Almost that time of year again. Can you feel it?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vUwlRWb96bw
Quote from: 1837Tigers on September 30, 2010, 01:27:56 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vUwlRWb96bw
Too bad the announcer butchered the pronunciation of both "Monon" and "Wabash."
I have no flippin' idea why everyone mispronounces Wabash.
Open to the 1993 Bell telecast:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dJaXxeKE814
Tigers off to best start since 1985.
http://www.depauw.edu/ath/news.asp?id=25901
Quote from: Breckenridgebear on October 05, 2010, 12:18:09 PM
Tigers off to best start since 1985....
Bell result from 1985? I know the answer...but you'll get more out of it if you go look it up yourself. :)
Quote from: wally_wabash on October 05, 2010, 12:31:35 PM
Quote from: Breckenridgebear on October 05, 2010, 12:18:09 PM
Tigers off to best start since 1985....
Bell result from 1985? I know the answer...but you'll get more out of it if you go look it up yourself. :)
Not of my favorite Monon memories to relive.
It's awfully early to start dreaming about DePauw showing up in Crawfordsville 9-0, particularly since there's a trip to a place they've never won still on the schedule, but a fella can always hope, can't he?
110 years ago today...
http://www.depauw.edu/news/?id=21961
Saw Wabash allotment of tickets are already on sale. Any idea when DPUs will go on sale ? They usually happen at the same time.
B'Bear, are you coming to the game this year ? With an RV ? I can save you a spot.
Big: Monon Bell game.
Bigger: Monon Bell game with playoff implications.
Huge: Two 9-0 teams in the Monon Bell game.
Big McLarge Huge: Two 9-0 teams in the Monon Bell game playing for the NCAC title.
Thank goodness the latter can happen soon!
Fripp52. We will be there as always, with the vehicle of liability (V.O.L.), early Friday.
Just got off the phone with Donna at Depauw Athletic department. Tickets go on sale Oct. 25th. You can get them by calling (toll free) 800-446-5295 or 765-658-4934.
Can't wait for Depauw to wax some wally.
2010 Monon Bell Classic DVD Available for Pre-Order:
http://www.depauw.edu/news/index.asp?id=25785
On This Day in 1912:
http://www.depauw.edu/news/index.asp?id=21769
Sportscaster Art Kimball (DePauw '55) has passed away. Here's the open to the 1985 Bell telecast, with Art on play-by-play:
http://www.youtube.com/user/KayO6145#p/search/1/GU2zRD4YGGQ
Paul Maguire will be doing the color commentary.
http://media.www.thedepauw.com/media/storage/paper912/news/2010/10/12/News/Former.Espn.Announcer.To.Cover.Monon-3943779.shtml?reffeature=htmlemailedition
Quote from: Breckenridgebear on October 12, 2010, 11:01:33 AM
Paul Maguire will be doing the color commentary.
The same Paul Maguire that ABC/ESPN exiled to a cherry picker on the sideline a few years ago because he's terrible?
Did you major in Negativity as an undergrad? I mean, really, have you broadcast 4 Super Bowls?
It'd be nice to welcome this new friend to our rivalry, not demean him. I think it's terrific.
I think this game is presented best with an apt play by play announcer and a color analyst that is familiar with the teams and players.
I'm sure there was a time when Maguire was good at this job, but it's been a long while. He was a healthy contributor to the single most unwatchable booth I've ever seen do football on television (the abhorrent Patrick/Theismann/Maguire booth on Sunday night ESPN games). There's a reason Maguire isn't doing color work for ESPN/ABC anymore and I'm pretty sure it isn't because he chose to be calling UFL games on HDNet. That is not a professional move indictative of somebody who is on his game.
He's 72 yrs old, chief. As someone who used to work in the TV biz, I can tell you your options these days are slim post-60 (even, in my case, post-40). So don't begrudge his willingness to keep working.
QuotePaul Maguire will be doing the color commentary.
That will be great...will add some flavor to the broadcast...
On this day, 99 years ago:
http://www.depauw.edu/news/index.asp?id=21785
Quote from: 1837Tigers on October 12, 2010, 02:04:29 PM
He's 72 yrs old, chief. As someone who used to work in the TV biz, I can tell you your options these days are slim post-60 (even, in my case, post-40). So don't begrudge his willingness to keep working.
You missed my point completely. My reservation has nothing to do with the man's age or whether or not he wants to keep working in the business. My reservation is about the quality of his product...which hasn't been very good for quite some time now.
Sure, he's got a recognizable name and he's done some really big time work in the past, but it's a lot like the Rams getting Joe Namath. Sure, he's Joe Namath...but he's not
Joe Namath anymore.
dumb question from an outside fan: prior to last season, was Wabash and DePauw ever in the same conference? It seems odd that two long-time rival teams were from two different conferences all these years.
Quote from: 02 Warhawk on October 13, 2010, 03:57:09 PM
dumb question from an outside fan: prior to last season, was Wabash and DePauw ever in the same conference? It seems odd that two long-time rival teams were from two different conferences all these years.
Excellent question. Wabash and DePauw were charter members of the Indiana Collegiate Athletic Conference back in 1987. The two were conference rivals for 12 years until DePauw left the ICAC for the SCAC in 1999 for reasons that only Bob Bottoms fully understand.
As I'm sure you've read, DePauw will be joining Wabash in the NCAC next year, with football affiliation coming the following year in 2012...which is a terrific move for all parties involved.
Quote from: wally_wabash on October 13, 2010, 04:08:44 PM
Quote from: 02 Warhawk on October 13, 2010, 03:57:09 PM
dumb question from an outside fan: prior to last season, was Wabash and DePauw ever in the same conference? It seems odd that two long-time rival teams were from two different conferences all these years.
Excellent question. Wabash and DePauw were charter members of the Indiana Collegiate Athletic Conference back in 1987. The two were conference rivals for 12 years until DePauw left the ICAC for the SCAC in 1999 for reasons that only Bob Bottoms fully understand.
As I'm sure you've read, DePauw will be joining Wabash in the NCAC next year, with football affiliation coming the following year in 2012...which is a terrific move for all parties involved.
what about prior to 1987?
Does the Monon railroad connect the two schools?
Quote from: 02 Warhawk on October 13, 2010, 04:14:21 PM
Quote from: wally_wabash on October 13, 2010, 04:08:44 PM
Quote from: 02 Warhawk on October 13, 2010, 03:57:09 PM
dumb question from an outside fan: prior to last season, was Wabash and DePauw ever in the same conference? It seems odd that two long-time rival teams were from two different conferences all these years.
Excellent question. Wabash and DePauw were charter members of the Indiana Collegiate Athletic Conference back in 1987. The two were conference rivals for 12 years until DePauw left the ICAC for the SCAC in 1999 for reasons that only Bob Bottoms fully understand.
As I'm sure you've read, DePauw will be joining Wabash in the NCAC next year, with football affiliation coming the following year in 2012...which is a terrific move for all parties involved.
what about prior to 1987?
Does the Monon railroad connect the two schools?
I can't speak for DePauw, but prior to the ICAC, I don't believe Wabash was affiliated with a conference.
And yes, the Monon RR serviced both colleges back in the day.
Legendary broadcaster Art Kimball (DePauw '55), who was known primarily across the state of Illinois, passed away this week. Today someone sent this link to me of Art broadcasting the 1985 Monon Bell game...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GU2zRD4YGGQ&feature=player_embedded#!
Thought you might enjoy the old footage.
Below are a couple articles written this week about Art...
http://www.pantagraph.com/sports/columnists/kindred/article_a4886a4a-d67a-11df-ad25-001cc4c002e0.html
http://www.pantagraph.com/news/local/article_4a7f3740-d576-11df-adb7-001cc4c03286.html
Thanks for sending TitanQ...great monon Bell clip...
RIP to a person I have never met nor really heard about...but who sounds like he was a special guy...really enjoyed reading the article you sent...great description of the guy...
QuoteForget the shaggy-haired bands in leather pants. The soundtrack of Central Illinois sports was provided by a balding, 40-something man with a mustache, headset and the pipes of an ocean liner.
Quote from: wally_wabash on October 13, 2010, 04:30:48 PM
Quote from: 02 Warhawk on October 13, 2010, 04:14:21 PM
Quote from: wally_wabash on October 13, 2010, 04:08:44 PM
Quote from: 02 Warhawk on October 13, 2010, 03:57:09 PM
dumb question from an outside fan: prior to last season, was Wabash and DePauw ever in the same conference? It seems odd that two long-time rival teams were from two different conferences all these years.
Excellent question. Wabash and DePauw were charter members of the Indiana Collegiate Athletic Conference back in 1987. The two were conference rivals for 12 years until DePauw left the ICAC for the SCAC in 1999 for reasons that only Bob Bottoms fully understand.
As I'm sure you've read, DePauw will be joining Wabash in the NCAC next year, with football affiliation coming the following year in 2012...which is a terrific move for all parties involved.
what about prior to 1987?
Does the Monon railroad connect the two schools?
I can't speak for DePauw, but prior to the ICAC, I don't believe Wabash was affiliated with a conference.
And yes, the Monon RR serviced both colleges back in the day.
Back in the 60s, DePauw was in a conference w/ Indiana State, Butler, Evansville and, Ball State, among others -- which had much to do w/ some of the sub-500 records posted during that era.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Indiana_Collegiate_Conference
Just bought my flight for the game.
I feel like a kid on Christmas morning.
25 Years Ago Today - "Ballad of the Monon Bell" recorded in Nashville:
http://www.depauw.edu/news/index.asp?id=23724
On This Day in 1943--
http://www.depauw.edu/news/index.asp?id=19445
Monon Bell Classic a "Can't Miss" Rivalry Game, Declares Newspaper
http://www.depauw.edu/news/?id=25982
On This Day in 1895:
http://www.depauw.edu/news/index.asp?id=21979
October 20, 1894:
http://www.depauw.edu/news/index.asp?id=21998
October 20, 1913:
http://www.depauw.edu/news/index.asp?id=21714
Quote from: 1837Tigers on October 19, 2010, 09:18:16 AM
On This Day in 1895:
http://www.depauw.edu/news/index.asp?id=21979
Wabash called their field "Philistine Field" back in the day ??
EDIT: I went to Google to try and find more info - in the very short time between posting this and looking it up, Google's spiders had already crawled and cross referenced *this* post. I don't know whether to be impressed or frightened at that level of efficiency!
Hey Ron,
That was indeed the name, per Jim Amidon. It should be noted that I made the clip 2 yrs ago, so Google had some time to do its thing...
Ken
On This Day in 1944:
http://www.depauw.edu/news/index.asp?id=20463
Quote from: 1837Tigers on October 20, 2010, 09:10:40 AM
October 20, 1894:
http://www.depauw.edu/news/index.asp?id=21998
October 20, 1913:
http://www.depauw.edu/news/index.asp?id=21714
Hey Ken, is that East College in the background in the 1894 game?
It is East College, but if you listen/watch closely you'll note that I don't reference it as a game photo -- the earliest known image we have from a DP-WA game is 1907. The first bunch of MMs were creative writing exercises!
Quote from: 1837Tigers on October 21, 2010, 03:52:29 PM
It is East College, but if you listen/watch closely you'll note that I don't reference it as a game photo -- the earliest known image we have from a DP-WA game is 1907. The first bunch of MMs were creative writing exercises!
Well played, sir. Creative indeed. And thanks again for your effort in compiling the series! Will we see you in the visitor's lot this year?
BRBEAR, my ticket is purchased and ol' Bill should be buffing the wax on V.O.L. right about now. I've instructed him to change the brake lights from red to gold.
http://www.depauw.edu/news/index.asp?id=26023
http://content.usatoday.com/communities/campusrivalry/post/2010/10/the-weekend-by-the-numbers-baylor-reaches-a-new-level/1
Danny Boy, my ticket is purchased, and my flight is booked.
I also want to make sure that we get two coats of wax this time. Not just one.
October 25, 1910:
http://www.depauw.edu/news/index.asp?id=21794
Danny, I'll be all over the place on game day-- see you then!
The Depauw website is reporting that only "1,700 Monon Bell Tickets Remain." It sounds like we might sell out our allotment before the end of the week.
I wonder if the cave boyzz will be returning some tickets this year. ;)
Who would Wabash be returning tickets to for a game that Wabash is hosting?
October 31, 1896:
http://www.depauw.edu/news/index.asp?id=21969
Does anyone have the total number of tickets released for the Bell this year?
