I am a parent of a future college student. He is looking at DII and DIII schools across the country. I have used the maps at Wikipedia to help locate schools. The site did not have a map of DIII schools. I found it very helpful, so I created one. I am attaching it. It is your to use on your site if you wish. Other parents and students may find it useful. I used the programs listed at Wikipedia for the source of information. The exact locations are approximate, but should be helpful.
Full image is here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:D3_football_map.gif
(https://www.d3boards.com/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fupload.wikimedia.org%2Fwikipedia%2Fen%2Fthumb%2F9%2F94%2FD3_football_map.gif%2F800px-D3_football_map.gif&hash=e577f66983eb608aa288fbf3c1f0b194ba079b1c)
Sorry -- I got your e-mail a while back but haven't had a chance to vett the map for accuracy. It looked good at first glance, though.
+1 wdglide! :)
Thank you so much for compiling this. This is one feature about the NAIA site that I admired.
Realizing this is only football, and maybe we can start working on basketball and then baseball, let the proofreading begin.
McMurry is on the south side of town in Abilene, TX. Our rivals, Hardin-Simmons, are on the north side of Abilene! :D
May I make one suggestion? Is it possible to add a mileage scale at the bottom of the chart that has the approximate distances of 200 and 500 miles?
That looks pretty good. Nice work.
Outstanding job. I am amazed at the number of states that don't have DIII schools and/or the ones that only have one or two. Particularly Florida.
Thanks.
My method for placing the icons was similar to "pin the tail on the donkey". I copied the format used at http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/College_football#Team_maps (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/College_football#Team_maps). I wasn't shooting for accurate placement. It just helps me visualize where I might be sending my son (and my hard earned cash).
I am in Florida. We have no D2 or D3 Schools and only 2 NAIA. So maps are needed for us down here.
I hope this is useful for others.
WOW
awesome job
if he wants some sunny southern weather .. come and check out the Huntingdon campus in historic Montgomery, al.... a place where the history of the Confederacy and Civil Rights struggle come together.... we accross town from Dr Kings old church (Dexter Ave Baptist), The Southern Poverty Law Center, The State Capital, The First Capital of the Confederacy, the birth place of Hank Williams ( not junior..he was born in shreveport, but calls north alabama home), a bunch of pro athlete, artist, musicians, and politicians (US Senator jeff Sessions-and Huntingdon graduate being one), next county over where the black panther party was started (lowndes co, al) and a plethora of good hunting and fishing (note: the term 'a bunch' of is more alabaman than 'plethora'...but both r acceptable terms down here, depending on the company u keep)
the state that produced Harper Lee (to kill a mocking bird- who attended Huntingdon...but left due to ...uh... we can't speak of why...but her sister is a Huntingdon graduate) Joe Louis, Leroy Jordan, Barry Krause, Bo Jackson, Shug Jordan, Willie Mays, Hank Aaron (THE REAL HAMMER), Kenny Stabler-Joe Namath (from college), Pat Sullivan, Dieter Brock .....and on and on and on into the night..and where some feller they called Bear use to coach in tuscaloosa
Huntingdon is now in the SLIAC conference for football and GSAC for other sports...............and we can always use some more speed
thanks for the map
keep the faith...and GO HAWKS
Can we please have this map as prerequisite reading prior to yearly discussions of why the Stagg should remain in Virginia?
Well done wdglide!
Quote from: hscoach on April 16, 2008, 10:49:30 AM
Can we please have this map as prerequisite reading prior to yearly discussions of why the Stagg should remain in Virginia?
Well done wdglide!
+1, noted and archived for future reference.
Salem VA is the farthest logical venue south to the "population center" of D3 and farthest east that we can get to try to avoid the really yucky weather that can befall the midwest, northeast or Ohio River valley in December, without adding another 3-4 hours to the drive!
Quote from: Ralph Turner on April 16, 2008, 02:25:14 PM
Quote from: hscoach on April 16, 2008, 10:49:30 AM
Can we please have this map as prerequisite reading prior to yearly discussions of why the Stagg should remain in Virginia?
Well done wdglide!
+1, noted and archived for future reference.
Salem VA is the farthest logical venue south to the "population center" of D3 and farthest east that we can get to try to avoid the really yucky weather that can befall the midwest, northeast or Ohio River valley in December, without adding another 3-4 hours to the drive!
Not to mention that the back drop is beautiful with the mountains.
