Poll
Question:
Who will win the ECSU Regional?
Option 1: Tufts
votes: 2
Option 2: Wheaton
votes: 4
Option 3: WNEC
votes: 5
Option 4: ECSU
votes: 5
Option 5: Worcester St.
votes: 0
Option 6: Westfield St.
votes: 1
Option 7: UMASS-Boston
votes: 1
Option 8: St. Joe's
votes: 1
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Should be called the Trinity invitational...I am guessing Regan will go on Wednesday, which will set up Kiely for the 2n dround and Bayer for the 3rd. I don't see anybody beating either of thsoe pitchers.
Biggest game I see is the potential 2nd round matchup of Keene vs. Wheaton.
No need to rush Kiely and throw him 3 days rest. Castleton St is likely the worst team in the tournament. I know there is no such thing as a sure thing, but Trinity will sleep walk through that game.
Keene plays st joes who beat keene in the bottom of the 9th at thier place this year. Keene will likely send Morin who was absolutely filth against eastern ct in the LEC playoff game. Tough, Tough regional, i see Wheaton and Trinity absolutley pounding worchester and castleton. How about three teams for the LEC this year. Crazy cant wait for the regional. Predictions. Im saying Keene upsets Wheaton in the finals. Thats right im saying that Trinity doesnt even make it to sat. Thats way out on a limb, but what the hell why not
Trinity is set up so well for this tourney, with most likely Regan going Wednesday against Castleton, Kiely against Southern Maine/WNEC, and Bayer in the third game.
Kiely against anyone's number 2 and Bayer against anyone's number 3 works very well for the Bants. It's hard to even say which one of these kids is better, but they're both flat out filthy. Also, Trinity's lineup now is just different than it was in March and April. Barnard and Sullivan are hitting the ball so well at the 7-8 spots, and Abbot has turned himself into a quality lead off hitter.
This is a complete team, if anyone is going to beat them they're going to have to have their pitcher have the best day of his season.
Thing is, I think WNEC might be one of the only teams in the region with the pitching to neutralize Trinity. Andersen and Pizzoferrato are both excellent arms, as Andersen is a 6'5 lefty throwing in the upper 80's and Pizzoferrato touches the low 90's. If they do get matched up with Trinity, I think it will be a classic pitcher's duel.
And if you can't be on the Cape, just be near your computer, and we'll have it all for you on D3Cast (http://d3cast.com).
-s
Word's predictions for the first day of the Chowda Fest in Harwich:
F, S, & HG vs White Castle State - Good Morning, Good Afternoon and Good Night F, S, & HG romps 121-(-3)
Wheaties vs Worst State - Wheaties really are breakfast of Champions as they pop Worst State 72-9.
Swampies vs Monks - despite nipping the Swampies in 10 in Maine, no home altar advantage here. Swampies prevail 6-5.
Muskies of Sullen Maine vs We Never Ever Close - In what on the surface looks to be the best match of the day fails to deliver as We Never Ever Close shakes off the rust a bit too late and succumbs to the bats of the Muskies 8-3.
Word
Harwich opener
Wnec over USM - Huskies crush bad pitching, that is not what they see here.
Trinity over Castleton - Pitch your best pitcher you have available!!!
Keene over St. Joes - Good match up, two scrappy teams
Wheaton over Worcester st - CMac has lots of tourney experience
Second round games are going to be VERY interesting!!!
Here are my predictions:
WNEC 7 USM 3
Trinity 19 Castleton 2
Keene 5 St. Joe's 7 (Upset Special)
Wheaton 8 Worcester St 2
After 2 1/2...WNEC 2 USM 0...
Anyone else having trouble with the d3cast link? I'm trying to distract myself at work. Who's pitching for both teams?
Rick, here is the link
http://www.d3cast.com/index.php
I think that is Schmidt for southern correct me if i am wrong hockey i dont know about WNEC i think its either anderson or the other top guy
1-0 wnec on a double, i am rooting for Southern Maine on this one, got to go with the LEC
2-0 Wnec, I am amazed at the Video Cast that Harwhich has. This is like watching the Sox on NESN, was it this good last year?
Quote from: KSCfan on May 14, 2008, 10:04:11 AM
Rick, here is the link
http://www.d3cast.com/index.php
I think that is Schmidt for southern correct me if i am wrong hockey i dont know about WNEC i think its either anderson or the other top guy
After 2 1/2...WNEC 2 USM 0...
Pitchers:Schmidt for USM, Pizafarato(sp) for WNEC...
After 3 1/2...WNEC 2 USM 0...
D3cast is great. It was just like this last year. This is the third year I have seen them broadcast the region. The score bar is great, they even have replays, each year they add new features, I wonder what they have added this year. Even if they haven't added anything, it is head and shoulders above anything other video casts I have seen, but I have to admit I haven't seen that many.
Agreed, the D3Cast is excellent. For a parent who could not make it to Harwich, it is a great way to see the games. I noticed this year they had a picture in picture box showing the base runner and the pitcher.
Schmidt out of another jam, very impressed with WNEC so far
After 4...WNEC 2 USM 1...
D3 cast is great: they do a ton of hockey games as well and they do them right...
anyone know the schedule for tommorow, obviously the 4 winners play and the 4 losers play but at what times?
Losers at 9:30 and 1, Winners at 4:30 and 8:00. Full schedule at ecacsports.com
2-1 Southern plays hit and run with a sac fly to cut it in half
9:30--USM/WNEC Loser vs Trin / CSC Loser
1:00--Keene / St. J Loser vs Wheaton / Worcester Loser
4:30--USM/WNEC Winner vs Trin / CSC Winner
8:00--Keene / St. J Winner vs Wheaton / Worcester Winner
thanks paul
does anyone have the actual link of the video. i can get to d3cast, but it says the video link does not exists.
http://pointers.audiovideoweb.com/asxfiles-live/il83winlive3149.asx
3-1 WNEC
3 errors for USM and a big strikezone: not good...And now I just lost the feed...
Lost it here two, coming in and out.
Does anyone have the feed???
I lost it to.
I closed it out and when back and now I get error messages.
Feed just came back. USM 5 WNEC 3 in top 7
I sent a note to the D3Cast crew on site and have not heard back. Came to this board to see if the problem was just me -- guess not.
Feed is working now...
After 6 1/2...WNEC 3 USM 5...
Now it's down again and now I am annoyed...
Wireless internet can be a fickle thing.
Back up.
3 Runs in the ninth for WNEC, tied 6-6
Missed all the action, got it back on to see the run score to tie it.
Back -- 6-6 Top 9, WNEC 1st, 2nd, 1 out
After 10...WNEC 6 USM 6
Can anyone give me an update. I lost track at 6-6 in the 10th.
I lost the feed as they were going into the 11th, tied obviously.
Quote from: wordsmith on May 14, 2008, 12:42:02 PM
Can anyone give me an update. I lost track at 6-6 in the 10th.
According to the USM website is 6-6 in the 12th..
Keep the updates coming! They don't let us watch video at work!
From the Sullen Maine site
Latest news
(May 14, 1:17 p.m.) Baseball
WNEC Downs Southern Maine 8-6 in 12 Innings at NCAA Regional Tourney
Huskies Play Opponent to be Determined on Thursday (9:30 a.m.)
Regional Tournament Being Played in Harwich, Mass.
More to follow Read more
Eastern losing 8-7 in bottom 8 to Montclair. If they lose, that's a rough morning for LEC.
Quote from: wordsmith on May 14, 2008, 01:23:18 PM
From the Sullen Maine site
Latest news
(May 14, 1:17 p.m.) Baseball
WNEC Downs Southern Maine 8-6 in 12 Innings at NCAA Regional Tourney
Huskies Play Opponent to be Determined on Thursday (9:30 a.m.)
Regional Tournament Being Played in Harwich, Mass.
More to follow Read more
Thanks...feed has popped in and out all morning/afternoon.
Burned by the Golden Bears!!
Wow! 12 innings in the first game of an 8-team bracket!
Burning up those pitching arms!
Well we didn't get to see the end of the WNEC USM game but at least it ended the way we all wanted it to.
Well at least the way I wanted it to end.
Exactly right Ralph, You have to imagine both teams are at a significant disadvantage here on in. Not just USM (losing extras in playoffs is heart breaking....) But WNEC is going to have tired bodies and tired enthusiasm, but have that first win- So HUGE in double elim. Working your way back through the losers bracket is an uphill battle.
Confirmed- Eastern lost to MSU.
With USM losing- could we see a Trifecta?? Maybe the NEWMAC should have had 3 bids in the tournament! Hah!
Is it 2 and Bar-B-Que for the Muskies?
Can We Never Ever Close bounce back from a 12 inning affair?
Is TEE offically NLTEE (No Longer The Evil Empire)?
Next up White Castle State vs FSHG. Viewer Discretion Advised
I rate this game an R.
Was any body watching the D3cast amazed by the size of the USM players, they were HUGE.
Regan on the hill for the Bants...
1-0 Castleton
Quote from: wordsmith on May 14, 2008, 02:04:24 PM
Is it 2 and Bar-B-Que for the Muskies?
Can We Never Ever Close bounce back from a 12 inning affair?
Is TEE offically NLTEE (No Longer The Evil Empire)?
Next up White Castle State vs FSHG. Viewer Discretion Advised
I rate this game an R.
So- uh.. What? R? FSHG? Please explain. Love your Linguistics Lately. Alliteration allows all (to enjoy)
Did somebody forget to throw their top pitcher????
P.S. USM is Huge. Mainah boys, them is big! I'm not going to go in the George Mitchell Report for this one though...
oh no, please don't think I was accusing USM of artificially enlarging their players, just commenting on how big they were in general.
I am pretty sure that Griglum, listed at 6'2" 195, was playing first for WNEC and everyone who got to first seemed bigger than him.
Like I said, that Sebago Lake water is packed full of proteins and Moose meat makes for strong bones. Forget what they told you about drinking milk. Moxie (maine's finest beverage next to Allen's Coffee Brandy) is what makes a mountain of a man.
Whatever they eat in the Keene area sure breeds a good hitter. Wow! They can hit! Anyone know how the last few innings went down in the WNEC-USM game?
From http://www.ecacsports.com/sports/spring/bsb/NCAA_Regional/2008/results
Day 1 Game Recaps
Western New England 8, Southern Maine 6 (12 innings)
Western New England struck first in the top of the third, getting a pair of runs on an RBI single by Steve Kearney and a Southern Maine error. The teams exchanged runs over the next two innings, and WNEC led 3-1 after batting in the fifth.
Down by two entering the bottom of the fifth, the Huskies connected for six hits in the inning and sent all nine batters to the plate. Eddie Skeffington ledoff the inning with a home run over the right-center fence. After two quick outs, USM tagged Western New England pitching for five consecutive singles and scored three more runs to take a 5-3 lead.
The Golden Bears trailed 6-3 entering the top of the ninth, but with five hits through the left side, were able to score three times to tie things up, 6-6.
The teams played two scoreless innings in the 10th and 11th, before WNEC tallied two runs in the top of the 12th. The Golden Bears capitalized on two singles and two walks to score their runs. Chris Anderson came in to pick up the save, recording two strikeouts in the bottom of the 12th.
Chris Newall led Western New England with a 4-for-5 day at the plate, while Justin Walz and Joe Griglun each added three hits.
Skeffington hit two home runs and went 4-for-6 on the day. Josh Mackey also batted 4-for-6 at the plate.
What a game!!!!
1-0 Castleton after 2.
Quote from: Paul Heering on May 14, 2008, 02:14:20 PM
Was any body watching the D3cast amazed by the size of the USM players, they were HUGE.
I talked to a gentleman at the LEC Tourney this past weekend. He stated he had watched UCONN, Dartmouth, Princeton, UMASS-Amherst and Columbia this spring and
none of the teams had anywhere near the size of the USM players.
I will also tell you that having had a very close relative play baseball at USM they truly emphasis the weight lifting program to the players. They have very specific nutrition and lifting plans with specific benchmarks to achieve. One other note, HOFEd likes to recruit naturally big kids. Station-to-station type of ball players. He likes that type of game.
Say what you like about the USM program, but 'roids don't cause a kid to grow taller, at least not to my knowledge. USM always has kids 6'2, 6'3, 6'5.
Word
1-1 Trinity Castleton after 3 innings
Castleton going to hang in there?
Quote from: wordsmith on May 14, 2008, 02:56:31 PM
Quote from: Paul Heering on May 14, 2008, 02:14:20 PM
Was any body watching the D3cast amazed by the size of the USM players, they were HUGE.
I talked to a gentleman at the LEC Tourney this past weekend. He stated he had watched UCONN, Dartmouth, Princeton, UMASS-Amherst and Columbia this spring and none of the teams had anywhere near the size of the USM players.
I will also tell you that having had a very close relative play baseball at USM they truly emphasis the weight lifting program to the players. They have very specific nutrition and lifting plans with specific benchmarks to achieve. One other note, HOFEd likes to recruit naturally big kids. Station-to-station type of ball players. He likes that type of game.
Say what you like about the USM program, but 'roids don't cause a kid to grow taller, at least not to my knowledge. USM always has kids 6'2, 6'3, 6'5.
Word
Well when I am down talking to the guys I seem to be average height and I am 6'3...
That win gives WNEC a clean sweep over the top three from the LEC this year, having handled ECONN and KSC during the regular season and USM now in the regional. Both of those earlier wins were come from behind as well. These young men do not give up.
Anderson probably will go tomorrow even after his 1 inning of work today.
Go BEARS!
After 4 1/2...CSC 3 Trinity 2...
There are a lot of big kids on that bench too. Lot's of spinach eating going on over there. USM Popeyes.
Castleton back on top 3-2 and threatening for more...
Trinity now up 5-3 and still hitting in bottom 5
After 7 1/2...CSC 4 Trinity 6
Is this score a little surprising? Who does Trinity have on the bump? What's the make up of this game? Sloppy?
Trinity started Regan, Bayer just came in with 2 on none out in the eighth. Sloppy game indeed, combined 6 errors by both teams thus far. Castleton starter walked 6 in 5 innings.
Looks like it is getting out of hand Trinity is tacking them on in 8th
8-4
Final...CSC 5 Trinity 9
Bants didn't have it today, looked flat at the plate. Kiely energizes that team when he pitches, so tomorrow I'd expect a cleaner game from them.
Final 9-5 Trinity
10 errors in the game...
Any predicitons for the score of the Keene State Saint Joseph's game?
I'll take SJC 5-4 over the Owls
I pick St. Joe's to win 7-5. But then again, yesterday I picked Trinity to win 19-2!
I'll go 16-6 Keene, but it will be close early
So far we are set up for tomorrow with...
9:30--USM vs Castleton State
1:00--TBD
4:30--WNEC vs Trinity
8:00--TBD
Take those start times with a grain of salt as they seem to always run behind.
Saint Joe's gets an infield single, a throwing error and then moved over on a ground ball to strand the guy at 3rd
Keirstead on the mound. Battle of southpaws.
0-0 top 3
Hey, thanks to everyone for the kind words. Trying to make it look as spiffy as possible... We did have some problems with our connectivity earlier -- of course it has to be at the most crucial times -- but hopefully they're all resolved now. My apologies to anyone who IM'd and I couldn't get back to you because we were scrambling. Great games so far...
-s
morin is just straight nasty again in the regional. He has put down 16 straight ST Joes hitters. At one point Morin struck out five looking, the announcers said over his last 27 innings 0 earned runs and 25 struck outs. Those aren't Conway numbers, THEY ARE BETTER !!!!!
I am really impressed with Morin, not only the results but the kid is working fast, free and easy. Doesn't look like he is even exerting himself out there. Which good pitchers can do.
Keirsted for St Joe's looks really good too (oops, as I typed that he gave up a three run home run) . Just on the wrong end of this one, so far.
Had to go play with the boat- what happened?
6-0 keene?
Three run home run for Ford.
Did you just say, go play with the boat? is that a euphemisms for something?
No, putting the mast up on the sailboat.... Hahah that still sounds bad.
Getting ready for the season!
Monks lose 6-1. 2out rally vs Morin falls short. Complete game 4 hits 13 k's.
Very impressive!
Monks can come back with a win over (most likely) worcester state
Quote from: D3Cast on May 14, 2008, 07:00:51 PM
Hey, thanks to everyone for the kind words. Trying to make it look as spiffy as possible... We did have some problems with our connectivity earlier -- of course it has to be at the most crucial times -- but hopefully they're all resolved now. My apologies to anyone who IM'd and I couldn't get back to you because we were scrambling. Great games so far...
-s
Great work as always. My question is when do we get the "Behind The Scenes Look at D3Cast"? Lets see the set up for those guys in the truck.
Scotty G From Wheaton hits a 2 run home run to tie the game up with two outs in the 9th inning. 3-3 extras wheaton vs worcester
Quote from: soxfan42585 on May 14, 2008, 11:30:43 PM
Scotty G From Wheaton hits a 2 run home run to tie the game up with two outs in the 9th inning. 3-3 extras wheaton vs worcester
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SP boy comes through in the clutch again! Probably the only player on Wheaton I cheer for.
Does anybody know where I can find a full schedule for the Harwich site?
Quote from: wordsmith on May 12, 2008, 03:44:25 PM
Word's predictions for the first day of the Chowda Fest in Harwich:
F, S, & HG vs White Castle State - Good Morning, Good Afternoon and Good Night F, S, & HG romps 121-(-3)
Wheaties vs Worst State - Wheaties really are breakfast of Champions as they pop Worst State 72-9.
Swampies vs Monks - despite nipping the Swampies in 10 in Maine, no home altar advantage here. Swampies prevail 6-5.
Muskies of Sullen Maine vs We Never Ever Close - In what on the surface looks to be the best match of the day fails to deliver as We Never Ever Close shakes off the rust a bit too late and succumbs to the bats of the Muskies 8-3.
Word
And off we go to Day 2 in Harwich on the CAPE.
Predictions:
HOFEdy stokes the boys from Sullen Maine to play hard one more day and they finish the season for White Castle State, but not without a fight Muskies 11-5;
Hardest Working Man in Baseball Coach Will has the Monks back on track as they pound Worst State 9-2;
F,S&HG continues their historic streak and down We Never Ever Close 5-3;
Ahhh the nightcap starting at about 10:30 tonight this match-up brings the Swampies vs the Wheaties. Wheaties get to Mabey early and often but Swampies sticks respond. Close through 6 but in the end the bullpen carries the day for EPod and the Wheaties 9-6.
Big Games today so excited. First of all with Anderson going against Trinity, WNEC and Trinity should be a great game. Secondly, the game of the day has to be Keene Wheaton, Keene beat Wheaton twice last year in the regional and im sure Wheaton is looking to send a mesage back to them, as well as advance in the all important winners bracket. I missed Worchester Wheaton yesterday i heard it was a great game. Predictions from the KSCFan are as follows for today
Southern Maine bashes Castleton 9-3- Southern Maine will throw Ross im assuming who should be to much for the Castleton bats, as well as i dont see Castletons #2 shutting down USM offense.
St. Joes beats Worchester State 6-4- Good game and im sure that St Joes will he very happy not to see Morin on the hill after he shut them down hard last night. St Joes is a good team and will get the win
UPSET ALERT WNEC over Trinity 1-0. - This game is going to last 1hr and 20 minutes because both starters Anderson and (Insert nasty Trinity pitcher name) are both just nasty. The big question for this game is bullpens. If one team can work pitch counts high and get the other starter out of the game they have the best shot at winning
Lastly I have Keene over Wheaton 7-2- The big question is if Maybe is going to be Maybe good or Maybe bad. When Maybe is off he is way off, when he is on hes like Morin, unhittable. Im saying Maybe is on today, he has a tendancy to pitch good in big situations. But, this game will be a batttttle.
What, is there like 1 fan watching the game in Harwich? Thing is I wish it was me. :'(
Anyone see the light tower get smashed? The movie The Natural comes to mind after that.
2-0 USM top of 2
The rout is on 5-0 Muskies still batting in the 2nd.
Bases loaded for Muskies with 1 out a chopper to 3rd gets by the fielder and 2 runs score, a wild pitch gets the runner home from 2nd when the catcher can't find the ball, long drive to left scores another. Roboleftfielder hits a stand-up triple scores another run..............
What o what is Castleton doing, leaving this kid in for a 5 spot. There is no tommorow pull this kid and try to get someone else to see if they can shut Maine down.
Now 7-0 in top 2 with runners on corners and still only 1 out. Finally a pitching change by Castleton.
Now 7-0 errors, hits, bobbles, hit batters, yikes this game now has a PG-13 rating.
HOFEddy needs to think about pitching. They are clearly dominating, does he go to the pen and throw a reliever and save his #2 for another day?
Correct me if i am wrong here, but i dont think thats Ross for Southern Maine. Going to the pen is not a bad idea, but i saw USM pen in the LEC tournament (Yikes), It might be worth it though to save this number 17 kid for later on. I think SOuthern's Bats can keep them comfortably ahead im going for the pen, Hockeyfan who is that pitching?
Whoops my mistake 17 is not pitching
Timmy Therrian
Flaherty must of heard us as Mike Eaton is now in to pitch
Quote from: wordsmith on May 15, 2008, 10:28:48 AM
Timmy Therrian
Yeah, he was the one who beat Keene last week...Sorry I just got the cast up and missed a lot...
Holmes is out there now which means everybody might get an inning...
After 6 1/2...USM 9 CSC 7...
7 run 6th for Castleton. It is now a game at 9 - 7 USM in the lead after 6 complete.
In the 8th...USM 12 CSC 7... It went down again: every time I turn this thing on, the cast goes down: I was able to watch 2 whole innings today!!!!
TEE was struggling with Grove City at one point trailed 5-2; TEE has since opened it up 10-5 in the bottom of the 7th.
After 8...USM 16 CSC 7
Muskies up 16-7 in a typical HOFEddy game, 3++ hours in length, puncutated with multiple 'strange encounters of the third base kind' with umpires, lots of station-to-station ball, and tons of runs with little pitching. Looks like Muskies move on to Friday.
Why is CSC trying to start a brawl with one of the biggest team in Baseball...Did they take a page from the hockey team???
Final...USM 16 CSC 7
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And off we go to Day 2 in Harwich on the CAPE.
Predictions:
HOFEdy stokes the boys from Sullen Maine to play hard one more day and they finish the season for White Castle State, but not without a fight Muskies 11-5;
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USM 16-7 weiners over White Castle State but not without a fight ;)
No hand shaking at the end of this tilt. Rockem' Sockem' Robots move onto Friday
Word
Quote from: hockeyfan77 on May 15, 2008, 12:27:52 PM
Why is CSC trying to start a brawl with one of the biggest team in Baseball...Did they take a page from the hockey team???
Was at work where the webcast is blocked, what did I miss? I was actually thinking during the WNEC USM game yesterday that I hoped a brawl didn't break out (not that it ever would) because if it did WNEC was in trouble, unless they were faster and could run away.
Quote from: Paul Heering on May 15, 2008, 12:58:55 PM
Quote from: hockeyfan77 on May 15, 2008, 12:27:52 PM
Why is CSC trying to start a brawl with one of the biggest team in Baseball...Did they take a page from the hockey team???
Was at work where the webcast is blocked, what did I miss? I was actually thinking during the WNEC USM game yesterday that I hoped a brawl didn't break out (not that it ever would) because if it did WNEC was in trouble, unless they were faster and could run away.
I am not sure cause the webcast was down but I saw the USM pitcher hit the catcher for CSC with a curve and the catcher started walking toward the mound, then the 1st baseman for CSC let a ball sail by him in between innings and it hit the USM base coach...A lot to do about nothing really...I just thought it was funny cause on the web here everybody was commenting on how big USM was...
Quote from: hockeyfan77 on May 15, 2008, 01:10:04 PM
Quote from: Paul Heering on May 15, 2008, 12:58:55 PM
Quote from: hockeyfan77 on May 15, 2008, 12:27:52 PM
Why is CSC trying to start a brawl with one of the biggest team in Baseball...Did they take a page from the hockey team???
Was at work where the webcast is blocked, what did I miss? I was actually thinking during the WNEC USM game yesterday that I hoped a brawl didn't break out (not that it ever would) because if it did WNEC was in trouble, unless they were faster and could run away.
I am not sure cause the webcast was down but I saw the USM pitcher hit the catcher for CSC with a curve and the catcher started walking toward the mound, then the 1st baseman for CSC let a ball sail by him in between innings and it hit the USM base coach...A lot to do about nothing really...I just thought it was funny cause on the web here everybody was commenting on how big USM was...
actually it was a fastball at the numbers that hit him. there were other encounters i believe about the stealing of signs. thats where this was originated from. SMU was running their mouths the entire game and being classless and the umpires had enough of it as well. the ball that hit the coach during warm ups was ridiculous. he came out of the duggout as if he was going to hit the first baseman. it was unintentional. he tried everything within himself to make the catch. you people need to open your eyes once in while and stop making excuses. SMU is a classless team. Castleton was tired of it and the brawl probably was out of the hockey page. Why show someone you're afraid of them? they looked like roided goons out there. good for castleton.
Wow, 7 runs in already for Worcester in top 1 with a 3 run homer and then a grand slam from no 9 hitter. St Joe's has a big hill to climb.
Quote from: Willie James Huff on May 15, 2008, 01:36:28 PM
Quote from: hockeyfan77 on May 15, 2008, 01:10:04 PM
Quote from: Paul Heering on May 15, 2008, 12:58:55 PM
Quote from: hockeyfan77 on May 15, 2008, 12:27:52 PM
Why is CSC trying to start a brawl with one of the biggest team in Baseball...Did they take a page from the hockey team???
Was at work where the webcast is blocked, what did I miss? I was actually thinking during the WNEC USM game yesterday that I hoped a brawl didn't break out (not that it ever would) because if it did WNEC was in trouble, unless they were faster and could run away.
I am not sure cause the webcast was down but I saw the USM pitcher hit the catcher for CSC with a curve and the catcher started walking toward the mound, then the 1st baseman for CSC let a ball sail by him in between innings and it hit the USM base coach...A lot to do about nothing really...I just thought it was funny cause on the web here everybody was commenting on how big USM was...
actually it was a fastball at the numbers that hit him. there were other encounters i believe about the stealing of signs. thats where this was originated from. SMU was running their mouths the entire game and being classless and the umpires had enough of it as well. the ball that hit the coach during warm ups was ridiculous. he came out of the duggout as if he was going to hit the first baseman. it was unintentional. he tried everything within himself to make the catch. you people need to open your eyes once in while and stop making excuses. SMU is a classless team. Castleton was tired of it and the brawl probably was out of the hockey page. Why show someone you're afraid of them? they looked like roided goons out there. good for castleton.
Bitter anyone... :D...Yes USM is has no class...They have 2 world series wins because they are classless...I am sure the 1st base coach(who I know very well) was going to come out and charge the first baseman...I mean why be satsified with beating the team badly on the scoreboard: have to beat them up too!!! ::)...That was probably the worst 1st post I have ever seen..The pitcher (Hanhn) doesn't even throw a real fastball!!!! He has two types of curves, a slider(which is what hit him)...Even when does throw a fastball it's curve speed(76 to 80)...Yes, everyone that goes to USM has to be a roided goon, we actually have classes on it... ::)
Final...WSC 14 St Joe's 4
Final...Trinity 7 WNEC 2
After 1...Wheaton 1 KSC 0
Quote from: hockeyfan77 on May 15, 2008, 02:09:29 PM
Quote from: Willie James Huff on May 15, 2008, 01:36:28 PM
Quote from: hockeyfan77 on May 15, 2008, 01:10:04 PM
Quote from: Paul Heering on May 15, 2008, 12:58:55 PM
Quote from: hockeyfan77 on May 15, 2008, 12:27:52 PM
Why is CSC trying to start a brawl with one of the biggest team in Baseball...Did they take a page from the hockey team???
Was at work where the webcast is blocked, what did I miss? I was actually thinking during the WNEC USM game yesterday that I hoped a brawl didn't break out (not that it ever would) because if it did WNEC was in trouble, unless they were faster and could run away.
I am not sure cause the webcast was down but I saw the USM pitcher hit the catcher for CSC with a curve and the catcher started walking toward the mound, then the 1st baseman for CSC let a ball sail by him in between innings and it hit the USM base coach...A lot to do about nothing really...I just thought it was funny cause on the web here everybody was commenting on how big USM was...
actually it was a fastball at the numbers that hit him. there were other encounters i believe about the stealing of signs. thats where this was originated from. SMU was running their mouths the entire game and being classless and the umpires had enough of it as well. the ball that hit the coach during warm ups was ridiculous. he came out of the duggout as if he was going to hit the first baseman. it was unintentional. he tried everything within himself to make the catch. you people need to open your eyes once in while and stop making excuses. SMU is a classless team. Castleton was tired of it and the brawl probably was out of the hockey page. Why show someone you're afraid of them? they looked like roided goons out there. good for castleton.
Bitter anyone... :D...Yes USM is has no class...They have 2 world series wins because they are classless...I am sure the 1st base coach(who I know very well) was going to come out and charge the first baseman...I mean why be satsified with beating the team badly on the scoreboard: have to beat them up too!!! ::)...That was probably the worst 1st post I have ever seen..The pitcher (Hanhn) doesn't even throw a real fastball!!!! He has two types of curves, a slider(which is what hit him)...Even when does throw a fastball it's curve speed(76 to 80)...Yes, everyone that goes to USM has to be a roided goon, we actually have classes on it... ::)
okay. first off. if that was a slider...then he needs to learn a new pitch because that was terrible. second of all. were you even at the game son? somebody has a bit of a man crush on smu. he came storming out of the duggout shouting like an 8 year old. he is classless and the entire team is too. im guessing you are as well seeing as how you fancy them like crazy. and no not all the players are roided goons, but when you people fantasize over them...its kind of obsessive and ridiculous. :) just because you win 2 world series wins doesnt make you non classless you clown. grow up.
Quote from: Willie James Huff on May 15, 2008, 08:53:51 PM
Quote from: hockeyfan77 on May 15, 2008, 02:09:29 PM
Quote from: Willie James Huff on May 15, 2008, 01:36:28 PM
Quote from: hockeyfan77 on May 15, 2008, 01:10:04 PM
Quote from: Paul Heering on May 15, 2008, 12:58:55 PM
Quote from: hockeyfan77 on May 15, 2008, 12:27:52 PM
Why is CSC trying to start a brawl with one of the biggest team in Baseball...Did they take a page from the hockey team???
Was at work where the webcast is blocked, what did I miss? I was actually thinking during the WNEC USM game yesterday that I hoped a brawl didn't break out (not that it ever would) because if it did WNEC was in trouble, unless they were faster and could run away.
I am not sure cause the webcast was down but I saw the USM pitcher hit the catcher for CSC with a curve and the catcher started walking toward the mound, then the 1st baseman for CSC let a ball sail by him in between innings and it hit the USM base coach...A lot to do about nothing really...I just thought it was funny cause on the web here everybody was commenting on how big USM was...
actually it was a fastball at the numbers that hit him. there were other encounters i believe about the stealing of signs. thats where this was originated from. SMU was running their mouths the entire game and being classless and the umpires had enough of it as well. the ball that hit the coach during warm ups was ridiculous. he came out of the duggout as if he was going to hit the first baseman. it was unintentional. he tried everything within himself to make the catch. you people need to open your eyes once in while and stop making excuses. SMU is a classless team. Castleton was tired of it and the brawl probably was out of the hockey page. Why show someone you're afraid of them? they looked like roided goons out there. good for castleton.
Bitter anyone... :D...Yes USM is has no class...They have 2 world series wins because they are classless...I am sure the 1st base coach(who I know very well) was going to come out and charge the first baseman...I mean why be satsified with beating the team badly on the scoreboard: have to beat them up too!!! ::)...That was probably the worst 1st post I have ever seen..The pitcher (Hanhn) doesn't even throw a real fastball!!!! He has two types of curves, a slider(which is what hit him)...Even when does throw a fastball it's curve speed(76 to 80)...Yes, everyone that goes to USM has to be a roided goon, we actually have classes on it... ::)
okay. first off. if that was a slider...then he needs to learn a new pitch because that was terrible. second of all. were you even at the game son? somebody has a bit of a man crush on smu. he came storming out of the duggout shouting like an 8 year old. he is classless and the entire team is too. im guessing you are as well seeing as how you fancy them like crazy. and no not all the players are roided goons, but when you people fantasize over them...its kind of obsessive and ridiculous. :) just because you win 2 world series wins doesnt make you non classless you clown. grow up.
No, I wasn't at the game, I beleive I said that in my last post...I don't need to be told about the game of baseball, my whole family has pretty much played it at the professional level...My uncle (who is 1 of USM assisant coaches) played for the Red Sox and I have a one brother who played D1 and another who made it too double A...I took the road least travled and decided I wanted to play hockey...I didn't quite make it and played D3...I am 30 years old and I have an 8 year old daughter so I really don't need to be called SON...You need to chill out, I never said anything bad about anybody, you are the one firing pot shots everywhere, I think you are the one that needs to grow up...
After 7...Wheaton 6 KSC 2
Is there any other way to follow these game besides the d3cast feed? Audio, live stat updates?
Not being able to stream videos on my network is killing me.
Hockeyfan i am going to have to side with you on this one. I know Southern Maine very well and i will say this about them. They are a very big team, there is no doubt about it, however to call the whole team roided goons is a little extreme. They are a good team that plays game hard, and to win. I do enjoy your posts hockeyfan and ol Willy has a little bit of sour grapes here. I personally got a chuckle out of his son comment. Southern Maine can get loud and boisterous and if you are not a fan of that, then just blow them out and they will be quiet. Otherwise just play ball
Quote from: Rick Vaughn on May 15, 2008, 10:25:42 PM
Is there any other way to follow these game besides the d3cast feed? Audio, live stat updates?
Not being able to stream videos on my network is killing me.
http://livestats.prestosports.com/ecac/: try this it's the live stats....
keene state is in a world of hurt right now down 6 to 2 to wheaton
Quote from: KSCfan on May 15, 2008, 10:28:08 PM
. I do enjoy your posts hockeyfan
Thank you...I try to be unbiased as possible...
After 8...Wheaton 7 KSC 2
Thanks for the link hockeyfan...as much as I enjoy your posts I do like to have a little more information than the score.
Quote from: Rick Vaughn on May 15, 2008, 10:40:16 PM
Thanks for the link hockeyfan...as much as I enjoy your posts I do like to have a little more information than the score.
No problem, I actually found it today by accident when the webcast went down during the USM game...
Final...Wheaton 12 KSC 2
Looks like Keene and USM will meet for a 6th time this year tomorrow...Should be fun...
Quote from: hockeyfan77 on May 15, 2008, 10:44:34 PM
Quote from: Rick Vaughn on May 15, 2008, 10:40:16 PM
Thanks for the link hockeyfan...as much as I enjoy your posts I do like to have a little more information than the score.
No problem, I actually found it today by accident when the webcast went down during the USM game...
That link has been on our Scoreboard page all day. People should make sure to use the tools we put on the site.
Quote from: Pat Coleman on May 15, 2008, 11:06:22 PM
Quote from: hockeyfan77 on May 15, 2008, 10:44:34 PM
Quote from: Rick Vaughn on May 15, 2008, 10:40:16 PM
Thanks for the link hockeyfan...as much as I enjoy your posts I do like to have a little more information than the score.
No problem, I actually found it today by accident when the webcast went down during the USM game...
That link has been on our Scoreboard page all day. People should make sure to use the tools we put on the site.
That's were I found it :P...
Phew. :)
Rick Vaughn -- follow the example.
Will do. I've just been so reliant on d3cast over the past few years to watch regionals that I forgot how to be resourceful.
So we get WNEC vs Worchester and Keene vs USM, then you have the winnerbrackets final with Wheaton and Trinity. Some great games today.
Here is KSCfans awful predictions that are never right for today
1. WNEC beats Worchester in a close one
2. Keene beats Southern Maine, i have seen Keene play Southern, Im assuming Ross is going for Southern and that Somberg for Keene. This game is going to be a battle big time, 5th time these two teams have played each other this year, this happened with Keene and Eastern last year as well.
3. Trinity and Wheaton- i have been anti Trinity all week why stop now, Wheaton takes it why not
Then in the nightcap, I will take Keene over Wheaton. I think that Keene's back end of pitching with Chevaliar and or Riley, and or Laplantes(depends on status) is going to be better than WNEC. But Keene has to get there first which is not going to be easy at all espically with SOuthern Maine.
In the end i guess it doesnt matter, because whoever wins todays winner bracket game is going to take this thing, just to many games you have to play if you are in the losers bracket in my opionion. Whoever wins the midnight game tonight must come back and play the first one sat. THat kills teams
After 1 WNEC 2 Worcester 0
Eye-see where the Muskies of Sullen Maine go up against the Swampies for the 6th time this year. Yikes.
Day 3 Predictions:
WNEC downs Worcester State
USM downs KSC in a really ugly battle HOFEddy pulls out all the stops, at least 1 coach gets thrown out of the game and numerous batters get plunked in this 4 hour affair
Trinity stays unbeaten and downs Wheaties
Word
After 2 innings WNEC leads 2 - 0
WNEC 2 - 0 after 3
Both teams score 2 in the 4th so after 4 innings WNEC leads 4 - 2
Worcester cuts the lead in half, 4 - 3 WNEC after 5.
WNEC puts up a 4 spot and now lead 8 - 3 after 6 complete.
7 innings in the book and WNEC still leads 8 - 3.
Final...WNEC 8 WSC 3
DING DING DING
LADIES AND GENTLEMEN - LEEEEEEEEEEEETTTTTTT'S GET READY TO RUUUUUUUMMMMMBBBBBBBBBBLE
In this corner weighing 183 pounds, from the deepest, darkest, swampest part of central Nu Hampsha and the reigning LEC Conference Champion - Keene State College managed by Francis Marion and Marty Testosterone.
And in this corner, hailing from the suburban back woods of South Portland Maine, and weighing 327 pounds - The University of Southern Maine managed by HOFEddy, Coached by 3rdBaseEddy, and led by CapatinEddy.
Anyone got a good title to this 6th match-up? Like Rumble in the Jungle for one of the Ali fights.
Word
After 1...KSC 0 USM 1
Here we go
Plunked batter #1
Southern Maine Hawks!!!
After 4 1/2...KSC 0 USM 1
Sketchy weather heading in
http://www.intellicast.com/National/Radar/OneKM.aspx?animate=true&location=USMA0046
Final...KSC 0 USM 8
Anthony D'Alfonso with his 14HR and 60 and 61RBI...
After 6...Wheaton 2 Trinity 5
^^^^ good luck to Trinity today as they go for that 40th win in a row. Being a former Marietta player from the 1999 team that set the record, I'm glad another team is able to experience that kind of "special" season.....hopefully it works out for them today!
Final...Wheaton 2 Trinity 6
40-0: that's pretty impressive...
I'll let Hockeyfan provide the final line and just add my congratulations to Trinity. Wish I could be there to witness this run in person.
Now it gets tricky for Trinity. Barnard is probably the most hittable guy they have and if he loses, I have no idea what they'll do in the final game.
Still, they are hitting the ball prety well, so in a slugfest, they'll more than hold their own.
I think part of Trinity's strength is the pitching after Barnard. Rappaport and McGrath are better than pitchers 5 and 6 for almost any other team. They can afford to lose a game and still work their way through the losers bracket. The 40-0 Bantams do not have to do that, but obviously they could. The team that would worry Trinity the most in a slugfest, Keene State, has been knocked out already.
Eye-see where the players and fans are leaving the park. Game off until Sat?
D3Cast screen indicates game postponed until noon on Saturday. My guess is winner plays Wheaton right after that at 3:30 and then championship will be on Sunday. That would give Trinity a day off tomorrow.
Quote from: rbgosfan on May 16, 2008, 08:06:26 PM
D3Cast screen indicates game postponed until noon on Saturday. My guess is winner plays Wheaton right after that at 3:30 and then championship will be on Sunday. That would give Trinity a day off tomorrow.
According to the ECAC website: you are right...
http://www.ecacsports.com/sports/spring/bsb/NCAA_Regional/2008/results
Overnight rain is pushing back todays games. First game now at 3:30 according to ECAC web site with second game at 7:00.
What have people who have been at the games been seeing? Is Trinity clearly the best team there and who has the best chance to beat them? We've had lots of great updates, but limited analysis.