I thought I read 4000 released to DPU. I can't find it now. Maybe it was in the DePauw paper I read this weekend. I think DPU usually keeps several 100 back for VIPs. So maybe each school had 5000. As of yesterday, 800 remain. That surprises me. Usually DPU sells out in a week or less.
Actually, since W added another extra section of seats to the visitors side about 4 years ago, DP has not sold out its share of tix (the game is a sellout every year its in Greencastle). I believe that will change this time, as it appears all the DP tickets will be gone by game time.
Quote from: Fripp52 on November 02, 2010, 07:57:30 AM
So maybe each school had 5000.
I'll bet you a sixer of your favorite domestic macrobrew that the ticket ratio is not 50/50.
Quote from: wally_wabash on November 02, 2010, 01:39:02 PM
Quote from: Fripp52 on November 02, 2010, 07:57:30 AM
So maybe each school had 5000.
I'll bet you a sixer of your favorite domestic macrobrew that the ticket ratio is not 50/50.
Definitely isn't at Hollett. That big huge bleacher in the end zone HAS to give Wabash more seats than DePauw. There's no way around it. I'd guess it's flipped the other way at Blackstock for the same reason, but I'm not quite as certain about that. Feels like there's an awful lot of Wabash red on that side every year....
Quote from: Danny Boy on October 25, 2010, 09:36:06 AM
I've instructed him to change the brake lights from red to gold.
Which I suspect will result in one of a handful of rear-endings you'll receive that weekend.
Way to keep it classy gobash.
Depauw website is posting only 550 Monon tickets left.
Wes, You probably notice the excess of red because every Wabash man, student or alumnus would go the game if he was breathing and could get a ticket. Now DePauw, some of their students must have a limited attention span or limited tolerance for football, particularly those of the female species, and leave apparently having other fish to fry. I could be charitable and assume they're heading for the varsity library, but I rather suspect that many regret not going to Indianoplace to check the shops on such a nice fall weekend. Is there a Nordstom's there yet?
November 4, 1907:
http://www.depauw.edu/news/index.asp?id=21834
Quote from: Breckenridgebear on November 03, 2010, 07:07:16 PM
Way to keep it classy gobash.
Depauw website is posting only 550 Monon tickets left.
Yeah, sorry for taking the wind out of your sails by beating you to the first gay joke. Seemed like the easiest way to defuse your explosive sense of humor. Now I guess you'll have to switch to your comedy gold back-up of "DaBash".
Quote from: gobash on November 04, 2010, 09:47:21 AM
Now I guess you'll have to switch to your comedy gold back-up of "DaBash".
Ah yes...that old chestnut. I can't wait.
Quote from: Wes Anderson on November 02, 2010, 01:43:05 PM
Definitely isn't at Hollett. That big huge bleacher in the end zone HAS to give Wabash more seats than DePauw. There's no way around it. I'd guess it's flipped the other way at Blackstock for the same reason, but I'm not quite as certain about that. Feels like there's an awful lot of Wabash red on that side every year....
The ticket spread isn't 50/50 at either location. These aren't neutral site games. I wouldn't be surprised if Wabash has a larger home crowd advantage in even numbered years than DPU does when they host...because Wabash stopped capping the attendance at around 8,000 about 8 years ago. DPU still prefers to keep attendance limited, which means less access for everybody. Reason #342 why Bell games are better at the Hollett.
Quote from: gobash on November 03, 2010, 04:54:14 PM
Quote from: Danny Boy on October 25, 2010, 09:36:06 AM
I've instructed him to change the brake lights from red to gold.
Which I suspect will result in one of a handful of rear-endings you'll receive that weekend.
gobash, it's been awhile; welcome to the party! You just now getting here or did it take a week to think of that zinger? As long as no DPU men get abducted by Wabash frats, we will keep our butt cherries. Will the Wallies have enough steam to play for the Bell after Wittenberg hands you another loss this weekend?
Serious question for all -- Will Monon still be "the last game every fall" when DePauw joins the NCAC? I can't seem to find the answer.
Looking forward to the game. And God Bless Jimmy Ibbotson.
Quote from: wab64 on November 03, 2010, 11:04:08 PM
Wes, You probably notice the excess of red because every Wabash man, student or alumnus would go the game if he was breathing and could get a ticket. Now DePauw, some of their students must have a limited attention span or limited tolerance for football, particularly those of the female species, and leave apparently having other fish to fry. I could be charitable and assume they're heading for the varsity library, but I rather suspect that many regret not going to Indianoplace to check the shops on such a nice fall weekend. Is there a Nordstom's there yet?
This quote sums up "DABASH" perfectly.
The only reason every Dabash boy would not make the game is because, they cant afford the $16 dollar ticket because a technical college degree from DaBash was only good enough for a job at Carl Jr's, they are incredibly lazy and can't get off the couch to make the trip from any of the small towns in that black hole of banality called Indiana, because a trip to Crawfordsburg is so far and the 85' Camero is on the fritz, or going to the game would be a public display of a Cave Boy failing to find an appropriate life partner to fit in with the other boyzzz.
Depauw's limited attention span could be the result of many different things. Either the fans have tired of watching the subpar product Dabash has pulled together; they have better things to do than watch Depauw thump Dabash 36-14, 21-7, or 42-7; they want to get out of town before dark due to the criminal element for which Crawfordsburg is known; or, after staring across the field at a sea of boyzz in red, they have left to feel the embrace of what you have so eloquently termed the "female species" in order to reinforce that they are winners.
I would like to point out that you are correct that Depauw Men and Women do frequently attend the Library to study. Education is number one, and the point of attending such a fine University as Depauw. Ask your bosses, bosses, boss, she most likely graduated from Depauw.
Good to see you Danny Boy. Can't wait to see you in a week.
Quote from: Danny Boy on November 04, 2010, 12:21:41 PM
Serious question for all -- Will Monon still be "the last game every fall" when DePauw joins the NCAC? I can't seem to find the answer.
I do believe that this tradition will continue. If the two schools and two conferences could find a way to make it work, it should be an even easier arrangement now that there's only one conference involved. It isn't a big stretch to believe that one or both of these teams will be playing the final week of the season with some postseason implications at stake quite often. The conference has a chance to showcase itself and two of their best teams to a national audience playing in sudden death scenarios? That's freaking gold (but not Old Gold!).
http://www.wabash.edu/sports/docs/ReleaseNov32010.pdf
Dabash better hurry, fewer than 3,000 tickets remain!!!
On This Day in 1892...
http://www.depauw.edu/news/index.asp?id=22043
Vote for Coach of the year Robby Long
http://www.coachoftheyear.com
http://www.depauw.edu/news/index.asp?id=26081
Online sale of tickets has ended.
Nice pieces about Kimball. I am also struck by how young Jim Amidon looks in that video. Of course, at that time he was a junior at Wabash - probably only 20 or 21 years old. In those days, ALL of us looked a lot younger. ;D
Gotta run - making low country boil tonight to bring to the tailgater at Jordan-Hare tomorrow. As long as Cam stays eligible, the Tigers have a shot at making the big show in AZ in January. SEC football ranks right up there with DPU/WabCo matchups, only it happens every week!
Quote from: Titan Q on October 13, 2010, 07:59:58 PM
Legendary broadcaster Art Kimball (DePauw '55), who was known primarily across the state of Illinois, passed away this week. Today someone sent this link to me of Art broadcasting the 1985 Monon Bell game...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GU2zRD4YGGQ&feature=player_embedded#!
Thought you might enjoy the old footage.
Below are a couple articles written this week about Art...
http://www.pantagraph.com/sports/columnists/kindred/article_a4886a4a-d67a-11df-ad25-001cc4c002e0.html
http://www.pantagraph.com/news/local/article_4a7f3740-d576-11df-adb7-001cc4c03286.html
November 7, 1970/ 40 years ago today:
http://www.depauw.edu/news/index.asp?id=13700
Quote from: Breckenridgebear on November 04, 2010, 01:03:36 PM
The only reason every Dabash boy would not make the game is because, they cant afford the $16 dollar ticket because a technical college degree from DaBash was only good enough for a job at Carl Jr's.
Fair enough...we can't all work for our daddy's law firms or live off of trust funds.
Here's a few initial thoughts on this football game from your old pal Wes:
1. DePauw hasn't played a good football team yet. 9-0 sure is pretty cool, but they haven't been tested like they will be on Saturday. On the other hand, Wabash has played exactly one good football team. That did not go well. I don't know what that leaves us with, but worth noting either way.
2. I think I'm comfortable with saying that DePauw is probably a better football team than Wabash, but we all know that doesn't mean a darned thing. 1981 and 2007 are the two examples that came to me off the top of my head.
3. Michael Engle has thrown 10 interceptions, but for some reason it feels like a lot more than that. Seems they're all deep in DePauw's end or in the red zone. That has to stop. There aren't very many hard throws in this system. Stop throwing it to the guys in the other color, particularly when you're deep in your own end.
4. What about the DePauw defense? Good or not? Bend but don't break? Already broken? I just don't know. Trinity is the only team that has had success moving the ball in big chunks this season. Caleb Urban was all over the field - 5 catches for 119 & 2 TDs. Wabash exposed the DePauw defense (and then some) in the second half of last year's game. I've already been on record with some harsh words towards that group for that disaster. That effort was on par with the first half in 2002 when covering Ryan Short was optional. Gotta have it on Saturday, fellas.
5. DePauw needs to work on punt protect every single day this week. Has anybody actually successfully executed a punt against the LGs this year? Yikes. No blocked kicks on Saturday, please.
Quote from: Wes Anderson on November 07, 2010, 02:15:06 PM
5. DePauw needs to work on punt protect every single day this week. Has anybody actually successfully executed a punt against the LGs this year? Yikes. No blocked kicks on Saturday, please.
Wooster and WUStl managed to get through a full four quarters without having a punt blocked. Everybody else on the schedule had at least one punt blocked. That unit has been exceptional this year for Wabash.
I am taking the over. Big time. Shootout, here we come...
Quote from: wally_wabash on November 07, 2010, 05:03:55 PM
Quote from: Wes Anderson on November 07, 2010, 02:15:06 PM
5. DePauw needs to work on punt protect every single day this week. Has anybody actually successfully executed a punt against the LGs this year? Yikes. No blocked kicks on Saturday, please.
Wooster and WUStl managed to get through a full four quarters without having a punt blocked. Everybody else on the schedule had at least one punt blocked. That unit has been exceptional this year for Wabash.
I think special teams are a concern for me all the way around. DePauw has had some issues with their FG/PAT unit, both with blocking and with actually making the kick itself. Malm is under 50% on FGs. He drained a 47 yarder, but he's 5-12 from outside of 30 yards. Something to keep an eye on for sure.
I'm also in the "bet the over" crowd, but it will be interesting to see how Robby handles late & close if it comes to that, partly because of the issues with Malm and partly because he's capable of doing just about anything.
My bad gobash, I must have been blinded by a flash from my huge silver spoon. Thank you for clearing that up for me! Now I must get back to spending my rather significant "trust fund".
This Day in Monon History, November 8:
1919- http://www.depauw.edu/news/index.asp?id=21449
1980- http://www.depauw.edu/news/index.asp?id=13705
1986- http://www.depauw.edu/news/index.asp?id=13881
I knew that 1986 game was coming today. Ugh. Didn't see Coach Nick go all Herm Edwards with the clock running out very often, but that was one case where it happened.
Long before the cannonball travelled through her towns
The state of Indiana owned the jewel of the crown
The train, they called the Monon, the stories they still tell
The Cavemen and the Tigers playing for her bell
It rode like a masthead on engine ninety-nine
Crawfordsville to Greencastle, then further down the line
The Cavemen came from Wabash, the Tigers from DePauw
Since eighteen-ninety they have played the last game ev'ry fall
Many years they played for pride, oh the stories they could tell
Then in thirty-two the Monon train gave up her precious bell
They said, "Here take this symbol of smoke and fire and grit
And give it to the winner, a symbol not to quit."