For those that haven't taken time to site see. On your next trip to Salem for the Stagg bowl, come a day early and go to Lexington and visit the campus of Washington & Lee and VMI which butt up against each other. Beautiful city and campus. Then if you have time visit Natural Bridge. And if you are in no big hurry, you are a short distance from Virginia Tech, University of Virginia, Bridgewater and James Madison University. All have outstanding campus' and the mountain back drop on all is beautiful. Finally if you ever followed the Statler Brothers, their home town is Staunton (between Lexington and Charlottesville. Their corporate office is set up in an old school house and is open to the public.
OK, I am done being a tour guide. But if you want to come further east we have Busch Gardens, Williamsburg, Virginia Beach, and the peanut capital of the world - Suffolk. (home of Planters Peanuts). OK I am done. Nobody wants to talk on the USA South Board and I was bored.
Here's an
old google map link (http://maps.google.com/maps/ms?ie=UTF8&hl=en&msa=0&msid=109767524997558694757.00044532e9a94a86fe9d9&ll=49.396675,-96.04248&spn=8.01044,17.753906&z=6/).. not sure of the author, but it is a few years behind. I've tweaked a few things but it's in need of a major update.
Some of the logos are whacked out, i.e., an NJAC in SoCal, etc. If someone has the time, inclination and ability to fix it, message me and I open it up so they can edit it. I just don't have the time.
kickerdad - As someone who moved from Virginia three years back, you've made me a little "homesick" for the Old Dominion. My son went to a Lacrosse camp at Washington & Lee, and I concur with your assessment. UVa, and the Charlottesville area is also very scenic and tranquil.
On a slightly different note, maybe this visual will serve to illustrate exactly how isolated and how difficult it is for our Texas and Northwest brethern to schedule games and compete at the DIII level. :-\
Quote from: Josh Bowerman on April 17, 2008, 10:13:11 AM
On a slightly different note, maybe this visual will serve to illustrate exactly how isolated and how difficult it is for our Texas and Northwest brethern to schedule games and compete at the DIII level. :-\
Some Midwest schools also are having trouble filling their schedules. Eau Claire and Whitewater are still looking for a third nonconference game. Whitewater is already travelling to Puget Sound on Sept. 27th. If someone has an open date on Sept. 13th or Sept. 20th, Whitewater is willing to play you!
Quote from: voice on April 17, 2008, 08:11:11 PM
Quote from: Josh Bowerman on April 17, 2008, 10:13:11 AM
On a slightly different note, maybe this visual will serve to illustrate exactly how isolated and how difficult it is for our Texas and Northwest brethern to schedule games and compete at the DIII level. :-\
Some Midwest schools also are having trouble filling their schedules. Eau Claire and Whitewater are still looking for a third nonconference game. Whitewater is already travelling to Puget Sound on Sept. 27th. If someone has an open date on Sept. 13th or Sept. 20th, Whitewater is willing to play you!
I was under the impression that UMHB wanted to keep the series going with Whitewater but the Warhawks walked away. Is that impression wrong?
A very reliable, knowledgeable source has told me the same thing, Wildcat11.
If EC and WW can't get a game, they should play eachother. I know that's not what they want to do, but it's better than nothing. LAX went with 9 games for quite a while, and it seems they have dropped in performance since then. The players deserve to have 10 games.
Quote from: janesvilleflash on April 18, 2008, 07:32:48 AM
If EC and WW can't get a game, they should play eachother. I know that's not what they want to do, but it's better than nothing. LAX went with 9 games for quite a while, and it seems they have dropped in performance since then. The players deserve to have 10 games.
Why not? We do it all of the time in the ASC.
It's been done in the WIAC before too. Stevens Point/Platteville and River Falls/Oshkosh have both played non-conference games against each other within the last 10 years.
A better scenario would be for D3 teams in the Midwest be willing to play the better teams in the WIAC. Whitewater has been turned down repeatedly from teams in the Midwest, South, and from the West Coast to the East Coast. I am absolutely flabergasted! At least La Crosse has finally been able to get 10 games for the first time in three years. A number of D2 teams have even passed on playing UWW, even at their place in a 1 year agreeement.