I have been watching the entire tournament--Trinity is 4 deep in #1 arms and they now get a day off--when things are going right they continue to go right
The team hits, fields and pitches as well as any I have seen not only at the D-III level but any level--not even Diviion 1 teams have arms 4 deep like this team
Yes they are that good and in talking with many college coaches in the area they agree
After 6 1/2...USM 9 WNEC 0
Pike with his 9HR and Skeffington with his 9HR, 10HR and 11HR...
Put a fork in WNEC----> EddyCubed has just prepped, cooked and devoured the WNEC pitching staff.
EddyCubed moves onto face the EPod and the Wheaties.
After 8...USM 11 WNEC 0
Pike with his 9HR and Skeffington with his 9HR, 10HR and 11HR along with 6RBI
NLTEE just lost to RIP 14-13.
Last LEC team is EddyCubed.
Final...USM 11 WNEC 0
Pike with his 9HR and Skeffington with his 9HR, 10HR and 11HR...Ross a complete game SO...
TR's analysis of Trinity is spot on, although I still think their weakness is infield defense. Other than Graham, the infielders are average defensively. They have been known to kick it around at the wrong time...but when you've got the horses on the mound, an error here or there is easy to overcome.
Bostonian
Graham played with us on our travel team in HS and our infielders truly appreciated his glove at firstbase---he was also a good hitter then but his bat has improved tremendously
The Wheaton/Southern Maine game tonite should be a great one
Final...USM 9 Wheaton 3
Intreasting to note that Gaffney is not in the line-up for USM: must have pulled something last game...
HR: USM Herny(3)
Gutsy day of baseball from USM...Only used 2 pitchers, which can only help tomorrow...
I must commend Southern Maine for the shut out shut down performance in the last three games. They seem to be peaking at the right time. I hope this groove they are in carries them through to the WS. Go USM.
You're right KSCer... USM seems to be clicking... Good luck Southern vs Trinity
After 2...USM 0 Trinity 3
So what's up with the ball hit down the right field line ???
The right field ump signaled a foul ball. Butthe 1st base ump over-ruled him? was that the call or did I miss something?
HOFEddy went ballistic.
Quote from: wordsmith on May 18, 2008, 12:32:36 PM
So what's up with the ball hit down the right field line ???
The right field ump signaled a foul ball. Butthe 1st base ump over-ruled him? was that the call or did I miss something?
HOFEddy went ballistic.
That was the call but on the d3 replays you can't tell if it was fair or foul...
After 2 1/2...USM 0 Trinity 3
That was a very very very close call one pointed fair one pointed foul thats a big play early in the game
This one is going to be ugly...Too much to ask for the USM pitching staff when Herny and Burleson can't pitch...
Yah it is not looking good they can mash but vs the staff going to be tough to come back.
Final...USM 3 Trinity 10
D'Alfonso with his 15HR of the year and Pike his 10HR...
Nobody is going to touch Trinity(it's the best D3 team I have seen)...
DC3 Cast, just another wonderful job with the Harwich Regionals
It was a pleasure to watch!!!!
Congratulations to Trinity, who is for real. They have to be the favorite to win it all right? Thier pitching is absolutely amazing, best i have seen in d3, and i faced the Serfass/Depietro days.
Good job D3cast i really enjoyed watching the regional on your website. A+ for sure, is d3cast doing the World Series?
KCFan,
I will second that.
Trinity is for real!!! Good Luck in Wisconsin for thier first NESCAC D-III Baseball National Championship.
Quote from: KSCfan on May 18, 2008, 02:59:29 PM
Congratulations to Trinity, who is for real. They have to be the favorite to win it all right? Thier pitching is absolutely amazing, best i have seen in d3, and i faced the Serfass/Depietro days.
Good job D3cast i really enjoyed watching the regional on your website. A+ for sure, is d3cast doing the World Series?
I think D3Cast has been approached but it's a massive undertaking and I know they lose money on it. When we do games for the NCAA on audio, we also lose money, so I can't imagine what it's like doing video.
Now, that being said -- last year the folks who did video from Appleton did a fine job. I know we have one good baseball crew we could put together for an event like this (like we do for the football and basketball championships) but I do not think we would've done a better job calling the games than that group did.
Quote from: Pat Coleman on May 18, 2008, 08:06:11 PM
Quote from: KSCfan on May 18, 2008, 02:59:29 PM
Congratulations to Trinity, who is for real. They have to be the favorite to win it all right? Thier pitching is absolutely amazing, best i have seen in d3, and i faced the Serfass/Depietro days.
Good job D3cast i really enjoyed watching the regional on your website. A+ for sure, is d3cast doing the World Series?
I think D3Cast has been approached but it's a massive undertaking and I know they lose money on it. When we do games for the NCAA on audio, we also lose money, so I can't imagine what it's like doing video.
Now, that being said -- last year the folks who did video from Appleton did a fine job. I know we have one good baseball crew we could put together for an event like this (like we do for the football and basketball championships) but I do not think we would've done a better job calling the games than that group did.
Do you know if the D3 Championship will be online like it was last year???? If I over looked a link or something on the front page I am sorry...
As soon as there's a link we'll have it on the front page.
Quote from: Pat Coleman on May 19, 2008, 03:50:32 PM
As soon as there's a link we'll have it on the front page.
Thank you... :)
Let's resume discussion concerning the 2009 Regional on this board.
Regional at ECSU? If Eastern is in that regional does anyone want to walk into that bee's nest? Look out; its one of the toughest regions with the largest home field advantage, period. How many regionals has ECSU lost at home in the past 10 years?
There was a link on the D3baseball page for a New England Outlook, but I could not access it. If everyone has the same issue, perhaps the folks managing the site will notice this.
Old spartan- i dont think they have done the Eastern one yet, i tried accessing it as well and i couldnt get a link, maybe tommorow or the next day it will be posted
The New England preview isant available yet, every day or two they seem to preview a new region
Suffolk and Babson punch thier tickets to the land of Holowatty more coming this week and next!
NORTH DARTMOUTH, Mass. - The NCAA Division III Baseball Committee has chosen Eastern Connecticut State University and the Little East Conference to co-host the New England Region of the 2009 NCAA Division III Baseball Tournament. The Eastern Baseball Stadium in Mansfield, Conn. is just one of eight pre-determined sites for the national tournament field.
http://www.littleeast.com/sports/bsb/2009/News/20090420-bse-ncaa-ne-region
"The conference office is looking forward to assisting Eastern Connecticut in hosting the NCAA Division III Baseball New England Region, "Commissioner Jonathan C. Harper said. "It is our expectation that this regional will be a first-class event for student-athletes, coaches, parents and fans that will travel to Mansfield."
The Warriors will serve as the host institution for the 16th time in the 34-year history of the championship. The Eastern Baseball Stadium opened in April 1, 1998, and has hosted the New England Regional three prior times. The stadium is located just over the Willimantic city line, one-half mile north of the main campus.
The NCAA Division III Baseball Selection Committee is scheduled to announce the pairings for each of the eight regional fields the morning of Monday, May 11. The regional tournament will begin on Wednesday, May 13 and the champion will be crowned on Sunday, May 17. The championship team from the New England Region will advance to the 2009 NCAA Division III Championship Round in Appleton, Wisconsin.
If you are unable to make the trip to Mansfield, Conn., you can follow all the action live on the Little East Conference Web site. The tournament championship page will provide full coverage of the New England Region with a link for real-time statistics and video broadcast for each of the games. The Eastern Connecticut sports information staff will be running live in-game statistics, while Bridgewater Television (BTV9) will be producing each broadcast.
From 1976 through 1990, the national tournament was comprised of six-regional fields with the champion of each region advancing the NCAA Division III Championship Round. The Northeast and New York Regional Tournaments were established in 1991, expanding the field to the current-day eight-regional format. The New England tournament has been hosted by just three institutions besides Eastern Connecticut: The University of Southern Maine at both its on-campus facility in Gorham and at Hadlock Field in Portland - the home of the Double A Eastern League franchise, the Eastern Collegiate Athletic Conference (ECAC) at Whitehouse Field in Harwich, Mass., and Wesleyan University at Palmer Field in Middletown, Conn. Since 1998, the regional tournament has been staged in either Mansfield or Harwich.
Other sites for the 2009 NCAA Division III Regional are as follows: Augustana College (Ill.) (Central Region), Adrian College (Mideast Region), University of Wisconsin-Oshkosch (Midwest Region), State University of College at Old Westbury and the Skyline Conference (New York Region), Salisbury University (South Region), and Linfield College (West Region). The Mid-Atlantic Region has yet to be assigned.
Curry lost its first game of the CCC tournament. YOu might end up with Eastern, USM, Curry, and Wheaton all looking for at large bids into the tournament!!!!!!
Quote from: KSCfan on April 30, 2009, 12:49:10 PM
Curry lost its first game of the CCC tournament. YOu might end up with Eastern, USM, Curry, and Wheaton all looking for at large bids into the tournament!!!!!!
That certainly sets up some interesting possibilities. Wouldn't you like to be a fly on the wall for that selection meeting ;)
Quote from: KSCfan on April 30, 2009, 12:49:10 PM
Curry lost its first game of the CCC tournament. YOu might end up with Eastern, USM, Curry, and Wheaton all looking for at large bids into the tournament!!!!!!
Eastern AND USM looking for Pool C bids ??? I guess someone thinks a team other than previously mentioned teams will win the LEC Tourney! Always a possibility for one, but not likely that both are looking from outside in ::)
Just my crazy thoughts, and no the wacky weed has not ready to pick yet :D
Oh no i dont think that both will be looking on from the out. I was just saying that if the #3 seed of the LEC tournament was to win, then USM, Curry, Wheaton, and Eastern would all be battling for the at larges, which i personally think USM and Eastern would get, and Keene gets shipped to NY.
Can i just say that i would not mind getting shipped to NY. I think that the NE regional is harder year in and year out than the NY. For every Cortland you have USM. ECSU, Wheaton, Trinity, Keene, WNEC, Babson(thats for you Moc)etc.
Babson and Suffolk are in with Pool A bids. Trinity and Maine are in, ECSU looks good unless they fall on thier face and get the swine flu.... I think. Thats four maybe five who will the others be?
Quote from: DGilblair on May 01, 2009, 06:18:11 PM
Babson and Suffolk are in with Pool A bids. Trinity and Maine are in, ECSU looks good unless they fall on thier face and get the swine flu.... I think. Thats four maybe five who will the others be?
This is how I see things shaking out, with the automatic qualifiers factoring in, as well.
Automatic bids:
NEWMAC: Babson - already wrapped up.
GNAC: Suffolk - already wrapped up.
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MASCAC: Bridgewater State - BSC looks to be in the driver's seat, as they're in the winners bracket as the #2 seed. #1 seed Worcester State will have a tough go of it after losing yesterday.
LEC: Southern Maine - #1 team in the nation has this locked up, in my opinion.
NAC: Castleton State - Don't see any reason why the #1 seed and last year's qualifier shouldn't get it again this year.
TCCC: WNEC - The Golden Bears are in the driver's seat in the on-going TCCC tournament, and I think they earn the automatic bid for the 2nd consecutive year.
NESCAC: Trinity - Probably the surest bet to earn a Pool A bid aside from the two who already have.
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Alright, so if things go as planned, it looks like the 7 automatic bids in NE are awarded to the teams above. That leaves the following teams awaiting word for Pool C bids, based on yesterday's regional rankings.
Eastern Connecticut
Wheaton
Curry
WPI
Williams
Worcester State
Assuming the above all plays out that way, I foresee New England being awarded 2 at-large bids, with 1 of the 9 New England teams being shipped to New York. In this scenario, here's how I think it breaks down.
The at-large bids are awarded to:
1. Eastern Connecticut
2. Wheaton/Curry (The former being the more likely pick, the latter the more deserving)
Assuming all of this happens, here's what I think happens re: regionals.
New England Regional @ Eastern Connecticut
1. Southern Maine
2. Eastern Connecticut
3. Wheaton/Curry
4. Suffolk
5. WNEC
6. Babson
7. Bridgewater State
8. Castleton State
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Trinity College, the automatic qualifier from the NESCAC, is shipped to Farmingdale, NY for the New York regional as the #1 seed. Hartford, CT is just 133 miles from Farmingdale, well within the 500 mile limit.
TheGNAC,
My lights were ah flickern' and now I knowed why, your dadburn crystal ball was workin' overtime to come up with this.
Thanks again.
Word
GNAC, you really think they would ship Trinity out? I think they would send someone ranked lower in NE than Trinity. Babson must be within a couple hundred miles. Not so sure about Wheaton either, their #1 and 2 guys got whacked pretty good this week, and they lost to UMD.....oh wait so did ECSU....never mind.
Quote from: DGilblair on May 01, 2009, 07:20:15 PM
GNAC, you really think they would ship Trinity out? I think they would send someone ranked lower in NE than Trinity. Babson must be within a couple hundred miles.
I think the NCAA needs to take into consideration the relative strengths of the region. Why put 3 of the top 10 schools in the country in one region? If you ship a school like Babson or Castleton to New York, it's really all for naught, as they'd have a difficult time winning more than 1 or 2 games there. Personally, I think you need to spread out the top talent when applicable, and this is the perfect time, considering the relative strengths of NE vs. NY. Personally, I think any of the top 6 or so schools in NE would have an excellent shot at winning the NY regional. Place Trinity in the NY region, and suddenly that region becomes much more competitive.
Quote from: TheGNAC on May 01, 2009, 07:24:17 PM
Quote from: DGilblair on May 01, 2009, 07:20:15 PM
GNAC, you really think they would ship Trinity out? I think they would send someone ranked lower in NE than Trinity. Babson must be within a couple hundred miles.
I think the NCAA needs to take into consideration the relative strengths of the region. Why put 3 of the top 10 schools in the country in one region? If you ship a school like Babson or Castleton to New York, it's really all for naught, as they'd have a difficult time winning more than 1 or 2 games there. Personally, I think you need to spread out the top talent when applicable, and this is the perfect time, considering the relative strengths of NE vs. NY. Personally, I think any of the top 6 or so schools in NE would have an excellent shot at winning the NY regional. Place Trinity in the NY region, and suddenly that region becomes much more competitive.
So if they only win one or two in NY how many do they win in NE? How about WNEC or Bridgewater? I just think wiyh Trinitys ranking they will keep them home and on Campus maybe if they wanted.
Quote from: DGilblair on May 01, 2009, 07:30:19 PM
Quote from: TheGNAC on May 01, 2009, 07:24:17 PM
Quote from: DGilblair on May 01, 2009, 07:20:15 PM
GNAC, you really think they would ship Trinity out? I think they would send someone ranked lower in NE than Trinity. Babson must be within a couple hundred miles.
I think the NCAA needs to take into consideration the relative strengths of the region. Why put 3 of the top 10 schools in the country in one region? If you ship a school like Babson or Castleton to New York, it's really all for naught, as they'd have a difficult time winning more than 1 or 2 games there. Personally, I think you need to spread out the top talent when applicable, and this is the perfect time, considering the relative strengths of NE vs. NY. Personally, I think any of the top 6 or so schools in NE would have an excellent shot at winning the NY regional. Place Trinity in the NY region, and suddenly that region becomes much more competitive.
So if they only win one or two in NY how many do they win in NE? How about WNEC or Bridgewater? I just think wiyh Trinitys ranking they will keep them home and on Campus maybe if they wanted.
The campus argument is a valid point, and could definitely play into the selection committee's decision. Still, I think the NCAA should separate USM/ECSU/Trinity, as any of those 3 teams are the #1 seed in both New York and the Mid-Atlantic. I don't think it's fair that those 3 teams have to be in the same region while a lesser team like Cortland State has a free pass to the College World Series.
I suppose you can switch Trinity with Southern Maine, and ship the boys from USM to Farmingdale, as the trip from Portland to Farmingdale is 332 miles. Not exactly the field goal that Trinity's trip would be, but still, close enough.
Quote from: TheGNAC on May 01, 2009, 07:35:59 PM
Quote from: DGilblair on May 01, 2009, 07:30:19 PM
Quote from: TheGNAC on May 01, 2009, 07:24:17 PM
Quote from: DGilblair on May 01, 2009, 07:20:15 PM
GNAC, you really think they would ship Trinity out? I think they would send someone ranked lower in NE than Trinity. Babson must be within a couple hundred miles.
I think the NCAA needs to take into consideration the relative strengths of the region. Why put 3 of the top 10 schools in the country in one region? If you ship a school like Babson or Castleton to New York, it's really all for naught, as they'd have a difficult time winning more than 1 or 2 games there. Personally, I think you need to spread out the top talent when applicable, and this is the perfect time, considering the relative strengths of NE vs. NY. Personally, I think any of the top 6 or so schools in NE would have an excellent shot at winning the NY regional. Place Trinity in the NY region, and suddenly that region becomes much more competitive.
So if they only win one or two in NY how many do they win in NE? How about WNEC or Bridgewater? I just think wiyh Trinitys ranking they will keep them home and on Campus maybe if they wanted.
The campus argument is a valid point, and could definitely play into the selection committee's decision. Still, I think the NCAA should separate USM/ECSU/Trinity, as any of those 3 teams are the #1 seed in both New York and the Mid-Atlantic. I don't think it's fair that those 3 teams have to be in the same region while a lesser team like Cortland State has a free pass to the College World Series.
I suppose you can switch Trinity with Southern Maine, and ship the boys from USM to Farmingdale, as the trip from Portland to Farmingdale is 332 miles. Not exactly the field goal that Trinity's trip would be, but still, close enough.
If they look at the same as you do I think Trinity would be the one then, especially if USM wins the tourney too. I don't think they would ship the host team.
DGilblair......
SHUSHHHHH... you really don't want to have to give someone else the personal "hill" liscence to someone else, do you? But then again if it's a free pass to Appleton ... I'm mapquesting to Farmingdale.
DGilblair & TheGNAC:
Great points. Wouldn't it be great for NE if the top 3 did get split up. 1 staying home, 1 to NY and 1 to Mid-Atlantic. Distinct possibility of 3 NE teams making the trip to Wisc.
I know it's a long long shot and it won't happen but it would sure be great for NE D3 baseball.
It'll be a great regional if all 3 are left in NE but it wouldn't be bad to spread the wealth around. ;D
Quote from: ecfaninri on May 01, 2009, 09:03:16 PM
DGilblair......
SHUSHHHHH... you really don't want to have to give someone else the personal "hill" liscence to someone else, do you? But then again if it's a free pass to Appleton ... I'm mapquesting to Farmingdale.
Been there and it's an easy ride, I'm game. I think we could even get Alum to make that trip.
DGilblair.....
Your're right.... Let's talk to Alum about it tomorrow.
Quote from: Stump on May 01, 2009, 09:10:55 PM
DGilblair & TheGNAC:
Great points. Wouldn't it be great for NE if the top 3 did get split up. 1 staying home, 1 to NY and 1 to Mid-Atlantic. Distinct possibility of 3 NE teams making the trip to Wisc.
I know it's a long long shot and it won't happen but it would sure be great for NE D3 baseball.
It'll be a great regional if all 3 are left in NE but it wouldn't be bad to spread the wealth around. ;D
That would be pretty cool, but you're right it won't happen. Whoever comes out of the regional will be tested thats for sure.
Farmingdale State! We could all meet-up at the Bridgeport-Port Jefferson Ferry and take a little "cruise" at the same time ;).
No brainer, if ECSU in NY Regional, I AM THERE!!!!
As a matter of fact if ECSU in NJ Regional, I am there. My better half is from NJ 8)
Quote from: ECSUalum on May 02, 2009, 11:05:37 PM
Farmingdale State! We could all meet-up at the Bridgeport-Port Jefferson Ferry and take a little "cruise" at the same time ;).
No brainer, if ECSU in NY Regional, I AM THERE!!!!
As a matter of fact if ECSU in NJ Regional, I am there. My better half is from NJ 8)
ECSUAlum,
Having met you, with all due respect, any half would be a better half. :D
Just kidding, just kidding, I'll bet your better half is a really nice guy.
Word 8)
Guess I was asking for that one ;D
Quote from: TheGNAC on May 01, 2009, 06:31:46 PM
NAC: Castleton State - Don't see any reason why the #1 seed and last year's qualifier shouldn't get it again this year.
I don't think there is an AQ for the NAC this year. Last year they dropped below the 7 teams needed and I think they got one year to get back to 7 teams. They did not, so no AQ this year. I think they are combining forces with the NEAC next year to get the AQ back. But I am pretty sure even though Husson won the NAC tourney they will not be in Mansfield this year.
Quote from: Paul Heering on May 03, 2009, 06:43:23 PM
Quote from: TheGNAC on May 01, 2009, 06:31:46 PM
NAC: Castleton State - Don't see any reason why the #1 seed and last year's qualifier shouldn't get it again this year.
I don't think there is an AQ for the NAC this year. Last year they dropped below the 7 teams needed and I think they got one year to get back to 7 teams. They did not, so no AQ this year. I think they are combining forces with the NEAC next year to get the AQ back. But I am pretty sure even though Husson won the NAC tourney they will not be in Mansfield this year.
This is the last year they have an AQ. Both conferences were going to lose their AQ next year. Now they will play separate division schedules. The divisions will hold a championship touney and the winners will meet in a 2out of 3 tourney to determine the AQ which will be the NEAC spot.
http://www.nacathletics.com/news/NEAC_partnership
Quote from: Stump on May 03, 2009, 07:00:59 PM
Quote from: Paul Heering on May 03, 2009, 06:43:23 PM
Quote from: TheGNAC on May 01, 2009, 06:31:46 PM
NAC: Castleton State - Don't see any reason why the #1 seed and last year's qualifier shouldn't get it again this year.
I don't think there is an AQ for the NAC this year. Last year they dropped below the 7 teams needed and I think they got one year to get back to 7 teams. They did not, so no AQ this year. I think they are combining forces with the NEAC next year to get the AQ back. But I am pretty sure even though Husson won the NAC tourney they will not be in Mansfield this year.
This is the last year they have an AQ. Both conferences were going to lose their AQ next year. Now they will play separate division schedules. The divisions will hold a championship touney and the winners will meet in a 2out of 3 tourney to determine the AQ which will be the NEAC spot.
http://www.nacathletics.com/news/NEAC_partnership
Good job Stump! You beat me to that one! +1!
My mistake, sorry about that one.
With that info and the MASCAC tourney going final it looks like we have five New England Teams in...
Suffolk--GNAC AQ
Babson--NEWMAC AQ
WNEC--TCCC AQ
Westfield--MASCAC AQ
Husson--NAC AQ
I think
The NE regional is shapping up to be very strong, espically if the teams that were talked about before get in as well. I really dont know who will get shipped out. I think that it might be westfield, or a castleton which will likely help the likes of Cortland as those teams are not of the quality as say a trinity or what not. If you see an upset in the LEC tournament by the likes of KSC or UMB then you could very well see them get shipped out, as well as the likes of Curry and Wheaton on the outside looking in. IF you are Curry then you need to have your USM,Trinity, and Eastern hats on!!!
Quote from: Paul Heering on May 03, 2009, 07:57:47 PM
My mistake, sorry about that one.
With that info and the MASCAC tourney going final it looks like we have five New England Teams in...
Suffolk--GNAC AQ
Babson--NEWMAC AQ
WNEC--TCCC AQ
Westfield--MASCAC AQ
Husson--NAC AQ
I think
Please bear (or perhaps, Golden Bear) with me, I am Gump-Like on certain things:
This much we know about the NE Regional 8 spots are available.
These teams are in (numbers are for count not seeding)
1) Suffolk--GNAC AQ
2) Babson--NEWMAC AQ
3) WNEC--TCCC AQ
4) Westfield--MASCAC AQ
5) Husson--NAC AQ
6) Williams - NESCAC AQ
7) LEC rep (champ or otherwise -assumption here)
8 - ??
This is my question and I know there has been a lot of discussion here-->
is there another AQ I am missing?
Sorry
Forrest Gump ???
Quote from: wordsmith on May 04, 2009, 01:53:35 PM
Quote from: Paul Heering on May 03, 2009, 07:57:47 PM
My mistake, sorry about that one.
With that info and the MASCAC tourney going final it looks like we have five New England Teams in...
Suffolk--GNAC AQ
Babson--NEWMAC AQ
WNEC--TCCC AQ
Westfield--MASCAC AQ
Husson--NAC AQ
I think
Please bear (or perhaps, Golden Bear) with me, I am Gump-Like on certain things:
This much we know about the NE Regional 8 spots are available.
These teams are in (numbers are for count not seeding)
1) Suffolk--GNAC AQ
2) Babson--NEWMAC AQ
3) WNEC--TCCC AQ
4) Westfield--MASCAC AQ
5) Husson--NAC AQ
6) Williams - NESCAC AQ
7) LEC rep (champ or otherwise -assumption here)
8 - ??
This is my question and I know there has been a lot of discussion here--> is there another AQ I am missing?
Sorry
Forrest Gump ???
Word,
Has Williams qualified? I thought the NESCAC Tourney starts this weekend???
May 3, 2009
Williams Hosts Baseball Championship Beginning Friday
HADLEY, Mass. – After securing the top seed in the West Division with an 8-5 win over rival Amherst on Sunday, Williams College will host the 2009 NESCAC Baseball Championship from May 8-10 in Williamstown, Mass. The Ephs, who already have two conference crowns to their credit, will face Tufts on Friday afternoon, while defending NESCAC and NCAA champion Trinity will take on rival Wesleyan. The double-elimination tournament continues on Saturday, May 9 and concludes on Sunday, May 10 at 10:00 a.m.
Thanks, See this is why I need you guys. I read they beat Amherst, did not read further to understand the road continues for the NESCAC.,
So revised then we have this look, and my question remains ---> Is there another AQ looming out there I have missed?
1) Suffolk--GNAC AQ
2) Babson--NEWMAC AQ
3) WNEC--TCCC AQ
4) Westfield--MASCAC AQ
5) Husson--NAC AQ
6) NESCAC AQ
7) LEC rep (champ or otherwise -assumption here)
8 - ??
7 & 8, and possibly a shipment to NY comes down to - Trinity, if they don't AQ, USM/ESC/KSC, Wheaton, Curry, WPI...looks like a strong ECAC this year.
Word ???
Quote from: wordsmith on May 04, 2009, 02:08:55 PM
Thanks, See this is why I need you guys. I read they beat Amherst, did not read further to understand the road continues for the NESCAC.,
So revised then we have this look, and my question remains ---> Is there another AQ looming out there I have missed?
1) Suffolk--GNAC AQ
2) Babson--NEWMAC AQ
3) WNEC--TCCC AQ
4) Westfield--MASCAC AQ
5) Husson--NAC AQ
6) NESCAC AQ
7) LEC rep (champ or otherwise -assumption here)
8 - ??
7 & 8, and possibly a shipment to NY comes down to - Trinity, if they don't AQ, USM/ESC/KSC, Wheaton, Curry, WPI...looks like a strong ECAC this year.
Word ???
Word,
this is how I see things breaking down.
LEC: Southern Maine defeats ECSU in the LEC final, earning the AQ. ECSU receives an at-large bid.
NESCAC: Trinity rolls through the tourney, AQ.
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1. Southern Maine
2. Eastern Connecticut
3. Suffolk
4. WNEC
5. Curry
6. Westfield State
7. Babson
8. Husson
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Notice I haven't listed Trinity, as I feel they will be "forced" to make the 90 minute trek to Farmingdale, NY as the New York regional's #1 seed. Cortland State, the #1 ranked team in New York, is IMO a #4 seed in New England. The committee should ship one of USM/ECSU/Trinity out, and the Bantams make the most sense.
Also, you'll notice Wheaton isn't in the NE Regional. I simply feel they have played their way out of the regionals down the stretch. I feel the Pool C bids look like this:
1. LEC runner-up
2. Curry
3. Wheaton
Curry's record > Wheaton's, and they also won the head-to-head matchup 5-0.
Just my $.02.
Quote from: TheGNAC on May 04, 2009, 02:22:12 PM
Quote from: wordsmith on May 04, 2009, 02:08:55 PM
Thanks, See this is why I need you guys. I read they beat Amherst, did not read further to understand the road continues for the NESCAC.,
So revised then we have this look, and my question remains ---> Is there another AQ looming out there I have missed?
1) Suffolk--GNAC AQ
2) Babson--NEWMAC AQ
3) WNEC--TCCC AQ
4) Westfield--MASCAC AQ
5) Husson--NAC AQ
6) NESCAC AQ
7) LEC rep (champ or otherwise -assumption here)
8 - ??
7 & 8, and possibly a shipment to NY comes down to - Trinity, if they don't AQ, USM/ESC/KSC, Wheaton, Curry, WPI...looks like a strong ECAC this year.
Word ???
Word,
this is how I see things breaking down.
LEC: Southern Maine defeats ECSU in the LEC final, earning the AQ. ECSU receives an at-large bid.
NESCAC: Trinity rolls through the tourney, AQ.
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1. Southern Maine
2. Eastern Connecticut
3. Suffolk
4. WNEC
5. Curry
6. Westfield State
7. Babson
8. Husson
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Notice I haven't listed Trinity, as I feel they will be "forced" to make the 90 minute trek to Farmingdale, NY as the New York regional's #1 seed. Cortland State, the #1 ranked team in New York, is IMO a #4 seed in New England. The committee should ship one of USM/ECSU/Trinity out, and the Bantams make the most sense.
Also, you'll notice Wheaton isn't in the NE Regional. I simply feel they have played their way out of the regionals down the stretch. I feel the Pool C bids look like this:
1. LEC runner-up
2. Curry
3. Wheaton
Curry's record > Wheaton's, and they also won the head-to-head matchup 5-0.
Just my $.02.
Your take matches mine perfectly. I would only add that I don't see Wheaton (or WPI) for that matter making a compelling enough case to expand the New York Regional to accomodate them. I think Wheaton will be one of the very best teams on the sidelines this year.
I know that the NCAA tournament is ultimate goal for all of these New England powerhouses, but would these teams accept an ECAC bid if they do not get an at large NCAA bid? I know that some program decline ECAC's because it is "beneath" them, which I can understand to a point if your team has won national championships or close to it in the past. I guess I am wondering if 2009 could be the best ECAC tournament in years?
Knuckles
I do not ever remember ECSU playing in an ECAC baseball tournament.
I think your comments are accurate for the most part for the NE nationally ranked teams
I actually don't understand why more teams don't want to play in the ECAC tournament. I think it is a good chance to get a few more wins in before the NCAA tournament field is chosen. The field this year is as follows...
1. WPI
2. Worcester State
3. Castleton State
4. Wentworth
5. Castleton State
6. Plymouth State
So much for it being the best field ever.
The tournament starts this week and finishes this weekend, which is why you don't get too many LEC and NESCAC teams in the tourney, as it conflicts with the conference tournament.
If you got the best teams that aren't playing in a conference tournament this weekend or already received an AQ in this tournament it may look like this
1. Curry
2. Wheaton
3. WPI
4. Worcester
5. St. Joe's Maine
6. Roger Williams
The winner of this tournament would be almost guaranteed to add two more in region quality wins to their resume (it is a single elimination tournament)
I know teams have played in both before (Brandies and Suffolk come to mind) but I am guessing it is frowned upon to play in this tournament if you already have an AQ to the NCAA (probably more kosher to let other teams play)
You also run into the problem of this being finals week at some schools and they usually do not want games during finals week. If WNEC had lost to Curry Sunday, I doubt they could have played in the ECAC because of finals.
Hey guys, I've been reading the boards the past couple of months and enjoyed the analysis and breakdowns of everything, pretty cool that D3 gets this attention considering the emphasis on academics rather than athletics like D1 and wanted to say thanks to the guys who keep this going and maintained. Thanks.
That being said I have been following the regional breakdowns and the automatic qualifiers and what not and the potential at large teams and was wondering why Wheaton is seemingly written to be out by most? Granted you guys probably know a lot more of the regional teams and how the committee decides and what not but I was doing a little research and this is what I came up with and believe me, criticism is welcome.
I believe that Trinity runs through their conference unimpeded and qualifies and one of the two, ECSU or USM, will win the LEC with the other getting an at large bid. Then it seems as if it comes down to Curry and Wheaton for the second bid and it seems a lot of people are writing Curry in without looking at some other things the committee may look at:
• Win-loss percentage against regional opponents.
• Strength-of-schedule (only contests versus regional competition).
- Opponents' Average Winning Percentage (OWP).
- Opponents' Opponents' Average Winning Percentage (OOWP).
• See Appendix B for explanation of OWP and OOWP calculations.
• In-region head-to-head competition.
• In-region results versus common regional opponents.
• In-region results versus regionally ranked teams.
• Ranked opponents are defined as those teams ranked at the time of the rankings/
selection process only.
(Got that from a previous post)
Curry is 37-7 (30-6 in region) and Wheaton is 30-12 (27-11 in region)
1.) Curry played Wheaton whom they beat 5-0 and they played Babson whom they beat 10-3, they played Johnson and Wales who they beat 13-3, and all of their other wins come within conference excluding their spring break trip, but comparing Wheaton's spring break with Curry's isn't even a question on whos was tougher and Wheaton seemingly dominated their spring break trip. I don't recognize some of the teams from Curry's spring break and I don't know if their top D3 programs or other divisions, I do know however, Hopkins, TCNJ, St. Cloud State, WNEC are all very good D3 and one very good D2 team. Basically my point here is that if Wheaton and Curry switch conferences and they play each other's schedule meaning majority in conference games for Wheaton in the CCC what would Wheaton's in-region/overall record look like compared to that of Curry's?
2.) The teams that Curry did schedule out of conference, Wheaton, Johnson and Wales, Babson, Rhode Island College, Bridgewater State. Curry beat Wheaton, Johnson and Wales, and Babson, but lost to Rhode Island College, and Bridgewater State. Wheaton this year has beaten Rhode Island College (2) and Bridgewater State (1).
3.) Within Curry's conference Wheaton has defeated Western New England College (2), Endicott (1) with Curry losing to Western New England and Endicott. Curry beat Babson who defeated Wheaton so I would say Wheaton beating WNEC and Curry beating Babson evens that out.
4.) Finally, Wheaton's losses come from the likes of Econn, USM, Suffolk, Curry, and Umass Dartmouth (who also beat Econn, even a broken clock is right twice a day, right?) Curry can't say what "good" losses they have, because they really didn't play any of out of conference regionally/nationally ranked teams besides Wheaton at the time. And I looked at the box score and it seems as if, and correct me if I'm wrong, Curry had thrown their ace while Wheaton threw their 3 or 4 guy, by stats. I know this makes no difference in assessing an at large-bid but some people have talked about the "human element," that could be a consideration of that element.
- I guess what I'm trying to put forth here is if these two teams flip flop schedules and Wheaton played Curry's schedule in Curry's conference and vice versa, I think people would be singing a different tune. I do have a little bias towards teams that schedule difficult teams, put together a 30 win season, and get placed below a team that did not really challenge themselves, for lack of a better phrase. But do not misinterupt me, I think Curry had a phenomenal year and is deserving if they get an at large, but I do believe both teams would have a gripe if one or the other is left out for an at large, just because Wheaton's schedule was just that much tougher. Just thought I would place my .02$ in, as GNAC would say. Please feel free to correct me, I'm just getting started with this whole D3 thing. Have a good day fellas.
I just got done looking at the d3baseball.com top 25 poll and it looks like, for the present poll, Wheaton has played 7 teams ranked and/or receiving votes for the top 25 NATIONALLY while Curry has played 2, one of them being Wheaton and the other being WNEC. Just an after thought after seeing the top 25. Thanks for listening. Comment if I'm way off here.
Spec
nebaseball44..... I think you're right about the depth of the NE teams. USM, Trinity, and EConn have been raanked #1 or in the top ten throughout the season. They each have had strong seasons and each deserve a #1 ranking. As far as the depth of pitching, I think that there are a lot of teams that have 3 starters for tourney play, but only a few have pitching depth of 3-4 quality starters, not 5-6, once you get into to double elimination and the losers bracket. (Unless you ask JCon about the 7-8 young as they have at UMB)
Thanks, guys.
I haven't seen many D3 games, but being from New England I did happen to catch a couple WNEC and Wheaton games sometime back along with a little LEC conference games between ECONN and RIC. And looking at the previous top 25 rankings it just seems like New England has dominated the polls having as many as 5 to 6 ranked teams in the top 25 nationally, consistently. It seems as if a region may have a couple teams that get hot crack the polls then fall out, but these 6 (USM, ECONN, Suffolk, Wheaton, Curry, Trinity (Conn.)) were there all along and its a testament to coaching and the players to excel even when games start piling up. I also see that WPI and WNEC are getting some love too, receiving votes for the top 25, congrats. Anyways, I think I remember seeing somewhere a team from New England, I'll try to dig it back up, played 9 games in a span of 6 days, because of conference rain outs and other important games. How do you have the arms for that!? It seems as if a lot of people think its a long shot that a team be shipped to New York AND somewhere else and potentially have THREE New England teams representin' (as the kids would say) in the World Series. I am one of those people, I think it is by far a long shot that the committee would let that happen, but is it really? Have a good one gentlemen.
Spec
Regarding the Pool C battle between WPI and Wheaton, I do not see how you take Wheaton over WPI since their records are very similar, and that WPI's regional record is better.
Additionally,
Wheaton is 4-9 vs. regionally ranked teams
WPI is 6-1 vs. regionally ranked teams.
Although this means wheaton has played 6 more regionally ranked games, it also means that WPI could lose all 6 of them and still have a better record against such teams.
Finally, WPI took 2 out of 3 from Wheaton in the season series. One thing is for sure, the committee CANNOT take Wheaton without taking WPI
Quote from: d3baseballnut on May 05, 2009, 01:15:02 PM
Regarding the Pool C battle between WPI and Wheaton, I do not see how you take Wheaton over WPI since their records are very similar, and that WPI's regional record is better.
Additionally,
Wheaton is 4-9 vs. regionally ranked teams
WPI is 6-1 vs. regionally ranked teams.
Although this means wheaton has played 6 more regionally ranked games, it also means that WPI could lose all 6 of them and still have a better record against such teams.
Finally, WPI took 2 out of 3 from Wheaton in the season series. One thing is for sure, the committee CANNOT take Wheaton without taking WPI
Wanna bet? :o
You should shoot over to the New England Regional board and have a discussion with
YA, Boy. moc323 will be glad to see your post.
Word 8)
Quote from: wordsmith on May 05, 2009, 02:58:07 PM
Quote from: d3baseballnut on May 05, 2009, 01:15:02 PM
Regarding the Pool C battle between WPI and Wheaton, I do not see how you take Wheaton over WPI since their records are very similar, and that WPI's regional record is better.
Additionally,
Wheaton is 4-9 vs. regionally ranked teams
WPI is 6-1 vs. regionally ranked teams.
Although this means wheaton has played 6 more regionally ranked games, it also means that WPI could lose all 6 of them and still have a better record against such teams.
Finally, WPI took 2 out of 3 from Wheaton in the season series. One thing is for sure, the committee CANNOT take Wheaton without taking WPI
Wanna bet? :o
You should shoot over to the New England Regional board and have a discussion with YA, Boy. moc323 will be glad to see your post.
Word 8)
If I had to pick one I would take WPI. Wheaton slid way to much at the end of the year and not just with their 4 or 5 pitchers, their one and two guys got pounded in their finale starts. Curry has the great record but the resume is lacking in my opinion. If not WPI I would take Curry over Wheaton because of the head to head win but I'm not to sure how much that wieghs in on it.
High fives to WOrd as he has been preaching WPI for a while now......no thats not why I took them WOrd.....???
Welcome aboard, spectator!
Thanks Ralph,
Just been watching the boards and stuff. As people might see I'm kind of a New England-er being from Mass and its fun to watch D3 teams play very good baseball, rather some of the D1 "big-shot" garbage that goes on nowadays (so flashy, still love it though). Thanks for the welcome and can't wait to see how selection Sunday plays out over here in this power house region of ours. Thanks again.
Spec
the new england regional should be interesting as many of the best teams in the country are playing in it... i think teams such as suffolk and babson and wnec for that matter have a great chance to make some noise over the higher perennial powers in the region (so. maine, econn trinity). suffolk is a solid team all around, although they come from a weaker conference where they can get away with a decent staff and suspect hitting. wnec is also a strong team to come out of the ccc with the likes of roger williams and a team like curry who can hit the ball. makes you wonder why they didnt do well in conference play all year, is it a lack of depth who knows? and then theres babson who has very strong pitching and good hitting but has struggled from a lack of good fielding that has hurt them in many games. i feel like in a tournament setting if there is strong fielding they could be a forced to be reckoned with. (moc323 thats for you). if this team gets hot look out becuase they certainly have the talent its whether they can put it together.
my prediction to win the regionals (for some reason im feeling an upset).
the obvious team says econn, southern maine doesnt have the depth of pitching to play in a field this strong. if trinity is in i think they have a great chance as well.
what i think will happen is a darkhorse such as wnec or babson will take it. if they can put everything together for a good weekend the nation will be shocked to see one of these teams in the national tournament in appleton.
final prediction... econn vs. babson in the final... econn wins in a close one
Hate to be "that" guy but...if you get you are pitching that championship game for Babson will you lose intentionally to make that prediction correct?