Ring the Bell for Wabash, ring for old DePauw
Ring the bell for victory in the last game ev'ry fall
Ring the Bell for Wabash, ring for old DePauw
Ring the bell for victory in the last game ev'ry fall
Suddenly the boys of autumn had fire in their eyes
Blood and spit, but never quit, fighting for the prize
The medal to the victor, the symbol to the school
Wabash and DePauw became a yearly duel
Ring the Bell for Wabash, ring for old DePauw
Ring the bell for victory in the last game ev'ry fall
Ring the Bell for Wabash, ring for old DePauw
Ring the bell for victory in the last game ev'ry fall
Now history has recorded the players and their games
And to this day they still play for the Bell in Monon's name
Those who've gone before return each November day
Swapping stories and the legends for those who did not play
Ring the Bell for Wabash, ring for old DePauw
Ring the bell for victory in the last game ev'ry fall
Ring the Bell for Wabash, ring for old DePauw
Ring the bell for victory in the last game ev'ry fall
Always a long week, especially for a 4 day workweek! Hey Fripp, you here? What time are you arriving at the lot?
Depauw Gentlemen, Fans, Alumni, and Friends,
Long before the cannonball travelled through her towns, the state of Indiana owned the jewel of the crown, the train, they called the Monon, the stories they still tell, the Cavemen and the Tigers playing for her bell.
Wow. Although Monon Week did officially started Saturday November 6, 2010, it is time to take note of the importance of this week and the importance of this game. This is Depauw's final season in the SCAC, as next year they will join Dabash and friends in the NCAC. Having secured a playoff game, Depauw has everything to lose, while Dabash has nothing to lose, as this is their last game of the season.
It rode like a masthead on engine ninety-nine
Crawfordsville to Greencastle, then further down the line
The Cavemen came from Wabash, the Tigers from DePauw
Since eighteen-ninety they have played the last game ev'ry fall
As you know, no matter what the records, only one game counts every year. In preparation for the week, I would like you all to remember a few things. Remember this game is for those great teams who have played on the sacred field at Blackstock and have battled the Boyzz of Dabash at Hollett. Such as that legendary Depauw team, who on November, 22, 1890 started the Monon tradition with an ass-kicking of Wabash, beating the Wally's 34-5 in Crawfordsville; that team in 1892 who slapped Dabash with a 42-4 shellacking; or that 1973 team who rushed against Wabash for 80 plays to win the game 28-21; or, the team who played from 1997-2000, winning 4 Monon Bells, outscoring Dabash 104-38 over the stretch, including a 42-7 stomping in 1998; or, the 1914 team who in the middle of a snowstorm, wins 3-0, with a dropkick by the fullback; or when in 1920 when DePauw quarterback "Galloping" Galloway booted a 52-yard drop kick with three minutes left to give DePauw a 3-0 win at Indianapolis' Washington Park; those teams from 1955 through 1964 who did not lose to the Cavemen; and let us never forget that class of 1933 who under legendary Raymond "Gaumey" Neal went on to a 7-0 record having not lost, tied, or been scored upon during the whole season, a feat which can never be replicated.
Many years they played for pride, oh the stories they could tell
Then in thirty-two the Monon train gave up her precious bell
They said, "Here take this symbol of smoke and fire and grit
And give it to the winner, a symbol not to quit."
Let us remember this game for its historic players who have had so much success wearing the Black and Gold. Players like Bart Simpson, who from 1971-1974 rushed for 2941 yards; or, Spud Dick, who passed for 9312 yards from 2006 through 2009; or Dan Ryan, who had three receptions for touchdowns in 4 different games between 2001-2002; or what about, Alan Hill with four interceptions for 159 yards against St Norbert on September 5, 1981; or, when trailing 21-13, the Tigers tied the contest with 3:37 left on a touchdown and two-point conversion before backup kicker Jordan Havercamp won the game with a 47-yard field goal as time expired, the field goal was his first attempt of the season, cementing him a living legend; Jeremiah Marks, who between 2004 and 2007 rushed for 3869 yards, including a 2007 Monon Bell game in which he attempted 45 carries, and a game in which he scored 5 touchdowns against Colorado College; Dustin Hertel, who totaled 37 sacks during his career; Jamie Cunha who in 1996 against Dabash had 3 Touchdown receptions; or who can forget, Tyler Kelley, who only had 71 receptions during his career from 1996-1999, but looked damn sexy while he was doing it. Let us never forget those graduating classes of 1893, 1963, 9164, 1990, 1999, and 2000 which NEVER lost a Bell game to dabash. These men had hatred for those caveboyzz from Crawfordsville. These are the men who the game is played for today. .
Ring the Bell for Wabash, ring for old DePauw
Ring the bell for victory in the last game ev'ry fall
Ring the Bell for Wabash, ring for old DePauw
Ring the bell for victory in the last game ev'ry fall
Let us remember the shame that has fallen upon those classes who have lost to an all male college, those teams who have not shown their faces since losing to the caveboyzz. Personally, I don't know how I would feel if I ever lost to Dabash.
Suddenly the boys of autumn had fire in their eyes
Blood and spit, but never quit, fighting for the prize
The medal to the victor, the symbol to the school
Wabash and DePauw became a yearly duel
Dabash. A College of only men governed by the "Gentleman's Rule". A Rule scrutinized for it lack of control over the heathens of Dabash. An all male (i.e. Boyzz) college where a student's only interaction with a female (during four years of college) is when they hug their mother, see their sister during a break from college, or when they speak to the clerk at the local Kroger or Carl Jr's. Remember these boyzz of Dabash are not men (we all know what it was like to be a man in college, these boyzz never get to experience that in college), they are weak humans scared of the fairer sex. This segregation from women does not make these "men" better, but puts them at a disadvantage. Not only are they socially awkward, but they grow up wondering why they have problems conceiving children, what a date is and how to go on a date, and how to treat a women with respect that they deserve. You must ask yourself, "What kind of world would we live in if Dabash was the norm?". I will tell you it is not a world I want to live in.
Ring the Bell for Wabash, ring for old DePauw
Ring the bell for victory in the last game ev'ry fall
Ring the Bell for Wabash, ring for old DePauw
Ring the bell for victory in the last game ev'ry fall
Not only is DePauw's winning necessary to complete a perfect season, but a win for Depauw is a win for the way of life for all men at co-ed Universities. A win for Depauw is a win for all men, not boyzz, in the world. A win for Depauw is a win for those who enjoy fraternity parties with women and beer in abundance, not just a Saturday night with the guys playing tummy-sticks. A win for Depauw is a win for all man who has hooked up with two, three, or even more women in one night/weekend. A win for Depauw is a win for every man who has told a woman he loves her just so he could get a little nookie. A win for Depauw is a win for ever man who has not worn a condom, because without a condom, it feels better.
Now history has recorded the players and their games
And to this day they still play for the Bell in Monon's name
Those who've gone before return each November day
Swapping stories and the legends for those who did not play
For some of you, I do not need to explain the importance of Monon Week. This is that time of year when you are allowed to eat only bloody, read meat for three meals a day and wash it down with ice cold domestic beer. This is the week where you get to fight random strangers for "bad eyeing" you, or merely for the fact that you didn't like the Crimson and Red in their tie, or that they drive a red car. This is the week where showering with soap is purely optional. This is the week where any conversations with others must either concern, 1) discussions about football, beer, women, meat, or fighting; 2) a comparison of Michael Engle, Spud Dick, Bernie Haskins, and Jason Lee; or 3) your hatred for the color red. This is the week where human life becomes cheap, and only those who deserve it are allowed to survive.
Ring the Bell for Wabash, ring for old DePauw
Ring the bell for victory in the last game ev'ry fall
Ring the Bell for Wabash, ring for old DePauw
Ring the bell for victory in the last game ev'ry fall
Ding MotherF**king Dong, Welcome to Monon week!!!
I will see you this weekend. Come by V.O.L., I will buy you a drink.
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Danny Boy, I am here. I am waiting for Wabash's SID to post the details on where we are tailgating. I sent him an email last week and he responded that he was working on it and that he would email me today when it is posted. So far, nothing. I don't know if anybody else has any details yet. I assume we will be in the Fine Arts lot again, but nothing confirmed.
We will arrive with the RV at 2ish on Friday, assuming we can get into the lot. All I was planning on doing was parking the RV, dropping off the stuff, and leaving. Let me know when you arrive. I would love to have a cocktail with you and DaBear.
We will return on Saturday around 8 and we have breakfast ready at 9. We will have about 70 plus there. I just got a cancellation due to York HS girl's volleyball being in the IHSA finals. So, I have at least 7 extra tickets if you need any (or anyone else). Post on here or email me at jwrona@earthlink.net.
Quote from: Fripp52 on November 08, 2010, 04:19:22 PM
Danny Boy, I am here. I am waiting for Wabash's SID to post the details on where we are tailgating. I sent him an email last week and he responded that he was working on it and that he would email me today when it is posted. So far, nothing. I don't know if anybody else has any details yet. I assume we will be in the Fine Arts lot again, but nothing confirmed.
We will arrive with the RV at 2ish on Friday, assuming we can get into the lot. All I was planning on doing was parking the RV, dropping off the stuff, and leaving. Let me know when you arrive. I would love to have a cocktail with you and DaBear.
We will return on Saturday around 8 and we have breakfast ready at 9. We will have about 70 plus there. I just got a cancellation due to York HS girl's volleyball being in the IHSA finals. So, I have at least 7 extra tickets if you need any (or anyone else). Post on here or email me at jwrona@earthlink.net.
Fripp,
Glad to see you have a large crew coming up with you again, we should be pulling into CrawfordVILE around 6 Friday night.
I just got off the phone with Wabash Security. After providing them a warning that were will be in town next weekend, I was told that R.V. parking for Depauw will be in the fine arts center lot on Grant Street. He said that there should be "no problem" with us parking there Friday night.
Stop by and we will have a drink. We are easy to find.
Quote from: Wes Anderson on November 08, 2010, 11:30:09 AM
I knew that 1986 game was coming today. Ugh. Didn't see Coach Nick go all Herm Edwards with the clock running out very often, but that was one case where it happened.
HELLO! You play to win the game! You don't play it just to play it...
Quote from: Breckenridgebear on November 08, 2010, 05:16:37 PM
Quote from: Fripp52 on November 08, 2010, 04:19:22 PM
Danny Boy, I am here. I am waiting for Wabash's SID to post the details on where we are tailgating. I sent him an email last week and he responded that he was working on it and that he would email me today when it is posted. So far, nothing. I don't know if anybody else has any details yet. I assume we will be in the Fine Arts lot again, but nothing confirmed.
We will arrive with the RV at 2ish on Friday, assuming we can get into the lot. All I was planning on doing was parking the RV, dropping off the stuff, and leaving. Let me know when you arrive. I would love to have a cocktail with you and DaBear.
We will return on Saturday around 8 and we have breakfast ready at 9. We will have about 70 plus there. I just got a cancellation due to York HS girl's volleyball being in the IHSA finals. So, I have at least 7 extra tickets if you need any (or anyone else). Post on here or email me at jwrona@earthlink.net.
Fripp,
Glad to see you have a large crew coming up with you again, we should be pulling into CrawfordVILE around 6 Friday night.
I just got off the phone with Wabash Security. After providing them a warning that were will be in town next weekend, I was told that R.V. parking for Depauw will be in the fine arts center lot on Grant Street. He said that there should be "no problem" with us parking there Friday night.
Stop by and we will have a drink. We are easy to find.
I'm hoping for closer to a 5 pm C'VILE arrival. According to area lore, it is around that time when Wabash fraternities are post-coital and least aggressive (daily pledge "orientation"). All kidding aside, Purdue hosts Michigan this Saturday so we're hoping to get through the middle early enough to avoid congestion. If you're not with your rig, we'll shoot you a message. Thanks for the heads up on the tickets, I'll spread the word.
Your filmer says the Wabash Bell defense plan is called Operation Scarlet Fist.
You guys make it too easy to make fun of you sometimes. Those jokes just write themselves.
Hey outta town Wabash folks, anyone with plans on arriving into Crawfordsville on Friday afternoon?
There's a Chicago contingent driving down Friday morning and wanted to see if there would be any partners in crime when we arrived in the early afternoon!
WAF!
November 9, 1985:
http://www.depauw.edu/news/?id=26105
November 9, 2008:
http://www.depauw.edu/news/?id=22444
Quote from: Wes Anderson on November 08, 2010, 09:47:56 PM
Your filmer says the Wabash Bell defense plan is called Operation Scarlet Fist.
You guys make it too easy to make fun of you sometimes. Those jokes just write themselves.
Nice. I guess it's better than a defensive plan called Operation Crossed Legs. What are the DPU plans called? Please tell me your offensive strategy involves a big passing game and is called Old Gold Shower.
Seeing that the Monon Bell Game is televised nationally, making it easier for people to stay home and not travel to the game, I was wondering where those who are going to the game are traveling from, and what number of Monon Bell games you have attended in person.