Quote from: wildcat11 on April 17, 2008, 10:52:29 PM
Quote from: voice on April 17, 2008, 08:11:11 PM
Quote from: Josh Bowerman on April 17, 2008, 10:13:11 AM
On a slightly different note, maybe this visual will serve to illustrate exactly how isolated and how difficult it is for our Texas and Northwest brethern to schedule games and compete at the DIII level. :-\
Some Midwest schools also are having trouble filling their schedules. Eau Claire and Whitewater are still looking for a third nonconference game. Whitewater is already travelling to Puget Sound on Sept. 27th. If someone has an open date on Sept. 13th or Sept. 20th, Whitewater is willing to play you!
I was under the impression that UMHB wanted to keep the series going with Whitewater but the Warhawks walked away. Is that impression wrong?
I was at the AFCA conference in Anaheim and was assured UMHB was willing to continue the series but Whitewater was not. This is in no way meant to be harping against Whitewater, it is just the facts. I am sure they had their reasons.
Thanks wdglide. It is a great map and I copied it to the Centennial Conference post for all of the to review..
It won't be of much help in that. Geography is not a factor in how teams are selected.
Sorry Pat, I removed the comment. Just plain forgot about owp oowp. Still thinking in the in region and out of region mode
Just for the record, this is a great idea.
I made one by hand several years ago for my own use in Around the Nation columns, so we could have facts handy like how many teams per state, how far (or close) some in-state or inter-state road trips were (Like somebody this year played all or most of their games in Ohio except a game in Indiana, which was actually just across the state line)
Site tech guy Ryan Coleman at least a year ago began the D3 Google Map among all his other projects, but I think it was to incorporate all D3 schools in all sports and have some searchable functions, and it obviously didn't get to the point of launch.
So glad someone went ahead and did it. It helps "a bunch" to be able to visualize.
Definitely a super-useful tool for reasons mentioned on this thread and others (Salem as championship site, West Coast bias claims, Texas schools having trouble scheduling, etc.)
Quote from: kickerdad on April 16, 2008, 03:53:24 PM
Then if you have time visit Natural Bridge.
I drive by this every year on the way to and from the Stagg Bowl and say "Man, I really should go see that some time."
Va. definitely has some great history and outdoorsy-type tourist stuff to do.
NAIA Football Map (http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/a/a9/Cfnaia.PNG)
(I borrowed this from somewhere else on the boards and now cannot find who posted it originally! :-\ )
Please note that Geneva is now a provisional member of the Presidents AC.
Quote from: janesvilleflash on April 18, 2008, 07:32:48 AM
If EC and WW can't get a game, they should play eachother. I know that's not what they want to do, but it's better than nothing. LAX went with 9 games for quite a while, and it seems they have dropped in performance since then. The players deserve to have 10 games.
Schedules are now out and that is exactly what EC and WW are doing.
Geneva College is located in Beaver Falls, Pa (populaion about 9000) and is situated on the Beaver River, a tributary of the Ohio west of Pittsburgh. Joe Namath played for Beaver Falls High School. In Joe's time and presumably to today Beaver Falls High School has played its games on Geneva's field. Also Cal Hubbard, an original inductee in the Pro FB HOF, played at Geneva. There are memorabilia about Cal in Geneva's trophy case - at least there were about 15 years when I visited Geneva to watch a DL play for Trinity International (not to be confused with Trinity University or Trinity College) against Geneva. A guy at the car rental counter at the Pittsburgh airport threw a hissy fit when I said to him that Cal was a better player than Joe.
Quote from: frank uible on June 01, 2008, 12:18:34 PM
Geneva College is located in Beaver Falls, Pa (populaion about 9000) and is situated on the Beaver River, a tributary of the Ohio west of Pittsburgh. Joe Namath played for Beaver Falls High School. In Joe's time and presumably to today Beaver Falls High School has played its games on Geneva's field. Also Cal Hubbard, an original inductee in the Pro FB HOF, played at Geneva. There are memorabilia about Cal in Geneva's trophy case - at least there were about 15 years when I visited Geneva to watch a DL play for Trinity International (not to be confused with Trinity University or Trinity College) against Geneva. A guy at the car rental counter at the Pittsburgh airport threw a hissy fit when I said to him that Cal was a better player than Joe.
I remembered that Cal Hubbard was the (Baseball HOF) major league umpire who had played football at Centenary College in Shreveport!
Wikipedia (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cal_Hubbard)
He played both at Centenary and at Geneva.
Quote from: frank uible on June 01, 2008, 03:41:31 PM
He played both at Centenary and at Geneva.
Yeah, as a 26 year old college student at Geneva!
It was a different era.
I appreciate the scientific analysis that Cal Hubbard brought to baseball officiating.