The top of the region is too strong this year for upsets. It should come down to Trin, EConn, and USM. They have been the best teams all year and while anything can happen, those teams are just that strong and all have experience in the tournament.
I know I said that EConn, USM, and Trinity could each be #1 in a regional, however, I wouldn't be so quite to dismiss Williams from an automatic bid from the NESCAC tourney. Williams at 24-10 is a bit deceiving. I got a chance to almost literally get to see Williams as they got over the plane in March in Phoenix where they started off 0-5 against EConn, Gustavius, and Calvin. Since then they have been outstanding with a strong trio of pitching from Benz, Barr, and Horwitz. After they got knocked around by Eastern in the first inning of the first game they hadn't really had too many problems other than a sweep from Amherst. We have already seen some upsets.... who knows. But even if Trinity loses in the NESCAC... they get a bid, bad news for WPI, Curry, and Wheaton.
If you are Curry and or Wheaton you need Trinity to win, and you need the LEC tournament to have one of the top 2 seeds win. Upset in either sees Curry and Wheaton on the outside looking in, i think these are the last two leagues that are waiting on the AQ. Can not wait till sunday to see who made it and who didnt
KSCfan,
I couldn't agree more. I want to say that ever since the topic of Curry/Wheaton, and enter WPI into the discussion, came up I think everyone that was arguing their respective points were under the assumption that Trinity is going to get a pool-A bid and one of USM or ECSU would win the LEC awarding an at-large to the other. Because lets be honest if either of those scenarios doesn't play out in Curry/Wheaton/WPI's favor then this whole quarrel about who should/will get an at-large is for nothing. Granted its fun. Personally, I think the committee should look at the boards and see the conflict of awarding one of the at-larges to one of those three teams, and award Trinity their conference, give ECSU or USM the LEC title and give us our answer!! :)
Spec
Things are going exactly according to plan for Curry and Wheaton and WPI as the LEC tournament has been going right by the seed. USM and Eastern play today in the winners bracket final and Keene awaits the loser.
Quote from: KSCfan on May 08, 2009, 12:45:40 PM
Things are going exactly according to plan for Curry and Wheaton and WPI as the LEC tournament has been going right by the seed. USM and Eastern play today in the winners bracket final and Keene awaits the loser.
KSC------IS IT DOWN TO 3 TEAMS YET? Ecsu, USM, KEENE ST? Is everyone thinking if KSC pulls off the upset to win this tourney---both USM and ECSU would get at large bids, of course---and WPI, Wheaton and Curry would all be out?? Or, if Trinity wins their tourney---would that still leave one more at large bid for New England??
Quote from: moc323 on May 08, 2009, 08:59:44 PM
Quote from: KSCfan on May 08, 2009, 12:45:40 PM
Things are going exactly according to plan for Curry and Wheaton and WPI as the LEC tournament has been going right by the seed. USM and Eastern play today in the winners bracket final and Keene awaits the loser.
KSC------IS IT DOWN TO 3 TEAMS YET? Ecsu, USM, KEENE ST? Is everyone thinking if KSC pulls off the upset to win this tourney---both USM and ECSU would get at large bids, of course---and WPI, Wheaton and Curry would all be out?? Or, if Trinity wins their tourney---would that still leave one more at large bid for New England??
moc 323,
Current LEC Tourney status:
UMass Boston eliminated this morning by KSC.
ECSU over KSC in yesterday's suspended game this morning, and over USM this afternoon
Tomorrow morning KSC vs USM in elimination game, winner needs to beat ECSU twice, once tomorrow afternoon, once Sunday noon to win auto bid to NCAA NE Regional
Day 1 in the NESCAC tourney - Trin over Wes without throwing the best pitcher in NE (Bayer). That means Bayer throws against a red hot Williams team, who scored 18 runs today vs Tufts.
Quote from: ECSUalum on May 08, 2009, 09:09:03 PM
Quote from: moc323 on May 08, 2009, 08:59:44 PM
Quote from: KSCfan on May 08, 2009, 12:45:40 PM
Things are going exactly according to plan for Curry and Wheaton and WPI as the LEC tournament has been going right by the seed. USM and Eastern play today in the winners bracket final and Keene awaits the loser.
KSC------IS IT DOWN TO 3 TEAMS YET? Ecsu, USM, KEENE ST? Is everyone thinking if KSC pulls off the upset to win this tourney---both USM and ECSU would get at large bids, of course---and WPI, Wheaton and Curry would all be out?? Or, if Trinity wins their tourney---would that still leave one more at large bid for New England??
moc 323,
Current LEC Tourney status:
UMass Boston eliminated this morning by KSC.
ECSU over KSC in yesterday's suspended game this morning, and over USM this afternoon
Tomorrow morning KSC vs USM in elimination game, winner needs to beat ECSU twice, once tomorrow afternoon, once Sunday noon to win auto bid to NCAA NE Regional
Ok, great--and thanks ECSU..... ANY GUESSES as to whom may get at large from New Eng, if ECSU wins w/out a loss in this tourney---and if USM is 2nd?
If Trinity also wins---would you expect 1, or 2 of the 3 teams in question to be invited?
If Trinity wins NESCAC and ECSU win LEC, I predict 2 Pool C's: USM and Curry. one of which goes to NY Regional.
If USM wins LEC, then ECSU gets pool C and USM ships out to Long Island as ECSU is hosting NE Regional.
Now we know all the AQ's, here's my guess on seeding:
ECSU
Trinity
Curry
Suffolk
WNEC
Babson
Westfield State
Husson
USM to NY as #1 seed
I can still see Trinity going to NY but right now I think they stay home and on campus.
Also I can see almost any permutation of Curry/Suffolk/WNEC. I picked it the order I did to not put the 2 TCCC teams against each other in the 1st round of regional. I'm sure it doesn't figure in committee's seeding, just my personal preference here.
that's my $.02
For what its worth my take...
1-USM
2-ECSU
3-Suffolk
4-WPI
5-WNEC
6-Babson
7-Westfield State
8-Husson
Trinity to NY
Just a guess after all ;D
Word
Quote from: wordsmith on May 10, 2009, 06:23:28 PM
For what its worth my take...
1-USM
2-ECSU
3-Curry
4-WNEC
5-Suffolk
6-Babson
7-Westfield State
8-Husson
Trinity to NY
Just a guess after all ;D
Word
WOrd, you think USM is the 1 seed over ECSU still??? After losing two games at home in the tourney??? the BIG A.D. out of the regional for USM. You really do hate TEE don't you???
I hit send before I corrected my post. I changed my Curry seeding out and added WPI.
So I am playing both sides against the middle and will probably be wrong on both accounts; if the committee looks at the entire season, USM was the better team. If they just look at who is playing the best right now, it would be TEE. Same goes for WPI/Curry.
I figure they will look at TEE getting the home field advantage and in reality a 2 seed is no different than a 1 seed, unless Trinity is in the mix.
I guess you could say that about the entire tourney. If as no one is expecting, TEE, USM and Trinity all stay in NE then the seeding becomes more important as 2 & 3 would probably have to face-off leaving 1 & 4/5 for a go round. Of course none of this matters until the committe makes their selections.
What time do the selections come out. If it is tomorrow I'll schedule my meetings accordingly. If late tonight then NAPTIME fell-ars.
Word
Quote from: wordsmith on May 10, 2009, 06:41:30 PM
I hit send before I corrected my post. I changed my Curry seeding out and added WPI.
So I am playing both sides against the middle and will probably be wrong on both accounts; if the committee looks at the entire season, USM was the better team. If they just look at who is playing the best right now, it would be TEE. Same goes for WPI/Curry.
I figure they will look at TEE getting the home field advantage and in reality a 2 seed is no different than a 1 seed, unless Trinity is in the mix.
I guess you could say that about the entire tourney. If as no one is expecting, TEE, USM and Trinity all stay in NE then the seeding becomes more important as 2 & 3 would probably have to face-off leaving 1 & 4/5 for a go round. Of course none of this matters until the committe makes their selections.
What time do the selections come out. If it is tomorrow I'll schedule my meetings accordingly. If late tonight then NAPTIME fell-ars.
Word
I thought they would all stay in NE but like you said no one else seems to think so. This weekend was part of the season and we beat them 2 out of 3 this year.
Baseballfan posted in National Topics, (Pool A) thread, that last year NCAA Regional teams were posted 2 am Monday morning ::)
OK for all the retired d3 posters or insomniacs!
Word.....
I, too, believe that ECSU played themselves into a #1 seed by beating USM at the LEC tourney and I think that USM should be lucky to get a #3 seed in the NE Regional is Trinity stays in NE. However, if Trinity does get shipped to NY then I don't think USM should go to NY. It would kind of reward them. After seeing USM this past weekend... they may not have enough pitching to get by in an eight team regional. After Therrian there was a big dropoff. They have tons of offense but Eastern showed that their lineup doesn't quit. Not many teams can have the leading HR in the conference batting in the 5 hole.
My picks for the NE regional would be:
1) ECSU
2) USM
3) Suffolk
4) WNEC
5) Babson
6) Curry
7) Westfield State
8) Husson
Trinity getting #1 seed in NY
DGilblair,
No I don't hate TEE (well, yes I do in fact) but not this year. See I picked them back in February to play Texas-Tyler for the title this year, so I'd rather be right than be ah hatin' :D It be an ego thang ;) But seriously getting to meet all ya'll from TEE has made it harder to hate on TEE, but, give me time. Time heals all wounds they say.
February 15, 2009 New England Region - Baseball Fields
Daytona 500 this PM; Varitek back with the Red Sox. We all knew he couldn't leave galpal Heidi Watney; and best or worst of all The Evil Empire opens there quest for another National Title, in 13 days!!! (In my book they, and Texas-Tyler are odds on favs.)
Tic Toc Tic Toc
Word
Quote from: ecfaninri on May 10, 2009, 08:18:39 PM
Word.....
I, too, believe that ECSU played themselves into a #1 seed by beating USM at the LEC tourney and I think that USM should be lucky to get a #3 seed in the NE Regional is Trinity stays in NE. However, if Trinity does get shipped to NY then I don't think USM should go to NY. It would kind of reward them. After seeing USM this past weekend... they may not have enough pitching to get by in an eight team regional. After Therrian there was a big dropoff. They have tons of offense but Eastern showed that their lineup doesn't quit. Not many teams can have the leading HR in the conference batting in the 5 hole.
My picks for the NE regional would be:
1) ECSU
2) USM
3) Suffolk
4) WNEC
5) Babson
6) Curry
7) Westfield State
8) Husson
Trinity getting #1 seed in NY
I seem to remember Husson losing to USM 4-1, very close for most of the game @ Husson. Just an editorial comment
Quote from: wordsmith on May 10, 2009, 08:44:51 PM
DGilblair,
No I don't hate TEE (well, yes I do in fact) but not this year. See I picked them back in February to play Texas-Tyler for the title this year, so I'd rather be right than be ah hatin' :D It be an ego thang ;) But seriously getting to meet all ya'll from TEE has made it harder to hate on TEE, but, give me time. Time heals all wounds they say.
February 15, 2009 New England Region - Baseball Fields
Daytona 500 this PM; Varitek back with the Red Sox. We all knew he couldn't leave galpal Heidi Watney; and best or worst of all The Evil Empire opens there quest for another National Title, in 13 days!!! (In my book they, and Texas-Tyler are odds on favs.)
Tic Toc Tic Toc
Word
Gotta like a man that tells the truth......I kinda remember the Empire/Tyler prediction but not the Heidi Watney stuff which you would think I would with that girl being as gorgeous as she is.
Quote from: ECSUalum on May 10, 2009, 09:03:03 PM
Quote from: ecfaninri on May 10, 2009, 08:18:39 PM
Word.....
I, too, believe that ECSU played themselves into a #1 seed by beating USM at the LEC tourney and I think that USM should be lucky to get a #3 seed in the NE Regional is Trinity stays in NE. However, if Trinity does get shipped to NY then I don't think USM should go to NY. It would kind of reward them. After seeing USM this past weekend... they may not have enough pitching to get by in an eight team regional. After Therrian there was a big dropoff. They have tons of offense but Eastern showed that their lineup doesn't quit. Not many teams can have the leading HR in the conference batting in the 5 hole.
My picks for the NE regional would be:
1) ECSU
2) USM
3) Suffolk
4) WNEC
5) Babson
6) Curry
7) Westfield State
8) Husson
Trinity getting #1 seed in NY
I seem to remember Husson losing to USM 4-1, very close for most of the game @ Husson. Just an editorial comment
From what I heard Husson has decent arms just not enough offense...
I doubt it will happen this year or anytime soon (and I've said this before) but I wish the NCAA would do more mixing and matching with the New England, New York, & Mid Atlantic Regionals.
By my quick google maps calculations EVERY team projected to be in those 3 regionals are within 500 miles of ALL THREE sites.
Take the 24 teams you pick to go to those regionals, rank them 1-24 and put them in regions like this
One Regional is 1, 6, 7, 12, 13, 18, 19, & 24 seeds
Another is 2, 5, 8, 11, 14, 17, 20, & 23 seeds
Last is 3, 4, 9, 10, 15, 16, 21, & 22 seeds
it is supposed to be one large national tournament and not 8 regional tournaments, why not do this?
hockeyfan77
Husson may have some decent arms for their conference in which 13 of their 13 wins were at the hands of Farmington, Thomas, and Lyndon State but they wil not have seen anything like a lineup such as Eastern, Trinity or USM. I know that they played USM already but.........
Quote from: Paul Heering on May 10, 2009, 11:19:40 PM
I doubt it will happen this year or anytime soon (and I've said this before) but I wish the NCAA would do more mixing and matching with the New England, New York, & Mid Atlantic Regionals.
By my quick google maps calculations EVERY team projected to be in those 3 regionals are within 500 miles of ALL THREE sites.
Take the 24 teams you pick to go to those regionals, rank them 1-24 and put them in regions like this
One Regional is 1, 6, 7, 12, 13, 18, 19, & 24 seeds
Another is 2, 5, 8, 11, 14, 17, 20, & 23 seeds
Last is 3, 4, 9, 10, 15, 16, 21, & 22 seeds
it is supposed to be one large national tournament and not 8 regional tournaments, why not do this?
For those who don't know about it, use the software the NCAA uses, which can be found here (https://web1.ncaa.org/TES/exec/miles).
And so it goes....
WNEC to NY;
WPI in
Wheaties and Curry out
TEE, Trinity and USM all together.
TEE gets the #1 seed
Back to bed and back to the drawing board about my plans on driving down to CT and seeing WNEC play in the tourney. Drat!
Word :P
So 3 of the top 6 teams in the country have to battle it out to get to Wisconsin? ESCU, USM and Trinity will be a dogfight. One thing is for sure, the price of admission at the NE regional will be well worth it. I can't even try to predict who will represent New England.
Here is what I'm looking forward to:
ESCU gets the honor of the 1 seed but has arguably the hardest first round matchup of the big 3 in Babson... Maybe an upset in the making?
What game will Trinity pitch Bayer? Trinity's offense I think can slug there way out of a first round game against WSC but Bayer will probably have to go game 2 against USM... what a match up that would be.
Like I said above, USM will cruise against Husson but will have there hands full with arguably the best pitcher in the country in Bayer for game 2, what a game that would be if everything works out. No disrespect to ECSU but Trinity with Bayer and USM with Therrien would probably be the best D3 game of 2009, I just hope everything falls into place so we can see it.
My impact players for the regional (players who I think could single-handidly carry their teams):
1. ESCU: Gilblair and Castillo
2. USM: D'Alfonso, Pike and Burrelson
3. Trinity: Bayer, Killeen and Graham
4. WPI: Fahey and McNee
5: Suffolk: Just doesn't have the talent of the above
6. WSC: Same
7: Husson: No Prayer
8: Babson: Aizenstadt (tough match up for ECSU if he goes game 1)
This is shaping up to be one of the best regionals EVER. Good luck to everyone in involved.
3 of the top 6 teams in America are all stuffed into one regional.
Kind of like that old John Madden favorite Turducken (a dish consisting of a partially de-boned turkey stuffed with a de-boned duck, which itself is stuffed with a small de-boned chicken).
The Turducken Regional :D
Would it not be bizarre if another team other than the BIG 3 came out of this Regional??? Like WPI???
Which brings me to WPI - congrats to this team. I think you will see I jumped onto their bandwagon way back when and got a lot of criticism about it. Glad they made it in.
Word 8)
Wow what a regional tournament in NE. Def going to be the price of admission for that one. But, i have a couple of gripes with the NCAA selections. Three of the top 6 teams in America in one region. A very very tough region with 8 teams, while you have Cortland looking to breeze through that region with only 6 teams????
WPI got in which is good for them, and i hope they do well, but why not give Curry a bid and ship them to NY or something. Curry deserved to get into that tournament but i guess had they won the CCC it wouldnt matter.
Cant wait to check out the regional at Eastern. LEC TV did an amazing job with the LEC tournament and i see that the LEC is hosting the region, will we see any video feed of the games??? I know Harwich had them last year and the year before that, just wondering if anyone knows
KSCfan,
Go to ECSU athletics home page, click on mens sports and then baseball. the NE Regional logo will be staring you in the face, click on it ,and you will see access to both live stats, ( hope they work for all games this time as Saturday's ECSU/Keene game they did not) and LEC TV VIDEO
Thanks Alum +1k, cant wait to blow off work here in NH to watch the regionals at Eastern. Going to be a long day of games on that first day
Hope to finally meet everyone this week in Mansfield, as its has been a pleasure for me to read your posts and have learned a lot from all.
Will be sharing time hanging with DGilblair and ecfaninri along the LF grassy knoll and my wife/sons in the stands ;D
Quote from: ECSUalum on May 11, 2009, 09:20:35 AM
Hope to finally meet everyone this week in Mansfield, as its has been a pleasure for me to read your posts and have learned a lot from all.
Will be sharing time hanging with DGilblair and ecfaninri along the LF grassy knoll and my wife/sons in the stands ;D
So cool. I miss regionals. It is such a great experience.
Regionals sometimes brings back fonder memories than even the CWS.
Quote from: DougiesGoinDeep on May 11, 2009, 04:42:35 AM
So 3 of the top 6 teams in the country have to battle it out to get to Wisconsin? ESCU, USM and Trinity will be a dogfight. One thing is for sure, the price of admission at the NE regional will be well worth it. I can't even try to predict who will represent New England.
Here is what I'm looking forward to:
ESCU gets the honor of the 1 seed but has arguably the hardest first round matchup of the big 3 in Babson... Maybe an upset in the making?
What game will Trinity pitch Bayer? Trinity's offense I think can slug there way out of a first round game against WSC but Bayer will probably have to go game 2 against USM... what a match up that would be.
Like I said above, USM will cruise against Husson but will have there hands full with arguably the best pitcher in the country in Bayer for game 2, what a game that would be if everything works out. No disrespect to ECSU but Trinity with Bayer and USM with Therrien would probably be the best D3 game of 2009, I just hope everything falls into place so we can see it.
My impact players for the regional (players who I think could single-handidly carry their teams):
1. ESCU: Gilblair and Castillo
2. USM: D'Alfonso, Pike and Burrelson
3. Trinity: Bayer, Killeen and Graham
4. WPI: Fahey and McNee
5: Suffolk: Just doesn't have the talent of the above
6. WSC: Same
7: Husson: No Prayer
8: Babson: Aizenstadt (tough match up for ECSU if he goes game 1)
This is shaping up to be one of the best regionals EVER. Good luck to everyone in involved.
Dougie,
I think NE Regional can be defined as a SUPER REGIONAL!!! (a la the D-I nomenclature)
Word...
I hope the baseball gods punish the committee for not including WNEC in the NE Regional, by smiling your team at a 6 team regional. I guess they didn't want NE to potentially dominate the CWS with 2 teams in Appleton.
Go Golden Bears....
ECSUAlum... I hope to get to see some of these games but work seems to keep getting in the way.
I really can't believe that Cal Luther #15 and Curry #16 got snubbed, but I glad that WPI and Conor Fahey will get a chance to perform on a big stage. Interesting fact that Fahey and Matt were teammates together in Lowell of the NECBL last summer, both had 1-5 records, both were leaders in the league in ERA and strikeouts, and more importantly - BOTH are from Rhode Island.
Quote from: DougiesGoinDeep on May 11, 2009, 04:42:35 AM
So 3 of the top 6 teams in the country have to battle it out to get to Wisconsin? ESCU, USM and Trinity will be a dogfight. One thing is for sure, the price of admission at the NE regional will be well worth it. I can't even try to predict who will represent New England.
Here is what I'm looking forward to:
ESCU gets the honor of the 1 seed but has arguably the hardest first round matchup of the big 3 in Babson... Maybe an upset in the making?
What game will Trinity pitch Bayer? Trinity's offense I think can slug there way out of a first round game against WSC but Bayer will probably have to go game 2 against USM... what a match up that would be.
Like I said above, USM will cruise against Husson but will have there hands full with arguably the best pitcher in the country in Bayer for game 2, what a game that would be if everything works out. No disrespect to ECSU but Trinity with Bayer and USM with Therrien would probably be the best D3 game of 2009, I just hope everything falls into place so we can see it.
My impact players for the regional (players who I think could single-handidly carry their teams):
1. ESCU: Gilblair and Castillo
2. USM: D'Alfonso, Pike and Burrelson
3. Trinity: Bayer, Killeen and Graham
4. WPI: Fahey and McNee
5: Suffolk: Just doesn't have the talent of the above
6. WSC: Same
7: Husson: No Prayer
8: Babson: Aizenstadt (tough match up for ECSU if he goes game 1)
This is shaping up to be one of the best regionals EVER. Good luck to everyone in involved.
Have to take issue with your thoughts on Suffolk, Dougie. I'm paid to know these things (not really), but you don't run off a 30-9 record playing a good schedule without having some impact players. They're led on offense by one of the best run producers in America, Bobby Barrett. At last check, the junior catcher was 5th in the country and 2nd in New England with 66 RBI (trails only D'Alfonso). Setting the table for the Rams has been center fielder Rory Gentile, who's only getting on base at a .503 clip. He's as dynamic as they come, with 41 walks in 39 games to go along with his .361 5 HR 39 RBI stat line. He's also 25-31 in steal attempts.
Suffolk also has 3 very good starting pitchers, 3 guys who in my opinion can beat anybody on any given day. Tim Doyle, Daniel Delia and Reid Jackson are a combined 20-4 with a 2.94 ERA. Jackson, in the last 2 seasons, has victories over Montclair State, Southern Maine, Babson, and Wheaton (ranked #2 nationally at the time). Delia has beaten Westfield State, Roger Williams, and Ramapo, and Doyle has beaten Ripon and MIT. To say they don't have any impact players is kind of ignorant and disrepsectful to a club that has ran off quite a season while beating some very good teams.
One last note about Suffolk, specifically on their first round matchup with WPI. I'm assuming the Engineers would throw their All-World Ace, Conor Fahey. The senior righthander is in my opinion the best pitcher in the region this year (sorry Jeremiah and Shawn), and his 105 Ks are tops in New England. He has absolutely dominant stuff, and I wouldn't be surprised in the least to hear his name called on draft day next month. That being said, don't count out Suffolk's offense in this one, and here's why. This Rams offense has proven all season long they relish hitting against good pitching. Against Bayer in Florida, the Rams probably gave the Trinity ace his hardest outing of the year, touching him for 4 earned runs in 7.1 innings pitched. Likewise, in the GNAC tournament, Suffolk rebounded against St. Joe's probable All-American Pat Moran (he of the 6'5 frame, 88 MPH fastball and 12-6 hammer) in the winner's bracket game, torching the D-1 transfer to the tune of 9 hits and 11 earned runs in 1.2 innings pitched. Moran and Bayer are two of the top 10 pitchers in this region, and Suffolk has shown they can hang. That said, Fahey's on another level right now, and I expect the 10 am game on Wednesday to be quite an affair.
Fellers- how does the NCAA commitee determine what seed you are? Is it your over all record, is thier some kind of formula. I was looking at this thing and in my opinion i think that Trinity has the easiest of the first round games of the top three seeds. IF i was Eastern and or USM i would much rather play Westfield State than Babson. Im not trying to disrespect Westfield but i honestly feel like Babson is a better team with a better strength of schedule. The NEWMAC is a much harder league than the MASCAC and thier schedules are similar. I would of thought that Westfield is the 8 and Babson the 6.
I have said it earlier and i will say it again, some interesting decesions by the NCAA. #16 in the country Curry not in??????
I agree KSCfan the NCAA needs to look at the body of work and not records. Babson is not a true 8 seed in this region and your right should probaly be switched around with Westfield. This presents what maybe would have been a game where you could save your ace to one where i feel you need to go with your best.
USM Trinity second round matchup will be a great one. If the matchup is Therrian Bayer, I will take Trinity. Both have great offenses and I feel bayer will be able to contain USM offense more.
I think the reason we got the big 3 all in Mansfield is the NCAA likes to send teams out that maybe "just got into the tournament" All three have been ranked in the top 10 all year so maybe they feel they should reward them and keep them home.
One last time.
1) Curry did not win their conference tourney title.
2) Curry lost 2 of 3 to WNEC (WNEC outscored Curry 26-8 in their 3 games) and WNEC ended up with a #5 seed in NY!
3) Curry played a schedule of weaker teams--> outside their conference mind you.
4) Only 2 quality wins came against WNEC and Wheaton
5) WPI - Quality wins came against EConn, Trinity, St. Joe's, UMD, and a late season sweep of Wheaton! Not to mention going the distance and winning the ECAC Championship last weekend.
6) Please can we be done with Curry, the Committee is.
I think pollsters look real quick at records and winning %. The committee got the right teams from NE this year. IMO. ;)
One other thing that seemed to get overlooked. I mentioned earlier that USM did not play D'Alfonso in their elimination match-up vs KSC. hockeyfan77 said it was a muscle twitch or something that seemed to indicate it was minor.
If it is not a minor thing and he is missing from the line-up they are a much much different team. Hope it is a minor thing as I always like to see teams and kids at full strength when playing for the big prize.
Word 8)
Word....
When did WPI beat Eastern?
a few random thoughts:
biggest surprise is all of top 3 stay in NE.
a little surprised WPI in and Curry out but with another look it's understandable
might have swapped WPI and Suffolk. Suffolk is(IMO)a little deeper in pitching. not much difference from the committee since they will face each other in 1st round in either order.
6,7,& 8 seeds are out of whack. Babson 8? they're the only one I would give a snowball's chance in you know where of competing in 1st round. Not to pick on Westfield or Husson but they are 2 pretty weak conferences. Babson & Westfield at least played(not with much success) more quality teams. Husson only played USM & St. Joe's that would really be called quality this year. Comparing records I would have Husson 8th. Comparing Babson & Westfield for 6&7, they end up pretty close. I think I'd give Babson a close call for 7th because of the stronger conference. probably doesn't make too much difference since no matter the order, they have the BIG 3 in the opening round.
Not a real big difference in the end from what the committee picked. It should be quite a regional!
Good luck to all! Hope the weather is great and everyone plays well. New England will have a great representative in Wisc!
Quote from: wordsmith on May 11, 2009, 01:01:27 PM
One other thing that seemed to get overlooked. I mentioned earlier that USM did not play D'Alfonso in their elimination match-up vs KSC. hockeyfan77 said it was a muscle twitch or something that seemed to indicate it was minor.
If it is not a minor thing and he is missing from the line-up they are a much much different team. Hope it is a minor thing as I always like to see teams and kids at full strength when playing for the big prize.
Word 8)
He tweaked a muscle (rather not say which one) and from all that I hear should be good the go Wednesday...I am pretty sure they didn't want to risk him on Sat and pulling it even worse...Noo offense to KSC but if he is in the line-up on Sat I think that game is a lot closer than 7-2...
USM needs a pitcher other than Therrian and Hahn and Eaton, Stacy to step up...With the offense USM has all the pitcher pretty much has to do is thrown strkies...The USM pitching staff has to get stop feeling sorry for themsleves in losing Schmidt, step up, show some mental toughness and pitch like then can...The stuff is there but the mental toughness may be lacking at the moment...Some has to light a fire under them and I hope they read this post...Step up or get out!!!
I believe that Yates has done a good job. Pitched well against Salem State, St. Joe's, and UMB. He had troubles with Babson but I heard that he had a problem with his index finger on his pitching hand. Was a little surprised that we didn't see against Keene on Saturday.
Quote from: mainefan on May 11, 2009, 05:23:41 PM
I believe that Yates has done a good job. Pitched well against Salem State, St. Joe's, and UMB. He had troubles with Babson but I heard that he had a problem with his index finger on his pitching hand. Was a little surprised that we didn't see against Keene on Saturday.
I agree that Yates has been the most consistent of the other pitchers that I didn't mention and I would love to see him take his pitching to the next level( crank it up even more) because he has the stuff to do so..
Trinity was one of the favorites going in. Check this and tell me you aren't routing for them now.
http://nescac.com/sports/bsb/2008-09/images/Trinity_2009_Baseball_Champ.jpg
Quote from: EasternCtFan on May 11, 2009, 01:44:04 PM
Word....
When did WPI beat Eastern?
In my dreams??? But not on the field. Good call Thanks.
Word :o
No problem......We Eastern fans take a loss very seriously lol
The points you made why Curry didnt deserve a bid really made me change my mind on them
Ok folks we open up tommorow at the Death Star in Mansfield which is a fancy name for Willimantic CT
Here are KSCfans awful never come true predictions
Game 1 Im taking Suffolk over WPI- the GNAC probably know more about Suffolk than i do but i am believer of thier team. I think that it will be a good game, and a battle, but i like the Rams.
Game 2 In what is the best game of the opening round i am taking Eastern over Babson. I like Babson but i dont believe they have the horses to beat Eastern. They do have some good pitching but i like Fontaine and the Eastern Offense to win
Game 3 Trinity over Westfield- Trinity top 6 in the country, Westfield plays in one of the worst conferences in NE. I personally thin that Westfield is a 8 seed and i think that the owls are in trouble against Trinity
Game 4 USM over Husson. Have not seen Husson play doesnt matter, seen USM play plenty of times, Might see ol Flaherty start Henry and save Therrian for Trinity in round 2.
Quote from: KSCfan on May 12, 2009, 08:48:23 AM
Ok folks we open up tommorow at the Death Star in Mansfield which is a fancy name for Willimantic CT
Here are KSCfans awful never come true predictions
Game 1 Im taking Suffolk over WPI- the GNAC probably know more about Suffolk than i do but i am believer of thier team. I think that it will be a good game, and a battle, but i like the Rams.
Game 2 In what is the best game of the opening round i am taking Eastern over Babson. I like Babson but i dont believe they have the horses to beat Eastern. They do have some good pitching but i like Fontaine and the Eastern Offense to win
Game 3 Trinity over Westfield- Trinity top 6 in the country, Westfield plays in one of the worst conferences in NE. I personally thin that Westfield is a 8 seed and i think that the owls are in trouble against Trinity
Game 4 USM over Husson. Have not seen Husson play doesnt matter, seen USM play plenty of times, Might see ol Flaherty start Henry and save Therrian for Trinity in round 2.
KSCFan,
Not sure I can agree with you on Game 1 I'd have to go with the WPI's and their ace Fahey.
Otherwise, chalk!
By the by, Mrs. Howe (KSC Coach Ken Howe's Mother) is recovering nicely from a serious medical issue. Good news there for a really good guy. :)
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Good news on Coach Howe's mother. One of Keenes biggest fans, praying for a safe and speedy recovery
Quote from: wordsmith on May 12, 2009, 08:53:49 AM
Quote from: KSCfan on May 12, 2009, 08:48:23 AM
Ok folks we open up tommorow at the Death Star in Mansfield which is a fancy name for Willimantic CT
Here are KSCfans awful never come true predictions
Game 1 Im taking Suffolk over WPI- the GNAC probably know more about Suffolk than i do but i am believer of thier team. I think that it will be a good game, and a battle, but i like the Rams.
Game 2 In what is the best game of the opening round i am taking Eastern over Babson. I like Babson but i dont believe they have the horses to beat Eastern. They do have some good pitching but i like Fontaine and the Eastern Offense to win
Game 3 Trinity over Westfield- Trinity top 6 in the country, Westfield plays in one of the worst conferences in NE. I personally thin that Westfield is a 8 seed and i think that the owls are in trouble against Trinity
Game 4 USM over Husson. Have not seen Husson play doesnt matter, seen USM play plenty of times, Might see ol Flaherty start Henry and save Therrian for Trinity in round 2.
KSCFan,
Not sure I can agree with you on Game 1 I'd have to go with the WPI's and their ace Fahey.
Otherwise, chalk!
By the by, Mrs. Howe (KSC Coach Ken Howe's Mother) is recovering nicely from a serious medical issue. Good news there for a really good guy. :)
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Re: Suffolk - WPI:
There is no question in my mind that Conor Fahey is the best pitcher in this regional, but here is some food for thought: Fahey threw 8 innings on Saturday. If WPI brings him back to start Sunday's 10 am game, he'll be on less than 3 days rest. I understand he has a rubber arm and is used to throwing a ton, but even that's tough. He's already logged 88 innings on the season, and one has to wonder how that workload, if at all, affects him. If WPI goes with Fahey, I expect him to pitch well, but not completely shut down the Suffolk offense, which as I mentioned in a previous post, has handled two of the best pitchers in New England with decent success (Bayer 4 earned runs in 7.1 innings, St. Joe's Moran 11 earned runs in 1.2 innings on short rest). WPi as a team is hitting .315, a decent mark but not the .335+ clip of USM/Trinity/Keene/ECSU/Curry/Wheaton, etc. They've relied on their pitching for the most part this season, and again, I expect a tight, close affair. Being the GNAC after all, I'll go with the homer pick and say Suffolk wins a nail biter 3-2.
In game two, I think Aizenstadt pitches his stones off, but in the end the Eastern offense will prove to be too much. Babson's offense just isn't good enough to score enough runs against a kid like Fontaine (or Musson and Gilblair, for that matter), and I think Eastern takes this one 6-1.
In game three, Bill Decker makes a surprise move in starting Janiga over Bayer, but the Bantams offense carries Trinity past Westfield State anyway, 9-4.
In the final game of the day, Southern Maine rolls over Husson 14-2, as their offense explodes (nothing new there). Flaherty likewise saves Therrien for Trinity, setting up a showdown on Thursday with Trinity's Bayer facing off against USM.
I've been reading these boards for three years now and have never felt compelled to reply until now (it should also be very obvious from my name, and such where I'm coming from, but I digress)...
I'm just writing to clear the air so please GNAC do not be offended; Suffolk, while they may be a formidabble opponent, did not "touch up" Bayer for four earned runs. The FS&HG defense committed four errors behind Bayer (two in the inning where Bayer allowed the four runs, inning: walk, strikeout, single, error (double play ball), strikeout, double, error (five possible outs now), single, strikeout. To Suffolk's credit they did get the hits when it counted, but even the singles in that inning were bermuda triangle shots down the left field line aided by the wind (the double was well struck). So, Suffolk, yes a quality opponent, but they did not exactly cause Bayer much stress; if it was anybody that caused stress it was the Bantam's D, which averaged an ungodly amount of errors in Florida and not the Suffolk O, which struck out 15 times in the game.
Quote from: BPCatch31 on May 12, 2009, 11:23:02 AM
I've been reading these boards for three years now and have never felt compelled to reply until now (it should also be very obvious from my name, and such where I'm coming from, but I digress)...
I'm just writing to clear the air so please GNAC do not be offended; Suffolk, while they may be a formidabble opponent, did not "touch up" Bayer for four earned runs. The FS&HG defense committed four errors behind Bayer (two in the inning where Bayer allowed the four runs, inning: walk, strikeout, single, error (double play ball), strikeout, double, error (five possible outs now), single, strikeout. To Suffolk's credit they did get the hits when it counted, but even the singles in that inning were bermuda triangle shots down the left field line aided by the wind (the double was well struck). So, Suffolk, yes a quality opponent, but they did not exactly cause Bayer much stress; if it was anybody that caused stress it was the Bantam's D, which averaged an ungodly amount of errors in Florida and not the Suffolk O, which struck out 15 times in the game.
Bayer is the best pitcher in the regional.......period.
Both Suffolk and WPI have good #2 starters in Delia and Murphy. Can they outpitch ECSU's #2 when ECSU brings to the table a superior hitting club?
Quote from: BPCatch31 on May 12, 2009, 11:23:02 AM
I've been reading these boards for three years now and have never felt compelled to reply until now (it should also be very obvious from my name, and such where I'm coming from, but I digress)...
I'm just writing to clear the air so please GNAC do not be offended; Suffolk, while they may be a formidabble opponent, did not "touch up" Bayer for four earned runs. The FS&HG defense committed four errors behind Bayer (two in the inning where Bayer allowed the four runs, inning: walk, strikeout, single, error (double play ball), strikeout, double, error (five possible outs now), single, strikeout. To Suffolk's credit they did get the hits when it counted, but even the singles in that inning were bermuda triangle shots down the left field line aided by the wind (the double was well struck). So, Suffolk, yes a quality opponent, but they did not exactly cause Bayer much stress; if it was anybody that caused stress it was the Bantam's D, which averaged an ungodly amount of errors in Florida and not the Suffolk O, which struck out 15 times in the game.
BP,
I should have prefaced my comment regarding the Suffolk - Trinity game, and I didn't. This season, Bayer's has been virtually untouchable, as his ERA sits at 0.49 and his record sits at a perfect 10-0. Statistically, he's the best pitcher in Division III baseball, no question. Just looking at that stat line, it's safe to assume the rough outings have been non-existent for Bayer all season long. The closest thing to getting "touched up" for Bayer was against Suffolk, at least according to his stat line against them (http://gosuffolkrams.com/sports/bsb/2008-09/news/suftrin09.pdf - 7.1, 7 h, 4 er). For most any other pitcher, that's a quality outing; for Bayer, it's not. That is why I used the term "touched him," although it probably isn't the best word I could have used to describe his outing.
My point wasn't to put down Bayer, anyway. He's an outstanding pitcher, and Trinity rolled to a 15-6 victory in that game. The point I was trying to make is that Suffolk has seen some of the best arms New England has to offer and they have held their own, and I don't think Fahey is going to go out and throw 9 scoreless with 20 K's like some would have you believe.
Quote from: d3baseballnut on May 12, 2009, 11:33:02 AM
Quote from: BPCatch31 on May 12, 2009, 11:23:02 AM
I've been reading these boards for three years now and have never felt compelled to reply until now (it should also be very obvious from my name, and such where I'm coming from, but I digress)...
I'm just writing to clear the air so please GNAC do not be offended; Suffolk, while they may be a formidabble opponent, did not "touch up" Bayer for four earned runs. The FS&HG defense committed four errors behind Bayer (two in the inning where Bayer allowed the four runs, inning: walk, strikeout, single, error (double play ball), strikeout, double, error (five possible outs now), single, strikeout. To Suffolk's credit they did get the hits when it counted, but even the singles in that inning were bermuda triangle shots down the left field line aided by the wind (the double was well struck). So, Suffolk, yes a quality opponent, but they did not exactly cause Bayer much stress; if it was anybody that caused stress it was the Bantam's D, which averaged an ungodly amount of errors in Florida and not the Suffolk O, which struck out 15 times in the game.
Bayer is the best pitcher in the regional.......period.
Both Suffolk and WPI have good #2 starters in Delia and Murphy. Can they outpitch ECSU's #2 when ECSU brings to the table a superior hitting club?
I highly doubt that Suffolk/WPI #2 will be better that Glibliar and or Musson (sp) who will probably go in games 2 and 3 respectfully ...I hope they do though!!!! ;D
Quote from: hockeyfan77 on May 12, 2009, 11:58:19 AM
Quote from: d3baseballnut on May 12, 2009, 11:33:02 AM
Quote from: BPCatch31 on May 12, 2009, 11:23:02 AM
I've been reading these boards for three years now and have never felt compelled to reply until now (it should also be very obvious from my name, and such where I'm coming from, but I digress)...