I am traveling from Denver, Colorado for my 14th consecutive.
Quote from: gobash on November 09, 2010, 12:29:21 PM
Quote from: Wes Anderson on November 08, 2010, 09:47:56 PM
Your filmer says the Wabash Bell defense plan is called Operation Scarlet Fist.
You guys make it too easy to make fun of you sometimes. Those jokes just write themselves.
Nice. I guess it's better than a defensive plan called Operation Crossed Legs. What are the DPU plans called? Please tell me your offensive strategy involves a big passing game and is called Old Gold Shower.
Sorry to disappoint, but the DPU men will not indulge the cavemen with golden showers. Fear not though, at C'Vile A&M "water sports" are year-round activities.
Quote from: Breckenridgebear on November 09, 2010, 12:32:25 PM
Seeing that the Monon Bell Game is televised nationally, making it easier for people to stay home and not travel to the game, I was wondering where those who are going to the game are traveling from, and what number of Monon Bell games you have attended in person.
I am traveling from Denver, Colorado for my 14th consecutive.
Chicago / Monon game number 13, non-consecutive.
Quote from: Breckenridgebear on November 09, 2010, 12:32:25 PM
Seeing that the Monon Bell Game is televised nationally, making it easier for people to stay home and not travel to the game, I was wondering where those who are going to the game are traveling from, and what number of Monon Bell games you have attended in person.
I am traveling from Denver, Colorado for my 14th consecutive.
Coming from just outside of Salem, Virginia. This'll be my 15th in a row.
Quote from: Breckenridgebear on November 09, 2010, 12:32:25 PM
Seeing that the Monon Bell Game is televised nationally, making it easier for people to stay home and not travel to the game, I was wondering where those who are going to the game are traveling from, and what number of Monon Bell games you have attended in person.
I am traveling from Denver, Colorado for my 14th consecutive.
I commend you for making the trip from Denver. This year will be my 31st consecutive Monon Bell game, most traveling from Indianapolis but three years from St. Louis.
Purely a guess, 10 across 25 years. Most recently, last 4 from Eastern PA.
Saturday will be my 16th Monon game in 17 years. Only missed 2008. Stupid one to miss, too.
Quote from: Ryan Tipps on November 09, 2010, 12:51:29 PM
Coming from just outside of Salem, Virginia. This'll be my 15th in a row.
15th in a row for me as well. It's like we were in the same class or something. :)
Quote from: Danny Boy on November 09, 2010, 12:45:41 PM
Quote from: gobash on November 09, 2010, 12:29:21 PM
Quote from: Wes Anderson on November 08, 2010, 09:47:56 PM
Your filmer says the Wabash Bell defense plan is called Operation Scarlet Fist.
You guys make it too easy to make fun of you sometimes. Those jokes just write themselves.
Nice. I guess it's better than a defensive plan called Operation Crossed Legs. What are the DPU plans called? Please tell me your offensive strategy involves a big passing game and is called Old Gold Shower.
Sorry to disappoint, but the DPU men will not indulge the cavemen with golden showers. Fear not though, at C'Vile A&M "water sports" are year-round activities.
Danny Boy, don't give dabash the credit of being an Agricultural and Mechanical school, we all know it is a technical community college.
Quote from: gobash83 on November 09, 2010, 12:54:54 PM
Quote from: Breckenridgebear on November 09, 2010, 12:32:25 PM
Seeing that the Monon Bell Game is televised nationally, making it easier for people to stay home and not travel to the game, I was wondering where those who are going to the game are traveling from, and what number of Monon Bell games you have attended in person.
I am traveling from Denver, Colorado for my 14th consecutive.
I commend you for making the trip from Denver. This year will be my 31st consecutive Monon Bell game, most traveling from Indianapolis but three years from St. Louis.
That is impressive gobash83.
This will be my 8th consecutive Monon. Coming from Tampa, FL since 2008.
Can't wait. It's way too hot down here in November.
2nd consecutive...coming from tempe, az.
gotta start the streak somewhere right?
I am also coming from Denver, CO. This will be my 5th trip for the game in the last 7 years.
Can't be there...too much travel going on. I get back from a trip Friday and leave on another Sunday. But I'll be at my computer screen for sure when I have a chance!
I'll be there, coming from New York. It'll be the first game at Hollett I've seen from the stands. Saw the 2001 game in person.
Travelling from St. Louis for the 2010 edition of the Bell Game. Have attended at least 25 games in person including a streak from 1974 to 1986 and have not missed a game since it has been broadcast via satellite, internet, or cable. Hosted game day parties in Denver in the 80's, Washington DC in the 90s, and Wisconsin and St. Louis in the 2000's.
Breckenridgebear - your posts are entertaining. I look forward to this board topic each year.
Quote from: Wabash Hokie on November 09, 2010, 09:05:31 PM
Travelling from St. Louis for the 2010 edition of the Bell Game. Have attended at least 25 games in person including a streak from 1974 to 1986 and have not missed a game since it has been broadcast via satellite, internet, or cable. Hosted game day parties in Denver in the 80's, Washington DC in the 90s, and Wisconsin and St. Louis in the 2000's.
Breckenridgebear - your posts are entertaining. I look forward to this board topic each year.
Thanks Wabash Hokie, I am glad someone is reading my work. The boards gives me a chance to vent without freaking out the office and my wife.
Have attended from Detroit, Grand Rapids, Boston, Chicago, and Indianapolis. My first Bell game was 1982 (I was 14 ;D) and I haven't missed since - playing in 4 ('86-'89). This makes my 29th straight...
What are your thoughts on the matchup this year? Keys to the game? Interesting scenario this year with DPU already in the playoffs... I expect a very tight game this year. I haven't confirmed this but heard the stadium is set for 14,000 this year.
Wabash Always Fights!
BB16
Quote from: BashBacker#16 on November 09, 2010, 09:51:02 PM
Have attended from Detroit, Grand Rapids, Boston, Chicago, and Indianapolis. My first Bell game was 1982 (I was 14 ;D) and I haven't missed since - playing in 4 ('86-'89). This makes my 29th straight...
What are your thoughts on the matchup this year? Keys to the game? Interesting scenario this year with DPU already in the playoffs... I expect a very tight game this year. I haven't confirmed this but heard the stadium is set for 14,000 this year.
Wabash Always Fights!
BB16
Unless someone weighs in with 35 straight from Singapore, I think you may have won the trophy! Most of your distances are not that impressive, but playing in 4, and never missing a game from 4 years before college to 21 years after graduation is awesome! :D
November 10:
2007 - http://www.depauw.edu/news/index.asp?id=20365
2001 - http://www.depauw.edu/news/index.asp?id=11760
1990 - http://www.depauw.edu/news/index.asp?id=13679
1984 - http://www.depauw.edu/news/index.asp?id=13709
1979 - http://www.depauw.edu/news/index.asp?id=13691
1973 - http://www.depauw.edu/news/index.asp?id=13686
1917 - http://www.depauw.edu/news/index.asp?id=21546
Also available on YouTube: http://www.youtube.com/user/KayO6145
Quote from: BashBacker#16 on November 09, 2010, 09:51:02 PM
Have attended from Detroit, Grand Rapids, Boston, Chicago, and Indianapolis. My first Bell game was 1982 (I was 14 ;D) and I haven't missed since - playing in 4 ('86-'89). This makes my 29th straight...
What are your thoughts on the matchup this year? Keys to the game? Interesting scenario this year with DPU already in the playoffs... I expect a very tight game this year. I haven't confirmed this but heard the stadium is set for 14,000 this year.
Wabash Always Fights!
BB16
Someone utilized the "team with secured playoff berth may not play as hard" nonsense in a conversation I had the other day. Ridiculous. Maybe that applies to the NFL, but I think everyone on this board (even Wallies) understands the importance of this game every year. DPU wants a 10-0 season for the first time ever. There, I said it. This would be our first 10-0 season. That's almost as embarrassing as having a degree from Wabash. Point is, the Tigers will be coming for blood.
My biggest concern is the weather. There is a good chance for storms and that would put a damper on our air attack. I like our line and the ground game can be efficient, but I'd feel a lot better under clear calm skies. Really thinking this one will be decided in the trenches.
Quote from: Danny Boy on November 10, 2010, 10:57:12 AM
Someone utilized the "team with secured playoff berth may not play as hard" nonsense in a conversation I had the other day. Ridiculous. Maybe that applies to the NFL, but I think everyone on this board (even Wallies) understands the importance of this game every year. DPU wants a 10-0 season for the first time ever. There, I said it. This would be our first 10-0 season. That's almost as embarrassing as having a degree from Wabash. Point is, the Tigers will be coming for blood.
My biggest concern is the weather. There is a good chance for storms and that would put a damper on our air attack. I like our line and the ground game can be efficient, but I'd feel a lot better under clear calm skies. Really thinking this one will be decided in the trenches.
The thing is that it isn't that the game isn't important or that the players aren't going to play hard. I think there is another level that players, seniors especially, tap into when it's their last game. Wabash may play another game, they may not. There is no guarantee for them. DePauw knows that they are playing next week. As much as you want to tell yourself that you'll play like it's your last game, it isn't your last game and you don't get to tap into that special reserve.
It may be complete nonsense, but I think there's something to it. I've seen DPU twice beat playoff-bound Wabash teams in the last three years and on neither occasion would you have favored DPU to win. Last year Wabash beat a playoff bound DPU team when Wabash did not have a place in the tournament. It's less about saving it for the playoffs and more about seniors knowing that this is it for them.
The complex element in breaking down this years match-up is that this 9-0 Depauw team, really hasn't played anyone (of high level) this year? (Centre was probably their toughest.) and Wabash really has only played one team in Witt.
With the lack of head-to-head common opponents, I will fall back to safe ground and say that anything can and probably will happen.
Has Depauw's defensive secondary improved that much from last year? One could say yes, but would also admit their improved statistics from this year are against diminished competition in year to year comparison.
Can Wabash's secondary recover from the beating it took last week from Zoeller and Co.? Will Depauw's undersized D-Line be able to penetrate?
Again, we will see on Saturday.
QuoteIt may be complete nonsense, but I think there's something to it. I've seen DPU twice beat playoff-bound Wabash teams in the last three years and on neither occasion would you have favored DPU to win. Last year Wabash beat a playoff bound DPU team when Wabash did not have a place in the tournament. It's less about saving it for the playoffs and more about seniors knowing that this is it for them.
I think there is something to it...but not a bunch. The Bell game is so special. If your motor is not in overdrive, both physically and emotionallly, something is wrong. As for the two DePauw wins in recent years, I would have picked the Tigers in 2008 (not by 36-14, though) and would have rated 2007 a push, maybe a DPU edge being at home...I'm just sayin'...
QuoteThe complex element in breaking down this years match-up is that this 9-0 Depauw team, really hasn't played anyone (of high level) this year? (Centre was probably their toughest.) and Wabash really has only played one team in Witt.
With the lack of head-to-head common opponents, I will fall back to safe ground and say that anything can and probably will happen.
Has Depauw's defensive secondary improved that much from last year? One could say yes, but would also admit their improved statistics from this year are against diminished competition in year to year comparison.
Can Wabash's secondary recover from the beating it took last week from Zoeller and Co.? Will Depauw's undersized D-Line be able to penetrate?
Valid points all around. I would add, the ability of DePauw's O-line to continue to play great football is a key for the Tigers...can't wait to watch it play out...
Quote from: Mr. Ypsi on November 09, 2010, 10:55:53 PM
Quote from: BashBacker#16 on November 09, 2010, 09:51:02 PM
Have attended from Detroit, Grand Rapids, Boston, Chicago, and Indianapolis. My first Bell game was 1982 (I was 14 ;D) and I haven't missed since - playing in 4 ('86-'89). This makes my 29th straight...
What are your thoughts on the matchup this year? Keys to the game? Interesting scenario this year with DPU already in the playoffs... I expect a very tight game this year. I haven't confirmed this but heard the stadium is set for 14,000 this year.
Wabash Always Fights!
BB16
Unless someone weighs in with 35 straight from Singapore, I think you may have won the trophy! Most of your distances are not that impressive, but playing in 4, and never missing a game from 4 years before college to 21 years after graduation is awesome! :D
Seriously. Makes my 16 straight look pretty sad.
So last night in talking to #3, I made the call that priorities at home were going to unfortunately keep me from the Bell this year, So then a few minutes later the lamps in my 60" HD TV went out. Watching the game on a 32" dinosaur with no surround sound is not an option.
