Thought about starting one of these for a couple years as a one-stop shop for story ideas, kudos, comments, you suck's, corrections, or anything else dealing with my Around the East regional column. Ryan Tipps, the South columnist, also has a board for his column, and it's been cool in the short time it's been up, so I thought I would borrow (read: take) his idea.
So, what do you think of the column? Ways to make it better? Any ideas from schools I can't get out to? Let me hear what you have to say.
Adam Samrov
d3football.com Around the East columnist
Well DC let dlip be the first to say, like he has before, that ATE is his favorite weekly release by D3 football.com. Some reasons are because dlip bleeds Garnet, cares about anything having to do with the Garnet(which happens to be in the East Region), and really enjoys the way the column is written. If dlip had to make any suggestions he would say:
-keep coming up with your top ten East Regional poll
-point out and discuss important upcoming East Region games for the week
-make your picks for those games
-look for some unique player stories, we have some seriously hard core academic institutions here in the east and student athletes who work their asses off and make huge sacrifices on a daily basis to compete
-keep doing what you are doing because dlip thinks its great
DC, there is 1 story at Union that I think hasnt ever been brought up. Union has 2 players on its team who hail from New Orleans and were recruited after Hurricane Katrina. Im not sure if either of them list that as their hometown now in their online bios/roster or whatever, so this could be why it hasnt been mentioned. But they are Jared Gourrier and Sean Conerly. Could be a very interesting story involving 1 of the worst tragedies in American History and how these 2 fine young men would up at Union College all the way in NY!
Id be very interested as all I know is that they hail from NOLA......for what its worth!
Quote from: Reno Hightower on September 16, 2009, 05:37:41 PM
DC, there is 1 story at Union that I think hasnt ever been brought up. Union has 2 players on its team who hail from New Orleans and were recruited after Hurricane Katrina. Im not sure if either of them list that as their hometown now in their online bios/roster or whatever, so this could be why it hasnt been mentioned. But they are Jared Gourrier and Sean Conerly. Could be a very interesting story involving 1 of the worst tragedies in American History and how these 2 fine young men would up at Union College all the way in NY!
Id be very interested as all I know is that they hail from NOLA......for what its worth!
On top of this Jared Gourrier (not sure about Conerly) volunteers at my elementary school (as do other Dutch) and has been nothing short of fantastic with the children. If one is looking for a role model Jared is as good as they come.
Quote from: Reno Hightower on September 16, 2009, 05:37:41 PM
DC, there is 1 story at Union that I think hasnt ever been brought up. Union has 2 players on its team who hail from New Orleans and were recruited after Hurricane Katrina. Im not sure if either of them list that as their hometown now in their online bios/roster or whatever, so this could be why it hasnt been mentioned. But they are Jared Gourrier and Sean Conerly. Could be a very interesting story involving 1 of the worst tragedies in American History and how these 2 fine young men would up at Union College all the way in NY!
Id be very interested as all I know is that they hail from NOLA......for what its worth!
Excellent idea, reno. Thanks. :)
Quote from: dewcrew88 on September 16, 2009, 03:42:04 PM
So, what do you think of the column? Ways to make it better? Any ideas from schools I can't get out to? Let me hear what you have to say.
Adam Samrov
d3football.com Around the East columnist
In 1985 (when the East Region's answer to Jimmy Olsen was still in diapers), the
Coca-Cola Company announced that it was ceasing production of its original formula (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_Coke), which would be replaced by New Coke, described by a Coca-Cola executive as "smoother, uh, uh, yet, uh, rounder yet, uh, bolder ... it has a more harmonious flavor. " Public outcry over the formula change was so great that the original formula Coke was reintroduced less than 3 months after it had been terminated.
Here's some public outcry. Bring back predictions!
Not to be picky, but Union is 2-1 (it's your Pioneers that are 2-2). And can Utica really be resurgent?
Hey DC nice job as always! dlip always enjoys the predictions because of the amount of talk they stir up. By the way, no way Bizarroneers walk into Frank Bailey Saturday night and come away with a W. dlip feels this game will be close but the U is hungry and dlip feels The U "O" wakes up and the D holds Swanton up enough to get the W. dlip made his predictions on "In the Huddle" last Sunday night thanks to Frank Rossi opening up his arms up to a local boy and including him!
Quote from: AUKaz00 on October 01, 2009, 10:31:19 AM
Not to be picky, but Union is 2-1 (it's your Pioneers that are 2-2). And can Utica really be resurgent?
Oops. I thought Union played four games, and then never remembered to change it... and maybe the pioneers are surgent? is that a word? :D
Note: SJF lost on the road.....and will likely continue to do so :'(
I like your weekly report. And hey, if you want to throw Utica in there every week, do what you gotta do, it's your column, and you include everyone else as well so I see no problems with it.
DC great article this week, your best one yet of the season. dlip is loving the predicitons as well as the great story on Alex Smith. It will be interesting with him now competing against Woodard for the starting job having just been coaching him earlier in the season. Anyway thanks again for the time, effort, and thoroughness of your ATE article.