I'm just writing to clear the air so please GNAC do not be offended; Suffolk, while they may be a formidabble opponent, did not "touch up" Bayer for four earned runs. The FS&HG defense committed four errors behind Bayer (two in the inning where Bayer allowed the four runs, inning: walk, strikeout, single, error (double play ball), strikeout, double, error (five possible outs now), single, strikeout. To Suffolk's credit they did get the hits when it counted, but even the singles in that inning were bermuda triangle shots down the left field line aided by the wind (the double was well struck). So, Suffolk, yes a quality opponent, but they did not exactly cause Bayer much stress; if it was anybody that caused stress it was the Bantam's D, which averaged an ungodly amount of errors in Florida and not the Suffolk O, which struck out 15 times in the game.
Bayer is the best pitcher in the regional.......period.
Both Suffolk and WPI have good #2 starters in Delia and Murphy. Can they outpitch ECSU's #2 when ECSU brings to the table a superior hitting club?
I highly doubt that Suffolk/WPI #2 could be better that Glibliar and or Musson (sp) who will probably go in games 2 and 3...I hope they do though!!!! ;D
Don't know too much about WPI's #2, but I can say with some certainty that the top 3 arms at Eastern CT are 3 of the top starters in New England. You'd be hard pressed to find too many #1's in New England better than Will Musson, nevermind Gilblair, who is leading Division III in K's/9 innings. It's really an embarrassment of riches at Eastern CT right now in terms of pitching depth, and that might be the difference maker come Sunday, similar to Trinity's pitching depth last season (Kiely, Barnard, Regan, Bayer - that's just unfair).
I am surprised nobody's mentionned this but ECSU really got screwed in having to play Babson in the first round. First off, Babson is not an 8 seed. They are better than Husson and Westfield St. Second, Aizenstat is a very strong #1. This could very well be a trap game for ECSU.
Trinity caught a break in that Ramsey can probably hold off Westfield St. and allow Bayer to face Southern Maine. The only problem they'll face is that Bayer won't be able to start 2 games unless rain funks up the schedule.
Still, if ECSU beats Babson, I think they are in good shape because of their pitching depth. That's the biggest weapon a team needs in a regional.
Quote from: TheGNAC on May 12, 2009, 11:38:55 AM
Quote from: BPCatch31 on May 12, 2009, 11:23:02 AM
I've been reading these boards for three years now and have never felt compelled to reply until now (it should also be very obvious from my name, and such where I'm coming from, but I digress)...
I'm just writing to clear the air so please GNAC do not be offended; Suffolk, while they may be a formidabble opponent, did not "touch up" Bayer for four earned runs. The FS&HG defense committed four errors behind Bayer (two in the inning where Bayer allowed the four runs, inning: walk, strikeout, single, error (double play ball), strikeout, double, error (five possible outs now), single, strikeout. To Suffolk's credit they did get the hits when it counted, but even the singles in that inning were bermuda triangle shots down the left field line aided by the wind (the double was well struck). So, Suffolk, yes a quality opponent, but they did not exactly cause Bayer much stress; if it was anybody that caused stress it was the Bantam's D, which averaged an ungodly amount of errors in Florida and not the Suffolk O, which struck out 15 times in the game.
BP,
I should have prefaced my comment regarding the Suffolk - Trinity game, and I didn't. This season, Bayer's has been virtually untouchable, as his ERA sits at 0.49 and his record sits at a perfect 10-0. Statistically, he's the best pitcher in Division III baseball, no question. Just looking at that stat line, it's safe to assume the rough outings have been non-existent for Bayer all season long. The closest thing to getting "touched up" for Bayer was against Suffolk, at least according to his stat line against them (http://gosuffolkrams.com/sports/bsb/2008-09/news/suftrin09.pdf - 7.1, 7 h, 4 er). For most any other pitcher, that's a quality outing; for Bayer, it's not. That is why I used the term "touched him," although it probably isn't the best word I could have used to describe his outing.
My point wasn't to put down Bayer, anyway. He's an outstanding pitcher, and Trinity rolled to a 15-6 victory in that game. The point I was trying to make is that Suffolk has seen some of the best arms New England has to offer and they have held their own, and I don't think Fahey is going to go out and throw 9 scoreless with 20 K's like some would have you believe.
Good call GNAC, thanks. Like I said, it should be noted that they did get hits when they needed to in order to plate the runs.
NESCAC fan we had talked about this before, see earlier in the thread, or the general new england board i dont remember which one where we said that Babson should be the 6 seed, and westfield the 8. I think i asked what determines a teams seed because of this. Lets face it, everyone has a good #1 in the regionals. They wouldnt be there if they didnt. Like people have mentioned before, its the 2 or 3 or even 4 that matters.
You want to win the regionals have pitching, and stay out of the losers bracket
An area that is often not discussed because it is difficult to quantify is the mental toughness of the team in general and key players, (pitchers) in particular.
A lot of this comes with experience, but some is just the player and how he handles stressful/distracting situations.
In NCAA regionals and even more importantly in the CWS, it is critical that all players be able to not only handle situations where they may be in a jam, but on the other side when they have the lead, they need to have what I call is a KILLER INSTINCT, that is do not let down ever even with a comfortable lead in these games, as all teams can comeback. Killer means unrelentless strive to put more runs on the scoreboard, (strick out the side) and not letting momentum swing to the opponent.
I truely believe Trinity College had this mind set last year IMHO
Alum does that mean squeezing up by 9 runs in the 6th??
Couldnt resist throwing that one out there. Yes i agree about mental toughness. I think that this is the reason why the LEC teams year in and year out do so well. The strain of the LEC tournament prepares them for those tough situations that arise in the regionals. Thier is a reason that in the last two years you have had 2 LEC teams playing for the trip to Wisconsin in 07 and Trinity and USM last year. You can tell teams that are mentally tough and stay even keel through the whole game. You can see it in the way they play the game
That's what I said about Trin on the NESCAC board throughout the conference tourney. They did not play very well, especially defensively, but still won going away. That team knows how to win and has that KILLER INSTINCT - Killeen's grand slam. I think the biggest thing about knowing how to win is executing with two outs. If you stay on the field by making errors with two outs or can keep the other team on the field with two-out RBI, it can either kill or help a team.
I don't see Trinity winning it this year...not the same type of talent they had last year on the bump. They kicked it around a fair amount last year, but having Bourdon and DiBenedetto on the left side made their infield alot more sound than it is this year.
They beat up on a very, very weak schedule this year. Their game vs. Eastern was cancelled and the NESCAC was probably weaker than it has been in the last 5 years. They played one good team up North, so it is very difficult to gage this team's abiolity. But I will be very surprised if they win this region.
Quote from: NESCAC FAN on May 12, 2009, 12:10:20 PM
I am surprised nobody's mentionned this but ECSU really got screwed in having to play Babson in the first round. First off, Babson is not an 8 seed. They are better than Husson and Westfield St. Second, Aizenstat is a very strong #1. This could very well be a trap game for ECSU.
Trinity caught a break in that Ramsey can probably hold off Westfield St. and allow Bayer to face Southern Maine. The only problem they'll face is that Bayer won't be able to start 2 games unless rain funks up the schedule.
Still, if ECSU beats Babson, I think they are in good shape because of their pitching depth. That's the biggest weapon a team needs in a regional.
I dont think Babson is automatically better than Westfield or Hussion. There is a reason they were seeded 8th. Husson has won 30 games and Westfield beat WNE and WPI this season. The problem is neither has a fairly dominant #1, but Babson does.
Nonetheless, ECSU will not have a problem with Babson.
I'll take a stab at some predictions
I'll make my predictions ignoring the losers bracket
WPI over Suffolk (Fahey never leaves the dugout)
ECSU over Babson
Trinity over Westfield
Southern Maine over Husson
WPI over ECSU (Fahey participates)
Southern Maine over Trinity (Bayer sees that Colby, Wesleyan, and Bates aren't walking through that door)
Southern Maine over WPI
what do others think?
Paul...
Only problem with your WPI - Eastern game, your assuming Minor will beat Suffolk and then Fahey will outduel Gilblair or Musson in 2nd round. I really like Fahey but WPI and Fahey have not seen the likes of this kind of lineup.
And after Therrian, the drop off in pitching is tremendous.
Quote from: ecfaninri on May 12, 2009, 11:22:40 PM
Paul...
Only problem with your WPI - Eastern game, your assuming Minor will beat Suffolk and then Fahey will outduel Gilblair or Musson in 2nd round. I really like Fahey but WPI and Fahey have not seen the likes of this kind of lineup.
I'm just throwing out some guesses. I'm probably wrong.
Paul...
Your guess is an good as anyone else's.
It should be, as usual, a fun day for all the players, coaches, and fans at each of the regionals today. Weather looks good for Willimantic today. It is also nice for parents and fans who can't get out of work mid-week to catch some of these games to be able to watch it live on the net.
Here are my picks (guesses) for the tourney
Mideast Champion Heidelberg
Runner-up Adrian
Central Champion Millsaps
Runner-up Carthage
New England Champion Eastern Connectict
Runner-up Trinity
MidAtlantic Champion Keystone
Runner-up Kean
West Champion Pomona- Pitzer
Runner-up Texas-Tyler
South Champion Salisbury
Runner-up Johns Hopkins
New York Champion Western New England
Runner-up Cortland State
Midwest Champion St. Scholastica
Runner-up St. Olaf
Quote from: KSCfan on May 12, 2009, 02:08:37 PM
Alum does that mean squeezing up by 9 runs in the 6th??
Couldnt resist throwing that one out there. Yes i agree about mental toughness. I think that this is the reason why the LEC teams year in and year out do so well. The strain of the LEC tournament prepares them for those tough situations that arise in the regionals. Thier is a reason that in the last two years you have had 2 LEC teams playing for the trip to Wisconsin in 07 and Trinity and USM last year. You can tell teams that are mentally tough and stay even keel through the whole game. You can see it in the way they play the game
KSCFan,
Pulling out an "ol' school" reference to the TEE-KSC match-up a few years back....HolyWater siad after the game we squeezed bunted up by 9 or 10 runs because we have so much respect for Keene. Cough, cough, choke....
TEE fans, as nice as they might be, never get it, we don't forget, ever never.....ATTICA ATTICA ATTICA
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Word that game still sticks with me on a daily basis. Just so many battles with Eastern that year, and Keene ended up playing Eastern something like 6 times in 14 days. Most of them grueling battles, and most of them won by Eastern. Keene forcing the 2nd game in the LEC tournament then Ishmael throwing out Hall at the plate in the 9th only to have Gilblair have the tournament winning hit. THen in the regionals Re robbing a HR that would of tied the game in the 8th from Darrak in the winners bracket game, only to get bashed hard in the regional finals with squeezing up 9. Yes those E wearing Holywater worshipping flatlanders dont understand we never forget. ( I call them flatlanders but i was born and raised in CT hahahahahah)
And here we go.......
After 1...Suffolk 0 WPI 0
KSCfan,
Just think, if you had decided to go to the great Mecca that is ECSU in Willimantic, you could have turned the "thrill of defeat into the agony of victory" 8)
Coach Howe and Keene will get there, it is just a matter of time
TODAY IS THE BIG DAY!!!!!!!!!!!!! Heading out soon. Spending a boat load of time at my alma mater. Watching the best college baseball teams in the USA. Bright sunny day, high about 70F. with fellow D3 bb bloggers. It cant get much better than THAT :D
After 3 Suffolk 1 WPI 3
Alum the idea of going to eastern is about as attractive as Nick Naulty's DWI picture. I finished school at keene and i needed to get my masters and Eastern is about 15 min from my parents house and its cheap and i refused to go to Eastern to get it. Its sad when baseball impacts your life that much
http://www.thesmokinggun.com/mugshots/nolte1.html
Good game going on right now between suffolk and WPI
After 7 1/2 Suffolk 6 WPI 6
Suffolk 5 WPI 6 in the top of the 8th big double by Carter
All tied up in the 8th
You can also join us on the Daily Dose for discussion of all eight regionals. Follow along with us or contribute items from games you're following.
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Not to squelch discussion here at all, please continue! Just hoping to get occasional contributions from those following the games.
After 8 Suffolk 6 WPI 7
This has been some game between WPI and Suffolk, back and forth, back and forth. Looking forward to Babson and Eastern next
I have no problem with the contact play in the 9th with Suffolk. You see a lot of teams try that contact play with one out and a guy on third. If he stays put you are going to need a hit to get him in. By sending him you are making the shortstop field the ball clean and make a good throw to the plate in a pressure situation. It was a bang bang play as it was.
And of course as i say this Suffolk gets a hit that would of tied the game
Final Suffolk 6 WPI 7
After 1 Babson 2 ECSU 0
can't wait to hear what you all have to think about the early calls in this game, eastern starting to get lippy with the Blue!!!!
WOW......grand slam!!
That was cleary's first HR of the season....what a time and a place to get it done......can ECSU come back from 9-0???
Quote from: d3baseballnut on May 13, 2009, 02:14:02 PM
can ECSU come back from 9-0???
Yes, but they need to bring in a pitcher who can get outs...
After 6 Babson 10 ECSU 5
IF TEE comes back to win this debacle, remember the super-bothced-up play by Babson in the Top of 5th. Men on 1st & 3rd, no outs and they try to double steal; instead they get doubled-up, then the next pitch the batter hits a long fly for out 3 which likely would have been Out #1 with an 11th run scoring for Wally and the Beavers. :o
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Final Babson 10 ECSU 6
Final Babson 10, ECSU 6...
Great broadcast on www.littleeast.tv
Thanks for the videostream!
Wow Eastern goes down anything can happen I guess.
158 pitches for the Cleavers pitcher. :o
As Coach HolyWater said when the broadcaster asked him about it..God Bless the kid he pitched his heart out.
So TEE fans....did HolyWater outsmart himself by not throwing one of his lead dogs?
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Unlike MOC, like all the LEC faithful, I am not jealous of other teams in the league I follow. So all I can say is
NEWMAC!!!!!!!!
Baseball is mostly about pitching. A sufficiently hot pitcher can overcome almost anything, and a sufficiently cold one can negate almost anything. In 1951 Ned Garver had a pitching record of 20-12 for the St. Louis Browns which had a season record of 52-102.
After 3 WCS 3 Trinity 0
Quote from: frank uible on May 13, 2009, 05:45:17 PM
Baseball is mostly about pitching. A sufficiently hot pitcher can overcome almost anything, and a sufficiently cold one can negate almost anything. In 1951 Ned Garver had a pitching record of 20-12 for the St. Louis Browns which had a season record of 52-102.
Which is what makes this time of the season so much fun!
Thanks for the Ned Garver reference.
After 6 WSC 3 Trinity 6
Great stuff today - Fahey and Aizenstadt were outstanding. Trin is again hurting itself in the field.
NE team in NY update - WNEC took Ithaca behind the woodshed 16-5 behind 25 hits. They play the winner of RPI-Farmingdale St. tomorrow night at 7.
Ralph: We aim to please.
After 7 WCS 4 Trinity 6
Quote from: Rick Vaughn on May 13, 2009, 07:11:49 PM
NE team in NY update - WNEC took Ithaca behind the woodshed 16-5 behind 25 hits. They play the winner of RPI-Farmingdale St. tomorrow night at 7.
Rick,
Ithaca was Off-fha-ca as they had as many errors as runs (5).
WNEC takes on the winner of the RIP & Chip n Dale game.
Off-fha-ca & Cortland play to decide whether the 1 or 2 seed go home.
Word :o
Final WSC 4 Trinity 6
Mark Schmdit is pitching tonight...The Announcer said he was one of USM's lower starter... ::)
After 1 1/2 Husson 0 USM 1
Was Schmidt even expected to play anymore this year I find this suprising that he hasnt thrown all year and he is suddenly throwing the opener today...
Quote from: Jcon8958 on May 13, 2009, 09:20:14 PM
Was Schmidt even expected to play anymore this year I find this suprising that he hasnt thrown all year and he is suddenly throwing the opener today...
He was out 4 to 6 weeks: just as long as I said in a previous post...
After 3 1/2 Husson 0 USM 2
Fontaine has been one of Holiwaty's lead dogs. Just an off day. I guess if any team can come through the loser's bracket it would be a team like Eastern. A couple of pitches and that 7 run inning doesn't exist.
After 5 Husson 1 USM 2
Husson's starting pitcher is Ryan Arsenault...Any relation to Max Arsenault from USM a couple years ago?
Listening to littleeast tv today in the postgame conference there was something brought up about a coaches altercation among the eastern coaches, anyone know anything?
Quote from: EasternCtFan on May 13, 2009, 10:30:59 PM
Husson's starting pitcher is Ryan Arsenault...Any relation to Max Arsenault from USM a couple years ago?
No...
After 6 Husson 1 USM 3
Another thing, a couple yrs ago, Eastern playing in the NE regional decided to pitch their Ace (Gilblair) in game 1 vs the 7 seed st joes maine. Any idea why it is different this year not pitching your ace?
Who to start in the 1 v 8 game is often a tough question. You need to be deep to win an 8 team tournament and you hope your number 2 is good enough to beat the 8 seed. Last year it worked for Trinity as they held Keily out of game 1 and used him in game 2 against WNEC.
After 7 Husson 2 USM 4
I don't know I just feel you throw your ace game 1 as I stated in an earlier post before todays game, the other team will be throwing theres. you throw your ace game 1 their is a possibility of throwing him again sunday. If we match up our #3 in the 3rd game vs the other teams #3 ill take ours. Same with game #2 ill take our #2 over WPI's #2 which they would have ended up throwing.
husson with 2 on 1 out top 8th down 4-2 to USM, but......
Quote from: moc323 on May 13, 2009, 11:25:37 PM
husson with 2 on 1 out top 8th down 4-2 to USM, but......
now 4-3 still 1 out runners 1st/third for husson!
Quote from: moc323 on May 13, 2009, 11:28:35 PM
Quote from: moc323 on May 13, 2009, 11:25:37 PM
husson with 2 on 1 out top 8th down 4-2 to USM, but......
now 4-3 still 1 out runners 1st/third for husson!
now husson ties it 4-4 2 outs man on `at!
After 8 1/2 Husson 4 USM 4
Final Husson 4 USM 5 in 10
I'm exhausted after watching a good chunk of all four of today's games. I'm not too sure what to think about today. A good amount of people expected ECSU, USM, and Trin to roll, and none of them did. Eastern expected a battle with Babson, but what was unexpected was the way Westfield and Husson hung around. Although they were not pretty in getting there, we will see Therrian vs. Bayer tomorrow (scratch that - later today).
Some day one awards:
Best Pitcher: Fahey
Guttiest Pitcher: Aizenstadt - harnessed his inner 17 year old Dice-K
Best Hitter: D'Alfonso - the oppo laser when ball was not traveling - WooWee
Most Surprising Hit: Cleary's GS - He also called a great game behind the dish
Best Team Nobody Saw: WNEC - Doing NE proud by slapping Ithaca in NY
A little bit of everything in Day 1 of the NE Regionals!
WOW what a day of games. I watched the WPI Suffolk game, and the end of the USM and Husson game. I for one was way wrong about yesterday. I thought that Trinity, USM, would roll over thier competition but clearly not the case. I stand corrected my friends. Babson beating Eastern was a bit of a surprise but Eastern has the pitching to come all the way back in the losers bracket. Couple of questions going into today...
1. After Day 1 who is now the favorite to win it??
2. Babson and WPI play in a winner bracket game today who wins???
3. Did Eastern dig themselves a hole that is too big to get out of?
4. Can WNEC keep it going in NY... i hope so
Another day of blowing off work and watching regional games coming up for today
1. I think Southern Maine is the favorite. I think they beat Bayer today.
2. I think WPI has the better #2, but that one seems to be a tossup.
3. Eastern and only Eastern can come out of the losers bracket. If they win today, they'll play the loser of Trin-SMU tomorrow...
4. The NY region is very, very weak. WNEC caught a huge break going there. The could definitely win it.
Yes, an awesome day in Willamantic/ECSU home field... I was there for the end of WPI/Suffolk and for the entire Babson win over ECSU....(work was "bagged" as KSCFAN stated:)))
BABSON JUMPED ON ECSU'S STARTER FOR 9 RUNS IN 1ST 2 INNINGS, INCLUDING THAT GS BY CLEARY ! Nice time for a freshman's 1st career dinger, to say the least? hE'S BEEN A GREAT, MIDDLE- LOWER PART OF BATTING ORDER HITTER THIS YEAR for average and many clutch ab's...BUT, He crushed this one---rising line drive well over left field fence--a no doubter when it left the bat. ECSU definitely has the team/talent to crawl all the way back, AS KSCFAN suggests..and THE TEAM HITS ended up about 14-13 I think? --but, Babson did what they had to do. Surpise them a little early-- and get up, big ....then ride Aizenstadt as far as possible--as he is the "real deal" as I HAD HINTED LAST WEEK ON THE NEW ENG DISCUSSION BB. You have to see him gut games out, to really appreciate him. Class act also----late in the game a speedy runner for ECSU tripped over 1baseman's leg on a close play at 1st. he was hobbling for a few min. The umps said---"play ball" as he looked ready to run at 1b...SHAKING THE LEG STILL... Aizenstadt could've just gone to the stretch and delivered to next batter as ump had "ok'd"... but, he stepped back off the mound and asked the runner if he was "ok to go?" You could see the ECSU kid really appreciate that gesture and he nodded, "thanks"..-----it's what we ALL want to see in D3 baseball---"sportsmanship". So refreshing in today's somewhat "ugly" world. That may have gone unnoticed by many---but---just a testament to Aizentadt's "class" as a nice person--never mind a bulldog of a player. OK--enough saltboxing:))) back to baseball----
RICK V--- GREAT CALL WITH YOUR: "GUTTIEST PITCHER" COMMENT....AS, AIZENSTADT wouldn't let coach Noone take him out of this game with a crowbar!
The kid, as a soph....does NOT get rattled. I think having to face WPI, WHeaton and even MIT and Clark's bats all year helps anyone toughen up quickly---or get beat up badly!! He started off strong---then gave up 5 in 4th inning, after sitting for 1/2 hour during Babson's 7 run 2nd inning...which he didn't mind doing:)) then, dug deep and only gave up one run the rest of the day---a complete game---pitch count? maybe 125? He threw 147 earlier this year, in a complete game! I don't necessarily condone that stuff, personally---but, his form never faultered---so, with his solid mechanics through all 9 innings---hopefully less/minimal chance of arm probs down the road. I believe he's been doing this stuff for years at previous levels. Looks like work needs 1 more "bagging" today- boys---as my nephew (Jeff Wojnar) is scheduled to be on the bump for Babson vs WPI today. Need another "gutsie" effort.....Jeff also has the guts. Hopefully his teammates continue to hit also.... This Babson team has no fear of anyone----again, partially due to their rough schedule all year. Kuodos to coach Noone for that.
KSC FAN-----as you said---"Babson vs WPI....WHO WINS?" Tough call--as WPI won regular season title over Wheaton and Babson, etc... then Babson swept through NEWMAC tourney 4-0......(but, Babson did lose both games of the DH to WPI early this year....) I'm sure Fahey had pitched one of those 2 games... I'm far too deep into this tourney etc, from a family/heart standpoint to make an unbiased call on "who wins?".....so, I'll leave that prediction to you guys... I Will be there hoping for the best for the Beavers! Their recent "roll" at end of season couldn't be timed any better---obviously...SO, I HOPE THAT continues for the boys in green:))) Cough, cough..... gotta call work----not feeling so well:))) NAHHH, kidding------this is what vaca days are for !!! see y'all back here soon...
Quote from: KSCfan on May 14, 2009, 07:42:32 AM
WOW what a day of games. I watched the WPI Suffolk game, and the end of the USM and Husson game. I for one was way wrong about yesterday. I thought that Trinity, USM, would roll over thier competition but clearly not the case. I stand corrected my friends. Babson beating Eastern was a bit of a surprise but Eastern has the pitching to come all the way back in the losers bracket. Couple of questions going into today...
1. After Day 1 who is now the favorite to win it??
2. Babson and WPI play in a winner bracket game today who wins???
3. Did Eastern dig themselves a hole that is too big to get out of?
4. Can WNEC keep it going in NY... i hope so
Another day of blowing off work and watching regional games coming up for today
I MAY BE IN THE MINORITY HERE---BUT, I still believe in the "you are the champs" until someone takes you down, the next year---so--I will say Trinity is STILL the team to beat. The bad news here is---there are may "favorites" in this one bracket---so, let the battles begin! Of course USM, ECSU will not go away quietly----IF they do go away AT ALL!!! tHIS new eng. BRACKET IS NOW EVEN MORE "BRUTAL" THAN IT 1ST LOOKED ON PAPER---IF THAT'S POSSIBLE...PER BABSON WINNING/ecsu LOSING 1ST GAMES...
Congrats to WNEC mopping up in NY, AS YOU GUYS MENTIONED... THEY COULD ROLL RIGHT THROUGH THAT BRACKET.
Quote from: EasternCtFan on May 13, 2009, 10:38:12 PM
Another thing, a couple yrs ago, Eastern playing in the NE regional decided to pitch their Ace (Gilblair) in game 1 vs the 7 seed st joes maine. Any idea why it is different this year not pitching your ace?
would Gilblair have been starting on only 3 days rest? Not sure whom pitched for ECSU on sat---if that's when LEC tourney ended? that might be only valid reason for going with # 2 was it yesterday? I didn't follow LEC tourney day by day, so....outsider just wondering if short rest was a factor here?
Where are all the Eastern fans?
Gilblair threw on friday against USM in the little east tournamet, so using my awesome math thats 4 days rest. Fontaine is a very good pitcher and he was on a little bit longer rest so maybe that is why. He just choose to have a bad day at the wrong time perhaps. I have seen Gilblair pitch on shorter rest. Im guessing they liked fontaine and for good reason to win the game, more rest and a good pitcher, if Eastern was going to win the regional he was going to have to throw at some point in the tournament.
Quote from: neastbball on May 14, 2009, 09:18:48 AM
Where are all the Eastern fans?
TEE fans are dealing with their own demons today...leave them be.... :-\
http://www.funnyjunk.com/funny_pictures/12194/Ronald+Is+Into+Roleplaying/
Eastern started Musson today instead of Gilblair.
Eastern 1 Suffolk coming to bat in the 1st. Eastern had a chance to get more than one and Suffolk got the double play to get out of the bases loaded one out jam
I was thinking about not starting Gilblair today and i had two schools of thought
1. One one hand it makes sense because if you are going to come back and win the regional you could currently use him next round when you play again. Musson is a quality pitcher and is going to have to pitch at some point and hopefully you can get past this one with Musson is a good pitcher and have Gilblair for the winner of the Westfield and Husson game
2. You run the risk of going two and out and never having your best pitcher throw for you in the tournament, which doesnt make a lot of sense. It would look bad if Eastern got bounced and Gilblair never threw.
Which one is right, remember you are trying to win the regional not just have a good showing in it. I personally think that you have to throw Gilblair today. There is no tommorow when you are in the losers bracket, and the idea of losing two in a row without your best pitcher is not to appealing to me.
Quote from: KSCfan on May 14, 2009, 10:24:24 AM
I was thinking about not starting Gilblair today and i had two schools of thought
1. One one hand it makes sense because if you are going to come back and win the regional you could currently use him next round when you play again. Musson is a quality pitcher and is going to have to pitch at some point and hopefully you can get past this one with Musson is a good pitcher and have Gilblair for the winner of the Westfield and Husson game
2. You run the risk of going two and out and never having your best pitcher throw for you in the tournament, which doesnt make a lot of sense. It would look bad if Eastern got bounced and Gilblair never threw.
Which one is right, remember you are trying to win the regional not just have a good showing in it. I personally think that you have to throw Gilblair today. There is no tommorow when you are in the losers bracket, and the idea of losing two in a row without your best pitcher is not to appealing to me.
I WOULD AGREE WITH YOU ON THIS NOTE.....
Quote from: KSCfan on May 14, 2009, 09:45:38 AM
Gilblair threw on friday against USM in the little east tournamet, so using my awesome math thats 4 days rest. Fontaine is a very good pitcher and he was on a little bit longer rest so maybe that is why. He just choose to have a bad day at the wrong time perhaps. I have seen Gilblair pitch on shorter rest. Im guessing they liked fontaine and for good reason to win the game, more rest and a good pitcher, if Eastern was going to win the regional he was going to have to throw at some point in the tournament.
I THINK A GOOD/HOT HITTING TEAM JUST GOT TO A VERY GOOD STARTER, BEFORE HE GOT INTO HIS GRROVE. iN THE PROS---AS WE ALL KNOW, THAT'S ALWAYS A TEAM'S GOAL WHEN GOING VS ANY STARTER---BUT, ESPECIALLY THE TOP NOTCH STARTERS. YOU NEED TO GET TO THEM EARLY...OR ELSE. THIS TIME--THE BABSON HITTERS SHOWED UP IN 1ST 2 INNINGS. I DON'T BLAME THE ECSU STARTER AT ALL THERE----HAPPENS AT ALL LEVELS, IF YOU CAN GET TO A GOOD STARTER BEFORE HE GETS TOO COMFY ON THE HILL...
I would guess Eastern fans aren't posting b/c they are at the games. Get those Blackberries going!!
Quote from: Rick Vaughn on May 14, 2009, 10:39:51 AM
I would guess Eastern fans aren't posting b/c they are at the games. Get those Blackberries going!!
OOPS.....Good call.... 10am game well underway..
After 6 ECSU 6 Suffolk 2
Eastern starting to open up a lead, 6-2
Parke and Bass are really setting the table up nicely for Eastern as they are a combined 8-9 with 5 rbi's that is some serious production out of your top two hitters
Final ECSU 13 Suffolk 2
Great Job today by Musson, gave his team a CG win which will allow Eastern an extra days rest for the bullpen which is huge in the Regionals. Espically since Eastern used some bullpen guys in yesterdays lost
Guys,
Not going to second guess Coach Holowaty on his pitching selection. His past record in tourney play has been outstanding!!
Musson has gotten ECSU back into to this and we hope Shawn will keep us going!!
I sent a congratulatory note to Jonathan Harper, Commissioner of the LEC , cc Dr E Nunez , President of ECSU and Dr J Wong ECSU Athletic Director, on the fantastic job with the NCAA NE Regional @ ECSU, and the LEC Tourney @ USM.
After 6 1/2 Husson 8 WSC 3
What are the weather conditions?
light rain, but now stopped @3:45pm. Looks like we have a window for a while
Final Husson 10 WSC 3
Trying to get some work done but I keep taking a peek at Little east TV for updates. Pitching and Offense - it has to come together. While Fontaine had a tough outing yesterday, it only stands to reason that you need as much pitching as possible to get through a tourney and in particular, the losers bracket. There are many schools of thought but the same school of thought was in place for the LEC tourney when Holiwaty started Fontaine in Game 1 vs KSC. Came back with Gilblair in game 2 vs USM and Musson vs. KSC again in the championship game. Holiwaty must have thought Fontaine gave Eastern the best matchup for the tourney.
The one thing that I always told my teams in a double elimination tourney is that once you get in the loser's bracket you are always facing someone else that has "just" lost a game. They may be more down in the mouth than you are at the present time. Take advantage of that and go forward.
Musson and a 13-2 thumping is just what the doctor ordered. Next up the loser of the USM vs Trinity game. Gilblair - rested vs. Who? Therrian, Bayer???
Quote from: ecfaninri on May 14, 2009, 04:43:23 PM
Musson and a 13-2 thumping is just what the doctor ordered. Next up the loser of the USM vs Trinity game. Gilblair - rested vs. Who? Therrian, Bayer???
That is a great point - The loser of the late game is in a world of trouble. Not only did you just lose with your ace on the hill, but you have the best lefty in NE waiting for you. I think it will be Bayer leading Trin over USM.
After 5 1/2 WPI 14 Babson 2
DGilblair....
Now I know why you are not posting. Little East TV has spotted you but you look a little out of place on the first place "hill". You must be in your glory watching all these games just minutes from your house. Wish Shawn Good Luck tomorrow from me and hopefully Matt will get a chance to redeem himself later in the weekend.
I have to go over to the NY site to see who Word is torturing today.
Nice job by Musson today........ Let's keep it going.
WPI 14- Babson 2 in the bottom of the sixth... its raining and its looking like the Trinity -USM game will start very late - if at all. I'm glad I am sitting at home watching it on the net while the Red Sox and Angels are tied at 4 in the 11th inning. Celtics and Bruins to come later on. Boy am I glad my wife is out with the girls tonight.
What happened in that Babson game. I just watched the Red Sox lose and i got to check on the game and its all WPI. Someone put Moc on suicide watch (thats a joke Moc no disrespect intended just know that you are a big babson fan) he can hang out with Jcon who has been on watch since UMB got whacked in the LEC tourny. I didnt see any of the game but i can guess what happened from teh score. What happens if USM and Trinity dont get teh game in tonight. 10am start tommorow???
LEC admin will probably bag the USM/Trin game until tomorrow as weather radar looks too green. They will announce after the WPI/Babson game.
Have to think all games get pushed up tomorrow ::)
Final Score WPI 15 - Babson 5
Trinity-USM game moved to Friday at 10 AM
Now that the Trinity USM game has been moved to tomorrow morning does that mean there will be 5 games tomorrow? Anyone know?
Quote from: EasternCtFan on May 14, 2009, 10:35:26 PM
Now that the Trinity USM game has been moved to tomorrow morning does that mean there will be 5 games tomorrow? Anyone know?
I THOUGHT THERE WOULD BE ALSO---BUT, NO--THE SCHEDULE IS ON THE ECSU SITE... 4 GAMES 9:45, 1PM 4:20, 7:30 OR SO... MUST BE EXTRA GAME(S) ON SAT.....
THEY MOVED THE BABSON/HUSSON GAME FROM 10AM TO 1PM, AND PLUGGED IN USM/TRINITY AT THE 9:40 A.M. SLOT.
THE WINNER OF BABSON/HUSSON, (ELIMINATION GAME) WAS ORIGINALLY GOING TO PLAY AGAIN AT 7:45PM...BUT, THEY NOW PLUGGED IN WPI VS USM/TRINITY WINNER AT THE 7:45PM SLOT..
So does Trinity and USM playing this morning put them at an advantage with another days rest or at a disadvantage because of two possible games today with the schedule
After 3 1/2 USM 0 Trinity 0
After 3 0-0
Final USM 0 Trinity 6
Not a bad game by Therrian for USM. Couple of bad pitches, and maybe a screwy hop here or there (espically the ball of Pisini's face at 2nd) He certainly pitched well enough for USM to win, but thier bats cant seem to figure out Bayer. If you are the Trinity coach do you run him back out there for the 9th up 4-0 maybe even more here in a second??? I think that i would because at this point its highly unlikely he will be able to pitch again in the regional so you might as well ride the horse till he dies
Its official 6-0 Trinity what a game pitched by Bayer
Quote from: KSCfan on May 15, 2009, 12:10:26 PM
Not a bad game by Therrian for USM. Couple of bad pitches, and maybe a screwy hop here or there (espically the ball of Pisini's face at 2nd) He certainly pitched well enough for USM to win, but thier bats cant seem to figure out Bayer. If you are the Trinity coach do you run him back out there for the 9th up 4-0 maybe even more here in a second??? I think that i would because at this point its highly unlikely he will be able to pitch again in the regional so you might as well ride the horse till he dies
USM just couldn't get the big hit: you need 2 outs hits against a pitcher that good...
Hockeyfan that is a great point about 2 out hits. It also seemed that eveytime USM might get something going Bayer would roll the double play ball on them. I was very impressed with Bayer, and now Trinity meets WPI in the winners bracket final. I for one did not see that match up when the tournament started. Love Regional Baseball, upsets a plenty
hockey77fan....
Who does USM throw this afternoon vs. Gilblair?
Quote from: ecfaninri on May 15, 2009, 01:04:41 PM
hockey77fan....
Who does USM throw this afternoon vs. Gilblair?
Tough Question: Herny, Yates, Hahn, Leach ( got good stuff)...I don't know...But If I had to guess I would say Herny...
Final Babson 6 Husson 10
Final USM 2 ECSU 7
Hey Boys...I'm Baaaack
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z5UTNKXR8xw
The WNEC team had a bad day and bowed out of the NY Regional. Now I can devote all of my time to this regional. Sorry TEE guys no road trip this year...I cancelled the RV but left the security deposit there...
USM goes down in flames as Gilblair remembers he is Gilblair and that he is the best player in New England....congrats....their Darryl and all the TEE fans.
Interesting watching Coach HOFEddy in the post-game interviews talk about his team having to face Bayer & Gilblair back-to-back.
F, S, & HG v WPI next. Winner is in the catbird seat.
Word
Trin up early, but the big surprise is to see Anderson out there instead of Janiga.
ECSU is looming in the loser's bracket. Should be interesting to see when they bring back Fontaine.
Does Eastern have enough to beat the winners bracket champ twice on Sunday. Because let face it. Who ever wins tonight will be facing them on Sunday. Agree?
After 6 Trinity 8 WPI 0
TEEIW remains in waiting.
Looks like pitching wasn't sharp. 5 errors, the defense certainly didn't help. And the hitters, once again, struggled against decent pitching. Sounds like a trifecta and the prize is a long ugly bus ride home with many flying clipboards..
didn't think they had the pitching to survive a regional this strong but I certainly did not envision Husson remaining in CT longer than Sullen Maine. :o
Quote from: Stump on May 15, 2009, 10:25:31 PM
TEEIW remains in waiting.
Looks like pitching wasn't sharp. 5 errors, the defense certainly didn't help. And the hitters, once again, struggled against decent pitching. .
I think they may have faced a little better than DECENT pitching...
Final Trinity 14 WPI 0
Agreed hockeyfan - Most teams in the country would come out of the Bayer/Gilblair gauntlet in the same day 0-2. Could very well be the best two pitchers in the country - certainly in the region. Very tough draw for USM today.
Trinity up bi in the 8th - 14-0
Interesting, I think that Holiwaty pulled Gilblair after 7 strong innings and 14 K's to save an inning or 2 for a possible Sunday matchup with Trinity. I say possible because Husson can hit and Conor Fahey is looming for a losers bracket final. Eastern used Fontaine to close out the game though USM loaded the bases with two outs and D'Alfonso was in the on deck circle when the game ended.
Schult will probably go in the morning vs. Husson and who knows from there. Kukucka, Tingley, and Wojick has pitched a total of 4 innings on Wednesday.
Final ECSU 18 Husson 3
After 1 WPI 1 ECSU 0
Props to the Little East!
Great Video stream.
After 3 1/2 WPI 1 ECSU 1
Tied at 1-1, end of 3.
The ECSU runner scored from third on a hot grounder to the WPI SS. The batted ball was scooting along the ground. The SS came in front of the ball, and then the ball took a big hop and hit the SS above the "P" in the jersey.
The SS was in position, in front of the ball. the ball bounced off his chest in front of him. The runner was safe at first and a run scored.
This is the 12th game on this field since Wednesday. Is there anyone arguing support for not giving an error to the SS, but rather a hit on that grounder?
After 6 1/2 WPI 4 ECSU 3
Ralph as a former SS, I agree completely! On our spring trip infield fielding % were always lower because the infields we were playing on were so hard and the ball would jump like you mentioned all the time. When we got back up North the ground was a little softer the ball stayed down for you. It could have saved me 10+ errors over four years!!
Some pretty special ball players this week. Bayer, Killeen, Gilblair, Fahey, and D'Alfonso have been a joy to watch play.
Finally - Random question: Hamilton is in NY, but plays in a NE conference. What region are they in? If they play a NE team mid-week is it an in-region game? They play mainly NY teams mid-week so I was trying to get an idea of what their situation.
Final WPI 5 ECSU 6 What a game....
WOW!!!!!!!!!!!!
WHAT A GAME!!!!!!!!
Congrats ECSU. BIg, big hits for Schult, Gilblair, and especially Hobbs.
My whole family watched on the internet. Could not believe it!!!!
Tons of admiration for Connor Fahey- what a stud!!!
2 more games and then off to Wisconsin. Good luck tomorrow.
I think Hamilton is an NE team but the midweek games count as regional games because of the proximity of those schools to Hamilton...just like when you guys play RPI, I think it counts as a regional game.
BTW, Rick, if you used to play ss for Williams, really enjoyed watching you play...but it may have been because my brother was throwing a shutout aginst you....I enjoyed just about everything that day.
Quote from: wordsmith on May 15, 2009, 07:37:45 PM
Hey Boys...I'm Baaaack
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z5UTNKXR8xw
The WNEC team had a bad day and bowed out of the NY Regional. Now I can devote all of my time to this regional. Sorry TEE guys no road trip this year...I cancelled the RV but left the security deposit there...
