 06:52:18 PM
Webster and UT-Dallas (http://www.theatlanticwire.com/national/2013/04/college-final-four-you-dont-want-miss/63951/) are among the College Chess Final Four.
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Post by: Pat Coleman on April 06, 2013, 08:41:23 PM
Quote from: Ralph Turner on April 06, 2013, 06:52:18 PM
Webster and UT-Dallas (http://www.theatlanticwire.com/national/2013/04/college-final-four-you-dont-want-miss/63951/) are among the College Chess Final Four.

Webster is a chess power but their recruiting tactics are not very #whyd3.
Title: Re: Press coverage (Articles about D3 players or D3 in general)
Post by: Mr. Ypsi on April 06, 2013, 10:33:56 PM
Quote from: Pat Coleman on April 06, 2013, 08:41:23 PM
Quote from: Ralph Turner on April 06, 2013, 06:52:18 PM
Webster and UT-Dallas (http://www.theatlanticwire.com/national/2013/04/college-final-four-you-dont-want-miss/63951/) are among the College Chess Final Four.

Webster is a chess power but their recruiting tactics are not very #whyd3.

True, but isn't 'stealing' a coach and an entire team from a D1 school pretty cool?! ;D
Title: Re: Press coverage (Articles about D3 players or D3 in general)
Post by: Ron Boerger on April 06, 2013, 11:54:56 PM
Blurb in the latest Time mag (yes, it still exists) about colleges admitting kids for the wrong reasons ... one of the snarky things said is that 30-35% of Division III students play athletics.  Of course the turkey who wrote the article probably thinks D3 athletes are sub-standard academically because, by golly, student athletes can't be as smart as their peers. 

Current issue articles are subscriber-only, so can't post a link.
Title: Re: Press coverage (Articles about D3 players or D3 in general)
Post by: Mr. Ypsi on April 07, 2013, 12:35:35 AM
Quote from: Ron Boerger on April 06, 2013, 11:54:56 PM
Blurb in the latest Time mag (yes, it still exists) about colleges admitting kids for the wrong reasons ... one of the snarky things said is that 30-35% of Division III students play athletics.  Of course the turkey who wrote the article probably thinks D3 athletes are sub-standard academically because, by golly, student athletes can't be as smart as their peers. 

Current issue articles are subscriber-only, so can't post a link.

I'm still a (paper) subscriber; it came today; haven't yet read it.  I'll have to check that out and see if I agree on the snarkiness.  (With the difficulties at some schools for paying students, especially males, I have little doubt that some D3 schools are more than willing to admit sub-par athletic recruits, but I have doubts that is a wide-spread problem.  Heck, I don't doubt there are schools that will admit any warm body who brings money, though I would hope they are rare in D3. :P)
Title: Re: Press coverage (Articles about D3 players or D3 in general)
Post by: repete on May 21, 2013, 07:05:45 PM
Not about d3 overall, but some mentions:

http://www.nytimes.com/2013/05/10/sports/alex-ferguson-is-among-historys-greatest-coaches.html?pagewanted=all (http://www.nytimes.com/2013/05/10/sports/alex-ferguson-is-among-historys-greatest-coaches.html?pagewanted=all)

Title: Re: Press coverage (Articles about D3 players or D3 in general)
Post by: repete on May 21, 2013, 07:10:09 PM
Nice story ... except for the clueless d3 reference ...

http://www.newsday.com/sports/football/giants/free-agent-charles-dieuseul-wants-to-make-a-name-for-himself-with-giants-1.5233347 (http://www.newsday.com/sports/football/giants/free-agent-charles-dieuseul-wants-to-make-a-name-for-himself-with-giants-1.5233347)
Title: Re: Press coverage (Articles about D3 players or D3 in general)
Post by: madzillagd on October 01, 2013, 01:53:14 PM
Long form article on D3 football finances and the resurgence of football in some schools that haven't played for decades.

http://www.sbnation.com/longform/2013/10/1/4786810/diii-football-revolution
Title: Re: Press coverage (Articles about D3 players or D3 in general)
Post by: D3MAFAN on October 01, 2013, 03:50:43 PM
Any idea if this goverment stoppage is having some effect on Division III Military acadamies?
Title: Re: Press coverage (Articles about D3 players or D3 in general)
Post by: mattvsmith on October 02, 2013, 05:35:27 AM
Don't know if USCGA is up and running. It likely is, because the military was exempted from the shut down. However, my friend who is a USCG civilian employee was furloughed, so maybe the civilian profs had to stay home.
The most ridiculous thing I've seen about the shutdown is the NOAA website. They made a screen saying that their website was shutdown due to the overall shutdown. It took an employee time and money to do that. The website itself was static and not often updated, so it would have cost nothing to leave it as is. It's just BS designed to make things inconvenient. I found the info on another website.
Title: Re: Press coverage (Articles about D3 players or D3 in general)
Post by: mattvsmith on October 02, 2013, 07:00:01 AM
Quote from: madzillagd on October 01, 2013, 01:53:14 PM
Long form article on D3 football finances and the resurgence of football in some schools that haven't played for decades.