Quote from: dlippiel on October 08, 2009, 12:06:57 PM
DC great article this week, your best one yet of the season. dlip is loving the predicitons as well as the great story on Alex Smith. It will be interesting with him now competing against Woodard for the starting job having just been coaching him earlier in the season. Anyway thanks again for the time, effort, and thoroughness of your ATE article.
Thanks.. figured i had to make it good after all of Frank's comments... ;)
They haven't updated the internet here in Mayberry yet today. When I go to the ATR page I still see the link to last week's ATE about parity. Do I need a new piece of string to connect my PC to our tin can server or what?
Quote from: AUKaz00 on October 08, 2009, 02:32:44 PM
They haven't updated the internet here in Mayberry yet today. When I go to the ATR page I still see the link to last week's ATE about parity. Do I need a new piece of string to connect my PC to our tin can server or what?
Had the same deal here.....refreshed the page and Voila! All the columns were suddenly this week's!
Quote from: Upstate on September 16, 2009, 10:02:01 PM
Quote from: redswarm81 on September 16, 2009, 09:54:45 PM
Here's some public outcry. Bring back predictions!
Agree!
Dew, you can borrow my prediction: Not a single East Region team makes it into the d3football.com Top 25
Quote from: redswarm81 on October 10, 2009, 04:01:44 PM
Quote from: Upstate on September 16, 2009, 10:02:01 PM
Quote from: redswarm81 on September 16, 2009, 09:54:45 PM
Here's some public outcry. Bring back predictions!
Agree!
Dew, you can borrow my prediction: Not a single East Region team makes it into the d3football.com Top 25
I think that's a safe prediction!
Quote from: redswarm81 on October 10, 2009, 04:01:44 PM
Quote from: Upstate on September 16, 2009, 10:02:01 PM
Quote from: redswarm81 on September 16, 2009, 09:54:45 PM
Here's some public outcry. Bring back predictions!
Agree!
Dew, you can borrow my prediction: Not a single East Region team makes it into the d3football.com Top 25
Thanks. Not to be totally crude, but when it comes to the d3 top 25, we are totally ****ed. (Pulling out my inner dlip! ;)
Quote from: dewcrew88 on October 10, 2009, 07:28:49 PM
Quote from: redswarm81 on October 10, 2009, 04:01:44 PM
Quote from: Upstate on September 16, 2009, 10:02:01 PM
Quote from: redswarm81 on September 16, 2009, 09:54:45 PM
Here's some public outcry. Bring back predictions!
Agree!
Dew, you can borrow my prediction: Not a single East Region team makes it into the d3football.com Top 25
Thanks. Not to be totally crude, but when it comes to the d3 top 25, we are totally ****ed. (Pulling out my inner dlip! ;)
Actually, Del Val DID place #23.
While there's a lot of fb still to be played, it looks like you better set out the playoff welcome mat for the Purple Machine again (though it might also be Wesley).
DC great article this week. Like dlip has said in the past it is the D3.com press release he looks forward to most each week. This week was by far your best and dlip appreciates it. Unfortunately dlip has to agree on your Union/Salisbury pick. dlip lives and loves his Garnet but feels like this weekend spells trouble for the Dutch. After last weeks poor showing against SLU even at 5-1 the U has so much to prove. If they can take this one in Maryland and return at 6-1 with some momentum they may turn a corner. This is still a very very hard team to read. +k for the article!
DewCrew:
Great column. As posted earlier, (and it was probably the SID at Fisher who coined the phrase, I sort of like the "Zamaitis Touch" as a spin off of "The Midas Touch." Looking forward to the battle at Growney.
Pep is hoping the band can pull it together after nearly a month not playing... Since the Sept. 26 win over Springfield, the band had an open date Oct. 3, Mid-semester break Oct. 10 when AU beat Hartwick, and another open date Oct. 17. The band will be there early in order to warm up and see what we got. Get the fight song ready.....Stay tuned!
On Saxon Warriors!
Hobart lost to Union 31-21 not 38-28, but another great ATE.
Quote from: TGP on October 27, 2009, 10:06:12 PM
Hobart lost to Union 31-21 not 38-28, but another great ATE.
Why did I write it down as 38-28? Damn it. Thanks for the heads-up.
That was the score of the great (I think it was an excellent game) between Bart and Union in Schenectady in 2005 for the LL championship. Angiletta (I think) got sprung by a great WR block for a screen turned into 85ish yard play late to put a close game away. Cragg tried to go for a TD at the end of the 1st half instead of an easy FG and got stopped as time expired.
Good ATE. It seems as though you've taken the (constructive) criticisms to heart and (hopefully) shelved the regular servicing of Utica and the E8. It's easy to forget there are 50 or so teams in the region and focus on a couple, but this style of column does a greater service to everyone, including those fans of the E8.
Quote from: pumkinattack on October 28, 2009, 08:05:51 AM
That was the score of the great (I think it was an excellent game) between Bart and Union in Schenectady in 2005 for the LL championship. Angiletta (I think) got sprung by a great WR block for a screen turned into 85ish yard play late to put a close game away. Cragg tried to go for a TD at the end of the 1st half instead of an easy FG and got stopped as time expired.