USM goes down in flames as Gilblair remembers he is Gilblair and that he is the best player in New England....congrats....their Darryl and all the TEE fans.
Interesting watching Coach HOFEddy in the post-game interviews talk about his team having to face Bayer & Gilblair back-to-back.
F, S, & HG v WPI next. Winner is in the catbird seat.
Word
Word,
Sorry for the WNEC loss, but they had a great season, and I firmly believe they are one of the top teams in NE.
With Words son in the WNEC coaching staff, I have a new team to root for
Am sure the TEE/We Nocked of EConn clan will have a shot at the road trip some time in the future ;D.
Good to have you back over to the best thread in D-3 BB!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I had Father Moriarty saying a Mass for The
EVIL EMPIRE, (is that ironic/satanic or what), today and they survived another day to meet Coach Decker and the Bantams!! Another Mass Sunday morning and we will be in good shape to sweep ;)
Quote from: Rick Vaughn on May 16, 2009, 04:22:57 PM
Ralph as a former SS, I agree completely! On our spring trip infield fielding % were always lower because the infields we were playing on were so hard and the ball would jump like you mentioned all the time. When we got back up North the ground was a little softer the ball stayed down for you. It could have saved me 10+ errors over four years!!
...
Finally - Random question: Hamilton is in NY, but plays in a NE conference. What region are they in? If they play a NE team mid-week is it an in-region game? They play mainly NY teams mid-week so I was trying to get an idea of what their situation.
Thanks for the feedback on the grounder. If an infielder is in correct position, and keeps the ball in front of himself, then I will allow a bad hop to go as an infield hit. Now thru the legs or under the glove...that is something different.
An opponent within a 200-mile radius of your campus is also an in-region game.
How did this kid do it?
"Fahey, who had pitched into the eighth inning of his team's 7-6 first-round win over Suffolk Wednesday, carried a seven-hitter into the ninth inning. In three starts over the last eight days, Fahey has thrown in excess of 400 pitches."
Current Trinity pitching status:
Game date Opposing team Score r h e/ r h e Pitcher of record INN Pitched
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May 03, 2009 Wesleyan 6-7 L 6 12 3/ 7 13 4 A. Janiga (L 5-2) 4.2 Ramsey 3.0
May 08, 2009 vs Wesleyan W 13-6 13 13 4/ 6 11 4 J. Ramsey (W 6-1) 5.2 Anderson 2.1
May 09, 2009 vs Williams W 8-3 8 12 4/ 3 5 2 J. Bayer (W 10-0) 9.0
May 10, 2009 vs Tufts W 7-3 7 11 8/ 3 7 3 C. OS-Pierce (W 2-0) 4.0 Janiga 5.0
May 13, 2009 vs Westfield State W 6-4 6 9 2/ 4 8 0 J. Ramsey (W 7-1) 6.0 Janiga 2.1
May 15, 2009 vs Southern Maine W 6-0 6 13 0/ 0 7 0 J. Bayer (W 11-0) 9.0
May 15, 2009 vs Worcester Tech W 14-0 14 17 1/ 0 4 7 D. Anderson (W 5-1) 8.0
SO DOES JANIGA or RAMSEY START FIRST GAME TOMORROW?
I think that Ramsey comes back and throws Game 1 tomorrow. Is Fontaine Game 1 for ECSU?
That said, unless someone does something spectacular tomorrow, Fahey is the star of this tournament. Aizenstadt showed some guts against ECSU on Wednesday, but Fahey trumped him with the heart he showed out there today. You could see in the hand shake line the entire Eastern team giving Fahey his props.
Fontaine or Musson?
DGilblair....
I agree Fahey only proved that he was the man today. I had the pleasure of watching him pitch last summer and he is just a strong, tough kid, with a great attitude, and a big heart. His performance in NE baseball and in particular this regional will be talked about for a long time. With that being said, ninth inning will be one to remember for just a long a time. With one out and Schult line drive off the glove of the 3rd baseman and then Shawn's liner off the first baseman set the stage for a classic mano-mano duel with Fahey and Castillo. How Mel laid off that 3-2 pitch, I'll never know. Then Hobbes, possibly batting for the last time in am Eastern uniform delivered the biggest hit of the season. Classic.... score tied and Perry put the ball in play to the 3rd baseman and really couldn't make up his mind whether to eat it or fire to 1st and it cost them ... Game over.
What a game. It had it all.
Let's just hope we can play 2 tomorrow.
Quote from: ecfaninri on May 17, 2009, 12:15:56 AM
DGilblair....
I agree Fahey only proved that he was the man today. I had the pleasure of watching him pitch last summer and he is just a strong, tough kid, with a great attitude, and a big heart. His performance in NE baseball and in particular this regional will be talked about for a long time. With that being said, ninth inning will be one to remember for just a long a time. With one out and Schult line drive off the glove of the 3rd baseman and then Shawn's liner off the first baseman set the stage for a classic mano-mano duel with Fahey and Castillo. How Mel laid off that 3-2 pitch, I'll never know. Then Hobbes, possibly batting for the last time in am Eastern uniform delivered the biggest hit of the season. Classic.... score tied and Perry put the ball in play to the 3rd baseman and really couldn't make up his mind whether to eat it or fire to 1st and it cost them ... Game over.
What a game. It had it all.
Let's just hope we can play 2 tomorrow.
ecfanirini,
Here's hoping you don't play 2 today...
BUT that you WIN 2 today!!!
Good luck to TEE.
Now to Fahey....can ya'll understand why MLB teams really struggle with whether to draft pitchers out of high school or let them
develop in college on someone elses dime?
400 pitches, that counted, not to mention warm-ups before the game (35-40) plus warm-ups between innings (6-8). All told in excess of 500 in a week. Wow.
Word :o
Quote from: wordsmith on May 17, 2009, 09:33:39 AM
Quote from: ecfaninri on May 17, 2009, 12:15:56 AM
DGilblair....
I agree Fahey only proved that he was the man today. I had the pleasure of watching him pitch last summer and he is just a strong, tough kid, with a great attitude, and a big heart. His performance in NE baseball and in particular this regional will be talked about for a long time. With that being said, ninth inning will be one to remember for just a long a time. With one out and Schult line drive off the glove of the 3rd baseman and then Shawn's liner off the first baseman set the stage for a classic mano-mano duel with Fahey and Castillo. How Mel laid off that 3-2 pitch, I'll never know. Then Hobbes, possibly batting for the last time in am Eastern uniform delivered the biggest hit of the season. Classic.... score tied and Perry put the ball in play to the 3rd baseman and really couldn't make up his mind whether to eat it or fire to 1st and it cost them ... Game over.
What a game. It had it all.
Let's just hope we can play 2 tomorrow.
ecfanirini,
Here's hoping you don't play 2 today...BUT that you WIN 2 today!!!
Good luck to TEE.
Now to Fahey....can ya'll understand why MLB teams really struggle with whether to draft pitchers out of high school or let them develop in college on someone elses dime?
400 pitches, that counted, not to mention warm-ups before the game (35-40) plus warm-ups between innings (6-8). All told in excess of 500 in a week. Wow.
Word :o
I appreciate the concern about overuse, at any level. I went back to the WPI page and found his most recent use in the boxscores for the month of May.
Worcester State (http://wpi.prestosports.com/sports/bsb/2008-09/stats/bb09gm39.htm) -- 111 pitches on May 9th
Framingham State (http://wpi.prestosports.com/sports/bsb/2008-09/stats/bb09gm36.htm) -- 7 pitches in 0.2 innings of relief on May 3rd
Fitchburg State (http://wpi.prestosports.com/sports/bsb/2008-09/stats/bb09gm34.htm) -- no pitch count in a 7 hit win, facing 36 batters in 9.0 innings on April 27th.
The best protection that a college coach can have against charges of "pitcher overuse" is meticulous record-keeping.
Oh yeah, +1 word, for the correct use of the second person plural pronoun, y'all in the quoted post. ;)
Suffolk (http://wpi.prestosports.com/sports/bsb/2008-09/stats/bb09gm40.htm) -- 129 pitches in the opening game of the New England Regional on May 14th.
ECSU (http://wpi.prestosports.com/sports/bsb/2008-09/stats/bb09gm43.htm) -- 163 pitches on Saturday.
The NCAA really made a mistake placing teams in the regionals this yr as I beleive Trinity, ECSU, USM and WPI would have all won the NY regional this yr. The championship matchup there is RPI and Farmingdale State, come on!
Quote from: EasternCtFan on May 17, 2009, 10:59:20 AM
The NCAA really made a mistake placing teams in the regionals this yr as I beleive Trinity, ECSU, USM and WPI would have all won the NY regional this yr. The championship matchup there is RPI and Farmingdale State, come on!
Agreed, You have three teams from NE Regional that could be contenders in the CWS, ECSU, Trinity, WPI, and maybe even USM.
But, thats life, and as we have seen posted all along on these threads, if you want to go to the show, you need to find a way to keep winning!
After 7 1/2 ECSU 4 Trinity 5
Trinity had Eye black mustaches?? :o
Gotta luv it ;D
And people say I am irreverant! 8)
Word ;)
Final ECSU 4 Trinity 5
CONGRATULATIONS TO THE TRINITY BANTAMS FOR A GREAT NE REGIONAL CHAMPIONSHIP
GOOD LUCK TO THEM IN THE CWS. BRING HOME 2 IN A ROW!!!!!!!!!
Eye black mustaches or the real thing?
No, several players had eye black painted onto their upper lip.
To the ECSU Warriors:
Thanks for an extremely exciting season. Its has been a real pleasure watching thier season and getting to know Darrell and Barry.
A real gutsy bunch of guys who played thier hearts out coming out of the losers bracket to play in the championship game against the current D-III National Champions!!
Best of luck to all the ECSU seniors and in particular Shawn Gilblair who has been a truely outstanding ballplayer who I believe, has lot of good things ahead of him in baseball. To Matt Fontaine who will come back to be a key picher in next years team congrats on a 2009 fine performance!!! All the best to Rob, Mel, Travis , Jim, John, and Joe for an a tremendous 2009 season :)
Now its time to get behind the Bantams and wish them best of luck in the 2009 CWS in Wisconsin!!!!!!
As I sit here with the trophy in my lap staring at the likes of wood graham
and jeremiah, I can tell you one thing for sure; That ain't eye black. They're real very real. Let's get it done in Wisconsin.
As we near the last teams punching their tickets to Hooterville, Wisc. I have a thought or 2.
1) Congrats to Trinity - Now Go repeat guys and make New England proud.
2) Congrats to ESCU - Darn fine effort by you guys....I have admired your team for years much as I did the old NY Giants with Sam Huff and Frank Gifford...(ask your old man). I 'hated' them, but totally respected and admired them. same goes for ya'll. It was a pleasure rooting for you the past few days.
3)
Mid-Atlantic Host Kean Winning Team Kean
Mideast Host Adrian Winning Team ?? Adrian in Losers bracket finals
New England Host Eastern CT Winning Team Trinity (2nd Eastern CT)
New York Host Farmingdale Winning Team Farmingdale
South Host Salisbury Winning Team Shenandoah
West Host Linfield Winning Team ?/? George Fox ??
Midwest Hosted UW-Oshkosh Winning Team St. Thomas
Central Host Augustana Winning Team Undecided
So the home teams did pretty well for themselves this year. By my count:
New England had ESC in the finals and Trinity (who travelled the 23 minutes home each night) as the champion.
Mid-Atlantic - Won by Host Kean
NY - Won by host Farmingdale
West George Fox (20 minutes from Linfield is battling Chapman for a spot in the WCS.
Mideast- Adrian in losers bracket finals
Just some fun stuff to think about...
Word
Quote from: EasternCtFan on May 17, 2009, 10:59:20 AM
The NCAA really made a mistake placing teams in the regionals this yr as I beleive Trinity, ECSU, USM and WPI would have all won the NY regional this yr. The championship matchup there is RPI and Farmingdale State, come on!
Quite possibly.
However there is something to be said for playing close to home for Trinity and ECSU. Maybe shipping WPI would have sufficed.
The geographic concentration of quality baseball in New England is rivaling the Chicago-area Midwest/West Regions for Men's basketball.
Next season, one of the Pool A bids consolidates. The North Atlantic affiliates with the NEAC to retain access to Pool A. (Two Pool A conferences that were going to lose their Pool A bids take action to retain access by affiliating.)
I have always said that good pitching beats good hitting and it did so today. Congratulations to Trinity and all their fans, me being one, just not today. It was a packed house at ECSU today and the teams did not disappoint. What more can you ask for, a one run game with the two best teams in New England and possibly the country. The bottom of the ninth two outs, bases loaded, New England pitcher of the year against the New England player of the year, it just dont get much better. Well I guess the final result could have been better for me personally and a few hundred others in attendance but it was a great game. ECSU had it's chances and it just didn't happen. I have said all year I didn't think Trinity had the pitching to win a tournament and they proved me wrong on that, stay in the winners bracket and you need not worry to much about it.
Word, I guess you can say the proof is in the pudding with home team flavor but Shawn had a little different view of it. When they had batting practice on Wednesday he said they had six players able to attend because of classes and the professors would not waiver on attendance. He said it would have been better to be on the road and only thinking about ball, but its hard to argue the results.
Quote from: DGilblair on May 17, 2009, 06:30:31 PM
I have always said that good pitching beats good hitting and it did so today. Congratulations to Trinity and all their fans, me being one, just not today. It was a packed house at ECSU today and the teams did not disappoint. What more can you ask for, a one run game with the two best teams in New England and possibly the country. The bottom of the ninth two outs, bases loaded, New England pitcher of the year against the New England player of the year, it just dont get much better. Well I guess the final result could have been better for me personally and a few hundred others in attendance but it was a great game. ECSU had it's chances and it just didn't happen. I have said all year I didn't think Trinity had the pitching to win a tournament and they proved me wrong on that, stay in the winners bracket and you need not worry to much about it.
Word, I guess you can say the proof is in the pudding with home team flavor but Shawn had a little different view of it. When they had batting practice on Wednesday he said they had six players able to attend because of classes and the professors would not waiver on attendance. He said it would have been better to be on the road and only thinking about ball, but its hard to argue the results.
Gilblair vs Bayer what a match-up. I saw Shawn in the post-game interview and knew he was taking it hard. But I will bet that given the same set of circumstances, any coach in D-III would, given the chance love to have Shawn Gilblair up to bat! I know I would. 100 times out of 100. I admire him as a young man who answered some tough questions from the press, something a lot of older, wiser, and very highly paid athletes haven't figured out.
I know you said a long time ago that Shawn chose ESC because he wanted to play for a championship. Well champions are defined in many ways, well he is a champion in my book.
He should be proud of his accomplishments and you should be proud as parents.
Word
First post but have been following this all season. This regional was as good as it gets. This game was classic. I have been a long time Trinity fan, having a son who was fortunate enough to be a part of their past success. I also have been a long time fan of ECSU, and Bill Holowaty. It was, believe or not, sad to see them lose. It was great to see Trinity win, but the best part is the respect they have for each other. There is no doubt that today matched the two best D3 programs in the country and a quarter inch of the bat barrel on Shawn Gilblairs swing was the difference. Best of luck to Trinity, and you can count on ECSU being a team to beat next year.
I also would like to see the NESCAC bashing end, I think Trinity has proved that the LEC does not dominate New England baseball. And the remarks about a weak non conference schedule should end, its how you finish.
This will be Trinity's 4th CWS in this decade. They are clearly the top program in NE.
I understgand the gripes about their schedule. They clearly should be challenging themselves more often. However, they didn't get to play the Eastern game because of rain this year, so that effected their SOS. Unfortunately, the NESCAC puts so many restrictions on how you schedule that there is nothing the schools can really do. I'd love to see the NESCAC bite the bullet and allow its teams to play a full 40 game schedule. It's not like the schools are going to lose any academic integrity.
Quote from: slick on May 17, 2009, 07:10:01 PM
First post but have been following this all season. This regional was as good as it gets. This game was classic. I have been a long time Trinity fan, having a son who was fortunate enough to be a part of their past success. I also have been a long time fan of ECSU, and Bill Holowaty. It was, believe or not, sad to see them lose. It was great to see Trinity win, but the best part is the respect they have for each other. There is no doubt that today matched the two best D3 programs in the country and a quarter inch of the bat barrel on Shawn Gilblairs swing was the difference. Best of luck to Trinity, and you can count on ECSU being a team to beat next year.
I also would like to see the NESCAC bashing end, I think Trinity has proved that the LEC does not dominate New England baseball. And the remarks about a weak non conference schedule should end, its how you finish.
Slick,
You are absolutely right!!! I said to myself today that a new D-III powerhouse, arrived in New England 3-4 yrs ago, and until ECSU and any other NE Team can beat Trinity and move to the CWS, they are and will be the best team in NE and in the country.
Trinity coaching staff has recruited wonderful athletes, who are some of the best students, (academically), in the country and they get both jobs done. I have been a critic on the West Region thread of Cal Tech, arguing that you
can be the best D-III baseball program and succeed acedemically concurrently. I see engineering, economics, chemistry, and some double majors as well in the bios of the Trinity roster! These guys deserve ALL the credit for thier hard work.
And, to top it off, you have one of the best coaches in the country.
No worries anymore on critics of Trinity schedule. ::)
Congrats again and best of luck in the CWS
Here is a real petty remark, how about giving Trinity a home field that represents a first class program , instead ofr one that is a step above Little League.
Nescac Fan, good to see you (post). My son and your brother threw against each other, remember?
I thought that was you, Slick....
So when does Trinity get a real college baseball field? Kind of tough to see the football field next to it that looks like a cathedral...
I think BIll Decker is a heck of a coach.
He builds his team around pitching and defense....a smart man. He always wins the big game. The Trinity faithful should feel very blessed to have him at the helm.
who knows about the field. Trinity powers would probably say "why change a good thing, so far, so good". But I am serious about the NESCAC deal, it is a great baseball conference. Except for a few, and that could change, they can play with anyone in the country and next year will prove it. The conference is loaded with young teams.
Going back to todays game, how impressive was Coach Holowaty, Shawn Gilblair and Will Musson??? They were right there, ready for Wisconsin, game in hand, then missed by inches, and had to explain what their feelings were moments after. Class act!! And Bill Decker was great, and then the audio went into a mute.
Son waqs at the game, said the mustaches were real.
Yeah, The last comments by the Trinity guys and Coach Decker were lost. A bummer!
However, I was extremely proud of ECSU, the Little East, LE/Bridgewater TV and all involved in , from my experience, THE BEST, D-III NE Regional I have attended.
I hope I see many more at ECSU Mansfield BB Comples in the future.
PS you Trinity guys can "adopt" the Mansfield facility as "home", after all, your only, what 25 miles away? and having Trinity in the NE Regionals every year will make for great D-III baseball, as was just witnessed.
The ECSU alums who coach the U of Maine Baseball Program, come down sometimes, when thier field in Orono is still frozen. :) Sort of like taking a mini trip to "Florida" 8)
The internet announcers said the 'staches were painted on with eye black...
If they are real then even better, Jeff Kent styl'n, Rick Flair profil'n, porn 'staches.
Appleton, Wiz-can-we-sin will never be the same....
Word
Word,
;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
We will miss this humor over the off season!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Unbelievable, seems like the season just flew by :o
Just want to say that there are some real class acts posting on this board and the ECSU team should be proud of their season, the game today was just a great baseball game no matter what team you were rooting for.
Bill Decker is certainly a class act and it really is impressive what he has managed to do in this decade. I have a couple of comments on the Trinity program which might explain some their success as a top academic school as well as baseball program:
If you look at last years national championship Trinity team, arguably the best d3 baseball team ever, it is interesting to note how many two sport athletes they had on that team. Kiely was recruited to play football and baseball, Same with Barnard, McGrath and Stafford, Graham played hockey and baseball his freshman year and I believe many others on the team chose not to play football and just concentrate on baseball. Jeff Natale, currently playing AAA ball with Pawtucket who led Trinity to 2 CWS in 2003 and 2005 was also a hockey baseball guy while Trinity. It seems as though Decker has recruited multi sport athletes who are good enough to play D1 but choose to play two sports in college instead at the D3 level.
Sorry but I have to disagree with those comments. Decker struck lightning with Natale and Kiely. One of my closest friends coached Jeff in high school. He was recruited for hockey and hockey only. He just so happened to be a phenomenal hitter, likely the best the NESCAC has ever seen.
And I do not think that Kiely was recruited to play baseball. He didn't even play his freshman year. The weird thing is that his high school pitching teammate was Chris Gingle, who was a top recruit at Tufts that ended up being a bust.
Decker is a phenomenal coach, but sometimes, you have to get lucky, too. He's made the most of it, though.
Congratulations to Trinity College on winning the 2009 NE Regional - Get ready Appleton - Here come the Bantams AGAIN!
I know that this weekend in Appleton, Wisconsin fans will see some great action, but it will be tough to beat the excitement of the NE Regional and the drama that ensued in the championship game. You had it all with some of the top players in the NE Region leaving it all on the line. THe posted attendance was 524? I sure there were a few more people who might have snuck in. There will be many of the people who left that game yesterday thinking - its a shame that both of these teams aren't going to the CWS.
This year was special in NE - 3 teams in the NE Regional ranked #1 at some point during the season. The NE region even had a team like Curry in the last rankings #14 and not playing in the regionals. What a year.
DGilblair.....
It has been a great ride. I have enjoyed sharing it with you and your family. Shawn, you showed your teammates how to prepare, how to play, and how to respect the game. I can only hope you are given the opportunity to continue your dream at the next level. If not - maybe Coach H could use another coach. And then that way we can still get to see your parents on gilblair hill.
What a career Eastern's four seniors had....4 Regionals and 2 CWS.... Not bad Tristen, Mags, Kooch, and Shawn. Be proud of the fact you played the game it was meant to be played.
Well said, NESCACfan. Trinity was "punished" for that weak SOS by being made # 3 in New Eng Regional, vs # 1 anywhere else--as we all know. ECSU was given home field, # 1 seed---well earned-----and Southern Me was also tossed in to this region---purposely, in my mind, to take down trinity in a #2 vs # 3 matchup-----2nd round of Regionals? wow---- that's just complete bogus, by the selection committee----creating that matchup of # 4 and # 6 is the U.S.----that early in any regional? Really---could be # 2 vs # 3 overall----if USM hadn't played ECSU (then KSC) in LEC tourney also to lower their 2 week # 1 ranking--all the way to # 6 in the final week....
ecsu----you summed it all up---as, "good pitching will beat good hitting" more times than not----thuse, USM 's demise-----thus WPI's demise (other than when Conor Fahey was throwing his own 400 pitches in 6 days??)) and thuse ECSU's demise in the end----as J. Bayer , Conor Fahey and Andrew Aizenstadt each had a lot to say about the final outcome of this New England Regional......
ECSU's losing to one of the best, upstart pitchers in the nation---yes, the nation----Andrew Aizenstadt, in the 1st round of this regional, was the one obstacle ECSU just could not overcome------close but, coming out of that losers' bracket-----with USM, WPI and TRINITY all waiting.......(all with great hitting) did not allow ECSU to go 5 pitchers deep without, eventually paying the price.
Just too many nationally ranked "ACES" in this one region........
Congrats to WPI and to Babson for well representing that little NEWMAC conference, while Wheaton sat home and watched for once. It's nice to see competition from all areas of New England.....
That 1st round win over ECSU, by Babson, really changed the rest of this regional.....
Quote from: wordsmith on May 17, 2009, 07:06:17 PM
Quote from: DGilblair on May 17, 2009, 06:30:31 PM
I have always said that good pitching beats good hitting and it did so today. Congratulations to Trinity and all their fans, me being one, just not today. It was a packed house at ECSU today and the teams did not disappoint. What more can you ask for, a one run game with the two best teams in New England and possibly the country. The bottom of the ninth two outs, bases loaded, New England pitcher of the year against the New England player of the year, it just dont get much better. Well I guess the final result could have been better for me personally and a few hundred others in attendance but it was a great game. ECSU had it's chances and it just didn't happen. I have said all year I didn't think Trinity had the pitching to win a tournament and they proved me wrong on that, stay in the winners bracket and you need not worry to much about it.
Word, I guess you can say the proof is in the pudding with home team flavor but Shawn had a little different view of it. When they had batting practice on Wednesday he said they had six players able to attend because of classes and the professors would not waiver on attendance. He said it would have been better to be on the road and only thinking about ball, but its hard to argue the results.
Gilblair vs Bayer what a match-up. I saw Shawn in the post-game interview and knew he was taking it hard. But I will bet that given the same set of circumstances, any coach in D-III would, given the chance love to have Shawn Gilblair up to bat! I know I would. 100 times out of 100. I admire him as a young man who answered some tough questions from the press, something a lot of older, wiser, and very highly paid athletes haven't figured out.
I know you said a long time ago that Shawn chose ESC because he wanted to play for a championship. Well champions are defined in many ways, well he is a champion in my book.
He should be proud of his accomplishments and you should be proud as parents.
Word
Thanks Word......I don't know you all that well having met you only once along with DChevy a couple times but you know quality people when you meet them and thats what both of you are. So you comments do mean more than just words on the computer screen. Thanks again to both of you and of course my TEE puppys ecfaninri and ALUM.
It is tough now that it's over and the fashion that it ended but thats baseball. It was funny after all the post game media stuff and the players were leaving the field Shawn walked over to me and my wife he looked at her and said mom are you alright and after all the nice, nice things that moms say he looked at me and said, I'm glad it was me and not someone else. So yes I'am very proud of him and I will sorely miss seeing him play just as you did with your son and Chevy will with his.
I tried to write a post on the National Topics board to follow-up the great post by RSSmith but my damn allergies kicked in. +1
Competitive baseball is a game which can be continued after college (sometimes a long time after college) by many players who are of a certain sufficient quality but are no longer and maybe never were of pro quality (or are of pro quality but do not desire to pursue pro baseball).
Quote from: frank uible on May 18, 2009, 07:34:11 PM
Competitive baseball is a game which can be continued after college (sometimes a long time after college) by many players who are of a certain sufficient quality but are no longer and maybe never were of pro quality (or are of pro quality but do not desire to pursue pro baseball).
He plans on playing somewhere this summer, maybe an independent team or something so you are correct but the DIII experience is over. I will still be a big LEC fan and take in many ECSU games it will just be different thats all.
At first, if he's good enough he can play for the Wenham Truckers and then when he becomes 40, he can play in the Roy Hobbs league
Dgilblair
What Shawn said to you after that final game is one of the nicest, classiest things that I have ever heard. I know you are super proud of him and you should be. It will probably be a long time before the LEC sees a player like him again. My son has told me many times that he has enormous respect for Shawn. The very best of luck to him as he pursues his dream.
Quote from: dchevy5 on May 21, 2009, 01:18:54 PM
Dgilblair
What Shawn said to you after that final game is one of the nicest, classiest things that I have ever heard. I know you are super proud of him and you should be. It will probably be a long time before the LEC sees a player like him again. My son has told me many times that he has enormous respect for Shawn. The very best of luck to him as he pursues his dream.
Thanks........very proud of him, four years ago we just hoped coach H would let him pitch and hit. No need to tell you how fast it goes. LEC has some players now that contend with him now so I'm not to sure about that.....besides he cheats......he pitches and hits. I would think more kids could do that if coaches would just let them. You know, what an advantage to have two players in one. Schult this year was great doing both and he will be a Junior next year, Musson may do both next year, the kid from RIC has a lot of talent.
Shawns on the five year plan with school so he'll play somewhere this summer and then back to the books. He was talking about the Schaumburg Flyers wanting him to play for them and some other team so we will see.
Afternoon gents,
Well so much for Northeast baseball in 2009. 0-4 and out the door to both Trinity and Farmingdale State.
Trinity, not sure what happened there, if we want to be biased we could say the trip through the NE Regional was so difficult it took the wind out of their sails.
As for Farmindale State, welp they got to Wizcanwesin and they remembered they were...Farmingdale State.
So now I turn my rooting interests to The College of Wooster, pronounced wooooooster and spelt wooster not Worcester. The City of Wooster, home of Rubbermaid, home of the most Amish in the country other than Lancaster County PA. and native county of my lovely and talented wife.
Go Scots
Word ;D
I've heard of Wooster - John Dean got his undergraduate degree there, didn't he?
Yes, John Dean is an alumni.
The other thing Wooster is famous for is Smuckers (the jelly people).
I heard from a relative that due to some very tough economic times Smuckers Jelly Company was thinking of merging with a big midwestern oatmeal company named Mothers Oats.
The name of the new company will be ...Mother Smuckers.. ;D ;D
Sorry that is a really old Wayne County joke.
Word 8)
Word. .....
Your point about Trinity having to get through the NE regional should not be poo-pooed. I'm sorry but a team like Trinity having to play USM, Conor Fahey and Eastern to get to the CWS could have been run down. Remember, Trinity had to bring in Bayer to close out the Championship game, and he struggled a little bit then.
Trinity lost because it played lousy defense...something that has been it's achilles heel this year and in years past.
Bayer threw so many innings this year....looks like it may have finally caught up. Kean was having alot of very comfortable at-bats.
The regional set up perfectly for Trinity. They were able to get by Westfield without using you know who. They got to use Bayer against SMe. They got WPI in the winner's bracket final without having to face Fahey or their #2. And they hung on vs. Eastern.
But this wasn't the Trinity from last year. Dibenedetto and Bourdon were very solid defensively last year.
Look at Bayer's stats this year. He either gave up an obscene amount of unearned runs, or his best friend was the statistician.
NESCACfan....
Good points... Trinity did not face Fahey but did have to go through what has been called by other posters - the super regional. But that's history and everyone in NE will just have to regroup and begin the process of prepping for 2010. It is a hollow feeling after going through a terrific season , making the trip to Appleton. playing two games in two days and then getting on a plane and returning before the holiday weekend is over. I know, been there, done that in 2007.
I still will remember the regional in Willimantic as a classic, not a CWS, but a classic. I got to see 3 of the topr 10 teams in the country and an All-American in Fahey in one place for 5 days. Not bad.
See this is where we need JConn back in the mix to speak to conspiracy theory.
Did the NCAA powers-to-be not want yet another champion from NE?
Did they purposely keep USM, TEE, and the defending champs F, S & HG all in the same region to eliminate 2 of the top 3 teams in the country?
Why was WNEC shipped to NY and not one of these Top 6 teams?
Jim Garrison we turn our lonely eyes to you 'cause only you can 'splain a conspiracy like this.
From the Grassy Knoll Motel
Clay Shaw ;)
Quote from: wordsmith on May 24, 2009, 09:42:23 AM
See this is where we need JConn back in the mix to speak to conspiracy theory.
Did the NCAA powers-to-be not want yet another champion from NE?
Did they purposely keep USM, TEE, and the defending champs F, S & HG all in the same region to eliminate 2 of the top 3 teams in the country?
Why was WNEC shipped to NY and not one of these Top 6 teams?
Jim Garrison we turn our lonely eyes to you 'cause only you can 'splain a conspiracy like this.
From the Grassy Knoll Motel
Clay Shaw ;)
Come on WOrd do you think it coould be true? Say it ain't so.....say it ain't so. Do you not think the best 8 teams in the country played in Fox Cities this weekend? Maybe not but you could probably say that every year. I would still like to see a best of three for the finales of each region and the WS but I don't know how it would or could be done.
Quote from: DGilblair on May 24, 2009, 10:31:34 AM
Quote from: wordsmith on May 24, 2009, 09:42:23 AM
See this is where we need JConn back in the mix to speak to conspiracy theory.
Did the NCAA powers-to-be not want yet another champion from NE?
Did they purposely keep USM, TEE, and the defending champs F, S & HG all in the same region to eliminate 2 of the top 3 teams in the country?
Why was WNEC shipped to NY and not one of these Top 6 teams?
Jim Garrison we turn our lonely eyes to you 'cause only you can 'splain a conspiracy like this.
From the Grassy Knoll Motel
Clay Shaw ;)
Come on WOrd do you think it coould be true? Say it ain't so.....say it ain't so. Do you not think the best 8 teams in the country played in Fox Cities this weekend? Maybe not but you could probably say that every year. I would still like to see a best of three for the finales of each region and the WS but I don't know how it would or could be done.
Best of three in each region? Then you are getting into funding and length-of-season questions at that point.
Consider the West Region... Chapman beats NWC
Co-champ George Fox in the 11th and final game of the West Region. Hmmm... NWC
Co-champ is the runner-up in the West Region? Where was the other NWC Co-champ?
The other NWC Co-champ, Pac Lutheran, was sitting home and did not get an at-large Pool C bid.
I think that there is so much parity in D-III baseball that 70 of the 160 teams that start the conference tourneys going after 32 Pool A bids are good enough to be in the Regionals. We get to see 13 Pool C bids, but that means that about 25 teams are good enough to make the regionals, but proverbially struck out.
Quote from: Ralph Turner on May 24, 2009, 10:47:14 AM
Quote from: DGilblair on May 24, 2009, 10:31:34 AM
Quote from: wordsmith on May 24, 2009, 09:42:23 AM
See this is where we need JConn back in the mix to speak to conspiracy theory.
Did the NCAA powers-to-be not want yet another champion from NE?
Did they purposely keep USM, TEE, and the defending champs F, S & HG all in the same region to eliminate 2 of the top 3 teams in the country?
Why was WNEC shipped to NY and not one of these Top 6 teams?
Jim Garrison we turn our lonely eyes to you 'cause only you can 'splain a conspiracy like this.
From the Grassy Knoll Motel
Clay Shaw ;)
Come on WOrd do you think it coould be true? Say it ain't so.....say it ain't so. Do you not think the best 8 teams in the country played in Fox Cities this weekend? Maybe not but you could probably say that every year. I would still like to see a best of three for the finales of each region and the WS but I don't know how it would or could be done.
Best of three in each region? Then you are getting into funding and length-of-season questions at that point.
Consider the West Region... Chapman beats NWC Co-champ George Fox in the 11th and final game of the West Region. Hmmm... NWC Co-champ is the runner-up in the West Region? Where was the other NWC Co-champ?
The other NWC Co-champ, Pac Lutheran, was sitting home and did not get an at-large Pool C bid.
I think that there is so much parity in D-III baseball that 70 of the 160 teams that start the conference tourneys going after 32 Pool A bids are good enough to be in the Regionals. We get to see 13 Pool C bids, but that means that about 25 teams are good enough to make the regionals, but proverbially struck out.
Ralph, I agree about the parity in D3, I said that way back when I first started posting here. I was surprised at how close the competion was reguardless of record in most cases and I still am. Pool bids is another issue to me but I see your point. Money, money, money and D3 doesn't generate any.
Word
I dont think that there was a conspiracy theory but i do agree 100% that one out of those three teams should have been shipped out instead of WNEC.
Quote from: DGilblair on May 24, 2009, 10:59:03 AM
Quote from: Ralph Turner on May 24, 2009, 10:47:14 AM
Quote from: DGilblair on May 24, 2009, 10:31:34 AM
Quote from: wordsmith on May 24, 2009, 09:42:23 AM
Why was WNEC shipped to NY and not one of these Top 6 teams?
Best of three in each region? Then you are getting into funding and length-of-season questions at that point.
Consider the West Region... Chapman beats NWC Co-champ George Fox in the 11th and final game of the West Region. Hmmm... NWC Co-champ is the runner-up in the West Region? Where was the other NWC Co-champ?
The other NWC Co-champ, Pac Lutheran, was sitting home and did not get an at-large Pool C bid.
I think that there is so much parity in D-III baseball that 70 of the 160 teams that start the conference tourneys going after 32 Pool A bids are good enough to be in the Regionals. We get to see 13 Pool C bids, but that means that about 25 teams are good enough to make the regionals, but proverbially struck out.
Ralph, I agree about the parity in D3, I said that way back when I first started posting here. I was surprised at how close the competion was reguardless of record in most cases and I still am. Pool bids is another issue to me but I see your point. Money, money, money and D3 doesn't generate any.
As for Keeping WNEC in New England and shipping USM to NY, I can see that point.
USM was a Pool C so I can see sending them to the New York Regional. WNEC was the TCCC Pool A, so I would have kept them in New England.
Didn't ECSU and Trinity basically play "at home"?
ECSU obviously played at home, and for all intents and purposes so did Trinity. ECSU were a base hit away from potentially going to the CWS. J Bayer saved it for the Bantams!! ( a smart move by Coach Decker as ECSU hitting would have gotten to Ramsey). Trinity and ECSU had Fielding % in same ballpark, ie 0.94-.95, therefore, when you play the top teams in the country who have the hitting, pitching, AND defense, the aforementioned number will eventually catch up with you. ECSU saw this in 2006/7, Trinity this week. Bad defence is a killer!!. The recruiting programs need to focus in on this, IMHO!
But, I think except for, MAAAYBE, Farmingdale, you had the best teams playing in the CWS. Chapman caught a bad break, as Eastern did last year, with thier ACE on "disability". You know if Kitchens was heathy, they would certainly be a favorite this year, if not THE favorite. ECSU would likely have played in WI last year, with a good chance to win it, if they had a healthy Gilblair.
Nevertheless, ECSU, Trinity, and USM can be proud of thier seasons, with a ton of great players getting all kinds of awards. With the coaching, current players, and future recruiting USM, Trinity, Keene, and ECSU has, it is not a matter of IF they will take another walnut and bronze, it is just a matter of WHEN, they will be National Champs in the next 2-3 yrs!! We just need to be patient :)
Word,
I put a call into Oliver Stone today, he will make the sequel to "JFK", called "Crossfire in Mansfield" ;D ;D ;D
ECSU
It get tiring to hear all the "what if" regarding injuries---in fact nobody knows what would happen if all rosters were 100% healthy---you play with the cards that you are dealt and go with it---no excuses
I agree that we have some great baseball in the region but lets not cheapen it with the "what ifs".
TRhit,
First of all, the game of baseball is a "what if", with every pitch made to home plate from day one of everyone season
Second, I would argue I have not "cheapened" the region in my statements, just the opposite, I believe I have built a case for the fact that we DO HAVE the best D3 Baseball in the country in NE.
And, I reitterate, if a top d3 program loses its ACE, (who also happens to be one of the top pitchers in the country), do not tell me it does not affect thier chances to get to the college world series!!!! It is not a "what if", its a fact!
I certainly know injuries go with the territory.
Ask the odds makers in Las Vegas if they disregard the "what ifs" ::)
Quote from: ECSUalum on May 24, 2009, 07:47:39 PM
And, I reitterate, if a top d3 program loses its ACE, (who also happens to be one of the top pitchers in the country), do not tell me it does not affect thier chances to get to the college world series!!!! It is not a "what if", its a fact!
I certainly know injuries go with the territory.
Ask the odds makers in Las Vegas if they disregard the "what ifs" ::)
it can definitely effect a team's outlook, but making the Series can still be done....ECSU should know better than anyone :) In 2002 Marietta lost DeSalvo for the season (who was by far the best pitcher in DIII), and they still made it back to the World Series, and eventually lost to ECSU in the title game. Things may have been different if DeSalvo was healthy, but maybe not. Inuries happen, and teams have to work around them.
Quote from: ECSUalum on May 24, 2009, 06:24:24 PM
ECSU obviously played at home, and for all intents and purposes so did Trinity. ...
But, I think except for, MAAAYBE, Farmingdale, you had the best teams playing in the CWS. ...
Nevertheless, ECSU, Trinity, and USM can be proud of their seasons, ...
ECSUalum, thanks for the comments on the New England bracket.
As for Farmingdale, we have to assess what they did. They came out of a bracket that had Cortland, Ithaca and RPI, (not to mention Clarkson and WNEC). I know that FSU wasn't my favorite in that bracket.
Is this the 4th season for Farmingdale baseball, or just the 4th season for Keith Osik?
Ralph,
Thanks, You maybe correct, Farmingdale St may be a sleeper team in the future.
I was nice to see them make the CWS and beat the perennials in the NY Regional at thier home field, nice Cinderella this year :) :) :)
Quote from: Ralph Turner on May 25, 2009, 09:56:01 AM
Is this the 4th season for Farmingdale baseball, or just the 4th season for Keith Osik?
Found the answer...