After 30 minutes or searching the planet for a KDF Lamp assembly that could be here by Friday, I can again relax.
WAF!
After tonight, I'll be away from my computer until selection Sunday as I make the half-day drive back to Indiana for the Bell Game.
Before I go, two things need to be said:
1) Everyone play safe and travel safe on Saturday. The health of these students counts, and players from both teams should remain healthy enough to be able to compete to their fullest no matter whether the next hurdle is the NCAA postseason or final exams.
2) Wabash: Get out there and ruin the Dannies' perfect season -- and make sure the Bell stays at home in Crawfordsville where it belongs!
Wabash Always Fights!!
I think DePauw has to be able to run the football with at least some success. Have to keep the Hard Hats honest. That offense will get some even if they can't run the ball, but they're really hard to stop if they can make the defense respect Ellis & Karazsia.
That defense has been a little suspect to big plays, but they've also knocked more than a couple guys out of games with hard hits. That group has some of the hardest hitters I've seen since Greg Sylvester. It sure would be nice to tee off on Belton a couple times early on and get him thinking about the blitz.
As to the question about playoffs - I think that while the Monon Bell is enough motivation, it seems that if a team can put a wrench in a playoff year, or playoff seeding, then that's an extra boost.
"We get the Bell, and screw up their season!" can be a huge motivation. Even if 'screw up their season' is putting them on the road in the playoffs and not just keeping them out.
November 10 in Monon Bell History:
2006- http://www.depauw.edu/news/index.asp?id=18443
2000- http://www.depauw.edu/news/index.asp?id=13699
1995- http://www.depauw.edu/news/index.asp?id=15236
1989- http://www.depauw.edu/news/index.asp?id=13708
1978- http://www.depauw.edu/news/index.asp?id=18374
1972- http://www.depauw.edu/news/index.asp?id=18374
1967- http://www.depauw.edu/news/index.asp?id=13704
1916- http://www.depauw.edu/news/index.asp?id=21660
1901- http://www.depauw.edu/news/index.asp?id=21952
1893- http://www.depauw.edu/news/index.asp?id=22029
A reliable source reports that the first RV has arrived at Little Giants Stadium....
I just got the tailgate menu for V.O.L., as relayed by master chef:
630AM: Kegs and Eggs
930AM: Beer Can Chicken
11:00AM Tomahawk Steaks (2-4 28oz Tomahawks steaks, thin slice the meat, place on a roll, cover with provolone, peppers and onions.)
6:00PM Burgers, Brats, and Victory in Greencastle
I am leaving Denver tonight to travel to CrafordsVile by way of Chicago. It is going to be a long, difficult day at work.
11/11/00
http://www.depauw.edu/news/?id=13699
Quote from: Breckenridgebear on November 11, 2010, 10:56:38 AM
I just got the tailgate menu for V.O.L., as relayed by master chef:
630AM: Kegs and Eggs
930AM: Beer Can Chicken
11:00AM Tomahawk Steaks (2-4 28oz Tomahawks steaks, thin slice the meat, place on a roll, cover with provolone, peppers and onions.)
6:00PM Burgers, Brats, and Victory in Greencastle
I am leaving Denver tonight to travel to CrafordsVile by way of Chicago. It is going to be a long, difficult day at work.
Ol' Chefy has an impressive streak as well. I believe this is his 16th consecutive, and he didn't attend either school!
B'bear and Danny Boy, may need some help to secure enough parking spots this weekend for player parents to tailgate. Thinking we park the RVs back to back across parking spots to secure about 10 spaces for the regular "Back Row" tailgaters from DePauw's lot. Then we can move them in the morning as they start to arrive. I get there around 2 PM EST tomorrow. When will you guys get there.
Let me know.
Quote from: Fripp52 on November 11, 2010, 12:49:20 PM
B'bear and Danny Boy, may need some help to secure enough parking spots this weekend for player parents to tailgate. Thinking we park the RVs back to back across parking spots to secure about 10 spaces for the regular "Back Row" tailgaters from DePauw's lot. Then we can move them in the morning as they start to arrive. I get there around 2 PM EST tomorrow. When will you guys get there.
Let me know.
If I have my druthers, we will arrive no later than 4 pm. Ideally, I'd like to have Chicago in the rearview by 10 am Central, arrive in Lafayette no later than 2 Eastern, quick RV inspection, then straight to C-VILE. Mr. Bear seems to hibernate a couple nights prior to Monon (even though the bastard has no problem getting started at 6 am on game day), but if I can get him and Rhine McMurphy to cooperate then we will leave the Windy City and arrive behind enemy lines ASAP.
How's that work?
Wes, if you have trouble finding a parking space on Saturday, it's because your people here are going to eat up half of a parking lot by decuple parking their RVs. Don't blame us.
Each year I drag out my 1973 issue of Sports Illustrated featuring the Monon Bell game and give it a read.
For those of you interested, here are the links to the two articles that Sports Illustrated has published about the game, one from 1973 and the other from 1993 or 1994.
http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/vault/article/magazine/MAG1138786/1/index.htm
http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/vault/article/magazine/MAG1087757/index.htm
Quote from: Breckenridgebear on November 09, 2010, 12:32:25 PM
Seeing that the Monon Bell Game is televised nationally, making it easier for people to stay home and not travel to the game, I was wondering where those who are going to the game are traveling from, and what number of Monon Bell games you have attended in person.
I am traveling from Denver, Colorado for my 14th consecutive.
21 between 1968 and 1996, Bear. Not in cards for next few years, with five/six leg flight over two days from Botswana. Will be thinking of y'all while Okavango Delta, tiger(-fish) swallow my flies over the weekend. ;D
WAF!
Wes is always welcome. All black and gold are welcome. Come on over Wes.
Quote from: Fripp52 on November 11, 2010, 12:49:20 PM
B'bear and Danny Boy, may need some help to secure enough parking spots this weekend for player parents to tailgate. Thinking we park the RVs back to back across parking spots to secure about 10 spaces for the regular "Back Row" tailgaters from DePauw's lot. Then we can move them in the morning as they start to arrive. I get there around 2 PM EST tomorrow. When will you guys get there.
Let me know.
Fripp,
We will see what we can do when get down to Noladyland, A.K.A., Da'Vile. I know that it is usually a first come basis in Da'Vile, but I am sure we can set aside a few spots. Or you can live dangerously and park right in the middle of Da'caveboyzz lot, as we did a few years ago. It really makes the weekend that more intense.
Like Danny Boy said, we will try to get down as early as we can.
See you soon.
Judging by how tame the boards have been this year, it appears that the caveboyzz are not as confident in their team as in the past. It looks like dabash doesn't want to say something that will come back and nip them in the ass. As a friend emailed me, "I guess when you lose a couple of games and you are not going to the playoffs, it makes you want to dress in red and spoon instead of hammering out some indefensible bulls**t."
Quote from: Breckenridgebear on November 11, 2010, 03:48:07 PM
Judging by how tame the boards have been this year, it appears that the caveboyzz are not as confident in their team as in the past.
I'm sure that's it. No amount of board activity, or inactivity for that matter, will ever change a Wabash man's confidence in knowing that he is superior to you and your Dannie ilk in every way possible. We don't need 15 pages of Post Patterns activity to hammer this point home.
Quote from: wally_wabash on November 11, 2010, 03:56:36 PM
Quote from: Breckenridgebear on November 11, 2010, 03:48:07 PM
Judging by how tame the boards have been this year, it appears that the caveboyzz are not as confident in their team as in the past.
I'm sure that's it. No amount of board activity, or inactivity for that matter, will ever change a Wabash man's confidence in knowing that he is superior to you and your Dannie ilk in every way possible. We don't need 15 pages of Post Patterns activity to hammer this point home.
I wonder if similar propaganda was fed to Wallies at Philistine Field once upon a time.
Quote from: wally_wabash on November 11, 2010, 03:56:36 PM
Quote from: Breckenridgebear on November 11, 2010, 03:48:07 PM
Judging by how tame the boards have been this year, it appears that the caveboyzz are not as confident in their team as in the past.
I'm sure that's it. No amount of board activity, or inactivity for that matter, will ever change a Wabash man's confidence in knowing that he is superior to you and your Dannie ilk in every way possible. We don't need 15 pages of Post Patterns activity to hammer this point home.
Big word for Da'wally, "Ilk".
Off to catch my flight to the Middle. See some of you in the lot tomorrow night.
I'd say the reigning crown of "indefensible bull****" lies heavy upon YOUR head, bear. We certainly backed up our talk last year...
54-53-9
Another great Monon Bell Stag last night at the Murat in downtown Indianapolis. Both schools represented by their presidents and head football coaches. Oh, that's right, Robby Long took the time to be there. Once again, Wabash HC didn't bother.
Congrats to the organizers for a great show...nice to see this tradition gaining momentum.
...also congratulations to last night's honorees...two legends...DePauw's Coach Nick Mourouzis and Wabash's Pete Metzelaars.
Final thoughts from me as we're under 24 hours until kick:
If DePauw runs the ball with at least some success, doesn't turn it over, and is sound in the kicking game, I think they are about 10 points better. I think 28 is probably enough in that case. 21 may even be enough. If those 3 things happen, DePauw will hold the ball for close to 40 minutes with 15 & 16 play drives. More like the first half last year than the second half. That's what happened against Millsaps this year. That's not what happened against Trinity. If what happened against Trinity happens again, then it's different. I imagine Wabash will create at least one turnover at some point in the afternoon and may cause issues for DePauw's special teams. That'll make it closer, and probably put this game into the high 30's. I think if DePauw turns it over more than twice, they probably lose. DePauw turned it over 3 times last year and it allowed Wabash to hang 32 on them - the first time Wabash had scored more than 21 pts (edit: against DePauw) since 2003.
Also, I'm not too sure that the Wabash QBs throw for 400 and 4 TD's, but they'll probably get a couple. If they do go bonkers, DePauw is going to be in big trouble. You can afford to give a big play or two (they usually do), but let's not allow those WRs to run all over the lot. I'll take DePauw 35-27.
Wes:
I concur on the point total as I think both defenses are vulnerable. I simply hope that DePauw's offense does not get its passing game into high gear. Now that we have field turf, even a wet track may not slow down the game unlike in past years. Wabash's field never drained well and would be a mud bowl if it rained up to a few days before the game.
Here's to staying relatively dry and wind free and watching the teams slug it out.
Report from WXIN/Indy Fox affiliate:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5RvWrO0zv2U
QuoteNow that we have field turf, even a wet track may not slow down the game unlike in past years. Wabash's field never drained well and would be a mud bowl if it rained up to a few days before the game.
Rain didn't seem to slow things down much in 2008. ;)
The field in 2006 was ridiculous...don't know if it was good work by the crew there or what, but the field was in pretty good shape in '08 after a ton of rain...
My Keys to the Bell Game:
Wabash Keys to Victory -
1. The ability for Wabash's defense to disrupt Engle's rhythm int he pocket.
2. Offensive line giving Wabash QB time to throw down field.
3. Keeping penalties to a minimum
4. Scoring on any Depauw miscue.
5. Not the game for experiment - Go with one QB
6. Rushing enough to keep defense honest
7. 3rd down conversions
8. Wabash receivers cannot drop passes in this one. May not have that many opportunities.
Depauw's Key to Victory
1. Offensive line giving Engle & the receivers time.
2. Koors factor - If Wabash loads up on him defensively, other talented receivers will be open, they need to continue to step up as they have.
3. Depauw rushing game controlling clock
4. Depauw's defensive backfield protecting the big pass to Horn & co.
5. 3rd Down conversions
6. Special teams - (Punt team) getting the punts off.
That's about it. Time to prepare.
Going to be quite a scene tomorrow, hope the weather cooperates.
WAF!
QuoteFinal thoughts from me as we're under 24 hours until kick:
If DePauw runs the ball with at least some success, doesn't turn it over, and is sound in the kicking game, I think they are about 10 points better. I think 28 is probably enough in that case. 21 may even be enough. If those 3 things happen, DePauw will hold the ball for close to 40 minutes with 15 & 16 play drives. More like the first half last year than the second half. That's what happened against Millsaps this year. That's not what happened against Trinity. If what happened against Trinity happens again, then it's different. I imagine Wabash will create at least one turnover at some point in the afternoon and may cause issues for DePauw's special teams. That'll make it closer, and probably put this game into the high 30's. I think if DePauw turns it over more than twice, they probably lose. DePauw turned it over 3 times last year and it allowed Wabash to hang 32 on them - the first time Wabash had scored more than 21 pts (edit: against DePauw) since 2003.