Good ATE. It seems as though you've taken the (constructive) criticisms to heart and (hopefully) shelved the regular servicing of Utica and the E8. It's easy to forget there are 50 or so teams in the region and focus on a couple, but this style of column does a greater service to everyone, including those fans of the E8.
I try my best to have every team and every conference represented in the column.
DC even getting posts out here in LA:
Quote from: D O.C. on October 28, 2009, 12:22:12 PM
OxyBob is not shouting in the wind, so it appears
Adam Samrov Around the East
In the ATN Podcast, Pat and Keith talk about how Mount Union could still be imported to the East even if Alfred AND Albright finish undefeated. I know that the scheduling committee picks the top four teams, regardless of region, but if two actual East Region teams finish unbeaten and Mount Union still gets imported in, the whole Division III playoff setup is a farce. A complete farce. What do you think? Do you believe the setup is unfair? E-mail me at adam.samrov@d3football.com and put ATR as the subject line.
ATE is national, yo!
Quote from: TGP on October 28, 2009, 10:53:50 PM
DC even getting posts out here in LA:
Quote from: D O.C. on October 28, 2009, 12:22:12 PM
OxyBob is not shouting in the wind, so it appears
Adam Samrov Around the East
In the ATN Podcast, Pat and Keith talk about how Mount Union could still be imported to the East even if Alfred AND Albright finish undefeated. I know that the scheduling committee picks the top four teams, regardless of region, but if two actual East Region teams finish unbeaten and Mount Union still gets imported in, the whole Division III playoff setup is a farce. A complete farce. What do you think? Do you believe the setup is unfair? E-mail me at adam.samrov@d3football.com and put ATR as the subject line.
ATE is national, yo!
DewCrew better be careful...Pat hates it when people disagree with him!!!
Pat is getting upset!!!
I think in this conversation people have to separate the idea that a team from the east deserves a #1 seed on a national level (which we can't know without inter-regional games, but we all know, except RS, that there's no East team in the top 5-6 in the country) from the idea that this system masquerades as objective and pretends to take the responsibility away from the committee when in fact it's just as subjective as the old system. Personally, with 32 teams being allowed in I think we should go back to a subjective committee based system. If it's a regionally balanced selection committee, at 32 teams there's no way that a team who has any chance on winning the nat'l title will be excluded. At 16, maybe the 17th best team won't win the title, but I'd believe that the 17th best team could influence the outcome (knock off a better team that might knock off a nat'l contender or have some other influence depending on pairings). I think some people only hear the complaint about the East not getting a number #1 seed and it gives them cover to ignore the imperfections in the system, which given the financial constraints may always create a problem, but at least the NCAA should grow a sack, be transparent and open to criticism, or maybe more schools should follow the NESCAC route and/or drop major D1 FB/BB into a separate entity since that's all that drives the NCAA and it doesn't appear to represent the rest of the system very well. I also blame school administrators for not taking a stand, but we all know 99% of them are gutless at the end of the day anyway.
Quote from: Yanks 99 on October 29, 2009, 08:21:22 AM
Quote from: TGP on October 28, 2009, 10:53:50 PM
DC even getting posts out here in LA:
Quote from: D O.C. on October 28, 2009, 12:22:12 PM
OxyBob is not shouting in the wind, so it appears
Adam Samrov Around the East
In the ATN Podcast, Pat and Keith talk about how Mount Union could still be imported to the East even if Alfred AND Albright finish undefeated. I know that the scheduling committee picks the top four teams, regardless of region, but if two actual East Region teams finish unbeaten and Mount Union still gets imported in, the whole Division III playoff setup is a farce. A complete farce. What do you think? Do you believe the setup is unfair? E-mail me at adam.samrov@d3football.com and put ATR as the subject line.
ATE is national, yo!
DewCrew better be careful...Pat hates it when people disagree with him!!!
Pat is getting upset!!!
I ain't scurred... haha... pat and I disagree on this point every time it comes up.
Quote from: pumkinattack on October 29, 2009, 09:15:07 AM
I think in this conversation people have to separate the idea that a team from the east deserves a #1 seed on a national level (which we can't know without inter-regional games, but we all know, except RS, that there's no East team in the top 5-6 in the country) from the idea that this system masquerades as objective and pretends to take the responsibility away from the committee when in fact it's just as subjective as the old system. Personally, with 32 teams being allowed in I think we should go back to a subjective committee based system. If it's a regionally balanced selection committee, at 32 teams there's no way that a team who has any chance on winning the nat'l title will be excluded. At 16, maybe the 17th best team won't win the title, but I'd believe that the 17th best team could influence the outcome (knock off a better team that might knock off a nat'l contender or have some other influence depending on pairings). I think some people only hear the complaint about the East not getting a number #1 seed and it gives them cover to ignore the imperfections in the system, which given the financial constraints may always create a problem, but at least the NCAA should grow a sack, be transparent and open to criticism, or maybe more schools should follow the NESCAC route and/or drop major D1 FB/BB into a separate entity since that's all that drives the NCAA and it doesn't appear to represent the rest of the system very well. I also blame school administrators for not taking a stand, but we all know 99% of them are gutless at the end of the day anyway.
If the NCAA wants to seed the top 4 teams, then build brackets around them...FINE. Not a bad idea, but put your parameters and ideas in writing so there is no grey area.