Osik's 4th season! He is building a solid program. How long does he wish to stay at Farmingdale? Is it close to home? Has he developed a foundation in the Farmingdale State family that can provided a rewarding career as a head coach?
http://www.farmingdalesports.com/sports/bsb/archives/index
Pat Coleman's article sums up the importance of good defense and minimizing mental errors in getting deep in the National Championships. Also, check out the Wooster College and UST fielding % on the Championship web site under statistics - EXCELLENT!!!
http://www.d3baseball.com/notables/2009/05/26/little-things-add-up-for-tommies.html
College and University Rosters for June 4th NEIBA All Star at Campanelli Stadium, Brockton MA.
http://nutmeg.easternct.edu/mt-static/athletics/2009%20NEIBA%20All-Star%20Game%20Rosters.pdf
New England Regional - Hosted by Eastern Connecticut State University at Eastern Baseball Stadium
http://www.littleeast.com/images/bsb/action/Web_site/eastern-base-stadium.jpg
Wheaton is in
wnec is in
st joes is in
castleton come on down
still looking for the mascac,nescac, little east to name a few any one want to throw out some possible seedings.
1. Wheaton
2. Tufts (nescac tournament winner)
3. St joes
4. Keene state ( lec tourny)
5. Eastern ( pool c)
6. Westfield (mascac)
7. Castleton
8.?????????????
Quote from: KSCfan on May 03, 2010, 12:22:07 PM
Wheaton is in
wnec is in
st joes is in
castleton come on down
still looking for the mascac,nescac, little east to name a few any one want to throw out some possible seedings.
1. Wheaton
2. Tufts (nescac tournament winner)
3. St joes
4. Keene state ( lec tourny)
5. Eastern ( pool c)
6. Westfield (mascac)
7. Castleton
8.?????????????
did you just forget about WNEC or you believe they will get shipped out?
Nope I just totally overlooked them sorry they would be
my three and slide the rest down one sorry about that I knew their should of been 8
2010 NCAA Division III
New England Regional Baseball Tournament
May 18-23, 2010
Participant Manual
Hosted by Eastern Connecticut State University and
The Little East Conference
http://www.littleeast.com/documents/2010/4/29/2010ncaanewenglandregionalpacket.pdf?id=1043
Useful info for Teams, Parents, Fans, others
KSU 15 wins and 4 losses in last 19 games. WHO IS HOTTER? OM
Regional picture getting a bit clearer as more tickets are punched...
Here is what I think the eight team tournament will look like at this point if Worcester wins MASCAC
1. Tufts (NESCAC)
2. Wheaton (NEWMAC)
3. Western New England (TCCC)
4. Eastern Connecticut (LEC Champ)
5. Westfield (Pool C)
6. St. Joe's (GNAC)
7. Worcester (MASCAC)
8. Castleton St. (NEAC)
If Westfield wins twice
1. Tufts
2. Wheaton
3. WNEC
4. ECSU
5. Westfield
6. Keene St.
7. St. Joes
8. Castleton
Bowdoin made a good push for a pool C bid by making it to the NESCAC championship game but I still think Keene has the upperhand especially if they can get to the LEC semi-final or final.
Castleton has the NEAC/NAC automatic bid. Westfield losing puts a lot of pressure on Keene State and ECSU.
yes it does RSS!
It appears Westfield now has first crack at an at-large bid based on the rankings and all that. But going by other things I still think Keene and Eastern are stronger teams regardless of records or what not. I think that will come in play when final decisions are made.
So now with Worcester in here is what I think:
1. Tufts (NESCAC)
2. Wheaton (NEWMAC)
3. WNEC (TCCC)
4. LEC Winner
5. Westfield St. (MASCAC Runner-Up)
6. LEC Runner-Up
7. Worcester St. (MASCAC)
8. St. Joseph's (GNAC)
Castleton gets shipped to New York.
What if Keene and or Eastern dont make the finals. What if say Umass boston wins it and Eastern and Keene dont make it to the final game. Who is the Pool C long shot with thier upset hats on for the LEC tournament this weekend
Hobbesy
If either Eastern and Keene St wins the tourney but the other isn't the runner-up, do you really think the LEC deserves an at large bid?
Ecanfan-
Well I guess you are right. I guess I figure Keene and Eastern will be in the LEC final. If not I still think Keene and Eastern have a good shot of getting into the tournament as at-large teams.
If either keene or eastern doesnt win and dont make it, I think Eastern gets the nod over Keene KSCfan.
How close will the determination between the 1 and 2 seeds be with Tufts and Wheaton?
Didn't see the ECAC NE tourney linked anywhere. If you have not seen it, here it is.
http://www.ecacsports.com/championships/2010_Spring_Championships/new_england_baseball_release.pdf (http://www.ecacsports.com/championships/2010_Spring_Championships/new_england_baseball_release.pdf)
Quote from: YA, Boy on May 11, 2010, 12:31:34 AM
How close will the determination between the 1 and 2 seeds be with Tufts and Wheaton?
Close, but the top seed should be set as Tufts...They were the top seed going into this week and did nothing to hurt their resume (in fact they improved it). Therefore, #1 seed in NE. I think the Jumbo's impressive winning percentage is likely what puts them over Wheaton. There is no difference in their record's against common opponents (Both 5-1), so it's tough to swap them.
If Keene does not win the LEC, I still think they will be sweating bullets come selection time. It is very difficult to get an at-large bid, especially when you have 13 loses (possibly one more). I know that Keene has the #3 strength of schedule and has quality wins, but I just feel like they have to win the LEC to get in the regionals. Westfield St losing in the MASCAC really hurt Keene because I feel that Westfield St has a much better shot to get an at-large. I mean look at Wheaton and Curry last year, they were 30-12 and 34-7 overall respectively and neither received an at-large bid. I think that ECSU should also do their best to win the LEC because an at-large would not be a given for them either. ECSU has a better shot than Keene of getting an at-large bid because they are hosting the tournament and they have the history. Since Cortland St lost in their conference tournament, I actually think that there is a better chance that a NE team does not get shipped out.
Here are my seedings as of now...
1. Tufts
2. Wheaton
3. WNEC
4. LEC Winner
5. St. Joes
6. Westfield St
7. Worcester St
8. Castleton St
does the long layoff hurt or help teams?
Quote from: GBearsAlum15 on May 11, 2010, 11:23:52 AM
If Keene does not win the LEC, I still think they will be sweating bullets come selection time. It is very difficult to get an at-large bid, especially when you have 13 loses (possibly one more). I know that Keene has the #3 strength of schedule and has quality wins, but I just feel like they have to win the LEC to get in the regionals. Westfield St losing in the MASCAC really hurt Keene because I feel that Westfield St has a much better shot to get an at-large. I mean look at Wheaton and Curry last year, they were 30-12 and 34-7 overall respectively and neither received an at-large bid. I think that ECSU should also do their best to win the LEC because an at-large would not be a given for them either. ECSU has a better shot than Keene of getting an at-large bid because they are hosting the tournament and they have the history. Since Cortland St lost in their conference tournament, I actually think that there is a better chance that a NE team does not get shipped out.
Here are my seedings as of now...
1. Tufts
2. Wheaton
3. WNEC
4. LEC Winner
5. St. Joes
6. Westfield St
7. Worcester St
8. Castleton St
GBears,
Not sure I agree with your assessment, but it does not matter because as they say some votes are weighed and some votes are counted. My votes are neither weighed nor counted in the grand scheme of things. But I do have an opinion. Thus...
KSC played a more difficult schedule than Westfield; KSC had 4 more losses than Westfield with that tougher schedule. Other than the WNEC win I don't see any really strong/quality wins for Westfield, yes they beat Castleton (Yawn), and Amherst (OK) and even WPI (before WPI remembered that they were WPI). They could not, absolutely could not get past Worcester St. losing 4 times :o to them. Oh and by the way ladies the Westfield team also lost to one Keene State.
KSC on the other hand had losses to Babson, Wheaton Amherst, EConn, WNEC, RIC, & UMB among others. With some quality wins over EConn, Wheaton, UMB, Suffolk, Curry, RIC, and oh, did I mention, Westfield state?
So if KSC has a deep run in the LEC tourney and does not win then I feel they should get an at-large; will they? dat be da question - the answer is go out and win the LEC and don't leave it in the hands of the voters.
Word
GBears-
I think Eastern and Keene have an edge because of the conference they play in as well as past history. Westfield is not a lock just because they were ranked third in the first two NCAA polls. They play in a very subpar conference (MASCAC) that hurts them. Yes they had some good wins this year but I can very easily see them not getting a bid.
Like I said I think if Keene or Eastern dont make the final, then Eastern will have the edge. If I am Keene, I need to make it to the championship game, win or lose, to have a chance at an at-large bid. I also think Eastern needs to make it out of the first day (they could lose twice day one) to have a shot.
Honestly, I just dont see any other team in the LEC making it to the championship game.
Foto-
As for the layoff helping or hurting, I think its a wash. It helps because teams can rest their pitchers but it hurts because you get rusty and lose any momentum you would have built while winning your tournament. WNEC is a great example. They got a week and half off to rest their staff that threw alot of innings but they also lost the momentum they gained from winning five games in four days.
Hobbesy and Word--
I agree with you guys completely. I am not saying Westfield St is a lock, I just have a feeling they will get in if say Keene doesn't get to the finals. Eastern should be alright no matter what, unless like you said Hobbesy, they go out on day one (very unlikely). I compare the Westfield St situation this year to the Curry situation last year. However, Curry does play in a tougher conference than Westfield St, and they still got left out at 34-7. I just think that the way things have gone this year that Westfield St has a decent shot. Hard to argue a 30-9 record, but I think you guys are right that their MASCAC and non-conference schedule aren't anything to brag about. I just know that at-large bids are hard to come by, which is why I believe that Keene has to win the LEC (automatic bid) or be in the championship game to even have a chance.
Hobbesy,
I agree that Eastern should have an edge, but I am biased. Westfield lost four times to Worcester. Enough said. Eastern did lose to Plymouth St., West Conn, Roger Williams but did have wins over Tufts, Trinity, and Wesleyan late in the season. I like the strength of schedule setup. There is no arguing of how wins are interpreted.
Layoffs... I like how the LEC is this week. Momentum is a good thing. Sunday's must wins to host for Eastern surely came at a good time for the slumping Warrior hitters. Those two wins could carry the team past the first day.
ECSUalum and TEEfan where are you guys?
Speaking of Curry, do they get back into the conversation if they win the ECAC tournament this weekend?
RSSmith...
Is the ECAC the same as the N.I.T. basketball tournament? (Not In Tournament) or is it a "B.W.L.O.C.T" ( because we lost our tournament ) tournament?
Quote from: ecfaninri on May 11, 2010, 05:03:48 PM
RSSmith...
Is the ECAC the same as the N.I.T. basketball tournament? (Not In Tournament) or is it a "B.W.L.O.C.T" ( because we lost our tournament ) tournament?
I'm not sure. I think the games are scheduled well in advance of the season's end and are included in the 40 non-tournament games that a D3 team can play. Usually, the tournaments are played by eight .500ish teams; however, this year, Curry is in the New England tournament and FDU-Fordham is in the Greater-Metro Tournament. Both of those teams (which didn't win their conference tournaments), with an additional three in-region wins, might be considered for Pool C.
RSS-
I think these games are considered post season games and are not considered part of the 40 regular season games. Teams are picked to play based on some of the same criteria for NCAA tournament play. The 8 NE teams are all second tier teams that had good years this season.
Last year WPI won the NE ECAC tournament and earned an at-large bid to the NCAA tournament. It can happen and those three wins are very valuable to these teams. Curry can make a bid by winning three games but if they didnt make it last year with seven losses then it is highly unlikely they will make it this year with 13 losses.
Quote from: Hobbesy on May 11, 2010, 06:09:27 PM
RSS-
I think these games are considered post season games and are not considered part of the 40 regular season games. Teams are picked to play based on some of the same criteria for NCAA tournament play. The 8 NE teams are all second tier teams that had good years this season.
Last year WPI won the NE ECAC tournament and earned an at-large bid to the NCAA tournament. It can happen and those three wins are very valuable to these teams. Curry can make a bid by winning three games but if they didnt make it last year with seven losses then it is highly unlikely they will make it this year with 13 losses.
Thanks. I just thought that maybe this year, with Curry's .533 SOS and with Southern Maine and Trinity (for example) out of the equation, Curry might play itself back into the conversation,
I agree with Word's assessment. I dont think at this point you can compare Westfield State' s season with KSC's. Keene has come on very strong and but for a stupid loss to UMB would have been undisputed first in the LEC. I think unless it's two and out they have a real solid chance at the at large, even if they dont win the LEC. Keene also has a win against Brockport who is a tournament team, and played Hopkins tough to a 16-14 loss. Go Owls
When do the seedings come out?
1. Tufts
2. Wheaton
3. WNEC
4. St Joes
5. Worcester
6. UMASS Boston
7. Westfield
8. Castleton
my prediction.
I am not sure how three LEC teams make it this year with the other upsets in conference tournaments. Often one of the NE pool C teams gets shipped to NY, but this year Cortland will most likely get that Pool C bid. It seems to me that KSC will be the odd man out. I think ESCU gets in and most likely will play at home with one of the other NE teams shipped to NY, which seems to happen every year.
Quote from: fotoguy on May 16, 2010, 08:38:22 AM
When do the seedings come out?
1. Tufts
2. Wheaton
3. WNEC
4. St Joes
5. Worcester
6. UMASS Boston
7. Westfield
8. Castleton
my prediction.
You'll have the seedings tomorrow morning.
Hey team here is my predictions
1. Tufts
2. Wheaton
3. WNEC
4. Umass Boston
5. St Joes
6. Eastern
7. Worcester
8. Westfield
Castleton gets shipped, team just left out Keene State
I think if Eastern gets in they will be either 4 or 5. They will not match up Eastern with any of the top three teams in the first round. UMass Boston will be the 7 or 8 seed and St. Joes looks like a solid 6 seed at this point.
Quote from: KSCfan on May 16, 2010, 07:58:47 PM
Hey team here is my predictions
1. Tufts
2. Wheaton
3. WNEC
4. Umass Boston
5. St Joes
6. Eastern
7. Worcester
8. Westfield
Castleton gets shipped, team just left out Keene State
my predictions,
1.) Tufts
2.) Wheaton
3.) WNEC
4.) St. Joes
5.) Eastern
6.) Worcester
7.) UM Boston
8.) Castleton
Westfield Shipped.
1. Tufts
2. Wheaton
3. WNEC
4. Eastern CT
5. St. Joes
6. Worcester St.
7. UMass Boston
8. Westfield St.
Castleton St. shipped to New York
Hobbesy
ECSU didnt even make it to the LEC title game are they really worthy of a 4 seed?? ???
Jcon-
I know they didnt and no its not me being biased, its just that they will be either 4 or 5 I think. They had a strong season and I dont think they will pair them with Tufts, Wheaton or WNEC in the first round. Yes UMB won the LEC but that does not qualify them for a high seed. I think they will be a 6 7 or 8. I just dont see any other team deserving of a 4 seed.
projected 55 done by d3baseball.com
1. tufts
2. wheaton
3. WNEC
4. ECSU
5. Worcester
6. Boston
7. St. Joes
8. Castleton
Keene shipped to Mid-Atlantic Regional
Hobbesy,
Hope this projection comes to fruition.
If Keene does make it and gets shipped to the mid-atlantic region, that wouldn't be too far of a trip for them? I guess it must be within the allotted miles or else they wouldn't have projected that! Does anyone think that is a real possibility though? I know that they had a strong finish to the season (minus the LEC tournament) and their SOS was very strong, but I just don't think it will be enough. I mean it would be great to see another NE team in the post-season representing itself in the mid-atlantic region, just to show everyone what quality teams we have! I guess we shall see what happens early this morning.
Here are my seedings--
1. Tufts
2. Wheaton
3. WNEC
4. St. Joe's
5. Eastern
6. Worcester St.
7. UMB
8. Castleton St.
No Westfield St. or Keene St.
Keene going on to NY regional.
I was looking at this regional and it is tough. I mean tough. I have no idea who is going to win this thing. Wheaton gets a white hot Beacons who won the LEC. Even Tufts gets St Joes first round, not an easy 8 v 1 game. Very excited about this tournament. Just disapointed i wont be able to go see the owls as they are in NY and not in Masfield. Hobbesy how far is Cortland from Mansfield? Does Keene have a shot at giving two NE teams in Appleton???
Its about a 6 hour drive from Mansfield. From my house in Utica about 2 hours. Keene will have a great chance in this regional because I feel it is weaker than New England. Cortland will be the best team there.
The New England Regional is stacked and will be great fun!!!
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Some initial thoughts but team capsules coming as the day goes along
Hosted by Eastern Connecticut State University, Mansfield, Connecticut
1. Tufts (31-5)
2. Wheaton (Massachusetts) 32-8)
3. Western New England (33-10)
4. Eastern Connecticut State (30-13)
5. Worcester State (31-19-1)
6. Westfield State (30-9)
7. Massachusetts-Boston (28-15)
8. St. Joseph's (Maine) (32-11)
Tufts over Eastern for a trip to Appleton!
St. Joe's and Umass Boston team capsules...Westfield St. next
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Counting down from 8 to 1
Quote from: LEC Fan on May 17, 2010, 08:19:56 AM
Hosted by Eastern Connecticut State University, Mansfield, Connecticut
1. Tufts (31-5)
2. Wheaton (Massachusetts) 32-8)
3. Western New England (33-10)
4. Eastern Connecticut State (30-13)
5. Worcester State (31-19-1)
6. Westfield State (30-9)
7. Massachusetts-Boston (28-15)
8. St. Joseph's (Maine) (32-11)
Tufts over Eastern for a trip to Appleton!
What a great lineup of college baseball teams!! Eastern will have to get past WNEC and Wheaton (which they didn't quite do during the regular season) to get to Tufts. Good luck to all.
Well, if Tufts and Eastern both win on day one they meet on day 2!
Quote from: Hobbesy on May 17, 2010, 10:03:47 AM
Well, if Tufts and Eastern both win on day one they meet on day 2!
My bad. I was thinking about the Saturday game.
oh no problem...but that will be one hell of a second day game! This regional is filled with upsets ( ???) waiting to happen.
RSS- you think one of the tougher ones in the country?
Worcester just added...Eastern CT on the way
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East Ct at #4 is a travesty to the area and a slap in the face to the other conferences. How does UMB, WHO WON THEIR CONFERENCE TOURNEY, get seeded LOWER that East Ct?
Dont tell me about history or resumes, its what happened on the field that counts.
This is a sham of a selection and only becuase they are hosting the tourney they get into the tourney, let alone the 4 seed.
What a joke. I hope they go 0-2 and get bounced. St Joes an 8 seed? Is anyone paying attention???
Wow. ??? ??? ??? ???
Not a travesty.
St. Joes plays in a bad conference but did play some good non-conference teams
UMass Boston won the LEC but had an up and down season and have 15 losses
Its the only logical place for them to go. Did you really want them as a 6, 7 or 8??? That means they would beat Western New England, Wheaton or Tufts in the first round. Is that fair to those teams. Lets be honest, Eastern one the top four teams in New England.
Umass Boston is not. Just because they won the LEC doesnt mean that puts them at a whole new level. And just because St. Joe's is 32-11 doesnt mean they are a four seed.
Sorry to break the news to you.
Quote from: Hobbesy on May 17, 2010, 10:33:09 AM
oh no problem...but that will be one hell of a second day game! This regional is filled with upsets ( ???) waiting to happen.
RSS- you think one of the tougher ones in the country?
Worcester just added...Eastern CT on the way
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7 of the 8 teams in the regional are 30-game winners, and the 8th just rolled through the tournament of, historically, one of the best conferences in the country. I'd say this regional is loaded, and more than any other regional is wide open. You can use comparative results and make an argument for any of the 8 teams to win it. In this regional and in the West, there are no easy games. Should be an exciting weekend.
Hobbesy--
I know this is the regionals and Eastern is hosting the tournament, but I do recall a few of you Eastern posters not wanting any part of teams like WNEC or Wheaton. I mean WNEC has had very good success against Eastern lately (winning the last three years ;D). However, Eastern usually plays well in the regionals and will have extra motivation with them hosting and some people not agreeing with them as the #4 seed. I think a ECSU-Wheaton or ECSU-WNEC matchup is a real possibility in the finals.
GBears,
O absolutely!
I meant no disrespect and didnt mean to predict a victory if game was played but it would suck for WNEC, Wheaton and Tufts to play a team like Eastern in the first round.
An ECSU vs. Wheaton or WNEC final is a great possibility.
GBear,
Always have had the highest respect for WNEC and Wheaton, both programs of the highest quality!!!
Although I am a ECSU homey, it would be great to see WNEC or Wheaton go to Grand Chute, (spread the love around ;D)
PS Warrior bats will need to explode this week, otherwise could be a short Regional for them!!!!!
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Quote from: Hobbesy on May 17, 2010, 12:50:48 PM
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Hobbesy,
Great job with the capsules as ususal!!!
Yeah Hobbesy, good stuff with the capsules! I know that you meant no disrespect to WNEC or Wheaton, that was just me being a GBears fan! I respect you and your fellow Eastern posters because at least you guys have class. I can't wait for the regionals to start. No work for me Wednesday or Thursday, so it looks like I'll be up in Mansfield catching as much action as possible!
Just posted a video tour of the Eastern Baseball Stadium.
For those of you have not been here before or those of you who cannot make it out this week!
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Quote from: Hobbesy on May 17, 2010, 06:45:44 PM
Just posted a video tour of the Eastern Baseball Stadium.
For those of you have not been here before or those of you who cannot make it out this week!
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Tristan,
You are unbelievable ;D ;D ;D !!!!!
Maybe Coach H can use this video as preview for recruiting purposes. Outstanding job 8-)
Hobbesy,
Just want to add my "great job on the capsules." insightful, well thought out as we've come to expect.
New England Posters
I have to ask is Hobbesy a better baseball player or a Journalist?
Tough call here, most people would love to be outstanding in one area, you Mr. Hobbs are outstanding in 2.
Great reports and insight.
Word
First group of player/coach interviews posted on the blog.
Travis Bass, Matt Fontaine and head coach Bill Holowaty of Eastern Connecticut.
Just added Tufts interviews. Sam Sager, Chris DeGoti and head coach John Casey share their thoughts.
St. Joseph's is on the field now and I will be posting those interviews when they are done. Slight rain falling at the field now and it looks like the rest of the teams will be practicing up in the gym.
Stay tuned!
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Is the rain supposed to clear out early tomorrow? I've heard different forecasts.
Hobbesy,
Tremendous job on the interviews so far. It is great to get to see/hear the coaches from around New England talk about the regional tournament. Being a Keene State fan I am glad they were able to get in but wish they stayed in NE. ECSU puts on a great tournament and the coverage you provide is top notch, really going to miss that in NY!
Looking forward to the continued coverage and great baseball, should be a hell of a tournament.
Any ideas?
Hobbesy,
Excellent job on the blog. I've been silently keeping tabs on the NE Region and you've definitely been a huge contributing asset.
I also wanted to wish my WNEC Golden Bears good luck in the 2010 Tournament. This is the last class of seniors I had the privilege of playing with during my time at WNEC. Good luck dudes!
Good luck to all the young men about to take the field all across the nation, especially to the NE representatives. Give your best, enjoy your time(it passes way too soon! Trust me, it does) and make your schools, parents, fans and friends proud. You've all come a long way with more good competition to come.
Looking forward to some good baseball. Good luck to all!
Just added three more teams to the interview list. Worcester St and UMass Boston decided not to practice today so I will try and grab them tomorrow. Wheaton is just entering the gym now to begin their workout and I will post their interviews after they are done.
Rain is suppose to taper off tomorrow. Could push the start of the tournament back a bit but they should be ok.
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Hobbesy--
How do I get to the regional page from the little east website? I know there was a link posted on one of these boards, but I can't seem to find it. And also, does it have any information about the status of tomorrow's opening games?
Here it is:
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Dont know yet but it is looking better. They may have to push the start time of the first game back an hour or so if it doesnt clear out totally.
Some Picks
Tufts University vs. St. Joseph's College DeGoti trumps Murray in a Pitcher's duel
Wheaton College vs. University of Massachusetts Boston -Wheaton shakes off early rust and rallys to down gritty Beacon squad
Western New England College vs. Westfield State College Last meeting was a 19-5 rout by Westfield; WNEC takes an early lead and never looks back in this one
Eastern Connecticut State University vs. Worcester State College EConn holds serve and more with over matched Worcester Team.
Word
Day 1 picks
ECSU over WSU
Tufts over St. Joes
WNEC over Westfield
UMB over Wheaton
Kscfan takes....
Tufts over St Joes- Tufts is 1 for a reason no matter what they say
Umass Boston over Wheaton (upset of the day) Pitcher of the LEC takes UMB over wheaton in low scoring close game
Westfeild over WNEC- Westfield bounces back
Eastern over Worcester
Keene over Skidmore
I am not sue any other regional is going to have the coverage that the NE Regional is going to have. I have had the pleasure of going to three previous regionals - 2007 in Harwich on Cape Cod, 2008 the Auburn regional, and last year in Mansfield. For those of you who can make it on Wednesday and Thursday, there is so much action, excitement, and the NCAA does a great job. However, if you can't make it - the Little East Conference puts on quite a show and with Hobbesy as a "sideline reporter" no other regional can compare.
Hobbesey.... great coverage - but I wouldn't expect anything else from you. Must have been tough interviewing Coach H. knowing him better than anyone.
Day 1 Picks:
ECSU over WSU
St. Joes over Tuffs (got to have one upset)
WNEC over Westfield
Wheaton over UMB
Full Day 1 Coverage of the New England Regional Tournament
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tournament website http://littleeast.com/sports/2010/4/28/2010neregional.aspx?id=10463 (http://littleeast.com/sports/2010/4/28/2010neregional.aspx?id=10463)
live blog if you cant watch or listen and want more than live stats http://www.coveritlive.com/index.php?option=com_altcaster&task=siteviewaltcast&altcast_code=33791ee129&height=550&width=350 (http://www.coveritlive.com/index.php?option=com_altcaster&task=siteviewaltcast&altcast_code=33791ee129&height=550&width=350)
goodluck to all NE teams today, even the ones in NY!
Tufts over St. Joes
ECSU over Worcester
WNEC over Westfield
Wheaton over UMB
Keene over Skidmore!
After 7 1/2 Worcester State 3 Eastern Connecticut 10
The V-8 is pulling away from the 4 banger.
EConn 10 Worcester St 3 top of the 7th.
Keene State is in a real pitchers duel leading Skidmore 1-0 in the Top of the 8th.
Keene out duels Skidmore to advance in the NY Regional 1-0
YeeHaw dang near spit out my teeth.
Watching the gamecast when Mendall walked and advanced to 2nd on a wild pitch in the bottom of the ninth :P :P
KSC's Nelson, Lacourse, Q-Man and Vogt pitched a whale of a game, as did the Brucato kid from Skidmore.
Word
Knew it was going to be a battle for Keene as Skidmore had one of the best pitching staffs in the country. Have to give Nelson and Keene's staff credit for stepping up for a big game 1 victory. Hopefully they can heat up the bats a little bit and carry the pitching into the rest of the tournament.
The live stats give me anxiety with the automic refresh and time in between hitters >:( :( :o ??? ???...I wish they had the NE coverage in NY!
Go Owls!
Anyone at Eastern today: Do they have any concessions open today? Coming straight from work, so need to know if I need to pick up food on the way. Also, do they charge for admission?
So what was that St. Joe's just ran into a 9-4-5-2 out to end a scoring threat.
We have a triple play by Castleton ST. in the NY Regional and this in the NE Regional wild and crazy days boys & girls. :P
Quote from: TWoods on May 19, 2010, 01:27:38 PM
Anyone at Eastern today: Do they have any concessions open today? Coming straight from work, so need to know if I need to pick up food on the way. Also, do they charge for admission?
It's an NCAA event so I am sure the NCAA is charging admission. I can't speak to food, though.
concessions are open and prices are actually pretty reasonable. Hamburgers, hot dogs, chili, pizza, drinks, candy, snacks. pretty good setup.
Does anyone else find it funny that every team in the New England Regional is blue?
Tufts- Blue and Brown
Wheaton- Blue and White
WNEC- Blue and Gold
Eastern- Blue and Maroon
Worcester St.- Blue and Gold
Westfield St.- Blue and White
UMASS-Boston- Blue and White
St. Joseph's- Blue and White
And the two that got shipped out are not.
Keene St.- Red
Castleton St- Green and White
Quote from: wildthngvaughn on May 19, 2010, 07:24:57 PM
Does anyone else find it funny that every team in the New England Regional is blue?
Tufts- Blue and Brown
Wheaton- Blue and White
WNEC- Blue and Gold
Eastern- Blue and Maroon
Worcester St.- Blue and Gold
Westfield St.- Blue and White
UMASS-Boston- Blue and White
St. Joseph's- Blue and White
And the two that got shipped out are not.
Keene St.- Red
Castleton St- Green and White
It must have something to do with
Political Correctness Pureté chromatique. :D
Quote from: wildthngvaughn on May 19, 2010, 07:24:57 PM
Does anyone else find it funny that every team in the New England Regional is blue?
Tufts- Blue and Brown
Wheaton- Blue and White
WNEC- Blue and Gold
Eastern- Blue and Maroon
Worcester St.- Blue and Gold
Westfield St.- Blue and White
UMASS-Boston- Blue and White
St. Joseph's- Blue and White
And the two that got shipped out are not.
Keene St.- Red
Castleton St- Green and White
+1 karma for that LOL
It was quite amusing that everytime a team came in, there was more blue. I said that the NCAA should have done the souvenirs in blue instead of gray :P
Great coverage of the NE regional. Top shelf Hobbesey on the impromptu updates throughout the morning yesterday while I was in meetings. We are lucky to have a conference who wants to showcase D3 baseball - Keep it up.
Day 2 picks
St. Joes over Worcester State
Wheaton over Westfield State
Tufts over ECSU
UMB over WNEC
Day 2 New England
St. Joe's downs Worcester St. Higgins Museum is open year 'round in Worcester
Wheaton over Westfield St. - Lyons Roar
EConn over Tufts - Big game, home field, take the the Warriors
WNEC over UMB - Gotta go with my WNEC boys
Word
Going to be a great Day 2!
Make sure to follow the live blog as well as the live video and audio!
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My picks
1. St Joes over Worcester
2. Wheaton over Westfield
3. Tufts over Eastern
4. UMB over WNEC
Hobbesy i thought you did fine in the booth. Maybe a slip up here and there eh no big deal, as you new yorkers say forget a-bout ittttttttt
John, Tristan, LEC, Bridgewater TV, ECSU, et al
Supurb job with all aspects of coverage so far!!!
Like the instant replay as well. Just great!!!!! ;D ;D ;D
This coverage is the class of the 2010 D3 Regionals. I think only other regional with video is West after a quick look yesterday. Rest with just live stats, at least so far.
After 7 Worcester State 2 St. Joseph's (Maine) 3
The NY Boards are really boring. Nice folks but they are still debating some unsportsman-like-ship thingee that happened a week or so ago.
Anyway, I 'watched" a game (gamecast only available, some audio on certain games) yesterday between Farmingdale & Oneonta the line ended with -->
Score by Innings R H E
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Farmingdale St. Coll 310 040 001 - 9 5 7
SUNY Oneonta........ 020 120 000 - 5 7 5
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How often do you see a team with 7 errors win a game? Brutual eh?
Word
Quote from: ECSUalum on May 20, 2010, 11:29:28 AM
John, Tristan, LEC, Bridgewater TV, ECSU, et al
Supurb job with all aspects of coverage so far!!!
Like the instant replay as well. Just great!!!!! ;D ;D ;D
This coverage is the class of the 2010 D3 Regionals. I think only other regional with video is West after a quick look yesterday. Rest with just live stats, at least so far.
dittos to that!! as I said last night, it's better coverage than Fox provides for MLB
Keene up 4-3 on Cortland right now in the top of the 5th
Anyone have an eastern tufts final yet?
Tufts 3 EConn 0 Final
Bleak day for the LEC KSC goes into the 5th up 4-3, comes out down 9-4. Balked home a run then with bases loaded the SS boots a grounder allowing a run; next batter doubles clearing the bases.
Word
ITS TIME FOR THE MAIN EVENT 8-)
Quote from: wordsmith on May 20, 2010, 08:20:01 PM
Tufts 3 EConn 0 Final
Bleak day for the LEC KSC goes into the 5th up 4-3, comes out down 9-4. Balked home a run then with bases loaded the SS boots a grounder allowing a run; next batter doubles clearing the bases.
Word
How many bases did Cortland steal? Bad day for the owls. When they collapsed on the field, The offense put their heads in the sand.
Added video interviews from each of the winners...
More to come tomorrow
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Beacons!!!!
Quote from: kscer on May 20, 2010, 08:51:54 PM
Quote from: wordsmith on May 20, 2010, 08:20:01 PM
Tufts 3 EConn 0 Final
Bleak day for the LEC KSC goes into the 5th up 4-3, comes out down 9-4. Balked home a run then with bases loaded the SS boots a grounder allowing a run; next batter doubles clearing the bases.
Word
How many bases did Cortland steal? Bad day for the owls. When they collapsed on the field, The offense put their heads in the sand.
Turtle-Up :P Baby
Day 3 in the New England Regional dawns with some interesting match-ups. My Picks:
Wheaton over EConn
WNEC over St. Joe's
Tufts over UMB
Word
Day 3 picks.
Wheaton over ECSU
St.Joe's over WNEC
UMB over Tufts
Wheaton over St.Joe's
The Lyons score 2 in the top of the 6th, EConn answers with 4, only to have Wheaton put the lucky 7 up in the 7th. Here we go!!
Down goes ECSU...UMB the only LEC team left standing 8-)
ECSU bats went stone cold for the post season!!!! Next year rebuilding with 8 seniors graduating.
Good Luck to UMB for rest of tourney, looks like real Cinderella story so far.
I told you, the Beacons are no "Cinderella." The clock struck 12 and, while some teams disappeared, we're still here. If the Beacons are still taking you by surprise then maybe it's time to wake up. They are for real and I have been trying to convey to many of you, for a while now, that this team is special. Watch the introductions to the LEC Championship Game and you'll see what I'm talking about. Another "test" for the Beacons today in Operation Dumbo Drop!! Can't wait!!!!
Quote from: BobbyBeacon on May 21, 2010, 02:03:08 PM
I told you, the Beacons are no "Cinderella." The clock struck 12 and, while some teams disappeared, we're still here. If the Beacons are still taking you by surprise then maybe it's time to wake up. They are for real and I have been trying to convey to many of you, for a while now, that this team is special. Watch the introductions to the LEC Championship Game and you'll see what I'm talking about. Another "test" for the Beacons today in Operation Dumbo Drop!! Can't wait!!!!
Beacon, I have believed in UMB for a while now but I haven't been able to say anything because you are making an arse out of yourself on these boards... Enjoy the run, I always enjoy new seeing blood and root for the underdog...I do wish UMB good luck, but please win with class( not like you on these boards)...
After 8 1/2 St. Joseph's (Maine) 3 Western New England 2
Why so sensitive Hockeyfan?? ??? What did I say now to upset another one of the "big three?" :'( Some of you need to lighten up a little bit. Take a lesson from the Beacons and relax and have fun. Isn't that what baseball's all about?
If any more of you want to squeal and cry about how the Beacons and/or their fans are "classless" just save it. You don't know anything about this program or the kids in it or those who have been through it. Save the life lessons because I'm sick of hearing them. The season this team is having is bringing joy to Beaconville colonies all over the country (except for Gorham, ME apparently). Your season may be over, but we're still making noise. If you can't handle it then stay away. This is BeaconMania. Welcome to Beaconville!!!
Wow...what an ego the third base umpire must have in the WNEC-St. Joe's game. Atleast according to the annoucers, the umpire said to the WNEC coach do you want to go. The WNEC coach responded with no, I'll coach my team you do your job. The coach then got tossed. Were there any F-Bombs or anything like that. NCAA tournament game and a coach gets tossed for that. That's a joke.
Quote from: BobbyBeacon on May 21, 2010, 03:32:03 PM
Why so sensitive Hockeyfan?? ??? What did I say now to upset another one of the "big three?" :'( Some of you need to lighten up a little bit. Take a lesson from the Beacons and relax and have fun. Isn't that what baseball's all about?
If any more of you want to squeal and cry about how the Beacons and/or their fans are "classless" just save it. You don't know anything about this program or the kids in it or those who have been through it. Save the life lessons because I'm sick of hearing them. The season this team is having is bringing joy to Beaconville colonies all over the country (except for Gorham, ME apparently). Your season may be over, but we're still making noise. If you can't handle it then stay away. This is BeaconMania. Welcome to Beaconville!!!
I am not sensitive, I actually have a deep respect for the way UMB has played this year...I don't have respect for the way you have handled success of your team though...I do wish UMB well against Tufts tonight...
ITS GO TIME IN BEACONSVILLE 8-). Handing the ball to the senior leader. GO GET IT
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Final Tufts 2 UMB 3
UMB has magic...I am impressed...
UMB running house on all of new england. First they dominate the LEC and now its looking like the 7 seed, yes the 7 seed might go on to the ship. Im really impressed with what they have done. I was talking to one of the Keene coaches the other day and he said dont be surprised if UMB makes the regional final and now here they are in the cat bird seat one win away. Still got the big one left but i am most impressed. Still not on the bandwagon but certainly impressed with the way they have played. Good luck tommorow UMB this is the KSCfan tipping his hat to your very impressive run.
UMB baseball team has caught lightning in a bottle as they say. I love the way they play a lot of fire and passion, something I did not see a lot of from some of the other normal front runners this season.
UMB acts like they have been there before.
в отличие от их сторонников здесь на этих правлениях ;) ;)
Heißen Sie willkommen zu beaconville meinem Arsch
слово ;D
Never say die! This team still may not have the talent as some of these "regional favorites," but I told you they got more heart than anyone in New England....maybe even the country! Unbelievable game by both teams! CONGRATULATIONS BEACONS!!! NOT DONE YET!!!!!!!!!!!
Final Wheaton (Mass.) 7 St. Joseph's (Maine) 9
Added Andriano interview with Bobby Beacon!!!
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A great day for St Joes as the represent the GNAC and all the naysayers about how weak the conference is.
No matter what happens now, how about a little respect!!!
Great job guys. Keep it going!
fotoguy...St. Joe's is a great program! Have been for years. That doesn't change that the rest of the GNAC (Suffolk being the exception) is VERY weak.
Who thunk it? St. Joe's, Tufts, and UMB with the Beacons sitting pretty!
This regional is up for grabs! Obviously UMB has the upper hand at this point, but I think anything can happen. I don't think anyone gave St. Joe's enough credit coming into the tournament. Being a former golden bear and member of the GNAC, I like seeing St. Joe's doing well and playing for a chance to get to the regional final! Today's matchup with Tufts will be a low scoring game in my opinion and whoever wins will give UMB a tough game.
Sorry I have been unable to join in the on the discussion but I cant believe the tournament is already over! It has been a great three days so far and St. Joes or Tufts is trying to push this thing to a winner take all on Sunday.
Quote from: Hobbesy on May 21, 2010, 09:54:52 PM
Added Andriano interview with Bobby Beacon!!!
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Hobbesy,
GREAT INTERVIEW WITH ANDRIANO AND BOBBY BEACON.
Andriano epitomizes the Beaconville spirit!!!!
UMB, Go and kick arse today and punch that ticket to Grand Chute!!!!
Championship Saturday...possibly if the Beacons can get it done.
Follow along with the Live Blog (its an awesome way to interact) and follow the live video and audio
Links are on my blog along with video interviews from all three days of play!
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st Joes has the hardest working man in d3 Will Sanborn the James Brown of Maine go monks
Congrats to UMB...Now take the whole damn thing and make New England proud...
Umb wins the regional and nobody has anything to say..... COME ON.... Unreal game by UMB today everybody did there part to get to this point. Couldnt have happened to a better group a guys and now they are 4 wins away from a NATIONAL TITLE. WELCOME TO BEACONVILLE 8-)
On another not I dont know if my eyes were decieving me or what happened maybe one of you ECSU fans can confirm this form me but did I see coach Hollawaty wearing a tufts hat at the game today????
I cant believe that the beacons are going to the ship. Gutsy performance by them and i wish them the best of the luck out in appleton. First LEC other team than USM and Eastern to go to the world series, and good for them for doing it. Team is rolling and i hope they do well in the world series!
Quote from: hockeyfan77 on May 22, 2010, 08:18:45 PM
Congrats to UMB...Now take the whole damn thing and make New England proud...
UMB really has a great draw. They have Dalton going against Linfield 1st round. That is very winnable.
2nd round they probably get a Cortland St. team that is overrated in my opinion.