Also, I'm not too sure that the Wabash QBs throw for 400 and 4 TD's, but they'll probably get a couple. If they do go bonkers, DePauw is going to be in big trouble. You can afford to give a big play or two (they usually do), but let's not allow those WRs to run all over the lot. I'll take DePauw 35-27.
Pretty good assesment and totally agree on turnovers, though they only accounted for 7 of Wabash's 32 last year. In addition to things you mention, that DePauw O-line is going to be very key tomake things happen. Also, FYI, Wabash scored 23 in 2006. :)
Sure, but you add in the missed FG after the fumbled snap & the tipped interception when DePauw was matriculating the ball down the field, and we're talking anywhere between 6 & 14 more for DePauw too. Nearly a 21 point swing based on just that.
To me, those two plays late in the second changed the whole tone. That game was on its way to being 2008 reloaded, but the bounces went against DePauw that year instead of in favor in '08.
EDIT: You're right about '06. Think I blocked the safety that Spud took late in that game from my memory.
QuoteSure, but you add in the missed FG after the fumbled snap & the tipped interception when DePauw was matriculating the ball down the field, and we're talking anywhere between 6 & 14 more for DePauw too. Nearly a 21 point swing based on just that.
To me, those two plays late in the second changed the whole tone. That game was on its way to being 2008 reloaded, but the bounces went against DePauw that year instead of in favor in '08.
Very true.
Looking forward to a high intensity game tomorrow...DPU, 24-14.
Wabash 28
DPU 24
Go Wabash!......
Ring the bell, fellers:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hdtysGVh47k
34-31, Wabash (of course)...
It's Chirstmas morning! I think I sleep less now the night before Monon than I ever did on Christmas Eve as a younger fella.
Happy Monon you stupid Cavemen. I hate you more than I ever hated anything in my entire life. I'd rather be dead than Wabash red.
And to you as well, Wes! Hope you're enjoying that slivered steak at Bear's Lair - though butchering a choice cut like that is culinary bastardization, much less layering it with cheese - but expected. ;)
117 meetings later, Wabash Always Fights and DePauw (or DeBauch per the 1970 Bachelor) Never Quits (Swallowing)
;D ;D - Save Bell Day to All, even the Danny Boys
Duck Fepauw! - It's On.
Fish wrap from today -
http://www.thepaper24-7.com/main.asp?SectionID=24&SubSectionID=23&ArticleID=28658
Quote from: wally_wabash on October 13, 2010, 04:30:48 PM
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Quote from: 02 Warhawk on October 13, 2010, 03:57:09 PM
dumb question from an outside fan: prior to last season, was Wabash and DePauw ever in the same conference? It seems odd that two long-time rival teams were from two different conferences all these years.
Excellent question. Wabash and DePauw were charter members of the Indiana Collegiate Athletic Conference back in 1987. The two were conference rivals for 12 years until DePauw left the ICAC for the SCAC in 1999 for reasons that only Bob Bottoms fully understand.
As I'm sure you've read, DePauw will be joining Wabash in the NCAC next year, with football affiliation coming the following year in 2012...which is a terrific move for all parties involved.
what about prior to 1987?
Does the Monon railroad connect the two schools?
I can't speak for DePauw, but prior to the ICAC, I don't believe Wabash was affiliated with a conference.
And yes, the Monon RR serviced both colleges back in the day.
One other thing that has serviced both colleges throughout the years are DePauw women. Ha!
GO WABASH!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UNX083Sy0vg
For those w/o HDNET or a viewing party:
Monon Bell 117 Live Stats (http://www.wabash.edu/sports/docs/footballstats/livestats/xlive.htm)
As I type this, total yards are 391 to 52.
Got a feeling the Bell will reside at Allen for a while!
Wabash 47
DPU 0
WOW
Koors with one catch for ten yard through three quarter. Great play by the Wabash DBs!!!!!
Quote from: Joe Wally on November 13, 2010, 03:37:56 PM
Koors with one catch for ten yard through three quarter. Great play by the Wabash DBs!!!!!
Let's keep the goose egg on the board!
I can safely say it's 55-53-9.
What a way to go out for the seniors, and Yoder in particular. Well done men!
If not for the kneel-downs at the end of the game Wabash would have put 500 total yards on DPU. Wow.
Wes & DPU - respect the heck out of you...... tough game for your Tigers, but you were wrong.
Breck - Your a total idiot.... swallow that on the flight back to Denver.
How bad was the Southern Athletic Conference this year?
This Wabash team deserves a pool C. Today proves that.
Dream Bell Game..... since the 50's we have not seen what we saw today.
more later... much more.
Quote from: Wes Anderson on November 13, 2010, 09:36:30 AM
Happy Monon you stupid Cavemen. I hate you more than I ever hated anything in my entire life. I'd rather be dead than Wabash red.
Safe drive home Wes. Not good to hate. ;)
Quote from: Breckenridgebear on November 11, 2010, 03:48:07 PM
It looks like dabash doesn't want to say something that will come back and nip them in the ass. As a friend emailed me, "I guess when you lose a couple of games and you are not going to the playoffs, it makes you want to dress in red and spoon instead of hammering out some indefensible bulls**t."
Breck - You have officially been confirmed and idiot. Officially.
Enjoy your peanuts on your flight. Don't forget to swallow. Wouldn't want you to choke...
Quote from: bashbrother on November 13, 2010, 04:22:19 PM
Quote from: Breckenridgebear on November 11, 2010, 03:48:07 PM
It looks like dabash doesn't want to say something that will come back and nip them in the ass. As a friend emailed me, "I guess when you lose a couple of games and you are not going to the playoffs, it makes you want to dress in red and spoon instead of hammering out some indefensible bulls**t."
Breck - You have officially been confirmed and idiot. Officially.
Enjoy your peanuts on your flight. Don't forget to swallow. Wouldn't want you to choke...
Way to say it BashBro! It was a totally satisfactory afternoon. Congratulations to the seniors-kudos to the defense--ALL of them! I trust that old Breckenridge was leading the march down the railroad tracks in the middle of the third quarter, as reported by Terry on the radio-- on his way back to sulk in his lair until he emerges in October to crack up his tasteless slander machine! for his benefit the boyzz prevail WAF
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My guess is we will not hear from Depauw faithful until March or later. Their change in seeding, caused by getting totally waxed today, will secure an early exit from the playoffs......
1 and out Dannies.... graduating almost your entire team........
See ya next year for some more fun! I am sure this Wabash team that returns a ton will remember what a blast today was!
Hey, Breck is signed in...lets see if he has the guts to post something... stay tuned....
Update -
Breckenridge, signed out and left or went into stalker mode. As I thought, he didn't have the guts to say a word. Bravo Breck...... again, watch the peanuts.
7 - Number of first downs for the powerful Tigers
95 - Number of Total Yards on offense today
11 - Number of yards rushing for the confident conference champions
2 - Number of 3rd downs converted out of 15 opportunities
12 - Number of passes complete on 33 attempts
0 - Number of times in the redzone for this unbeatable Tiger team
I won't even discuss defensive stats.
repost from NCAC board...
D is for dominate. And that is what you did in all three phases today...to put it mildly. After a tough season with some devastating injuries, your guys stepped up in THE game. They and you have much to be proud of. I have no doubt the Tigers will come back from this...but tonight it's very tough. That's why they play the game, baby. Enjoy the win...you deserve it Wallies.
Quote from: D3_DPUFan on November 13, 2010, 05:58:14 PM
repost from NCAC board...
D is for dominate. And that is what you did in all three phases today...to put it mildly. After a tough season with some devastating injuries, your guys stepped up in THE game. They and you have much to be proud of. I have no doubt the Tigers will come back from this...but tonight it's very tough. That's why they play the game, baby. Enjoy the win...you deserve it Wallies.
Thanks DPU fan, for a gracious concession. Wabash was just unreal- couldn't seem to anything wrong no matter how hard they tried. DePauw's vaunted ground game laid an egg-although it wouldn't have been so bad, without -47 yards from the long snapper. No blocked punts, but with that it wasn't really neccessary.
You'll come back, this rivalry always comes back, even after a humiliation like '98, the 2d half in '09 and today. Keep in there pitching-we need your perception and grace to balance the crap that other representatives dump out come next October, when BreckenridgeBoor starts to spew. I personally saw 7 Bell games in person, all losses,until I broke through in 2006.
My 33rd straight Monon Bell game is in the books. From the moment I walked onto the Wabash campus in 1978, I have never missed it.
In those 33 years, Wabash leads the series 17-14-2.
Interestingly, Wabash is now 7-2-0 in midterm election years. The last of those 2 losses ocurred in 1998, the year the Dannies cheated by spying on Wabash practices. If they had been honorable, perhaps Wabash would be 8-1-0.
Still, 7-2-0 is pretty good.
Where Wabash has problems is during presidential election years. 1-5-2 the past 33 years.
Food for thought. Or something.
Highlights:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hu6-7p7WGRE
So... we got our ass kicked today.
DePauw was not prepared for the Wabash blitz. DePauw was not prepared for mobile quarterbacks. DePauw wasn't really prepared for anything. We couldn't run it. We couldn't throw it. We had no success in any phase of the game. Horrible preparation, horrible gameplan, horrible execution.
I'm embarassed. That sucked out loud. Helluva job Wabash. You earned every second of that. Total domination of a good football team. Best effort of the year by a mile. LG'a proved it today for sure.
What an embarrassment. Hats off to Wabash's determination, preparation, and execution today.
Wabash, with some help, may have gotten into the playoffs with that win. We shall see.
I just hope they make it on the board for consideration. If they do, with some of the things that materialized today, they may have a chance. Coming into today, it was Wooster win and they were in. Witt win and they are out.
Beating a regionally ranked team 47-0 has to raise a few eyebrows.
Quote from: bashbrother on November 13, 2010, 10:15:21 PM
I just hope they make it on the board for consideration. If they do, with some of the things that materialized today, they may have a chance. Coming into today, it was Wooster win and they were in. Witt win and they are out.
Beating a regionally ranked team 47-0 has to raise a few eyebrows.
Dunno. DePauw mauled a regionally ranked Wabash team 2 years ago and got nada.
Hats off to the men who favor garish red garb. There's no debate about who the better team is/was on this day. I think DePauw's team bus is in a parallel universe still looking for the stadium -- they may never show up.
DePauw had 2 in-region losses that year. Might not make a bit of difference that Wabash only has one this year but theoretically it matters.
If that bus is still out there, you might want to remind the bus driver that the Tigers have a game next week. Can't stay out there looking for today's game forever.
Final thought!
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I'll admit that I enjoyed the game yesterday, but that's because I had to sit through the `98 game. Even so, I don't want `em all to go that way. As nice as it is to hang that on DPU, the games that are closer are just simply more exciting, even if we don't always win them.
And as much faith as I have in Wabash, if you'd asked me how that game was going to go before hand, I'd have come up with about every scenario than that one. If we ever needed more proof that you can throw everything else in a season out when trying to predict Bell games, let me direct you to Exhibit A.
I'd say good game, DPU, but that would smack of disingenuity. I will say the best part about this rivalry is that you get another shot at us next year, and I'm sure this one will still be smarting when they take the field in `11. It didn't apparently help us a lot in `99, but maybe that fire will make for a hell of a game next year.
Hell of a show, Bash. One helluva show.
You know, I think the longest memories are the losses. I'm sure that my contemporaries at Danny-land curse the 1985 and 1986 Bell Games as much as I can't forget to remember to forget 1987.
I'll say this, it'd sure be cool to see the bracket come out the way Pat projected. Both DePauw and Wabash play good teams - Wheaton & Ohio Northern, respectively, but they'd square off in round two.
Don't really know if I WANT another shot at the LGs or not, but that'd sure be cool, wouldn't it?
Quote from: 1837Tigers on November 13, 2010, 11:42:28 PMI think DePauw's team bus is in a parallel universe still looking for the stadium -- they may never show up.
+K :D
This is the best - and perhaps most likely - explanation of what occurred yesterday!
Well, I'm not upset about Wabash's snub - they shouldn't have lost to Wash U.
But, I would like an accounting of the bank accounts for all of DPUs major donors, especially large cash transactions in and out of the Cayman Islands. Somehow they greased the skids to get them to host a game while Witt travels to ONU.