To the best of my knowledge, in the past few years, the NCAA has done the above. Be open about your plan and no one would really have a problem. To simply surprise fans randomly by building the brackets around the 4 seeds is the problem.
Regional rankings go by OWP & OOWP....kind of convoluted, but everyone understands the rules. To have no rule or parameter that states the top 4 seeds are 1's, irritates people because of the lack of consistency.
Quote from: Union89 on October 29, 2009, 04:00:01 PM
If the NCAA wants to seed the top 4 teams, then build brackets around them...FINE. Not a bad idea, but put your parameters and ideas in writing so there is no grey area.
To the best of my knowledge, in the past few years, the NCAA has done the above. Be open about your plan and no one would really have a problem. To simply surprise fans randomly by building the brackets around the 4 seeds is the problem.
Regional rankings go by OWP & OOWP....kind of convoluted, but everyone understands the rules. To have no rule or parameter that states the top 4 seeds are 1's, irritates people because of the lack of consistency.
Word!
I think this is all something we can DLIPing agree with!
Cmon dew! No mention of cortaca in around the east this week?! I know there are no ncaa playoff implications at stake but its undoubtedly the biggest game in the east region each year - playoffs excluded. How bout a prediction on the board?
Quote from: bomber3 on November 10, 2009, 05:46:33 PM
Cmon dew! No mention of cortaca in around the east this week?! I know there are no ncaa playoff implications at stake but its undoubtedly the biggest game in the east region each year - playoffs excluded. How bout a prediction on the board?
I wouldn't go as far as to say it's the biggest game of the year in the east region each year. It's an absolutely great rivalry but that doesn't constitute it being the biggest game each year.
Quote from: bomber3 on November 10, 2009, 05:46:33 PM
Cmon dew! No mention of cortaca in around the east this week?! I know there are no ncaa playoff implications at stake but its undoubtedly the biggest game in the east region each year - playoffs excluded. How bout a prediction on the board?
Union/RPI may have something to say about that being the oldest rivalry in NYS. Cortica is huge and a great rivalry for sure. Yet this year, with both teams being down, as well as many other games with huge playoff implications, dlip can see how DC didn't hit it in his ATE. dlip is going for Ithaca in this match-up. Like he has said before he is a big Grastorf fan and would love to see the kid go out on top.
Quote from: dlippiel on November 10, 2009, 06:31:14 PM
Quote from: bomber3 on November 10, 2009, 05:46:33 PM
Cmon dew! No mention of cortaca in around the east this week?! I know there are no ncaa playoff implications at stake but its undoubtedly the biggest game in the east region each year - playoffs excluded. How bout a prediction on the board?
Union/RPI may have something to say about that being the oldest rivalry in NYS. Cortica is huge and a great rivalry for sure. Yet this year, with both teams being down, as well as many other games with huge playoff implications, dlip can see how DC didn't hit it in his ATE. dlip is going for Ithaca in this match-up. Like he has said before he is a big Grastorf fan and would love to see the kid go out on top.
I never said anything about oldest. For comparison's sake the Union/RPI game this year had an attendance of 3239. Cortaca will draw close to 4x that. Show me another game in the east that draws half of what cortaca game. It might not be the most important game playoff wise but in terms of attendance and impact on the schools its close to being the biggest game in the region each year.
Quote from: bomber3 on November 10, 2009, 06:53:53 PM
Quote from: dlippiel on November 10, 2009, 06:31:14 PM
Quote from: bomber3 on November 10, 2009, 05:46:33 PM
Cmon dew! No mention of cortaca in around the east this week?! I know there are no ncaa playoff implications at stake but its undoubtedly the biggest game in the east region each year - playoffs excluded. How bout a prediction on the board?
Union/RPI may have something to say about that being the oldest rivalry in NYS. Cortica is huge and a great rivalry for sure. Yet this year, with both teams being down, as well as many other games with huge playoff implications, dlip can see how DC didn't hit it in his ATE. dlip is going for Ithaca in this match-up. Like he has said before he is a big Grastorf fan and would love to see the kid go out on top.
I never said anything about oldest. For comparison's sake the Union/RPI game this year had an attendance of 3239. Cortaca will draw close to 4x that. Show me another game in the east that draws half of what cortaca game. It might not be the most important game playoff wise but in terms of attendance and impact on the schools its close to being the biggest game in the region each year.
UR/SJF draws a pretty big crowd year after year (5,000+)...
Heck AU/SJF drew close to 5,000 this season...
If SJF/UR had a bigger venue (Paetec Park perhaps) it could get well above 6/7 K...
Quote from: bomber3 on November 10, 2009, 05:46:33 PM
Cmon dew! No mention of cortaca in around the east this week?! I know there are no ncaa playoff implications at stake but its undoubtedly the biggest game in the east region each year - playoffs excluded. How bout a prediction on the board?