How do you have Cortland St. being overrated if you have them making the second round of the winners bracket. And Linfield isn't an easy draw, they won the by far best region.
Quote from: wildthngvaughn on May 23, 2010, 02:27:33 AM
How do you have Cortland St. being overrated if you have them making the second round of the winners bracket. And Linfield isn't an easy draw, they won the by far best region.
I have Cortland state overrated and in the 2nd round bc they are prolly playing #6 seed Illinois Wesleyan.
Linfield also lost their first game. Which makes me think their pitching staff is deep, but they don't have dominant #1. As a result, Linfield may have the advantage in rounds 2/3, but can also be an underdog in round 1.
Quote from: wildthngvaughn on May 23, 2010, 02:27:33 AM
How do you have Cortland St. being overrated if you have them making the second round of the winners bracket. And Linfield isn't an easy draw, they won the by far best region.
New England Region was far and away the best region.
Quote from: Jcon8958 on May 23, 2010, 03:06:25 AM
Quote from: wildthngvaughn on May 23, 2010, 02:27:33 AM
How do you have Cortland St. being overrated if you have them making the second round of the winners bracket. And Linfield isn't an easy draw, they won the by far best region.
New England Region was far and away the best region.
I think the midwest and the Mideast also have arguments. Those were the top 4. Pick the order........who knows.
Quote from: d3baseballnut on May 23, 2010, 02:37:27 AM
Quote from: wildthngvaughn on May 23, 2010, 02:27:33 AM
How do you have Cortland St. being overrated if you have them making the second round of the winners bracket. And Linfield isn't an easy draw, they won the by far best region.
I have Cortland state overrated and in the 2nd round bc they are prolly playing #6 seed Illinois Wesleyan.
Linfield also lost their first game. Which makes me think their pitching staff is deep, but they don't have dominant #1. As a result, Linfield may have the advantage in rounds 2/3, but can also be an underdog in round 1.
Pretty sure these are the matchups.
UW-Stevens Point vs. Cortland
Linfield vs. UMass-Boston
Heidelberg vs. Johns Hopkins/Kean winner
Shenandoah vs. Illinois Wesleyan/Buena Vista winner
Linfield lost its second game. Ryan Larson is a pretty darn good No. 1 for Linfield. Also, the Wildcats gave up four total runs in their four wins over MS College x2, Pomona and Chapman.
Quote from: d3baseballnut on May 23, 2010, 02:37:27 AM
Quote from: wildthngvaughn on May 23, 2010, 02:27:33 AM
How do you have Cortland St. being overrated if you have them making the second round of the winners bracket. And Linfield isn't an easy draw, they won the by far best region.
I have Cortland state overrated and in the 2nd round bc they are prolly playing #6 seed Illinois Wesleyan.
Linfield also lost their first game. Which makes me think their pitching staff is deep, but they don't have dominant #1. As a result, Linfield may have the advantage in rounds 2/3, but can also be an underdog in round 1.
Linfield lost in Game #2 to Pomona-Pitzer.
I agree that the West Regional was very balanced.
The first team eliminated was Trinity TX who lost to Chapman 4-3 and to Regional Finalist Mississippi College 5-4 in 11 innings.
:D :D ;) ;D
Another Linfield advantage over UMass-Boston? They are coached by former New York Yankee Scott Brosius! ;)
The animals got bigger; first the "Lyons," then the Bears, and finally the Elephants...twice. The only thing Hobbesy and the rest of "the Ocho" forgot to mention was that the Beacons are big game hunters!!
For the first time in school history the UMass Boston Beacons Baseball team had more fans/support than the opposing team!! With the "kids in sweat pants" leading the charge from the dugout there was no stopping the Beacon Bandwagon.
Yesterday was surreal. To see the Beacons dogpile, again, in the middle of Holowaty's House (with Holowaty sitting on the Tufts side sporting Jumbos Blue :o!!!) is a scene that never gets old. After trailing for half the game, the Beacons erupted in the 5th inning and never looked back! Following their recipe for success, it wasn't just one kid carrying the team, but a complete team effort. Hitter to hitter, pitcher to pitcher, man to man, the Beacons stuck together and refused to lose. Even when they were down, just looking at the kid's faces and their body language you could tell Sunday was out of the question.
It's all about family in Beaconville and this was apparent by the numerous parents, friends, family members, and alumni showed up to support the Beacons. This statement was most evident when, after Fontaine crushed one over the left-field wall, you could see two of the most faithful members of Beaconville jumping fences in order to get to the ball. Despite warnings from the Gilblair Hill fan section, an ECSU representative swiftly came down demanding the ball be given back. Even with the support of the Gilblair's, the ball was taken away. After a series of negotiations and trade talks, the ball was eventually returned in exchange for a lifetime membership to Beaconville. This was all done because the Mayor of Beaconville wanted to be able to present Fontaine with the "biggest hit in UMB history."
Again, this is no fluke and this is no Cinderella story. You can rank the Beacons wherever you want and match them up against whoever you want and it does not matter. They steamrolled the LEC, steamrolled the New England region, and are ready to show the country the size of their heart.
Get your cheeseheads ready fellas, the Beacon Bandwagon is heading up to Beaconville, Wisconsin!!! It's time do a little fishing, stir the soup, and colonize Wisconsin. I know it's Wisconsin, but there is no way there is enough cowbell (or Badger milk) up there to suppress Beacon Fever!!! It's been a great run so far; the LEC title, the Regional title, but we're NOT DONE YET!!! Time to show the country that THIS IS BEACONVILLE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IHMFzeyhLrg
Congrats to UMB
Got some great videos I will be adding shortly
Four videos posted...three more on the way....http://ned3baseball.wordpress.com/ (http://ned3baseball.wordpress.com/)
Quote from: Jcon8958 on May 23, 2010, 01:00:48 AM
Umb wins the regional and nobody has anything to say.....
I'm sure most people thought you would say enough for the rest of them. :)
Added the final out video to the blog!
http://ned3baseball.wordpress.com/ (http://ned3baseball.wordpress.com/)
Also a bunch of other videos on there including Brendan Eygabroat, Tim Fontaine and the LEC Three (Cabral, Holleran, Harper)
Congrats and good luck to UMB!
Nice job by ECSU(well run tourney),Grounds crew(especially the first looooong day) John and Tristan and the whole LEC/BTV9 broadcast crew(very professionally done)
Very enjoyable and overall smooth week.
Go Beacons! represent New England well!
Quote from: Jcon8958 on May 23, 2010, 03:06:25 AM
Quote from: wildthngvaughn on May 23, 2010, 02:27:33 AM
How do you have Cortland St. being overrated if you have them making the second round of the winners bracket. And Linfield isn't an easy draw, they won the by far best region.
New England Region was far and away the best region.
New England wasn't the best region, it was probably the most balanced as numerous teams could have won it, but there weren't any dominant teams with dominant pitchers. There wasn't an "04" Eastern or "08" Trinity in the mix. I have to give UMB credit, they took advantage. Both WNEC (up 4-0) and and Tufts (up 2-1 in the 9th) had UMB on the ropes but UMD persevered. The difference in those games was that both WNEC (4 errors) and Tufts (1 error in the ninth) didn't make the plays and UMB took advantage as good teams do.
No dominant teams with no dominant pitchers? I beg to differ.
Dominant (adj): 1 a : commanding, controlling, or prevailing over all others <the dominant culture> <the dominant Beacon Baseball team> b : very important, powerful, or successful <a dominant industry> <a dominant Beacon Baseball team>
Totals.............. .316 4-4 136 33 43 7 0 2 28 56 .412 24 4 18 1 .420 5 6 11-12 108 38 6 .961
Opponents...........
.145 4-4 124 15 18 4 0 1 13 25 .202 17 7 25 2 .282 1 2 1-1 101 48 11 .931
And the Beacon Bandwagon rolled through Mansfield.....twice.
And for the pitching staff's line:
ERA W-L APP GS CG SHO/CBO SV IP H R ER BB SO 2B 3B HR AB B/Avg WP HBP BK SFA SHA
Totals................ 3.25 4-0 4 4 1 0/0 1 36.0 18 15 13 17 25 4 0 1 124 .145 2 7 0 1 2
Opponents........7.22 0-4 4 4 0 0/0 0 33.2 43 33 27 24 18 7 0 2 136 .316 3 4 0 5 6
Say what you want about making or not making plays, unearned runs don't skyrocket ERA's :o .
Just stirring the soup... ;)
To say this about that...
The Beacons played the most consistent baseball in a tournament filled with inconsistent baseball
This is a team that you cannot let hang around and thats exactly what Tufts, Tufts and WNEC did.
They all got early leads against the Beacons but then put the bats away and had terrible at-bats.
Give credit to the Beacon pitchers who were able to keep their team in the game with scoreless middle innings.
Twice Tufts scored early and then went to sleep. This is a team that will eventually get to the opposing team and that is exactly what happened in this tournament.
UMD did exactly what they needed to do to win, but they were far from dominant. WNEC coughed up the second round game with 4 errors and blew a 4-0 lead. Tufts coughed up the 3rd round game with 2 errors in the ninth when up 2-1. Dominant teams are like the "04" Eastern team that had two All-American pitchers and two or three All-American hitters. Like the "08" Trinity team that when all is said and done will have about 7 or 8 players playing in the minor or indy leagues. That Eastern team lost in the NCAA finals against Scott Hyde...I mean George Fox. And that Trinity team won the whole thing.
However, I do believe that UMB can do some damage at the Nationals especially if Dalton is on his game. UMB seems to be peeking at the best possible time.
I would agree with vaughn on this one as UMB isn't an overly dominant team but they are one hell of a team. They can pitch, hit and for the last 2 weeks have absolutlely torn through NE baseball. They are hot at the right time and have made the most of any/all opportunities.
Best of luck to the Beacons this weekend as they represent NE and the LEC!
BobbyBeacon,
Your enthusiasm is very justified. UMB has had a great 2 weeks but the chip on your shoulder is so big that you can't seem to grasp what people are saying. You totally misunderstood the comment about no dominant team when discussing the strength of the NE regional. The meaning was that, no team had been dominant all year coming into the regional such as Trinity in 08 when they were undefeated coming into and leaving the regional on their way to the national championship. UMB was dominant in the LEC tournament and the regional and deserves congratulations for their efforts, but with 15 lossess during the year, could not be considered a dominant team coming into the regional. All of the NE posters hope they succeed in Wisconsin and bring the champioship back to NE.
Wow, after looking over all the teams in the World Series, There doesn't seem to be any complete shutdown dominant pitchers. There are a lot of aces with records around 10-1 with a 2.50 era and 80 k's in 80 innings, but there are no Jordan Zimmerman's, Matt DeSalvo's, Ryan Dipeitro's, etc... The guys who almost guarantee 2 victories with a sub 2.00 ERA 100+ K's etc... I think that this World Series is going to be wide open, and if UMB can get by Linfield in the first round they will be in a great position.
Yeah there's a chip, not only on mine, but the Beacons' shoulders as well. And there absolutely should be.
The Beacons just steamrolled both post-season tournaments with a few teams giving us a quick scare, but it turned out to be more of a wake up call. They've heard, read, and played through all the BS thrown their way about how they weren't good enough or too fat or too short or too slow or too......old? ??? :o >:(
That was beyond me. Just because it got deleted does not mean that I, or others, did not see it. The post by Fastball-Changeup, or whatever your name is, was the most degenerate thing I have ever seen. The comments and statements made about the Beacons and their fans being "classless" is comical. The trash is really starting to pile up and show itself. We've never been there before, so I guess that's what happens when you get beat at your own game??? How does it feel.....clown??
You "stirred the soup" and look what happened - 8 in a row including an LEC and a Regional Championship. Keep it coming boys because we see right through it. The only thing that matters right now are the guys in that dugout and what they need to do to get their next win.
The Beacons have a chip on their shoulder a mile wide right now and with every right. This isn't the "feel good story of the year" and they're no "Cinderella" because the Beacons KNOW they're not done yet. The Beacons are just as good, if not better, than every team in this World Series and they know it. How many kids actually play in the World Series annually? Experience means nothing. These kids know they are 4 wins away from a National Championship and nothing has/will stop them. Keep hatin' on the Beacons, we'll see you on the Beacon Bandwagon at the end of the year....I guess that's what happens when you're on top.
I posted this link on the National discussion page but feel that it makes sense to post it here as well. Great article and as a former Beacon, this article is long overdue. Amazingly enough it appeared on Page 1 of the Boston Globe today:
http://www.boston.com/sports/colleges/baseball/articles/2010/05/26/against_the_odds_umass_boston_baseball_team_becomes_a_hit/?page=1 (http://www.boston.com/sports/colleges/baseball/articles/2010/05/26/against_the_odds_umass_boston_baseball_team_becomes_a_hit/?page=1)
"Long overdue" is an understatement! It's amazing that the Globe is located across the street from campus and finally caught wind of Beacon Fever after four months, two post-season tourney sweeps and, the day they leave for the World Series, finally publish an article! It is beyond me how UMass Boston does not have a field for its baseball team with all the resources, amenities, and attractions from the city of Boston and the UMass community. The athletic facilities provided for every athletic team at UMB are incredible (largest gym in the state, a hockey rink and softball field all that annually host HS state tournaments as well as NCAA tournaments) including the Olympic sized pool for....wait, there is no swim team! ??? :o Gotta love Beaconville!
Us Internet bloggers got a shout out!!!! I guess people other than ourselves read these boards! Good luck beacons and enjoy the moment...it goes to quick
So am I to understand that the more we insult the Drive-bys the better they play? ;)
OK let's start insulting them so they win 4 straight in Appleville.
Gosh this will be so much fun :D
Beacons have touched down in appleton... Several cases of beacon fever already reported... UHHHH OHHHHHH 8-)
Quote from: Jcon8958 on May 26, 2010, 05:27:55 PM
Beacons have touched down in appleton... Several cases of beacon fever already reported... UHHHH OHHHHHH 8-)
Don't talk too much or too soon." -
COACH BEAR BRYANT
Quote from: BobbyBeacon on May 25, 2010, 11:46:23 AM
That was beyond me. Just because it got deleted does not mean that I, or others, did not see it. The post by Fastball-Changeup, or whatever your name is, was the most degenerate thing I have ever seen.
That's funny, because the word that was used by JCon in response was about the most degenerate thing I have seen on this board.
Ok pat and what he said was alright is what you are trying to tell me? Calling kids out please dude get off your high horse man come on what he said was WRONG.
I guess I just don't get it. It's ok for someone to enter a topic of conversation that he was/is not a part of and make a statement like that?? Really????? That is disgusting and to call Jcon out for defending, not only his team, but his friends is ridiculous. We both get "warnings" or "bad karma" or whatever it is you call it for endlessly supporting our team and friends and you allow that kinda crap on your site? Please re-post both of their statements and let everyone see them and let the fellow bloggers judge for themselves.
That was absolutely WRONG and should not be tolerated. That's like supporting Don Imus' remarks about Rutgers' woman's basketball team or Rush Limbaugh's sports-related remarks and criticizing people for reacting/responding to such outlandish comments. Please, dude, get off your high horse.
What is a high horse any way?
Is it a horse that smokes dope? 'Cause 'horse' in my lingo was like smack; you know like "I went to the desert on a horse with no name...."
So a horse would already be high 'cause it was smack, so a high horse would be redundant, which is what I find many of the recent postings about the UMB baseball team.
Anyway, I think asking about or questioning kids' ages or background or where they have been 3 or 4 years prior to today is below the standard of the Board. I also think some of the language used recently was over the top. :-X
That is not my America, which by the way did the song I went to the desert on a horse....oh never mind!!! :P
So there. Now Word is on a high horse. Yes I am, and it is dangum scary.
http://www.tiricosuave.com/images/highhorse.jpg
Word
Quote from: BobbyBeacon on May 27, 2010, 12:01:56 PM
I guess I just don't get it. It's ok for someone to enter a topic of conversation that he was/is not a part of and make a statement like that?? Really????? That is disgusting and to call Jcon out for defending, not only his team, but his friends is ridiculous. We both get "warnings" or "bad karma" or whatever it is you call it for endlessly supporting our team and friends and you allow that kinda crap on your site? Please re-post both of their statements and let everyone see them and let the fellow bloggers judge for themselves.
That was absolutely WRONG and should not be tolerated. That's like supporting Don Imus' remarks about Rutgers' woman's basketball team or Rush Limbaugh's sports-related remarks and criticizing people for reacting/responding to such outlandish comments. Please, dude, get off your high horse.
No, they're BOTH wrong. That's why I deleted them BOTH. Try a little reality check, here.
Message board for the 2011 New England Regional that will be hosted by the ECAC at Whitehouse Field in Harwich.
Corrections appreciated.
For some reason I thought it was going back to Harwich. Tell me I'm wrong.
Whitehouse Field is in Harwich.
I was under the impression that it was back at cape cod at whitehouse field in Harwich......
If the season were to end today whos in the regional?? Here is what I am thinking
1. Eastern (at large)
2. Keene State ( Winner of the LEC)
3. Wheaton ( Winner of the NEWMAC)
4. Amherst (already locked in as NESCAC)
5. WNEC ( Winner of the the CCC)
6. Tufts (At large)
7. Westfield State ( MASCAC Winner)
8. ST Joes (GNAC Winner)
9. Husson (NAC Winner)
10. Mitchell (NECC Winner)
I see 2 teams getting shipped out to NY. I am going to go with Mitchell (close to NY) and the other one might be Keene (went last year)
Whitehouse Field @ the campus of Eastern Connecticut State University lol
shouldn't it be the BILL HOLLOWATY STADIUM ON THE CAMPUS OF EASTERN CONNECTICUT STATE UNIVERSITY?
anyway...you have interesting picks KSCFAN. But I guess if the season were to end today they are understandable...I still think Keene has a lot of work to do in the next 2 weeks to make a push for an at large if they don't win the LEC. Of course their showing in the LEC tournament can also impact that push as well.
Quote from: KSCfan on April 25, 2011, 07:23:48 AM
I was under the impression that it was back at cape cod at whitehouse field in Harwich......
If the season were to end today whos in the regional?? Here is what I am thinking
1. Eastern (at large)
2. Keene State ( Winner of the LEC)
3. Wheaton ( Winner of the NEWMAC)
4. Amherst (already locked in as NESCAC)
5. WNEC ( Winner of the the CCC)
6. Tufts (At large)
7. Westfield State ( MASCAC Winner)
8. ST Joes (GNAC Winner)
9. Husson (NAC Winner)
10. Mitchell (NECC Winner)
I see 2 teams getting shipped out to NY. I am going to go with Mitchell (close to NY) and the other one might be Keene (went last year)
Amherst hasn't qualified yet. They qualifield for the NESCAC tournament, not the NCAA tournament.
Sorry my bad guys- I misread the d3baseball article today. That changes things a little bit
KSC-
Season over today? Here is what I think
1. Eastern (LEC Winner)
2. Tufts (NESCAC Winner)
3. Wheaton (NEWMAC Winner)
4. WNEC (TCCC Winner)
5. Babson (At-Large)
6. Westfield St. (MASCAC Winner)
7. St. Joe's (GNAC Winner)
8. Mitchell (NECC Winner)
Husson (NAC/NEAC Winner) will be shipped out to New York
Keene, Amherst, MIT all have the possibility of earning an at-large bid
Hobbesy you would take Babson over Keene even when Keene beat them earlier in the year, and they have two wins over WNEC? I know that I am homer but i feel that if Keene can make it to the final day of the LEC than they have to have a great shot at least getting the at large.
If Mitchell or anyother team from the NECC gets shipped out to the New York region and a team like Oneonta or B-Port gets bumped for them I am gonna have a cow!!! Not one team out of the NECC deserves an auto bid and they sure wouldnt hold a candle to the two teams I just mentioned.I watched the NECC for the past two years and it is a joke of a conference.And if commisioner Del Malloy wants to argue that fact with me PLEASE just email me.
Quote from: Hobbesy on April 25, 2011, 12:06:01 PM
KSC-
Season over today? Here is what I think
1. Eastern (LEC Winner)
2. Tufts (NESCAC Winner)
3. Wheaton (NEWMAC Winner)
4. WNEC (TCCC Winner)
5. Babson (At-Large)
6. Westfield St. (MASCAC Winner)
7. St. Joe's (GNAC Winner)
8. Mitchell (NECC Winner)
Husson (NAC/NEAC Winner) will be shipped out to New York
Keene, Amherst, MIT all have the possibility of earning an at-large bid
I think you gotta have two at large out of NE with the quality left on the sidelines. Keene has beaten Babson, WNEC Westfield state, split with Husson, and will probably split with Wheaton and Eastern. Hard to keep themout
Quote from: Tarheel0550 on April 25, 2011, 02:25:42 PM
If Mitchell or anyother team from the NECC gets shipped out to the New York region and a team like Oneonta or B-Port gets bumped for them I am gonna have a cow!!! Not one team out of the NECC deserves an auto bid and they sure wouldnt hold a candle to the two teams I just mentioned.I watched the NECC for the past two years and it is a joke of a conference.And if commisioner Del Malloy wants to argue that fact with me PLEASE just email me.
An automatic bid team has not impact on the selection of the Pool C at large teams. :)
Onenota and Bridgeport will have to fend for themselves inside the regional rankings.
KSC-
You make a great argument for Keene.
Babson has three losses to MIT and two to Wheaton so far. Also lost to ECSU and Keene. Besides NEWMAC tourney, no more games against quality teams. They need to make the title game to have a chance I think. Its too bad because they have some great pitchers that can win them a tournament.
Keene's resume is looking good right now and they have been picked as an at-large in the past thanks to their schedule. Wins against WNEC, Babson, Westfield and Amherst are huge wins! They take six of their last seven (win out in non conference, sweep USM and split with Eastern) and then win two games in the LEC tournament they should be a lock.
Thanks for challenging my judgement. Keene and others who are hoping for at-large bids are rooting hard for no upsets especially in the CCC. WNEC needs to win that title or a lot of teams could be screwed over.
Hobbesy-
Good point about Brandies, Curry, and Colby-Sawyer. Keene should be able to beat all three of them, and need to beat them. Conference DH against USM and Eastern are going to go a long way about the at large. If Keene can win one of the games against Eastern that will also really help. I would also think a couple of wins in the LEC tourny would help a lot as well.
But, hey like i said before, i am not worried as Eastern will get the at large bid, and Keene will get the AQ!!
What i am saying ralph is that not one team from the necc is worth a crap,and if they were in a tough conference like the SUNYAC or LEC they wouldnt have a prayer of making regionals.There is already talk of disbanding the necc for this very reason,that they are less than a sub-par conference.As far as fending for themselves i think if Oneonta can take atleast one from St.J Fisher I think they have done enough to get an atlarge bid.They do have some good wins over quality opponents.
Quote from: Hobbesy on April 25, 2011, 06:27:25 PM
KSC-
Thanks for challenging my judgement. Keene and others who are hoping for at-large bids are rooting hard for no upsets especially in the CCC. WNEC needs to win that title or a lot of teams could be screwed over.
That CCC tourney could be a real messer up if WNEC does not win. I hate to say it but I'm rooting for Colby Sawyer tomorrow against Keene. KSC will have to win the LEC tourney or sweep ESCU and USM and then pray and do a ghost dance.
KSC,
Why would you root for Colby Sawyer if you are a Keene St. fan??? How does Colby Sawyer beating Keene St. help Keene St?
Quote from: wildthngvaughn on April 26, 2011, 09:07:44 PM
KSC,
Why would you root for Colby Sawyer if you are a Keene St. fan??? How does Colby Sawyer beating Keene St. help Keene St?
Sometimes blood is thicker.
Quote from: wildthngvaughn on April 26, 2011, 09:07:44 PM
KSC,
Why would you root for Colby Sawyer if you are a Keene St. fan??? How does Colby Sawyer beating Keene St. help Keene St?
Much the same as when WNEC played KSC...my son was a coach at WNEC. As is KSCers son is a coach at C-S. Bly the way.
Word
nice bly guy referance word.........
suppoused to rain on cs/keene today hopefully they get game in
looking ahead what are some games with regional impact that we can keep an eye out for
keene/eastern would be one that im watching two top 8 new england teams going at it, but enough of my lec bias what other games?
Keep an eye out for Endicott. They are having a good year and are somewhat flying under the radar. They play Westfield State and UMass Boston this week and would be 2 big wins.
Wheaton vs Eastern tommrow would be a good game as well
Both Wheaton and Eastern Conn. were beaten this week by WNEC. Their game this week could be a good one. WNEC has some quality late season wins and appears ready for The CCC Tournament next week with a 29-8 record thru the ECONN victory yesterday. May is shaping up to be a great tournament season.
WNEC putting together a great last week of regular season play it looks like one more on Friday to take care of business for. Hobbsey mentioned teams need to make sure they take the AQ from the CCC does he think WNEC is in a spot to get an at large and steal a bid if they do this? Two loses to Keene could be tough if it comes down to them but @ wheaton @ Eastern back to back doesnt get much tougher.
If it came down to Keene and WNEC, i would have to give the nod to Keene. Two wins over WNEC is going to be big for the NCAA selection crew. If Keene can knock off one game with Eastern as well, that would def swing it in favor of keene. WNEC has a very good record and is a very good team but a couple of things are hurting them.
1. Keene has beat them twice
2. WNEC plays in the CCC and Keene plays in the LEC. Past history has shown that the NCAA rewards LEC teams for playing in a tough league, and has given credit to teams such as Keene and Eastern for playing tough tough schedules.
3. Keene was ranked higher in the latest NEIBA poll which often times is a good indicator of what the NCAA will pick
DO i think this will matter in the end? Prob not as WNEC will most likely win the CCC. I hope they get in, a good program, a good coach, but i cant see them getting the nod over Keene if it came down to one spot for the both of them
Isnt it a shame that some leagues are so weak that they get an AQ when they really shouldnt. Doesnt seem right to leave out a WNEC or a Keene, or a Tufts or someone that is going to make the regional stronger , while .500 mitchell gets in. I know thats the rules and thats the way it is but still.......
First regionals are out from NCAA. There are ten teams ranked in the region. This seems like a lot to me, I do not see pre-season ranked USM or UMB on the list, but I do see Keene State. Go Owls. If you are not on this list your chances of a regional berth are somewhat narrowewd.
KScer where does one view this ncaa regional ranking? Where was keene? I am assuming that Eastern was 1 and maybe Wheaton 2, Keene 3 or 4 with WNEC???? Maybe a Tufts sighting as well?
Quote from: KSCfan on April 29, 2011, 07:10:39 AM
KScer where does one view this ncaa regional ranking? Where was keene? I am assuming that Eastern was 1 and maybe Wheaton 2, Keene 3 or 4 with WNEC???? Maybe a Tufts sighting as well?
Link is on the D3 Home Page
New England Region
1 Eastern Connecticut 19-4 25-4
2 Tufts 13-1 19-5
3 Wheaton (Mass.) 23-7 25-7
4 Keene State 21-7 23-9
5 Amherst 18-5 18-6
6 Western New England 26-6 27-8
7 Bowdoin 15-6 19-7
8 MIT 17-10 19-10
9 Babson 25-11 25-11
10 Brandeis 17-10 20-13
accodring to this ranking its going to look good for an LEC at large bid and a Nescac at large bid. With 8 AQ's now in New England, and New York usually a regional that doesnt fill up, you very well could see two new england teams sent to Cortland, and or even NJ if they send a Mitchell (southern CT) or an Eastern out
only 14 in region games for tufts? At some point they gotta catch up or could that hurt them?
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Wheaton is in won newmac tourny
St Joe's punches their ticket to Harwich beating Suffolk 8-6
My random first guess of Regional field:
NEWMAC: Wheaton (in)
GNAC: St. Joe's (in)
LEC ECSU
TCCC WNEC
NESCAC Tufts
MASCAC Westfield State
NAC/NEAC Husson
NECC Becker
at large: KSC, Amherst (2 shipped out) KSC and Becker?
If Husson should lose NEAC championship to Penn State-Berks:
NEWMAC Wheaton
GNAC St. Joe's
LEC ECSU
TCCC WNEC
NESCAC Tufts
MASCAC Westfield State
NECC Becker
at Large: KSC, Amherst (KSC or Becker or Westfield shipped out?)
I would think 2 at large is pretty good bet, who gets shipped out is a bigger guess.
Stump i am going to agree with you on your picks. I think that Keene or Eastern will win the LEC and the other one will get the at large bid. They are currently #1 and # 3 in New England so that is a good bet. If Keene takes at least 1 from Eastern from thier dh this weekend that should be enough to seal the at large for them, also being ranked 3 in new england doesnt hurt. Eastern as the number 1 team in New England is prob going to be in no matter what.
As far as getting shipped out it usually becomes a geography question. It would not make dollars and cents to send Tufts who is from Boston to Cortland NY or to NJ. So they will stay in New England, same with Westfield State (Southern Mass) and WNEC (Springfield Mass) and Wheaton (Mass). One of the LEC teams will stay, the other has a good shot at going out. Eastern has gone to NY many times before, and Keene went last year. As far as the other team i dont know, but the LEC at large is getting shipped, as far as the other team i dont know that one. It will depend on who makes it, and where they are located in New England in relation to Cortland and wherever the NJ regional is.
I'll take a stab at it:
NEWMAC: Wheaton (in)
GNAC: St. Joe's (in)
LEC Keene State
TCCC WNEC
NESCAC Tufts
MASCAC Westfield State
NAC/NEAC Husson
NECC Daniel Webster
at large: EConn, Amherst
By geography Westfield, WNEC, Becker, Amherst, ECSU would be most likely to be shipped out of my original picks. I think by past discussions the only one fairly safe from shipping(or least likely to be shipped out) would be Hussonwhich is ironic because they are in a conference arrangement(NAC/NEAC) that is mostly NY/Penn. ((Bangor, Me is about 550 miles from Cortland.) (but of course Bangor is 320 miles from Harwich,))Just as a point of reference Bangor is about 150 miles north of Standish, ME(St. Joe's) the closest school geographically that has qualified for the regionals.
I know the LEC has often had a team shipped out so that would be one likely prospect(either ECSU or KSC) and probably the 2nd team from NESCAC(Amherst) would be the probable 2nd team to NY? I know that's not necessarily the way the NCAA approaches it but it would seem to make sense.
Just some thoughts to start some discussions.
So as we go into selection weekend.....
Wheaton is in -Newmac champ
WNEC is in CCC Champ
Bridgewater State is in MASCAC Champ
St Joes is in GNAC Champ
Husson is in NAC champ
Mitchell or Southern Vermont will be in on WED NECC
NESCAC this weekend
LEC this weekend
Should be interesting to see what happens.
WNEC pulling out of the losers bracket has to make a few LEC and NESCAC teams relax. Wasn't a lock that they would have gotten an at large but never know what could come up in those meetings and over 35 wins would have been a good argument. LEC tournament should be a good one. The top teams have all struggled at times this year but I think Eastern and Keene need to be the favorites. If they take care of business and get to the finals both sould be in. Of course UMB going to a place they just dont lose ball games.
Are Amherst and Tufts both in if one wins the NESCAC?
And for all the KEENE fans I am going to say it was nice to Coach Howes team start to get some recognition in this past poll.
If Amherst wins, I don't see why Tufts should get in. Looking at their schedule, it is extremely weak. Besides Eastern (W) and maybe Brandeis (L) they play nobody in the region. They also play a southern style schedule, where they play 3 weekend games and maybe 1 midweek game. Meanwhile teams like Keene St. are playing 6 or 7 games a week against some of the best teams in the region.
That being said, there is no gaurantee that Keene should be in. They have a couple really bad loses and just got swept by Eastern. If they don't do some damage in the LE tournament then they shouldn't get in either. With the addition of a NECC automatic bid and the possibilty of 3 NJAC teams getting in, is there a chance that 0 New England teams get an at-large bid? What is Brandeis' situation? Can they qualify for a pool B bid as an independent? If that happens, that really could mess with the New England Region.
Keene has to get to the Little East Finals. I don't think they can get in if not. But you must remember they have beaten WNEC twice, Brandeis, Amherst, and Husson (a tournament team). Totallyagree about Tufts. Play no body. I know the NESCAC limits number of contests but the southern trip they have should go against them and the committee needs to do that. It is about regional record not overall and yes they have a good regional record but thats easy when a tough week is a double header and one midweek game. Problem is the committee has failed to hold that against them in the first few polls. Number 3 comes out tomorrow should be interesting to see how the committee moves teams around with only a few games left.
Brandeis can earn an pool B bid but I dont think they will. They have a had a better season than seasons past but still not better than Chapman, St. John Fisher etc...
As far as the NESCAC-
I think Tufts will win the tournament and Amherst will receive an at-large bid.
For the LEC-
I think Keene and Eastern will play in the final...both receiving bids to the tournament
This is how I see it right now:
1. NESCAC winner
2. Wheaton
3. ECSU
4. WNEC
5. NESCAC Loser
6. St. Joe's
7. Keene St.
8. NECC winner
Husson goes to New York and Bridgewater St. goes to Mid-Atlantic region
I think Husson is locked into NE due to mileage.
Good Point
two scenarios
Amherst wins NESCAC
1. Amherst
2. Wheaton
3. Tufts
4. ECSU
5. St. Joe's
6. Keene St.
7. Husson
8. NECC Winner
Bridgewater to Mid-Atlantic and WNEC to New York
Tufts wins NESCAC
1. Tufts
2. Wheaton
3. ECSU
4. WNEC
5. Keene St.
6. St. Joe's
7. Husson
8. NECC Winner
Bridgewater St. to Mid-Atlantic and Amherst to New York
Also could be skewed by winner of NECC. If Southern Vermont wins they can be shipped to New York or if Mitchell wins they could be shipped to Mid-Atlantic
I agree KSC has to play for the final to make it, as does ESCU this year. There are too many good teams this year. That said, I think Keene and Mitchell/SO Vermont will travel west because the NCAA is cheap and they are the closest to the NY and Mid Atlantic (esp So VT)
Check back on Monday for webcast information about the NE regional.
Hmm. Guess that's not going to be much of a surprise, now, is it?
-s
Quote from: Hobbesy on May 10, 2011, 03:08:51 PM
Good Point
two scenarios
Amherst wins NESCAC
1. Amherst
2. Wheaton
3. Tufts
4. ECSU
5. St. Joe's
6. Keene St.
7. Husson
8. NECC Winner
Bridgewater to Mid-Atlantic and WNEC to New York
Tufts wins NESCAC
1. Tufts
2. Wheaton
3. ECSU
4. WNEC
5. Keene St.
6. St. Joe's
7. Husson
8. NECC Winner
Bridgewater St. to Mid-Atlantic and Amherst to New York
Also could be skewed by winner of NECC. If Southern Vermont wins they can be shipped to New York or if Mitchell wins they could be shipped to Mid-Atlantic
This weekend certainly didn't help NE chances for 2 at large bids. My guess would be the only way two at large go to NE is if Bowdoin wins NESCAC
That being said: here are my latest guesses:
1) Tufts (as long as they don't collapse and lose 2 to Bowdoin before the rain comes tomorrow)
2) Wheaton
3) ECSU
4) WNEC
5) St. Joe's
6) RIC
7) Husson
8) Bridgewater
Mitchell shipped out to NY or Mid-Atlantic(or Mitchell and Bridgewater swap places)or ECSU or WNEC are shipped to NY and everyone else moves up a spot
If Bowdoin wins NESCAC:
1) Wheaton
2) ECSU/WNEC(other goes to NY)
3) Tufts
4) St. Joe's
5) RIC
6) Husson
7) Bowdoin
8) Bridgewater
ECSU or WNEC to NY, Mitchell to Mid-Atlantic?
Remember the NCAA is looking for balance in the tournaments. With upsets and auto bids to weaker conferences weak regional fields may develope.They want the best teams possible in the regionals...so when teams with losing records win their conference and teams with thirty wins are left out that's not what the powers want. So they may make choices for pool b and c that surprise us.
stump you need to look at the regional rankings. tufts will be 1 and wheaton and wnec did not play so they should be 2 and 3. Amherst gets in and stays in NE they are 4 becasue they beat eastern who is no lock.
The regional rankings are there because thats what seedings come from.
Tufts wins the nescac. Game called in bottom of 1 with tufts ahead 5-0 and bases loaded.
Here are my seedings
1. Tufts- NESCAC (really week schedule but they are #1 in the polls)
2. WNEC- TCCC (38-9 with wins over Eastern and Wheaton)
3. Wheaton- NEWMAC (29-10 they beat who they had to beat)
4. St. Joseph's- GNAC (30-13 made a run last year, can they repeat it)
5. ECSU- (32-11 rep and Amherst losing 3 of last 4 got them in)
6. Husson- NEAC(29-15 with 2 pitchers that could do some damage)
7. Brigdewater St-MASCAC(23-15 no great wins but won when they had too
8. Mitchell- NECC(23-9-1 have a #1 to be competitive if not 2 and out)
9. RIC- LE (21-18 Great run to win are still only 3 games over .500)
New York- One of the nine will be sent but the committee has never been too predictable, so it could be anyone below the top 3 seeds.
Tufts
WNEC
Wheaton
MIT/Amherst
St Joes
RIC
Bridgewater
Mitchell
Eastern to NY
Tufts
WNEC
Wheaton
Eastern
St. Joes
Bridgewater
Husson
Mitchell
RIC to New York like in 2005
Gapper I like your picks but i'd substitute Bowdoin for Amherst. Bowdoin is an incredibly gutty team that played the #1 toughest schedule this year according to the SOS rankings, and that, coupled with Bowdoin's performance this weekend, deserves to be recognized. Amherst had home field advantage for the league playoffs this weekend and didn't get it done. What I like about your picks is that they recognize that the fact that the NESCAC and the NEWMAC were the 2 best conferences in New England this year and that merits at least one of them getting an at-large bid. Eastern played in a weaker than normal LEC this year and went 7-7 down the stretch, with no signature wins and losses to Amherst, Tufts and WNEC. That performance does not justify an at-large bid this year even though I would prefer that Eastern was hosting the regionals rather than Harwich since no one does it better than Eastern on all fronts.
I looked on the d3 baseball website this morning and they had the Little East getting in not 1 not 2 but 3 teams!!!!!! They had keene and Ric going to Harwich with Keene getting the 4 seed!!!. I was surprised and impressed and i hope its true. They had Eastern going to the Mid-Atlantic.
SHould be interesting to see what happens
Any idea when the teams will be announced?
its up on d3baseball....
Eastern and Mitchell shipped out
Keene not in
Looking at the seedings and matchups, who does everyone think is the early favorite to come out of this NE regional? What lower seed has the potential to make some noise and surprise people?
I like all of the higher seeds in the opening round games, with the exception of RIC over MIT.
Quote from: GBearsAlum15 on May 16, 2011, 10:23:27 AM
Looking at the seedings and matchups, who does everyone think is the early favorite to come out of this NE regional? What lower seed has the potential to make some noise and surprise people?
I like all of the higher seeds in the opening round games, with the exception of RIC over MIT.
I think there could be a lot of upsets. It's hard to know if some of these lower-seeded aces are for real but there are some really good numbers among them. Bridgewater State's ace looks on paper like a tough matchup for Tufts, but hard to say how good he really is against their schedule. Tufts and WNEC don't really have any overpowering arms, so IMO there could be some upsets. St. Joes has a couple of guys with very solid numbers as well, and we know MIT is a good pitching team.
I think Wheaton is the best offensive club and if they can stay around are more of a threat later in the tournament when most teams are on second-rate arms.
Not too many gripes this year about the selections but here are a few.
1. RIC getting a 5 seed. Yes they got hot and and ran the LE tournament, but they are still only 21-18.
2. SOS. The NESCAC (mostly Tufts) has found a way to really manipulate the system. They play 3 or at the most 4 games a week, while their New England region foes play 6 or 7. They also play almost all their games against medium level competition. They rarely play really bad teams but they also rarely play the top tier teams. Thus their SOS is high but in reality their schedule is very ordinary at best.
3. MIT. Not really a gripe here Amherst and Keene played themselves out of the tournament.
4. 7 teams in the Mideast. Make it 6 or 8. 7 is just stupid and gives too much of an advantage to the #1 seed. New England did it one year and it was awful.
5. Farmingdale St. 26-15 and gets a 2 seed in New York, huh???
Running out of time for fanfare today while I try to remember where all my rain gear is, but...