DePauw's SOS is 39th compared to Wittenberg's 175.
http://web1.ncaa.org/mfb/2010/Internet/toughest%20schedule/3_9games_cumm.pdf
I'm no genius,but I'm guessing this played a huge part..not the bank accounts!!
Quote from: DPUBro on November 14, 2010, 08:22:59 PM
DePauw's SOS is 39th compared to Wittenberg's 175.
http://web1.ncaa.org/mfb/2010/Internet/toughest%20schedule/3_9games_cumm.pdf
I'm no genius,but I'm guessing this played a huge part..not the bank accounts!!
That's a very valid point, but before Wabash folks grab pitchforks, I'll say the same thing I said on the NCAC board. If that's the criteria you use to argue for DePauw to be a 3, then Wabash has to be in this tournament over Montclair. You can't reward DePauw for that and then turn around and not do the same for the Pool C candidates.
DePauw has to be a 5/6 and Wabash is out or DePauw is the 3 and Wabash is in. That's the choice to me. I still think DePauw as the 3 is high either way, but if you are to give them that kind of "credit" for getting whipped yesterday, then Wabash deserves that same credit for a win of that magnitude.
No pitchforks here, I for one am happy for Depauw in getting the beneficial draw. It will be a nice thing for the program to host a playoff game.
Some of the selection committee's moves were bizarre. There seems to be a few head-scratchers every year out of that group.
Depauw needs to shake off the Bell and figure out a way to rebound. Breaking down Saturday's game on what happened would probably be a good place to start. Trine will be breaking it down as well I am sure.
Wabash lost 2 football games and that put us on the bubble. Anything can happen on the bubble.
Quote from: DPUBro on November 14, 2010, 08:22:59 PM
DePauw's SOS is 39th compared to Wittenberg's 175.
http://web1.ncaa.org/mfb/2010/Internet/toughest%20schedule/3_9games_cumm.pdf
I'm no genius,but I'm guessing this played a huge part..not the bank accounts!!
Yeah, but 10-0 vs. 9-1 in region. That's supposedly higher up than SOS.
But you gotta win anywhere to win the title. And it seems like DPU can't handle a 27 mile jaunt up 231 to face a good team.
When asked what the Sphinx Club was going to do with the funds remaining in their Monon Bell account, the decision was made to buy "rape whistles" for the DePauw football team. :)
Quote from: smedindy on November 14, 2010, 11:48:40 AM
You know, I think the longest memories are the losses. I'm sure that my contemporaries at Danny-land curse the 1985 and 1986 Bell Games as much as I can't forget to remember to forget 1987.
Agreed. I don't think I'll be able to forget this sh*tshow, and that thought really started to dig in early in the 3rd quarter. For me, the most horrendous stat is 95 yards of offense. Yeah, the numbers that really stand out this Monday morning are 47, 0, and 95. Say what you want about Wabash dropping 500 yards on DPU, I was more disappointed in the offense. While I did worry about the effects of rain on our offense, I didn't think the end result would be this horrible. Apparently we are water-soluble.
Making the playoffs (PLAYOFFS?!) is great but I'd much rather have a Bell. Maybe I'm in the minority with that view, but a season with a loss to Wabash is a failed season in my book. Conversely, 0-9 season can be redeemed with a Bell victory. I'd like to be optimistic and look forward to DePauw at home vs Trine, but it just doesn't feel right. And after speaking to a few DPU parents on Saturday, I'm concerned that we won't touch that Bell until 2013. Walker seemed to be a better recruiter than Long, and at this point I want Coach Nick back.
I HATE to say it, but congrats Wallies. There is no way around that beating. Based on EVERYTHING about that game, you deserve the Bell. I feel like a Wabash freshman after bid night; violated, in need of a shower, and too humiliated to call the police. I can only hope that history holds true and next year this will again be anyone's game. See you @$$clowns next year.
QuoteAgreed. I don't think I'll be able to forget this sh*tshow, and that thought really started to dig in early in the 3rd quarter. For me, the most horrendous stat is 95 yards of offense. Yeah, the numbers that really stand out this Monday morning are 47, 0, and 95. Say what you want about Wabash dropping 500 yards on DPU, I was more disappointed in the offense. While I did worry about the effects of rain on our offense, I didn't think the end result would be this horrible. Apparently we are water-soluble.
Making the playoffs (PLAYOFFS?!) is great but I'd much rather have a Bell. Maybe I'm in the minority with that view, but a season with a loss to Wabash is a failed season in my book. Conversely, 0-9 season can be redeemed with a Bell victory. I'd like to be optimistic and look forward to DePauw at home vs Trine, but it just doesn't feel right. And after speaking to a few DPU parents on Saturday, I'm concerned that we won't touch that Bell until 2013. Walker seemed to be a better recruiter than Long, and at this point I want Coach Nick back.
I HATE to say it, but congrats Wallies. There is no way around that beating. Based on EVERYTHING about that game, you deserve the Bell. I feel like a Wabash freshman after bid night; violated, in need of a shower, and too humiliated to call the police. I can only hope that history holds true and next year this will again be anyone's game. See you @$$clowns next year.
I agree with your comments regarding the Bell...
Rain didn't have anything to do with this beat down.
After a long weekend, finally some thoughts on the 117th Monon Bell Classic.
So basically Wabash showed up and thrashed a 9-0 league champion. And "thrashed" doesn't quite do this game justice. Wabash won this game in every single way possible. This was the product of a tremendous game plan by the coaching staff and tremendous execution by every single one of those players wearing Wabash red on Saturday. Engle was never ever allowed to be comfortable in the pocket and as a result had zero success throwing the ball. Wabash used an awful lot of the read option in this game...more than they have all season really and why not? DePauw's defense looked completely and totally confused by it and never came close to stopping it. And then once Wabash was running all over the field, Wabash WRs started running free down the middle of the field and before you know it, we've got an good ol' fashioned whoopin' going on. I just can't say how proud I am of everybody involved with the Wabash program that turned this around seven days after the Wittenberg game and not only got ready to play and be competitive, but to be dominant. It was simply an awesome display of college football.
Congratulations to the entire Wabash team and coaching staff on this historic victory. 47-0 happens because of hard work and desire...and this week, these men worked harder and wanted this game more than their opponent.
Quote from: D3_DPUFan on November 12, 2010, 09:00:24 AM
Another great Monon Bell Stag last night at the Murat in downtown Indianapolis. Both schools represented by their presidents and head football coaches. Oh, that's right, Robby Long took the time to be there. Once again, Wabash HC didn't bother.
Coach Raeburn couldn't make the Monon Stag this year becuase he was busy putting the finishing touches on the deluxe woodshed that he built to drag your Tigers behind and beat like a bongo drum in a circle of hippies. ;)
BTW...this is the fourth consecutive year that the team with a guaranteed game after week 11 has lost in this rivialry. The last three of those games haven't been close. Anybody ready to bite on my seniors-in-their-last-game-have-something-extra theory?
Quote from: Breckenridgebear on November 11, 2010, 10:56:38 AM
I just got the tailgate menu for V.O.L., as relayed by master chef:
630AM: Kegs and Eggs
930AM: Beer Can Chicken
11:00AM Tomahawk Steaks (2-4 28oz Tomahawks steaks, thin slice the meat, place on a roll, cover with provolone, peppers and onions.)
6:00PM Burgers, Brats, and Victory in Greencastle
At least he got burgers and brats.
Quote from: D3_DPUFan on November 15, 2010, 12:25:14 PM
QuoteAgreed. I don't think I'll be able to forget this sh*tshow, and that thought really started to dig in early in the 3rd quarter. For me, the most horrendous stat is 95 yards of offense. Yeah, the numbers that really stand out this Monday morning are 47, 0, and 95. Say what you want about Wabash dropping 500 yards on DPU, I was more disappointed in the offense. While I did worry about the effects of rain on our offense, I didn't think the end result would be this horrible. Apparently we are water-soluble.
Making the playoffs (PLAYOFFS?!) is great but I'd much rather have a Bell. Maybe I'm in the minority with that view, but a season with a loss to Wabash is a failed season in my book. Conversely, 0-9 season can be redeemed with a Bell victory. I'd like to be optimistic and look forward to DePauw at home vs Trine, but it just doesn't feel right. And after speaking to a few DPU parents on Saturday, I'm concerned that we won't touch that Bell until 2013. Walker seemed to be a better recruiter than Long, and at this point I want Coach Nick back.
I agree with your comments regarding the Bell...
Rain didn't have anything to do with this beat down.
D3_DPUFan - I agree wholeheartedly regarding "the game" vs the playoffs. I don't think that Raeburn got it two years ago and DPU kicked the crap out of us. However, I don't think the players will ever get it. Unlike the alumni base, they don't have an appreciation for how they will feel 5, 10, 15 years down the road. The playoffs are a big deal to the players and I understand that - they live in the now. In my humble opinion, if we can't beat DePauw, then we should not go to the playoffs. If winning the Monon Bell game is a must for post season play, then the focus on that game will only be greater. I hope this becomes moot in two years when DPU joins the NCAC and we can knock heads at the end of the season for all of the marbles.
Quote from: wally_wabash on November 15, 2010, 01:09:31 PM
BTW...this is the fourth consecutive year that the team with a guaranteed game after week 11 has lost in this rivialry. The last three of those games haven't been close. Anybody ready to bite on my seniors-in-their-last-game-have-something-extra theory?
Um, DPU has 30 senior players graduating this year. While I would normally agree with that theory, I'll say that our squad didn't bring anything extra.
DPUFan - True, that loss was less about weather and more about being dominated. And maybe voodoo. Just saying Engle is not the same player in Saturday's conditions. After watching that embarassment, I'm convinced we would have lost regardless of the skies. But maybe we could have put SOMETHING on the scoreboard. Maybe not.
Quote from: Danny Boy on November 15, 2010, 01:45:45 PM
Quote from: wally_wabash on November 15, 2010, 01:09:31 PM
BTW...this is the fourth consecutive year that the team with a guaranteed game after week 11 has lost in this rivialry. The last three of those games haven't been close. Anybody ready to bite on my seniors-in-their-last-game-have-something-extra theory?
Um, DPU has 30 senior players graduating this year. While I would normally agree with that theory, I'll say that our squad didn't bring anything extra.
DPUFan - True, that loss was less about weather and more about being dominated. And maybe voodoo. Just saying Engle is not the same player in Saturday's conditions. After watching that embarassment, I'm convinced we would have lost regardless of the skies. But maybe we could have put SOMETHING on the scoreboard. Maybe not.
Exactly Wally's point - DPU seniors knew this
wasn't their last game. ;)
Quote from: Danny Boy on November 15, 2010, 01:45:45 PM
Quote from: wally_wabash on November 15, 2010, 01:09:31 PM
BTW...this is the fourth consecutive year that the team with a guaranteed game after week 11 has lost in this rivialry. The last three of those games haven't been close. Anybody ready to bite on my seniors-in-their-last-game-have-something-extra theory?
Um, DPU has 30 senior players graduating this year. While I would normally agree with that theory, I'll say that our squad didn't bring anything extra.
No, no. This is exactly my point. All 30 of those seniors got off the bus on Saturday knowing that this was not the last they would play college football. All of Wabash's seniors, and there are a lot of them on that defense that completed owned that Tiger offense, had to play Saturday like they were never getting another down. I'm convinced that there is an extra gear that these players find when the clock is about to strike midnight on their football careers. I've seen too many players in this game find another level that didn't exist before that day to not believe this.
Quote from: Wabash Hokie on November 15, 2010, 01:42:47 PM
D3_DPUFan - I agree wholeheartedly regarding "the game" vs the playoffs. I don't think that Raeburn got it two years ago and DPU kicked the crap out of us. However, I don't think the players will ever get it. Unlike the alumni base, they don't have an appreciation for how they will feel 5, 10, 15 years down the road. The playoffs are a big deal to the players and I understand that - they live in the now. In my humble opinion, if we can't beat DePauw, then we should not go to the playoffs. If winning the Monon Bell game is a must for post season play, then the focus on that game will only be greater. I hope this becomes moot in two years when DPU joins the NCAC and we can knock heads at the end of the season for all of the marbles.
As it stands right now, the Monon Bell game and the playoffs are not really related. Wabash and DePauw have seperate league championships and automatic qualifying opportunities regardless of the outcome of the Monon Bell game. It's wrong to want to strip those players of the opportunity to compete for a national championship because of the Bell game, particularly if they earned the right to compete in that tournament by winning their league. A league championship is a special thing that is HARD to get. Even in the down SCAC...even in the NCAC where there are some struggling programs. Conference championships ought to be rewarded with placement in the tournament.