I would agree that it not being mentioned is a big oversight... even with no playoff implication. But I don't want to start one of these arguments again... ;)
Quote from: bomber3 on November 10, 2009, 06:53:53 PM
Quote from: dlippiel on November 10, 2009, 06:31:14 PM
Quote from: bomber3 on November 10, 2009, 05:46:33 PM
Cmon dew! No mention of cortaca in around the east this week?! I know there are no ncaa playoff implications at stake but its undoubtedly the biggest game in the east region each year - playoffs excluded. How bout a prediction on the board?
Union/RPI may have something to say about that being the oldest rivalry in NYS. Cortica is huge and a great rivalry for sure. Yet this year, with both teams being down, as well as many other games with huge playoff implications, dlip can see how DC didn't hit it in his ATE. dlip is going for Ithaca in this match-up. Like he has said before he is a big Grastorf fan and would love to see the kid go out on top.
I never said anything about oldest. For comparison's sake the Union/RPI game this year had an attendance of 3239. Cortaca will draw close to 4x that. Show me another game in the east that draws half of what cortaca game. It might not be the most important game playoff wise but in terms of attendance and impact on the schools its close to being the biggest game in the region each year.
Last year Cortica was huge....this year....not so much.
Quote from: bomber3 on November 10, 2009, 06:53:53 PM
Quote from: dlippiel on November 10, 2009, 06:31:14 PM
Quote from: bomber3 on November 10, 2009, 05:46:33 PM
Cmon dew! No mention of cortaca in around the east this week?! I know there are no ncaa playoff implications at stake but its undoubtedly the biggest game in the east region each year - playoffs excluded. How bout a prediction on the board?
Union/RPI may have something to say about that being the oldest rivalry in NYS. Cortica is huge and a great rivalry for sure. Yet this year, with both teams being down, as well as many other games with huge playoff implications, dlip can see how DC didn't hit it in his ATE. dlip is going for Ithaca in this match-up. Like he has said before he is a big Grastorf fan and would love to see the kid go out on top.
I never said anything about oldest. For comparison's sake the Union/RPI game this year had an attendance of 3239. Cortaca will draw close to 4x that. Show me another game in the east that draws half of what cortaca game. It might not be the most important game playoff wise but in terms of attendance and impact on the schools its close to being the biggest game in the region each year.
What does the Williams-Amherst game pull every year?
Quote from: Upstate on November 10, 2009, 07:24:58 PM
Quote from: bomber3 on November 10, 2009, 06:53:53 PM
Quote from: dlippiel on November 10, 2009, 06:31:14 PM
Quote from: bomber3 on November 10, 2009, 05:46:33 PM
Cmon dew! No mention of cortaca in around the east this week?! I know there are no ncaa playoff implications at stake but its undoubtedly the biggest game in the east region each year - playoffs excluded. How bout a prediction on the board?
Union/RPI may have something to say about that being the oldest rivalry in NYS. Cortica is huge and a great rivalry for sure. Yet this year, with both teams being down, as well as many other games with huge playoff implications, dlip can see how DC didn't hit it in his ATE. dlip is going for Ithaca in this match-up. Like he has said before he is a big Grastorf fan and would love to see the kid go out on top.
I never said anything about oldest. For comparison's sake the Union/RPI game this year had an attendance of 3239. Cortaca will draw close to 4x that. Show me another game in the east that draws half of what cortaca game. It might not be the most important game playoff wise but in terms of attendance and impact on the schools its close to being the biggest game in the region each year.
UR/SJF draws a pretty big crowd year after year (5,000+)...
Heck AU/SJF drew close to 5,000 this season...
If SJF/UR had a bigger venue (Paetec Park perhaps) it could get well above 6/7 K...
****...if IC could stay within 4td's of Fisher, that game would draw close to 5000 every year... :o
zing
Quote from: bomber3 on November 10, 2009, 06:53:53 PM
Quote from: dlippiel on November 10, 2009, 06:31:14 PM
Quote from: bomber3 on November 10, 2009, 05:46:33 PM
Cmon dew! No mention of cortaca in around the east this week?! I know there are no ncaa playoff implications at stake but its undoubtedly the biggest game in the east region each year - playoffs excluded. How bout a prediction on the board?
Union/RPI may have something to say about that being the oldest rivalry in NYS. Cortica is huge and a great rivalry for sure. Yet this year, with both teams being down, as well as many other games with huge playoff implications, dlip can see how DC didn't hit it in his ATE. dlip is going for Ithaca in this match-up. Like he has said before he is a big Grastorf fan and would love to see the kid go out on top.
I never said anything about oldest. For comparison's sake the Union/RPI game this year had an attendance of 3239. Cortaca will draw close to 4x that. Show me another game in the east that draws half of what cortaca game. It might not be the most important game playoff wise but in terms of attendance and impact on the schools its close to being the biggest game in the region each year.
true...but
he did. It is the oldest, that's all he was saying.
Quote from: dewcrew88 on October 29, 2009, 01:48:40 PM
Quote from: Yanks 99 on October 29, 2009, 08:21:22 AM
Quote from: TGP on October 28, 2009, 10:53:50 PM
DC even getting posts out here in LA:
Quote from: D O.C. on October 28, 2009, 12:22:12 PM
OxyBob is not shouting in the wind, so it appears
Adam Samrov Around the East
In the ATN Podcast, Pat and Keith talk about how Mount Union could still be imported to the East even if Alfred AND Albright finish undefeated. I know that the scheduling committee picks the top four teams, regardless of region, but if two actual East Region teams finish unbeaten and Mount Union still gets imported in, the whole Division III playoff setup is a farce. A complete farce. What do you think? Do you believe the setup is unfair? E-mail me at adam.samrov@d3football.com and put ATR as the subject line.