D3Cast (http://d3cast.com), with production help from our friends at Pack Network (http://packnetwork.com), will have complete coverage of the New England Regional, beginning at... well, um, beginning whenever the rain stops this week (but theoretically at 9:30 a.m. on Wednesday). It's been three years since we've done the regional -- the folks from Bridgewater cable access have done an outstanding job for the last two years, and the bar is still very, very high. But we're looking forward to the week, and the weekend, and maybe even Monday, who knows?
Steve Clay
D3Cast
They changed the format of the seven team format. It isn't a three game ride for the top seed any longer. If you are the top seed and go undefeated you must win four games just like a six team or eight team region.
Seven still adds unneeded complications and scheduling scenarios.
Anyone find it interesting that the NCAA doesnt seem to think to much of St Joes and thier schedule. The fighting monks were seeded 6th. They come in as a conference champion, they record is 30-13, and they where seeded behind at large MIT. I think it was on the general new england discussion early in march we talked about St Joes and thier program. Apparently the NCAA seems to think that St Joes plays a weak schedule, and or are not as good as advertised. They get Wheaton in thier first game which is no easy task. I would of thought that they would of ended up in the 4/5 game.
Quote from: KSCfan on May 17, 2011, 07:25:07 AM
Anyone find it interesting that the NCAA doesnt seem to think to much of St Joes and thier schedule. The fighting monks were seeded 6th. They come in as a conference champion, they record is 30-13, and they where seeded behind at large MIT. I think it was on the general new england discussion early in march we talked about St Joes and thier program. Apparently the NCAA seems to think that St Joes plays a weak schedule, and or are not as good as advertised. They get Wheaton in thier first game which is no easy task. I would of thought that they would of ended up in the 4/5 game.
Coach Will will have the boys stoked for the Wheaties....Beware this is a tough match-up for Wheaton. An upset would not surprise me.
My predictions for the first round of games
1. Tufts over Bridgewater in a close game. I think Tufts is a little overrated and Bridgewater a little underrated. Tufts squeks by in close one
2. WNEC over Husson- Golden Bears are tough team, showed that by winning 4 games in two days to get to the regionals to much for Husson
3. Wheaton over St Joes- Wheaton looks strong going into tournament, would not be surprised to see them get to championship sat
4. RIC over MIT- RIC was red hot in the LEC tournament and i see them keeping the train rolling
What happens if the New England, New York, and Mid-Atlantic Regionals only gets through the first round or second round? All are expecting rain throughout the week. Would they delay the World Series or just go with the, "well there are four 1-0 teams, but this one is the highest seed so they win".
Wildthng-
I guess they should have thought about scheduling the regional tournament so close to the World Series.....
Mother nature can never be controlled and you have to role with it. Holding conference tournaments the last weekend before regionals makes sense because I guarantee you that Tufts, RIC and Eastern Connecticut are much more prepared then Wheaton, WNEC, MIT and so on and so forth. It's hard to play in important, crucial games and then go back to regular games and then back to competitive ones. We saw this with WNEC last year.
As for the regionals, they will get them in. In 2008 it rained in New York and we were playing until 2 in the morning in an elimination game. They will get the games in if they need to get them in. Happened in 2007 in Harwich and I believe Keene and Wheaton played into the wee hours of the night.
But again they probably should have had the regionals back in April...
Last year the West Regional some games were played in the cold, wind and rain in Oregon.
Quote from: KSCfan on May 17, 2011, 07:25:07 AM
Anyone find it interesting that the NCAA doesnt seem to think to much of St Joes and thier schedule. The fighting monks were seeded 6th. They come in as a conference champion, they record is 30-13, and they where seeded behind at large MIT. I think it was on the general new england discussion early in march we talked about St Joes and thier program. Apparently the NCAA seems to think that St Joes plays a weak schedule, and or are not as good as advertised. They get Wheaton in thier first game which is no easy task. I would of thought that they would of ended up in the 4/5 game.
I was surprised to see that St. Joe's had the lowest SOS of all the NE regional qualifer schools(including Mitchell). I know the GNAC is pretty weak but not as weak as the NECC.
I pretty sure the Monks will be well prepared to challenge the Wheaties.
It certainly looks like a challenging week weatherwise.
Good Luck to all the participants. Your hard work and dedication is paying off. Appreciate the opportunity you have(
it passes so fast)trust me!! and know your families, friends and schools are proud of you. Play hard, have fun, enjoy your time and represent your schools well.
Tufts over Bridgewater State
Western New England over Husson
St. Joseph's over Wheaton
MIT over Rhode Island College
Tufts vs. Bridgewater St - Tufts
WNEC vs. Husson - WNEC
Wheaton vs. St. Joe's - St. Joe's in a close one
MIT vs. RIC - RIC in a close one
Tufts over Bridgewater State
Western New England over Husson
Wheaton over St. Joseph's
MIT over Rhode Island College
Final RIC 12 MIT 2
RIC up 8-2 in the 6th bases still loaded...Cinderella likes the rain! ;)
No Gary Levesque for RIC today?
Looks like the Tufts/Bridgewater game might be delayed. The rain just doesn't want to go away.
Good win for RIC today. They took every advantage against a decent MIT squad. We'll see if their offense can keep it going throughout the tournament.
Not going to look good if MIT gets bounced in two games. Not a lot of people felt they deserved to be in the thing, and now they get whacked by LEC winner RIC. RIC is a hot team, but they are a team that is what 24-20 overall? I know thats not exact on thier record, but close enough. I need to see more out of MIT to feel that they deserved over Amherst and Keene. I hope RIC makes a deep run in the regionals, love the cinderella run!
Hobbesy,
Its makes no sense to hold your conference tournament the weekend before the Regionals. The Liberty League's confernce tournament hasn't been completed in 3 of the last 5 years because of rain. The NESCAC tournament didn't complete their tournament this year because of rain.
And nice way to end your post "But again they probably should have had the regionals back in April." Have you always been such a sarcastic jerk.
After 1 1/2 Bridgewater St. 2 Tufts 0
First off I would like to give my congrads to Walsh on being named the Poty WELL DESERVED and hope to see him playing at the next level he is good enought to do so. Also to the rest of the beacons that were named to the ALL-LEC TEAMS.
Now in terms of this big debate on whether or not conference tourneys should be played the week before regionals. ITS A NO BRAINER that it is good for the teams that are playing all the way till 3 days before the regionals. Look at last year as a perfect example the Beacons RAN THROUGH both tourneys because they were hot and I know if I am a coach and my team is hot I dont want to wait around for 2 or 3 weeks before I get into regional play I want to keep playing. RIC over MIT is another example today. Fact is mother nature is something we havce to deal with here in new england. This is why the LEC always has teams that make deep runs in tourneys because they are playing high pressure games right up to the regionals. Sorry Vaughn but this is an easy argument. Play high pressure games right up to regional play.
I think I have mentioned this before so forgive an old man's memory. And I realize this will not happen but alas I digress.
Too bad college baseball couldn't become a fall sport. Weather-wise esp. in the Northeast would make a lot more sense. I realize there are issues, i.e. summer leagues, draft eligibility, how to get pitchers ready without 2 months of throwing in a gym off a wooden ramp ::).
The other point I'd like to make, I just don't buy the Conference Tourney thing at all. One team gets hot and wins maybe 3/4 games and bang they go to the NC2As while another team that has taken on all comers all season and won the regular season title gets dumped into the "somewhat" arbitrary at-large pool. Why even play the regular season? I guess I am too dang old school but to see a really good team in an average but decent conference slip up on 1 weekend that happens to fall on Conf Tourney weekend and then have nothing to show for it just seems unfair. :-\
And one more thing...who the hell is controlling the weather? this rain and mist crap has got to stop...I am NOT living in London for Godsake, my teeth are too good to be from there. My vitamin D is on life-support, my bi-polar has become bi-polar-unbearable and I have a super dose of the crankies. >:(
Still it doesn't matter because Rev. Whathisname is saying the world will end on May 21st anyway. Say, will they have to declare a champion if the NE Regional isn't finished by then? Is there a rule in the rule book about If the World Ends Before a Regional Champion Can Be Determined on the Field then WTF do we do clause?
Bi-Word
From the Handbook:
If inclement weather is involved, the last possible time a regional championship game will be permitted to start is 9 p.m. local time Monday, May 23. If the regional representative cannot be determined on the field of play by this time, one team will be selected by the committee.
...
Method of determining regional champion if play cannot be completed:
Six-team tournament:
a. Up until one team becomes 3-0, the highest-seeded team that has not been eliminated will advance to the finals in Appleton.
b. If teams have an equal number of losses, the higher-seeded team, as determined by the Baseball Committee before the start of regional play, will advance to the finals in Appleton.
Seven- and Eight-team tournament
a. Up until the completion of game four the highest seeded team will advance to the finals in Appleton.
b. Up until the completion of game 9, the highest-seeded undefeated team will advance to the finals in Appleton.
c. After game 9, the undefeated team will advance to Appleton. If both teams have the same number of losses the higher-seeded team will advance to Appleton.
After 6 Bridgewater St. 4 Tufts 0
Why is Tufts starting a reliever against a team with an Ace with a 1.33 ERA?
How about the coaches act like they have played in a regional before.........high seeds (#7/8) normally have an ace that can beat you on day #1.
All coaches should know this.
Jcon,
The Little East is smarter than the rest, as they schedule the tournament to have Sunday as a make up rain day. Imagine though if the Little East was like the Liberty or NESCAC. An incredible run like RIC this year or UMASS-Boston last year may have never happened because of the rain. Ofcourse you can't control the weather and this is all a bunch of ifs, but why even put yourself in the position where a tournament champion is declare without a championship game.
One big advantage of playing the tournament a week and half before the regional is that you can line up your pitching rotation. Its tough for a pitcher to throw in the first round of the confernce tournament and then come back on short rest to throw in the conference final only to then try to throw on short rest in either the 1st or 2nd round of the regional.
One thing though that can completely negate everything that I just said, is when do these schools have finals. If the conference tournament is schedule around finals, then you do what you have to do, and the scheduling of the tournament is secondary to the scheduling of finals.
d3baseballnut
I don't think that they did. The box score has Miller starting and he was relieved by Sbilly in the 4th. Miller had starter 8 games this year and was 3-1 with a 1.84 ERA in 44 innings
What a great job d3cast is doing on these games. This is just simply amazing, whether it be the multiple camera angles, the slow motion instant reply, the stats for each player, unbelievable job!!!
Quote from: wordsmith on May 18, 2011, 02:17:34 PM
The other point I'd like to make, I just don't buy the Conference Tourney thing at all. One team gets hot and wins maybe 3/4 games and bang they go to the NC2As while another team that has taken on all comers all season and won the regular season title gets dumped into the "somewhat" arbitrary at-large pool. Why even play the regular season? I guess I am too dang old school but to see a really good team in an average but decent conference slip up on 1 weekend that happens to fall on Conf Tourney weekend and then have nothing to show for it just seems unfair. :-\
I have to agree with you on this. If Regional bids weren't at stake it wouldn't matter as much.
Final Bridgewater St. 4 Tufts 0
Quote from: wildthngvaughn on May 18, 2011, 03:02:53 PM
d3baseballnut
I don't think that they did. The box score has Miller starting and he was relieved by Sbilly in the 4th. Miller had starter 8 games this year and was 3-1 with a 1.84 ERA in 44 innings
my bad. Well then was Miller hurt? Its hard for me to beleive that you yank him after 2 runs
Mitchell puts up a good fight losing to Cortland St. 3-1.
Quote from: wordsmith on May 18, 2011, 02:17:34 PM
I think I have mentioned this before so forgive an old man's memory. And I realize this will not happen but alas I digress.
Too bad college baseball couldn't become a fall sport. Weather-wise esp. in the Northeast would make a lot more sense. I realize there are issues, i.e. summer leagues, draft eligibility, how to get pitchers ready without 2 months of throwing in a gym off a wooden ramp ::).
The other point I'd like to make, I just don't buy the Conference Tourney thing at all. One team gets hot and wins maybe 3/4 games and bang they go to the NC2As while another team that has taken on all comers all season and won the regular season title gets dumped into the "somewhat" arbitrary at-large pool. Why even play the regular season? I guess I am too dang old school but to see a really good team in an average but decent conference slip up on 1 weekend that happens to fall on Conf Tourney weekend and then have nothing to show for it just seems unfair. :-\
And one more thing...who the hell is controlling the weather? this rain and mist crap has got to stop...I am NOT living in London for Godsake, my teeth are too good to be from there. My vitamin D is on life-support, my bi-polar has become bi-polar-unbearable and I have a super dose of the crankies. >:(
Still it doesn't matter because Rev. Whathisname is saying the world will end on May 21st anyway. Say, will they have to declare a champion if the NE Regional isn't finished by then? Is there a rule in the rule book about If the World Ends Before a Regional Champion Can Be Determined on the Field then WTF do we do clause?
Bi-Word
Word,
I've always said that baseball in NE should be a fall sport, the only problem is when it comes to time for tourneys is when the weather starts going to sh-t. My son played fall ball for many years and it was quite enjoyable until after Columbus Day. Maybe play the league schedules through Columbus Day and move all the tourneys South, instead of playing preseason down south and then coming North to fight sh-tty spring weather to get your schedule in.
I always appreciate your insight on the issues like the world ending, we can always count on Word to add perspective to pressing issues. ;D
Thanks again, you are always entertaining. Keeps me from wanting to hunt down a meteorologist and doing unspeakable things to him. :P
Stump,
Thanks for the kind words...your sycophant attitude has enabled me to exist on this board for 4 years.
You are right about fall weather...back in the day when D-III Teams were allowed to play weekend games in the fall (remember that rule 1 game only so the teams would play for like 14 or so innings?). The weather really does go downhill fast after Native American Day.
I am off to wAtch the movie 2012. I really can identify with Woody Harrelson's character.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=47-EY2D6GgM&feature=related
Word
Quote from: wordsmith on May 17, 2011, 08:15:47 AM
Coach Will will have the boys stoked for the Wheaties....Beware this is a tough match-up for Wheaton. An upset would not surprise me.
Never underestimate Coach Will Sanborn (The Hardest Workin' Man in Show Business) and the Fightin' Monks!
St. Joe's 4 Wheaties 2 Final
Word
Quote from: wordsmith on May 18, 2011, 07:54:35 PM
Stump,
Thanks for the kind words...your sycophant attitude has enabled me to exist on this board for 4 years.
You are right about fall weather...back in the day when D-III Teams were allowed to play weekend games in the fall (remember that rule 1 game only so the teams would play for like 14 or so innings?). The weather really does go downhill fast after Native American Day.
I am off to wAtch the movie 2012. I really can identify with Woody Harrelson's character.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=47-EY2D6GgM&feature=related
Word
Thanks for the correction! I did not mean to offend anyone with the reference to Columbus Day :P Sorry for my political incorrectness ;)
D3Nut, your comment is right on. However, the starter Miller only pitched 1 inning for Tufts--the game box score is wrong. Sbily pitched 6 2/3 for Tufts, giving up 2 runs on a home run. A strong performance for a freshman in a difficult situation.
In talking with a Tufts parent after the game he said it looked like Miller had a re-occurence of some shoulder problems that he suffered a few weeks ago. If Miller is injured it means Tufts has now lost two weekend starters in the past 2 weeks. The Tufts parents told me that Tufts lost Kevin Gilchrist, their #1 pitcher, 2 weeks ago in the Bowdoin series, where he broke his hand, and they also lost Matt Collins, their starting catcher and one of its best hitters, in that same series with a broken arm. Tufts was able to win its league despite these losses but it's very hard to succeed in the regional tournament without 2 weekend starters and your starting catcher.
Got to love playoff baseball
Bridgewater upsets tufts
St Joes upsets Wheaton
RIC technically upsets MIT...
I know its the regionals and there is no such thing as upsets, but that awesome some lower seeds won
Final Husson 0 WNEC 2
Quote from: Stump on May 18, 2011, 08:22:51 PM
Quote from: wordsmith on May 18, 2011, 07:54:35 PM
Stump,
Thanks for the kind words...your sycophant attitude has enabled me to exist on this board for 4 years.
You are right about fall weather...back in the day when D-III Teams were allowed to play weekend games in the fall (remember that rule 1 game only so the teams would play for like 14 or so innings?). The weather really does go downhill fast after Native American Day.
I am off to wAtch the movie 2012. I really can identify with Woody Harrelson's character.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=47-EY2D6GgM&feature=related
Word
Thanks for the correction! I did not mean to offend anyone with the reference to Columbus Day :P Sorry for my political incorrectness ;)
No problem Kemosabe 8-)
WNEC wins 2-0 as Matt Rogers ties the WNEC all-time record for wins in a career with 30 and I believe he sets the record for most wins in a season with a 11-1 record. He also must be close, if not already have it, to the most innings pitched in a season with 89.2
3 out of 4 for predictions for yesterday's games, not too shabby.
Today's predictions:
Tufts over MIT
Wheaton over Husson
RIC over Bridgewater St.
WNEC over St. Joe's
I was way off i had 3 out of 4 wrong hahahaha
Today i take Tufts over MIT who should of never been there, bad job NCAA amherst and keene would of been more competitive teams
Wheaton knocks off Husson
RIC over bridgewater RIC is hot
St Joe's over WNEC- just to be different to gbears hahaha
MIT nips Tufts
Wheaties over Husson
Bridgewater over RIC
WNEC over St. Joe's
kudos to the guys doing the webcast. i'm not getting any work done here at work but thats ok. great job.
Tufts over MIT
Wheaton over Husson
RIC over Bridgewater St.
St. Joes over WNEC
Final MIT 2 Tufts 3
Quote from: fotoguy on May 19, 2011, 08:24:46 AM
kudos to the guys doing the webcast. i'm not getting any work done here at work but thats ok. great job.
One of the announcers is a bit annoying to listen to, other guy is OK, Cabral, Hobbes were better. Camera work is very good with instant replay. Do they even have a enclosed press box at Whitehouse Field?
Two things
1. Is that sunshine on the Cape im seeing on the live stream? What does that look like
2. Tufts unis are awesome with the tall brown and blue striped stirups
Quote from: ECSUalum on May 19, 2011, 11:09:41 AMDo they even have a enclosed press box at Whitehouse Field?
They do not. They are out in the elements, on top of that wooden porch you can see behind home plate, which is elevated and connected to the press box, but not covered. It's not a bad vantage point, and a terrific place to work from when it's 65 and partly cloudy, with no wind. Um... :-\
Thanks to all -- and even to you ECSUalum, as I know you'd prefer that the regional was at the Eastern Baseball Stadium (or even that the Warriors were in the NE regional!) -- we appreciate all the kind words, both the ones posted here and the ones we've received privately. The first three days are a gigantic task to pull off, and we're working as hard as we can at the moment.
-steve
EDIT: Just wanted to be clear -- there *is* a nice, enclosed press box at Whitehouse Field, with enough room for scoreboard op, PA, official scorer, home/away SIDs, tournament hosting staff, and NCAA reps. And just to try and finesse this one even more -- often, it's actually nice to have that whole porch area to ourselves. But weather is definitely a factor.
D3Cast you guys are doing an awesome job. Loving the job that you guys are doing. Hats off to a great job
Husson hangs three on wheaton in bottom of 1
Keene fans get over it we get you're upset but it's done. You lost too many bad games. MIT won 9 games against ranked opponents. Far more than ksc. Make your conference championship and you have an argument.
Final Wheaton 8 Husson 4
Quote from: D3Cast on May 19, 2011, 12:59:23 PM
Quote from: ECSUalum on May 19, 2011, 11:09:41 AMDo they even have a enclosed press box at Whitehouse Field?
They do not. They are out in the elements, on top of that wooden porch you can see behind home plate, which is elevated and connected to the press box, but not covered. It's not a bad vantage point, and a terrific place to work from when it's 65 and partly cloudy, with no wind. Um... :-\
Thanks to all -- and even to you ECSUalum, as I know you'd prefer that the regional was at the Eastern Baseball Stadium (or even that the Warriors were in the NE regional!) -- we appreciate all the kind words, both the ones posted here and the ones we've received privately. The first three days are a gigantic task to pull off, and we're working as hard as we can at the moment.
-steve
EDIT: Just wanted to be clear -- there *is* a nice, enclosed press box at Whitehouse Field, with enough room for scoreboard op, PA, official scorer, home/away SIDs, tournament hosting staff, and NCAA reps. And just to try and finesse this one even more -- often, it's actually nice to have that whole porch area to ourselves. But weather is definitely a factor.
Steve,
Yes, a little dissapointed about venue, but D3Cast is doing a wonderful job producing the NE Regional. Camera work and graphics are great!!
I appreciate the comments on being "outdoors", announcing has to be a little tough out in the elements. Maybe the High school?? or Mariners?? can spend a little and give you a proper Press booth for the future!!
What's up with the Wheaties 3 runs in 14+ innings? Where did their offense go?
Wldthing-
I apologize. That was not how I should have shaped that post.
What I should have said is: from my experience on cape cod, working in cape cod league last summer, the weather is very fickle. One night the entire eastern part of the cape was covered in green but the rain never came. I dont know if that's weather.com's fault or just one of those rare occurrences.
It appears to be holding off nicely so far but many things can change. the mid-atlantic regional is already been hampered. Yesterday's late game was postponed, making it five games today with the last one starting at 10pm.
Not sure if there is a rule on how late you can play or even what the latest game has ever been.
Again, sorry about that, and lets hope for more clear weather through the weekend
NEIBA All-New England teams have been posted...
http://static.psbin.com/6/8/vfw2c2kbfpmyju/2011_NEIBA_DIII_All_New_England_Teams.pdf (http://static.psbin.com/6/8/vfw2c2kbfpmyju/2011_NEIBA_DIII_All_New_England_Teams.pdf)
Thank you St. Joe's website for having the link that is impossible to find anywhere else, even on the NEIBA website!
Wabash just eliminated #2 nationally ranked Christopher Newport from the South Regional. So, nobody will have to worry about CN @ the CWS
#11 Texas Tyler also 2 and out
as is #15 Adrian
Final Bridgewater St. 8 RIC 5
Quote from: Hobbesy on May 19, 2011, 03:07:21 PM
NEIBA All-New England teams have been posted...
http://static.psbin.com/6/8/vfw2c2kbfpmyju/2011_NEIBA_DIII_All_New_England_Teams.pdf (http://static.psbin.com/6/8/vfw2c2kbfpmyju/2011_NEIBA_DIII_All_New_England_Teams.pdf)
Thank you St. Joe's website for having the link that is impossible to find anywhere else, even on the NEIBA website!
St. Joe's has a consistently good website. Very current, constantly updated, better and easier to find info there than it is on GNAC site. Consistently one of the best NE college sports sites
http://www.gomonks.com/sports/bsb/index
Quote from: Hobbesy on May 19, 2011, 02:38:04 PM
from my experience on cape cod [...] the weather is very fickle.
Truth. Swear to God, the radar at noon yesterday made it seem for all the world like we were going to get pummeled. And then the thing parted, and slithered to either side of us, and we played on. Not to jinx anything, but Harwich has had unbelievable weather luck, based on what the forecast looked like Wednesday morning.
Of course, 45 degrees with a 15 mile-an-hour breeze, 100% humidity, and fog last night wasn't very fun...
-steve
Is it foggy there today?
Looks on the d3cast like it is but thought that might be some other problem because the home plate shot looks a lot worse than the field camera.
Bridgewater is on one of those great runs where they are benefitting from incredibly productive hitting. Yesterday against Tufts BSU got 4 runs on just 6 hits, 2 of which were weak seeing eye infield grounders, and today they have 8runs on just 8hits. They go from first to third and second to home very well, and they've gotten timely home runs in each game.
More importantly, they've received some great starting pitching so far, letting up no runs yesterday and 2 thru 8 innings today, with a complete game outing from yesterday's starter and 8 innings from today's starter. That means they have lots of fresh arms available as they head into the weekend games, which may be their biggest advantage of all.
Why did Bridgewater leave its starter in for the 9th? I know they can't use the kid again in this tournament but what's the justification for allowing him to throw 147 pitches when they've got plenty of fresh arms in the bullpen? I hope he doesn't feel the effects of this kind of outing if they get to Appleton.
Final WNEC 4 St Joe's 1
Quote from: JustAFan on May 19, 2011, 07:22:08 PM
Why did Bridgewater leave its starter in for the 9th? I know they can't use the kid again in this tournament but what's the justification for allowing him to throw 147 pitches when they've got plenty of fresh arms in the bullpen? I hope he doesn't feel the effects of this kind of outing if they get to Appleton.
I was thinking the same thing. They had a comfortable 8-2 lead, seemed odd to leave him in for the ninth with a really high pitch count. I'm not too familiar with Bridgewater's bullpen depth but I'm sure they have some quality arms.
WNEC 2, St Joes 1 thru 4 1/2...
The bears of bridgewater 2-0 in the regionals. Madness, madness i say. This regional has been a very fun one to watch. I cant believe all the upets all around the country. Its funny how in baseball more so than any other sport any team can win on any day. It seems in basketball or football eventually over the game the cream will rise to the top and usually the better team wins. Baseball its all about pitching and all it takes is one team to have a really good pitcher and it immediatly evens the playing field.
Good luck to all teams left!!!
Whats up with these college coaches leaving their starters in one too many batters. Husson coach must have been blind not to see his starter pitch very well for 6 innings but the kid was leaving one hanging curve ball after another and, gee what a surprise, the wheaton kid smacks a grannie that wins the game.....THEN he pulls the kid. always one batter too late. happens all the time with these college coaches...if you dont trust your bullpen, replace them with cheerleaders or position players. husson home now becuase of bad coaching.
Quote from: wordsmith on May 19, 2011, 08:18:06 AM
MIT nips Tufts
Wheaties over Husson
Bridgewater over RIC
WNEC over St. Joe's
3-4 but out smarted by MIT in yesterday's round:
Today our guest picker is Kareem Abdul Jabbar who tells me the only caveat to picking today is that he get a statue erected in the D3 hall of Fame if he gets all of them right.
Wheaties down RIC (Sink or swim for the Anchormen)
Tufts over St. Joe's (this is a toss-up game & I want to say St. Joe's but the Jumbos were close last year to the Golden Ring & that might give them the edge this year)
WNEC over Bridgewater (WNEC usually slips up once per tournament in the early rounds is this the year they go all the way to The Little Apple?)
Word
Wheaton over RIC - Good run by RIC but I see them bowing out today.
Tufts over St Joes - Tough call and could go either way.
Bridgewater State over WNEC - **Upset alert!! If Bridgewater's bats stay hot they have a chance here.
Wheaton over RIC
Tufts over St. Joe's
WNEC over Bridgewater St.
My picks have been pretty solid so far, so I hope to keep that up today. I see Wheaton being Wheaton by taking care of business and finally being able to hit their stride against RIC. Tufts should be able to handle St. Joe's, but you never know. And I can see Bridgewater St. giving WNEC some problems. WNEC beat Bridgewater St. 10-8 during the regular season, but I see this one as a lower scoring game. Gotta go with my Golden Bears though!
After 3 RIC 0 Wheaton 2
ric pushing self destruct button couple of errors back to back with a bunt and a double mixed in
4-0 wheaton
make that three errors rough inning getting rougher 5-0 wheaton
Losing 6-0 Wheaton hits a soft flair into right field. THe right fielder pulls up and lets it fall in. allowing the guys on second and third to both score easily. Now with your season on the line, why not take a shot at that ball???? If you miss it they both score, you pull up they both score. I know you dont really dive towards the line but that ball wasnt going to go far if it bounced by. I think why not take a shot at it and keep the game within striking. 8-0 Wheaton
Am i being to hard on the RIC right fielder?
Yes :D
Outfielders are taught not to let anything "by them" unless it is do or die in the last inning.
Former outfielder Word
Final RIC 6 Wheaton 10
Re: the RIC RF, Brent's an INF converted to OF this year because of his stick (7 HR .325 BA), he's a guts ball kid who has overcome some major hurdles, will run through a wall for the team.
Let me clearify my statement. I was not trying to call out the player sorry if it came across harsher than i meant it, and i certainly meant no disrespect. I just really wanted RIC to win and i thought maybe he could of taken a dive at it. I think that RIC is a classy program with great kids that are not jerks, or a$$h@les and they play hard and play to win. I was just hoping that they would knock off wheaton, and i thought that might of been a big point in the game, espically cause they showed a lot of guts and battled back in the 9th. Sorry if it came off worse than i meant it too.
After 5 Tufts 1 St Joe's 0
KSCFan stop stepping on other teams toes, Keene or Amherst didn't make the tournament, stick to words with friends...
LECfan-
My words with friends skills are lacking, anyone that wants to play the ksc fan out there with words with friends the username is keenebuck05.
Bummed that RIC lost, cant bring myself to really route for eastern, um..... go redsox
Quote from: KSCfan on May 20, 2011, 12:08:48 PM
Let me clearify my statement. I was not trying to call out the player sorry if it came across harsher than i meant it, and i certainly meant no disrespect. I just really wanted RIC to win and i thought maybe he could of taken a dive at it. I think that RIC is a classy program with great kids that are not jerks, or a$$h@les and they play hard and play to win. I was just hoping that they would knock off wheaton, and i thought that might of been a big point in the game, espically cause they showed a lot of guts and battled back in the 9th. Sorry if it came off worse than i meant it too.
KSC- no need to clarify.
Unfortunately your statements speak for themselves.
Not sure if this is serious or not but I don't see why everybody is jumping down KSCfan throat....He just asked a question...Everybody is way to serious on here....
Final (11) Tufts 3 St Joe's 4
That was fun...GREAT college baseball game.
I could not be happier for Coach Will and the boys from St. Joe's. Coach Sanborn is a real quality guy, runs a quality program, great facilities, works hard and is often underestimated by the rest of New England. I mean here is a school in southern Maine with an enrollement of a little over 1000 that is right in the backyard of Southern Maine.
Gosh I am so happy for them. ;D ;D
Great game by St Joes and Tufts. Both teams wanted it bad, you could tell. The Monks almost lost it with a failed suicide squeeze but battled back to win.
Great tournament so far by all teams involved.
Final WNEC 11 Bridgewater St 4
Quote from: KSCfan on May 20, 2011, 01:15:13 PM
LECfan-
My words with friends skills are lacking, anyone that wants to play the ksc fan out there with words with friends the username is keenebuck05.
Bummed that RIC lost, cant bring myself to really route for eastern, um..... go redsox
Come on KSCFan, Eastern is an LEC school!!! Still ticked about not getting in heh??? ::)
Good night all around I am also so happy for WNEC. Another great guy as a coach, running a high quality program at a super institution. One more for da Bears and dare we say it...nope not yet....
Congrats Coach Matt and the Golden Bears.
Word
One win away from having the chance to chase the Walnut and Bronze. Go Golden Bears!!!
The question is will they go back to game 1 starter Rogers or start DiTommaso or Jefferis? In my mind, it is a no-brainer that Rogers is going to start on short rest and get the job done! Coach LaBranche will find a way to get it done and show why he was selected as the Coach of the Year in New England.
Take a look at the NY Regional...rain forced a heavy schedule today and EConn has been dealt quite a hand. Played early this morning to finish a suspended game from Thurs., then early this afternoon and now waiting around for an 11pm start tonight :o :o
May. 20
Cortland State 7 Eastern Connecticut 6 Final
Division III New York Regional susp. from Thursday @ Auburn, N.Y.
Keystone 6 Farmingdale State 2 Final BX
Eastern Connecticut 6 Clarkson 1 Final
Farmingdale State 2 Brockport State 6 Final
Division III New York Regional, Farmingdale or Keystone @ Auburn, N.Y.
Cortland State Keystone 8:00 PM LS A
D-III Baseball New York Regional @ Auburn, N.Y.
Eastern Connecticut Brockport State 11:00 PM LS A
KSC Fan,
I know you didn't mean any bad words concerning RIC's right fielder, and Coach Zilly's comments concerning him was right on. One of the most talented kids I have seen and coached. I am a little dissapointed that RIC is out because they were a fine, fun team to root for. Being an Eastern fan in RI, I loved the additions Coach V made this year to his squad and told him so back in January when they were still hitting inside at the Rec Center. All those kids who try to go the D1 route and don't find happiness or a place to play, can look to programs like RIC and Eastern and more importantly the LEC. Nice job Anchorman and go Warriors .
Fog delay on the Cape?
THE fog comes
on little cat feet.
It sits looking
over harbor and city
on silent haunches
and then moves on.
Carl Sandberg
Quote from: GBearsAlum15 on May 20, 2011, 07:52:52 PM
One win away from having the chance to chase the Walnut and Bronze. Go Golden Bears!!!
The question is will they go back to game 1 starter Rogers or start DiTommaso or Jefferis? In my mind, it is a no-brainer that Rogers is going to start on short rest and get the job done! Coach LaBranche will find a way to get it done and show why he was selected as the Coach of the Year in New England.
I think that they will go back to Rogers only if there is an if necessary game on Sunday. But then again, on Sunday morning if Rogers tells LaBranche that he's ready to go, I would have to assume he will pitch right away.
Different Regionals different rules. At NY Regional, EConn plays parts of THREE games on Friday. EConn starts Friday completing a rain delayed Cortland game(ECONN lost). Then beats Clarkson. Then starts a game vs. Brockport at 11pm. However at foggy New England Region, WNEC stays undefeated beating Bridgewater State thinking they would play late Saturday afternoon for the championship vs. the winner of the Wheaton/St. Joe game winner vs. Bridgewater. But the Wheaton vs. St. Joe's game was suspended in the seventh inning tonight due to fog so they will finish on Saturday. The winner will then play Bridgewater. WNEC being undefeated should the play late Saturday afternoon. HOWEVER, unlike the NY regional preference to play-on, WNEC's advantage of playing a team who had already played Saturday was taken away by having the Championship game or games moved to Sunday. The undefeated advantage of WNEC is diminished due to this QUESTIONABLE scheduling change. Two regions Two different formats???? Obviously, whoever plays WNEC in the finals is advantaged by this NCAA/ECAC decision. They get a nights rest when in the past they would have played their 2nd game of the day vs. WNEC.
Quote from: Zipball on May 21, 2011, 01:31:46 AM
Different Regionals different rules. At NY Regional, EConn plays parts of THREE games on Friday. EConn starts Friday completing a rain delayed Cortland game(ECONN lost). Then beats Clarkson. Then starts a game vs. Brockport at 11pm. However at foggy New England Region, WNEC stays undefeated beating Bridgewater State thinking they would play late Saturday afternoon for the championship vs. the winner of the Wheaton/St. Joe game winner vs. Bridgewater. But the Wheaton vs. St. Joe's game was suspended in the seventh inning tonight due to fog so they will finish on Saturday. The winner will then play Bridgewater. WNEC being undefeated should the play late Saturday afternoon. HOWEVER, unlike the NY regional preference to play-on, WNEC's advantage of playing a team who had already played Saturday was taken away by having the Championship game or games moved to Sunday. The undefeated advantage of WNEC is diminished due to this QUESTIONABLE scheduling change. Two regions Two different formats???? Obviously, whoever plays WNEC in the finals is advantaged by this NCAA/ECAC decision. They get a nights rest when in the past they would have played their 2nd game of the day vs. WNEC.
WNEC gains an extra days rest for their pitchers. Don't overlook that advantage.
Final Wheaton 5 St Joe's 3
Quote from: wordsmith on May 21, 2011, 07:48:34 AM
Quote from: Zipball on May 21, 2011, 01:31:46 AM
Different Regionals different rules. At NY Regional, EConn plays parts of THREE games on Friday. EConn starts Friday completing a rain delayed Cortland game(ECONN lost). Then beats Clarkson. Then starts a game vs. Brockport at 11pm. However at foggy New England Region, WNEC stays undefeated beating Bridgewater State thinking they would play late Saturday afternoon for the championship vs. the winner of the Wheaton/St. Joe game winner vs. Bridgewater. But the Wheaton vs. St. Joe's game was suspended in the seventh inning tonight due to fog so they will finish on Saturday. The winner will then play Bridgewater. WNEC being undefeated should the play late Saturday afternoon. HOWEVER, unlike the NY regional preference to play-on, WNEC's advantage of playing a team who had already played Saturday was taken away by having the Championship game or games moved to Sunday. The undefeated advantage of WNEC is diminished due to this QUESTIONABLE scheduling change. Two regions Two different formats???? Obviously, whoever plays WNEC in the finals is advantaged by this NCAA/ECAC decision. They get a nights rest when in the past they would have played their 2nd game of the day vs. WNEC.
WNEC gains an extra days rest for their pitchers. Don't overlook that advantage.
WNEC doesn't need the extra day compared to Wheaton and Bridgewater. This helps those teams out tremendously. Compared to WNEC, Bridgewater will have played one more game and Wheaton will have played two more games.
Quote from: wordsmith on May 20, 2011, 08:19:37 AM
WNEC over Bridgewater (WNEC usually slips up once per tournament in the early rounds is this the year they go all the way to The Little Apple?)
Word
Back at it today.
WNEC needs Matt Rodgers to close this thing out. The extra days rest was to WNEC's benefit for him. WNEC wins and heads to The Little Apple.
(Warning: WNEC needs to close this out in Game 1!)
Word
Final Bridgewater 0 WNEC 9
Congrats to WNEC!!!!
;D ;D ;D
WNEC IS WORLD SERIES BOUND!!
CONGRATS to Coach Matt and the boys!
WNEC headed to Appleton!!! Congrats to Coach LaBranche and the GBear Express! Couldn't be more proud to be a Golden Bear. All of the work put in for so long has finally payed off. The pitching was phenomenal all week, along with very solid defense and timely hitting. Carry the momentum to Appleton and make New England proud!
Congratulations WNEC!!! Amazing pitching throughout the tournament as WNEC had a 1.25 ERA through their 4 games and their starting pitching had a 0.62 ERA. It doesn't get much better than that.
Congrats to wnec on winning the regional! Good luck in appleton!!!
I'd like to add my congats to WNEC. Good luck and enjoy Appleton.
Quote from: Stump on May 22, 2011, 09:08:38 PM
I'd like to add my congats to WNEC. Good luck and enjoy Appleton.
Best of Luck to Western New England College in the 2011 College World Series!!!!!!!!!!!
The Field is WIDE open. Bring back the hardware WNEC. Best of luck.
I agree foto, WNEC has a very good draw, granted at this point everyone is good, but Marietta and Kean are probably the best 2 teams, and Chapman is probably the best day 1 team. All three of those teams are on the other side of the bracket with World Series veteran Salisbury. As the home team, another World Series veteran Wisconsin-Whitewater must be absolutely loving their draw, as Buena Vista, Keystone, and WNEC are all rookies to the World Series.
From the looks of things at the start of the CWS week, Marietta looks to roll over everyone, but...... you really never know these days.
Again, its who is hot during the next week, as seen last year with Illinois Wesleyan!!!
I believe that WNEC definitely has a pretty decent shot to win it all. Anything can happen at this point, and all 8 teams are here for a reason. ECSUAlum like you said, Illinois Wesylean was the case in point last year. Whoever gets hot is the team that will bring home the hardware. If WNEC can continue their pitching dominance, they can beat anyone. WNEC's first round draw in Keystone seems to be a good matchup and should be a very competitive game. Both teams are making their first trip to the World Series and will be looking to make a statement. On paper Marietta is no doubt the favorite, sporting a .344 team BA and a ridiculous 1.71 team ERA. But like you guys said, you just never know. The field looks solid this year even with 3 newcomers. Go WNEC, bring the Walnut and Bronze back to New England!
Quote from: GBearsAlum15 on May 23, 2011, 03:53:46 PM
I believe that WNEC definitely has a pretty decent shot to win it all. Anything can happen at this point, and all 8 teams are here for a reason. ECSUAlum like you said, Illinois Wesylean was the case in point last year. Whoever gets hot is the team that will bring home the hardware. If WNEC can continue their pitching dominance, they can beat anyone. WNEC's first round draw in Keystone seems to be a good matchup and should be a very competitive game. Both teams are making their first trip to the World Series and will be looking to make a statement. On paper Marietta is no doubt the favorite, sporting a .344 team BA and a ridiculous 1.71 team ERA. But like you guys said, you just never know. The field looks solid this year even with 3 newcomers. Go WNEC, bring the Walnut and Bronze back to New England!
GBearsAlum,
I will certainly be rooting for the Golden Bears, and in addition I think it is really cool that 3 teams beside WNEC are having their first trip to Wisconsin. It is especially nice to see WNEC there as they have had a wonderful program for many many years!! Let's hope the offense, D and pitching stays torrid, and, if so, they can beat anybody.
Finally, if the GBEARS are successful, I am sure we will be graced with some excellent Wordsmith posts, which are always enjoyable ;D ;D ;D 8-) 8-)