http://www.sbnation.com/longform/2013/10/1/4786810/diii-football-revolution

What an interesting article!
I'm amazed at the assumptions the allegedly open-minded liberals have about football. The critics featured in the article operated on a level of stereotyping that, had we replaced "football" with blacks, women, LGBT, or whatnot, then there would be hell to pay.

It's funny to me because the most liberal colleges in the world have football teams. Princeton, possibly the root of all evil (or all greatness if you love perpetual wars and inflation), has many sports. Does having sports make the extremely liberal schools of the NESCAC somehow crypto-fascists? What a bunch of ninnies!

In short, the critics mentioned are just a$$holes. Good on Hendrix for reviving football! I hope you guys make a lot of money from it.
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Post by: madzillagd on October 02, 2013, 12:59:30 PM
Well my experience reading SB Nation original content is mixed at best.  It's a network of bloggers mainly so while some consistently provide you with great stuff, others tend to overreach past their experience level to put it in a nice way. 
Title: Re: Press coverage (Articles about D3 players or D3 in general)
Post by: ExTartanPlayer on October 02, 2013, 01:31:39 PM
Quote from: repete on May 21, 2013, 07:10:09 PM
Nice story ... except for the clueless d3 reference...

http://www.newsday.com/sports/football/giants/free-agent-charles-dieuseul-wants-to-make-a-name-for-himself-with-giants-1.5233347 (http://www.newsday.com/sports/football/giants/free-agent-charles-dieuseul-wants-to-make-a-name-for-himself-with-giants-1.5233347)

Funny, I just looked at this.  I have to just laugh when I read things like that.  Opinions of D3 football seem to fall into three categories, from my experience. 

1) The most accurate: people truly familiar with the game understand that it's real football, just like what they see on TV, and that the teams have real coaches, practices every day, film sessions, offseason weight training and, not only that, but that Division III teams are full of guys who were very, very good HS football players.  These people generally know that any "average" D3 football team would run a good high school team off the field.

2) The middle-ground seems to be people that think it's an extension of high school football, but that the competition is scarcely different than HS football, and that their good-ol-boy high school teams could beat some Division III teams. 

3) The lowest seems to be the few morons who are under the impression that it's "just a step above intramurals" and that teams maybe gather to practice once in a while and play a few games, with some mix of kids that played in high school and random dudes that just walked on to the team.

Reminds of the portrayal of Vince Papale as some random bartender that just tried out for the Eagles because he was tearing up the beer league...neglecting to mention that Papale was an elite track athlete in college who won the conference meet in the long jump and triple jump.  He hadn't played college ball, but he was a little more of an athlete than he's made out to be in the movie.
Title: Re: Press coverage (Articles about D3 players or D3 in general)
Post by: ITH radio on October 02, 2013, 01:51:21 PM
Quote from: Rt Rev J.H. Hobart on October 02, 2013, 05:35:27 AM
Don't know if USCGA is up and running. It likely is, because the military was exempted from the shut down. However, my friend who is a USCG civilian employee was furloughed, so maybe the civilian profs had to stay home.
The most ridiculous thing I've seen about the shutdown is the NOAA website. They made a screen saying that their website was shutdown due to the overall shutdown. It took an employee time and money to do that. The website itself was static and not often updated, so it would have cost nothing to leave it as is. It's just BS designed to make things inconvenient. I found the info on another website.

Well, they are playing FB this wkd.  We covered it in our show / now podcast from last Sunday.  Tune in to 15:30 in and you'll get a good overview of why Coast Guard side-steps the shutdown given their Dept.
Title: Re: Press coverage (Articles about D3 players or D3 in general)
Post by: ADL70 on December 27, 2014, 09:56:14 PM
This seems as good a thread as any to post some d3 connections in today's bowl games.

VT lineman Wade Hansen transferred from RPI.

During the Sun Bowl broadcast mention of the 1-1-40 0-0 tie  between ASU and Catholic.  I didn't hear mention of Western Reserve's win over ASU on 1-1-41
Title: Re: Press coverage (Articles about D3 players or D3 in general)
Post by: 02 Warhawk on March 04, 2015, 12:54:18 PM
On twitter I follow a Sports Illustrated historian who manages SI's photo archives. He's always posting some great old photos from SI's past. Today he posted this gem of John Madden and Pat Summerall speaking with the Wittenberg football team before a 1982 practice.