ATE is national, yo!
DewCrew better be careful...Pat hates it when people disagree with him!!!
Pat is getting upset!!!
I ain't scurred... haha... pat and I disagree on this point every time it comes up.
Keep fighting the good fight DC...
Sorry about the whiff on Cortaca. I didn't put a lot in the Shoes game this year either. More important games.
Understood... What you wrote about is actually much more important .
Hey man, I'm feeling critical so forgive me but:
Faggiano is getting the Pioneers to Alfred's level? I don't like that statement made without justification. Which would probably need a whole other column.
And:
Quote
Utica is first in the Empire 8 in pass defense and total defense, so it could be a battle.
If Utica's rank in defense hasn't made a difference (i.e. a win) against any other E8 team, why would it make a difference against Alfred?
Also:
QuoteDoes Delaware Valley, if they can get past a disappointing Widener team, they would be 9-1 and undefeated in the MAC at 7-0.
QuoteUtica is getting better, but unfortunately, the Pioneers aren’t up to Alfred level just yet.
QuoteMontclair had the tough test of beating Rowan on the road, but they did in a close 14-7 contest.
I think you need a copy editor.
EDIT: I didn't mean to come off quite as harsh as this sounds. It's late. I guess my main point is the homerism still gets to me a bit. I don't think it's something you can't control, either.
Quote from: dewcrew88 on November 10, 2009, 10:43:00 PM
Sorry about the whiff on Cortaca. I didn't put a lot in the Shoes game this year either. More important games.
Union & RPI alums aren't little bitches.....In Cortica if both teams suck....they suck.
I usually do copy editing but I had to run this afternoon -- dashed the column up before heading to the airport after business meetings for my day job. Guess I need to go back now.
Quote from: Pat Coleman on November 11, 2009, 12:21:54 AM
I usually do copy editing but I had to run this afternoon -- dashed the column up before heading to the airport after business meetings for my day job. Guess I need to go back now.
I'm usually pretty good at self-editing... I missed a couple this time :-\
Quote from: pg04 on November 10, 2009, 08:10:08 PM
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Quote from: dlippiel on November 10, 2009, 06:31:14 PM
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Cmon dew! No mention of cortaca in around the east this week?! I know there are no ncaa playoff implications at stake but its undoubtedly the biggest game in the east region each year - playoffs excluded. How bout a prediction on the board?
Union/RPI may have something to say about that being the oldest rivalry in NYS. Cortica is huge and a great rivalry for sure. Yet this year, with both teams being down, as well as many other games with huge playoff implications, dlip can see how DC didn't hit it in his ATE. dlip is going for Ithaca in this match-up. Like he has said before he is a big Grastorf fan and would love to see the kid go out on top.
I never said anything about oldest. For comparison's sake the Union/RPI game this year had an attendance of 3239. Cortaca will draw close to 4x that. Show me another game in the east that draws half of what cortaca game. It might not be the most important game playoff wise but in terms of attendance and impact on the schools its close to being the biggest game in the region each year.
What does the Williams-Amherst game pull every year?
Last year Amherst/Williams had an attendance of 7326 and Cortaca drew 10300. The year before @ Ithaca they still had 9700 before selling out. That's over 40% more.....I do understand that a good chunk of those are drunk students who could care less. But still....
Quote from: bomber3 on November 11, 2009, 08:41:21 AM
Quote from: pg04 on November 10, 2009, 08:10:08 PM
Quote from: bomber3 on November 10, 2009, 06:53:53 PM
Quote from: dlippiel on November 10, 2009, 06:31:14 PM
Quote from: bomber3 on November 10, 2009, 05:46:33 PM
Cmon dew! No mention of cortaca in around the east this week?! I know there are no ncaa playoff implications at stake but its undoubtedly the biggest game in the east region each year - playoffs excluded. How bout a prediction on the board?
Union/RPI may have something to say about that being the oldest rivalry in NYS. Cortica is huge and a great rivalry for sure. Yet this year, with both teams being down, as well as many other games with huge playoff implications, dlip can see how DC didn't hit it in his ATE. dlip is going for Ithaca in this match-up. Like he has said before he is a big Grastorf fan and would love to see the kid go out on top.
I never said anything about oldest. For comparison's sake the Union/RPI game this year had an attendance of 3239. Cortaca will draw close to 4x that. Show me another game in the east that draws half of what cortaca game. It might not be the most important game playoff wise but in terms of attendance and impact on the schools its close to being the biggest game in the region each year.
What does the Williams-Amherst game pull every year?
Last year Amherst/Williams had an attendance of 7326 and Cortaca drew 10300. The year before @ Ithaca they still had 9700 before selling out. That's over 40% more.....I do understand that a good chunk of those are drunk students who could care less. But still....
You asked for one game that drew half of what Cortaca does and we gave you two...
