D3 schools are involved in the incredible amount of 83 Tournaments this weekend .... here are some of the interesting ones:
Provident Pride of Maryland Tourney - 8 D3 schools from Maryland representing several conferences - every state should do this!!
Al Van Wie Tourney - Wooster hosts St Thomas, Carnegie Mellon, and Heidelberg
Albion Tourney - Albion Hosts Bluffton, Depauw, and Edgewood
Carthage College Tipoff - Carthage has Aurora, UW Platteville, UW Whitewater
Gettysburg Tourney - Gettysburg has Catholic, Messiah, and Wittenberg
Illinois College Tourney - Illinois College hosts Milwaukee Engr, Nebraska Wesleyan, and Simpson
Scotty Wood - Moravian has Mulenburg, Oneonta, and William Paterson
UD Tipoff - Dallas, Rust, Austin, Sul Ross
Don Glick - Bridgewater hosts Averett East Mennonite, Wesley
Chicago Midway - Chicago has Earlham, Southwestern, Rose Hulman
Lee Pfund - Wheaton hosts McMurry, Ohio Northern, Trine
Titan Classic has IWU, Wash U, Ohio Wesleyan, and J&W
Many others have three decent teams and a podunk, and others have a good championship game with apparent lopsided winners the first night....
some possible good championship games not in the group above
RPI should play MIT at RPI
Scranton vs John Carroll at Scranton
Williams will play LAsell or Cortland State
Widener may play Rowan
North Central could play Mississippi College
Amherst could play Ithaca
Quote from: hopefan on November 19, 2009, 06:17:58 PM
Carthage College Tipoff - Carthage has Aurora, UW Platteville, UW Whitewater
Lee Pfund - Wheaton hosts McMurry, Ohio Northern, Trine
I think these are Classics...
And #10 UWSP is playing at #18 Puget Sound against #16 Whitworth and the hosts along with UC Santa Cruz.
I think we're going to find out a lot about WIAC teams this weekend!
Quote from: PointSpecial on November 19, 2009, 08:21:14 PM
Quote from: hopefan on November 19, 2009, 06:17:58 PM
Carthage College Tipoff - Carthage has Aurora, UW Platteville, UW Whitewater
Lee Pfund - Wheaton hosts McMurry, Ohio Northern, Trine
I think these are Classics...
The Carthage tourney is in a classic format, as it involves two WIAC teams, but the Lee Pfund Classic is a traditional-format tourney, in spite of the fact that it uses the word "classic" in its name.
Gordon has a tourney this weekend where they'll likely play Baruch in the final game. Not the flashiest of match-ups, but it should tell us a lot about both squads.
McMurry (Pre-season #2 in the ASC West) 72 ONU (Pre-season #3 in OAC) 69 (OT)
During the audiocast of Wooster's game vs. Wilmington last night, head coach Steve Moore suggested that Wooster's E.M. "Mose" Hole/Kiwanis Classic was one of if not the longest-running small college tournament. The Mose Hole Classic has been in continuous existence since January 1964 (six years after Coach Hole's retirement), this year's edition being the 48th Classic.
Does anyone know of a longer-running holiday tournament? Even if it's not 48 years old, tell us about your school's long-running tournament.
The Chase Scholarship Tournament involving eight schools from around Rochester, NY has been in existence since 1966-1967. The event was renamed the "Wendy's College Classic" a couple years ago. It used to take place in early January, but it happened during the first semester this season.
http://www.rochester.edu/pr/Review/V70N2/feature1.html
When I played in the late 60's, the highlight of the season was a the Christmas Time tourney at Albany State... the Capital District Tourney.... Featuring the 4 capital district schools Union, RPI, Siena, and Albany State.... it would be a sellout every year, and RPI would always be the underdog, Siena usually the favorite, but wow, talk about pumped up to play!!!! Of course first Siena, and later Albany State moved to D1, and the tourney ended, probably in the early 80's... wonder if Magicman could research its end...??
Quote from: hopefan on December 31, 2010, 06:43:26 AM
When I played in the late 60's, the highlight of the season was a the Christmas Time tourney at Albany State... the Capital District Tourney.... Featuring the 4 capital district schools Union, RPI, Siena, and Albany State.... it would be a sellout every year, and RPI would always be the underdog, Siena usually the favorite, but wow, talk about pumped up to play!!!! Of course first Siena, and later Albany State moved to D1, and the tourney ended, probably in the early 80's... wonder if Magicman could research its end...??
hopefan,
I don't know too much about the Capital District Christmas Tournament as it was not something I ever attended. It also wasn't promoted in the newspapers up in my neck of the woods.
I'll have to talk with my attorney, Joe Cardany, who is probably the best player to ever play at Union. Joe, who graduated in 1981, broke all of Jimmy Tedisco's scoring records and is still #3 on their all time scoring list. If there had been a 3 point shot when Joe played he'd be at the top of the list, as his long range jump shot accounted for a sizeable number of his field goals. He should at least be able to confirm if the tournament made it into the 80's.
good magic, thanks..... I likely just missed Joe Cardany, as my last seaqson coaching was 76-77, and we moved to Michigan in mid 78... will be interested to hear what info he can supply... ask him if Bill Scanlon was still coaching Union when he played?