Beginning in 2012, these scenarios of having already clinched a spot in the tournament will be a rarer occurance than it has been this past decade. I think we are more likely to start seeing the Bell game determine the NCAC qualifier. One or both of these teams ought to be playing for league championship nearly every year in the NCAC.
Quote from: wally_wabash on November 15, 2010, 01:58:00 PM
Quote from: Danny Boy on November 15, 2010, 01:45:45 PM
Quote from: wally_wabash on November 15, 2010, 01:09:31 PM
BTW...this is the fourth consecutive year that the team with a guaranteed game after week 11 has lost in this rivialry. The last three of those games haven't been close. Anybody ready to bite on my seniors-in-their-last-game-have-something-extra theory?
Um, DPU has 30 senior players graduating this year. While I would normally agree with that theory, I'll say that our squad didn't bring anything extra.
No, no. This is exactly my point. All 30 of those seniors got off the bus on Saturday knowing that this was not the last they would play college football. All of Wabash's seniors, and there are a lot of them on that defense that completed owned that Tiger offense, had to play Saturday like they were never getting another down. I'm convinced that there is an extra gear that these players find when the clock is about to strike midnight on their football careers. I've seen too many players in this game find another level that didn't exist before that day to not believe this.
Ah, yes. I misunderstood initially. Yes, I agree. The recent trend shows that the playoff-bound team leaves something in the locker room. While I can't say for certain that the Tigers were looking too far ahead and wouldn't treat this as a last game, I will say that I saw no spark from the guys in white. It's tough to say and I was not on the bus or in the locker room, but we LOOKED gutless. Distracted, preoccupied, 1 more game, whatever the excuse DPU appeared to lack hunger.
QuoteD3_DPUFan - I agree wholeheartedly regarding "the game" vs the playoffs. I don't think that Raeburn got it two years ago and DPU kicked the crap out of us. However, I don't think the players will ever get it. Unlike the alumni base, they don't have an appreciation for how they will feel 5, 10, 15 years down the road.
Yes...I agree that is probably true.
QuoteDPUFan - True, that loss was less about weather and more about being dominated. And maybe voodoo. Just saying Engle is not the same player in Saturday's conditions. After watching that embarassment, I'm convinced we would have lost regardless of the skies. But maybe we could have put SOMETHING on the scoreboard. Maybe not.
Understood. But Saturday's conditions were not that bad...they we even playing on turf. Hell Wabash's two-headed QB system threw for more than 200 yards and 4 TD's! It was much less about the weather and much more about handling pressure. Or, more to the point,
not handling pressure.
QuoteBTW...this is the fourth consecutive year that the team with a guaranteed game after week 11 has lost in this rivialry. The last three of those games haven't been close. Anybody ready to bite on my seniors-in-their-last-game-have-something-extra theory?
I agree there is something to it...you described in another post Wabash guys getting off the bus knowing it's their last game...I get that and understand it and do think in that scenario, guys get it into a higher gear. But I just don't think that explains everything if that makes sense. BTW I would also not by any stretch lump the 2009 game with blow outs in 2008 & 2010... ;)
Quote from: D3_DPUFan on November 15, 2010, 03:29:18 PM
BTW I would also not by any stretch lump the 2009 game with blow outs in 2008 & 2010... ;)
2009 was not as lopsided as 2008 or 2010, but Wabash led 32-13 with 5 minutes to play...the game was certainly on ice at that point.
Quote2009 was not as lopsided as 2008 or 2010, but Wabash led 32-13 with 5 minutes to play...the game was certainly on ice at that point.
FYI...about five minutes before that DePauw was inside your 10 yard line, coming up an inch short on 4th down on a drive that would have made it less than a touchdown game...then Wabash made the gutsy 4th and inches call deep in DPU territory to essentially seal it. Wabash made the plays needed to win that game...you know it's a good day when you give up more than 450 yards of offense and still win by 13.
While Saturday was a dream result for the Little Giants, there were many factors that helped produce the result. One of which was not weather.
1. Wabash losing the week prior to Witt - Wabash knew they played bad at Witt and wanted to make up for it.
2. Playoff factor - Last game on competitive football for 23 Wabash seniors.
3. Home field. Even with the weather, the Hollett could not have looked sweeter on the broadcast. (Not a bad recruiting display on Saturday.)
4. Possible over confidence that comes with a 9-0 record.
5. Simply wanting it more.
If there is sense in the NCAC scheduling after DePauw joins then the last weekend, with Wooster / Witt and Wabash / DPU, should always have the double air of playoffs / conference championship. Of course, during those games it could turn out that Allegheny could win the crown based on the results.
Can you imagine a Bell game where one team can knock two arch-rivals out of a title (thanks to tiebreakers) and hand it to one that is playing at Hiram? Can you imagine one where the fans are just as glued to the Wittenberg score as the Bell game they are watching? Good times...good times....
Quote from: smedindy on November 15, 2010, 04:33:20 PM
Can you imagine one where the fans are just as glued to the Wittenberg score as the Bell game they are watching? Good times...good times....
This is actually the way it worked out this year, I was trying to watch the 2nd half of the Bell on HDNet with a ton of texts coming from Crawfordsville asking for play by play from the Witt game.
Quote from: smedindy on November 15, 2010, 04:33:20 PM
If there is sense in the NCAC scheduling after DePauw joins then the last weekend, with Wooster / Witt and Wabash / DPU, should always have the double air of playoffs / conference championship. Of course, during those games it could turn out that Allegheny could win the crown based on the results.
Can you imagine a Bell game where one team can knock two arch-rivals out of a title (thanks to tiebreakers) and hand it to one that is playing at Hiram? Can you imagine one where the fans are just as glued to the Wittenberg score as the Bell game they are watching? Good times...good times....
Oh, I'm positively giddy about week 11 in the NCAC starting in 2012. Just once has the Bell game had real playoff implications in the era of the expanded brackets (that was 2009...maybe for DPU in 2005 had they won...the 2008 and 2010 winners had longshot playoff hopes, but nothing certain even with the win). Starting in 2012, we will start seeing Bell games that absolutely are elimination games
for both teams. Even over the last 10 years without direct playoff implications, we've seen some great games between some of the best teams these programs have ever produced. Inject some conference championship and playoff sizzle back into the rivalry, and the Monon Bell experience just gets amplified that much more. It's going to be awesome.
Side Note -
The Monon Bell thread is about to reach 15 pages, which was Breck's minimum number of post pages to gauge Wabash fans excitement of the game. ;)
Yep, we're now officially excited about the game.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DBxzfaIRJqs
Watching my recording of the Monon Monkeystomp...it might even be better the second time around. They can't put this game on a bluray disc fast enough.
I see that I am missed. Sorry for not being around after the game, I know that a lot of dabash 3rd world Nation has abandonment issues. After that travesty on Saturday, you will be happy to know that I decided to take a few days of vacation to reflect on what occurred. I am currently in California getting a few days of beach and pool time to reflect. Don't worry, I will be back in the "real" world on Wednesday to provide my thoughts.
Bear is enjoying his stash of Zima from his underground bunker...
He stockpiled three decades of the stuff.
Saturday's game was a little revenge for 1998. (I am only sorry that Wabash didn't hang 70- or 80 points on them in 2002 as well.) Unfortunately in 98, Wabash got booted from the playoffs, and in 2010, and DePauw got a 3 seed - go figure. I think the system with AQ's is a whole lot better and I suspect that DPU fans wouldn't disagree. However, as the Colts found out the hard way, when you take you foot off the pedal at the end of the season and lose momentum, it is a hard thing to find again. While the Committee may have rewarded the Tigers for getting monkey stomped, old Mo is not as foregiving as DPU will likely find out on Saturday.
Great lines from the HDNet Boradcast on Saturday.
Paul Mcguire "Depauw just needs to focus on the good things that happened in today's game because they have a game next week" He then concluded the thought "Well, I guess they have one or two things" ;)
Going to commercial at 33-0, "Blowout in Crawfordsville"
Quote from: firstdown on November 16, 2010, 12:47:30 PM
Saturday's game was a little revenge for 1998. (I am only sorry that Wabash didn't hang 70- or 80 points on them in 2002 as well.) Unfortunately in 98, Wabash got booted from the playoffs, and in 2010, and DePauw got a 3 seed - go figure. I think the system with AQ's is a whole lot better and I suspect that DPU fans wouldn't disagree. However, as the Colts found out the hard way, when you take you foot off the pedal at the end of the season and lose momentum, it is a hard thing to find again. While the Committee may have rewarded the Tigers for getting monkey stomped, old Mo is not as foregiving as DPU will likely find out on Saturday.
It's interesting to think about where on the board the committee had DPU BEFORE Saturday if they wound up as a #3 seed. Makes you wonder how much of the bracket they had done before game results came in on Saturday.
It's probably not fair to compare what happened on Saturday to what the Colts have done at the end of their seasons in the past. I don't think DPU mailed this game in on Saturday so that they'd be rested for the tournament. The Tiger starters were in the game until the extra bitter end (I was doing some head scratching there...I'm not sure why you are using your starting QB and A-A WR in the fourth quarter of a game that you can not win...I know Koors is chasing a record, but come on). No, this wasn't a throwaway game for DePauw by any stretch. They expected to win.
Quote from: bashbrother on November 16, 2010, 01:13:01 PM
Great lines from the HDNet Boradcast on Saturday.
Paul Mcguire "Depauw just needs to focus on the good things that happened in today's game because they have a game next week" He then concluded the thought "Well, I guess they have one or two things" ;)
Going to commercial at 33-0, "Blowout in Crawfordsville"
I also liked where Maguire suggested that DPU not bother watching the game film. I wonder if they did.
Quote from: wally_wabash on November 16, 2010, 01:24:47 PM
Quote from: firstdown on November 16, 2010, 12:47:30 PM
Saturday's game was a little revenge for 1998. (I am only sorry that Wabash didn't hang 70- or 80 points on them in 2002 as well.) Unfortunately in 98, Wabash got booted from the playoffs, and in 2010, and DePauw got a 3 seed - go figure. I think the system with AQ's is a whole lot better and I suspect that DPU fans wouldn't disagree. However, as the Colts found out the hard way, when you take you foot off the pedal at the end of the season and lose momentum, it is a hard thing to find again. While the Committee may have rewarded the Tigers for getting monkey stomped, old Mo is not as foregiving as DPU will likely find out on Saturday.
It's interesting to think about where on the board the committee had DPU BEFORE Saturday if they wound up as a #3 seed. Makes you wonder how much of the bracket they had done before game results came in on Saturday.
It's probably not fair to compare what happened on Saturday to what the Colts have done at the end of their seasons in the past. I don't think DPU mailed this game in on Saturday so that they'd be rested for the tournament. The Tiger starters were in the game until the extra bitter end (I was doing some head scratching there...I'm not sure why you are using your starting QB and A-A WR in the fourth quarter of a game that you can not win...I know Koors is chasing a record, but come on). No, this wasn't a throwaway game for DePauw by any stretch. They expected to win.
I was wondering about that myself. Having Engle and Koors in seemed like a bad idea because either of those guys get hurt late in a blowout and now you've guaranteed a loss next week.
The reason Wabash won so convincingly on Saturday. (Only people who grew up in C. Indiana might get this)
Sammy Terry said it would happen
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Bwah-hah-hah!!!
For DPU, this game film was burnt on the bus and thrown out of the window between Fincastle and Parkersburg.
Classic...
QuoteThe reason Wabash won so convincingly on Saturday. (Only people who grew up in C. Indiana might get this)
Sammy Terry said it would happen
Earthquake (http://earthquake.usgs.gov/earthquakes/recenteqsus/Quakes/usc0000x03.php#details) in Indiana, 25 miles from Wabash...
are the gods angry?
Wabash College and Wabash, IN are similar to Austin College and Austin, TX - not in the same locale ;) There might be a crack or two in some farmer's plowed-under beanfield, though. ;D
Quote from: cave2bens on December 30, 2010, 12:10:06 PM
Wabash College and Wabash, IN are similar to Austin College and Austin, TX - not in the same locale ;) There might be a crack or two in some farmer's plowed-under beanfield, though. ;D
My bad!
Shucks, Crawfordsville is not even located on the Wabash River!