Quote from: Upstate on November 11, 2009, 08:47:45 AM
Quote from: bomber3 on November 11, 2009, 08:41:21 AM
Quote from: pg04 on November 10, 2009, 08:10:08 PM
Quote from: bomber3 on November 10, 2009, 06:53:53 PM
Quote from: dlippiel on November 10, 2009, 06:31:14 PM
Quote from: bomber3 on November 10, 2009, 05:46:33 PM
Cmon dew! No mention of cortaca in around the east this week?! I know there are no ncaa playoff implications at stake but its undoubtedly the biggest game in the east region each year - playoffs excluded. How bout a prediction on the board?
Union/RPI may have something to say about that being the oldest rivalry in NYS. Cortica is huge and a great rivalry for sure. Yet this year, with both teams being down, as well as many other games with huge playoff implications, dlip can see how DC didn't hit it in his ATE. dlip is going for Ithaca in this match-up. Like he has said before he is a big Grastorf fan and would love to see the kid go out on top.
I never said anything about oldest. For comparison's sake the Union/RPI game this year had an attendance of 3239. Cortaca will draw close to 4x that. Show me another game in the east that draws half of what cortaca game. It might not be the most important game playoff wise but in terms of attendance and impact on the schools its close to being the biggest game in the region each year.
What does the Williams-Amherst game pull every year?
Last year Amherst/Williams had an attendance of 7326 and Cortaca drew 10300. The year before @ Ithaca they still had 9700 before selling out. That's over 40% more.....I do understand that a good chunk of those are drunk students who could care less. But still....
You asked for one game that drew half of what Cortaca does and we gave you two...
My apologies for not clarifying the east region as the conferences the ATE column covers. Amherst/Williams are under the Around the Northeast column and, not to beat a dead horse, but was covered in this week's ATNE column (yes I know there are playoff implications). So with the UR/Fisher game's attendance @ 5400 and Cortaca 10300 last year, that's pretty close to being double. We'll call it a draw ;)
DC, I hate you! Why couldn't you have been more of a homer and picked the Moose to win?!? If Fisher wins the E6, I will hold you to blame!!!
I'm back and I'm back big! The new season of Division III football is starting and you need to be along for the ride.
The first column is out, take a look at my top 10 games in the region for 2010!
Also, follow me on Twitter! @d3fbEAST is where to go to follow throughout the season.
http://www.d3football.com/columns/around-the-region/east/2010
Quote from: dewcrew88 on September 01, 2010, 05:58:20 PM
I'm back and I'm back big! The new season of Division III football is starting and you need to be along for the ride.
The first column is out, take a look at my top 10 games in the region for 2010!
Also, follow me on Twitter! @d3fbEAST is where to go to follow throughout the season.
http://www.d3football.com/columns/around-the-region/east/2010
good stuff! bring it on i am ready!!! dvc has a bunch of tough games this year in and out of conference, so it should be a blast watching their progress
Quote from: dewcrew88 on September 01, 2010, 05:58:20 PM
I'm back and I'm back big! The new season of Division III football is starting and you need to be along for the ride.
The first column is out, take a look at my top 10 games in the region for 2010!
Also, follow me on Twitter! @d3fbEAST is where to go to follow throughout the season.
http://www.d3football.com/columns/around-the-region/east/2010
Nice start Adam ATE is clearly dlip's favorite written part of this web-site week in and week out! dlip can't wait to head out to Butterfield on the 11th when the Dutchmen meet the Bombers!
Quote from: dewcrew88 on September 01, 2010, 05:58:20 PM
I'm back and I'm back big! The new season of Division III football is starting and you need to be along for the ride.
The first column is out, take a look at my top 10 games in the region for 2010!
Also, follow me on Twitter! @d3fbEAST is where to go to follow throughout the season.
http://www.d3football.com/columns/around-the-region/east/2010
I got all excited about this and then remembered... Susquehanna's no longer in the East. Oops. :( <scurries off to Around the Mid-Atlantic>
It's our loss Grove - the Crusaders brought a lot to the LL. Good luck in the CC - it's a great conference.
DC88 - nice overview. I agree on your game picks, especially the SJF v. Hobart Saturday night lights game on 9/25.
Maybe you can join us on ITH later this year to discuss the East Region in general?
Yeah, it was a good balanced job. And no mention of Utica!
For the Bart-SJF game, it should also be mentioned that this wicked sweet band is going to be playing at (not on) the (new) Boz before the game. I heard they're the next Pearl Jam (in the 90's, when Eddie Vedder had energy and cared about tearing it up).
Quote from: TGP on September 02, 2010, 11:28:48 AM
It's our loss Grove - the Crusaders brought a lot to the LL. Good luck in the CC - it's a great conference.
DC88 - nice overview. I agree on your game picks, especially the SJF v. Hobart Saturday night lights game on 9/25.
Maybe you can join us on ITH later this year to discuss the East Region in general?
I'd love to join you guys on ITH.
Does anyone know if that Hobart Fisher game is going to be on TV? I can't wait for that one but I don't think I can make it up that weekend.