Quote from: hopefan on December 31, 2010, 01:46:38 PM
good magic, thanks..... I likely just missed Joe Cardany, as my last seaqson coaching was 76-77, and we moved to Michigan in mid 78... will be interested to hear what info he can supply... ask him if Bill Scanlon was still coaching Union when he played?
I know Scanlon was still there as Joe has told me a number of Scanlon stories over the years. Joe had nothing but good things to say about him. As a matter of fact I'm watching Scanlon's assistant when Joe was there, Bill Carmody, now the head coach at Northwestern, on ESPN2 as I type this. Northwestern is on the road taking on #11 Purdue and Carmody's got the Wildcats within 6 pts trying for the upset.
Scanlon and Murphy (Hamilton) took me out one night when the NCAA's were in Philly... there's alot I DON'T remember about that night.. thank goodness... those two were a little more than I could keep up with....
Hopefan,
I've got ECAC bball media guides from 65-69 if your interested in any info when you played(rosters, schedules,coaches, scores,etc.) I remember the coach Billy Kalbaugh from somewhere(St. Bonaventure? player).
Ronk
Billy Kalbaugh was RPI Coach Bill Kalbaugh's son... he was the point guard at St Bonaventure when Bob Lanier was there... one year ahead of me in age, and they were undefeated until the NCAA semis in 1970.... Billy coached for awhile, I believe at Gannon, and now is the National Director of Coaches vs Cancer. HisPop, Bill Kalbaugh, coached in 50's 60's and 70's at RPI-- I played for him and was his assistant for 5 years
Ronk.. thanks for the offer, but you keep that material with what I imagine is a nice collection... if we ever end up at a game together, I'll remind you to bring it.... but if you check out 68-69 and it has RPI stuff, some sophomore named Kirkpatrick averaged about 9 a game coming off the bench as a sixth man!! ;) ;) The old ICAC conference.... Union, Alfred, Hobart, RPI, St.Lawrence, and Clarkson
It says that Kirkpatrick guy weighed 178. :)What are the odds he still under 180? It also says he's from Pittsburgh, which explains why u were asking about Catholic's Pete Shramm from Sewickley. My wife's from Mt. Lebanon and I went to a couple of Dapper Dan games back in those days - 1 that Maurice Lucas played in and one with Magic Johnson.
Almost made it to the Hope-Scranton NCAA semifinal in 2006 but my wife was ill at the time and couldn't make the trip. Maybe they'll meet again 1 of these years.
Ronk... the Dapper Dan... I attended the very first one as a junior in high school... 1966... little guard wowed the world by putting up about 40.... Calvin Murphy... I had THAT program for years, but alas no more.....
178?? now closer to 278 than 178, but I made a New year's resolution.....
Not that I'm not enjoying this trip down your Memory Lanes, but I wonder if there's anyone else out there who would like to tell us about their long-running holiday tournament? Surely Wooster's Mose Hole Classic and Rochester's Wendy's Classic are not the only two tournaments that date back to (or beyond) the early days of D3.
Quote from: hopefan on December 31, 2010, 06:43:26 AM
When I played in the late 60's, the highlight of the season was a the Christmas Time tourney at Albany State... the Capital District Tourney.... Featuring the 4 capital district schools Union, RPI, Siena, and Albany State.... it would be a sellout every year, and RPI would always be the underdog, Siena usually the favorite, but wow, talk about pumped up to play!!!! Of course first Siena, and later Albany State moved to D1, and the tourney ended, probably in the early 80's... wonder if Magicman could research its end...??
hopefan,
I spoke to Joe Cardany, former Union great, about the Christmas tournament in Albany. He said that they continued to hold it into the early to mid 80's but Siena stopped playing in the mid 70's. I believe the last year Siena played was Christmas of 1976, because the Albany-Siena rivalry ended on February 3 1977. After a long hiatus Siena and Albany renewed their rivalry once again in 2001 as Albany had moved up to D1 by then. Joe played at Union from the fall of 1977 until the spring of 1981 and Siena was never in the tournament during his 4 years there. They would have a scrimmage against Siena in pre-season but the Saints were no longer interested in playing a D3 team during the regular season. (Afraid of losing ;D) The tournament when Joe played was Union, RPI, Albany State and a guest 4th team from around the NY-Vermont region that was always different each year. It may have ended when Albany went D2, or possibly a few years before that. Not sure exactly what year that was, but I believe their last year in the SUNYAC was 1986-1987. That's the last time I could find any record of them in the SUNYAC playoff archives and if Albany was in the SUNYAC, you could pretty much count on them being in the playoffs. The Great Danes' coach, "Doc" Sauers, rarely had a losing season on his way to 702-330 collegiate coaching record. Anyway that's the best I can come up with.
Thanks again Magic..... I must have gotten so involved with Hope basketball in the early 80's that I didn't realize Siena got out.... Doc Sauers, and his long time assistant Bob Lewis (I think Bob) were good friends with Bill Kalbaugh and always treated me well... both were great guys.....