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/B_RO7rDU4AAR3Qy.jpg)
Title: Re: Press coverage (Articles about D3 players or D3 in general)
Post by: 1837Tigers on November 01, 2016, 09:02:43 PM
Nice recent (Oct. 11) piece on DePauw's Hunt and Mitsch brothers, aired on Indianapolis TV:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U7b-yRsGRU8
Title: Re: Press coverage (Articles about D3 players or D3 in general)
Post by: ADL70 on November 03, 2016, 08:38:46 AM
Quote from: 02 Warhawk on March 04, 2015, 12:54:18 PM
On twitter I follow a Sports Illustrated historian who manages SI's photo archives. He's always posting some great old photos from SI's past. Today he posted this gem of John Madden and Pat Summerall speaking with the Wittenberg football team before a 1982 practice.

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/B_RO7rDU4AAR3Qy.jpg)

That was during NFL strike, CBS broadcast the Witt-BW game in place of NFL
Title: Re: Press coverage (Articles about D3 players or D3 in general)
Post by: E.115 on April 15, 2017, 05:16:15 PM
Opinions from three Cleveland area schools: John Carroll, Case Western Reserve, and Mount Union.

College football: Division III two-a-day summer practices will likely be eliminated

http://www.morningjournal.com/sports/20170409/college-football-division-iii-two-a-day-summer-practices-will-likely-be-eliminated
Title: Re: Press coverage (Articles about D3 players or D3 in general)
Post by: FCGrizzliesGrad on May 14, 2017, 12:30:15 PM
Gallaudet and the mixture of students from deaf and hearing cultures

https://www.theatlantic.com/education/archive/2017/05/americas-deaf-team-tackles-identity-politics/525945/ (https://www.theatlantic.com/education/archive/2017/05/americas-deaf-team-tackles-identity-politics/525945/)
Title: Re: Press coverage (Articles about D3 players or D3 in general)
Post by: Smitty Oom on May 30, 2017, 02:12:21 PM
I think this would be a good place to put this article...
Former University of Ozarks Baseball player wins the Madden World Championship and $150,000 grand prize!!

http://www.tulsaworld.com/scene/features/he-won-playing-a-video-game-meet-claremore-s-michael/article_a41e6e4f-64bb-55ee-a36f-d5cdc606cf9e.html (http://www.tulsaworld.com/scene/features/he-won-playing-a-video-game-meet-claremore-s-michael/article_a41e6e4f-64bb-55ee-a36f-d5cdc606cf9e.html)
Title: Re: Press coverage (Articles about D3 players or D3 in general)
Post by: Joe Rockhead on November 22, 2018, 10:31:38 AM
Here is a link to a preview of a feature on Muhlenberg's Coach Donnelly that will air on Thanksgiving Day on CBS sports. The preview speaks for itself. https://twitter.com/CBSSportsNet/status/1064946456522575872

If you can turn off the NFL game for a few minutes, it will be worth your time to watch this feature on Coach Donnelly on CBS Sports' Inside College Football this afternoon at 2:30. It will put Division III football in the proper perspective. Anyone who has or may have had a son playing college football, think about what kind of person you were expecting to entrust your son's future with on the day you dropped them off for pre-season camp freshmen year. You couldn't ask for a finer man than Mike Donnelly. Success on the field is only part of the equation in D3. He provided so much more to the players who passed through his program.
Title: Re: Press coverage (Articles about D3 players or D3 in general)
Post by: Joe Rockhead on November 23, 2018, 09:04:26 AM

If you missed the broadcast of the CBS Sports Network's feature on Mike Donnelly, you can watch the entire 10 minute piece here:

https://twitter.com/CBSSportsNet/status/1065697657476210688

I promise you it's worth 10 minutes of your time.
Title: Re: Press coverage (Articles about D3 players or D3 in general)
Post by: Gray Fox on July 20, 2019, 12:26:38 PM
Joe Rockhead,

Great story.  My cousin played there in the 50's and has been a major supporter ever since.

I'm forwarding this to him.
Title: Re: Press coverage (Articles about D3 players or D3 in general)
Post by: Gray Fox on August 24, 2019, 10:14:05 PM
Best Football Colleges

https://usatodayhss.com/2019/ncsas-best-football-colleges-2019-ncsa-power-rankings
Title: Re: Press coverage (Articles about D3 players or D3 in general)
Post by: ADL70 on August 25, 2019, 09:42:20 AM
https://www.thiel.edu/newsroom/press-releases/detail/thiel-college-plays-a-starring-role-in-new-coca-cola-college-football