He may have been paid better by Centenary and Geneva than by the Giants and the Packers.
Quote from: frank uible on June 01, 2008, 04:55:28 PM
He may have been paid better by Centenary and Geneva than by the Giants and the Packers.
Frank, have you heard when did the concept of athletic scholarship began?
No, please tell.
Quote from: frank uible on June 01, 2008, 06:14:56 PM
No, please tell.
I haven't heard either. Unfortunately, my father and grandfather, who might know this are no longer living...
Ralph: The people in my family, who would have been most likely to know, are gone too.
Quote from: frank uible on June 01, 2008, 07:52:08 PM
Ralph: The people in my family, who would have been most likely to know, are gone too.
Okay Frank, let's start here.
http://select.nytimes.com/gst/abstract.html?res=F70614F83C5A1B7B93C6A91789D95F428385F9
Dec, 1936.
I don't have a article pack feature, but the article talks about the "Western Conference". :)
Quote from: wdglide on April 15, 2008, 07:01:22 AM
I am a parent of a future college student. He is looking at DII and DIII schools across the country. I have used the maps at Wikipedia to help locate schools. The site did not have a map of DIII schools. I found it very helpful, so I created one. I am attaching it. It is your to use on your site if you wish. Other parents and students may find it useful. I used the programs listed at Wikipedia for the source of information. The exact locations are approximate, but should be helpful.
Full image is here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:D3_football_map.gif
(https://www.d3boards.com/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fupload.wikimedia.org%2Fwikipedia%2Fen%2Fthumb%2F9%2F94%2FD3_football_map.gif%2F800px-D3_football_map.gif&hash=e577f66983eb608aa288fbf3c1f0b194ba079b1c)
Did you do a D2 football map, too? I think they do a good job of filling in the upper midwest, even better than the NAIA.
Until 1987 officially known as the Intercollegiate Conference of Faculty Representatives, it has popularly been known as the Western Conference, the
Big Nine, and the Big Ten, as it is now officially known.
I had an uncle now deceased, who played for Penn State in the early to mid 20s, and am of the impression that he was on "athletic scholarship" there.
Lou Gehrig attended Columbia from 1921 - 1923 on a football scholarship according to these websites:
http://www.lougehrig.com/about/bio.htm
http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/baseball/mlb/features/1998/yankees/flashbacks/fall95.html
He scored his first collegiate touchdown against Ursinus College in a 48-3 victory. He pitched in one of his earliest collegiate games against Williams (a 5-1 loss).
It will be interesting to see what you guys can dredge up about athletic scholarships, but I suspect it is a hopeless quest. While the 'concept' is now well-defined (though not well understood as some hs coaches and sports writers still talk about the 'scholarship' players at d3 schools!), I'm almost certain that Fielding Yost had occasional 'ringers' back at the turn of the 20th century - aren't these, in effect, 'athletic scholarships' (and perhaps more 'honest' than O. J. Mayo :D)?
I made a Google map for all the D3 schools too. Its unlocked and can be edited by anyone who wishes.
http://maps.google.com/maps/ms?ie=UTF&msa=0&msid=100650448045177027385.000456158e87106fbc30e (http://maps.google.com/maps/ms?ie=UTF&msa=0&msid=100650448045177027385.000456158e87106fbc30e)
It does not have street addresses or conferences. Feel free to edit away.
Phil
I added the WIAC schools. Since there aren't enough icons to do a different one for each conference I decided to color code them based on region. I am working on it right now but probably won't finish since I have practice soon.
Thanks. I have a kml file if it helps anyone. Its looking good.
http://maps.google.com/maps/ms?ie=UTF&msa=0&msid=100650448045177027385.000456158e87106fbc30e
Very cool idea. Nice work.
A friend recently pointed out to me that the first incarnation of the map is missing Christopher Newport.
Quote from: wdglide on September 04, 2008, 02:11:55 PM
I made a Google map for all the D3 schools too. Its unlocked and can be edited by anyone who wishes.
http://maps.google.com/maps/ms?ie=UTF&msa=0&msid=100650448045177027385.000456158e87106fbc30e (http://maps.google.com/maps/ms?ie=UTF&msa=0&msid=100650448045177027385.000456158e87106fbc30e)
It does not have street addresses or conferences. Feel free to edit away.
Phil
Very cool.