Quote from: sjfcards on September 04, 2010, 07:58:58 AM
Does anyone know if that Hobart Fisher game is going to be on TV? I can't wait for that one but I don't think I can make it up that weekend.
Haven't heard but wouldn't be surprised if TW or some local network picked it up.
Great piece on the LVC kicker this week Dew!
Quote from: Upstate on September 28, 2010, 07:52:37 PM
Great piece on the LVC kicker this week Dew!
Gracias. ;D
dlip just loves ATE! Great article this week Dew, what a ride we are on in the east this year.
I wasn't really sure where to post this, since there doesn't seem to be a TCCC board, but Selena Roberts has a nice article/column about Anna Maria's efforts to build their football program on the Point After page of the Oct. 25 Sports Illustrated.
The CCC doesn't play football. Anna Maria plays in the ECFC.
I'm re-awakening the board to introduce our new Around the East writer, Andrew Lovell. His first column will be posted this evening. Andrew is an Ithaca grad, has written for Kickoff and works at ESPN.
I kept looking at the picture of Dom Sair -- really good story, btw, Andrew -- and wondering how he could be related to Stef Sair, who I definitely met a few years ago face to face and does not look like his brother in build, skin tone, etc. ... but how many Sairs could there be?
Anyway, I see the resemblance now, but it took me a while. Also I'm traditionally horrible at seeing the resemblance in anyone.
This is a pretty terrible way of me saying I am enjoying the columns so far this year.
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The Cardinals entered Saturday's game having won 17 consecutive games against colleges in New York State.
Pep will be glad to know that he can continue his Rodney Dangerfield impression even if the Saxons are getting some national exposure!
Hey Pep/Kaz,
How about around the east discussing the teams in the top 25 and also discussing teams not ranked, but receiving votes who's totals changed (Cortland, Fisher), and yet somehow Hobart was not mentioned as joining the ranked teams.
Maybe I should be happy that Hobart's flying totally under the radar with everyone, but I'm feeling like a remake of "back to school" is playing out.
Top 25 glance: Salisbury keeps climbing, Alfred takes a tumble
Only three of the five teams ranked in last week's D3football.com Top 25 poll won this past weekend. The two that lost -- Kean and Alfred -- saw significant falls in the Week 7 poll.
Kean fell from No. 10 to No. 19, while Alfred plummeted from No. 23 to unranked with receiving a single vote.
Montclair State (No. 11 to No. 9), Delaware Valley (No. 14 to No. 13) and Salisbury (No. 18 to No. 14) all saw rises in their rankings. Cortland and Lebanon Valley remained just outside the top 25, while St. John Fisher and Rowan also picked up a few votes.
Quote from: pumkinattack on October 19, 2011, 09:28:16 PM
Hey Pep/Kaz,
How about around the east discussing the teams in the top 25 and also discussing teams not ranked, but receiving votes who's totals changed (Cortland, Fisher), and yet somehow Hobart was not mentioned as joining the ranked teams.
Maybe I should be happy that Hobart's flying totally under the radar with everyone, but I'm feeling like a remake of "back to school" is playing out.
Top 25 glance: Salisbury keeps climbing, Alfred takes a tumble
Only three of the five teams ranked in last week's D3football.com Top 25 poll won this past weekend. The two that lost -- Kean and Alfred -- saw significant falls in the Week 7 poll.
Kean fell from No. 10 to No. 19, while Alfred plummeted from No. 23 to unranked with receiving a single vote.
Montclair State (No. 11 to No. 9), Delaware Valley (No. 14 to No. 13) and Salisbury (No. 18 to No. 14) all saw rises in their rankings. Cortland and Lebanon Valley remained just outside the top 25, while St. John Fisher and Rowan also picked up a few votes.
Pep has been pleased by Lovell's thoroughness in his Around the East column. He's doing a great job. Pep thinks he missed on Hobart's entry into the coveted Top 25, likely overlooked because Hobart didn't have a game on Oct. 15. But no need for Pep to speculate. Pep suggests PA contact Lovell. Any team's entry into the Top 25 should be acknowledged.
Pep has always preferred to have his Saxons flying "under the radar" but after Saterday's debacle, Pep is hereby declaring the Saxons "grounded" until further notice. Pep is thinking AU's quick start was carry-over from a nice 2010 playoff run but as the season wore on, weaknesses were exposed and duly exploited by the competition. Suffice it to say, tomorrow is another day. Pep is hoping his Saxons can regroup, get the wheels back on the bandwagon and get back on the highway.
On Saxon Warriors!
Dude that write up on the Cortland player literally brought dlip to tears. What a great story. With a 3 yr old girl and another girl on the way in 2 Weeks dlip really appreciated that story, thanks A.L.
Hear, hear. Great work in ATE all season. Amazing story that should be picked up by other national sports and newspapers.
Same here. And when I got to Stephens' hometown, I was especially proud. Then I went and posted the link on my FB thread for all my childhood friends to read!
Quote from: AUKaz00 on October 18, 2012, 09:55:08 AM
Same here. And when I got to Stephens' hometown, I was especially proud. Then I went and posted the link on my FB thread for all my childhood friends to read!
Good to know something good comes out of Goshen every once in a great while.... :o
Excellent column, Andrew. That's a great story.