Quote from: wdglide on September 04, 2008, 04:29:51 PM
Thanks. I have a kml file if it helps anyone. Its looking good.
http://maps.google.com/maps/ms?ie=UTF&msa=0&msid=100650448045177027385.000456158e87106fbc30e
Nice. I recently came across your map and decided to build one for SLIAC so I could plan my trips to the away games. It's a long haul from Georgia to Illinois.
Good work wdglide! :)
It appears both the wikipedia and Google map are inoperative.
I know we have/had one on the blog, but for quick reference, this was nice. I'm sure I have it saved, but just wondering if it was out there and had moved or improved.
Nevermind. Found it.
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/0/01/NCAA_Division_3_football_map.gif
Quote from: K-Mack on June 03, 2010, 01:52:39 AM
Nevermind. Found it.
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/0/01/NCAA_Division_3_football_map.gif
That is a pretty big difference to location when you actually see it on the map. I always knew that DIII was dominate in the North East region of the US, but dang!!! I especially like how Colorado College is just chilling in the middle all alone!
Quote from: dc_has_been on June 04, 2010, 01:22:06 PM
Quote from: K-Mack on June 03, 2010, 01:52:39 AM
Nevermind. Found it.
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/0/01/NCAA_Division_3_football_map.gif
That is a pretty big difference to location when you actually see it on the map. I always knew that DIII was dominate in the North East region of the US, but dang!!! I especially like how Colorado College is just chilling in the middle all alone!
Map is outdated. Colorado College Dropped Football a year or two ago.
Quote from: Manuel Willocq on June 04, 2010, 09:53:17 PM
Quote from: dc_has_been on June 04, 2010, 01:22:06 PM
Quote from: K-Mack on June 03, 2010, 01:52:39 AM
Nevermind. Found it.
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/0/01/NCAA_Division_3_football_map.gif
That is a pretty big difference to location when you actually see it on the map. I always knew that DIII was dominate in the North East region of the US, but dang!!! I especially like how Colorado College is just chilling in the middle all alone!
Map is outdated. Colorado College Dropped Football a year or two ago.
And Eureka and Principia have discontinued football. Huntingdon and LaGrange have been dropped from the SLIAC as that conference discontinued sponsoring football.
Castleton State, Anna Marie and the rest of the ECFC have not been configured.
And Menlo has moved to NAIA.
and if what 'seinfeld' says (with great conviction) on the NCAC board is true, DePauw is about to leave the SCAC for the NCAC.
Quote from: Ron Boerger on June 05, 2010, 07:47:38 PM
and if what 'seinfeld' says (with great conviction) on the NCAC board is true, DePauw is about to leave the SCAC for the NCAC.
I thought that might be a possibility after Earlham left the NCAC for the HCAC. Cuts down on travel and puts them in the same conference as their longtime rival Wabash.
Quote from: Ron Boerger on June 05, 2010, 07:47:38 PM
and if what 'seinfeld' says (with great conviction) on the NCAC board is true, DePauw is about to leave the SCAC for the NCAC.
That would make sense. Why fly to venues in Texas, Alabama, and Mississippi, when you can merely hop on a chartered bus to Ohio and Pennsylvania (though I'm told the rides back from Wittenberg and Allegheny aren't uniformly pleasant :P)?
Quote from: Ralph Turner on June 04, 2010, 10:24:38 PM
Quote from: Manuel Willocq on June 04, 2010, 09:53:17 PM
Quote from: dc_has_been on June 04, 2010, 01:22:06 PM
Quote from: K-Mack on June 03, 2010, 01:52:39 AM
Nevermind. Found it.
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/0/01/NCAA_Division_3_football_map.gif
That is a pretty big difference to location when you actually see it on the map. I always knew that DIII was dominate in the North East region of the US, but dang!!! I especially like how Colorado College is just chilling in the middle all alone!
Map is outdated. Colorado College Dropped Football a year or two ago.
And Eureka and Principia have discontinued football. Huntingdon and LaGrange have been dropped from the SLIAC as that conference discontinued sponsoring football.
Castleton State, Anna Marie and the rest of the ECFC have not been configured.
Yes, yes, we're aware ... but this map is 210/238ths functional or what have you.
The one we were working on was customizable/updatable but we didn't make it into a permanent fixture on the site.
So the wiki will have to do for now.
It looks like Wiki has eliminated Colorado. :(
Colorado College eliminated itself two seasons ago.
Quote from: frank uible on May 29, 2012, 09:00:11 PM
Colorado College eliminated itself two seasons ago.
The discussion had been why CC was still on the map.